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Title: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: NewYork Pope on April 30, 2010, 04:05:16 PM
Wow at this lame. all that tweeting and interviews of claiming how much Dre was involved, but now this?
http://www.sohh.com/2010/04/game_says_dr_dres_role_on_red_album_stil.html

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When we talk, it's just life check up. It was never about music. Until the day came where he'd ask if I wanna work, or 'Let's get into the studio', it wasn't for me to bring up," Game said. It was reported by MTV that Dre would executive produce Game's upcoming LP alongside Pharrell, but when we spoke with the rapper last week, he said Pharrell has the title all on his own. Still waiting for confirmation on this. Dr. Dre, however, is confirmed for a guest spot on the album, but it's still unknown how many, or if, he'll have any production credits.
 ::)

Game is amazing.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on April 30, 2010, 04:11:07 PM
Not even surprised one bit. Everyone was running around like this new project would be officially going through Aftermath when there was never confirmation of it. How soon we forget the whole "Doctor's Advocate" deal.
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Post by: SAINTX111 on April 30, 2010, 04:15:13 PM
Its all boasting and hype to promote record sales and get people talking. Skip the sideshow bullshit and wait till the album comes out and REALLY see. This guy and everyone talk in circles.
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Post by: Lunatic on April 30, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
LMAO wow. From "it's aftermath again" to "dre exec producing my album" to "his role on my album is unclear, he's NOT an exec producer" to "i dont even know if he will produce a song on my album"

I love Game but WOW  ::)
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Post by: TDOT on April 30, 2010, 04:21:33 PM
Completely agree wiith the guy above me. What a fuckin joke Game is making himself out to be with all this Dre/Aftermath shit. I have a feeling that Snoop/Game/Dre track will be the only Dre/Aftermath presence on this whole thing. Still doubt he's back on Aftermath too, as has been confirmed by a few sources (including him).

I have now officially COMPLETELY lost ALL hope at all in this album. I'll check for it when it drops, but fuck it, i'm not expecting anything anymore.

Cube & Em it is!
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Post by: friscoliving on April 30, 2010, 04:37:28 PM
they comfirmed that dre will have a part in the album as in talking/rapping. He'll be a feature and probably a beat or two. Just them saying i dont know so people will talk about it
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Post by: Matty on April 30, 2010, 04:38:02 PM
i think it was obvious when it went from a supposed dre produced single to 2 x pharrell singles, that the docs involvement in the final product would be minimal. the vaults strike again.

and game won't know what's on the album until jimmy and co finalise the tracklist.
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Post by: Fatdodger on April 30, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
LMAO wow. From "it's aftermath again" to "dre exec producing my album" to "his role on my album is unclear, he's NOT an exec producer" to "i dont even know if he will produce a song on my album"

I love Game but WOW  ::)
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Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on April 30, 2010, 05:26:20 PM
i think it was obvious when it went from a supposed dre produced single to 2 x pharrell singles, that the docs involvement in the final product would be minimal. the vaults strike again.

and game won't know what's on the album until jimmy and co finalise the tracklist.

that's a damn shame imo. wish artists could release what THEY want, it is an art form after all. shame money plays too much of an impact
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 30, 2010, 05:27:03 PM
This is interesting!  :o :o

Maybe someshit happened behind the scenes between dre and game or interscope which we may not know about? Because you dont go from rocking the aftermath chain again to suddenly having no dre on your album. And the sudden change from it being a dre produced single coming out to it being a dre ft jayz underpressure joint instead for detox and we all know jigaa and game aint meshin' so y'all cant count it out...especially with how thse niggaz act over at aftermath and then theres ofcourse the chance someshit might have happened. Or its even possible 50 might have had a hand in this, who knows.

But then this is how rumours start and we won't never know the full story but we'll know some of it when RED drops!

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Post by: the vine on April 30, 2010, 06:26:16 PM
This is interesting!  :o :o

Maybe someshit happened behind the scenes between dre and game or interscope which we may not know about? Because you dont go from rocking the aftermath chain again to suddenly having no dre on your album. And the sudden change from it being a dre produced single coming out to it being a dre ft jayz underpressure joint instead for detox and we all know jigaa and game aint meshin' so y'all cant count it out...especially with how thse niggaz act over at aftermath and then theres ofcourse the chance someshit might have happened. Or its even possible 50 might have had a hand in this, who knows.

But then this is how rumours start and we won't never know the full story but we'll know some of it when RED drops!




Yeah you know what happened? Dre heard some of Pharrell's wack ass beats..

"Damn Game, it's good to be workin with you again you feel me? Me and you make a good team bruh, aiite lets get down to business at 7 P.M. I gotta leave the spot and go to the studio and pretend like I'm working on Detox.."

*Puts on Pharrell beat*

"............the fukk is this sh!T?!?!?, im out!"
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 30, 2010, 10:53:35 PM
I saw this coming a mile away. As soon as that pic of him with Dre and Snoop leaked everything was Aftermath. But when the music started leaking it was all Pharrell shit. I think Dre will probably produce maybe 1-2 tracks but I don't see Dre being the co-executive producer or this being an Aftermath album.

Game is lame for that shit.
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Post by: Muhfukka on April 30, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
hahahaha
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Action! on April 30, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
you know dre can't tarnish his legacy any more than he has already

if game aint' bringing the hype just like if 50 ain't bringing the hype or the cash dre wont' fuck with it.

it's just reality of how he works.

why y'all acting surprsied?
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Post by: Do Dirty on April 30, 2010, 11:13:45 PM
Game are ppl hating on Game for this? Some ppl just look for a reason to hate. Dudes act like Game has any say in the matter and we all know Dre's track record as of the past few years so this should be of no surprise.
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on April 30, 2010, 11:51:37 PM
it's game what did you expect? i had a feeling it would come to this
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 01, 2010, 12:36:52 AM
you know dre can't tarnish his legacy any more than he has already

if game aint' bringing the hype just like if 50 ain't bringing the hype or the cash dre wont' fuck with it.

it's just reality of how he works.

why y'all acting surprsied?


Dr. Dre has already been tarnished his legacy a long time ago
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Dre-Day on May 01, 2010, 01:00:04 AM
alright, so the only interesting thing about RED is gone

This is interesting!  :o :o

Maybe someshit happened behind the scenes between dre and game or interscope which we may not know about? Because you dont go from rocking the aftermath chain again to suddenly having no dre on your album. And the sudden change from it being a dre produced single coming out to it being a dre ft jayz underpressure joint instead for detox and we all know jigaa and game aint meshin' so y'all cant count it out...especially with how thse niggaz act over at aftermath and then theres ofcourse the chance someshit might have happened. Or its even possible 50 might have had a hand in this, who knows.

But then this is how rumours start and we won't never know the full story but we'll know some of it when RED drops!




Yeah you know what happened? Dre heard some of Pharrell's wack ass beats..

"Damn Game, it's good to be workin with you again you feel me? Me and you make a good team bruh, aiite lets get down to business at 7 P.M. I gotta leave the spot and go to the studio and pretend like I'm working on Detox.."

*Puts on Pharrell beat*

"............the fukk is this sh!T?!?!?, im out!"


hahaha :laugh:
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 01, 2010, 01:32:36 AM
Thing is people just need to chill on all sides. This wouldn't even be news if so many of you didn't convince yourself that R.E.D. was gonna be an Aftermath album. Wait for the official word before you play the guessing game.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Okka on May 01, 2010, 01:52:37 AM
Album is goin' to suck just like his last one, that's why Dre wants no part of it :D
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Gamestarr on May 01, 2010, 02:00:07 AM
Just... smh
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on May 01, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
I hope his new album does less than Kurupt's in the fish markets.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: MediumL on May 01, 2010, 02:42:31 AM
I was little skeptical when we didn't get a big Dre joint to push this album but hopefully Games got some tracks.

The disappointing thing is that Pharrell is working solo without the help of Chad so the beats aren't quite at the level we'd expect. Listen to Lord Willin and tell me the Neptunes aren't capable of producing  a classic album.
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Post by: YoungCrookedI on May 01, 2010, 03:41:52 AM
suprise supirse, you remeber the doc advocats days he said the same thing to get the buzz; yeah i got some dre beats, nah i donīt need dre....hahaha
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Post by: EnzoUK on May 01, 2010, 03:58:31 AM
no dre tracks??? smh... games a super lame

send me the Khalil tracks, if there is any..

the rest of the album can have a reserved slot in my recycling bin. fuk u pharell
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 01, 2010, 04:00:24 AM
Completely agree wiith the guy above me. What a fuckin joke Game is making himself out to be with all this Dre/Aftermath shit. I have a feeling that Snoop/Game/Dre track will be the only Dre/Aftermath presence on this whole thing. Still doubt he's back on Aftermath too, as has been confirmed by a few sources (including him).

