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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on August 12, 2010, 10:17:10 PM
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That's sad, how is that possible?...he fell off hard
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He's actually gotten progressively better with the last three albums.
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He's actually gotten progressively better with the last three albums.
Agreed. I'm really enjoying "Recovery".
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He's actually gotten progressively better with the last three albums.
True. But all still "bad" albums..
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I agree, although I don't mind Recovery, i still think The Eminem Show was his best.
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If every album in mainstream was bad as eminem's,hip hop would be in much better place. but we got what we got.
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im gonna create a topic aswell that has a ridiculous statement to get people into my thread too.
this thread looks like it belongs on sohh.
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im gonna create a topic aswell that has a ridiculous statement to get people into my thread too.
this thread looks like it belongs on sohh.
Exactly. Why not find the original discussion thread and make your feelings known there.
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Tes bein his best album period? Still dont make sense y he released recovery so close 2 relapse...thats the closest hes released 2 albums together? I mean was anyone expectin 2 em albums that quick? All albums had some bangers but imo encore might b his most meaningful album imo altho relapse had alot of cryin
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Encore is the shit! snuff a barrel if you don't see the brilliance.
Recovery is great marketing. I've never seen a hip-hop artist turn face that quick on his work just to appease his fan base. It worked too. Yeah, Relapse was all over the map and missed several scores with too much poor joke-esque material but it wasn't the tremendous piece of shit he's made it out to be. Shit even someone like 50 who's all about dollars hadn't jumped ship on his own material to win back fans. Recovery is a great album as a reflection to devotion to fame. Half of the album is him pleading to his fan base & hip-hop related community and other half is some minor inspection of his life. Either way I like about half of it.
Alas, numbers count and Eminem is king supreme to this.
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Encore had a handful of good tracks but overall was a poor effort, Relapse we don't even need to discuss again how wack the accent was on almost every song, and Recovery is not a hip hop album it is a pop album (that I can say is decent for what it is, better than Drake's)
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had a spark when you started but now u just garbage
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Encore had a handful of good tracks but overall was a poor effort, Relapse we don't even need to discuss again how wack the accent was on almost every song, and Recovery is not a hip hop album it is a pop album (that I can say is decent for what it is, better than Drake's)
I hate when people call a rap album "pop" cuz of a few hooks with singers on it...fuck outta here
N'sync= pop
eminem= rap
theres a huge fuckin difference between pop and rap
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Encore had a handful of good tracks but overall was a poor effort, Relapse we don't even need to discuss again how wack the accent was on almost every song, and Recovery is not a hip hop album it is a pop album (that I can say is decent for what it is, better than Drake's)
I hate when people call a rap album "pop" cuz of a few hooks with singers on it...fuck outta here
N'sync= pop
eminem= rap
theres a huge fuckin difference between pop and rap
I'm not calling the album a pop album because it has Pink, Rihanna and Lil Wayne on it, just listen to the music itself even when it's just Eminem SOLO and the style of most of the production on the album
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it being a pop album (but Eminem is a HORRIBLE singer), I just don't classify it with SSLP, MMLP, Eminem Show, etc. which are actual hard rap, hip-hop albums... slow ya roll homie 8)
and Drake, Eminem, Kanye West, Jay-Z, etc. are still rappers but are also POP as in "popular music", even 50 was at one time ;)
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it's a hillybilly pop album by a hip hop artist, the beats and hooks all were made for a pop crowd not hip hop, the same way a hammer album was made,just em is a legit mc,but be honest about these beats,they were made to shake the rumps of beccy,brad,and jethro, hillybilly pop, and relapse had some ill beats yell
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with it being a pop album (but Eminem is a HORRIBLE singer), I just don't classify it with SSLP, MMLP, Eminem Show, etc. which are actual hard rap, hip-hop albums... slow ya roll homie 8)
and Drake, Eminem, Kanye West, Jay-Z, etc. are still rappers but are also POP as in "popular music", even 50 was at one time ;)
50 still is. Generally speaking, any rap artist that has crossed over is "pop". That means Tupac, Eminem, Jay-Z, The Game, etc. There is bubblegum pop like N'Sync and Justin Bieber and there is "popular culture" which could mean anything from Twilight to fucking Scarface (the Pacino movie, not the rapper). If you've got a fucking poster at Wal-Mart, you're pop. In rap, it's kind of a bad word because it tends to signify "acceptance by the masses" but I don't view it as a basis of musical content at all.
