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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2010, 07:57:48 PM
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let's keep all Heat related stuff in here from here on out
LEbron James
D-wade
Chris Bosh
Udonnis Haslam
Igalskus
Eddie HOuse
Mike Miller
as a Celtic fan I do not wanna face these motherfuckers
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btw i wanna point out how the Laker fans on here seem to be worried ALREADY before the year starts about Miami
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If they can bet on the court what they are on papper shit is scary. Lakers fans should be worried, matter of fact, the whole league should be worried.
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watcH the sig
3 weeks more til preseason starts lol
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82-0
16-0 in the playoffs
they're winning the next 7 titles
close thread
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think the Lakers got it at least this year. this team gon dominate the nba for years to come though.
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I still find it hilarious that LeBron who is considered "the greatest" realized that he had to join Dwades team to win anything.
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I still find it hilarious that LeBron who is considered "the greatest" realized that he had to join Dwades team to win anything.
worst part is he calls himself the greatest...
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I also for got to add, FUCK THE MIAMI HEAT AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR
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82-0
16-0 in the playoffs
they're winning the next 7 titles
close thread
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I still find it hilarious that LeBron who is considered "the greatest" realized that he had to join Dwades team to win anything.
how has D Wade been doing the past 4 years? how relevant have his teams been again since Shaq left?
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I also for got to add, FUCK THE MIAMI HEAT AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h248/lukesamson07/umadanimation.gif)
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I still find it hilarious that LeBron who is considered "the greatest" realized that he had to join Dwades team to win anything.
how has D Wade been doing the past 4 years? how relevant have his teams been again since Shaq left?
That doesn't change the fact that it's Dwades team lol..
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I still find it hilarious that LeBron who is considered "the greatest" realized that he had to join Dwades team to win anything.
how has D Wade been doing the past 4 years? how relevant have his teams been again since Shaq left?
That doesn't change the fact that it's Dwades team lol..
I find it pretty amusing that the media has slowly shifted it to "LeBron's Team".
Anyway just name me a champion in the past twenty years where if you took the best player off of it they would lose & not DESTROY by at least 30, last years Cavs.
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yeah, I am mad you bandwagon cocksuckers, y'all should be too
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yeah, I am mad you bandwagon cocksuckers, y'all should be too
i'm not gonna lie
it'll be fun to watch the Miami Heat gel together....gonna be like watching college ball some days
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What's the point of wasting the next five years rooting for your team if your team isn't the Lakers or Heat?
For at least two more years the Lakers will have the West on lock & unless Melo & CP3 team up or do something that's Heat-like, nobody will come close in the East to the Heat.
I'm a 76ers fan & if they magically win, I'll root for them obviously, but I apologize for not being a retarded homer thinking we have a solid chance of winning lol.
Basically watching the NBA this year you have two option:
1. Root for the Heat.
2. Root for the Lakers.
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realistically i could see the team having a rough start to get going with the club not in sync people not knowing everyones favorite spots, how they cut/move to the basket, strengths and weaknesses. but as the season progresses the team rallying at the march point of the season as then they'll finally know how mike miller plays alongside bosh and Z.. so there could be some chemistry issues early on
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What's the point of wasting the next five years rooting for your team if your team isn't the Lakers or Heat?
For at least two more years the Lakers will have the West on lock & unless Melo & CP3 team up or do something that's Heat-like, nobody will come close in the East to the Heat.
I'm a 76ers fan & if they magically win, I'll root for them obviously, but I apologize for not being a retarded homer thinking we have a solid chance of winning lol.
Basically watching the NBA this year you have two option:
1. Root for the Heat.
2. Root for the Lakers.
What about the Celtics ?
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What's the point of wasting the next five years rooting for your team if your team isn't the Lakers or Heat?
For at least two more years the Lakers will have the West on lock & unless Melo & CP3 team up or do something that's Heat-like, nobody will come close in the East to the Heat.
I'm a 76ers fan & if they magically win, I'll root for them obviously, but I apologize for not being a retarded homer thinking we have a solid chance of winning lol.
Basically watching the NBA this year you have two option:
1. Root for the Heat.
2. Root for the Lakers.
What about the Celtics ?
Or the Magic?
Both still serious contenders if you ask me.
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What's the point of wasting the next five years rooting for your team if your team isn't the Lakers or Heat?
For at least two more years the Lakers will have the West on lock & unless Melo & CP3 team up or do something that's Heat-like, nobody will come close in the East to the Heat.
I'm a 76ers fan & if they magically win, I'll root for them obviously, but I apologize for not being a retarded homer thinking we have a solid chance of winning lol.
Basically watching the NBA this year you have two option:
1. Root for the Heat.
2. Root for the Lakers.
What about the Celtics ?
Or the Magic?
Both still serious contenders if you ask me.
Both have a better chance than the rest of the league, but both still have no chance; barring injury to the Heat's core.
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i'm a Celtics fan and even I don't think we have a chance
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i'm a Celtics fan and even I don't think we have a chance
we sure as hell do have a chance, as long as the refs start calling that travel Lebrick does every time he touches the ball...
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Lol @ wcsoldier
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The Heat are gonna be one of the more dominating teams in NBA history........after Kobe retires.
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What if their big 3 dont work out? Can they find another dope big 3 like that?
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The Heat are gonna be one of the more dominating teams in NBA history........after Kobe retires.
so this is Kobe's last year?
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heres a vid of chris bosh working out with miami
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ohNTYYqac
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is there any doubt miami is going to take it all for the next 3 years atleast?
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watch out 4 magic
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magic johnson has not played in over a decade, why should they worry about him? ;)
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Hack u a fool orlando magic...magic>>ur boston
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Hack u a fool orlando magic...magic>>ur boston
EXCUSE ME? where was Orlando in the finals last year?
oh right orlando did not make it to the finals
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U du.....that dont make em a wack team...they aint make it 2 the finals recently mr boston?
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the other day i gently laid a heats jersey on the ground took a huge dump on it after eatin some taco bell and light it on fire
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the other day i gently laid a heats jersey on the ground took a huge dump on it after eatin some taco bell and light it on fire
wow you must really feel like the man now
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I hate to say this but..... SAVE US KOBE
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I hate to say this but..... SAVE US KOBE
Don't say that lol. I'm turning to the Heat to save us from Kobe lmfao. Honestly, if I never became a member of this forum & didn't have to listen to these Laker fans, I'd probabaly be hating the Heat right now lol.
But you're a Dolphins fan, no? Shouldn't have been much of a transition for you. Unless they remind you too much of the Yankees lol.
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SAVE US RAJON RONDO
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Heat may try to sign Erick Dampie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-dampierfreeagency091710)r.
they don't really need another big body IMO; they should try to sign another PG/SG I'd say.
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I hate to say this but..... SAVE US KOBE
Don't say that lol. I'm turning to the Heat to save us from Kobe lmfao. Honestly, if I never became a member of this forum & didn't have to listen to these Laker fans, I'd probabaly be hating the Heat right now lol.
But you're a Dolphins fan, no? Shouldn't have been much of a transition for you. Unless they remind you too much of the Yankees lol.
I'm a phins fan because the only NY football team plays all the way up in Buffalo. It'll be a cold day in hell before I cheer for anything from NY's armpit, New Jersey.
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Heat may try to sign Erick Dampie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-dampierfreeagency091710)r.
they don't really need another big body IMO; they should try to sign another PG/SG I'd say.
it never hurts - he's good for a bench guy
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I hate to say this but..... SAVE US KOBE
Don't say that lol. I'm turning to the Heat to save us from Kobe lmfao. Honestly, if I never became a member of this forum & didn't have to listen to these Laker fans, I'd probabaly be hating the Heat right now lol.
But you're a Dolphins fan, no? Shouldn't have been much of a transition for you. Unless they remind you too much of the Yankees lol.
It'll be a cold day in hell before I cheer for anything from NY's armpit, New Jersey.
LOL. ;D
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The Heat are gonna be one of the more dominating teams in NBA history........after Kobe retires.
so this is Kobe's last year?
Kobe got more 2/3 good years left imo, Boston got one more good year maybe, after that if shit's stays the same the Heat got the NBA on lock.
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boston wont beat miami next year man
im no fool :(
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The Heat are gonna be one of the more dominating teams in NBA history........after Kobe retires.
so this is Kobe's last year?
Kobe got more 2/3 good years left imo, Boston got one more good year maybe, after that if shit's stays the same the Heat got the NBA on lock.
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boston wont beat miami next year man
im no fool :(
You never know, Boston got depth. Plus, last year everybody was giving it to the Cavs. It's not over till it ends, Boston got a chance, I know they're old, I know they're aging but they can still do it if everyone does his thing, especially Rondo.
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boston wont beat miami next year man
im no fool :(
You never know, Boston got depth. Plus, last year everybody was giving it to the Cavs. It's not over till it ends, Boston got a chance, I know they're old, I know they're aging but they can still do it if everyone does his thing, especially Rondo.
we do have the best PG in the game (endorsed by Magic Johnson) in Rajon Rondo.
but still the Heat are stacked
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Hack u a fool orlando magic...magic>>ur boston
hey encye it was nice knowing ya
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is anyone else kinda surprised Shaq didn't try to go back to Miami? lol I'll take him up in bean town (even if it's only for 20 a night) but Shaq would've been a starting C for the Heat IMO
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^^^^ Shaq dissed Bosh back in 09 and I doubt Wade and Bron wanted his lazy ass back ... Shaq talked shit on every team he has played for , says a lot on who is the pb ..
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^^^^ Shaq dissed Bosh back in 09 and I doubt Wade and Bron wanted his lazy ass back ... Shaq talked shit on every team he has played for , says a lot on who is the pb ..
shaq didn't diss Penny Hardaway right?
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^^^^ Shaq dissed Bosh back in 09 and I doubt Wade and Bron wanted his lazy ass back ... Shaq talked shit on every team he has played for , says a lot on who is the pb ..
shaq didn't diss Penny Hardaway right?
are you kidding me ?
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Shaq shitted on Miami upon leaving 'em...LOL@the thought of him going back to the Heat. There were ore chances of him backing Bynum this season.
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^^^^ Shaq dissed Bosh back in 09 and I doubt Wade and Bron wanted his lazy ass back ... Shaq talked shit on every team he has played for , says a lot on who is the pb ..
shaq didn't diss Penny Hardaway right?
are you kidding me ?
its been 12+ years man i dont remember
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I remember when Shaq left Miami & was questioned about it he said something like "We have Chris Quinn as a PG. Whose going to win with Chris Quinn?" LOL.
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I remember when Shaq left Miami & was questioned about it he said something like "We have Chris Quinn as a PG. Whose going to win with Chris Quinn?" LOL.
hahahaha well can you blame him?
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I remember when Shaq left Miami & was questioned about it he said something like "We have Chris Quinn as a PG. Whose going to win with Chris Quinn?" LOL.
hahahaha well can you blame him?
the pb is he had the right to say things like that ( even if he sounds like an arrogant prick) when he was in his prime ... which isnt the case for a long time ... Shaq main pb is that he has too much ego to admit hes just a role player now
He bitched about his lack of touches with the Cavs and dissed Mo Williams for shooting too much ....at this point Mo is a better scorer than Shaq period
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well Mo Williams is a bitch ass nigga - but yes at this current point I would say that he is a better player than Shaq - but due to the lack of centers Shaq may be better AT HIS POSITION than Mo is.
did anyone else hear Mo talk about wanting to retire after LEbron left/ guy was very emotionally distraught...but hes making too much $$$ to retire IMO
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yeah I read his comments ... you want to retire because a teammate (no matter how great he is) left your team ? LMAO
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yeah dude needs to realize that in THIS day and age you just dont turn down a million dollar job like that
on the other hand Mo is already rich, and if he retires then that brings in a roster spot for one more family in America to get paidddd
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Shaq shitted on Miami upon leaving 'em...LOL@the thought of him going back to the Heat. There were ore chances of him backing Bynum this season.
so why haven't the Lakers traded Bynum yet?
