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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: 2dog on May 31, 2010, 09:35:24 AM
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Sales spins etc
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no
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How bout "I Got 5 On It"
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i don't know about the sales etc but that's my favorite song! no doubt!
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
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nuthin but a g thang
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california love
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Response to thread title: WHO CARES
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Cant Touch This- MC Hammer
;D
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Cant Touch This- MC Hammer
This.
Edit: possibly Baby Got Back as well
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Still Dre is up there.
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
This...
The single reached number one in the United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.
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Worldwide I'd say Gangstas Paradise by Coolio sold a lot more copies than Regulate.
Nothin But A G Thang is clearly a hip hop classic and is very well known but I don't think it was exactly a top ten hit outside of the States. It certainly wasnt in anywhere in the UK.
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
This...
The single reached number one in the United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.
Bigger than Baby Got Back?
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
This...
The single reached number one in the United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.
Bigger than Baby Got Back?
Baby Got Back wasnt even a hit in the UK. The only reason its famous in the wider public (ie. outside of hip-hop, who obviously know it well) is because of its comic value and use in films etc.
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Response to thread title: WHO CARES
People live in the past way tooooo much.
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
This...
The single reached number one in the United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.
Bigger than Baby Got Back?
Baby Got Back wasnt even a hit in the UK. The only reason its famous in the wider public (ie. outside of hip-hop, who obviously know it well) is because of its comic value and use in films etc.
In all honesty, who gives a fuck whether it was a hit in the UK? As far as hip hop is concerned, the US is by far the biggest market. If it ain't a hit in the US, it ain't a hit. And WHY it was popular doesn't really matter and is mere speculation. I could say the only reason Gangsta's Paradise is popular is because it was the theme for a movie and because it stole the hook and music from a Stevie Wonder song.
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maybe coolio - gangsters paradise
This...
The single reached number one in the United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.
wikipedia! :raisetheroof:
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Regulate , G Thang , Dre Day , It was a good day probally the biggest westcoast singles
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California Love or Nuthin But A G Thang....
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gotta go with baby got bacc yell
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no, not the biggest. but one of the dopest
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no, not the biggest. but one of the dopest
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Id say its a toss up between gangsters paradise,california love and regulate.All three were huge and I continue to hear them on the radio today.
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skee lo - i wish? jk
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Gangsters Paradise has to be the biggest. old white people even still sing that track at kareokee untill this day. that song was huge all over the world.
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Gangsters Paradise has to be the biggest. old white people even still sing that track at kareokee untill this day. that song was huge all over the world.
What the fuck you doing hanging out with old people singing kareokee for you ya fucking weirdo.
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California Love. It's still played today, and over the last 15 years, I'm sure it has passed Gangsta's Paradise in spins and sales.
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no
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Response to thread title: WHO CARES
lol funny when people say shit like this
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one of them...
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I reckon its Whats My Name by Snoop Dogg, I grew on that tape
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Gangstas Paradise for sure.
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besides the fresh prnce theme Can't touch this is the biggest hip-hop hit ever
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1.regulate
2.gangsters paradise
3.nuthin but a g thang
4.i got 5 on it
damn tuff 1 but regulate is the best song IMO
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i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
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i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
Yes my equal, yell
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i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
word. people don't want to admit that a corny pop song was the biggest hit from the west
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which song tho?
and whats considered the biggest hit?
isnt the song wit the most play the best vs sales?
i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
word. people don't want to admit that a corny pop song was the biggest hit from the west
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which song tho?
and whats considered the biggest hit?
isnt the song wit the most play the best vs sales?
i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
word. people don't want to admit that a corny pop song was the biggest hit from the west
Both U Can't Touch This and Baby Got Back have transcended hip hop to the point where any non-hip hop fan will have heard of them. They still get play at radio, clubs, weddings, etc. to this day. It shouldn't even be a question that they are bigger.
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they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
which song tho?
and whats considered the biggest hit?
isnt the song wit the most play the best vs sales?
i swear i thought this was about the biggest song yet people name'n they favorites and what's the dopest to them hahaha, baby got bacc been in hella commercials movies,as well as can't touch this,and cali love and gangsta's paradise yell
word. people don't want to admit that a corny pop song was the biggest hit from the west
Both U Can't Touch This and Baby Got Back have transcended hip hop to the point where any non-hip hop fan will have heard of them. They still get play at radio, clubs, weddings, etc. to this day. It shouldn't even be a question that they are bigger.
