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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: GSmith on May 17, 2010, 12:47:12 AM
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Weird video
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3dA2ny1M434U3WDC
Guess this means no Em feature on Jay's album
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Its amazing how quickly rappers make themselves look like idiots on worldstar.
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Says the dude who gave diddy 3 minutes of talk time on his latest song...
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
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I have to say,Ive lost a ton of respect for Jay electronica as of late.Maybe it was a good thing he was so elusive from the media before he keeps coming off dumber and dumber.
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I have to say,Ive lost a ton of respect for Jay electronica as of late.Maybe it was a good thing he was so elusive from the media before he keeps coming off dumber and dumber.
For me, it's just like immortal technique. I'm a fan of his music and depending on his messages I either agree with it or I don't. For example, this shit is silly to me. Some of his recent twitter posts are silly shit to me.
I've never been a die hard fan or "you're either in or you're out" type of person. I always view it as "I like this but don't like this."
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Yeah,even If I dont agree with someones opinion I can respect it if its well thought out and we just have different views,but this shit is jus bizzare and silly,and jay is the one looking like a pawn.
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The stupidest part to me is these people rant about how they do it for the streets and how jimmy iovine is devil because basically he's not supporting certain artists.
Jimmy Iovine is not stopping you from funding an artist or creating your own label.
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That's what kills me about hip-hop is no matter how big they're egos are most of them are so fucking stupid.
That's why I like cats like 50 and Jay because they see the world far more realistically than most of these other MCs.
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That's why I like cats like 50 and Jay because they see the world far more realistically than most of these other MCs.
But didn't you know? Anyone who sells albums on a nationwide level in 2010 is part of some greater Satantic movement to conquer the planet through secret societies and what not.
And it's amusing how everybody is the Devil when the money isn't there anymore. People love these conspiracy ideas. Pharoah Monch nicer than Eminem? Maybe but when has that ever been the bottom line? You think fucking Hannah Montana sells however many million records because she's a better singer than everyone else? This isn't something new. The entertainment industry is about dollars through pretty packages. Now, that there is less money being thrown around for all the artists, everyone wants to grab the megaphone and being the speaking piece for a culture being robbed and raped by greedy corporate executives who have no love for the artform and are selling out values for a buck. I feel like people came late to class and want to scream louder because they found out the truth too late or something. Because whether it's Jimmy Iovine or Vince McMahon or Donald Trump, it's been the same for over 25 years. They've always been loyal to the dollar and nothing else. People are so fucking lost.
Bringing up shit like EPMD and N.W.A. going gold with no radio? Do we really think the music business (most importantly, hip-hop) is still in the same state in 2004-10? Come on!
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Whats even more weird is that he is about to tour with jimmy iovines artist (50), aligns himself with p diddy (another recent iovine signee), and every other month he uses eminem's radio station Shade 45 to promote himself
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I'm pretty sure this is old and from around the Benzino/Em beef. Someone released it now that Jay Electronica is getting some attention.
Why is it cool to say Jay-Z worships the devil but everyone gets mad when its Em?
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to align with benzino = epic fail.
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This is soooooooooo old, lmao.
Shit done changed since then.
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wow :o
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I'm pretty sure this is old and from around the Benzino/Em beef. Someone released it now that Jay Electronica is getting some attention.
Why is it cool to say Jay-Z worships the devil but everyone gets mad when its Em?
I lol at that ridiculous jay-z shit too.
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im still waiting to see rza respond to that one video....he talking about what it woulda been in person on some physical shit, and in the same breath saying he respect dude....yeah right
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im still waiting to see rza respond to that one video....he talking about what it woulda been in person on some physical shit, and in the same breath saying he respect dude....yeah right
what's wrong with that video? All he says is that they used to have a problem but they're cool now. I don't see how that is dissing RZA if it is true.
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the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
That's what it is, what do you think it is?
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the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
That's what it is, what do you think it is?