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Miami is 861-911 with 1 title in it's history
when this upcoming season is over, how many games above .500 will the Heat be?
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Labron is gonna take it
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Labron is gonna take it
did u just see them on Sportscenter?
reminds me so much of Boston's big 3 back in 2007.
man the eastern conference is WHERE IT'S AT this year
eastern conference allstar team:
Rajon Rondo
D-wade
Lebron
Bosh
Howard
that's a damn good team.
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98-0.
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^^^^ Shaq dissed Bosh back in 09 and I doubt Wade and Bron wanted his lazy ass back ... Shaq talked shit on every team he has played for , says a lot on who is the pb ..
shaq didn't diss Penny Hardaway right?
are you kidding me ?
its been 12+ years man i dont remember
In case you haven't noticed Shaq has talked shit about every organization that he's left. Don't get me wrong, I think the guy's hilarious, but he's not the most credible person.
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well i guess when you score 29 points and grab 14 boards a game you earn the ability to talk a little more shit
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even thou when you watch Miami Heat games on TV the seats are empty, but in reality the owners are druglords JSYK
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oct 26th is coming up
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first pre-season game is tonight against detroit on nbatv.....sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit!!
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don't sleep on the collins bunch, them 76er's got a nice squad if brand is indeed healty,they match up against the heat real well,yell
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don't sleep on the collins bunch, them 76er's got a nice squad if brand is indeed healty,they match up against the heat real well,yell
Are you a fellow 76ers fan? ;D 8)
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The Heat's run starts tonight. I'm pretty hyped to watch them. 8)
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wade injured already in the first quarter with a hamstring strain....wow.
but lebron looks fuckin sick, some huge buckets/dunks already...and the pick and roll between lebron and bosh looks unstoppable!!
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That was a pretty impressive first quarter; offensively & defensively.
Wade's being cautious & you can't blame him at all. But I noticed the offense really picked up when Wade sat out & the offense ran through LeBron. I hope LeBron & Wade can get that down & it doesn't affect them offensively.
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dude did u see Lebron last night
this is HIS team now
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dude did u see Lebron last night
this is HIS team now
I'd say a majority of people already knew that, considering he was the better player. But Lakers fans needed something to take LeBron off his high-chair & say "Oh, it's Wade's team all the way!".
But you can't really buy into how they play in the pre-season, especially considering they have said they spent all of camp working on defense & not many offensive plays; although with LeBron & Wade controlling the ball, how many plays do you need? lol.
Game 1 vs. the Celtics are where we'll see what's cooking in South Beach.
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there are a lot of dumb motheruckers asyings its still dwades team
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there are a lot of dumb motheruckers asyings its still dwades team
And I personally guarentee you if you ask those people, "Whose better? Kobe or LeBron?", they will all say Kobe, followed by a negative comment aimed at LeBron lol.
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yes that is accurate
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this will be Bron team but Wade cannot be viewed as a sidekick , he's the 3rd best player in the league
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this will be Bron team but Wade cannot be viewed as a sidekick , he's the 3rd best player in the league
1-lebron
2-durant
3-dwade
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this will be Bron team but Wade cannot be viewed as a sidekick , he's the 3rd best player in the league
& you wouldn't say Pau Gasol is the second best big man in the league after Dwight?
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there are a lot of dumb motheruckers asyings its still dwades team
And I personally guarentee you if you ask those people, "Whose better? Kobe or LeBron?", they will all say Kobe, followed by a negative comment aimed at LeBron lol.
a lot of dumb motherfuckers also say nowitzki is similar to bird ;D. on the real, I'm no kobe dickrider and that's wade's team, at least right now, james' better than him but wade got almost all the all time records for the heat and he already won a ring there, like wade said, it's his house.
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it's wades house but Lebron is the landlord
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it's wades house but Lebron is the landlord
guess you can call that ;D. as a basketball fan first, well hope the knicks can be in the playoffs, can't wait to see them playing, lakers are the only team that I can see stopping them, not ruling out boston or maybe orlando, but if they can be on the court what they are on papper, shit is scary.
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to be honest....as long as Lebron, Wade, Bosh, House, Milller and Haslaam are all healthy come playoff time they'll be fine. Kobe is getting older, Boston is getting older except for Rondo who's just getting more and more dangerous and Orlando is a fraud
oh and Miami's got KEnny Hasbrook. the kid from Siena. I saw him play a few times up there and he's the shit :D
i hope he makes the team. put Siena on the map.
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Honestly, I really didn't like the way it looked with Wade & LeBron on the court together. I mean, it only happened for like two and a half mintues, but they looked sloppy on the offensive side.
Those two need to be in synch.
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this will be Bron team but Wade cannot be viewed as a sidekick , he's the 3rd best player in the league
& you wouldn't say Pau Gasol is the second best big man in the league after Dwight?
I have no pb saying that because it's true ... but Gasol cannot lead a team to a NBA title as a 1st option, Wade can ...
Don't want to start another Kobe vs Lebron discussion , I'm just saying that Lebron is not head and shoulders above Wade
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Honestly, I really didn't like the way it looked with Wade & LeBron on the court together. I mean, it only happened for like two and a half mintues, but they looked sloppy on the offensive side.
Those two need to be in synch.
they both have been ball dominant players for years , it's not going to be easy for them to adjust on halfcourt offense at all... Miami might be a better team with only Bron and Bosh or Wade and Bosh on the floor at the same time
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you guys also need to realize antoher thing
the Heat SHOULD have it so where when Lebron gets rest, Wade is on the floor and vice versa
that way they NEVER have a moment in a game that matters where both are on the bench in crucial moments
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17 days til Boston beats Miami ;)
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lebron travels 75% of the time he touches the ball, and he goes to the line 10 times a game, the league/refs and the media is just hyping him to make money for when kobe retires... don't believe the hype. for the record I hate both lebron and kobe.
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lebron travels 75% of the time he touches the ball, and he goes to the line 10 times a game, the league/refs and the media is just hyping him to make money for when kobe retires... don't believe the hype. for the record I hate both lebron and kobe.
lmao
dude gets 30 PPG 8 APG and 8 RPG
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did you not see what I said? he goes to the line 10 times a game, he travels most times he touches the ball. so fucking what if he averages 30 points....
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did you not see what I said? he goes to the line 10 times a game, he travels most times he touches the ball. so fucking what if he averages 30 points....
haters gonna hate you are describing AI not Lebron
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Its still D wades team until proven otherwise this season(instead of Dade County the state of Florida officially renamed it Wade County)... D wade is going to take the last shot most likely.
Lebron is like Magic Johnson just more athletically gifted than Earvin ever was. Lebrons gonna handle the ball most of the time D wades going to handle the ball a bit also.. they're play makers and even if he doesnt Wade played that role in the 2006 USA olympics when he played off the ball and was the MVP of that team.
They still got a ways to go before offensively they're in sync. right now they are just playing off of each other.
The 2 Minutes they both played together if you seen they were a monsterous at the Defensive end being disruptive but you cant really predict off of just 2 minutes what its going to be like come Mid/Late in the season.
Chris Bosh is looking mighty impressive shit is coming so easy for him unbelievable 3rd option. Heat Just needs to develop Dexter Pittman C ... I see him as the next kendrick perkins.. with Alonzo Mourning there to offer guidance
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did you not see what I said? he goes to the line 10 times a game, he travels most times he touches the ball. so fucking what if he averages 30 points....
If they went hard with travel calls, there would be one called on 99% of the league on every other possesion.
The only reason bitch about LeBron doing it is because it only makes him more dominant.
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chammys right
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did you not see what I said? he goes to the line 10 times a game, he travels most times he touches the ball. so fucking what if he averages 30 points....
If they went hard with travel calls, there would be one called on 99% of the league on every other possesion.
The only reason bitch about LeBron doing it is because it only makes him more dominant.
you're fucking retarded if you think I'm even going to try to have an intelligent debate with you. Lebron James could average 10 points this year and you would still think of 100 reasons why he's the "best in the league". You will always defend him and you will always think you're right.
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the only way Lebron will average 10 points a game is if he has 15 assists per game to go with that
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did you not see what I said? he goes to the line 10 times a game, he travels most times he touches the ball. so fucking what if he averages 30 points....
If they went hard with travel calls, there would be one called on 99% of the league on every other possesion.
The only reason bitch about LeBron doing it is because it only makes him more dominant.
you're fucking retarded if you think I'm even going to try to have an intelligent debate with you. Lebron James could average 10 points this year and you would still think of 100 reasons why he's the "best in the league". You will always defend him and you will always think you're right.
Right. I'm "retarded" but you don't think the rest of the league travels. If that's really what you think, then thank you for not debating with me. I can't deal with that level of stupidity lol.
On just about every time up the court a player either travels or carries; LeBron does it too, the only difference is he averages 30, 8 & 8. If you can't admit that & don't want to debate it, I'm just going to have to assume you don't have a counter-argument to it lol.
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traveling is part of the NBA Chammy is right about this
Lebron is a lock to be a top 10 player of all time maybe top 5
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The only thing that will seperate LeBron from in the Top 10 to the Top 5 is how many rings he wins.
But then again, if LeBron can't win with this Heat team, he doesn't deserve to be in the Top 5.
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The only thing that will seperate LeBron from in the Top 10 to the Top 5 is how many rings he wins.
But then again, if LeBron can't win with this Heat team, he doesn't deserve to be in the Top 5.
what if he pulls a Jim Kelly and loses 4 straight NBA finals? haha
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The only thing that will seperate LeBron from in the Top 10 to the Top 5 is how many rings he wins.
But then again, if LeBron can't win with this Heat team, he doesn't deserve to be in the Top 5.
what if he pulls a Jim Kelly and loses 4 straight NBA finals? haha
I had to think about that question until I realized that it's a trick question. Nobody is beating him in the Finals. ;D
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yeah the Heats biggest competition this year really is Boston if they beat Boston or face Orlando w/o playing Boston they'll win the finals
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LEbron and D-wade are both out for the time being lol
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^LOL.
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i'd love for Miami to be missing Wade oct 26th
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i'd love for Miami to be missing Wade oct 26th
He'll be there. It's all precautionary.
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i'd love for Miami to be missing Wade oct 26th
He'll be there. It's all precautionary.
yeah
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http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhrHOAwkkpR14s160K
Kobe on Heat: "WOW. How Did Pat Riley Pull That Sh*t Off. I Got To Get My Knee Healthy"
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http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhrHOAwkkpR14s160K
Kobe on Heat: "WOW. How Did Pat Riley Pull That Sh*t Off. I Got To Get My Knee Healthy"
he does...he ain't getting any younger
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
he better watch out for his big bad knee
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Mike Miller is out for a few weeks after injuring his right thumb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AiXSGmQhD._baGo1OG9WuE68vLYF?slug=ap-heat-miller).
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
he better watch out for his big bad knee
i'm pretty sure wade has been injury prone his whole career...and bosh isn't known as one of the healthier mufuckaz out there. kobe, on the other hand, has already proved to the world he's iron man.
