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Title: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on July 31, 2010, 08:28:49 AM
Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
if you had read some of my blogs(which i ain't into at all, unless its one of those free d/l music ones, i mean i've got a life, but its a free fucking world, yes it is, so i ain't hating, because i ain't a hater, i've got a life, even though those other blogs are done by bougie nerds wit big mouths behind computer screens a million miles away in secret locations, wit too much time on there hands) i was forced to do back in the day because of unanamed sex offenders trying it wit me and my famo from secret identity's behind secret locations, which i only did because at the time i thought it was mostly industry mudda fockers and i thought if i shame them on a public underground, make em lose fans, customers, flop there money, kick food out of there mouths publicly, even on a undergound level, they would front for the public and bring it to man on the streets, you get what i'm saying, i don't have to elaborate and if you had checked them back then, then you would know certain names were on there, some warranted even to this day, but most were on some goofy shit, like i was just running wit whatever name popped in my head that the sex offending voices sounded remotely like to me, witout being technical and being more professional wit it like i do now, because i don't play games when it comes to the protection of my family from poom poom pussy sex offender, weakheart, insect worm, piece of pussy, nasty vermin, sex offender's, you get what i'm saying, because if it ain't you, then that person would have nuthin to worry about and have a life and bills and wouldn't have time to worry about blogs or websites if it ain't them, i'd see it the same way if it was on the other way and the shoe was on the other foot, its probably gonna turn out to be a bunch of crackheads, brownheads and coke freaks wit a few entertainment heads in the mix aswell, you get me

but my point is, putting certain heads on there over flimsy shit at that time, wern't smart or technical or productive, it was just i really wanted to get my hands on whoever it was and do some serious damage to them, you get what i'm saying, they are hardcore sex offenders, pure and simple, rapist, paedophilles, peeping toms, voyeurs, stalkers, rejected repulsive gay groupies, rejected repulsive, skin crawlinly vomit inducing, revoulting and creepy like a faggot, nonce(paedophille) bitches, who have major, serious, severe, warped out, goofy, mental, creepy, disturbing, nasty, repulsive, sexual perv problems, typical sex offenders that can't get sex in an appropiate fashion that can't take rejection and don't know when to stop, no matter how much these chump pussy perverts get exposed in public, so i had to protect my famo and the public from these coward, no shame, no pride, no dignity, pussy little scumbag pervs, you see what i'm saying, by any means necessary, my famo and innocent public that mind there own bizness and think about who they know only are more important than them, yes they are, in every capacity

so i won't disrepect certain human beings wit naming previous names that was put onto that list goofyly and embarrasinly, looking back now and lower them or put them on the same level as these sex offender piece of shits, all i'm gonna say is wyclef is a decent brother, thats got genuine love worldwide and who does a lot for the community and always shows love to the hoods worldwide wherever he goes andv touch's down, he's for the hood, truss me on that and for that brother to be the president of haiti, which it looks likely like its gonna be, then thats just a beautiful thing because for the first time ever, other than hugo chavez and other a-alikes like him throughout history, for the first time other than those type of brothers and sisters, its the first time that we're gonna get someone from our generation, one of our kind, from our community, in power, no fake, anti-christ illumati good conman barack obama bizness, you get what i'm saying, wit the mandate to do genuine good, i just hope they don't try to assasinate that brother or sumthin you know, for real like, you get me, i'm proud of that brother, because i would have loved to be the president of my parents birthplace, z(zambia in southern africa), but the rules there right now don't allow it and i know if i tried to carry out my agenda there, i would get assassinated asap, no questions asked, so big up wyclef for carrying that foot forward and representing, if he gets elected it will be a very proud day for hip hop and for our human being's thats on a level community worldwide, full stop, you get what i'm saying, wyclef, salute, salute, salute, 21 gun salute to that brother, my people, salute, big up, salute cuzzy

this is taken from www.allhiphop.com

Breaking News: Wyclef Jean To Run For President Of Haiti; Announcement Next Week
Friday, July 30, 2010 3:16 PM | 33 comments
By Roman Wolfe and Grouchy Greg Watkins
Get Alerts (AllHipHop News) Hip-Hop star Wyclef Jean will announce his bid for the President of Haiti, a source has confirmed with AllHipHop.com exclusively.

Sources close to Wyclef confirmed with AllHipHop.com that the rapper will announce his bid for the country’s highest office next Thursday, on August 5th.

The 37-year-old was born in Haiti, but immigrated to the United States at the age of 9-years-old, when he landed in Brooklyn, before settling in South Orange, New Jersey.

As a member of The Fugees and as a solo artist, Wyclef has sold millions of records, in addition to collaborating with artists like Paul Simon, Gloria Estefen, Destiny’s Child, Carlos Santana and others.

The rapper sprung into action on January 12th, when his native land was leveled by a 7.0 earthquake that left 300,000 people dead over a million others displaced.

Even prior to the earthquake, Wyclef Jean’s Yele Haiti organization raised funds for the country, but after the deadly earthquake, the rapper helped raise over $10 million dollars in less than three months.

The rapper will make his official announcement just two days prior to the country’s August 7th deadline to submit his plan for running for President.

Analysts are predicting that Wyclef Jean will easily win the race with his financial connections, influence among the Haitian youth and his political influence around the world.

The news of his candidacy has stoked fears in opponents planning to run for the head office in November.

"I think if Wyclef is allowed to run he will have a straight victory," political leader and former presidential candidate Himmler Rebu told Reuters yesterday.

Jean, who maintained his status as a citizen of Haiti, was in the country yesterday, where he was preparing for his upcoming campaign.

The rapper/musician also has political clout in the country.

His uncle, Raymond Alcide Joseph, has been the Haitian ambassador to the United States since 2005 and helped Wyclef’s drive to raise money and relief aid for victims of the massive earthquake.

