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Title: Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 08, 2002, 03:58:48 PM
step in here and tell me your reasons
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 08, 2002, 08:30:24 PM
*steps in for cwalker* cuz my muthafucking gas is expensive,  i want  cheap gas
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: CWalker187 on December 09, 2002, 10:44:38 AM
Why should America attack Iraq? Because we can, so.....


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Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 09, 2002, 03:17:01 PM
ok...you wanna play those games....


*sits back and waits for Big Homie Osama to let you know Muslims can fight back*









how u luv that statement c walker? why dont we all get ignorant up in this mutha!!!!

*gets ignorant in this mutha*
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 09, 2002, 03:17:55 PM
on a serious note, the fact that cat got ya tongue re: iraq proves that americas govt is demonic and enjoys the blood of muslims
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 03:40:08 PM
One thing I was wondering...Was it proved that Saddam paid the families of the suicide bombers something like $20,000 after they did it?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 09, 2002, 03:49:55 PM
ok...you wanna play those games....


*sits back and waits for Big Homie Osama to let you know Muslims can fight back*









how u luv that statement c walker? why dont we all get ignorant up in this mutha!!!!

*gets ignorant in this mutha*

on a serious note, the fact that cat got ya tongue re: iraq proves that americas govt is demonic and enjoys the blood of muslims

True colors come out!  :o
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 09, 2002, 05:01:13 PM
One thing I was wondering...Was it proved that Saddam paid the families of the suicide bombers something like $20,000 after they did it?

Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 09, 2002, 05:43:58 PM

Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I love how you try and change the subject when  something you can't possibly defend comes into the converstaion.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 06:32:07 PM
Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I'm asking a question that I don't know the answer to.  Don't answer my question with a question you jackass.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 09, 2002, 07:12:44 PM
Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I'm asking a question that I don't know the answer to.  Don't answer my question with a question you jackass.

Another debate turns personal.  If I was a moderator I'd erase your name-calling and we would treat eachother with more respect.  Wait, I am a moderator.  But being a moderator at this forum doesn't mean anything.  Because I got de-modded the last time I tried to moderate.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Xearo on December 09, 2002, 07:23:12 PM
Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I'm asking a question that I don't know the answer to.  Don't answer my question with a question you jackass.

Another debate turns personal.  If I was a moderator I'd erase your name-calling and we would treat eachother with more respect.  Wait, I am a moderator.  But being a moderator at this forum doesn't mean anything.  Because I got de-modded the last time I tried to moderate.

Can't we all just get along like normal human beings?  LOL
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Xearo on December 09, 2002, 07:27:56 PM
OK...I'm gonna drop my 2 cents in here...disagree or agree with me...I care not...

As of RIGHT NOW...(December 9th), I don't think the US should attack Iraq.  They sent their UN Weapons report like they said they would...and they must have put alot of effort into it as well, considering it was 12,000 pages long...

A few monthes ago, I think the US should have attacked Iraq.  They refused to let weapons inspectors in, and frankly, were assholes while doing so...

Sadaam is a tricky little sumbitch...but I care less about him.  The main person I want dead is Osama.  Not because he is a muslim, but because he is part of the al-Quida(IDK how it's spelled) which is a terrorist group on America.  Some people love Osama, and some people hate him(like me), but you know what they say...ONE MAN'S TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MAN'S FREEDOM FIGHTER...
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 08:02:12 PM
Another debate turns personal.  If I was a moderator I'd erase your name-calling and we would treat eachother with more respect.  Wait, I am a moderator.  But being a moderator at this forum doesn't mean anything.  Because I got de-modded the last time I tried to moderate.

There is no debate.  If you don't know the answer don't respond by being a smartass.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 09, 2002, 08:35:08 PM
Another debate turns personal.  If I was a moderator I'd erase your name-calling and we would treat eachother with more respect.  Wait, I am a moderator.  But being a moderator at this forum doesn't mean anything.  Because I got de-modded the last time I tried to moderate.



There is no debate.  If you don't know the answer don't respond by being a smartass.

I did answer your question.  If Sadaam was paying so-called terrorists it was most likely done in response to Zionism.  So I am more concerned with Ariel Sharon and his Zionist cohorts.