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
he better watch out for his big bad knee
i'm pretty sure wade has been injury prone his whole career...and bosh isn't known as one of the healthier mufuckaz out there. kobe, on the other hand, has already proved to the world he's iron man.
Yeah, well he better be smart and take some time off to fix his suit before it breaks.
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mike millers out
more time for Eddie HOuse
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Season kicks off in a few days. 8)
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STACKHOUSE signs with the Heat
looks like he finna get a ring too
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
he better watch out for his big bad knee
i'm pretty sure wade has been injury prone his whole career...and bosh isn't known as one of the healthier mufuckaz out there. kobe, on the other hand, has already proved to the world he's iron man.
LOL Brett Favre an Cal Ripken are iron-men
Kobe is an amazing player who plays through pain but he is not even close to being "iron man" status. that's for Brett Favre and Lou Gehrig, nigga's who go over a decade without missing ONE game and still puts up legendary shit. not that Kobe isn't legendary in his own right he still misses games.
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bosh, lebron, wade = 3 little piggys
kobe = the big bad wolf
he better watch out for his big bad knee
i'm pretty sure wade has been injury prone his whole career...and bosh isn't known as one of the healthier mufuckaz out there. kobe, on the other hand, has already proved to the world he's iron man.
LOL Brett Favre an Cal Ripken are iron-men
Kobe is an amazing player who plays through pain but he is not even close to being "iron man" status. that's for Brett Favre and Lou Gehrig, nigga's who go over a decade without missing ONE game and still puts up legendary shit. not that Kobe isn't legendary in his own right he still misses games.
hate all you want with your typical dumb shit, but kobe is the definition of an nba iron man....
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so whatchu gotta say about those 9 games he missed last year?
IRON MAN = DON'T MISS GAMES
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Kobe bryants body is 15 NBA SEASONS old coming off of knee surgery.. everyone gets old, even jerry rice got old and you know what kind of work ethic he had. This maybe the year where he slows down
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Kobe bryants body is 15 NBA SEASONS old coming off of knee surgery.. everyone gets old, even jerry rice got old and you know what kind of work ethic he had. This maybe the year where he slows down
i hope
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Slows down? You niggas is blind if you can't see he's surrounded by the best supporting cast he's ever had. He doesn't need to go all out, just needs to be selective.
I'll say it for the 1,000th time; the Lakers would make the playoffs if Kobe sat out the entire year. Maybe 7th or 8th seed, but they would still make the playoffs.
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Slows down? You niggas is blind if you can't see he's surrounded by the best supporting cast he's ever had. He doesn't need to go all out, just needs to be selective.
I'll say it for the 1,000th time; the Lakers would make the playoffs if Kobe sat out the entire year. Maybe 7th or 8th seed, but they would still make the playoffs.
lmao
you really think Lamar Slowdom can survive being a #2 option?
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Slows down? You niggas is blind if you can't see he's surrounded by the best supporting cast he's ever had. He doesn't need to go all out, just needs to be selective.
I'll say it for the 1,000th time; the Lakers would make the playoffs if Kobe sat out the entire year. Maybe 7th or 8th seed, but they would still make the playoffs.
lmao
you really think Lamar Slowdom can survive being a #2 option?
With Pau, Ron & Bynum (when healthy) surrounding him? Easily.
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without Kobe that team would be slaughtered when they face an elite PG
fisher already showed signs of oldness all last season
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so whatchu gotta say about those 9 games he missed last year?
IRON MAN = DON'T MISS GAMES
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any other player woulda missed the whole season=iron man...and before he that, he didn't miss a game in years.
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LOL so for Kobe we lower the standard so it's easier to suck his dick?
73 games is NOT 82 games, nomatter WHO you are. you are still missing 9 games, which is not IRON MAN like
Lou Gehrig and Cal Ripken played THOUSANDS of consecutive games. Brett Favre hasn't missed a start since 1992 when Kobe was still a lil virgin.
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Iron Man = Tayshaun Prince
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7even got it right
lol @ kobe being an iron man for two seasons with 82 games.
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the big game tips off in approx 8 hours ya'll
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I don't know if a sensible person would lay down money on the Heat tonight. They have barely ran together as a unit. It could be a rough start tonight for this dynasty.
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I don't know if a sensible person would lay down money on the Heat tonight. They have barely ran together as a unit. It could be a rough start tonight for this dynasty.
yeah but they got enough talent trust me lol
man i cant wait, only 150 minutes left until tipoff
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WOW!! this is going great so far
granted its game 1 of 82*
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I told you guys....this is Lebron's team
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0-1 next stop for Miami is Orlando i think
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0-1 next stop for Miami is Orlando i think
they play Philly tomorrow and then Orlando after that
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ah ok
can someone give it up for my man RAJON RONDO? 17 assists yo
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ah ok
can someone give it up for my man RAJON RONDO? 17 assists yo
Beastin'.
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Thats just one game , obviously the team is going to get better and win a tons of regular season games but they are not going to succeed in the playoffs with this roster ... no post presence ( the center position is very weak compared to others favorites )
and Lebron seriously need to learn how to play off the ball , the Miami offense was so predictable that I was under the impression to watch the Cavaliers
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LeBron - 31 points
Wade - 13 points
"Wade's team". ::)
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Iron Man = Tayshaun Prince Andre Miller
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regular season is just the appertiser, I want to see what they got when they played a fulll 9 months together and reach the playoffs how they'll manage against orlando/boston
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Wade and Bosh were 7 for 27
ouch
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Iron Man = Tayshaun Prince Andre Miller
i guess with Tayshauns injury last year he loses the title
but not to Kobe lol
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7even got it right
lol @ kobe being an iron man for two seasons with 82 games.
he went 5+ years without missing a game due to injury, smart guy (2005-2010)...the other seasons he was missing games were due to suspension. and throughout that streak, he had injuries and brakes to numerous parts of his body, but played through em...only a dicklicker like you would deny Kobe ironman status.
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who wins tonight, Heat or Philly?
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7even got it right
lol @ kobe being an iron man for two seasons with 82 games.
only a dicklicker like me would give a guy who played 73 games ironman status.
you are right
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Miami is 1-1
Wade scored 30, the King scored 16 with 7 assists
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7even got it right
lol @ kobe being an iron man for two seasons with 82 games.
only a dicklicker like me would give a guy who played 73 games ironman status.
you are right
playing with a knee that requires surgery...a broken finger on the shooting hand that requires surgery...a fucked up ankle, amongst other injuries...playing 73 games under those circumstances puts ANY player beyond ironman status...your idol lebron misses games because his elbow hurts. LOL. 95% of the NBA probably woulda missed the whole season in Kobe's condition, and this is a pretty popular notion amongst ALL NBA analysts (including the jealous Kobe haters, such as yourself)
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NIK
iron men play all 82 games every year.
kobe has a great pain threshold sure, but he is NOT an iron man
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*Reads about Kobe*
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*Looks at title of thread*
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*Shakes head*
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*Reads about Kobe*
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*Looks at title of thread*
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*Shakes head*
but you don't think that Mr. 73 games is the basketball equivilant of Brett Favre? ;)
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Yeah, I don't see how Kobe being stubborn & playing through an injury when he team could practically finish in first without him should be credited.
If NIK wants to bring up the analysts, all they were doing was SHITTING on him for being a dickhead for trying to play through the injury & not taking time off.
I could understand if they were a .500 team & they NEEDED Kobe desperately in every single game just to make the playoffs, but he's on easily the deepest, best team in the league, that would have finished first even if he missed 20-25 games last year.
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yeah Kobe's such a stat hog that he can't even let himself get better and miss a few games ;)
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I agree that the level of dickriding of Kobe is very high here ... BUT the level of hatred and nonsense is through the roof ...
If you think that playing through his injuries and still being able to maintain a high level of play is nothing special ... man I dont know what to say
Being able to adapt and change the release of his jumper because of a broken finger , shutting down a prime T-Mac in the 4th quarter with one arm and scoring 18 pts on the other end in 03 is not something that your average NBA player could do ....
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kobe has a high threshold for pain sure
but lou gehrig broke all 5 of his fingers on each hand during his iron man streak
i dont even want to know the pain Favre feels after games lol
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wow what a great game on espn
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Miami's killing Orlando by 26 in the 4th
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Miami just proved tonight that in a month or so when they are in full form, they will be unfuckablewith.
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Miami just proved tonight that in a month or so when they are in full form, they will be unfuckablewith.
just wait til these motherfuckers have Mike Miller too
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LOL .... with the bench that the Lakers have this year , good luck to Miami ... they wont beat the Cs in the playoffs anyways
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LOL .... with the bench that the Lakers have this year , good luck to Miami ... they wont beat the Cs in the playoffs anyways
so Miami just won over the Magic by 20 without Mike Miller and this is your first thought? lol i WISH the c's could beat this team
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^^^^ the C's destroyed the same Magic team last year in the playoffs .... that was a great game by Miami ( liked their defensive intensity) but Orlando usually doesn't deliver in games against the others top 2-3 teams .. their offense isn't versatile enough and Lewis and Vince choked as usual
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^^^^ the C's destroyed the same Magic team last year in the playoffs .... that was a great game by Miami ( liked their defensive intensity) but Orlando usually doesn't deliver in games against the others top 2-3 teams .. their offense isn't versatile enough and Lewis and Vince choked as usual
this is very true
wasn't it funny how Howard had 19 points in the first half and 0 in the second? and Lewis was like 0-10 shooting
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i'm not too concerned with the offense thats going to come, lebron and bosh will find there way. The defense was crazy though :)
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blowout over New Jersey today
not that anybody watched because it's an NFL sunday
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upcoming Heat schedule:
Tue, Nov 2, 2010 Minnesota Timberwolves
Fri, Nov 5, 2010 @ New Orleans Hornets
Sat, Nov 6, 2010 New Jersey Nets
Tue, Nov 9, 2010 Utah Jazz
Thu, Nov 11, 2010 Boston Celtics
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^I bet you want to Heat to win,
Sun fan Knick fan Celtic fan
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^I bet you want to Heat to win, Sun fan Knick fan Celtic fan
hell naw
but if they do win I will certainly bring it up to you to piss you off :D
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Heat winning tonight big, Lebron has 20 points and 12 assists.
meanwhile my boys in green are ahead of Detroit by 23
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Yeah, I don't see how Kobe being stubborn & playing through an injury when he team could practically finish in first without him should be credited.
If NIK wants to bring up the analysts, all they were doing was SHITTING on him for being a dickhead for trying to play through the injury & not taking time off.
I could understand if they were a .500 team & they NEEDED Kobe desperately in every single game just to make the playoffs, but he's on easily the deepest, best team in the league, that would have finished first even if he missed 20-25 games last year.
there were quite a few games where we needed kobe to win games, like all those damn buzzer beaters, etc etc. without him i doubt we would of been the 1st seed, and with us losing that much games, i doubt we would of had the confidence or the morale to get all the way to the finals and win.
but given OKC would still be the 8th seed, and we'd be in the playoffs we would of had an easier 1st round
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^You're just assuming that nobody else on your team can hit a shot lol.
I've seen Tim Duncan hit a game tying three pointer; don't act like somebody else could of hit half of those shots.
& let's say you lost all those sames Kobe hit a buzz-beater. What was that? 8-9 games? You'd still make it to the playoffs & since you're so dominantly better than the rest of the West, you would of made it to the Finals & since Kobe rested up, he would of been fresher, making him better in the playoffs as well.
Maybe he wouldn't have shot like 25% in Game 7. ;D
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^You're just assuming that nobody else on your team can hit a shot lol.