Elections are slated for November 28th.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Mike Harris on July 31, 2010, 06:20:36 PM
That would be ill. Haiti might be a poppin' ass place if it happens.
But I only fuck with redbones so no dark skin Haitians for me
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on July 31, 2010, 06:59:44 PM
your a faggot, go watch brian pumper or sumthin and stay out my thread

big up all my haitian crew, salute
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on July 31, 2010, 08:50:13 PM
your a faggot, go watch brian pumper or sumthin and stay out my thread

big up all my haitian crew, salute

No need to attack dudes opinion. And this might be a good thing, he seems like a down, earth centered person.

i'm not attacking his opinon, black human being black, is black human being black to me, i don't see dark skin or light skin black human beings, i just see black, if a human being chick is pretty or not, you get what i'm saying, but its a perfectly free world for straight human beings to have there personal preference, i don't have a problem wit that, its a free fucking world, yes it is, so long as you are genuinely straight in a appropriate way wit human being chicks on the streets face to face, in a consensual manner, in there age range, then your cool wit me, anything else is not straight shit or above board or sex offender, no it isn't

i want this faggot out of my thread because he said brian pumper is sexy in a thread about larry fishburn's daughter in the g-spot forum, i don't want fags in my threads, no i don't, fuck em
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 31, 2010, 11:46:07 PM
That would be interesting, if Wyclef becomes their president, I definitely will start following their day to day political moves on the regular.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 01, 2010, 02:00:02 AM
That would be interesting, if Wyclef becomes their president, I definitely will start following their day to day political moves on the regular.

you know this fam, one of us is gonna be in political power, representing for our brothers and sisters over there, its a beautiful thing, i'm so proud of clef taking this foot forward and not backing down, salute that brother for real, salute, salute, salute, yep, yep, yep
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Sami on August 01, 2010, 05:27:30 AM
His uncle is their Ambassador to the US so he must be plugged in to their leadership already somewhat, but he'll have a tough road ahead if he wins, because the powers that be (big corporations) could just drive him out like they did Aristide if he rocks the boat too much. I hope he promotes economic development by Haiti for Haitians rather than relying on foreign aid, cause the aid could be used as a means of strangling his gov't if he stands up to pressure from the major powers (like the US). Yet I'm hopeful, Wyclef seems like he is principled and thoughtful, and he is not stupid or greedy.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 01, 2010, 07:52:50 AM
Jean-Bertrand Aristide is getting shitted on again. Wyclef should be trying to support bringing this man back into his country. The military over threw him once, and Bush Jr.the second and his never allowed to return to his country. He was a Catholic priest and he tried so hard to rebuild Haiti, but he pissed off the elite and they paid for the military to get rid of him. Wyclef should be trying to restore Aristide to power, not filling his ego.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 01, 2010, 01:31:34 PM
@sami
yeah clef seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, i just hope the powers that be don't try to assassinate him through proxy's if he switches on the system too much, fuck the system

@m dogg
i ain't gonna front or nuthin, i don't know too much about aristide too much, but i know anyone whose is an enemy of the system, especially if its someone like george w bush, is on a level too me, because the system dosen't like any human being whose is on a level, no they don't
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Fraxxx on August 02, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
Jean-Bertrand Aristide is getting shitted on again. Wyclef should be trying to support bringing this man back into his country. The military over threw him once, and Bush Jr.the second and his never allowed to return to his country. He was a Catholic priest and he tried so hard to rebuild Haiti, but he pissed off the elite and they paid for the military to get rid of him. Wyclef should be trying to restore Aristide to power, not filling his ego.

Needless to say that the Haitian elite, the US government and the IMF had their hand into this. But Aristide turned out nothing better than any other despot, relying on intimidation and death squads. And of course he came back, he had a second term in office. Overall, it's a difficult topic. I found this http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n08/paul-farmer/who-removed-aristide article which I think is worth reading, as well as the letters to it.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 02, 2010, 11:24:36 AM
Jean-Bertrand Aristide is getting shitted on again. Wyclef should be trying to support bringing this man back into his country. The military over threw him once, and Bush Jr.the second and his never allowed to return to his country. He was a Catholic priest and he tried so hard to rebuild Haiti, but he pissed off the elite and they paid for the military to get rid of him. Wyclef should be trying to restore Aristide to power, not filling his ego.

Needless to say that the Haitian elite, the US government and the IMF had their hand into this. But Aristide turned out nothing better than any other despot, relying on intimidation and death squads. And of course he came back, he had a second term in office. Overall, it's a difficult topic. I found this http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n08/paul-farmer/who-removed-aristide article which I think is worth reading, as well as the letters to it.

Explain to me when Aristide had death squads in his first term, since it only lasted 7 months!! I mean, if his using intimidation to stay in power, it failed bad. On the subject of that article, you said I should read it, and when I did I get a one sided argument that never said anything on death squads. It talks about left wing politics and how the middle class and elite hate him, which is true. But in a democracy, you have to do for the majority, and the majority is poor. Wyclef is already came out again Aristide in the past, saying he should be removed because hundreds of thousands listen to Aristide's every word and Aristide did not tell them to stop protesting when they removed him. Wyclef is the establishment's new puppet to get the people to forget about Aristide, and it might work, and with extra US help it might make people forget. But in reality, the democratically elected leader should be established in his country, or at the very least allowed to return to help with the recovery. You claim intimidation and death squads, but none were ever found or use. In reality Aristide talked against them during the Baby Doc reign, and within months, not years, Aristide was gone. Wyclef is a puppet, and it's sickening to see it happen like this.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Fraxxx on August 02, 2010, 12:20:59 PM
Jean-Bertrand Aristide is getting shitted on again. Wyclef should be trying to support bringing this man back into his country. The military over threw him once, and Bush Jr.the second and his never allowed to return to his country. He was a Catholic priest and he tried so hard to rebuild Haiti, but he pissed off the elite and they paid for the military to get rid of him. Wyclef should be trying to restore Aristide to power, not filling his ego.

Needless to say that the Haitian elite, the US government and the IMF had their hand into this. But Aristide turned out nothing better than any other despot, relying on intimidation and death squads. And of course he came back, he had a second term in office. Overall, it's a difficult topic. I found this http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n08/paul-farmer/who-removed-aristide article which I think is worth reading, as well as the letters to it.