When did game ever confirm he was back on Aftermath? As far as I know it was all fan hype/bullshit. Sounds like Game was so excited to be working with Dre again that he pulled out the old Aftermath chains and took a pic and the fans and their blogging blew this shit out of proportion.

I don't know how anyone would expect this to be a good album based on all the songs we've heard thus far. This just confirms it. Hopefully Jimmy won't let him release this album and delays it several more months until game remembers what a decent track sounds like. Otherwise he's done.
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Post by: Fonkarround on May 01, 2010, 04:00:38 AM
omg game got a style.. lol he always talk shit
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on May 01, 2010, 04:25:21 AM
Aftermath or not its whatever as long as the music is good and I had hope when I heard Pharrell was in charge but so far he gave only wacc beats to Game...
And that foo keep dope ass beat like "Hot N Fun" for himself
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Post by: sofdark on May 01, 2010, 05:38:34 AM
im sure theres gon be a Dre beat, remember that Murda (Murder) track that leaked on snippet? but i knew he was bullshittin' all along.
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Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on May 01, 2010, 05:56:39 AM
Game has some quality shit and im looking forward to his new album and have hopes that it will be a good one. But nobody can front, hes a first class idiot.
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Post by: Jaydc on May 01, 2010, 06:08:54 AM
Hmmm,not surprising.Its a good thing Ive always held to my belief this album would be terrible.If its any good thats just a pleasant surprise.
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Post by: YSH on May 01, 2010, 09:22:54 AM
if this r.e.d album had DRE involved in it ... he wouldnt put out sum pop weak cheap singles... he wouldv had sum hype williams directed how we do type a club bangga
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Mietek23 on May 01, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Album is goin' to suck just like his last one, that's why Dre wants no part of it :D

I think the main problem with Dre being involved with Game's album and all the hype/expectations surrounding it is people still think that Dr. Dre is still like Dr. Dre was 10 years ago in terms of production and they can't get over the fact that he's well past his prime in this subject..
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Post by: Trayvone on May 01, 2010, 10:11:17 AM
Even though Game does lie a lot, I did think there was good reason to believe Dre would be involved with this project. Unlike previous times, Game has been photographed in the studio working with Dre on multiple occasions. Thats why I believed Game this time around, but apparently they were working on Detox perhaps? Whatever the case,  it just trips me out how busy Dre is that he can't work with Cube, Game, Snoop or other artists.

People say Dre is a perfectionist, but the NWA albums, Chronic, Doggystyle were all made within a matter of weeks or couple months. I remember, Snoop saying they were on a deadline to turn in Doggystyle so they had to hurry up and finish it, and they did the entire album in 2 weeks! It doesn't take 10 years to do one album. Dre is just afraid it'll either flop or won't live up to the hype.
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Post by: Fonkarround on May 01, 2010, 10:41:36 AM
Album is goin' to suck just like his last one, that's why Dre wants no part of it :D

I think the main problem with Dre being involved with Game's album and all the hype/expectations surrounding it is people still think that Dr. Dre is still like Dr. Dre was 10 years ago in terms of production and they can't get over the fact that he's well past his prime in this subject..

last 3 weak songs from dre that u heard..
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Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 01, 2010, 11:18:02 AM
Typical Game, im just going to wait until the album drops and ignore all the bull shit inbetween.
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 01, 2010, 11:46:10 AM
Even though Game does lie a lot, I did think there was good reason to believe Dre would be involved with this project. Unlike previous times, Game has been photographed in the studio working with Dre on multiple occasions. Thats why I believed Game this time around, but apparently they were working on Detox perhaps? Whatever the case,  it just trips me out how busy Dre is that he can't work with Cube, Game, Snoop or other artists.

Word.

But he somehow managed to find time to give Eminem 2 full albums worth of beats for him to ruin with songs about being raped by his stepfather, his mom, and his cheesy ass commercial songs.
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Post by: Dre-Day on May 02, 2010, 12:54:14 AM
Album is goin' to suck just like his last one, that's why Dre wants no part of it :D

I think the main problem with Dre being involved with Game's album and all the hype/expectations surrounding it is people still think that Dr. Dre is still like Dr. Dre was 10 years ago in terms of production and they can't get over the fact that he's well past his prime in this subject..
lol at you calling that a fact.

the fact is, that he has evolved as a producer, some are just mad that he didn't stick with the sound he had at death row

Even though Game does lie a lot, I did think there was good reason to believe Dre would be involved with this project. Unlike previous times, Game has been photographed in the studio working with Dre on multiple occasions. Thats why I believed Game this time around, but apparently they were working on Detox perhaps? Whatever the case,  it just trips me out how busy Dre is that he can't work with Cube, Game, Snoop or other artists.

People say Dre is a perfectionist, but the NWA albums, Chronic, Doggystyle were all made within a matter of weeks or couple months. I remember, Snoop saying they were on a deadline to turn in Doggystyle so they had to hurry up and finish it, and they did the entire album in 2 weeks! It doesn't take 10 years to do one album. Dre is just afraid it'll either flop or won't live up to the hype.
??? he's working with Ice Cube again.

by the way, it took a year for Dre to make The Chronic.
Dre didn't spent 10 years on making Detox.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 02, 2010, 06:55:11 AM
^^^ Actually it took Dre/DeathRow 4 months to make that album (The Chronic) and it took about a little more than that to finish Doggystyle.



But Dr. Dre is a cheater when it comes to his legacy.  You KNOW he's worked on those records that came out with his name advertised on them ("It Could've Been You", "The R.E.D Album", and so many countless songs that've leaked in tha past few years).  Dre works on the music and then takes his name off when he reads people's shit on the internet.  Aftermath/Interscope/all music execs in general take this Internet shit a lil' too serious.  Like yeah some people on the internet are gonna hate, some are gonna not even like it and never even listened to it, and so on.


I wish Dre would stop reading shit on the internet and grow some.  They say he doesn't wanna tarnish his legacy but the FACT is he already has with Relapse and Kingdom Come and most of all, all of those D.O.D's (Delays On Detox).  If cuzzo just releases his shit and moves the fuck on, his fans (and future fans too) won't look at him as such a faggot.  I mean, truthfully tho, u lose people's respect when u do what Dre's done on Detox.  As an artist lookin' at another artist, you would come to tha conclusion that Dre lacks the spirit.
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Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 02, 2010, 08:11:15 AM
LOL at this news.  People don't seem to realize that Dr. Dre is basically retired and people use his name to build hype and promote albums that he's not a part of.  Even Dre himself does this to sell his headphones.  (I know I keep repeating myself, but it's funny how people keep falling for the same gimmicks).
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 02, 2010, 05:59:52 PM
LOL at this news.  People don't seem to realize that Dr. Dre is basically retired and people use his name to build hype and promote albums that he's not a part of.  Even Dre himself does this to sell his headphones.  (I know I keep repeating myself, but it's funny how people keep falling for the same gimmicks).


naw, your just late homie.
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Post by: The_Offence on May 02, 2010, 07:18:36 PM
game is fucking clown what did you expect ?
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Post by: Jimmy H. on May 02, 2010, 10:44:49 PM
Even though Game does lie a lot, I did think there was good reason to believe Dre would be involved with this project. Unlike previous times, Game has been photographed in the studio working with Dre on multiple occasions. Thats why I believed Game this time around, but apparently they were working on Detox perhaps? Whatever the case,  it just trips me out how busy Dre is that he can't work with Cube, Game, Snoop or other artists.
I'm pretty sure he is working with all three. People just jumped into believing that he had a bigger role in overseeing R.E.D. than he actually does at the present time. Seems like his mind is on Detox at the moment.
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Post by: T-Dogg on May 02, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
Ha ha! Game always bullshittin...

Whatever. Just come with a good record and let the work speak for itself, no need for the false hype train.
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Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on May 03, 2010, 01:15:28 AM
Even though Game does lie a lot, I did think there was good reason to believe Dre would be involved with this project. Unlike previous times, Game has been photographed in the studio working with Dre on multiple occasions. Thats why I believed Game this time around, but apparently they were working on Detox perhaps? Whatever the case,  it just trips me out how busy Dre is that he can't work with Cube, Game, Snoop or other artists.
I'm pretty sure he is working with all three. People just jumped into believing that he had a bigger role in overseeing R.E.D. than he actually does at the present time. Seems like his mind is on Detox at the moment.