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they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
What the hell does "more classic" even mean? A hit is a fucking hit, man. Calling in artistic merit because some cheesy one-hit wonder has stood out more than something Pac or Cube or even Dre did is a little weak.
Question I'd like to know is are we talking about what song from the 90's was biggest then or has managed to stay big through out the years because it's two different conversations? Either way, it ain't "Regulate".
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Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
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Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
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they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
Who cares? That has nothing to do with this thread. And lol @ more classic
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nah im sayin regulate is the best song but it didnt get as much play weddings etc...as others but does that mean it aint as big?
i mean regulate to the westcoast....should mean alot
to the westcoast alone....what other song is as dope as that considerin when it came out, and what has happened since?
they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
Who cares? That has nothing to do with this thread. And lol @ more classic
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Yes that's exactly what it means
nah im sayin regulate is the best song but it didnt get as much play weddings etc...as others but does that mean it aint as big?
i mean regulate to the westcoast....should mean alot
to the westcoast alone....what other song is as dope as that considerin when it came out, and what has happened since?
they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
Who cares? That has nothing to do with this thread. And lol @ more classic
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Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
Ill give it all the credit it deserves.Through some quick research I notcied that its 2x platinum.California Love is also 2x times platinum and gangters paradise is 2 times platinum.So what makes baby got back got back bigger then them?Because it gets used a novelty at weddings its a bigger song?
Im not basing anything on my opinion,I just know that gangsters paradise,regulate and california love were huge songs and still get play to this day,thats not my opinion thats just what we call a fact.
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nah im sayin regulate is the best song but it didnt get as much play weddings etc...as others but does that mean it aint as big?
i mean regulate to the westcoast....should mean alot
to the westcoast alone....what other song is as dope as that considerin when it came out, and what has happened since?
they get more play but are they better in terms of muzik and more CLASSIC?
no way
Who cares? That has nothing to do with this thread. And lol @ more classic
Who are you to say which one is more important to the west coast? Are you even from the west coast? Regulate is definitely more important to this forum, but this forum doesn't represent the west coast, it represents mostly Europeans stuck on west coast gangsta rap. You are aware the west isn't popping in the states anymore, right? You go out and ask random people whether they know both songs (on any coast), I guarantee you more people will know Baby Got Back than Regulate. You can argue back and forth WHY a song got as big as it did, but still doesn't change which one was bigger. You ask any hip hop fan of the 90s, they will know Regulate. You ask anyone who listens to music period, they will know Baby Got Back. If that doesn't make clear which one was bigger I don't know what does.
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really I want to know if anyone arguing with me is actually from the states, cause if you aren't you might not get just how big that song was.
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I garauntee you if you ask random people what their favourite songs are from westcoast hip hop in the 90s almost nobody is going to say baby got back.most people know it as a novelty song and dont even know its a westcoast song.
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I garauntee you if you ask random people what their favourite songs are from westcoast hip hop in the 90s almost nobody is going to say baby got back.most people know it as a novelty song and dont even know its a westcoast song.
who gives a fuck who someone's favorite song from the westcoast is? Why don't you go make another topic about it?
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I garauntee you if you ask random people what their favourite songs are from westcoast hip hop in the 90s almost nobody is going to say baby got back.most people know it as a novelty song and dont even know its a westcoast song.
who gives a fuck who someone's favorite song from the westcoast is? Why don't you go make another topic about it?
re place the word favourite with biggest,its what i meant anyway.Your still getting the same answer. Nobody will say baby got back.
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real talk jay....you understood what i was sayin
anyday of the year
regulate>>>>>>baby got back and cant touch this and california love
nah im from europe...haha that really makes a difference to some of you....even tho im not
Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
Ill give it all the credit it deserves.Through some quick research I notcied that its 2x platinum.California Love is also 2x times platinum and gangters paradise is 2 times platinum.So what makes baby got back got back bigger then them?Because it gets used a novelty at weddings its a bigger song?
Im not basing anything on my opinion,I just know that gangsters paradise,regulate and california love were huge songs and still get play to this day,thats not my opinion thats just what we call a fact.
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Well I wouldnt put regulate over california love.Its clear that its a bigger song then regulate.From single sales,to album sales to current rotation its got regulate beat.