I don't disagree with the moon being a part of the earth, I just don't agree that some man crawled into the earth, placed a bomb in it, and blew it up. While I didn't add that to my original sentence that's part of their belief system.
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the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
That's what it is, what do you think it is?
I don't disagree with the moon being a part of the earth, I just don't agree that some man crawled into the earth, placed a bomb in it, and blew it up. While I didn't add that to my original sentence that's part of their belief system.
Ah - Now that shits crazy.
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#YouMustLearn Our Moon has been separated from us now approximately 66 Trillion years. If the scientists disagree, that's understandable.
=http://twitter.com/jayelectronica?max_id=14170644454&page=3&twttr=true
"And we also have a knowledge of the deportation of our planet and the moon which took place sixty-six trillion years ago by one of our own scientists...He'd taken high explosives drilled a tube into our moon, which it was called moon, and a lot of our ancient people today refer to the earth as moon, it is moon. And filled that tube full of high explosives, set it off and it split our planet in two.
"That part that you see up there tonight, that we call moon, it was blasted away from the original bed or pocket that we were in some 12,000 miles and it turned over, dropped all the water of that part on this part. That's why this part, today, it's surface is 3/4 covered under water because we have that water that once was on the moon...
"Now, a Black Scientist did that sixty-six trillion years ago. He was smart enough to try to destroy us by drilling a tube into our earth's, as we call it today, surface about 4,000 miles. He split the planet and this part dropped 36,000 miles from the original pocket and found a pocket and it started rotating. And we are the lucky people who were on this part that we didn't get destroyed with those who were once on the moon. The moon is part of our earth. The astronomers, today, they have learned that and they believe it."
('Messenger Elijah Muhammad Speaks in Baltimore in 1960,' transcription of an audio cassette, at http://muhammadspeaks.com)
They're just crazies who adopt scientific information for their benefit
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Lol damn people gotta stop convincing themselves of shit while on crack, no way an actual scientist would believe that shit, gotta be a crack head theory!
And this is just an L on Jay's behalf
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I agree with Jay 130%
Peace god.
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I have to say,Ive lost a ton of respect for Jay electronica as of late.Maybe it was a good thing he was so elusive from the media before he keeps coming off dumber and dumber.
Truth. I liked him way more before he started talking without beats behind him.
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i still think he's an ill mc,but he has been saying alot of stupid shit,time to get a publicist to monitor his interviews yell
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Destructive ass black scientists.....
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Does this guy hang out with Premier n Mos Def or something? Man some of these dudes are straight stupid and need to be banned from the media for their careers sakes! This guy doesnt even really have one yet!
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
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Jfive percenters are racists that think white people are devils
Well, that is true.
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
They are not
A) manipulating the masses
They are
A) selling a product to a group of people
Basically, this always boils down to race. People are mad that Eminem is being pushed by Interscope. Then they'll say it's manipulation of the masses and the devil is involved. They are mad that Eminem has able to connect to people in a certain fashion that, obviously, many other artist have not. You're just rascists that have an issue with white people.
It's not always about talent which should be obvious today. Hell, Just Blaze said to make it in the industry it's 40% talent, 60% people skills.
The reality is no one is stopping anyone from creating a label and trying to market any MC to the world. Just beacause Iovine has been successful with Eminem, it doesn't mean he's the devil.
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5%ers do know the deal in regards to the elite aka the devil.
I give Jay Elec a lot of props for saying what he said because it is the absolute truth and I guarantee you he is going to be blackballed because of it, you watch.
The truth hurts, and Jimmy Iovine is a globalist with an NWO agenda. He himself answers to globalists who have an agenda for a world government with them calling all the shots. It's sounds fucking ridiculous, but it's true.
Jimmy only pushes artists who propagate a message of negativity and dumbing down. And this isn't only Jimmy, this is pretty much for all of the major labels because they are indeed owned by elitists (often times Jews) who have an agenda.
Yall need to pay attention, it's right in front of you if you connect the dots. Peace
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Well it is skin color, Em is insanely marketable because he does have skill and he is a whiteboy. White people were/are the major buying consumer of hip hop.