I can assure you his mind isn't on Detox. Read Detox is a Myth!!! post
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Post by: Dre-Day on May 03, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
^but you guys think that no recording sessions ever took place, which is ignorant
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Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on May 03, 2010, 01:52:52 AM
How is believing that nothing has been recorded for Detox ignorant? The facts are leaning to my favour. Although I admit it's all speculation, you are speculating aswell: You don't KNOW if anything has been recorded for Detox  ;)
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Post by: Fonkarround on May 03, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
How is believing that nothing has been recorded for Detox ignorant? The facts are leaning to my favour. Although I admit it's all speculation, you are speculating aswell: You don't KNOW if anything has been recorded for Detox  ;)
okey, your theory and 'detox is a myth' is that dre didnt want to release detox at first, that it wasnt in plans to happen anytime... so u tell me that when dre announced detox in 2002 (?) he was in the studio alooot of times (dont tell me thats not true) and he hasnt been worked on detox even once? just to keep the lie to promote others? u must be fuckin kiddin, who belive in things like that? detox is delayin but so what? u're turnin it into some fuckin conspiracy theory, bigger than 9/11 or iluminatis..
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 09:02:30 AM
^
plus there have been many other artists who confirm they have been in the studio with dre working on detox. It ain't a myth. Its just an album that's never going to get released.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Actually like I've said b4 (and DetoxIsAMyth has some truth in it).  I made a thread b4 about "the album".  Fact is, Detox is a marketing tool.  Yeah, we may get to hear something from it 1 day but by then Dr. Dre may be like "i'm scraping Detox for Straight Outta Compton: Year 3002".  Dre ain't worried about making bar setting albums anymore or even coming back 2 tha game, he said it back in 99'.  Dr. Dre is just really living off of his name.  His music hasn't been wat it used to be and Jimmy and Dre know that.  And look, we can sit here and talk about Detox and the way Aftermath and Dr. Dre works but fact is, we're doing nothing but playing in2 tha game and living the dream of Detox/Dre/Jimmy/Interscope.  Really it's just a way for people to keep talking about them.  Truthfully, if Aftermath and Dr. Dre were serious about Detox we would get more music and the music that comes out wouldn't be half-assed tracks like that T.I. shit was.  And about those leaks, they weren't anything but a marketing tool for T.I. (mainly, since he was goin' 2 jail) and a way for Dre to keep his name out there, along with Detox.  That 12 second snippet made Dre look so insecure, like damn fam, we love u but not like that lol.  12 seconds, wow  ::) i think i'll pass on that 1 next time i'm talking about hip hop or music in general or whatever.


Truthfully, Detox isn't even all that serious anymore, Dre is tryna pull a Quincy Jones and make a mega hit when he's 50 (or around that age), but fact is that could never really happen.  Dr. Dre isn't Dr. Dre anymore and yeah the people will always be talking (how could u not) but it really won't matter; they won't get their R.O.I with that album (and i mean that in more ways than just in terms of sales).  FACT:  The Aftermath machine is getting weaker and weaker.  They're tryna play if off and keep this blind faith that it's not and that they can just bounce back at any moment with the "best" sounding music ever and be back on top/hold the crown and in reality it's not even gonna go down like that.  Not even close.  Not to say it won't have some sorta huge hype behind it (they got the money and the household name and the delays) but this isn't 99' or even 05' for that matter, u know- when shit really woulda mattered.  This is 2010, Aftermath ain't the only fine wine being served.



And what Game said proves nothing but that the Myth of Dr. Dre is true.  That's not a good thing.  Oh yeah, i'm not even thinking about buying those headphones
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 09:31:36 AM
hype is the only thing we'll get from Detox and schemes is the only thing we'll get from Aftermath.  Just bcuz y'all got fans n shit doesn't mean ppl are gonna kiss ur ass.  they might get the surpreme love on facebook and shit like that but if u were to ask people what they really think or what they really wanna say it'd be a total mind fuck 4 em.  i don't care about Aftemath like that, i'm a grown ass man i got other shit 2 think and worry about, even tha younger kids got their own version of Dr. Dre with Kanye West and a select few others.  Obviously there's only 1 Dr. Dre but still.  


We love the classic music that y'all have given us but people have moved on, i'm tryna tell ya.  I just love the hype around it bcuz i love this game and it's the only thing I wanna buy (dre is my favorite, hypocrite right) but i know where 2 draw the line (they've made it so eazy).  Detox will be like those pair of Jordan 18's, u know the 1's people brought that made people think like "hey, there's other shoes that'r better that I'll probably start buying instead".  Shit, the Jordan 17's were the last pair of True Jordans, everything after that (well most) are just shadows of the legacy of the Jordan shoe.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 09:50:04 AM
I like how you're a fan of older music now. When you first came here you didn't give a shit about 90s rap and your favorite rapper was Gucci Mane.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Fonkarround on May 03, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
u can say whatever u want bout dre/jimmy/aftermath/interscope and all that, u can say many things - bad or good.. it doesnt matter, but why would dre announce the album back in 2002, to promote ppl in 2010? yes, it became the promotional thing, but it wasnt at first, and for dre its not.. u are just impatient and cant wait for detox to drop since dre brought so many dope music.. but u gotta realize that his situation is diffrent than normal artists, hes diffrent, look - chronic was released in '92, next album in '99, thats 7 years.. he wasnt workin on the album for 7 years, but he had other things to do, in that situation it was workin on aftermath label.. he announced detox in 2002, and he confirmed after some time that he gave the beats away to other artists, that he spent his time on workin with other artists.. so basicaly he had other things to do.. ppl just get used to rappers that release albums like every year or 2, and when situation is diffrent they panic, create funny theorys like the album is a tool since beggining to promote TI in 2009.. come on!! who would think of that? its just an album being delayed, couse of many reason that we may dont even know, nobody here knows whats dre situation, whats goin on with it... just give it a fuckin break and stop bein funny
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 03, 2010, 10:08:28 AM
^but you guys think that no recording sessions ever took place, which is ignorant

I never said I don't believe recording sessions took place.  I'm sure Dre records with artists.  What does that have to do with anything, especially with regard to what I'm saying?  If you think Aftermath isn't using the myth of Detox to promote and market other albums, then that's just equally as ignorant.

And to Doobie: how can I be late when I was the first one here to explain why Detox is not going to drop?  Sure, others before me said "Detox will never drop," but I was the first one to explain WHY.  So no I'm not late.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on May 03, 2010, 10:21:12 AM
u can say whatever u want bout dre/jimmy/aftermath/interscope and all that, u can say many things - bad or good.. it doesnt matter, but why would dre announce the album back in 2002, to promote ppl in 2010? yes, it became the promotional thing, but it wasnt at first, and for dre its not.. u are just impatient and cant wait for detox to drop since dre brought so many dope music.. but u gotta realize that his situation is diffrent than normal artists, hes diffrent, look - chronic was released in '92, next album in '99, thats 7 years.. he wasnt workin on the album for 7 years, but he had other things to do, in that situation it was workin on aftermath label.. he announced detox in 2002, and he confirmed after some time that he gave the beats away to other artists, that he spent his time on workin with other artists.. so basicaly he had other things to do.. ppl just get used to rappers that release albums like every year or 2, and when situation is diffrent they panic, create funny theorys like the album is a tool since beggining to promote TI in 2009.. come on!! who would think of that? its just an album being delayed, couse of many reason that we may dont even know, nobody here knows whats dre situation, whats goin on with it... just give it a fuckin break and stop bein funny

I just go by the few facts that we have, which is that nobody knows if any recording sessions have taken place nor that Detox has any completed tracks. Don't you think all these rappers and producers gain benefit from mentioning that they have contributed to the Detox project? Example: would anyone give half the shit they give for Bishop Lamont if he didn't mention Dre or Detox on multiple occasions? Would the hype surrounding Game's R.E.D album be the same if all these rumours that Dre is contributing to it be the same? Think about it. Also, Dre announced the first singel for Detox about a month ago, and what was the track that got released last friday? Eminem's new one. If you look at it, me and Detox is a Myth!!!'s theories makes more sense than all this BS you guys believe in.

If you believe what these idiot rappers and producers say then I'm going to leave you to it, because if you do, you're wasting nothing but time and energy.  In fact, that's what this whole "Detox" thing should be called: the time waster.