Explain to me when Aristide had death squads in his first term, since it only lasted 7 months!! I mean, if his using intimidation to stay in power, it failed bad. On the subject of that article, you said I should read it, and when I did I get a one sided argument that never said anything on death squads. It talks about left wing politics and how the middle class and elite hate him, which is true. But in a democracy, you have to do for the majority, and the majority is poor. Wyclef is already came out again Aristide in the past, saying he should be removed because hundreds of thousands listen to Aristide's every word and Aristide did not tell them to stop protesting when they removed him. Wyclef is the establishment's new puppet to get the people to forget about Aristide, and it might work, and with extra US help it might make people forget. But in reality, the democratically elected leader should be established in his country, or at the very least allowed to return to help with the recovery. You claim intimidation and death squads, but none were ever found or use. In reality Aristide talked against them during the Baby Doc reign, and within months, not years, Aristide was gone. Wyclef is a puppet, and it's sickening to see it happen like this.

My bad, regarding the death squads, I meant his second term but didn't make it clear. I read about this more than once, not even mainstream media and I don't think it's too far-fetched.
As for Wyclef, I don't know, Didn't read much on the topic until now. What makes you think he's the establishment's puppet other than expressing an opinion in the past that is not yours or mine?
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 02, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
yeah thats crazy, m dogg, you really think clef is an establishment puppet, when the establishment started hating on him by spreading misinformation through the media because his charity won't play the western establishment politricks charity 'game'
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 02, 2010, 02:51:11 PM
From what I've seen, and talk to from people on the ground in Haiti during the Aristide over throwing, these death squads were none existance, even in the second term. He used more strong arm tactics in the second term to protect his presidency, but he never had death squads. My sources come from people in Haiti during this time, I talked to people who were covering the Haiti rebellion, and were filming a documentry, Haiti and the Endless Revolution. They said that when the news showed the 2,000 protesting to over throw Aristide, that behide them was over 200,000 protesting to keep Aristide in power.

Is Wyclef a puppet, think about this, when any politican looks for a Hip-Hop artist to say, hey, I listen to hip-hop, they all say Wyclef. From John Kerry to Bill Clinton, everyone but Obama says Wyclef. On top of that, isn't it weird that now out of no where, Wyclef wants to run Haiti when he hasn't lived in Haiti. Now that Haiti is weakened, now that Haiti is desperate, Wyclef wants to run it. Of course he has no governing experience and he can't even run his charities, BUT he now wants to run his former home country. Unless he knows he has help, he wouldn't and shouldn't do it. Wyclef is up to something, as the establishment's favorite Hip-Hop artist is now ready to lead a country. This has puppet written all over it.

http://sfbayview.com/2010/wyclef-jean-for-president-of-haiti-look-beyond-the-hype/
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Arkan al-Turani on August 02, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Best of luck to him, he just might need it.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 03, 2010, 04:08:57 AM
From what I've seen, and talk to from people on the ground in Haiti during the Aristide over throwing, these death squads were none existance, even in the second term. He used more strong arm tactics in the second term to protect his presidency, but he never had death squads. My sources come from people in Haiti during this time, I talked to people who were covering the Haiti rebellion, and were filming a documentry, Haiti and the Endless Revolution. They said that when the news showed the 2,000 protesting to over throw Aristide, that behide them was over 200,000 protesting to keep Aristide in power.

Is Wyclef a puppet, think about this, when any politican looks for a Hip-Hop artist to say, hey, I listen to hip-hop, they all say Wyclef. From John Kerry to Bill Clinton, everyone but Obama says Wyclef. On top of that, isn't it weird that now out of no where, Wyclef wants to run Haiti when he hasn't lived in Haiti. Now that Haiti is weakened, now that Haiti is desperate, Wyclef wants to run it. Of course he has no governing experience and he can't even run his charities, BUT he now wants to run his former home country. Unless he knows he has help, he wouldn't and shouldn't do it. Wyclef is up to something, as the establishment's favorite Hip-Hop artist is now ready to lead a country. This has puppet written all over it.

http://sfbayview.com/2010/wyclef-jean-for-president-of-haiti-look-beyond-the-hype/

i think your reading too much into certain things and mixing certain shit up fam

bill clinton & obama are both part of the system, they have both made there whole political career based on conmanship and pimping certain communities to look cool to get votes

bill clinton gave a pardon to a scientist called robert gallo(who worked on the US goverment's Special Cancer Virus Program that produced the AIDS virus in the 70's) from prosecution for making the AIDS virus after Boyd Graves took the US goverment to court for the creation of AIDS in 1998, plus clinton's is alledgedly the illegitimate child of one of the rockefellers

obama was on the council of foreign relations, you can't get anymore system representative than that, plus he got the same bloodlines as most system mudda fockers and he has shares in a pharmecuetical company that has a history of eugenics going back to the 40's amongst other things

john kerry is just a shook mainstream politician that dosen't want to go against the system and likes to beat around the bush and let the status quo remain because he's weak, the senate hearings on the contra/iran arms affair in the 80's and his dilly dallying on standing up for his values, back peddling to look so called harder to get votes, compromising his values over that vietnam atrocities shit has shown this

what these politicians listen to or champion in music does not have a bearing on reality when it comes to who they think is a puppet, clef just rolls in those type of circles, because of his charity work

its because of his genuine charity work and not playing the charity politricks 'game' that the system switched on him and started putting out misinformation throught the media, he has genunie love for brothers and sisters over there and thats why he was out there on the frontlines helping our people through the earthquake and seeing all the system instigated redtape and politricks that he decided to run for president

clef is in the endz(hoods), everywhere he goes, he shows that love, from the hoods of the US, to london, to ghana, to ja, he shows that love, truss me on that, clef ain't a puppet, no he ain't fam 
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 03, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
I'm not just talking about what music politicians listen to. After all, the only reason Obama even said other artist than Wyclef is because he has to show the black community he actually listens to Hip-Hop music, or if he was some white guy he'd just stick to Wyclef like every other politician.

What I'm talking about is how a person who can barely run a charity, who has no governing experience now wants to run a country he hasn't lived in for over 25 years, when that countries at it's weakest. Especially when that country has an exiled ELECTED president in Africa who was overthrown by the countries elite. you claim death squads and intimidation by Aristide, but that has been unfound, even in the second term. If and no true reliable source has mentioned death squads, but if he did try intimidation because he was fearful of being overthrown again, well it didn't work. Since 2004, Haiti has been until under ring wing military control, don't let those elections fool you. The majority of the people are for the Lavalas party, which has been excluded from elections since Aristide being overthrown. That's like not allowing the Democrats or Republicans to run for office.