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with it being a pop album (but Eminem is a HORRIBLE singer), I just don't classify it with SSLP, MMLP, Eminem Show, etc. which are actual hard rap, hip-hop albums... slow ya roll homie 8)
and Drake, Eminem, Kanye West, Jay-Z, etc. are still rappers but are also POP as in "popular music", even 50 was at one time ;)
50 still is. Generally speaking, any rap artist that has crossed over is "pop". That means Tupac, Eminem, Jay-Z, The Game, etc. There is bubblegum pop like N'Sync and Justin Bieber and there is "popular culture" which could mean anything from Twilight to fucking Scarface (the Pacino movie, not the rapper). If you've got a fucking poster at Wal-Mart, you're pop. In rap, it's kind of a bad word because it tends to signify "acceptance by the masses" but I don't view it as a basis of musical content at all.
But what makes a song a "pop" song? If you throw a bitch on the hook? Does that automatically make it pop? It's still got the 16 bars in every verse.
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What makes anything "pop"? Mainstream acceptance. I think the word "pop" when it comes to hip-hop audiences is more a derogiatory slang than literal definition. When rap fans use the word "pop", they are talking about the sound as if to say, it's a blatantly softer sided attempt to cater to a more mainstream crowd. But anything can be "pop" if enough people like it. Example: As I mentioned, Scarface is just as "pop" as Twilight or Star Wars. They sell the T-shirts everywhere. 14-year-old kids have the poster up on their bedroom walls. Yes, it's about a Cuban immigrant that murders people on his way up the drug-dealing ladder in Miami but it's become so universally accepted that people from every region and way of life know it. It's not about the content itself but the following it has generated. Like I said in my other reply, you want to know who and what is "pop"? Go to Wal-Mart or Target and flip threw the poster rack.
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When u singin that much its pop
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Encore- Shit minus 3 or 4 songs
Relapse- Rhyming was solid, but that fuckin accent ruined it and some of the content was pretty damn lame
Recovery- Much better than the last two but it annoys me how damn near every song is crying about some girl that broke his heart
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Its not thats its bad its that its so goddamn depressing.....
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And 2 million people want 2 hear him sing n cry?
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Encore had a handful of good tracks but overall was a poor effort, Relapse we don't even need to discuss again how wack the accent was on almost every song, and Recovery is not a hip hop album it is a pop album (that I can say is decent for what it is, better than Drake's)
I hate when people call a rap album "pop" cuz of a few hooks with singers on it...fuck outta here
N'sync= pop
eminem= rap
theres a huge fuckin difference between pop and rap
eminem = pop, there's no way around it.
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I think it's a really good album, what is sad is when people wait for others to give their verdict on something before they can then express theirs. I am not just talking about Eminem, I am talking about anything, indeed you see it to, their opinion fluctuating wildly as others give their points of view.
How can people hate on
Going Through Changes
Not Afraid
No Love
Here We Go
Love The Way You Lie
Talking 2 Myself
Space Bound
25 To Life
Almost Famous
Is frankly beyond me WTG is a cool song to, as is Cinderella Man and Seduction
I think the production does have a more pop vibe to it, but I still really like it, it's too bad that some of you don't, but do you really have to keep saying it? I think most people get it by now, most of you don't like it.
As for the insistence that if you like this you are a stan, i ;D then whatever makes you happy.
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How can people hate on
Going Through Changes
Not Afraid
No Love
Here We Go
Love The Way You Lie
Talking 2 Myself
Space Bound
25 To Life
Almost Famous
Because it's Eminem & he likely gets more shine than other people's favorite rapper; therefore there is hate & therefore we have to listen to it lol.
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How can people hate on
Going Through Changes
Not Afraid
No Love
Here We Go
Love The Way You Lie
Talking 2 Myself
Space Bound
25 To Life
Almost Famous
I liked all of these songs, except "Going Through Changes" does sound too "Deja Vu Pt II" 8)
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^Really? "Spacebound" & "25 To Life" could be my two favorite songs lol.
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^Really? "Spacebound" & "25 To Life" could be my two favorite songs lol.
I don't hate or dislike those songs personally, just couldn't really get into them :-\
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He's actually gotten progressively better with the last three albums.
Agreed. I'm really enjoying "Recovery".
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3 very good albums and 3 soft and offbeat albums
sslp
mmlp
eminem show
the rest are average and not much replay value
encore
relapse
recovery
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1. The Slim Shady LP (4˝ mics)
2. The Marshall Mathers LP (4˝ mics)
3. Relapse (4˝ mics)
4. The Eminem Show (4 mics)
5. Recovery (3˝ mics)
6. Encore (3˝ mics)
7. Infinite (2 mics - sorry, I thought this was terrible. Wack beats, Eminem sounding like AZ and Nas, whiney voice).
Encore is much better than its reputation. Granted it was easily his worst album when it dropped and it was preceeded by his worst ever single - Just Lose It. But that album had some mad creative tracks. Even a track like "My First Single" which is godawful in many ways, has got some ridiculous rapping on it. Same could be said for songs like "Rain Man" and "Big Weenie". Stupid tracks in many ways, but really fucking creative. I enjoyed that shit. Then you also had some tight shit like "Encore", "Yellow Brick Road", etc. So while I readily admit that the album is hard to listen to and has some truly wack shit, it is definitely better than its reputation and in many ways deserve more praise that your regular safe gangsta rap album that just sounds like every other albums.