And another thing: you claim me and Detox is a Myth!!! front "Detox" as a concipary theory, when you youreself talk about "he wasnt workin on the album for 7 years, but he had other things to do, in that situation it was workin on aftermath label.. he announced detox in 2002, and he confirmed after some time that he gave the beats away to other artists, that he spent his time on workin with other artists.."
Isn't that the same excact thing? You know as little as we do, so you claiming that we're cooking up a conspiracy theory is extremely paradoxal.
Title: trust me, no1 is being funny
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 10:28:43 AM
I like how you're a fan of older music now. When you first came here you didn't give a shit about 90s rap and your favorite rapper was Gucci Mane.


i guess that's the RadioTube! joke.  i don't like anything old and i've stuck 2 my story since day 1 that Gucci is the Goat.  lol.  i guess... but seriously tho, that shit is pretty wack and inaccurate.  plz address me correctly and leave tha sarcasm elsewhere... thanks


but as far as what Pere is talking about, you just haven't been n tune long enuff to understand i guess.  Interscope is assuming that people will Kiss Ass bcuz Dr. Dre's name is involved in it so they play this game of new Dre music since people can't get enuff and they make it SEEM as if there is something there when in reality it's most likely possible that there's nothing there at all.  I don't know what you're smokin but you're just making excuses to keep this thing alive in your mind that Dr. Dre is gonna come back and save Hip Hop and restore it to it's purest form when in reality IF it does come out it'll be extremely commercialized like a Scorsesie movie with all of the top acts and it won't be anything close to what you're imagining about Detox, the album will be about as commercial as u can get.  And that's IF it comes out.  


Interscope ain't stupid, they're absolutely aware but they DONT CARE, this is what they want.  They want people to talk and debate about it all day, debate about the truthfulness and what's needed for the secret ingredient of a classic album (like we're doing now).  That's the whole game, and yes, it was promo for T.I., what you think outta the blue TI and Dre just happened to hook up right b4 TIP went to jail and that's all it was, it's funny how we haven't heard anything new since then, not even a peep about TI's contribution to Detox, it was what it was and nothing more, no new tracks no new photos no new anything, all of a sudden it's Dre/Jay and not Dre/TI or Dre/Snoop (it's all Hype my brotha, all hype).  I'm sure Dre has tunes lined up for decades as far as the work for his solo material is concerned but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not here yet and you're waiting on an imaginary album of 12 tracks when he's completed probably thousands since the start.  I think ur living with a blind faith more than me (or anybody) is living with the theories of detox.  


Aftermath/Detox is all gas.  Aftermath might as well change it's name from "Aftermath Entertainment" to "Detox Productions".  What you've heard Dre release over these years since the start of the talk of Detox don't get no better than what you've heard.  all of this talk about "oh it's not mixed right" or "dre didn't like it" or "it's not finished" is just an excuse.  IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD.  Dre may be saving his best work for himself but how much better/more unique can Dr. Dre's sound get.  It's Ghetto Techno Funk Orchestra music, and it's not even all that Ghetto anymore.  You've heard what's it's gonna sound like thru BISD, Relapse, and everything else that's out.  Dre isn't about to come out with a completely new sound and formula except for the fact that'll it'll be more glittery.  Like i said it's all gas.  The real reason y Game said "dre's role is unclear" is bcuz Dre didn't like the responses from the people (and maybe the music too lol) and dissassociated with himself bcuz the people didn't deem it classic.  Dr. Dre is a cheater and will do anything to keep his name in an elite type of light, and selling the dream of Detox is just 1 way of doing it if u can see clearly.  
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 10:32:32 AM
[And to Doobie: how can I be late when I was the first one here to explain why Detox is not going to drop?  Sure, others before me said "Detox will never drop," but I was the first one to explain WHY.  So no I'm not late.


no actually i made a topic about something similar/damn near dead on about detox that pertains to ur Moniker and next thing u know u popped up.  i'm not tryna be funny but this i know, y, bcuz i'm the 1 who started coming out with those threads (i think it was 2 of them over a period of time).  u probably just didn't see/read it or saw my thread when i was under a different alias. 
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 10:34:22 AM
Reading radiotubes posts kills brain cells.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 10:38:51 AM
Reading radiotubes posts kills brain cells.

but they enlighten the soul.  this is true.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
Saying gucci mane has 9 songs better then illmatic kills souls,it doesnt enlightem them.Go back to finger painting.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 10:47:11 AM
Saying gucci mane has 9 songs better then illmatic kills souls,it doesnt enlightem them.Go back to finger painting.


all u wanted to do was talk to me.  yeah i said that 2 years ago but i only said that bcuz y'all on here couldn't get past the fact that there was new music today (from whoever) that could compete with the music of yesterday.  stop being my hater-groupie and grow up.  stop stalking me for my attention.  shit is ridiculous foreal, i ignore u and u keep going.  ur pretty much done after this.  let's play a game; let's see if i give a fuck about whatchu have 2 say.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 03, 2010, 10:48:45 AM
Truthfully, Detox isn't even all that serious anymore, Dre is tryna pull a Quincy Jones and make a mega hit when he's 50 (or around that age), but fact is that could never really happen.  Dr. Dre isn't Dr. Dre anymore and yeah the people will always be talking (how could u not) but it really won't matter; they won't get their R.O.I with that album (and i mean that in more ways than just in terms of sales).  FACT:  The Aftermath machine is getting weaker and weaker.  
Calling "opinions" facts does not actually make them so.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Muhfukka on May 03, 2010, 10:52:33 AM
Reading radiotubes posts kills brain cells.
you dont have many brain cells to begin with if you read more than two sentences of any of his posts
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 10:57:02 AM
I actually dont read any of his posts,but I should theirs always a few nuggets of absolute moronic hilarity rivaling lights posts in each one.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 11:00:44 AM
Truthfully, Detox isn't even all that serious anymore, Dre is tryna pull a Quincy Jones and make a mega hit when he's 50 (or around that age), but fact is that could never really happen.  Dr. Dre isn't Dr. Dre anymore and yeah the people will always be talking (how could u not) but it really won't matter; they won't get their R.O.I with that album (and i mean that in more ways than just in terms of sales).  FACT:  The Aftermath machine is getting weaker and weaker.  
Calling "opinions" facts does not actually make them so.


u really think it's possible that Dre pulls another "Nothin' But A G Thang" again.  U actually think he's gonna get all the old and young people dancing in the club and bumpin in the streets and living by his music like the bible just like The Chronic did or Straight Outta Compton did.  I don't think so.  I think it's possible for Dre to have another good run with a bomb ass big single, yeah, of course i do,  but he'll fade out quicker than u can blink.  I'm tellin' u, 6 months after Detox drops it'll look what Jay is doing with The Blueprint 3 right now.  Yeah it's hot, yeah he's got tha hit singles, yeah he's got this and that but once that 7 month hits people will be thinking about something else.  it's guaranteed.  


see the difference with Detox is compared to 2001 or even The Chronic is that Dre had something HUGE to follow it up with with Snoop and Eminem and but who's on Aftermath that people are really looking forward too, see they are what helped Dre get to where he's at and not neccessarily the other way around.  It's damn sure not gonna be Slim, it was never Bishop (even tho Bishop was that nigga for a second, atleast in my eyes), and it's damn sure not any of the other talent on the roster.  Dre has no follow up with Detox, nothing good anyway, the only way Dre could pull another "DeathRow" with Detox is to release all of the other good music recorded for Detox with his ex-roster with tracks with Dre featuring Rakim, Eve, Busta, and so on.  That sir isn't opinion, it's fact.  That's how Dre works and has always worked (new artist promo/tracks/buzz (Deep Cover, My Name Is) - new Dr. Dre album - new mega artist album (Doggystyle, SSLP).  Trust me, i dont wanna sound like a nut hugger but i've been following this man's career and body of work since i was born.  
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Fonkarround on May 03, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
I like how you're a fan of older music now. When you first came here you didn't give a shit about 90s rap and your favorite rapper was Gucci Mane.


i guess that's the RadioTube! joke.  i don't like anything old and i've stuck 2 my story since day 1 that Gucci is the Goat.  lol.  i guess... but seriously tho, that shit is pretty wack and inaccurate.  plz address me correctly and leave tha sarcasm elsewhere... thanks


but as far as what Pere is talking about, you just haven't been n tune long enuff to understand i guess.  Interscope is assuming that people will Kiss Ass bcuz Dr. Dre's name is involved in it so they play this game of new Dre music since people can't get enuff and they make it SEEM as if there is something there when in reality it's most likely possible that there's nothing there at all.  I don't know what you're smokin but you're just making excuses to keep this thing alive in your mind that Dr. Dre is gonna come back and save Hip Hop and restore it to it's purest form when in reality IF it does come out it'll be extremely commercialized like a Scorsesie movie with all of the top acts and it won't be anything close to what you're imagining about Detox, the album will be about as commercial as u can get.  And that's IF it comes out.  