My beef with Wyclef is that he should be trying to political stability, he should be asking for Aristide to return, and the leaders of Haiti to come together. Instead, with no governing experience, he wants to run the country. Wyclef is as qualified to be president as I am. He has celebrity that others in the world will like, and that's it. He will be like the Arnold of presidents, and we all know Arnold is a part of the establishment. Wyclef is showing his no different. It's like Obama, what started out as a truly honest career has turned because they sold out, thinking they can change the system from within. Like Obama though, Wyclef will learn you can't change the system, the system will ultimately use you, and once it's done, crucify you in the press.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 03, 2010, 11:31:48 AM
I'm not just talking about what music politicians listen to. After all, the only reason Obama even said other artist than Wyclef is because he has to show the black community he actually listens to Hip-Hop music, or if he was some white guy he'd just stick to Wyclef like every other politician.

What I'm talking about is how a person who can barely run a charity, who has no governing experience now wants to run a country he hasn't lived in for over 25 years, when that countries at it's weakest. Especially when that country has an exiled ELECTED president in Africa who was overthrown by the countries elite. you claim death squads and intimidation by Aristide, but that has been unfound, even in the second term. If and no true reliable source has mentioned death squads, but if he did try intimidation because he was fearful of being overthrown again, well it didn't work. Since 2004, Haiti has been until under ring wing military control, don't let those elections fool you. The majority of the people are for the Lavalas party, which has been excluded from elections since Aristide being overthrown. That's like not allowing the Democrats or Republicans to run for office.

My beef with Wyclef is that he should be trying to political stability, he should be asking for Aristide to return, and the leaders of Haiti to come together. Instead, with no governing experience, he wants to run the country. Wyclef is as qualified to be president as I am. He has celebrity that others in the world will like, and that's it. He will be like the Arnold of presidents, and we all know Arnold is a part of the establishment. Wyclef is showing his no different. It's like Obama, what started out as a truly honest career has turned because they sold out, thinking they can change the system from within. Like Obama though, Wyclef will learn you can't change the system, the system will ultimately use you, and once it's done, crucify you in the press.

1.our cut an paste sumthin from another website i posted this same thread on, instead of typing the same shit

"the whole qualification bullshit, george w bush went to university, that dosen't take away from the fact that he is a duppy, slow, ignorant piece of shit

its about basic common sense, its not always all about academic qualifications, even if it would be better if he had some in certain regards to certain aspects, but you can be academically bright, but common sense stupid, or have a lot of wisdom and deep wit your shit, but have no academic qualifications, you get what i'm saying, personal experience in life has always shown me this

and i'm not knocking education in anyway, shape, form or fashion, because education is the key to any successful civilazation, truss me on that, thats why the system historically has kept human being community's they don't like, from acheiving academic success, to keep there grips on power so they can carry out there imperialist goals and agenda, you get what i'm saying

clef has the street smarts and common sense to know he's gonna get him an advisor that will advise him on who should go in which position and do what, you see what i'm saying, no political tribal politricks or system puppet master stuff, he has he's own money, no greed and a genuine love for all his and our people over there, yes he does, he's the perfect person for the job in my eyes, thats the way i see it anyway"

2.again fam, your believing the system instigated misinformation fed through the western media about clef's charity organization, they switched on his charity because of the exact reason that clef is authentically, genuinely 100% for our people over there, he isn't into playing the system's charity 'game' politricks, you see what i'm saying

3.obama has been obama from day one, he hasen't sold out at all, he has always been on the side of the system, he has always had a public image of an concilliator, he's not a revolutionary, he ain't a radical, he ain't a civil rights guy, he ain't about progressive change, he's an centrist mainstream politician thats deeply entrenched wit the system, its simple as, he's always rolled like that, he's speeches are just on some conman level because thats what he is, a conman
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 03, 2010, 07:00:06 PM
LOL M dogg fucking idiot. Maybe he believe haiti tragedy was caused by elite so wyclef can be president so they control haiti. Dumb faggot ah ah ah

When the hell did I say the earthquake was caused by elites.

I said that they should bring back the ELECTED president of Haiti, who was thrown out of power by a United States backed military coup.

I said that in the rebuilding, when there are people asking for Aristide's leadership, the elite are instead looking for Wyclef to distract the people.

I said Wyclef has no governing experience so how in the world can he lead a nation in it's worst crisis in it's history, and for Haiti that's saying something.

As for LONDON!, your points

1. THe whole qualifications is not bull shit. Education may not be needed, but at the same time, we are not talking about Jesse Ventura taking over a healthy Minnesota, or a Ronald Reagan, who majored in Economics btw, trying to revive the United States economy, this is Wyclef, a musician, trying to revive Haiti during it's worst crisis it's ever had. Aristide was not experienced either, but he was an outspoken voice behind the alter as a catholic priest during the Duvalier reign. Aristide was on the ground, helping the people, Wyclef has lived in the US, visiting Haiti and giving money, but not getting involved politically.

2. His charity, to his credit, is not as bad as many others. But it was put out there in the media because there was some faultiness going on. The media acts in two ways, all of it for ratings and their bottomline. They either act to get the biggest story, outside of any other "system's" agenda because they know people will watch, then they put out bullshit that's feed to them because it's suppose to be credible news. In this case, Wyclef made for the biggest story outside of any "system". I don't know about the UK, but in the US, the story died fairly quick after it came out, and then every journalist in the mainstream came out defending Wyclef, almost like a cover up.

3. Obama was Obama since day one, now his something else. I know many of people from Chicago, I live in the Mid West and many people from Chicago move out here all the time. Close friends have told me that Obama use to be in the neighborhood all the time, and he was truly genuine about his work. He worked at getting people organized, and advocating for those with no voice. If you heard him talk, he was talking single payer health care, he was talking about modern civil rights, he was talking like a classic liberal. Fast forward to his time as State Senator, his talking the same, but his working to get things passed in a political manner. This becomes his biggest argument to run for senator.