Maybe if you had more knowledge you wouldn't be reduced to attacking me personaly.  Attack my ideas, that's fine, but let's keep this respectable.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 09, 2002, 09:01:09 PM

Maybe if you had more knowledge you wouldn't be reduced to attacking me personaly.  Attack my ideas, that's fine, but let's keep this respectable.


Maybe you should take some of your own advice?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 09:30:06 PM
Here's my question:
One thing I was wondering...Was it proved that Saddam paid the families of the suicide bombers something like $20,000 after they did it?

Here's your answer:
Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I was just asking if that report about him paying the families of the suicide bombers was true and confirmed because I wasn't sure if it was.  Now I was looking for a response like "No (with maybe some explaination/thoughts)" or "Yes (with maybe some explaination/thoughts).  I'm not sure how you asking me why I don't wonder about Sharon being a zionist answers my above question.

Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 09, 2002, 09:47:35 PM
Here's my question:
One thing I was wondering...Was it proved that Saddam paid the families of the suicide bombers something like $20,000 after they did it?

Here's your answer:
Why don't you spend this much time wondering if Sharon is a zionist?

I was just asking if that report about him paying the families of the suicide bombers was true and confirmed because I wasn't sure if it was.  Now I was looking for a response like "No (with maybe some explaination/thoughts)" or "Yes (with maybe some explaination/thoughts).  I'm not sure how you asking me why I don't wonder about Sharon being a zionist answers my above question.



I guess it's higher level thinking.  If you sincearly wished for a more clear response from me you would of simply asked, instead you were reduced to name-calling.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 09:49:55 PM
I guess it's higher level thinking.  If you sincearly wished for a more clear response from me you would of simply asked, instead you were reduced to name-calling.

I guess I'll take that as you don't know the answer.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 09, 2002, 09:53:43 PM
C2Knuckles

Yes it's been confirmed...

Check the links for info
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/03/25/1017004766310.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html


Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 09, 2002, 10:07:24 PM
Thank you.  That's a good response.

Now as I see it, Saddam is encouraging terrorism obviously if he's is providing financial support for the families of people who strap explosives to their bodies and set them off in public areas in an attempt to murder civilians.  It's not obvious I guess if you think that what these people are doing are not terrorist acts.

Does anyone believe the reports from the links on the last post are false?
Does anyone not believe Saddam is funding terrorists?
Does anyone support Saddam doing this?  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Jay ay Beee on December 10, 2002, 05:06:42 AM
So Sadaam gave their families money AFTER it happened?

So how did he fund terrorism?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on December 10, 2002, 05:43:31 AM
I support him doing it. Because those families lives will be made hell otherwise. I dont agree with suicide bombers, but....
if it was back when britain controlled ireland, i wouldve been a suicide bomber if it might have brought our freedom.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 10, 2002, 07:26:33 AM
So Sadaam gave their families money AFTER it happened?
So how did he fund terrorism?

The promise of the money encourages it.  If families of previous suicide bombers received money for the bomber's actions, the bomber might think that his/her family would be taken care of if he/she performs the duty.

I support him doing it. Because those families lives will be made hell otherwise. I dont agree with suicide bombers, but....
if it was back when britain controlled ireland, i wouldve been a suicide bomber if it might have brought our freedom.

So you would take your own life in an attempt to kill innocent civilians?  How might that bring you freedom?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on December 10, 2002, 08:39:39 AM
I'm not saying its right, or that it would bring freedom, but IF it did i might be willing to do it. Im just looking at it in a different mind frame. Those who gave their lives for ireland are still heroes here, and if we were oppressed again i would be in the mind state of fuck it. killing civilians is fucked up and i know ppl who know pll who have died and its terrible but i can understand the terrorists stance. we need to remove there reasons
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 10, 2002, 11:59:44 AM
once again ITW is on point and it doesnt mean SHIT that Hussein gives money to HAMAS what does that have to do with the US?...

*remembers that jews control america*

oh shit . now i got it!
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 10, 2002, 12:25:12 PM
once again ITW is on point and it doesnt mean SHIT that Hussein gives money to HAMAS what does that have to do with the US?...

*remembers that jews control america*

oh shit . now i got it!

We are at war with terrorism.
Saddam Supports terrorism by giving money to Hamas.

Is it hard to understand?
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 10, 2002, 12:50:06 PM
once again ITW is on point and it doesnt mean SHIT that Hussein gives money to HAMAS what does that have to do with the US?...