I've seen Tim Duncan hit a game tying three pointer; don't act like somebody else could of hit half of those shots.
& let's say you lost all those sames Kobe hit a buzz-beater. What was that? 8-9 games? You'd still make it to the playoffs & since you're so dominantly better than the rest of the West, you would of made it to the Finals & since Kobe rested up, he would of been fresher, making him better in the playoffs as well.
Maybe he wouldn't have shot like 25% in Game 7. ;D
he just had a bad night in game 7, remember that clinic in game 4?
but tim duncan is a superstar HOFer, confidence and morale is always a question too, if we'd lost those 8-9 games whats saying we wouldnt of lost more especially without kobe.
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Miami loses!
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emekea okafor was assaulting miami players today and he's not even that great. miami need to find a player who can actually play in the paint and not get bullied. bosh and big z were resorting to taking jump shots from near the 3pt line
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Gasol , Bynum and LO gonna have a party when they face the Heat ... bulling them in the paint and turning Lebron and Flash into jumpshooters on the other end ... that's the game plan NO followed and it worked pretty well ...
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Bosh has been quite a disappointment so far, he's like a 7 figure salary role player out there :-\
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Gasol , Bynum and LO gonna have a party when they face the Heat ... bulling them in the paint and turning Lebron and Flash into jumpshooters on the other end ... that's the game plan NO followed and it worked pretty well ...
the main difference between NOH, BOS and LAL is that LAL don't have a point guard on the level of rondo or cp3 which helped those teams tremendously
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Bosh has been quite a disappointment so far, he's like a 7 figure salary role player out there :-\
yep, been really dissapointed in his rebounding numbers (or lack there of) so far. Wade basically NEVER passes this year when he gets the ball. So if Bosh doesnt get looks from LeBron, hes just been taking up space out there.
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yeah its really "the Big Two plus the overpaid guy and friends"
on the real though, there will be days when Wade is out and Lebron and Bosh both go crazy for like 30 each and Bosh will do his. remember he's a 3rd option and the teams most targeted big man.
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teams are packing the paint, loading up against D wade and Lebron. IMO big Z needs to start to spread the floor, and that way Bosh can start attacking like he did last night in the victory vs New Jersey. When you start joel anthony at C, you lose offense... clap it up for big Z though he looks alot happier and doing alot better on the court than he did in Cleveland. Bosh will get his head around this offense though its a brand new system, assignments, and pace for him.
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I agree
they reallllly need Mike Miller healthy too
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LOL, remember when idiots here were sayin Bosh is better than Gasol.
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LOL, remember when idiots here were sayin Bosh is better than Gasol.
yeah but I also remember when you said Bynum was better than Dwight Howard
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i guess Miami won last night (not that anyone cares since today is sunday and it's NFL day)
impressive for thme that they don't go on losing streaks. i see all 3 of the big 3 had great nights stat wise.
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LOL, remember when idiots here were sayin Bosh is better than Gasol.
yeah but I also remember when you said Bynum was better than Dwight Howard
Owned. :bomb:
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LOL, remember when idiots here were sayin Bosh is better than Gasol.
yeah but I also remember when you said Bynum was better than Dwight Howard
Owned. :bomb:
thanks, I do what I can.
I also remember NIK telling us other classics like
Mcgrady > Lebron
Bynum > Amare
and ofcourse he says Kobe > MJ
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Mavs beat Celtics, dope shit, brings back memories from when the Mavs were contenders. How bout Rondo taking that crucial 3 like a retard?
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sorry 7even I was watching monday night football (i get so pissed when the celtics play monday nights during the NFL season). congrats on your boys winning sir.
Heat lose tonight!
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Damn when the one nigga gets a heavy triple double and the other nigga drops 39 it's a real problem if you still lose the ball game. No time to panic yet of course, but they really need Mike Miller and maybe they should consider to trade Chris Bosh for some other big if he continues to play like a mere player for them.
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boshs contract must be too large to trade for equal value lol
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BIG GAME TOMORROW NIGHT
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Rondo was doing a monster dunk while Bosh was standing under the rim not even doing anything. Hilarious.
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Rondo was doing a monster dunk while Bosh was standing under the rim not even doing anything. Hilarious.
foreal...but even more hilarious, nate rob got a tech for walking away with a look of disappointment on his face, while lebron gets away with shouting at the refs like a fag who just got raped.
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they seem to try to enforce some pathetic technical rules so far in this young season, but I think that will stop once more games have been played... the heat really needed that call to catch a break and get into the game
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Rondo is that nigga
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Rondo is that nigga
Yeah that dunk was SICK
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Pierce is killing it too
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Wade really gobbles dick tonight.. LeBron is in Cavs-mode at this point.. doing everything and still losing.
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where does the circle jerk for the Celtics start? haha
Rondo has his 16 assists
Allen gets 35
KG gets 16 and 13 rebs
PP dropped some game (forget how much he had, like 20?)
Lebron does his (35, 10 rebs and 9 assists) but NOBDOY else on Miami showed up
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Lebron is straight up trash, dude goes to the line over 20 times and only scores 35, thats some funny shit to be honest
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
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Lebron is straight up trash, dude goes to the line over 20 times and only scores 35, thats some funny shit to be honest
how funny is it that wade goes 2-12 along with 1 rebound and 6 turnovers, bitch boy?
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Lebron is straight up trash, dude goes to the line over 20 times and only scores 35, thats some funny shit to be honest
dude had 9 assists and 10 rebounds ???
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
oh no doubt - but these November head to head wins still count :D
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
Remember the finals? 3 words: Home court advantage. Heat have some ground to make up.
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I Luv 2 see them suffer
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they're the best 5-4 team ever lolz
Rondo is that nigga
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only you find t hat funny lil boy
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lets go Celtics
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BIG GAME TOMORROW NIGHT
I LOVE BEING A BIG FAGGOT
OH WOW H OW CLEVER
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I don't why y'all keep talking about Wade and James stats ... the reason why the Heat already lost 4 games is that their defense (especially interior) is very poor... Bosh is a complete hole on that side of the floor, Z is too slow , only Haslem is a decent defensive player but he's undersized ...
Obviously this team will improve but they aren't going to past Boston in the playoffs with that poor interior sector ... just no way
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Boston got #NBACHAMPS on lock this year
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
Remember the finals? 3 words: Home court advantage. Heat have some ground to make up.
But if the team gels & plays like they should be playing, home court advantage won't mean shit. They'll win by ten when away & twenty when home.
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only you find t hat funny lil boy
only you find t hat funny lil boy
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Bosh is sorry. Regardless of whether or not he's getting his numbers, he still looks like a little bitch on the court. Shaq had a good reason to call his ass out last year. lol @ him just standing there when Rondo dunked that shit on him.
Much like in the game where Miami blew the 22 point lead to the Jazz, it seems like the main issue is that neither Wade or LeBron know how to play off the ball. The ongoing trend in their losses is that one player tries to take over by himself in the clutch, and the other stands there doing nothing. There's also Bosh, but nobody cares about him.
lol, here's what Paul Pierce said on his twitter: It's been a pleasure to bring my talents to south beach now on to Memphis
http://twitter.com/paulpierce34/status/2952667827539968
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It's been a pleasure to bring my talents to south beach now on to Memphis
http://twitter.com/paulpierce34/status/2952667827539968
Boston really is a despicable team. If players publically twitter those kind of things, who in his right mind still doubts that Villanueva is telling the truth about KG's comments? Who can fathom what those niggas say in private, even? Despicable niggas.
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It's been a pleasure to bring my talents to south beach now on to Memphis
http://twitter.com/paulpierce34/status/2952667827539968
Boston really is a despicable team. If players publically twitter those kind of things, who in his right mind still doubts that Villanueva is telling the truth about KG's comments? Who can fathom what those niggas say in private, even? Despicable niggas.
Lol, I certainly never doubted what KG said. It's KG, he's not exactly the most conservative guy as far as speech is concerned. Although in KG's defense, I think he would be more sensitive in what he said if Charlie V actually was a cancer patient, as opposed to looking like one.
Pierce and LeBron never liked each other from day one though. Actually, as of right now, I'm not sure anyone actually likes LeBron lol.
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Lebron is straight up trash, dude goes to the line over 20 times and only scores 35, thats some funny shit to be honest
how funny is it that wade goes 2-12 along with 1 rebound and 6 turnovers, bitch boy?
youre obviously butthurt that the team you thought would win every game has now turned out to be the shitshow of the league, have a nice day
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Lebron is straight up trash, dude goes to the line over 20 times and only scores 35, thats some funny shit to be honest
how funny is it that wade goes 2-12 along with 1 rebound and 6 turnovers, bitch boy?
youre obviously butthurt that the team you thought would win every game has now turned out to be the shitshow of the league, have a nice day
he's a DALLAS fan...why would he care? lmao
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lmao @ that PP twitter
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lol @ PP
Shaq owned Joel Anthony... You guys gotta give this team time, Feb/March is when will see the team turn around..
Heat needs to start Mario Chalmers at PG, and sit down Anthony he's a nice athletic undersized center, but he's a pine rider for sure. they def need more size in the paint. hopefully alonzo mourning gets over his cancer soon and comes back =P
Heat are reportedly talking to Eric Dampier's big ass who would be a nice upgrade over JA
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Much like in the game where Miami blew the 22 point lead to the Jazz, it seems like the main issue is that neither Wade or LeBron know how to play off the ball. The ongoing trend in their losses is that one player tries to take over by himself in the clutch, and the other stands there doing nothing. There's also Bosh, but nobody cares about him.
That's the big problem. It even affects Bosh who hasn't adjusted from being the 1st option to 3rd.
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LeBron is tired.
http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/25801090
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
Remember the finals? 3 words: Home court advantage. Heat have some ground to make up.
But if the team gels & plays like they should be playing, home court advantage won't mean shit. They'll win by ten when away & twenty when home.
Really? After losing to Boston twice, after staring 5-4, you don't think home court advantage is going to be an issue? They can sweep most teams in the East, but they are not that good to the point were HCA won't be an issue against Boston or L.A.
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Lebron is right...he shouldn't be playing 44 minutes a game in November
with that said, it's not like he was playing 44 against the T-wolves, it's the Celtics
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Wade & LeBron were 0-10 from three.
Given that combined they are probably 30% from there; give them 3 three's & they win the game.
Also, give them five more months to work together as a team & it's even closer.
If you're planning on sleeping on this team come May/June, you're going to be in trouble lol.
Remember the finals? 3 words: Home court advantage. Heat have some ground to make up.
But if the team gels & plays like they should be playing, home court advantage won't mean shit. They'll win by ten when away & twenty when home.
Really? After losing to Boston twice, after staring 5-4, you don't think home court advantage is going to be an issue? They can sweep most teams in the East, but they are not that good to the point were HCA won't be an issue against Boston or L.A.
If the team plays at the potential that they can play at, then no. I don't feel it will be that big an issue.
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Lebron is right...he shouldn't be playing 44 minutes a game in November
with that said, it's not like he was playing 44 against the T-wolves, it's the Celtics
44 IS TOO MANY MINUTES!!! Okay, so far this year his averaging 37.6 mpg, which is his lowest in his career, in his 8th season. At the same time Michael Jordan was averaging 38.8 mpg, this after 4 seasons at 39 or above, and in his 8th year Kobe was at 37.8, though it was an injury year and the season before, and 4 seasons after Kobe had above 40mpg. LeBron himself had 4 season over 40 too, so I am confused as to why his complaining? This is the difference between LeBron and other greats, other greats WANT to be on the floor, in November, in March, in May, it doesn't matter, they want to be there. LeBron sees it as a burden.