Then, fast forward to 2004, out of no where this little know State Senator who couldn't even win a primary in 2000 is now being talked about as the next president of the United States. I mean, he can't even beat Bobby Rush, there is no way an establishment candidate has that happened to them. Reality, Obama is trying to work out a way that he can make change, but from within the system. Fast forward to 2010, Obama has not made that big change, but a bunch of little changes that go against the system. This is over looked because it's not the change we expected, we wanted more. But for even this little change, Obama is now the Velcro president, everything bad that happens sticks to him in the media. He wouldn't be president after 2012, enjoy your Sarah Palin administration.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 04, 2010, 05:11:47 AM
LOL M dogg fucking idiot. Maybe he believe haiti tragedy was caused by elite so wyclef can be president so they control haiti. Dumb faggot ah ah ah

When the hell did I say the earthquake was caused by elites.

I said that they should bring back the ELECTED president of Haiti, who was thrown out of power by a United States backed military coup.

I said that in the rebuilding, when there are people asking for Aristide's leadership, the elite are instead looking for Wyclef to distract the people.

I said Wyclef has no governing experience so how in the world can he lead a nation in it's worst crisis in it's history, and for Haiti that's saying something.

As for LONDON!, your points

1. THe whole qualifications is not bull shit. Education may not be needed, but at the same time, we are not talking about Jesse Ventura taking over a healthy Minnesota, or a Ronald Reagan, who majored in Economics btw, trying to revive the United States economy, this is Wyclef, a musician, trying to revive Haiti during it's worst crisis it's ever had. Aristide was not experienced either, but he was an outspoken voice behind the alter as a catholic priest during the Duvalier reign. Aristide was on the ground, helping the people, Wyclef has lived in the US, visiting Haiti and giving money, but not getting involved politically.

2. His charity, to his credit, is not as bad as many others. But it was put out there in the media because there was some faultiness going on. The media acts in two ways, all of it for ratings and their bottomline. They either act to get the biggest story, outside of any other "system's" agenda because they know people will watch, then they put out bullshit that's feed to them because it's suppose to be credible news. In this case, Wyclef made for the biggest story outside of any "system". I don't know about the UK, but in the US, the story died fairly quick after it came out, and then every journalist in the mainstream came out defending Wyclef, almost like a cover up.

3. Obama was Obama since day one, now his something else. I know many of people from Chicago, I live in the Mid West and many people from Chicago move out here all the time. Close friends have told me that Obama use to be in the neighborhood all the time, and he was truly genuine about his work. He worked at getting people organized, and advocating for those with no voice. If you heard him talk, he was talking single payer health care, he was talking about modern civil rights, he was talking like a classic liberal. Fast forward to his time as State Senator, his talking the same, but his working to get things passed in a political manner. This becomes his biggest argument to run for senator.

Then, fast forward to 2004, out of no where this little know State Senator who couldn't even win a primary in 2000 is now being talked about as the next president of the United States. I mean, he can't even beat Bobby Rush, there is no way an establishment candidate has that happened to them. Reality, Obama is trying to work out a way that he can make change, but from within the system. Fast forward to 2010, Obama has not made that big change, but a bunch of little changes that go against the system. This is over looked because it's not the change we expected, we wanted more. But for even this little change, Obama is now the Velcro president, everything bad that happens sticks to him in the media. He wouldn't be president after 2012, enjoy your Sarah Palin administration.

will just have to agree to disagree fam, because will going around in circles

and i'm by no means an advocate for sarah palin, she's a right wing ignorant duppy fruitcake, yes she is, even though she's not apart of the establishment, she would be another disaster, worse than bush

obama is wholeheartedly apart of the system, he always has been, i mean george w bush has charity's, it what he's movement in power in power that determines what type of person he is and obama's movements is that of a centrist, mainstream establishment politician, entrenced wit the system, wit a public image of an concilliator who makes nice conman speeches, thats obama from day one up until now, nuthin has changed, the trying to provide free healthcare for all issue was only championed by him because his mother died because of his family growing up poor and not being able to get better treatment, if it wern't for that, he wouldn't give two shits about healthcare 
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 04, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 04, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.

other than thinking that the earthquake was engineered, have I not been saying that. Of course I want Aristide put back into power, so we might differ on that, but we are not too far off. Well other than thinking earthquake was man made.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 04, 2010, 02:42:20 PM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.

i too believe the earthquake was man made engineered by US goverment's weather system weapon called HARRP(google it people, it exists), but its the same devillish creatures that were behind that shit that put out that misinformation fed through the western media because clef was on the frontlines out in haiti genuinely helping our people there when that man made earthquake popped off, not playing the goofy system politricks charity 'game', fuck the system and fuck the next anti-christ, obama and rest in peace to all my brothers and sisters that lost there lives in that man made atrocity in haiti and big up wyclef, salute
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Arkan al-Turani on August 04, 2010, 03:55:10 PM
Some of yall talking bout he is being purposely put there might be onto something tho, for a long time now the Western powers have kept a close eye on Haiti and have had a particular interest in maintaining a high level of influence there, usually through their own agents high up in the government.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 04, 2010, 09:52:22 PM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.

other than thinking that the earthquake was engineered, have I not been saying that. Of course I want Aristide put back into power, so we might differ on that, but we are not too far off. Well other than thinking earthquake was man made.

Well all I can say is to take a step back and try and connect the dots.  The technology is real...do you deny that?  Do you think it is too far fetched and sci-fi?  Or do you think it is too sinister to actually happen?  I'm curious.

I'll dig up my post from months ago, because all of the tell-tale signs were there, and now is more evidence of what I said... 
Why was this particular tragic event so QUICKLY capitalized on and so extremely coordinated? 
How quick was Bush and Clinton down there doing photo ops? 
how quick was the BULLSHIT Red Cross telling you to text donation pledges?
How quick was our military there? 
Why were our armed forces running drills for this type of things literally just days before this occurred down in south florida? 
Why was a pedo ring down there rounding up children during the chaos (thank God they were busted)? 
And why now is an AMERICAN CROOKED CELEBRITY being pushed to be President down there?

These circumstance are NOT mere coincidence. 

lol the whole relief effort is an excuse to occupy Haiti militarily, politically, and financially.

Southcom in Miami was doing a drill for a relief effort to Haiti the day before the quake hit.

Hugo Chavez said that the US used a weather weapon on Haiti.