I think the point Im going at mostly is the thread title is biggest westcoast song of the 90s,not what song has continued to be used today.And baby got back isnt what you call a westcoast song,it transcends being called a westcoast song.now you could say that makes it a bigger song because it transcends the label,but thats the very question whats the biggest wescoast song.You could say black eyed peas is the biggest westcoast group,but they transcend that westcoast label they dont make westcoast music they make music.As does cant touch this,yes hes from the bay but cant touch this isnt westcoast music its just plain old music.I mean hell they didnt rule out what genre were talking about so you can research what rock songs came out from groups that were in california and say those were bigger but thats not the discussion in my eyes.
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I garauntee you if you ask random people what their favourite songs are from westcoast hip hop in the 90s almost nobody is going to say baby got back.most people know it as a novelty song and dont even know its a westcoast song.
who gives a fuck who someone's favorite song from the westcoast is? Why don't you go make another topic about it?
re place the word favourite with biggest,its what i meant anyway.Your still getting the same answer. Nobody will say baby got back.
Lol, so now Sir Mix a Lot isn't west coast? You want to redefine what it means to be a westcoast song just to try and be right? The reason Baby Got Back not identified as a west coast song because it has transcended that classification. Just like songs like Y.M.C.A, or any other huge song in pop culture, they are big enough where they aren't from a specific region. The reason this song is played and parties and weddings, and in movies is because it appeals to a much broader audience.
Saying Baby Got Back isn't a bigger westcoast song than Regulate is like saying the Black Eyed Peas aren't the biggest rap group from the west coast right now. It simply isn't true unless you want to rename the question "what is the biggest westcoast song that sounds westcoast"? And like I said, go make another thread if you want to change the topic.
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real talk jay....you understood what i was sayin
anyday of the year
regulate>>>>>>baby got back and cant touch this and california love
nah im from europe...haha that really makes a difference to some of you....even tho im not
Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
Ill give it all the credit it deserves.Through some quick research I notcied that its 2x platinum.California Love is also 2x times platinum and gangters paradise is 2 times platinum.So what makes baby got back got back bigger then them?Because it gets used a novelty at weddings its a bigger song?
Im not basing anything on my opinion,I just know that gangsters paradise,regulate and california love were huge songs and still get play to this day,thats not my opinion thats just what we call a fact.
you don't quite get the point of this thread. It doesn't matter which one you think is a better song
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baby got back
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For the new millenium era I vote for Candyshop by 50 cent it's been sung at a wedding ^^ Rotfl
Proof here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Tz5M_gM9I
"Baby got back" "played at weddings" oh man dude's just killed me, his mind must be so twisted it's a big mess inside his cranium lol.
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Well I wouldnt put regulate over california love.Its clear that its a bigger song then regulate.From single sales,to album sales to current rotation its got regulate beat.
I think the point Im going at mostly is the thread title is biggest westcoast song of the 90s,not what song has continued to be used today.And baby got back isnt what you call a westcoast song,it transcends being called a westcoast song.now you could say that makes it a bigger song because it transcends the label,but thats the very question whats the biggest wescoast song.You could say black eyed peas is the biggest westcoast group,but they transcend that westcoast label they dont make westcoast music they make music.As does cant touch this,yes hes from the bay but cant touch this isnt westcoast music its just plain old music.I mean hell they didnt rule out what genre were talking about so you can research what rock songs came out from groups that were in california and say those were bigger but thats not the discussion in my eyes.
The problem is you assume that West coast rap is only defined by its sound when its not. It's a regional definition, not a type of song. While certain sounds are more common to different regions, they don't define it. Otherwise you would have to cut out everything else that comes out of west coast hip hop. There's a lot of different stuff that comes out of the west besides gangsta rap, like alternative rap, pop rap, etc. Are you going to say that The Pharcyde isn't a west coast rap group now? What about Blu? He doesn't really sound "west coast". Gift of Gab?
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Lol what about Wild Thing - Tone Loc? Another contender
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For the new millenium era I vote for Candyshop by 50 cent it's been sung at a wedding ^^ Rotfl
Proof here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Tz5M_gM9I
"Baby got back" "played at weddings" oh man dude's just killed me, his mind must be so twisted it's a big mess inside his cranium lol.
that's not even a westcoast song :D
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real talk jay....you understood what i was sayin
anyday of the year
regulate>>>>>>baby got back and cant touch this and california love
nah im from europe...haha that really makes a difference to some of you....even tho im not
Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
Ill give it all the credit it deserves.Through some quick research I notcied that its 2x platinum.California Love is also 2x times platinum and gangters paradise is 2 times platinum.So what makes baby got back got back bigger then them?Because it gets used a novelty at weddings its a bigger song?