Interscope ain't stupid, they're absolutely aware but they DONT CARE, this is what they want.  They want people to talk and debate about it all day, debate about the truthfulness and what's needed for the secret ingredient of a classic album (like we're doing now).  That's the whole game, and yes, it was promo for T.I., what you think outta the blue TI and Dre just happened to hook up right b4 TIP went to jail and that's all it was, it's funny how we haven't heard anything new since then, not even a peep about TI's contribution to Detox, it was what it was and nothing more, no new tracks no new photos no new anything, all of a sudden it's Dre/Jay and not Dre/TI or Dre/Snoop (it's all Hype my brotha, all hype).  I'm sure Dre has tunes lined up for decades as far as the work for his solo material is concerned but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not here yet and you're waiting on an imaginary album of 12 tracks when he's completed probably thousands since the start.  I think ur living with a blind faith more than me (or anybody) is living with the theories of detox.  


Aftermath/Detox is all gas.  Aftermath might as well change it's name from "Aftermath Entertainment" to "Detox Productions".  What you've heard Dre release over these years since the start of the talk of Detox don't get no better than what you've heard.  all of this talk about "oh it's not mixed right" or "dre didn't like it" or "it's not finished" is just an excuse.  IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD.  Dre may be saving his best work for himself but how much better/more unique can Dr. Dre's sound get.  It's Ghetto Techno Funk Orchestra music, and it's not even all that Ghetto anymore.  You've heard what's it's gonna sound like thru BISD, Relapse, and everything else that's out.  Dre isn't about to come out with a completely new sound and formula except for the fact that'll it'll be more glittery.  Like i said it's all gas.  The real reason y Game said "dre's role is unclear" is bcuz Dre didn't like the responses from the people (and maybe the music too lol) and dissassociated with himself bcuz the people didn't deem it classic.  Dr. Dre is a cheater and will do anything to keep his name in an elite type of light, and selling the dream of Detox is just 1 way of doing it if u can see clearly.  

you know what - i got kinda tired of those detox discussions.. ppl specualte, tell their theorys, but i dont see no sense of it now.. everybody gotta admit that we have no idea whats dre plan bout 'detox' - of course we can speculate, we can say whats more logic, whats more realistic to happen, but that wont go nowhere, we wont find out the truth, i got mine theory bout 'detox' same as everybody, and im not goin to tell you or anybody else what to believe.. i dont give up my theorys, i just quit the overall discussion bout 'detox' album conception.. ;)
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 11:06:18 AM
you know what - i got kinda tired of those detox discussions.. ppl specualte, tell their theorys, but i dont see no sense of it now.. everybody gotta admit that we have no idea whats dre plan bout 'detox' - of course we can speculate, we can say whats more logic, whats more realistic to happen, but that wont go nowhere, we wont find out the truth, i got mine theory bout 'detox' same as everybody, and im not goin to tell you or anybody else what to believe.. i dont give up my theorys, i just quit the overall discussion bout 'detox' album conception.. ;)


lol, see that's what we're trying to say.  that's all it is homie, it's nothing but talk and gas.  that's all it's really ever been.  something should've spawned or leaked by now, it's just too much bullshit and time in between 4 it not to be.  what you just said is really the truth about Detox.  It's all people's imagination.  but ur right tho, the theories and opinions are kinda at an all time senselessness at this point.  i mean, it's really not all that hard to tell that it's nothn more than what we've been getting.
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 03, 2010, 11:45:23 AM
u really think it's possible that Dre pulls another "Nothin' But A G Thang" again.  U actually think he's gonna get all the old and young people dancing in the club and bumpin in the streets and living by his music like the bible just like The Chronic did or Straight Outta Compton did.  I don't think so.  I think it's possible for Dre to have another good run with a bomb ass big single, yeah, of course i do,  but he'll fade out quicker than u can blink.  I'm tellin' u, 6 months after Detox drops it'll look what Jay is doing with The Blueprint 3 right now.  Yeah it's hot, yeah he's got tha hit singles, yeah he's got this and that but once that 7 month hits people will be thinking about something else.  it's guaranteed.  

see the difference with Detox is compared to 2001 or even The Chronic is that Dre had something HUGE to follow it up with with Snoop and Eminem and but who's on Aftermath that people are really looking forward too, see they are what helped Dre get to where he's at and not neccessarily the other way around.  It's damn sure not gonna be Slim, it was never Bishop (even tho Bishop was that nigga for a second, atleast in my eyes), and it's damn sure not any of the other talent on the roster.  Dre has no follow up with Detox, nothing good anyway, the only way Dre could pull another "DeathRow" with Detox is to release all of the other good music recorded for Detox with his ex-roster with tracks with Dre featuring Rakim, Eve, Busta, and so on.  That sir isn't opinion, it's fact.  That's how Dre works and has always worked (new artist promo/tracks/buzz (Deep Cover, My Name Is) - new Dr. Dre album - new mega artist album (Doggystyle, SSLP).  Trust me, i dont wanna sound like a nut hugger but i've been following this man's career and body of work since i was born.  
Dre doesn't have to pull another "G Thang" out the hat. And while I realize the potential possibiltiy of Detox being a critical flop, at least with how the fans receive it, I don't consider it a foregon conclusion or fact or guarantee.

And for the record, the "new mega artist album" that was Slim Shady LP actually dropped BEFORE the "new Dr. Dre album" that was 2001. Yes, we've become acustomed to accepting the formula as a set-in-stone business model but every now and again, it changes. I really don't buy facts and guarantees based on Interent hersay. It was supposed to be a wrap for Aftermath years ago but they still manage to be here. And 6 months on Detox, I'd call a poor guess. It took a lot of people longer than that to come around on "2001". We'll see what happens.

I also fail to see how compiling old music from the Aftermath vaults will help Dre pull another "Death Row".
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 12:31:12 PM
Dre doesn't have to pull another "G Thang" out the hat. And while I realize the potential possibiltiy of Detox being a critical flop, at least with how the fans receive it, I don't consider it a foregon conclusion or fact or guarantee.

And for the record, the "new mega artist album" that was Slim Shady LP actually dropped BEFORE the "new Dr. Dre album" that was 2001. Yes, we've become acustomed to accepting the formula as a set-in-stone business model but every now and again, it changes. I really don't buy facts and guarantees based on Interent hersay. It was supposed to be a wrap for Aftermath years ago but they still manage to be here. And 6 months on Detox, I'd call a poor guess. It took a lot of people longer than that to come around on "2001". We'll see what happens.

I also fail to see how compiling old music from the Aftermath vaults will help Dre pull another "Death Row".

stop trying to find a reason y i'm wrong (not to say u ONLY have to listen to what i'm sayin) but it sounds like ur just tryna look at it from a different angle than what it really is.  and DUH the album dropped b4 2001, that was the whole scheme (the Deep Cover soundtrack was the Prequel to The Chronic, if u don't count the NWA material, but the only thing was it was just a single instead of an album).  That formula doesn't change up and it hasn't changed up.  That's why it's taking so long (as far as Dre even thinking about releasing something).  No1 is there to give him that "fresh breathe of air brand new" momentum again like the debuts of Snoop and Eminem, which is why "The Recovery" is coming out b4 we even hear/get anything new from Detox, i don't really think that was the game plan, not like how it's unfolding anyways, they way they're tryna put Detox in2 play and all of sudden we get an Eminem album.


Think about it, there's no1 there either to give Dre that AfterShock like Tha Dogg Pound or G Unit did too.  I can't forsee Hayes getting any real burn without Dre/Timbo paying people big $$$ to play his music and put him in the limelight and on the single (which is ALL THEY care about).  There's ABSOLUTELY no REAL MAJOR Buzz on that nigga and he's been around long enuff and has put in enuff work to make people decide on whether he's gonna be tha next big thing or not (trust me, u would KNOW by now).  No1 talks about this guy except on the internet, and agree with it or not but that's pretty much a fact too.  And what makes it even worse is that he has the TWO biggest Producers and labels behind him and I don't see anybody knocking down any walls or throwing temper tantrums like they did for let's say 50 Cent or even Bishop Lamont 4 that matter.  *not hatin' just sayin*

*and 4 tha record, u c that that NEW interview from Hayes hasn't even reached 400 views yet (i havent even bothered to care to read it), shit like that tells u alot especially between all of the members AND guests on here everyday or even weekly and monthly, it can't be poppin' better than that on the other sites either*
but i can say without a doubt i would love to see Hayes write a song or two or whatever for Dre on Detox, that would be good.  of course some1 else would have 2 write that hook tho lol, i can't really remember off the top a good hook that Hayes laid down that made me go like damn, that shit is crazy... i guess maybe the verses he was spittin' turned me off a little, idk.