*remembers that jews control america*

oh shit . now i got it!



We are at war with terrorism.
Saddam Supports terrorism by giving money to Hamas.

Is it hard to understand?


First of all, we aren't at war with terrorism.  We are at war to expand zionist Isreal and for oil and power in the middle east.  If we truly wanted to eliminate terrorism all we would have to do is relinquish our unequivicol support for Isreal.


Secondly, major props and respects to Irish Thug Wannabe for having empathy for oppressed people and trying to understand their position.  

Lastly, even if Sadaam has weapons of mass destruction and paid money to terrorist families, we STILL shouldn't go to war with him.  Why?  Because through economic sanctions, the Gulf War, and bombing since the Gulf War we've already killed thousands more of his civilians anyway.  If anybody should be mad, it's him.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 10, 2002, 01:07:55 PM
First of all, we aren't at war with terrorism.  We are at war to expand zionist Isreal and for oil and power in the middle east.  If we truly wanted to eliminate terrorism all we would have to do is relinquish our unequivicol support for Isreal.
You really have a twisted little mind. This is REAL LIFE. This is not an episode of the X Files. There aren't Zionist agents trying to get to you.
And your simply moronic statement about Relunquishing our support for Isreal, I don't even know where to begin. If we wanted to "expand zionist Isreal" why would Our president be pushing for Palestinian statehood? Ariel Sharon supports it as well...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/12/05/mideast/index.html

Lastly, even if Sadaam has weapons of mass destruction and paid money to terrorist families, we STILL shouldn't go to war with him.  Why?  Because through economic sanctions, the Gulf War, and bombing since the Gulf War we've already killed thousands more of his civilians anyway.  If anybody should be mad, it's him.
This is the most flawed reasoning I've seen out of you in a long while.
What should we do? Just let him keep fanning the flames? Just let him do whatever he wants? We let that happen in 1990... Look what saddam did.

Here are some of his crimes aginst muslims:
"The Government consistently politicizes and interferes with religious pilgrimages, both of Iraqi Muslims who wish to make the Hajj to Mecca and Medina and of Iraqi and non-Iraqi Muslim pilgrims who travel to holy sites within the country. For example, in 1998 the UN Sanctions Committee offered to disburse vouchers for travel and expenses to pilgrims making the Hajj; however, the Government rejected this offer. In 1999 the Sanctions Committee offered to disburse funds to cover Hajj-related expenses via a neutral third party; the Government again rejected the offer. Following the December 1999 passage of UN Security Council Resolution 1284, the Sanctions Committee again sought to devise a protocol to facilitate the payment for individuals making the journey. The Sanctions Committee proposed to issue $250 in cash and $1,750 in travelers checks to each individual pilgrim to be distributed at the U.N. office in Baghdad in the presence of both U.N. and Iraqi officials. The Government again declined and, consequently, no Iraqi pilgrims were able to take advantage of the available funds or, in 2000, of the permitted flights. The Government continued to insist that these funds would be accepted only if they were paid in cash to the government-controlled central bank, not to the Hajj pilgrims."
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 10, 2002, 01:08:42 PM
More than 95 percent of the population of Iraq are Muslim. The (predominantly Arab) Shi'a Muslims constitute a 60 to 65 percent majority:

The Iraqi government has for decades conducted a brutal campaign of murder, summary execution, and protracted arbitrary arrest against the religious leaders and followers of the majority Shi'a Muslim population. Despite nominal legal protection of religious equality, the Government has repressed severely the Shi'a clergy and those who follow the Shi'a faith.

Forces from the Mukhabarat, General Security (Amn Al-Amm), the Military Bureau, Saddam's Commandos (Fedayeen Saddam), and the Ba'th Party have killed senior Shi'a clerics, desecrated Shi'a mosques and holy sites, and interfered with Shi'a religious education. Security agents reportedly are stationed at all the major Shi'a mosques and shrines, where they search, harass, and arbitrarily arrest worshipers.

The following government restrictions on religious rights remained in effect during 2001: restrictions and outright bans on communal Friday prayer by Shi'a Muslims; restrictions on the loaning of books by Shi'a mosque libraries; a ban on the broadcast of Shi'a programs on government-controlled radio or television; a ban on the publication of Shi'a books, including prayer books and guides; a ban on funeral processions other than those organized by the Government; a ban on other Shi'a funeral observances such as gatherings for Koran reading; and the prohibition of certain processions and public meetings that commemorate Shi'a holy days. Shi'a groups report that they captured documents from the security services during the 1991 uprising that listed thousands of forbidden Shi'a religious writings.