Im not basing anything on my opinion,I just know that gangsters paradise,regulate and california love were huge songs and still get play to this day,thats not my opinion thats just what we call a fact.
you don't quite get the point of this thread. It doesn't matter which one you think is a better song
Where did I write which one is better?i quoted sales,and so far you havent quoted anything but your opinion.So maybe its you that doesnt get the thread.
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Well I wouldnt put regulate over california love.Its clear that its a bigger song then regulate.From single sales,to album sales to current rotation its got regulate beat.
I think the point Im going at mostly is the thread title is biggest westcoast song of the 90s,not what song has continued to be used today.And baby got back isnt what you call a westcoast song,it transcends being called a westcoast song.now you could say that makes it a bigger song because it transcends the label,but thats the very question whats the biggest wescoast song.You could say black eyed peas is the biggest westcoast group,but they transcend that westcoast label they dont make westcoast music they make music.As does cant touch this,yes hes from the bay but cant touch this isnt westcoast music its just plain old music.I mean hell they didnt rule out what genre were talking about so you can research what rock songs came out from groups that were in california and say those were bigger but thats not the discussion in my eyes.
The problem is you assume that West coast rap is only defined by its sound when its not. It's a regional definition, not a type of song. While certain sounds are more common to different regions, they don't define it. Otherwise you would have to cut out everything else that comes out of west coast hip hop. There's a lot of different stuff that comes out of the west besides gangsta rap, like alternative rap, pop rap, etc. Are you going to say that The Pharcyde isn't a west coast rap group now? What about Blu? He doesn't really sound "west coast". Gift of Gab?
The problem is Im going by what the thread starters true intent of the thread is and your going by the look how smart I can make myself look method by quoting artists that arent identified as being westcoast but are from their.I mean most dont even know sir mix a lot is from the west coast so if you went around asking random people what the biggest westcoast 90s song your going to get answers like regulate and california love because thats what they see as being westcoast music.And like i said if we go by your logic we might as well include other genres of music.
Like it or not their is a sound that is identified as being westcoast.Thats why why Dj premier is considered a new york producer when hes from the south.You dont hear people saying premo is the best southern prducer or saying hes produced the best southern music now do you?
THE QUESTION WAS BIGGEST WESTCOAST SONG NOT BIGGEST SONG FROM AN ARTIST THAT HAPPENS TO BE FROM THE WESTCOAST.their is a huge difference,and if the thread starter comes back and Im sure he will identify that as being what he was asking.
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another good point jay...most people dont
1.know who sir mix a lot is
2.dont even or havent heard of his song to point it out
id put money on it that a majority have heard cali love and regulate over baby got back....and regulate is better than cali love IMO tho
jay what about still dre? lol
Well I wouldnt put regulate over california love.Its clear that its a bigger song then regulate.From single sales,to album sales to current rotation its got regulate beat.
I think the point Im going at mostly is the thread title is biggest westcoast song of the 90s,not what song has continued to be used today.And baby got back isnt what you call a westcoast song,it transcends being called a westcoast song.now you could say that makes it a bigger song because it transcends the label,but thats the very question whats the biggest wescoast song.You could say black eyed peas is the biggest westcoast group,but they transcend that westcoast label they dont make westcoast music they make music.As does cant touch this,yes hes from the bay but cant touch this isnt westcoast music its just plain old music.I mean hell they didnt rule out what genre were talking about so you can research what rock songs came out from groups that were in california and say those were bigger but thats not the discussion in my eyes.
The problem is you assume that West coast rap is only defined by its sound when its not. It's a regional definition, not a type of song. While certain sounds are more common to different regions, they don't define it. Otherwise you would have to cut out everything else that comes out of west coast hip hop. There's a lot of different stuff that comes out of the west besides gangsta rap, like alternative rap, pop rap, etc. Are you going to say that The Pharcyde isn't a west coast rap group now? What about Blu? He doesn't really sound "west coast". Gift of Gab?
The problem is Im going by what the thread starters true intent of the thread is and your going by the look how smart I can make myself look method by quoting artists that arent identified as being westcoast but are from their.I mean most dont even know sir mix a lot is from the west coast so if you went around asking random people what the biggest westcoast 90s song your going to get answers like regulate and california love because thats what they see as being westcoast music.And like i said if we go by your logic we might as well include other genres of music.