Relapse is much better than its reputation. Once you get over the insanely annoying accents, that shit had great beats, insane flows (arguably best flow album of all time) and lots of creativity too. What other songs out there sound like "Stay Wide Awake", "Underground", "Same Old Song And Dance". What other song has the incredible flow of "Insane"? I think Relapse is easily amongst Eminems best albums. Had he dropped the accent it might have been his very best.
Recovery is overrated, IMO. People rightfully applauded the fact that he lost the accent, but the material itself generally wasn't even close to Relapse, IMO. Far too many skippable tracks and while the Rihanna track has blown up in a major way, I personally find it tedious and insubstantial. However, there are awesome highlights which prove that Eminem skillwise is unfuckwithable. "No Love" being the prime suspect here.
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That's sad, how is that possible?...he fell off hard
how come Michael Jordan didn't win a championship with the Wizards? I mean.. you can't be great forever (unless you die on top like 2pac then you are a legend and live forever in greatness, but that's another subject)
See, the all-time greats have a destiny to fulfill, and Eminem kept reaching for it until finally with the 8 Mile movie/soundtrack he hit the ceiling with "Lose Yourself". He had told his story to the whole world, came from nothing and risen to the top. He had nothing left to do after that, but slowly fall off and "grow a beard/ get wierd/ and disapear into the mountains/... and "say goodbye to hollywood" (as he had previously prophecized
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Damn first person i read say somethin bad bout infinite...is that a real album?
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Im really enjoying recovery def think its better than encore and relapse although both had some really dope tracks on them
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Damn first person i read say somethin bad bout infinite...is that a real album?
yeah, only a small amount was pressed
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Encore- Shit minus 3 or 4 songs
Relapse- Rhyming was solid, but that fuckin accent ruined it and some of the content was pretty damn lame
Recovery- Much better than the last two but it annoys me how damn near every song is crying about some girl that broke his heart
You need to listen closer man, what you talking about? i dont recal many songs at all about a girl breaking his heart, you do realise that there is two songs where he is talking about Proof and one song he is talking about hip hop, not an actual female??
Off the top only song i recal talking about chicks the whole song is the second single?
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Well anyone got a official cover(s) 4 infinite then? always thought this was a demo not a retail cd
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRbEgoTqQs
how is this wack?
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Well anyone got a official cover(s) 4 infinite then? always thought this was a demo not a retail cd
it's a black cover, use google
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Well anyone got a official cover(s) 4 infinite then? always thought this was a demo not a retail cd
http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial3&hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1024&bih=583&q=eminem+infinite&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g3&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
;)
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Good lookin...ima check this out...i have a copy of the bizarre ep so ima c if i can add this 2 the collection
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Good lookin...ima check this out...i have a copy of the bizarre ep so ima c if i can add this 2 the collection
i thought you didn't like Eminem? why collect it then?
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MMLP, SSLP = classics
The Eminem Show = near classic
Infinite = great album
Recovery, Relapse = average albums; but definitely bumpable
Encore = a little worse, but still has it's moments.
Overall: One of the greats.
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average? i thought you enjoyed those albums
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average? i thought you enjoyed those albums
I did like them; Recovery & Relapse are like 7/10's for me.
I can bump them a little more than the average guy because I'm a Shady fan; but they lost replay value, most of the songs were solid, but nothing real standout.
I can still bump his first two albums anyday, anytime, anywhere.
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I have most his limited edition releases...cuz they worth money...rarely listen 2 him...listen 2 his muzik= detoxinstrumentals
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Eminem's a rapper? I thought he just yells over the bitch he cant get over with pop singers in the background
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average? i thought you enjoyed those albums
I did like them; Recovery & Relapse are like 7/10's for me.
I can bump them a little more than the average guy because I'm a Shady fan; but they lost replay value, most of the songs were solid, but nothing real standout.
I can still bump his first two albums anyday, anytime, anywhere.
fair enough
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I wouldn't call Recovery a bad album. Not his best work though.
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remember when recovery dropped and there was a 20 page thread and most folks on this board were calling it amazing? there was NO mention of it being average and people who said that were getting argued with.
WE TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN
maybe folks shouldnt cream over an album on the first 2 weeks anymore.