In June 1999, several Shi'a opposition groups reported that the Government instituted a program in the predominantly Shi'a districts of Baghdad that used food ration cards to restrict where individuals could pray. The ration cards, part of the UN oil-for-food program, reportedly are checked when the bearer enters a mosque and are printed with a notice of severe penalties for those who attempt to pray at an unauthorized location.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 10, 2002, 08:06:38 PM
if this was still the american revolution I WOULD NOT BE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN BRITAIN to "buy my freedom"......i'd join the military and fight the oppossition's military but i wouldn't go into london square straped with explosives and kill innocent brit eating fish and chips.




some of you need to reevaluate your morals
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 10, 2002, 08:07:28 PM
once again ITW is on point and it doesnt mean SHIT that Hussein gives money to HAMAS what does that have to do with the US?...

*remembers that jews control america*

oh shit . now i got it!


how would you feel if the soldiers who ran those lil girls over in korea , were awarded a medal of honor and their families recieved money for the "stress they had to go through from korean anti america rallies" from britain?


i think YOU and infinate especially would be a little bit appauled


i'm appauled that suicide bombing the innocent is awarded
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 10, 2002, 09:40:21 PM
if this was still the american revolution I WOULD NOT BE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN BRITAIN to "buy my freedom"......i'd join the military and fight the oppossition's military but i wouldn't go into london square straped with explosives and kill innocent brit eating fish and chips.

i'm appauled that suicide bombing the innocent is awarded


^  I'm with those two statements. ^
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 11, 2002, 02:25:36 AM
once again ITW is on point and it doesnt mean SHIT that Hussein gives money to HAMAS what does that have to do with the US?...

*remembers that jews control america*

oh shit . now i got it!


how would you feel if the soldiers who ran those lil girls over in korea , were awarded a medal of honor and their families recieved money for the "stress they had to go through from korean anti america rallies" from britain?


i think YOU and infinate especially would be a little bit appauled


i'm appauled that suicide bombing the innocent is awarded

Why aren't you appauled when Ariel Sharon storms the Al Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalam (illegally occupied territory) with a throng of troops and kills Muslims while they are observing Jumma prayer?  

^^^That's what started the current infintada.  But you want to talk about the affect and never the cause.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on December 11, 2002, 05:38:37 AM
It may have been possible for you to join the american army to fight the british, but in the irish case, the british army was the irish army....our only army was the IRA which is a terrorist organisation...so that would have been my only choice, and I doubt the palestinians have an army that can go blow to blow with the israeli army. again, i dont agree or "reward" people for killing innocents but you have to at least say you know where theyre coming from??
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2002, 11:40:01 AM
yo detective englewood...
great facts..but i already know what u tellin me

so check it this is what englewood is sayin

Saddam Hussein is funding HAMAS, so since America is fighting a war on terrorism they have a right to attack Iraq.

When did America declare war on terrorism not related to the US? i thought yall were going after Bin Laden? Now its Hamas?
so now America is going to war with ANY terrorist group irregardless of whether they are anti american or not? does anybody see something wrong with this? this is disgusting..another attempt by america to impose themselves on the world

How is the truth being deprived from you guys? man you people are brainwashed///this isnt even funny anymore

can you guys not see that this entire thing is being driven by ISRAEL?
and englewood, how old are u? obviously bush is gonna say we suport a palestinian state, what? hes gonna admit jews run his administration?
LOL.....bush supports a state for palestinians then allows Israeli military to bombard their land and calls for Arafats removal??