Kinda funny how a quake like this hits Chile and the effects are felt all over the globe, and yet a quake hits Haiti and yet doesn't effect surrounding areas at all. :rubeyes:
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 05, 2010, 01:57:53 AM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.

other than thinking that the earthquake was engineered, have I not been saying that. Of course I want Aristide put back into power, so we might differ on that, but we are not too far off. Well other than thinking earthquake was man made.

Well all I can say is to take a step back and try and connect the dots.  The technology is real...do you deny that?  Do you think it is too far fetched and sci-fi?  Or do you think it is too sinister to actually happen?  I'm curious.

I'll dig up my post from months ago, because all of the tell-tale signs were there, and now is more evidence of what I said... 
Why was this particular tragic event so QUICKLY capitalized on and so extremely coordinated? 
How quick was Bush and Clinton down there doing photo ops? 
how quick was the BULLSHIT Red Cross telling you to text donation pledges?
How quick was our military there? 
Why were our armed forces running drills for this type of things literally just days before this occurred down in south florida? 
Why was a pedo ring down there rounding up children during the chaos (thank God they were busted)? 
And why now is an AMERICAN CROOKED CELEBRITY being pushed to be President down there?

These circumstance are NOT mere coincidence. 

lol the whole relief effort is an excuse to occupy Haiti militarily, politically, and financially.

Southcom in Miami was doing a drill for a relief effort to Haiti the day before the quake hit.

Hugo Chavez said that the US used a weather weapon on Haiti.

Kinda funny how a quake like this hits Chile and the effects are felt all over the globe, and yet a quake hits Haiti and yet doesn't effect surrounding areas at all. :rubeyes:

your talking the truth a-alike, spreech brothaman, other than clef being a stooge of the system, your talking 100% facts, true story

the western political elite loved clef before the man made earthquake to look cool to get votes or whatever, but when the earthquake popped off, they switched on him because his charity wasn't playing the system's charity politricks 'game' and put out misinformation on him fed through the western media, truss me on this fam, clef is on a level, yes he is
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 05, 2010, 05:16:03 AM
This dirty motherfuck was busted stealing donations from his charity, which is the purpose of all major charitable orgs, yall read up on that.  As I said back months ago, the Haiti earthquake was engineered and used as a political and military ploy for the psychos that have been fucking the human race for eons. Now they install this scumbag as a political leader down there. And motherfuckers happily eat this shit up cuz he's a a goddamn celebrity. This is n9t a good thing, this a fucking coup and a travesty to haitian people.

other than thinking that the earthquake was engineered, have I not been saying that. Of course I want Aristide put back into power, so we might differ on that, but we are not too far off. Well other than thinking earthquake was man made.

Well all I can say is to take a step back and try and connect the dots.  The technology is real...do you deny that?  Do you think it is too far fetched and sci-fi?  Or do you think it is too sinister to actually happen?  I'm curious.

I'll dig up my post from months ago, because all of the tell-tale signs were there, and now is more evidence of what I said... 
Why was this particular tragic event so QUICKLY capitalized on and so extremely coordinated? 
How quick was Bush and Clinton down there doing photo ops? 
how quick was the BULLSHIT Red Cross telling you to text donation pledges?
How quick was our military there? 
Why were our armed forces running drills for this type of things literally just days before this occurred down in south florida? 
Why was a pedo ring down there rounding up children during the chaos (thank God they were busted)? 
And why now is an AMERICAN CROOKED CELEBRITY being pushed to be President down there?

These circumstance are NOT mere coincidence. 

lol the whole relief effort is an excuse to occupy Haiti militarily, politically, and financially.

Southcom in Miami was doing a drill for a relief effort to Haiti the day before the quake hit.

Hugo Chavez said that the US used a weather weapon on Haiti.

Kinda funny how a quake like this hits Chile and the effects are felt all over the globe, and yet a quake hits Haiti and yet doesn't effect surrounding areas at all. :rubeyes:

your talking the truth a-alike, spreech brothaman, other than clef being a stooge of the system, your talking 100% facts, true story

the western political elite loved clef before the man made earthquake to look cool to get votes or whatever, but when the earthquake popped off, they switched on him because his charity wasn't playing the system's charity politricks 'game' and put out misinformation on him fed through the western media, truss me on this fam, clef is on a level, yes he is

'Clef is not on the level. He hasn't been for at least 6 years, if not longer. 'Clef is a puppet. If 'Clef was really on the level, he'd be trying to get the REAL president back in power of Haiti. He don't even meet constitutional requirements to be president. According to the Haitian constitution...

Quote
ARTICLE 135:
To be elected President of the Republic of Haiti, a candidate must:

a. Be a native-born Haitian and never have renounced Haitian nationality;

b. Have attained thirty-five (35) years of age by the election day;

c. Enjoy civil and political rights and never have been sentenced to death, personal restraint or penal servitude or the loss of civil rights for a crime of ordinary law;

d. Be the owner in Haiti of at least one real property and have his habitual residence in the country;

e. Have resided in the country for five (5) consecutive years before the date of the elections;

f. Have been relieved of this responsibilities if he has been handling public funds.

There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.


Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2010, 06:03:56 AM
so how long before the elections then?
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: virtuoso on August 07, 2010, 07:17:42 AM

The major warning sign should be Time magazine running a feature on Wyclef running for president. This is the same time magazine who have lourded over some of the most evil and brutal dictators from South America. So what this tells me without knowing anything else, about what his so called ideology is, is that Wyclef is certainly in the cosey club. If he really was running as some kind of maverick then you can be damn sure the mainstream media would not have touched him with a barge pole.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 08, 2010, 04:07:55 AM

The major warning sign should be Time magazine running a feature on Wyclef running for president. This is the same time magazine who have lourded over some of the most evil and brutal dictators from South America. So what this tells me without knowing anything else, about what his so called ideology is, is that Wyclef is certainly in the cosey club. If he really was running as some kind of maverick then you can be damn sure the mainstream media would not have touched him with a barge pole.