Like it or not their is a sound that is identified as being westcoast.Thats why why Dj premier is considered a new york artist when hes from the south.You dont hear people saying premo is the best southern prducer or saying hes produced the best southern music now do you?
THE QUESTION WAS BIGGEST WESTCOAST SONG NOT BIGGEST SONG FROM AN ARTIST THAT HAPPENS TO BE FROM THE WESTCOAST.their is a huge difference,and if the thread starter comes back and Im sure he will identify that as being what he was asking.
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Well Im going to have to disagree with you,i dont know anyone that hasnt heard baby got back.
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many have but IMO not as much as regulate and mos def not as much as cali love
they prolly didnt even know regulate would become such a dope classic song
Well Im going to have to disagree with you,i dont know anyone that hasnt heard baby got back.
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Yeah I mean on the same coin I dont know anyone that hasnt heard regulate or california love.
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The idiocy in here is overwhelming. Then again enyce has a lot to say.
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and your from and live in canada right?
Yeah I mean on the same coin I dont know anyone that hasnt heard regulate or california love.
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Vancouver.Which is only a few hours drive from seattle which is where sir mix a lot is from
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lol...im laughin cuz you somehow brought that back to sir mix a lot
Vancouver.Which is only a few hours drive from seattle which is where sir mix a lot is from
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real talk jay....you understood what i was sayin
anyday of the year
regulate>>>>>>baby got back and cant touch this and california love
nah im from europe...haha that really makes a difference to some of you....even tho im not
Yeah the terms of what we are discussing isnt actually clear.I mean if getting spins at weddings and being used a novelty is the factor then yes baby got back is among the biggest lol.
Lol, you're exactly what I meant when I said people don't want to give credit to certain songs. Maybe you don't like the song but I don't think novelty has anything do to with it. How do you define what is a novelty and what isn't? Michael Jackson gets played at weddings at well, are you going to call his music a novelty? If you think one song is better than another that's entirely your opinion and has nothing to do with the basis of this thread.
Gangsta rap because incredibly popular because white suburban kids thought it was cool. Non-gangsters making songs about being gangsters for shock value isn't any less of a novelty than a guy talking about girls with big butts. At least Sir Mix a Lot was honest ya know?
Ill give it all the credit it deserves.Through some quick research I notcied that its 2x platinum.California Love is also 2x times platinum and gangters paradise is 2 times platinum.So what makes baby got back got back bigger then them?Because it gets used a novelty at weddings its a bigger song?
Im not basing anything on my opinion,I just know that gangsters paradise,regulate and california love were huge songs and still get play to this day,thats not my opinion thats just what we call a fact.
you don't quite get the point of this thread. It doesn't matter which one you think is a better song
Where did I write which one is better?i quoted sales,and so far you havent quoted anything but your opinion.So maybe its you that doesnt get the thread.
I was quoting the other guy obviously
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Well I wouldnt put regulate over california love.Its clear that its a bigger song then regulate.From single sales,to album sales to current rotation its got regulate beat.
I think the point Im going at mostly is the thread title is biggest westcoast song of the 90s,not what song has continued to be used today.And baby got back isnt what you call a westcoast song,it transcends being called a westcoast song.now you could say that makes it a bigger song because it transcends the label,but thats the very question whats the biggest wescoast song.You could say black eyed peas is the biggest westcoast group,but they transcend that westcoast label they dont make westcoast music they make music.As does cant touch this,yes hes from the bay but cant touch this isnt westcoast music its just plain old music.I mean hell they didnt rule out what genre were talking about so you can research what rock songs came out from groups that were in california and say those were bigger but thats not the discussion in my eyes.
The problem is you assume that West coast rap is only defined by its sound when its not. It's a regional definition, not a type of song. While certain sounds are more common to different regions, they don't define it. Otherwise you would have to cut out everything else that comes out of west coast hip hop. There's a lot of different stuff that comes out of the west besides gangsta rap, like alternative rap, pop rap, etc. Are you going to say that The Pharcyde isn't a west coast rap group now? What about Blu? He doesn't really sound "west coast". Gift of Gab?