i mean....america is trying to justify going into other parts of the world and solve Israels problems for them

first Iraq
then Iran
then Libya
Syria
Saudi
HAMAS, islamic jihad etc

until the entire middle east becomes israels backyard

sheep
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2002, 11:42:26 AM
But you want to talk about the affect and never the cause.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2002, 09:03:42 PM
if you ask me the affect is just as important as the cause.....if your 'freedome fighters' wanted to fight their opressors , they're sure going about it the wrong way. don't YOU see. every time they blow themselves up in Isreal it fuels  Israel to attack even more....don't you see that by fucking with the US your just signing a death certificate? so if you want "freedom from your opressors"  get some better judegment
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2002, 09:48:49 PM
i understand where u coming from jake but understand this

will america change its position vis a vis the middle east?
nope
will israel grant the palestinians their country?
nope

never happen, never will

so what do u expect these people to do about it? they have no other option, no future, no hope,
that all equates to NO LIFE

thats it right there
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2002, 10:08:00 PM


so what do u expect these people to do about it? they have no other option, no future, no hope,
that all equates to NO LIFE

thats it right there

i disagree, if they wanted to make a statement towards us and theres so much anti americanism and they're SO dedicated to freedom fighting i'd organize an international protest and central it somwhere .....just keep on doing it til it wins over people, you can't win over people if your killing them
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 11, 2002, 10:25:01 PM


so what do u expect these people to do about it? they have no other option, no future, no hope,
that all equates to NO LIFE

thats it right there

i disagree, if they wanted to make a statement towards us and theres so much anti americanism and they're SO dedicated to freedom fighting i'd organize an international protest and central it somwhere .....just keep on doing it til it wins over people, you can't win over people if your killing them

Yep...

Peacefull protest wins over minds much better than violence.

Look at India and Ghandi.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2002, 11:26:09 PM
again u make a good point, both of u, but is what you;re suggesting realistic?

keep in mind...that holding a protest might be kinda hard when you're dirt poor, your family members are dying, u are uneducated, unemployed etc

plus, the majority of the muslim countries are headed by american puppets and protests are not usually accepted

ex. egypt, jordan
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Woodrow on December 11, 2002, 11:30:42 PM
again u make a good point, both of u, but is what you;re suggesting realistic?

keep in mind...that holding a protest might be kinda hard when you're dirt poor, your family members are dying, u are uneducated, unemployed etc

plus, the majority of the muslim countries are headed by american puppets and protests are not usually accepted

ex. egypt, jordan

It happened in India, why not elsewhere?

Appeal to our morals and I'm willing to bet the Untied states would respond much differently. When you use violence, it hurts the cause you are fighting for IMO.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2002, 11:34:25 PM
I agree with you to a degree...for example...i think suicide bombings in Israel sooooo play into Sharons hands..
but i just dont think its that easy
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 12, 2002, 03:45:43 AM
Good arguments.  I applaud Jake, Tech, and Englewood.  If we can argue over idea's and not get personal this board can benefit all people!!

Let me throw some ideas into the fold as well.

Palestine protests all the time.  Both internally and internationally.  There were world marches in Washington, SanFransisco, China, Palestine, all over the world earlier this year.  They can't do it everyday.  But believe me they have been protesting.  They tried non-violence but they can't win, they are suppressed by the American media.  

I was at one of the many marches.  It drew 80,000 people in Sanfransisco and millions more all over the world.   It was on Oct. 26th 2002.  But what happened was the mass media didn't cover it.  The key issue's were Palestine and the War in Iraq.  But it wasn't covered properly.  But I was there. I saw what was really happening with my own eyes.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on December 12, 2002, 05:29:22 AM
Good points everyone. I believe peaceful protest should come before violence any day. However there are many setbacks. Firstly, an awful lot of people are too poverty stricken to make there way to a "central" protest spot. Many governments are renowned for silencing protesters. Note: the students in iran. Who's to say other governments would not stop these protests as they may affect trade relatinons with the states. I think what we are seeing now is the last stand. Think of when you are arguing with someone who has more than you and they are slightly condescending. You try to appeal to their morals but they arent listening. You start to get angry,  but they just smile at you, and soon you fly into a rage and hit this big guy. (911). He smacks u back and knocks you out.(america bombs afghanistan). Now he is in a rage because someone had the nerve to hit him, and he goes looking for your friends to beat the shit outta them and steal their lunch money (oil). You cant stand up to this big bully so u go into a mindstate where you would do anything to stop him. Even kill him.

This is where it is at at the moment...both sides are too incensed to stop. Has anyone suggested that al queda leaders and us leaders sit down and discuss a possible solution.