i can see the angle your coming at, but the system put out misinformation about clef's charity after clef didn't play the system politricks charity 'game' during the earthquake plus all of a sudden after he announced his running for the presidency, the irs is now on his back, so i wouldn't put too much into that, clef is for his people first and is on a level, truss me on that

theirs another candidate thats called michel martelly thats 100% on a level too, whose also running, so long as its one of these two winning, i think it would be a good look for haiti, yes i do
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Muhfukka on August 08, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
if you had read some of my blogs(which i ain't into at all, unless its one of those free d/l music ones, i mean i've got a life, but its a free fucking world, yes it is, so i ain't hating, because i ain't a hater, i've got a life, even though those other blogs are done by bougie nerds wit big mouths behind computer screens a million miles away in secret locations, wit too much time on there hands) i was forced to do back in the day because of unanamed sex offenders trying it wit me and my famo from secret identity's behind secret locations, which i only did because at the time i thought it was mostly industry mudda fockers and i thought if i shame them on a public underground, make em lose fans, customers, flop there money, kick food out of there mouths publicly, even on a undergound level, they would front for the public and bring it to man on the streets, you get what i'm saying, i don't have to elaborate and if you had checked them back then, then you would know certain names were on there, some warranted even to this day, but most were on some goofy shit, like i was just running wit whatever name popped in my head that the sex offending voices sounded remotely like to me, witout being technical and being more professional wit it like i do now, because i don't play games when it comes to the protection of my family from poom poom pussy sex offender, weakheart, insect worm, piece of pussy, nasty vermin, sex offender's, you get what i'm saying, because if it ain't you, then that person would have nuthin to worry about and have a life and bills and wouldn't have time to worry about blogs or websites if it ain't them, i'd see it the same way if it was on the other way and the shoe was on the other foot, its probably gonna turn out to be a bunch of crackheads, brownheads and coke freaks wit a few entertainment heads in the mix aswell, you get me

but my point is, putting certain heads on there over flimsy shit at that time, wern't smart or technical or productive, it was just i really wanted to get my hands on whoever it was and do some serious damage to them, you get what i'm saying, they are hardcore sex offenders, pure and simple, rapist, paedophilles, peeping toms, voyeurs, stalkers, rejected repulsive gay groupies, rejected repulsive, skin crawlinly vomit inducing, revoulting and creepy like a faggot, nonce(paedophille) bitches, who have major, serious, severe, warped out, goofy, mental, creepy, disturbing, nasty, repulsive, sexual perv problems, typical sex offenders that can't get sex in an appropiate fashion that can't take rejection and don't know when to stop, no matter how much these chump pussy perverts get exposed in public, so i had to protect my famo and the public from these coward, no shame, no pride, no dignity, pussy little scumbag pervs, you see what i'm saying, by any means necessary, my famo and innocent public that mind there own bizness and think about who they know only are more important than them, yes they are, in every capacity

so i won't disrepect certain human beings wit naming previous names that was put onto that list goofyly and embarrasinly, looking back now and lower them or put them on the same level as these sex offender piece of shits, all i'm gonna say is wyclef is a decent brother, thats got genuine love worldwide and who does a lot for the community and always shows love to the hoods worldwide wherever he goes andv touch's down, he's for the hood, truss me on that and for that brother to be the president of haiti, which it looks likely like its gonna be, then thats just a beautiful thing because for the first time ever, other than hugo chavez and other a-alikes like him throughout history, for the first time other than those type of brothers and sisters, its the first time that we're gonna get someone from our generation, one of our kind, from our community, in power, no fake, anti-christ illumati good conman barack obama bizness, you get what i'm saying, wit the mandate to do genuine good, i just hope they don't try to assasinate that brother or sumthin you know, for real like, you get me, i'm proud of that brother, because i would have loved to be the president of my parents birthplace, z(zambia in southern africa), but the rules there right now don't allow it and i know if i tried to carry out my agenda there, i would get assassinated asap, no questions asked, so big up wyclef for carrying that foot forward and representing, if he gets elected it will be a very proud day for hip hop and for our human being's thats on a level community worldwide, full stop, you get what i'm saying, wyclef, salute, salute, salute, 21 gun salute to that brother, my people, salute, big up, salute cuzzy



hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 08, 2010, 09:49:54 PM

There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.




He grew up in Haiti. He can run under the constitution.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 09, 2010, 05:18:41 AM

There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.




He grew up in Haiti. He can run under the constitution.

He hasn't lived in Haiti the last 30 years, he can't run under's Haiti's constitution. Look it up.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 09, 2010, 06:37:12 AM
@m dogg
what do you think about michel martelly?

and clef has been going back and forth between haiti since he was born there before the earthquake, but yeah, constitutionaly he can't stand because of the rule that you have to have lived there five years consecutively if you want to run for the presidency, but clef was haiti's worldwide roving ambassador so i think he will still be able to run still you know
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 09, 2010, 07:16:40 AM

There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.




He grew up in Haiti. He can run under the constitution.

He hasn't lived in Haiti the last 30 years, he can't run under's Haiti's constitution. Look it up.

And this is a requirement where?
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 09, 2010, 11:02:34 AM

There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.




He grew up in Haiti. He can run under the constitution.

He hasn't lived in Haiti the last 30 years, he can't run under's Haiti's constitution. Look it up.

And this is a requirement where?

Haiti's constitution. It was designed to prevent Haitians from making money in the US, only to comeback to Haiti and then become president. Sound familiar. Here, Article 135 of the constitution

 http://pdba.georgetown.edu/constitutions/haiti/haiti1987.html

@m dogg
what do you think about michel martelly?

and clef has been going back and forth between haiti since he was born there before the earthquake, but yeah, constitutionaly he can't stand because of the rule that you have to have lived there five years consecutively if you want to run for the presidency, but clef was haiti's worldwide roving ambassador so i think he will still be able to run still you know

He will be the Barack Obama of Haiti if elected. Loved on the streets, never makes that change he promises.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 09, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
There's nothing there about having to have lived in Haiti for the last 30 years
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 09, 2010, 01:20:04 PM
There's nothing there about having to have lived in Haiti for the last 30 years

let me spell this out for you.