The problem is Im going by what the thread starters true intent of the thread is and your going by the look how smart I can make myself look method by quoting artists that arent identified as being westcoast but are from their.I mean most dont even know sir mix a lot is from the west coast so if you went around asking random people what the biggest westcoast 90s song your going to get answers like regulate and california love because thats what they see as being westcoast music.And like i said if we go by your logic we might as well include other genres of music.
Like it or not their is a sound that is identified as being westcoast.Thats why why Dj premier is considered a new york producer when hes from the south.You dont hear people saying premo is the best southern prducer or saying hes produced the best southern music now do you?
THE QUESTION WAS BIGGEST WESTCOAST SONG NOT BIGGEST SONG FROM AN ARTIST THAT HAPPENS TO BE FROM THE WESTCOAST.their is a huge difference,and if the thread starter comes back and Im sure he will identify that as being what he was asking.
Is Blu not wescoast? What about Del or Souls of Mis? Are you saying "Passing Me By" isn't a westcoast song? None of these dudes sound like what you interpret as being "west coast", but they are all the same. Your logic makes zero sense. It's ludicrous to say Blu isn't a west coast rapper, just like its ludicrous to say Sir Mix a Lot isn't a west coast rapper. A song isn't westcoast by its sound, its westcoast because that's where the rapper claims. This should be obvious considering that there are westcoast rappers who are influenced by other sounds and vice versa. For example, Masta Ace's Born to Roll is not a westcoast song, even though it may sound like one.
Primo is identified from being an East coast producer cause THAT IS WHERE HE LIVES AND MAKES MUSIC. If he had never moved to NY would you still be calling his music east coast? Of course not. The same way Pac is identified as a west coast rapper because that is where he lived and claimed while he was making music. It has nothing to do with their sound. Next you're going to tell me that Jay Electronica is an east coast rapper....just admit it, you're coming up with shit cause you don't want to admit you're wrong. A westcoast song does not mean G Funk, it means a song made by a west coast rapper. You're the one trying to be smart and failing. You're wrong and you don't want to admit it.
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Why dont we wait until the thread starter comes back and ask what he was really getting at.Because its obvious your thick headed and always want to appear to be correct no matter what.
And again if we go by your logic we might as well be throwing in other genres of music.Or are you completely ignoring this part?
And what proof do you have of baby got back being the biggest song?Or is it only your opinion just like everyone else and your trying to convince people its fact?
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another good point jay...most people dont
1.know who sir mix a lot is
2.dont even or havent heard of his song to point it out
LMFAO!!! This is the funniest shit I've heard all day....just leave dude, cause you're butchering yourself. Now you've clearly exposed yourself as a Euro. You shouldn't even be in this debate when you clearly have no idea about the influence these songs have had. I don't know how you do it in Europe, but in America everyone and their grandma knows Baby Got Back. Ya know, I was actually here in the US listening to these songs when they came out and seeing the impact they had. I'm sure your experience was completely different. It's obvious you get your all your hip hop info entirely from the internet. Well let me school. For one, California Love was bigger than Regulate, and secondly, Baby Got Back was way bigger than either of them. And that's no hate on Europeans, but if you weren't here, you can't exactly speak on how big each of these songs were. You weren't listening to our radio stations, you weren't watching our tv, you weren't in on the current fads in our schools. And that's just how it is. It would be like asking me what the biggest songs in Europe were 20 years ago. How the fuck would I know? Even if I went on a European forum and loved their music, I still wouldn't presume to speak on its influence.
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From my research,baby got back sold two million singles,and california love has sold two million.But all eyez on me has gone 9x times platinum.So what makes baby got back a bigger song?Becuase it gets played at weddings for novelty and used in a couple movies makes it a bigger song?
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Why dont we wait until the thread starter comes back and ask what he was really getting at.Because its obvious your thick headed and always want to appear to be correct no matter what.
And again if we go by your logic we might as well be throwing in other genres of music.Or are you completely ignoring this part?
And what proof do you have of baby got back being the biggest song?Or is it only your opinion just like everyone else and your trying to convince people its fact?
Sure....let's wait ::) But westcoast rap is a regional genre. How can you possibly say its a specific sound? Did you just ignore all those examples I just listed? I'd like to see you try to even define what makes a song "westcoast." Go ahead.
And what are you on about throwing in other genres? This is a hip hop forum, clearly he's talking about rap songs. It's quite obvious that there are much bigger songs outside of the rap genre.