That 3 headed monster turned out to be a 2-Headed Goose.  U know once after this new Eminem album drops we won't be hearing anything new from Aftermath until the NEXT Eminem or Game album comes out or if the off chance Dre finds another new Overnight MegaSuperStar Protege' again which is highly unlikely.  This shit isn't "Internet Hear-Say", this is what it's become, a joke-a lie- a myth- a marketing tool- and a game all which is based upon the public's perception, theories, imagination, and demand.  


I guess I didn't word that "DeathRow" comment right.  I was pretty much saying that if Dre wants that GodFather everything I touch turns in2 gold again, he would have to go back in2 tha Aftermath Vaults and pull out all of the Classic/Best music from the best artist like Eve, Stat, Ortiz, etc and then release it all as "new" music.  That way all that "new" old music will sound fresh and give Aftermath that same aura all over again that they once had or that DeathRow used to have.  IF it's actually that good.


But the overall issue isn't how good the music is gonna be or how critically acclaimed it's gonna be or how people on dubcc or whever feel about it and damn sure not what it's gonna sell, naw none of that shit.  The real issue is it's authenticity, is it really a real album or is Detox just something that Dre/Interscope uses to promote their brand.  FACT:  WestCoast artist actually led the way in the digital age music movement (Crooked I, Glasses Malone, etc), Dr. Dre isn't any different.  i mean how long are you guys gonna actually sit around and think "Boss Music" and "The Beach Cruiser" is real, it's all lies.  Those albums are already out, they're just spead out thru different mixtapes and guest verses.  The beats and SONGS (which i won't doubt) for Detox (which is said from the horses mouth) has/was all given to the Aftermath artist for their albums, what makes u think he stopped doin that just bcuz all of this time has gone by and now this nigga finally learnt how 2 use a camera and work the masses thru the computer instead of just the music.  It's nothing more than just a selling/buzz tool for their brand.  


IF it were to come out it would probably be just some shit he made like maybe 1 or 2 years before up until that time.  Dre knows what he's doing and what he's capable of and I'm pretty sure the man knows what he wants.  And people talking about him is all he cares about bcuz "once they stop talking...".  I say just release the shit, all of the shit, it doesn't really matter at this point.  it's Aftermath, i'm sure it'll be pretty good no matter what... even if the tracks aren't "completed" by Dre's standards (whatever that is).
Title: Re: Game says Dre's Role is UNCLEAR on R.E.D. Album. SMH
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 03, 2010, 11:24:12 PM
stop trying to find a reason y i'm wrong (not to say u ONLY have to listen to what i'm sayin) but it sounds like ur just tryna look at it from a different angle than what it really is.  

I don't have to find one. It's there. You're putting out opinions and calling them facts. They aren't facts. They are predictions.

I guess I didn't word that "DeathRow" comment right.  I was pretty much saying that if Dre wants that GodFather everything I touch turns in2 gold again, he would have to go back in2 tha Aftermath Vaults and pull out all of the Classic/Best music from the best artist like Eve, Stat, Ortiz, etc and then release it all as "new" music.  That way all that "new" old music will sound fresh and give Aftermath that same aura all over again that they once had or that DeathRow used to have.  IF it's actually that good.
Five-year-old vault music from Eve and Stat Quo isn't going to return Dre to anything. If people get told ahead of time that it's from 2005-06, some Internet folks with hard-ons for that kind of shit might jump on it but other than that, nothing much would change. Fans run hot and cold on this shit. When 2001 was first hitting shelves, they wanted Chronic Death Row shit. When G-Unit and Game were making waves, they wanted Hittman and the cats he was working with from the 2001 period. Now, everybody says they need it to be like such and such. "Detox" will sell what it will sell regardless unless they drop the wackest single imaginable and even then the Dre Stans and detractors will still eat it up equally.

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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 04, 2010, 01:33:28 AM
stop trying to find a reason y i'm wrong (not to say u ONLY have to listen to what i'm sayin) but it sounds like ur just tryna look at it from a different angle than what it really is.  

I don't have to find one. It's there. You're putting out opinions and calling them facts. They aren't facts. They are predictions.

I guess I didn't word that "DeathRow" comment right.  I was pretty much saying that if Dre wants that GodFather everything I touch turns in2 gold again, he would have to go back in2 tha Aftermath Vaults and pull out all of the Classic/Best music from the best artist like Eve, Stat, Ortiz, etc and then release it all as "new" music.  That way all that "new" old music will sound fresh and give Aftermath that same aura all over again that they once had or that DeathRow used to have.  IF it's actually that good.
Five-year-old vault music from Eve and Stat Quo isn't going to return Dre to anything. If people get told ahead of time that it's from 2005-06, some Internet folks with hard-ons for that kind of shit might jump on it but other than that, nothing much would change. Fans run hot and cold on this shit. When 2001 was first hitting shelves, they wanted Chronic Death Row shit. When G-Unit and Game were making waves, they wanted Hittman and the cats he was working with from the 2001 period. Now, everybody says they need it to be like such and such. "Detox" will sell what it will sell regardless unless they drop the wackest single imaginable and even then the Dre Stans and detractors will still eat it up equally.

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didn't read any of radiotube's essays but cosign this
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Post by: UDollar A.K.A Nino on May 04, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
hahahahahaha, this is fucking funny.. :D
Hope it will end up like the doctors advocate, cus that album was the bomb.....
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
Dr. Dre's career is over,
over, everybody get a life now!
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Post by: Unforgivable by Sean John on May 04, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
This isn't important enough to get its own thread, so I'm just going to throw it down here:

apparently dr. dre did a remix to chicken grease (by D'Angelo) that was never released???

I can only imagine how good that one must be.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 07:59:47 PM
This isn't important enough to get its own thread, so I'm just going to throw it down here:

apparently dr. dre did a remix to chicken grease (by D'Angelo) that was never released???

I can only imagine how good that one must be.


it's probably 1 of those Dre beats that sound something like "family affair" in terms of the commericialness.  i doubt if it was a 20sack of crack that Dre be doin' at times.  could be, but i doubt it, we woulda heard it by now.  maybe it's just something some1 posted years ago that had no truth to it, shit like that does happen.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:02:16 PM
Dr. Dre's career is over,
over, everybody get a life now!


it's not over but Dre probably will never see tha days of deathrow/2001 anymore that's forshure.  Eminem ain't even tha same Marshall anymore, and will never be, even if he's the 1st white rapper to have supreme longevity in Hip Hop.  DRE what Jermaine Dupri is to Hip Hop right now, a legendary producer that's still hot but ain't damn near what he used to be.  time takes it's toll on EVERYBODY, no matter who u r Dr. Dre (if ur readin).
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:04:56 PM
Dre done man! He ain't putting in no more work!  Got other dudes programming his shit, man, he done.  I don't even wanna hear that name no more unless we talking about some old school classic shit.  Dre aint fucking with the new times man.  Dude like 45
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:11:14 PM
Dre done man! He ain't putting in no more work!  Got other dudes programming his shit, man, he done.  I don't even wanna hear that name no more unless we talking about some old school classic shit.  Dre aint fucking with the new times man.  Dude like 45

u know, ur right.  Detox should've been dropped since 2007.  Dre ain't tha same no more and never will be.  Just drop tha damn album already and bow out gracefully, all he's doin' is settin' himself up for a big ass fall on his face if he's expectin' 2 come out and re-root the game again.  he's had his time.  The only reason y Jay and Cube are around still is bcuz he keeps dropping music consistantly (well atleast Cube is always up2 somethin).  Dr. Dre doesn't do any of that, besides give Mathers tight beats and letting him BULLSHIT all over it.  but honestly, i dont really think the guy cares.  I think we the fans AND bloggers care more about Detox and Aftermath Entertainment than he does.
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
Detox ain't never coming, i knew that shit when they said it was gonna be called 'Detox', im like, damn, they ain't blowing that chronic no more, whats that gonna sound like? lol...but on a serious note, the shit ain't coming.  Crooked I gonna go 3x platinum before Detox drop.
and it hurts my heart to say that, cuz Crooked is that dude!
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 08:15:40 PM
how much has cube HURT your HEART by wearin that hat? lol
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:18:58 PM
Detox ain't never coming, i knew that shit when they said it was gonna be called 'Detox', im like, damn, they ain't blowing that chronic no more, whats that gonna sound like? lol...but on a serious note, the shit ain't coming.  Crooked I gonna go 3x platinum before Detox drop.
and it hurts my heart to say that, cuz Crooked is that dude!