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when your team has Lebron and D-wade you really have no excuse to play them 44 min
think about it like this...when you give Lebron his 10 minutes of rest you can keep D-wade on the floor and vice versa
what a fucking pain for the other teams coach
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when your team has Lebron and D-wade you really have no excuse to play them 44 min
think about it like this...when you give Lebron his 10 minutes of rest you can keep D-wade on the floor and vice versa
what a fucking pain for the other teams coach
When you are down by 15 at the half in an important game, because if you ties with Boston at the end they have the tiebreaker in terms of head to head match ups, then playing 44 minutes might be worth it. LeBron has to see the big picture. You could be tied with Boston for home court, and then you gave it up because you didn't want to play 44 minutes in a game back in November. It all counts, ask Boston how much home court means in a game 7.
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For a 262 lbs 6'9'' nigga who is carrying the ball all the time 44 minutes in november is really a lot. He's not saying that he doesn't want to play, he just wants to bring his A-game in crunch time which is not possible if you're a heavy bulky nigga carrying the ball all game long while also playing significantly more minutes than any other nigga on the court
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For a 262 lbs 6'9'' nigga who is carrying the ball all the time 44 minutes in november is really a lot. He's not saying that he doesn't want to play, he just wants to bring his A-game in crunch time which is not possible if you're a heavy bulky nigga carrying the ball all game long while also playing significantly more minutes than any other nigga on the court
Please... his 25, the prime of his career and his team is getting handled by a bunch of pld guys who are closer to the HoF than rookie of the year. If he don't want to play as much as possible to make a comeback after being down 15 at the half, then his showing he doesn't have the desire to win. He has all the talents to be the best player ever, he has way more physical gifts than MJ and Kobe, but he does not have the killer instinct and the long out look of the season to see that winning that game and playing the minutes to win that game is important. He can get reduced minutes when they are blowing out the 76ers or the Nets, you have to beat Boston to compete for home court advantage.
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lol can these commentators get any more biased?
'dwyane wade with a dunk..'
'CALDERON WITH THE INBOUND PASS!!!!!!!!!!!'
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Heat beat the Raptors...musta been nice for Bosh
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Heat beat the Raptors...musta been nice for Bosh
Too bad for him though he didn't do much in the game.
Give credit to the Raps for hanging on and making it a fairly close one.
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eh Im sure he cares more about the win
was watching the Celtics so I didn't watch the game
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Lebron had 20 points, 8 rebounds and 9 assists in 23 minutes
amazing shit
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oh and bosh dropped 35 tonight...season high
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Lebron had 20 points, 8 rebounds and 9 assists in 23 minutes
amazing shit
Wade has to take a backseat to LeBron real quick. LeBron is clearly the best player. Having another player to compete trying to be the man will hurt Miami big time.
Bill Simmons' take:
You can't win an NBA title without someone eventually saying, "I got this" and everyone else agreeing, "You're right, you got this." Miami isn't there yet.
I thought LeBron would make that sacrifice, but upon further review, Wade needs to reinvent himself as the team's defensive stopper, facilitator, emotional leader and occasional closer (much like Kobe did on the 2008 Dream Team). Why? Because LeBron is better than him. In Boston, I was praying to myself, "I hope LeBron doesn't decide to take over." Wade was an afterthought. And yeah, he struggled that game ... but I know what I saw, and I know how I felt. The only guy on the court who could stop LeBron on Tuesday night was Dwyane Wade.
Maybe every Heat member slowly realized during the preseason, "Good God, LeBron is MUCH better than Dwyane. What do we do? How do we handle this? Do we wait for Dwyane to admit it? Do we ... wait, what do we do???"
Maybe Wade can feel it. Maybe his competitive juices are kicking in. No, no, we're equals. He's not better than me. We're equally good. Look, I'll show you. Maybe it's just been the elephant in the room for six weeks. Maybe deep down, everyone knows the Heat can't take off until Wade has his "You can be chairman and CEO, I'll be president and COO" moment. It goes beyond who gets to take the last shot. It's about the dynamics of basketball. It's about someone emerging as the emotional leader, the spine of the team, the guy who says over and over again, "I got this." And you can't keep saying that if you're looking over your shoulder worrying that someone else is saying the same thing. It's like a fly ball in the outfield. Eventually, someone has to call it.
The titles can't happen until Wade has his Frank Wells moment. And only then. Might happen this season, might happen next season, but it will happen. Even if Wade doesn't want to admit it yet.
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
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lost on offense? thats funny considering the guy may be the best all around statistical player in the NBA
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lost on offense? thats funny considering the guy may be the best all around statistical player in the NBA
how so when he's shooting the lowest percentage of his career? can u try to make sense... he can't handle a real offense as well as Mike Brown's "give the ball to LeBron and move out of his way" system. LOL
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lost on offense? thats funny considering the guy may be the best all around statistical player in the NBA
how so when he's shooting the lowest percentage of his career? can u try to make sense... he can't handle a real offense as well as Mike Brown's "give the ball to LeBron and move out of his way" system. LOL
he cant handle a real offense...yet he's got a career average of 27 PPG and 7 assists per game??
I fail to see how he could not handle Mike Brown's system (let alone Miami's...which he'll def get down)
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
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lost on offense? thats funny considering the guy may be the best all around statistical player in the NBA
how so when he's shooting the lowest percentage of his career? can u try to make sense... he can't handle a real offense as well as Mike Brown's "give the ball to LeBron and move out of his way" system. LOL
he cant handle a real offense...yet he's got a career average of 27 PPG and 7 assists per game??
I fail to see how he could not handle Mike Brown's system (let alone Miami's...which he'll def get down)
I said he couldn't handle a true offense...Mike Brown's offense was no problem for him. It was plain and simple- throw the ball to LeBron and space out the floor so he can charge into the lane and shoot it or dish it out. Do you really not realize how much his stock has plummeted since playing for Miami?
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
Two questions:
1.) Do you honestly think Wade is better than LeBron... like, seriously? I mean, in all honesty. Not in that swagger-sense of simply stating "T-Mac > LeBron" to cause a riot and shit. I mean seriously... do you think Wade > LeBron?
2.) How can someone who can't handle an offense average 9 assists in the first place? How is that theoretically possible?
Even their coach doesn't really know what to do, so of course the Heat play pretty chaotic. But they will figure it out, sooner or later. It's difficult to handle with 2 top 3 players, one soft ass top 20 player and a bunch of nobodies. But if they figure it out, you most definitely gon see LeBron handlin' a "real offense". Of course he can't have a superhuman stateline like he sometimes did in Cleveland, that is only natural.
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If the PG situation ain't fixed by the trade deadline, look for the heat to make a trade for a PG. but i think once Mario Chalmers ankle gets fully healed, he'll be the Defensive minded - 3 Pt Spacer the Heat need at the 1. Teams just crowd the paint when carlos arroyo is in there, they're backing out a bit now that big Z is starting with that automatic mid range jumper hes done over his career. Thankfully joel anthony is now out of there hes def not a starter in the nba
Can't wait til Mike Miller comes back hes the Heats Version of Lamar Odom.. Ball Handler, can drive and lights out from beyond the 3. good rebounder at 6'8 but again like a brand new fish in your aquarium has to get acclimated again.
Our crunch time line up:
pg - Lebron
sg - D wade (will guard opposing pgs)
sf - Miller
pf - Bosh
C - Big Z/Jamaal Magloire
Lakers cant see that :P
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If the PG situation ain't fixed by the trade deadline, look for the heat to make a trade for a PG. but i think once Mario Chalmers ankle gets fully healed, he'll be the Defensive minded - 3 Pt Spacer the Heat need at the 1. Teams just crowd the paint when carlos arroyo is in there, they're backing out a bit now that big Z is starting with that automatic mid range jumper hes done over his career. Thankfully joel anthony is now out of there hes def not a starter in the nba
Can't wait til Mike Miller comes back hes the Heats Version of Lamar Odom.. Ball Handler, can drive and lights out from beyond the 3. good rebounder at 6'8 but again like a brand new fish in your aquarium has to get acclimated again.
Our crunch time line up:
pg - Lebron
sg - D wade (will guard opposing pgs)
sf - Miller
pf - Bosh
C - Big Z/Jamaal Magloire
Lakers cant see that :P
It's Boston they have to worry about. ;)
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the eastern conference finals is gonna be the REAL Nba finals
similar to how the Kings-Lakers games 10 years ago were better than the Lakers/Nets games
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Memphis pulls off a stunner last night at the end to beat miami!
celtics play today at 12:!5 8)
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Haslem is done for the year of 2010, Heat front court is about as thick as a piece of paper right now. Anthony and Magloire are beyond worthless. How come they even have jobs?
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Haslem is done for the year of 2010, Heat front court is about as thick as a piece of paper right now. Anthony and Magloire are beyond worthless. How come they even have jobs?
wat'd u expect the rest of team would be when they signed lebronze, wade and bosh, Z is solid but they need another legitiment center, not a filler like anthony. their back court is average (obviously excluding lebronze and wade) with chalmers, house, miller (when he gets back) and jones.
theyll prob do better next year with some upgrades, i dont see them getting out of the east conference this year.
but mad props to the griz! love that team.
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it's bad if they lose to Indiana at home and Wade was just 1-13 ::)
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Haslem is done for the year of 2010, Heat front court is about as thick as a piece of paper right now. Anthony and Magloire are beyond worthless. How come they even have jobs?
wat'd u expect the rest of team would be when they signed lebronze, wade and bosh, Z is solid but they need another legitiment center, not a filler like anthony. their back court is average (obviously excluding lebronze and wade) with chalmers, house, miller (when he gets back) and jones.
Heat honestly would be better off trading Chris Bosh for some big men who actually hustle. Actually, Heat would be better off trading Bosh just to clear up their capspace. Even in games where Bosh actually puts up good numbers, he STILL looks like he's hurting the team when you watch them play. Miami doesn't need anymore fake stars like Bosh, they need big men who actually fill the roles of big men.
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sup?
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awful start, I gotta wait till they have more games under their belt to judge it better but all that big hype was for nothing. this team ain't touching ,at all, teams like the early 00's lakers, 86 celtics, 92 bulls or the 87 lakers, at least from what I'm seeing, and Bosh is a big liability, I already knew it, too soft. if this keeps on like this, lakers got this, at least this year, that team is too deep also.
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They will never be under the cap and they don't have any trade assets they can give up... their only ways to improve are 1) firing their clearly overstrained coach, 2) trading bosh for a real nigga and 3) signing a dope MLE player (well, for next season)
1) will happen sooner or later, no doubt about it.
as for 2), I'm not sure. who could they trade for? there's no way they can get guys like howard, duncan or gasol. horford would do wonders for them, but I don't think they can get him either. niggas like brand, z-bo or boozer aren't the answer either, it would be the same shit with them.
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heat are signing Eric Dampier lol
i still believe this team will be scary come 2011 but lol @ the 8-6 start
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they decided to waive stackhouse instead of sending some trash rookie to the d-league
damn, way to go out like that
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they decided to waive stackhouse instead of sending some trash rookie to the d-league
damn, way to go out like that
lol guess it shows how much Stack can or cannot contribute
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On a different note- The Heat are fuckin hard to play against on 2k11.
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On a different note- The Heat are fuckin hard to play against on 2k11.
They are unfuckablewit in that game lol.
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
Two questions:
1.) Do you honestly think Wade is better than LeBron... like, seriously? I mean, in all honesty. Not in that swagger-sense of simply stating "T-Mac > LeBron" to cause a riot and shit. I mean seriously... do you think Wade > LeBron?