They are def manipulating the masses through tv, radio, magazines, etc., totally conditioning how people think and talk and people have absolutely no idea.
Why do people think all of the cats that are introduced to the mainstream media in rap nowadays are damn near retarded? Because thats the way they want their fanbase to be, thats the way they want the average person to be.
It's WAY bigger than hip hop.
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
They are not
A) manipulating the masses
They are
A) selling a product to a group of people
Basically, this always boils down to race. People are mad that Eminem is being pushed by Interscope. Then they'll say it's manipulation of the masses and the devil is involved. They are mad that Eminem has able to connect to people in a certain fashion that, obviously, many other artist have not. You're just rascists that have an issue with white people.
It's not always about talent which should be obvious today. Hell, Just Blaze said to make it in the industry it's 40% talent, 60% people skills.
The reality is no one is stopping anyone from creating a label and trying to market any MC to the world. Just beacause Iovine has been successful with Eminem, it doesn't mean he's the devil.
You need to understand who owns the labels, who owns music industry, who owns the media in most forms, and what their stated goals are. Jimmy is a major player in their game.
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
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black people are more rasist then KKK
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black people are more rasist then KKK
^^^^now that's stupid,checc out history my equal,i swear the shit people say sometimes, now jimmy the jew is a coward who hides behind his power,and em sales more because of his color this is true,and he may not be better then monch or what not straight up lyricially,but what em can do is make a song that appeals to more people,hell even more blacc people listen to em more then monch, it's about making relatable music, jimmy don't care about hip hop culture he's all about business and he keeps his focus on that (i don't like it all but i get it), but alot of my brotha's and sistas in this music shit need to stop pump'n up shit we don't own, all the cars and all that bullshit,i say if we gonna keep being mostly consumers don't cry when they don't boost yo ass up no more yell
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Oh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
Jrome, you be on some other shit. Conspiracy conspiracy all I hear is conspiracy. I have never seen any one like you argue with clear as day facts and precisely laid out information that supports you're argument. The majority of it is conjecture and I'm doing it justice by calling conjecture. I'm open to learning. Provide me reading information, show me the information.
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black people are more rasist then KKK
Hahahahahaha.......good one.
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This interview came from this.......http://www.amazon.com/Benzino-Arch-Nemisis-DVD/dp/B0002JP3IS (http://www.amazon.com/Benzino-Arch-Nemisis-DVD/dp/B0002JP3IS)
It was released in 2004 ;)
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
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what abaut mj rip? is he devil? pac? big? fuck outa here dumb alien fuckas ;D
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
+1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Oh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
You do realize that would never happen right?
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lolol
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Oh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
You do realize that would never happen right?
Did you forget about clayton bigsby?
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Well firstly there is clearly a drive to dumb down audiences, the young and impressionable will imitate their favourite rappers and with the substance and lyrics being diluted then it will have a knock on effect.
Whether Jimmy Iovine is himself a globalist, I don't really know, as for Eminem being the devil's tool I find this viewpoint particularly ironic because it is Jay-Z who makes constant hand gestures, whose roc nation, symbolises the holy trinity, it is he who is seen making masonic handshakes with numerous celebs and yet Eminem is the devil?
I find that odd since it is the masons, and the world governance structures which run this world and yet these 5%ers go after Eminem hmm
It's almost like they have absolutely no problem with this idealology which they accuse the pawns of driving, the only difference is they want to be the ones running and dictating events, effectively usurp the elite to be the new elite.
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Oh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
You do realize that would never happen right?