When the us comes to ireland it appeals for either side not to retaliate and escalate the violence. how about they take some of their own medicine and save the rest of us from a world war
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 12, 2002, 12:54:13 PM
Good points everyone. I believe peaceful protest should come before violence any day. However there are many setbacks. Firstly, an awful lot of people are too poverty stricken to make there way to a "central" protest spot. Many governments are renowned for silencing protesters. Note: the students in iran. Who's to say other governments would not stop these protests as they may affect trade relatinons with the states. I think what we are seeing now is the last stand. Think of when you are arguing with someone who has more than you and they are slightly condescending. You try to appeal to their morals but they arent listening. You start to get angry,  but they just smile at you, and soon you fly into a rage and hit this big guy. (911). He smacks u back and knocks you out.(america bombs afghanistan). Now he is in a rage because someone had the nerve to hit him, and he goes looking for your friends to beat the shit outta them and steal their lunch money (oil). You cant stand up to this big bully so u go into a mindstate where you would do anything to stop him. Even kill him.

This is where it is at at the moment...both sides are too incensed to stop. Has anyone suggested that al queda leaders and us leaders sit down and discuss a possible solution.

When the us comes to ireland it appeals for either side not to retaliate and escalate the violence. how about they take some of their own medicine and save the rest of us from a world war

TRAIN OF THOUGHT POST OF THE YEAR
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 13, 2002, 03:40:21 AM
Good points everyone. I believe peaceful protest should come before violence any day. However there are many setbacks. Firstly, an awful lot of people are too poverty stricken to make there way to a "central" protest spot. Many governments are renowned for silencing protesters. Note: the students in iran. Who's to say other governments would not stop these protests as they may affect trade relatinons with the states. I think what we are seeing now is the last stand. Think of when you are arguing with someone who has more than you and they are slightly condescending. You try to appeal to their morals but they arent listening. You start to get angry,  but they just smile at you, and soon you fly into a rage and hit this big guy. (911). He smacks u back and knocks you out.(america bombs afghanistan). Now he is in a rage because someone had the nerve to hit him, and he goes looking for your friends to beat the shit outta them and steal their lunch money (oil). You cant stand up to this big bully so u go into a mindstate where you would do anything to stop him. Even kill him.

This is where it is at at the moment...both sides are too incensed to stop. Has anyone suggested that al queda leaders and us leaders sit down and discuss a possible solution.

When the us comes to ireland it appeals for either side not to retaliate and escalate the violence. how about they take some of their own medicine and save the rest of us from a world war

TRAIN OF THOUGHT POST OF THE YEAR

My thoughts exactly.  Train of Thoughts Post of The Year.  We Should Give Out Awards Each Month.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Trauma-san on December 13, 2002, 03:45:56 AM
Hmm, I may have just seen nutriding taken to a whole new level.  I dunno though.

anyways, so this post won't be deleted, I'll critique it.  


You mentioned in a lot of countries that protest is shut down by the government.  NOT IN AFGANISTAN, LOL.  I mean, if they want to protest the american government, why can't they just protest?  They don't want to protest, they want to kill.  You say they can't gather in one central location to protest.  Well; they have a club, LOL "Al Queada" why aren't they a group that protests american policy, instead of a group that pulls bitch moves on america?  Because they are full of hatred, that's why.  It's not a last step, it's just ignorance on their part.  They honestly think, becuase a bad man told them so, that if they kill americans, that they will receive bliss in heaven.  This is not an intelligent way to protest american policy, all it will do is just incite more policies they won't agree with.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Jay ay Beee on December 13, 2002, 08:42:05 AM
if this was still the american revolution I WOULD NOT BE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN BRITAIN to "buy my freedom"......i'd join the military and fight the oppossition's military but i wouldn't go into london square straped with explosives and kill innocent brit eating fish and chips.




some of you need to reevaluate your morals



BIG DIFFERENCE EINSTEIN

American Revolution was a straight out war USA vs Britain, so you could join the army of the US and fight for your country.

Britain came into Ireland and crushed them, starved them, kicked them out of their homes with major cruelty.  There was no 'war' lol.  Britain made Ireland a part of itself.  So ITW could not have joined the Irish army because there wasn't one fighting a formal battle.  SO it's not that simple.  And as my family is from Ireland, Ireland, is if you like, my motherland, if I had been living in Ireland at that time you best believe I would be using what you percieve to be 'terrorism' to fight for MY country.