2.) How can someone who can't handle an offense average 9 assists in the first place? How is that theoretically possible?
Even their coach doesn't really know what to do, so of course the Heat play pretty chaotic. But they will figure it out, sooner or later. It's difficult to handle with 2 top 3 players, one soft ass top 20 player and a bunch of nobodies. But if they figure it out, you most definitely gon see LeBron handlin' a "real offense". Of course he can't have a superhuman stateline like he sometimes did in Cleveland, that is only natural.
Wade is the more skilled player...Down by 1 with 10 seconds to go, I'd rather have the ball in Wade's hands, no question. I also think a proper team built around Wade has a higher chance to succeed than a proper team built around LeBron. Same goes for T-Mac in his prime, that was no gimmick...LeBron is the greatest at collecting stats, better than anyone else. But he's clearly not the greatest at succeeding and leading a team to promise. Honestly, Wade's biggest problem throughout his career has been his health. If he was 100% to start the season, I believe it'd be pretty evident by now who the Heat truly belongs to.
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the eastern conference finals is gonna be the REAL Nba finals
similar to how the Kings-Lakers games 10 years ago were better than the Lakers/Nets games
LOL...what a joke
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On a different note- The Heat are fuckin hard to play against on 2k11.
They are unfuckablewit in that game lol.
A little different than what you predicted for them on the real NBA season, huh? LMAO
on a side note, is it me or has Beasley been a better player than Bosh this season? LOL. Miami woulda been better off signing LeBron and keeping Beasley instead of trading him for nothing and signing Bosh.
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Were in the bottom tier in the league in fkn Rebounding because Joel Anthony lacks size, big Z isnt mobile enough, Jamaal Magloire is slower than shit and our rookie Dex Pittman is RAW, Good signing by bringing in Dampier something that shouldve been done this summer and all he has to do is concentrate on defense clogging the lane and boxing out his man rebounding.
Beasley's talented no doubt but a ball stopper, he needs the ball in his hand in order to be effective and wouldnt be fit for this offense predicated on moving the ball around. Bosh is gonna benefit from the Dampier signing.. ive watched him get pushed out the paint going for boards hes just too small to be at the 5.. if he was going against KG/Gasol it would be fine but zach randolph tossed his ass around like a college freshmen getting booty raped in the big house every night
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
Two questions:
1.) Do you honestly think Wade is better than LeBron... like, seriously? I mean, in all honesty. Not in that swagger-sense of simply stating "T-Mac > LeBron" to cause a riot and shit. I mean seriously... do you think Wade > LeBron?
2.) How can someone who can't handle an offense average 9 assists in the first place? How is that theoretically possible?
Even their coach doesn't really know what to do, so of course the Heat play pretty chaotic. But they will figure it out, sooner or later. It's difficult to handle with 2 top 3 players, one soft ass top 20 player and a bunch of nobodies. But if they figure it out, you most definitely gon see LeBron handlin' a "real offense". Of course he can't have a superhuman stateline like he sometimes did in Cleveland, that is only natural.
Wade is the more skilled player...Down by 1 with 10 seconds to go, I'd rather have the ball in Wade's hands, no question. I also think a proper team built around Wade has a higher chance to succeed than a proper team built around LeBron. Same goes for T-Mac in his prime, that was no gimmick...LeBron is the greatest at collecting stats, better than anyone else. But he's clearly not the greatest at succeeding and leading a team to promise. Honestly, Wade's biggest problem throughout his career has been his health. If he was 100% to start the season, I believe it'd be pretty evident by now who the Heat truly belongs to.
Nigga, yousa foo', bro. Wade and Melo or even T-Mac sometimes appear like niggas witta better shot and therefore somehow better skills to the average nigga cause their shots look more flowy due to their less bulky bodies. It's all a misconception and a fucking MYTH. Wade and Melo always made significantly less 3s than LeBron and their percentages have always been just as bad if not worse, T-Mac's freethrows were not really better than LeBron's, not even in his fucking short prime. It's all a myth. Plus, health plays a role too, let's not act as if it's just luck. LeBron is a real nigga who can go through a basketball season like it ain't nothing, while Wade and T-Mac have the bodies of fragile bitches.
And that is not even touching how LeBron has a much better physique, is a freak of nature with crazy court vision who can pass and ballhandle like a PG in the body of a PF. None of them niggas is fucking with LeBron. Wade got sent to the line 40 times a game just for missing layups and won the Finals MVP and since then niggas think that nigga is clutch and shit. Any All-Star could have done that. Even Iverson could have pulled it off.
Plus niggas is shittin' on LeBron for having his head down in a hopeless playoff series against the Celtics while West got his dick sucked by his mom, yet they forget what a real nigga he was in the 2 consecutive years in the playoff series against the Pistons way back in the day.
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Everyone is looking for a scapegoat in this Miami situation. Seriously, it's November. Wake me up in February when the Heat are killing the East, except Boston. Tonight they got killed by Orlando, who they beat earlier. What this tells me is they hype was so big, after their Boston whopping, they decided to just go out and play. The thing was that LeBron and Wade were taking off and Bosh was left behind. Then as they got deeper into the season Wade has been nursing an injury and now LeBron has to take over. The problem is LeBron is does not have the killer instinct to be that guy. When Wade takes over, then the team will go back to winning. Not that LeBron is not a great talent, he is maybe the best raw talent in NBA history. But at 25, he has yet to develop that great leadership ability as MJ or Kobe in their late 20's. It will come, but in 2010, they have to learn their roles and learn how to play together. I know Wade is frustrated because his been to the title before, and his expecting it now. I see Miami as the 2011-2012 NBA champions, maybe the last NBA title in history if the Mayans have their way. But this year, it's Lakers/Boston 3.
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hahahaha 8-7! LOL Boston may get that #1 seed after all :D
not that i expect it lol.
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hahahaha 8-7! LOL Boston may get that #1 seed after all :D
not that i expect it lol.
Yeah if Miami does not get at least one of the top 2 seeds they are gonna have a tough road in the playoffs.
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id love to see Boston get that #1 seed could care less who gets 2 :)
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id love to see Boston get that #1 seed could care less who gets 2 :)
Yeah it is looking like it is theirs to lose right now. They playing head and shoulders above everyone else in the conference
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can the heat go 8-8- tonight?
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7even your team is up next
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7even your team is up next
should be good.
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
Two questions:
1.) Do you honestly think Wade is better than LeBron... like, seriously? I mean, in all honesty. Not in that swagger-sense of simply stating "T-Mac > LeBron" to cause a riot and shit. I mean seriously... do you think Wade > LeBron?
2.) How can someone who can't handle an offense average 9 assists in the first place? How is that theoretically possible?
Even their coach doesn't really know what to do, so of course the Heat play pretty chaotic. But they will figure it out, sooner or later. It's difficult to handle with 2 top 3 players, one soft ass top 20 player and a bunch of nobodies. But if they figure it out, you most definitely gon see LeBron handlin' a "real offense". Of course he can't have a superhuman stateline like he sometimes did in Cleveland, that is only natural.
Wade is the more skilled player...Down by 1 with 10 seconds to go, I'd rather have the ball in Wade's hands, no question. I also think a proper team built around Wade has a higher chance to succeed than a proper team built around LeBron. Same goes for T-Mac in his prime, that was no gimmick...LeBron is the greatest at collecting stats, better than anyone else. But he's clearly not the greatest at succeeding and leading a team to promise. Honestly, Wade's biggest problem throughout his career has been his health. If he was 100% to start the season, I believe it'd be pretty evident by now who the Heat truly belongs to.
Nigga, yousa foo', bro. Wade and Melo or even T-Mac sometimes appear like niggas witta better shot and therefore somehow better skills to the average nigga cause their shots look more flowy due to their less bulky bodies. It's all a misconception and a fucking MYTH. Wade and Melo always made significantly less 3s than LeBron and their percentages have always been just as bad if not worse, T-Mac's freethrows were not really better than LeBron's, not even in his fucking short prime. It's all a myth. Plus, health plays a role too, let's not act as if it's just luck. LeBron is a real nigga who can go through a basketball season like it ain't nothing, while Wade and T-Mac have the bodies of fragile bitches.
And that is not even touching how LeBron has a much better physique, is a freak of nature with crazy court vision who can pass and ballhandle like a PG in the body of a PF. None of them niggas is fucking with LeBron. Wade got sent to the line 40 times a game just for missing layups and won the Finals MVP and since then niggas think that nigga is clutch and shit. Any All-Star could have done that. Even Iverson could have pulled it off.
Plus niggas is shittin' on LeBron for having his head down in a hopeless playoff series against the Celtics while West got his dick sucked by his mom, yet they forget what a real nigga he was in the 2 consecutive years in the playoff series against the Pistons way back in the day.
SKILL really isn't all about shot...in your rant, you mention nothing of foot-work, ability to create your own shot, knowing where/when to pick your spots, fundamentals, back-to-the-basket game, and proper execution. But if you wanna talk about shooting, why are you not considering mid-range game? T-Mac was a great mid-range shooter, Wade is good as well...LeBron really still needs to improve his mid-range game. And as for his three ball, he is either on or off. When he's off, he can't hit a three to save his life. When he's on, he'll hit threes in bunches. Very streaky shooter, which is due to poor shooting mechanics. T-Mac, clearly, has/had a more consistent shot than LeBron, and same with Wade, to a lesser extent. But that is not what makes them more skilled. Bottom line, if LeBron were as great as people say/said he is/was, he'd not only have better accomplishments under his belt.. the Heat would also be doing a lot better than they currently are. If you wanna put players in classes, LeBron is currently in or right around the Wade/T-Mac/Vince Carter (prime years) class. Not the upper echelon of players, the Magic/Jordan/Bird/Kobe class....said it many times before, and I'll say it many times again.
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LEbrons prime years SHIT ON t-mac or d-wade...and even Kobe's 35 point year where the laekrs couldnt win shit
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LEbrons prime years SHIT ON t-mac or d-wade...and even Kobe's 35 point year where the laekrs couldnt win shit
right lol
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What a joke...Wade is averaging more points than LeBron on less attempts. Aside from the 1st game, LeBron has clearly looked lost on offense compared to Wade.
Wade is also getting spoonfed by LeBron while he ain't passing the ball to save his life.. and their attempts are actually equal. Stop sippin' that haterade nigga, hatin' LeBron ain't hip no more, it's mainstream now.
you already know what i think of lebrons game...and that was way before anyone else discovered it.
Two questions:
1.) Do you honestly think Wade is better than LeBron... like, seriously? I mean, in all honesty. Not in that swagger-sense of simply stating "T-Mac > LeBron" to cause a riot and shit. I mean seriously... do you think Wade > LeBron?
2.) How can someone who can't handle an offense average 9 assists in the first place? How is that theoretically possible?
Even their coach doesn't really know what to do, so of course the Heat play pretty chaotic. But they will figure it out, sooner or later. It's difficult to handle with 2 top 3 players, one soft ass top 20 player and a bunch of nobodies. But if they figure it out, you most definitely gon see LeBron handlin' a "real offense". Of course he can't have a superhuman stateline like he sometimes did in Cleveland, that is only natural.
Wade is the more skilled player...Down by 1 with 10 seconds to go, I'd rather have the ball in Wade's hands, no question. I also think a proper team built around Wade has a higher chance to succeed than a proper team built around LeBron. Same goes for T-Mac in his prime, that was no gimmick...LeBron is the greatest at collecting stats, better than anyone else. But he's clearly not the greatest at succeeding and leading a team to promise. Honestly, Wade's biggest problem throughout his career has been his health. If he was 100% to start the season, I believe it'd be pretty evident by now who the Heat truly belongs to.