Did you forget about clayton bigsby?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5s33oD86t0A/Stc3d12C2KI/AAAAAAAAAgU/mD58VKcx-W8/s400/Clayton-Bigsby.jpg)
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Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised
Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.
it's just another stupid religion
no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Oh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
Jrome, you be on some other shit. Conspiracy conspiracy all I hear is conspiracy. I have never seen any one like you argue with clear as day facts and precisely laid out information that supports you're argument. The majority of it is conjecture and I'm doing it justice by calling conjecture. I'm open to learning. Provide me reading information, show me the information.
that was just example. there are more then one white person who is five percenters . sorry but you example with the kkk is igorant & bullshit . KKK would never allow black man in it ever . so no they are not racist . this just shows your closeminded ignorance. sorry but they are right the white man is behind alot of evil shit. five percenters are just smarter then you
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yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah
5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.
and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
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yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah
5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.
and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
Agreed.
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
+1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
with too much power
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
+1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
with too much power
If he had so much power we would have seen detox come out years ago
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not really, cause Dre isn't totally stupid
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
+1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
with too much power
Too much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
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Too much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
But everyone needs someone to blame. And few people really do their research, they just need someone who sounds like they know what they are talking about yelling what they want to hear and it's all good. Thing is even Jimmy don't call every shot.
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Too much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
But everyone needs someone to blame. And few people really do their research, they just need someone who sounds like they know what they are talking about yelling what they want to hear and it's all good. Thing is even Jimmy don't call every shot.
For real bro, noone calls every shot, no matter who you are there'll be someone else who has some power over you. We on the same page here +1
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Thanks. Yeah, there's some basic 1-2-3 math that people are trying to work with that doesnn't work in real life situations. I think most people are used to either movies or news stories that center on just a handful of principal figures and they assume that's how life is. They think Interscope is just Jimmy Iovine sitting in a room and telling Dre "do this" or "don't do that" whenever it's time for Aftermath to put something out. Thing is with every guy in the spotlight, there's about thirty or forty people he's got running around making sure the ship stays afloat. Now when Vibe or Entertainment Tonight does an article or news piece, they aren't going to individually name off each person and explain their role. It just doesn't happen like that. Hell, how many people knew who the fuck Bruce Williams was before he wrote that book?
For the most part, there is just some basic ignorance going on with most people here. Jimmy Iovine is a powerful music executive so he must literally have control of everything fucking thing he touches. He could have made Bishop Lamont as big a star as Eminem but he didn't "push" him. He spends millions of dollars on acts that end up getting dropped but that's just because he chooses not to hit the "green light" and make them into superstars or because his secret society of gnomes from the planet Jupiter don't like the content and demand they be dropped.
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If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in.
Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
+1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
with too much power
Too much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
don't put me in a box like that.
Jimmy is a ruthless businessman, hence i said he has too much power.
i think the world would be a better place without people like him
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For the most part, there is just some basic ignorance going on with most people here. Jimmy Iovine is a powerful music executive so he must literally have control of everything fucking thing he touches. He could have made Bishop Lamont as big a star as Eminem but he didn't "push" him. He spends millions of dollars on acts that end up getting dropped but that's just because he chooses not to hit the "green light" and make them into superstars or because his secret society of gnomes from the planet Jupiter don't like the content and demand they be dropped.
I agree with what you're saying but I do think there's something to be said about the poor marketing/the lack of faith in new talent at Interscope.
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I agree with what you're saying but I do think there's something to be said about the poor marketing/the lack of faith in new talent at Interscope.
I think there's a problem with that in the entire industry. Record execs whose jobs depend on them generating money for their label generally aren't into investing in artists based on "good faith". Music is in the worst state it's ever been and it would be easy to point to a Jimmy Iovine or Clive Davis and say "Well, it's all their fault" but there's a bigger picture here.
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^off course, but Jimmy definitely has blood on his hands
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^off course, but Jimmy definitely has blood on his hands
In what sense?
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Thanks. Yeah, there's some basic 1-2-3 math that people are trying to work with that doesnn't work in real life situations. I think most people are used to either movies or news stories that center on just a handful of principal figures and they assume that's how life is. They think Interscope is just Jimmy Iovine sitting in a room and telling Dre "do this" or "don't do that" whenever it's time for Aftermath to put something out. Thing is with every guy in the spotlight, there's about thirty or forty people he's got running around making sure the ship stays afloat. Now when Vibe or Entertainment Tonight does an article or news piece, they aren't going to individually name off each person and explain their role. It just doesn't happen like that. Hell, how many people knew who the fuck Bruce Williams was before he wrote that book?