yeah i feel u.  i started thinkin tha same way back in 08'.  i'm like damn, 6/7 years no album no nothin and all we've been hearin about Detox is it's about to drop and then we get a albums and tapes from 50 and Eminem and now Eminem again and then Game again (the nigga literally left Aftermath and got re-signed and dropped an album b4 Dre, that says alot about Detox - let alone Dr. Dre).  it's 1 of Hip Hop worse tragedies foreal, i know that sounds funny but it's true.
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:20:25 PM
how much has cube HURT your HEART by wearin that hat? lol

not at all, why would you say that...did I really sound mad to you?
I think he looks corny as a black man wearing a sombrero, i think mexicans look corny wearing a sombrero,
i think its corny Im even conversating with you, because to me, you are 'Crazy Jay's' lil fagget ass cheerleader, and i would break your whole mouth, teeth in all, if i knew who you were, and were you resided.  I would terrorist you, so go out of your way to never ever ever conversate with me again, unless you are here in LA, and you would like to meet up to get your face put in the dirt.  Capiche?
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:22:34 PM
Detox ain't never coming, i knew that shit when they said it was gonna be called 'Detox', im like, damn, they ain't blowing that chronic no more, whats that gonna sound like? lol...but on a serious note, the shit ain't coming.  Crooked I gonna go 3x platinum before Detox drop.
and it hurts my heart to say that, cuz Crooked is that dude!



yeah i feel u.  i started thinkin tha same way back in 08'.  i'm like damn, 6/7 years no album no nothin and all we've been hearin about Detox is it's about to drop and then we get a albums and tapes from 50 and Eminem and now Eminem again and then Game again (the nigga literally left Aftermath and got re-signed and dropped an album b4 Dre, that says alot about Detox - let alone Dr. Dre).  it's 1 of Hip Hop worse tragedies foreal, i know that sounds funny but it's true.

real talk
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
your english aint bad.....considerin you tryna drop big words for ya lil gangsta self..
I would terrorist you.....wrong
I would terrorize you....right..... ;)
lol @ go outta my way to never conversate with you again...who are you again?
cube really got you hurt




how much has cube HURT your HEART by wearin that hat? lol

not at all, why would you say that...did I really sound mad to you?
I think he looks corny as a black man wearing a sombrero, i think mexicans look corny wearing a sombrero,
i think its corny Im even conversating with you, because to me, you are 'Crazy Jay's' lil fagget ass cheerleader, and i would break your whole mouth, teeth in all, if i knew who you were, and were you resided.  I would terrorist you, so go out of your way to never ever ever conversate with me again, unless you are here in LA, and you would like to meet up to get your face put in the dirt.  Capiche?
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:28:21 PM
Detox ain't never coming, i knew that shit when they said it was gonna be called 'Detox', im like, damn, they ain't blowing that chronic no more, whats that gonna sound like? lol...but on a serious note, the shit ain't coming.  Crooked I gonna go 3x platinum before Detox drop.
and it hurts my heart to say that, cuz Crooked is that dude!



yeah i feel u.  i started thinkin tha same way back in 08'.  i'm like damn, 6/7 years no album no nothin and all we've been hearin about Detox is it's about to drop and then we get a albums and tapes from 50 and Eminem and now Eminem again and then Game again (the nigga literally left Aftermath and got re-signed and dropped an album b4 Dre, that says alot about Detox - let alone Dr. Dre).  it's 1 of Hip Hop worse tragedies foreal, i know that sounds funny but it's true.

real talk


yeah, don't worry about GetYourWalkOn (A.C.S., wherever the fuck that name came from).  Him and a couple other broads on here are always yappin' about somethin' and tryna spin words around, it's what they do, they're square ass nerds so don't even pay em no 'ttention.  all they'll do is try 2 make u look bad but fail everytime, worst part about it iz, they'll never know how much of a fagg they look like and how dumb their arguements and comments are.  they do it 4 attention and it's strickly based all around ignorance, false accusations, and stupidity.  they don't have lives. 


i can't tell u how many times i've seen them fail.  the new thing they got goin' on now is that Joe Buddens is some HUGE MEGA online/street mega super rap star and is one of the GOATS of this game bcuz he has 17,000 forum members (if it's really that) and sold 35K records (which probably most were sold in Jersey and NY).  they're just jokers foreal.
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
your english aint bad.....considerin you tryna drop big words for ya lil gangsta self..
I would terrorist you.....wrong
I would terrorize you....right..... ;)
lol @ go outta my way to never conversate with you again...who are you again?
cube really got you hurt




how much has cube HURT your HEART by wearin that hat? lol

not at all, why would you say that...did I really sound mad to you?
I think he looks corny as a black man wearing a sombrero, i think mexicans look corny wearing a sombrero,
i think its corny Im even conversating with you, because to me, you are 'Crazy Jay's' lil fagget ass cheerleader, and i would break your whole mouth, teeth in all, if i knew who you were, and were you resided.  I would terrorist you, so go out of your way to never ever ever conversate with me again, unless you are here in LA, and you would like to meet up to get your face put in the dirt.  Capiche?

look, where you at man?  enough with the games...where you bes at? hows that for English, you ain't gonna know English when i smack you in the face with a dictionary.

and for the record, this goes for latinos, black people, everybody

FUCK ENGLISH, MOTHER FUCK ENGLISH

I speak American, this ain't England you Snob ass motherfucker, FUCK ENGLAND! and ENGLISH
for the record.
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
Detox ain't never coming, i knew that shit when they said it was gonna be called 'Detox', im like, damn, they ain't blowing that chronic no more, whats that gonna sound like? lol...but on a serious note, the shit ain't coming.  Crooked I gonna go 3x platinum before Detox drop.
and it hurts my heart to say that, cuz Crooked is that dude!



yeah i feel u.  i started thinkin tha same way back in 08'.  i'm like damn, 6/7 years no album no nothin and all we've been hearin about Detox is it's about to drop and then we get a albums and tapes from 50 and Eminem and now Eminem again and then Game again (the nigga literally left Aftermath and got re-signed and dropped an album b4 Dre, that says alot about Detox - let alone Dr. Dre).  it's 1 of Hip Hop worse tragedies foreal, i know that sounds funny but it's true.

real talk


yeah, don't worry about GetYourWalkOn (A.C.S., wherever the fuck that name came from).  Him and a couple other broads on here are always yappin' about somethin' and tryna spin words around, it's what they do, they're square ass nerds so don't even pay em no 'ttention.  all they'll do is try 2 make u look bad but fail everytime, worst part about it iz, they'll never know how much of a fagg they look like and how dumb their arguements and comments are.  they do it 4 attention and it's strickly based all around ignorance, false accusations, and stupidity.  they don't have lives.

fa sho, and im breaking kush, so he finna be talking to himself in like 2 secs.
Good look on the heads up, I was finna hack this site and get is IP address and do some dirty dirty research.
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Post by: Jaydc on May 04, 2010, 08:37:46 PM
LOL @ the two dumbest people on the forum finding eachother and having a love connection. :love2:
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:38:13 PM
fa sho, and im breaking kush, so he finna be talking to himself in like 2 secs.
Good look on the heads up, I was finna hack this site and get is IP address and do some dirty dirty research.

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too bad u didn't lol.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 08:40:18 PM
LOL @ the two dumbest people on the forum finding eachother and having a love connection. :love2:


see what i mean.  