The reason I go out and say Baby Got Back is the bigger song is because I assumed its something everyone would know. Just by looking at its influence here in the states, and not even having to look up numbers. Just like you could tell me what's the biggest thing going on in Canada, simply from you being there. I don't need to look up numbers, seeing as how I was here. Both songs sold extremely well and got airplay. But one remained mostly for hip hop fans while the other one became a huge thing outside of hip hop, from movies to clubs etc., one of those songs that everyone knows. Novelty, yeah but still bigger. Most huge songs are novelty. That's why they are so successful.
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lol @ you being there.You know canada isnt some small country in europe or south america.I experience the same shit,I see the same tv shows,I hear the same music.The differences between the states and canada is minimal.So that just showed typical american ignorance but thats pretty much expected.Like I said I live a couple hours from where sir mix a lot was born,Im closer to him then you are.
Ive literally seen you make posts about songs sounding westcoast so should we even touch that subject?Every region has a sound that defines it,did you just crawl out of a hole?Thats why when say a premo track comes on people say something like thats vintage new york right there!or when a new generic ice cube song comes on they say thats westcoast shit right there!
So when baby got back comes on people dont say man thats a great westcoast song,they say man this songs hilarious!when california love or regulate come on people say man thats a great westcoast track!classic!
So when someone asks whast the biggest westcoast song people dont talk about baby got back they talk about songs that sound westcoast.Again the question wasnt what song that came from an artist that is born from the westcoast is the biggest song its whats the biggest westcoast song.
And again your not really saying much,just stating your opinion.I see the sales being the same.And Ive never met a person in my life who hasnt heard regulate or california love or baby got back.
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From my research,baby got back sold two million singles,and california love has sold two million.But all eyez on me has gone 9x times platinum.So what makes baby got back a bigger song?Becuase it gets played at weddings for novelty and used in a couple movies makes it a bigger song?
The fact that you even have to go and look up numbers shows that you aren't aware of its influence. It's a staple of pop culture while California Love isn't. The more people who know of a song the bigger it is. Cmon this is shit anyone should know.
Fyi, All Eyez on Me had a different version of the song on it, plus five of its own singles, plus its an album by 2Pac, plus it was released by Death Row. Not sure what that proves.
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lol @ me looking at the numbers indicating.All that shows is im actually trying to prove my point with facts while you just keep stating your opinion over and over.
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rapsodie and jaydc: the battle of the retards :D
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lol @ you being there.You know canada isnt some small country in europe or south america.I experience the same shit,I see the same tv shows,I hear the same music.The differences between the states and canada is minimal.So that just showed typical american ignorance but thats pretty much expected.
Ive literally seen you make posts about songs sounding westcoast so should we even touch that subject?Every region has a sound that defines it,did you just crawl out of a hole?Thats why when say a premo track comes on people say something like thats vintage new york right there!or when a new generic ice cube song comes on they say thats westcoast shit right there!
So when baby got back comes on people dont say man thats a great westcoast song,they say man this songs hilarious!when california love or regulate come on people say man thats a great westcoast track!classic!
So when someone asks whast the biggest westcoast song people dont talk about baby got back they talk about songs that sound westcoast.Again the question wasnt what song that came from an artist that is born from the westcoast is the biggest song its whats the biggest westcoast song.
And again your not really saying much,just stating your opinion.I see the sales being the same.And Ive never met a person in my life who hasnt heard regulate or california love or baby got back.
If Canada and the U.S. are the same, then why aren't you aware that Baby Got Back was bigger? It sure was over here. And are you saying your mom and your grandma know those two songs?
You seem to be putting words in my mouth. Did I ever say a song couldn't sound like its from west coast? G Funk is associated with the west coast. But just cause a song isn't G Funk doesn't mean its not west coast. Didn't I just point out that Masta Ace's Born to Roll sounds west coast?? The question is IS it west coast? No, its an east coast song. Cause Masta Ace is an east coast rapper. And kind of funny you mentioned Ice Cube considering his first album didn't sound west coast either. Are you telling me Nigga You Love to Hate ISN'T a west coast song? Please answer this question. And then please answer about Blu. And all the alternative rap groups on the west coast. Are they not west coast either?
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rapsodie and jaydc: the battle of the retards :D
looks like this thread is toast. Was good while it lasted
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don't worry, i don't give a fuck about you two
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If you didn't you wouldn't post here
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If you didn't you wouldn't post here
this thread is not about you or gaydc :-*
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
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It's hilarious the level of butt hurting there is in this tread over such a trivial subject. Do you guys all have aspergers?