For the most part, there is just some basic ignorance going on with most people here. Jimmy Iovine is a powerful music executive so he must literally have control of everything fucking thing he touches. He could have made Bishop Lamont as big a star as Eminem but he didn't "push" him. He spends millions of dollars on acts that end up getting dropped but that's just because he chooses not to hit the "green light" and make them into superstars or because his secret society of gnomes from the planet Jupiter don't like the content and demand they be dropped.
While I agree to some extent with most of what you are saying, let's not forget that Jimmy Iovine is in fact a "powerful music executive" who has a huge sway in what gets supported by Interscope. If Jimmy doesn't have faith in something, its not going to come out. Being the head honcho counts for something.
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yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah
5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.
and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
Sorry but you still don't get it . it is true fact the most evils of this world are created ore cause by white man. they stole america from my people & they did it to every other country . so they are smarter then you because you are blind . ..no there has never ever been a black man in the KKK ever.it is not racist at all . they just have there eyes open unlike you.
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yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah
5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.
and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
Sorry but you still don't get it . it is true fact the most evils of this world are created ore cause by white man. they stole america from my people & they did it to every other country . so they are smarter then you because you are blind . ..no there has never ever been a black man in the KKK ever.it is not racist at all . they just have there eyes open unlike you.
Okay, this proves you're an idiot or at the very least have a poor understand of both history, cultures & their development, and humanity,
Most evils in the world are created by white men? Really? Prove it.
For every evil that white man has done there's a person of a different race. Just because Europeans were the first to hit the major technological revolutions and possess both the political warfare, guts, ego, and skill to conquer does not mean other people of color haven't done it before.
Have you not heard of the Moores?
Are you oblivious to Genghis Khan?
What about the Persians conquering Egypt?
Do you think white people created the concept of slavery? Are you unaware that Africans were first legally sold into slavery to whites? You are aware that slaves existed in Africa before any Europeans hit the continent, right?
The truth of the matter is all people of all cultures are pretty similar. They fight & they kill over land and petty differences. The biggest difference that changed is that Europeans managed to break through technological and then forced the way onward with warfare unlike any particular culture before. Hence, they were able to dominant unlike any other culture before.
These concepts of peace; civil rights; justice are all relatively new. Go back 600 years in any said location and you'll find people murdering each other over stupid shit.
Go read a fucking history book you damn tard.
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yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah
5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.
and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
Sorry but you still don't get it . it is true fact the most evils of this world are created ore cause by white man. they stole america from my people & they did it to every other country . so they are smarter then you because you are blind . ..no there has never ever been a black man in the KKK ever.it is not racist at all . they just have there eyes open unlike you.
Also, do some basic internet research and you can find information about the black relationship to the KKK,
http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm (Though I recognize this is a biased source. There is still some truth to be extracted from this. Additionally, other sources are used which further supports the argument a very small percentage of the kkk were black).
(http://static.open.salon.com/files/black_kkk1253036271.gif)
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While I agree to some extent with most of what you are saying, let's not forget that Jimmy Iovine is in fact a "powerful music executive" who has a huge sway in what gets supported by Interscope. If Jimmy doesn't have faith in something, its not going to come out. Being the head honcho counts for something.
Well, that should go without saying. Jimmy runs Interscope so obviously, his word and money carry the most weight. The point I'm getting at is that it isn't him dictating what a hit is. Obviously if you're running a label, you are putting your money and promotion behind what you think is gonna make you the most revenue in return. That's just how the labels are run. I'm not saying there aren't personal politics behind it. I'm more challenging some of these people who yell and get upset about it. We're talking about guys who run some of the biggest money-making ventures in the country and deal with the biggest entertainers in the world. You really think these people play fair?
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^off course, but Jimmy definitely has blood on his hands
In what sense?
his obsession with numbers