Pretty soon they'll be hanging on to every word u write.  shit gets that serious around here, and truthfully it gets kinda scary lol.  like damn, u don't have a life do u.  1 time i had 2 air out ChamillitaryClick for stalkin tha shit outta me.  I had to put a warning sign in my signature on his ass, son was trippin' foreal.  the same might happen to u, so be aware... real talk.  They will be infactuated with u now that they know u come correct and not as some fake ass nigga bloggin n shit.  i be bloggin' but damn, i ain't fake and i always come correct even if i have 2 get a lil iggy.


and it's scary bcuz u dont know their TRUE intentions.  only syckoz b doin the shit they do foreal.  these bamaz take that shit to a whole nutha level.
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Post by: Jaydc on May 04, 2010, 08:59:47 PM
this guy writes 12 paragraphs every response and has to edit each post and says other people take shit too serious LOL
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 09:04:27 PM
jay....hes mad that cube is wearin his hat....they feds are runnin up on em wit that illegal alien shit
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 04, 2010, 09:17:04 PM
ey, fuck all yall, catch the fade!
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Post by: Jimmy H. on May 04, 2010, 09:31:07 PM
it's not over but Dre probably will never see tha days of deathrow/2001 anymore that's forshure.  Eminem ain't even tha same Marshall anymore, and will never be, even if he's the 1st white rapper to have supreme longevity in Hip Hop.  DRE what Jermaine Dupri is to Hip Hop right now, a legendary producer that's still hot but ain't damn near what he used to be.  time takes it's toll on EVERYBODY, no matter who u r Dr. Dre (if ur readin).
Most of us figured these things out years ago. I was never expecting another 2001 or Death Row era sound from Dre. I'm not expecting another Marshall Mathers LP from Eminem. Game is never gonna do another Documentary. Cube will never sound like he did on "Death Certificate" or "Predator" again. The word I'm looking for here is... DUH!!! Some of us can accept when our favorite artists evolve. Not everything is gonna be better but I support artists taking chances. There's no turning the clock back. People can like whatever music they fucking well want to but if you've all really figured out the big secret of Dre being finished, why not move on already and let the people who are still fans have it?
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 05, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
it's not over but Dre probably will never see tha days of deathrow/2001 anymore that's forshure.  Eminem ain't even tha same Marshall anymore, and will never be, even if he's the 1st white rapper to have supreme longevity in Hip Hop.  DRE what Jermaine Dupri is to Hip Hop right now, a legendary producer that's still hot but ain't damn near what he used to be.  time takes it's toll on EVERYBODY, no matter who u r Dr. Dre (if ur readin).
Most of us figured these things out years ago. I was never expecting another 2001 or Death Row era sound from Dre. I'm not expecting another Marshall Mathers LP from Eminem. Game is never gonna do another Documentary. Cube will never sound like he did on "Death Certificate" or "Predator" again. The word I'm looking for here is... DUH!!! Some of us can accept when our favorite artists evolve. Not everything is gonna be better but I support artists taking chances. There's no turning the clock back. People can like whatever music they fucking well want to but if you've all really figured out the big secret of Dre being finished, why not move on already and let the people who are still fans have it?


going back to that sound wasn't what i was talking about.  i meant in terms of reigning with the supreme dynasty all over again.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on May 05, 2010, 09:23:25 PM
going back to that sound wasn't what i was talking about.  i meant in terms of reigning with the supreme dynasty all over again.
Music has changed so much, it's hard to talk in comparative terms anymore. I'll wait and see on that one. I could easily see Detox doing 1 million first week.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
going back to that sound wasn't what i was talking about.  i meant in terms of reigning with the supreme dynasty all over again.
Music has changed so much, it's hard to talk in comparative terms anymore. I'll wait and see on that one. I could easily see Detox doing 1 million first week.


maybe so but Aftermath won't be them niggas anymore.  watch BrickSquad start to take over and all of the new niggas coming out (THANK GOD).  I love and respect ALL of my OG's in the game but it's time to move on baby.  I grew up listening to this shit and frankly i'm gettin a lil tired of it and I want that new.  As long as the new is GOOD (and talented) i'm good.  I'm not sittin around here gassed up over a new Ice Cube album I can tell u that (especially since it's another "I ____ WestCoast" album and type of music and I damn near know all of the lyrics to half of that man's catalog lol.  Cube still gets my respect until I'm floatin' in the winds but son got outta his prime about a decade or so ago.  All them old niggaz is just not that tight anymore. Only few of em like Lynch (for the most part) have gotten better with time.
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Post by: Jaydc on May 06, 2010, 08:21:39 PM
Your saying you want the new to be good and talented and in the same sentence say its brick squad taking over hahahahhahahahah,yeah because gucci mane and waka flocka flame are talented.Your a walking fail cornball.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Your saying you want the new to be good and talented and in the same sentence say its brick squad taking over hahahahhahahahah,yeah because gucci mane and waka flocka flame are talented.Your a walking fail cornball.


actually ALL of them niggaz is tight, except the female in the click.  You just wouldn't know bcuz u live on a high horse that has RadioTube! spray painted on the side.
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Post by: Jaydc on May 06, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
Anybody who thinks wacka flocka flame is tight has no business talking about hip hop.How old are you seriously?You cant be older then 13.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on May 06, 2010, 09:35:57 PM
maybe so but Aftermath won't be them niggas anymore.
But it's always been an influx of new and younger talent around. Dre and them were never the only show in town so to assume they would be now is pointlessly naive. As agravated as people are waiting for Detox, everyone still gives a shit, no matter how much they swear they don't. I'm not getting all amped up on expectations. I'm on the wait and see bus.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 07, 2010, 06:40:54 AM
maybe so but Aftermath won't be them niggas anymore.
But it's always been an influx of new and younger talent around. Dre and them were never the only show in town so to assume they would be now is pointlessly naive. As agravated as people are waiting for Detox, everyone still gives a shit, no matter how much they swear they don't. I'm not getting all amped up on expectations. I'm on the wait and see bus.


young man u really dont have a clue do u.  ur on the short bus actually, i agreed with all of that already.  kinda looks like ur venting 2 an imaginary angry fan.  i'm not tha 1.

but actually if Dre don't sign anybody new then yes, The aftermath of The Aftermath of Detox will be all downhill for the company.  u can believe it.  Notice I'm talking about JUST Aftermath, that wasn't about Hip Hop in general.  that "influx" ur talking about is just plain common sense.   :-X


now go head and act like i don't get it or get what you're talking about and twist my words up, it's ok i'm used to it.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2010, 01:55:02 PM
lol @ someone still in high school calling someone "young man"
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Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on May 07, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Your saying you want the new to be good and talented and in the same sentence say its brick squad taking over hahahahhahahahah,yeah because gucci mane and waka flocka flame are talented.Your a walking fail cornball.


actually ALL of them niggaz is tight, except the female in the click.  You just wouldn't know bcuz u live on a high horse that has RadioTube! spray painted on the side.
waka handled his beef with method man perfectly and i respect him for that,but you saying that equal is tight on the mic? and bricc squad is tight? do they have a strong hold on some street shit in the south and are more people bump'n it out west yes,but the best? hell nah yell
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 07, 2010, 03:30:48 PM
Your saying you want the new to be good and talented and in the same sentence say its brick squad taking over hahahahhahahahah,yeah because gucci mane and waka flocka flame are talented.Your a walking fail cornball.


actually ALL of them niggaz is tight, except the female in the click.  You just wouldn't know bcuz u live on a high horse that has RadioTube! spray painted on the side.
waka handled his beef with method man perfectly and i respect him for that,but you saying that equal is tight on the mic? and bricc squad is tight? do they have a strong hold on some street shit in the south and are more people bump'n it out west yes,but the best? hell nah yell


who said they were THE BEST?  y'all be gettin me fucked up sometimes I swear lol.  Them BrickSquad just b comin' with that kush.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on May 07, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
young man u really dont have a clue do u.  ur on the short bus actually, i agreed with all of that already.  
Well, I don't have a clue where the hostility came from but props on turning a phrase.

kinda looks like ur venting 2 an imaginary angry fan.  i'm not tha 1.
Where in that comment you just quoted do I appear to be "venting" and judging by the fact that I use words like "people", "everyone", and "they", wouldn't it be safe to assume that I'm speaking in general terms and not just exclusively to you?

but actually if Dre don't sign anybody new then yes, The aftermath of The Aftermath of Detox will be all downhill for the company.  u can believe it.  Notice I'm talking about JUST Aftermath, that wasn't about Hip Hop in general.  that "influx" ur talking about is just plain common sense.  
Well, the point I was getting at was that Dre/Aftermath wasn't the young new artist-led establishment ten years ago with "2001" so why should we expect them to be now? They had one new artist in Eminem who was really in the spotlight like that. His role was that of the veteran producer with an established family tree of artists from his region. Until somebody matches him on that, he's in a spot all his own.

I'll touch more on this later if you'd like but right now, I got places to be....