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
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It's hilarious the level of butt hurting there is in this tread over such a trivial subject. Do you guys all have aspergers?
probably
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
yes,i have an opinion but i don't wanna ruin this amazing battle between you two :D
it's a LOL after LOL after ROFTL after LMAO
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
yes,i have an opinion but i don't wanna ruin this amazing battle between you two :D
it's a LOL after LOL after ROFTL after LMAO
But you already did ruin it by coming in and disrupting. This is exactly the type of thing I was talking about in the other thread. You just randomly come in and mess up threads, instead of adding to them.
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California Love.
^ This and Regulate still play on radio every now and then.
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
yes,i have an opinion but i don't wanna ruin this amazing battle between you two :D
it's a LOL after LOL after ROFTL after LMAO
But you already did ruin it by coming in and disrupting.
the thread was already a mess and a joke at the same time thanks to you and jaydc.
with what i've said (the truth) i haven't done nothing
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can we sort of setup some truce so these guys stop both bitching on threads
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California Love. It's still played today, and over the last 15 years, I'm sure it has passed Gangsta's Paradise in spins and sales.
proofs ?
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
yes,i have an opinion but i don't wanna ruin this amazing battle between you two :D
it's a LOL after LOL after ROFTL after LMAO
But you already did ruin it by coming in and disrupting.
the thread was already a mess and a joke at the same time thanks to you and jaydc.
with what i've said (the truth) i haven't done nothing
at least we were arguing about the topic at hand. Your posts have had nothing to do with it.
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Rapsodie and I were argueing about the topic at hand,thats what forum discussions are for.We seem to do it a lot lately and I actually enjoy it because we dont seem to agree on almost anything and both of us seem to be decent debaters.I for one enjoy debating on any subject,I dont know why but I just do.Probably an ego thing lol.So it doesnt matter if its trivial or not,were on a westcoast rap forum discussing westcoast rap,if you want to read arguements about something meaningful,get the fuck off this forum and go somewhere else.And elano is just an idiot and everybody knows it,hes a troll of the highest order and its only a matter of time before he gets banned again for his idiocy.
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Rapsodie and I were argueing about the topic at hand,thats what forum discussions are for.We seem to do it a lot lately and I actually enjoy it because we dont seem to agree on almost anything and both of us seem to be decent debaters.I for one enjoy debating on any subject,I dont know why but I just do.Probably an ego thing lol.So it doesnt matter if its trivial or not,were on a westcoast rap forum discussing westcoast rap,if you want to read arguements about something meaningful,get the fuck off this forum and go somewhere else.And elano is just an idiot and everybody knows it,hes a troll of the highest order and its only a matter of time before he gets banned again for his idiocy.
arguements :D
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.......and you're still here. Big surprise. If its not about me or Jaydc do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion?
you are boring as hell,please stop.
do you have an opinion on the discussion or not? Otherwise, why are you here? You say you don't care about me, so why are the only posts you've made to attack me?
yes,i have an opinion but i don't wanna ruin this amazing battle between you two :D
it's a LOL after LOL after ROFTL after LMAO
But you already did ruin it by coming in and disrupting.
the thread was already a mess and a joke at the same time thanks to you and jaydc.
with what i've said (the truth) i haven't done nothing
at least we were arguing about the topic at hand. Your posts have had nothing to do with it.
ok but don't cry.
and check my last post :loser:
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California Love
Regulate
Gangsta's Paradise
I Got 5 On It
What's My Name
Those are the biggest West Coast song's ever that still get the radio play every single day..
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California Love
Regulate
Gangsta's Paradise
I Got 5 On It
What's My Name
Those are the biggest West Coast song's ever that still get the radio play every single day..
every single day...where ? in los angeles i guess
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not it in that shithole country you live in elano,thats for sure.
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not it in that shithole country you live in elano,thats for sure.
(http://ghislain.streamwave.com/images/f-canada.jpg)
you must be proud to be a dumb canadian and to live
in a shitty country full of homos and pedos :loser:
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Regulate, Still Dre, Gangsta's paradise & California Love are the biggest Hip-Hop Songs
Baby Got Back & Can't touch this are the biggest songs
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NO FIRST TO BOMB IS NLR GANG SCRAP KILLAZ HXA