Nigga, yousa foo', bro. Wade and Melo or even T-Mac sometimes appear like niggas witta better shot and therefore somehow better skills to the average nigga cause their shots look more flowy due to their less bulky bodies. It's all a misconception and a fucking MYTH. Wade and Melo always made significantly less 3s than LeBron and their percentages have always been just as bad if not worse, T-Mac's freethrows were not really better than LeBron's, not even in his fucking short prime. It's all a myth. Plus, health plays a role too, let's not act as if it's just luck. LeBron is a real nigga who can go through a basketball season like it ain't nothing, while Wade and T-Mac have the bodies of fragile bitches.
And that is not even touching how LeBron has a much better physique, is a freak of nature with crazy court vision who can pass and ballhandle like a PG in the body of a PF. None of them niggas is fucking with LeBron. Wade got sent to the line 40 times a game just for missing layups and won the Finals MVP and since then niggas think that nigga is clutch and shit. Any All-Star could have done that. Even Iverson could have pulled it off.
Plus niggas is shittin' on LeBron for having his head down in a hopeless playoff series against the Celtics while West got his dick sucked by his mom, yet they forget what a real nigga he was in the 2 consecutive years in the playoff series against the Pistons way back in the day.
SKILL really isn't all about shot...in your rant, you mention nothing of foot-work, ability to create your own shot, knowing where/when to pick your spots, fundamentals, back-to-the-basket game, and proper execution. But if you wanna talk about shooting, why are you not considering mid-range game? T-Mac was a great mid-range shooter, Wade is good as well...LeBron really still needs to improve his mid-range game. And as for his three ball, he is either on or off. When he's off, he can't hit a three to save his life. When he's on, he'll hit threes in bunches. Very streaky shooter, which is due to poor shooting mechanics. T-Mac, clearly, has/had a more consistent shot than LeBron, and same with Wade, to a lesser extent. But that is not what makes them more skilled. Bottom line, if LeBron were as great as people say/said he is/was, he'd not only have better accomplishments under his belt.. the Heat would also be doing a lot better than they currently are. If you wanna put players in classes, LeBron is currently in or right around the Wade/T-Mac/Vince Carter (prime years) class. Not the upper echelon of players, the Magic/Jordan/Bird/Kobe class....said it many times before, and I'll say it many times again.
well put, even though, overall, imo, LeBron is better than T-Mac and Vince were, and maybe even Wade, while I do agree that he's not in that upper echelon you've talked about, but I do believe and hope he's not in his prime yet, if he can develop those things you mentioned, with all he has now, he could be one of the best ever, who knows, maybe the best, I don't know though, only time will tell.
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LEbrons prime years SHIT ON t-mac or d-wade...and even Kobe's 35 point year where the laekrs couldnt win shit
And if the Lakers win the NBA title this year??? Dude, no one cares what you think, at the end of the year, show me the titles.
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LEbrons prime years SHIT ON t-mac or d-wade...and even Kobe's 35 point year where the laekrs couldnt win shit
And if the Lakers win the NBA title this year??? Dude, no one cares what you think, at the end of the year, show me the titles.
robery horry was better than Barkley too huh?
if titles meant everything Bill Russell and Yogi Berra would be the two singular greatest players in North American sporting history. (not that I see anything wrong with that haha...)
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LEbrons prime years SHIT ON t-mac or d-wade...and even Kobe's 35 point year where the laekrs couldnt win shit
And if the Lakers win the NBA title this year??? Dude, no one cares what you think, at the end of the year, show me the titles.
robery horry was better than Barkley too huh?
if titles meant everything Bill Russell and Yogi Berra would be the two singular greatest players in North American sporting history. (not that I see anything wrong with that haha...)
For real, people always overlook it & say, "YEAH, BUT KOBE LED HIS TEAM! THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE". But without Robert Horry, they might not win. Players like Horry is what LeBron didn't have.
So how you going to say "show me the rings" like Kobe is doing it alone. That's why people don't like Kobe. The Saints win the Superbowl, nobody says "Drew Brees won it", the Yankees win the World Series, nobody says "Derek Jeter won it". But the Lakers win the Finals with easily the most stacked team in the league, from starters to bench to even coach & then "Kobe is winning the rings". The ignorance is absurd lmfao.
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I've never heard a SINGLE person even try to present a case for Yogi Berra (10 rings) as the best baseball player, or even the best Yankee of all time. Even though he had 3 MVPs to go with the 10 rings some people still think Johnny Bench was better as a catcher too.
so yeah....rings don't mean everything. they ARE a nice bonus but unless M Dogg or NIK is ready to call Bill Russell the best player of all time that ain't a valid arguement to me
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9-8 lol this team needs Mike Miller bad
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Lets be honest... we all know the Heat will be near the top by the end of the regular season. But it is funny to see them struggle so early. Spoelstra is literally shitting himself every time they concede a basket, knowing his arse is on the line.
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9-8 lol this team needs Mike Miller bad
mike miller ain't gon change all that, what they need is to gel better, maybe a better coach and some interior defense.
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Lakers lose to Indiana despite getting 85 combined minutes from Kobe and Gasshole
lolz
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^Gasol and the bench played shitty...Artest needs to step his game up as well. Still, we're nowhere near the awful level of play Miami is currently on.
PS...you gone change the settings in ya fantasy league?
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^Gasol and the bench played shitty...Artest needs to step his game up as well. Still, we're nowhere near the awful level of play Miami is currently on.
PS...you gone change the settings in ya fantasy league?
i dont want to do commish only because there may be cases where im not around for a week straight and cant approve trades
the cant cust list i may just get rid of tho
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good game for the heat tonight against the wizz - the 3rd quarter showed us signs of what will come eventually
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^Gasol and the bench played shitty...Artest needs to step his game up as well. Still, we're nowhere near the awful level of play Miami is currently on.
PS...you gone change the settings in ya fantasy league?
i dont want to do commish only because there may be cases where im not around for a week straight and cant approve trades
the cant cust list i may just get rid of tho
at least speed up the days it takes for a trade to go through, mayn...too long the current way. can't cut list is also pretty useless in an 8-teamer, so that would also be nice.
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hey laker fans....how about the 4 game losing streak?
celtics beat portland for you (not that the lakers have any challengers for the #1 seed lol)
heat win big tonight too
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Hyped for tomorrow night. 8)
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Hyped for tomorrow night. 8)
me too dan glberts faggot ass is back at it again trying to get miami in trouble now. what a bitch. i hope he dies.
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Looks like the Heat just found their groove - perfect timing - to demolish the Cavs. I'm hoping for a riot after a sassy LeBron dunk to make the game 60-24 at the end of the 1st half. How funny would it be if a bunch of 130 lbs guys attacked him?
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Looks like the Heat just found their groove - perfect timing - to demolish the Cavs. I'm hoping for a riot after a sassy LeBron dunk to make the game 60-24 at the end of the 1st half. How funny would it be if a bunch of 130 lbs guys attacked him?
On some Pistons-Pacers shit LMFAO.
I have a feeling it'll just be a massive amount of boos from introductions to the final buzzer.
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big game tonight!
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HE THREW UP THE CHALK! YES! 8)
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what a dominant first half for Miami
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29 points, 7 dimes and 4 boards with 16 minutes of ball left
lebron is pissing on his critics tonight
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That was probably the best individual quarter performance of the season so far. What was he like? 10-11? lol
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something like that haha i can't wait to see highlights
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great game for lebron, showed attitude performing under "pressure"/criticism. gotta see him/the heat do this against the best teams though.
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Imagine this guy played the fourth quarter. I feel like if he wanted to, he coulda easily dropped 50 on them lmfao.
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That chalk thing is retarded. Just another attention whoring antic. I won't deny that he's a highlight machine and is fun to watch, but everything he does makes me dislike him more.
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Great game from Lebron!
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i see the lakers finally won a game last night...granted it was the wackass kings
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lol so the Heat are on a 9 game win streak and suddenly dubcc's been silent
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mike miller is not even back
what's up with the exception they got because of haslem's injury.. can they sign a 3 mil nigga now or what
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thankfully the Celtcs have won just as many games during the Heats winning streak lol
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Heat beat Cavs again
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10 game winning streak coming into tonights game at the knicks im betting for lebron to have a huge game.
Mike Miller's on his way back recovering from that preseason injury and looking for an X mas return date at the la lakers
that games gonna be the ish
Pg Lebron
sg D wade
sf Mike Miller
pf C bosh
c Eric Dampier
Play makers everywhere
That rookie we sent to the D league's gonna be better than Andrew Bynum. Dexter Pitman hes 6'11 and trimmed down from 400 lbs a couple of years ago to 290 lbs and all we need him to do is play D and rebound :)
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The 3 little whores are finished on Christmas
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The 3 little whores are finished on Christmas
not if they keep playing this way and all the Armenians in Cali are still hating Kobe lol
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dedicated to lebronze:
It's like a throne that he dont even own
He wont sit down, given the crown he just throws it around
It's like a joke he's like a king, but he dont rule a thing
He dont want the diamonds, want the gold or want the jewelry
He dont want the fame dont want the lute he's in this for a sport
Runnin circles with the competition on the court
He appreciates your support but he aint beggin for it
And you cant love it you can hate it but you cant ignore it
You cant be that ignorant but you can try to sell him short
But you cant fuck with his last joint or the one before it
And he was gonna raise hell like them country boys
And if I'm frontin then you better come confront me for it
http://www.youtube.com/v/WDlqdkP30Xs?fs=1&hl=en_US
cmon even eminem agrees
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^In those bars he says "He's running circles around his competition on the court" & "You can't fuck with him" lol.
The only line you like is "It's like a throne that he don't even own", which is funny because Kobe won with Shaq, chief.
LeBron just dropped a triple-double tonight lol.
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^In those bars he says "He's running circles around his competition on the court" & "You can't fuck with him" lol.
The only line you like is "It's like a throne that he don't even own", which is funny because Kobe won with Shaq, chief.
LeBron just dropped a triple-double tonight lol.
lol, there is no competition with kobe and lebron, kobe has won this discussion by far. lol shaq wouldnt of wont it without kobe
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Cleveland 10 game losing streak, Heat 11 game winning streak. Don't fuck with the nigga LeBron, yo. How are Gilbert's championship guarantees being received meanwhile?
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^In those bars he says "He's running circles around his competition on the court" & "You can't fuck with him" lol.
The only line you like is "It's like a throne that he don't even own", which is funny because Kobe won with Shaq, chief.
LeBron just dropped a triple-double tonight lol.
lol shaq wouldnt of wont it without kobe
Alright, you can say that. But it's the same situation. Two amazing players playing together & they were a dynasty. Don't be a hater because it's someone you don't want to see win & not Kobe.
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8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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thanks Dallas for helping out the C's
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the big XMAS game is coming up yall
pay attention for Hack Wilson updates in this thread for the games comin up yall
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Heat are rollin on all cylanders against the Suns so far tonight but I like the Suns new pieces
still not sure why they got rid of J-rich but bringing in Gortat is great if they play him 25+ minutes a game
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Heat > Lakers, clearly.
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too bad we are in December :laugh: ...
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too bad we are in December :laugh: ...
Kinda wish the Lakers were winning by 15 now to hear, "Well see, I told you the Heat can't handle the low-post presence, mwuaha".