Now stick that in your fucking pipe
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on December 13, 2002, 02:04:48 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

COULDN'T HAVE PUT IT BETTER

"The wise only speak about what they know"
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 13, 2002, 06:01:03 PM
if this was still the american revolution I WOULD NOT BE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN BRITAIN to "buy my freedom"......i'd join the military and fight the oppossition's military but i wouldn't go into london square straped with explosives and kill innocent brit eating fish and chips.




some of you need to reevaluate your morals



BIG DIFFERENCE EINSTEIN

American Revolution was a straight out war USA vs Britain, so you could join the army of the US and fight for your country.

Britain came into Ireland and crushed them, starved them, kicked them out of their homes with major cruelty.  There was no 'war' lol.  Britain made Ireland a part of itself.  So ITW could not have joined the Irish army because there wasn't one fighting a formal battle.  SO it's not that simple.  And as my family is from Ireland, Ireland, is if you like, my motherland, if I had been living in Ireland at that time you best believe I would be using what you percieve to be 'terrorism' to fight for MY country.

Now stick that in your fucking pipe

Good post.
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 13, 2002, 11:06:50 PM
if this was still the american revolution I WOULD NOT BE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN BRITAIN to "buy my freedom"......i'd join the military and fight the oppossition's military but i wouldn't go into london square straped with explosives and kill innocent brit eating fish and chips.




some of you need to reevaluate your morals



BIG DIFFERENCE EINSTEIN

American Revolution was a straight out war USA vs Britain, so you could join the army of the US and fight for your country.

Britain came into Ireland and crushed them, starved them, kicked them out of their homes with major cruelty.  There was no 'war' lol.  Britain made Ireland a part of itself.  So ITW could not have joined the Irish army because there wasn't one fighting a formal battle.  SO it's not that simple.  And as my family is from Ireland, Ireland, is if you like, my motherland, if I had been living in Ireland at that time you best believe I would be using what you percieve to be 'terrorism' to fight for MY country.

Now stick that in your fucking pipe


so you'd purposly kill the innocent?

if yes....fuck that , kill someone who wants to die for their country, not some fool who probably doesn't know what's going on or could careless!

if no, i'd like to know who'd you'd target? IMO if you have to resort to violence , attack the military, that's why you NEVER or HARDLY ever hear anyone in the US or the US media get pissed off about the pentagon getting hit cuz it was "fair game"....we're mostly pissed becuase of the the twin towers becuase innocent and oblivious people were killed PURPOSELY.

Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Trauma-san on December 13, 2002, 11:08:40 PM
Exactly.  Yall try to bring twisted explanations to Jake, but in reality, there is no right way to defend somethign wrong.  They didn't attack the military, becuase they're some coward ass punks who wanted to kill children and women, like the bitches that they were.  I say were because we've wiped most of them off the planet by now.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Don Jacob on December 13, 2002, 11:14:59 PM
thank you trauma


and jay i been posting on this board for like 2 years now and you're the rudest person i've met on here, either talk to me with respect and like a man or don't bother talking to me at all
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 13, 2002, 11:25:28 PM
I say were because we've wiped most of them off the planet by now.  

incorrect
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Trauma-san on December 13, 2002, 11:36:40 PM
^^ Oh, LOL.  My bad, you got some information we don't? LOL

Good thing we got those nukes, in case things get out of hand, we can turn themiddle east into a glass factory, lol.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 14, 2002, 12:11:25 AM
yo know what, i was just gonna explain what i had said earlier re: terrorists...but judging from the garbage youre spewing these days trauma ....u aint worth it
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Trauma-san on December 14, 2002, 12:13:35 AM
^^ LOL.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 14, 2002, 12:26:01 AM
on a side note....

you claim i make immature jokes that no one laughs at, yet alot of people here think im funny, youre on your own partner

you make a stupid joke yourself like in this thread, and not one person says youre funny, matter of fact people think youre an idiot

Thats the difference
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: Trauma-san on December 14, 2002, 12:27:12 AM
LOL.  
Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 14, 2002, 12:31:13 AM
Locked....a thread exclusively made for C Walker is ruined by internal bickering

Title: Re:Yo C Walker...step in here and tell me why US should attack Iraq....
Post by: infinite59 on December 14, 2002, 12:40:07 AM
I have one last thing to say.  How can middleeastern cats Blade and DirtyDogg support a guy who makes a joke about nuking the middle east and turning it into a glass factory!