In order to be president in Haiti, you have to have lived there at least 5 years before the election. That means from 2005-2010, Wyclef had to have lived as a full time resident in Haiti. For at least the last 30 years, meaning 1980-2010, Wyclef has lived in the United States, in New Jersey. Meaning he has not lived in Haiti for the last 5 years, 2005-2010. He visits Haiti, but never set up a permanent residency in Haiti, his full time home has been New Jersey. Meaning according to the constitution of Haiti, he is not eligible to be president of Haiti. He filed papers, but the representative branch of the government of Haiti is expected to block his candidacy because of this fact.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 09, 2010, 02:15:21 PM
@m dogg

obama is a system controlled conman puppet, are you saying that western corporate interests control michel martelly?

because you seem to know a lot and seem to be up on haitian politics, because michel dosen't seem like a puppet to me
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 09, 2010, 02:41:57 PM
@m dogg

obama is a system controlled conman puppet, are you saying that western corporate interests control michel martelly?

because you seem to know a lot and seem to be up on haitian politics, because michel dosen't seem like a puppet to me

He doesn't seem like a puppet, but as you know I was a strong supporter of Obama and so far I am seeing him trying to navigate the worlds of both the supporters he had and trying to not step on the establishment's toes, and I fear that might be Martelly's fate as well. I have no reason so far to believe though that Martelly is a puppet, so I will have to keep an eye on him.

I only got into Haitian politics 5 years ago, when I took a Latin American history class. We had a visiting professor who was genius, his name is Dennis Hildago, and he knew Latin American politics in and out. At the same time, people were protesting Aristide getting over thrown, and I decided to go see some film makers who were documenting the protest in Haiti. They had footage that was not seen in the US, or even actually released documentaries because no one wanted to touch it from a pro-Aristide point of view. When it came time for the final project in our Latin American history class, my group drew Haiti, so it gave me a chance to study Haiti's past, and instead of going into the depths of Haiti's past like my group wanted, I insisted we go into Haiti since Baby Doc got overthrown, and the struggle to keep Aristide and the democracy in power. I was truly into it, and I still follow Haitian politics to this day. We got an A in the class and the project, the professor was truly impressed and I learned so much about finding alternative news sources since the Times, Newsweek and all the other news sources in our library made Aristide to be a bad man. Looking at that footage though, talking to the people that were actually there, and finding actual Haitian news sources showed that Haiti had a strong distrust of the US, outsiders. Since the election of Obama though, Haiti has a positive attitude to the US, and since the earthquake, much has change, some even asking to be a US territory. It is this weakness in Haiti that I fear Haiti will lose it's independence and in turn it will lose it's financial independence, and maybe be like Costa Rica and forever be dependent on the US. Costa Rica once made it's own food, and then over time the US shipped "aid" in the form of cheap rice. Since then the people stopped buying local food, and farmers went out of business in Costa Rica. Now, unable to provide it's self with food, Costa Rica is forever depended on the US. Is it any wonder it was part of the Nations of the Willing during the Iraq War. Haiti will share the same fate.
Title: Re: Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
Post by: LONDON!! on August 09, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
@m dogg

obama is a system controlled conman puppet, are you saying that western corporate interests control michel martelly?

because you seem to know a lot and seem to be up on haitian politics, because michel dosen't seem like a puppet to me

He doesn't seem like a puppet, but as you know I was a strong supporter of Obama and so far I am seeing him trying to navigate the worlds of both the supporters he had and trying to not step on the establishment's toes, and I fear that might be Martelly's fate as well. I have no reason so far to believe though that Martelly is a puppet, so I will have to keep an eye on him.

I only got into Haitian politics 5 years ago, when I took a Latin American history class. We had a visiting professor who was genius, his name is Dennis Hildago, and he knew Latin American politics in and out. At the same time, people were protesting Aristide getting over thrown, and I decided to go see some film makers who were documenting the protest in Haiti. They had footage that was not seen in the US, or even actually released documentaries because no one wanted to touch it from a pro-Aristide point of view. When it came time for the final project in our Latin American history class, my group drew Haiti, so it gave me a chance to study Haiti's past, and instead of going into the depths of Haiti's past like my group wanted, I insisted we go into Haiti since Baby Doc got overthrown, and the struggle to keep Aristide and the democracy in power. I was truly into it, and I still follow Haitian politics to this day. We got an A in the class and the project, the professor was truly impressed and I learned so much about finding alternative news sources since the Times, Newsweek and all the other news sources in our library made Aristide to be a bad man. Looking at that footage though, talking to the people that were actually there, and finding actual Haitian news sources showed that Haiti had a strong distrust of the US, outsiders. Since the election of Obama though, Haiti has a positive attitude to the US, and since the earthquake, much has change, some even asking to be a US territory. It is this weakness in Haiti that I fear Haiti will lose it's independence and in turn it will lose it's financial independence, and maybe be like Costa Rica and forever be dependent on the US. Costa Rica once made it's own food, and then over time the US shipped "aid" in the form of cheap rice. Since then the people stopped buying local food, and farmers went out of business in Costa Rica. Now, unable to provide it's self with food, Costa Rica is forever depended on the US. Is it any wonder it was part of the Nations of the Willing during the Iraq War. Haiti will share the same fate.

yeah i can't front, obama conned me aswell, he had me fooled supporting him too, even though i knew deep down his record and some of his ties despite those slick, conman speeches, despite those speeches before he got elected, i still knew deep down his record and ties didn't add up to his speeches but i wanted to believe what he was saying and hope for the best, but he's proved to me he's even worst than what i expected, he's deeply entrenched in and is a part of the system, wholeheartedly

but yeah, i love learning diffrent history's of our people, throughout the world, from the african & latino dispora in africa, carribean, south and central america and every other community on this planet too, worldwide, full stop, history is a beautiful thing, if you know your history, human beings will know were there going in life, thats the way i see it

i flopped in high school, i didn't get any qualifications, so i need to do a access course that will allow me to do a degree course at uni, to get better qualifications to get a higher paying job, because originally i wanted to do a law degree, but i was advised that i would be too old onced i completed the degree because i'm 31 now and i wouldn't be able to get a lawyer job, so i'm gonna do a social humanties access course that will include history, which i'm looking forward to doing, then our do a degree(i haven't decided which one yet) that will allow me to be a social worker, its a good job and its a better paid job than miminum wage, because i would like to go into real estate worldwide and raise enough capital to get my pan africanist projects on and poppin, you get what i'm saying fam, that history course you did sounded like it was big

props for putting me up on game cuzzy, salute fam