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^^^^ they can't , Lakers are just pathetic right now ... I mean we get blown out by the Bucks
Miami is a good team but right now they wouldn't win a seven game series against the C's
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wow, that was brutal
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^^^^ they can't , Lakers are just pathetic right now ... I mean we get blown out by the Bucks
Miami is a good team but right now they wouldn't win a seven game series against the C's
They could very well lose to the Celtics.
They need to stay healthy though.
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lebron laid kobe the fuck out
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lebron laid kobe the fuck out
pretty much. bosh was more or less bullying people in the paint
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As a Spurs fan....I think we should beat LA on Tuesday. But whatever Kobe is projected to score that game, id probably take the over if i was betting. He's pissed, Im sure he is gonna come out firing.
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^^^^ Kobe needs to get back to that scorer mentality , he has been way too passive for some games and his D has been flat out terrible the whole season ... the whole team is lethargic right now and each player needs to focus and play with agressivity ... at one point Gasol didn't even know what offensive set they were running , Kobe had to yell at him to set a screen ... WTF
How many blowouts this team needs to understand they have to go to work RIGHT NOW ?
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What a terrible game.. It wasn't even that Miami was that good, the Lakers just sucked. It's like they couldn't care less.
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It wasn't even that Miami was that good
ok ::)
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What a terrible game..
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im starting to believe what magic was saying post game, the lakers cant afford to just put in a little bit of effort anymore and expect to win, he mentioned that this team is 3 to 4 steps slower than they were the season before now with everyone aging. No wonder he sold his stake in the lakers.
this laker team really reminds of the year, after we won the championship back 2006-2007. They just mailed in the season and said fk it!! You can see kobe is visibly upset so nobody can really say that this was a meaningless game.
WTF is wrong with ron artest grabbing lebron in a headlock lol still cant believe lebron got a T for getting out of the headlock, he even was like get out of here man! Gasol was getting pushed around he had trouble against big Z's 7'3 Length, and Eric Dampier was setting some punishing screens for D wade and Lebron james to get around. The d took the lakers out the triangle :)
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It wasn't even that Miami was that good
ok ::)
lol, for real. That defense was spectacular.
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in the words of charles barkley, that was turrable even as a lakers fan i was disgusted by the way they were playin very unmotivated and wit no passion
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Miami D was very good , the problem is we never attacked it .. never went to the basket , the Kobe-Gasol pick n roll was efficient but it was way too late ... on the other end Lakers play solid D in the 1st quarter but then they decided for whatever reason to throw unecessary double teams which resulted in wide open shots for Miami .... then we get burned on every pick n roll in the second half
For a potential Finals matchup , Miami would match well with us... but Boston is a very bad matchup for them
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Its the Lakers, so their is no reason to panic for ya'll, BUT the Lakers have only played 6 games against winning teams, and are 2-4...
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^^^^ it's not panic time , it's just frustrated as a huge fan to watch that poor level of play , effort and focus ... some teams have improved and the Lakers should be aware that having HCA against the C's is crucial ... time to step it up
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lakers need to step up that pick and roll D
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Lakers need to step up every aspect of their game ... and Phil needs to start coaching in games aswell , the fuck is doing sometimes :grumpy:
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ended up being internet-less for Xmas but seeing the LAkers lose makes up for the C's losing :)
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LOL@all the excited ass mufuckaz up in this thread...this was like a Game 7 Finals for the Heat. Lakers lose these Christmas games year after year. Who won the big Christmas game last year? Yup. We almost play these games like it's pre-season. This is nothing new, Lakers "struggle" (relax) in stretches every single season. Ya'll happy Heat fans puttin too much stake in this, just like the Cav fans of last year. :-*
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^ I think it's obvious that PJ's teams peak later in the year, but it seems like they should place a little more importance in pre-season games, we all know how important home court is in the playoffs.
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Kobe didn't strike me as a nigga who felt like relaxing was the best idea..
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There is a clear double standard here though, if Heat were to lose then a lot of people would talk shit about how there's so much talent in one team but they still can't beat the Lakers. Sports wise, I think it's great that the Heat has become one of the most hated teams ever to be in sports. This is great no matter what happens.
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There is a clear double standard here though, if Heat were to lose then a lot of people would talk shit about how there's so much talent in one team but they still can't beat the Lakers. Sports wise, I think it's great that the Heat has become one of the most hated teams ever to be in sports. This is great no matter what happens.
yep
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There is a clear double standard here though, if Heat were to lose then a lot of people would talk shit about how there's so much talent in one team but they still can't beat the Lakers. Sports wise, I think it's great that the Heat has become one of the most hated teams ever to be in sports. This is great no matter what happens.
Having a villain is good for the league. Especially if that villain is winning. During the MJ years the league thrived because you had villains like the Pistons, and the Knicks.....and then you had the conquering hero in MJ.
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the Lakers have lost 4 of their last 6 by over 15 points
meanwhile Rondo is back and Boston won by 14 today 8) all is right.
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the Lakers have lost 4 of their last 6 by over 15 points
meanwhile Rondo is back and Boston won by 14 today 8) all is right.
The game tonight was brutal. Memphis beatin that ass??
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Memphis ripped them apart.
I think we all know Lakers will still be in the NBA finals and in with a shout of winning again...but its nice to see them getting battered from time to time by average teams.
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Memphis ripped them apart.
I think we all know Lakers will still be in the NBA finals and in with a shout of winning again...but its nice to see them getting battered from time to time by average teams.
at this point, I wouldnt count on the Lakers making the finals this year.....The Spurs and Mavs are ALOT better right now, and the Mavs have more depth than the Lakers IMO
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Memphis ripped them apart.
I think we all know Lakers will still be in the NBA finals and in with a shout of winning again...but its nice to see them getting battered from time to time by average teams.
at this point, I wouldnt count on the Lakers making the finals this year.....The Spurs and Mavs are ALOT better right now, and the Mavs have more depth than the Lakers IMO
We say this every year about this time when lakers have a mini-falter. They will be there or thereabouts. Either way theyre the defending champs and I'd put a lot more money on them reaching the finals than the Spurs or Mavs, even taking into consideration how much better the Spurs/Mavs records are right now at this point in the season.
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Memphis ripped them apart.
I think we all know Lakers will still be in the NBA finals and in with a shout of winning again...but its nice to see them getting battered from time to time by average teams.
yeah
and the Spurs are getting an inside track on home court advantage
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Memphis ripped them apart.
I think we all know Lakers will still be in the NBA finals and in with a shout of winning again...but its nice to see them getting battered from time to time by average teams.
at this point, I wouldnt count on the Lakers making the finals this year.....The Spurs and Mavs are ALOT better right now, and the Mavs have more depth than the Lakers IMO
We say this every year about this time when lakers have a mini-falter. They will be there or thereabouts. Either way theyre the defending champs and I'd put a lot more money on them reaching the finals than the Spurs or Mavs, even taking into consideration how much better the Spurs/Mavs records are right now at this point in the season.
Not really man. The last couple years the Lakers were the best team in the West for most of the season. This year there are two teams who are definitely better right now. The Mavs I never really worry about them winning a championship...or even going (could happen again tho, never know). The Spurs have the ability and mentality to win championships, we know that. This is the first time in the last 3 years that we have been actually healthy. There is a long way to go still obviously, but if the playoffs started right now the Lakers would get killed by the Spurs in a playoff series. Again, I dont think the Lakers will be playing this bad all year. But the West is up for grabs for sure this year, and the Lakers are fighting like a lot of other teams.
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the HEATLES lmao @ lebron
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Isn't it funny as fuck how the Heat have won pretty much every game since they owned the Cavs in their much anticipated first game, all while the Cavs have lost pretty much every game since then and both teams started that game with almost equal records?
Meanwhile the Cavs are now on pace for the worst record in the league, all while they were the best regular season team repeatedly.
The nigga LeBron is making a difference, yo.
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the HEATLES lmao @ lebron
He needs to stop lol
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The Heatles is the greatest nickname ever.
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The Heatles is the greatest nickname ever.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/backporch.fanhouse.com/media/2011/01/heatles-2-bp.jpg)
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LOLOL, I love it. 8)
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meanwhile RONDO got 22 assists last night
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Why is Miller complete trash? I know he has missed a lot of games and all, but come on..
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^^^^ how can he be complete trash when he's not getting consistant minutes ? On one hand you could say that Spoelstra should take advantage of the Heat easily winning some of their games to put Miller in the regular rotations but on the other hand Jones is doing at very solid job so cutting his PT wouln't be smart
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yeah Miller WAS going to be a starter or 6th man but the team right now is playing so well they don't even need him
this Miami team is amazing....funny how they won't beat my Celtics in the playoffs :D
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miller is basically a pure shooter (in terms of main talent, we all know he just isnt a shooter, hes a good playmaker, and is average finishin inside), shooters need minutes and basically warm up or shoot themselves out of a slump
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im shocked at how much Bosh is scoring
i was expecting him to go down to like 12-15 PPG with those other 2 hogging all the points haha
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There trying to bring back miller slowly, he's gotta get his bball legs back, dude looks like hes been on a steady diet of del taco for the past couple of months. I have no doubt he'll be a big part of the team at the march point in the season and off into the playoffs. JJ is making some great plays with his shooting and team defense, he's long and wiry.
Bosh is an OLYMPIAN :) they need to run more sets for him though.. were getting Haslem back around march, i look for him to take J howards minutes immediately. This team at full strength is gonna be so ill, they already put pressure on you for a full 48 minutes but its gonna get real interestin. Coach of the month SPO , players of the month Lebron and Wade for the mo of December ;)
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lebron closing out the game @ center was a nice twist
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looks like Bron has a new career high in Miami
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They are too good.
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They are too good.
When both Wade and Bron are on, they are too good. And their defense is sick.
However, I still don't know if this type of ball translates to playoff wins. Alot of their points come on the break, and I also don't think they will be able to defend the post against Boston, L.A., or Orlando.
As for the regular season, these guys are gonna put up 65 wins.
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they won't beat the Celtics :D
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They are too good.
When both Wade and Bron are on, they are too good. And their defense is sick.
However, I still don't know if this type of ball translates to playoff wins. Alot of their points come on the break, and I also don't think they will be able to defend the post against Boston, L.A., or Orlando.
As for the regular season, these guys are gonna put up 65 wins.
Well, only watching the playoffs will tell.
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They are too good.
If they're "too good" they wouldnt have 9 losses. I'm reserving judgement until the playoffs on them because the Cavs (albeit without D.Wade of course so slightly different) were incredible in the regular season but it never translated into playoff success.
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lol its going to be the lebron curse, have the best record in the league and still wont make it to the finals
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They are too good.
If they're "too good" they wouldnt have 9 losses. I'm reserving judgement until the playoffs on them because the Cavs (albeit without D.Wade of course so slightly different) were incredible in the regular season but it never translated into playoff success.
Ehh, they said it would take a little time & it did. But they certainly have it under contol now.
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they got 8 of those loses when they were still learning how each other plays
they have 1 loss in their last 22 games or whatever it is, shit is over
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They are too good.
If they're "too good" they wouldnt have 9 losses. I'm reserving judgement until the playoffs on them because the Cavs (albeit without D.Wade of course so slightly different) were incredible in the regular season but it never translated into playoff success.
Yeah, u have to wait till the playoffs....but this team right now is VERY good. They are playing better ball right now than the Cavs ever were. You could expect them to start off slow. Its hard to throw three guys who are all used to being the #1 option into a starting lineup of 5 players and expect them just to mesh right away.
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everything turned around since the heat shitted on the cavs for the first time in december. the heat finally took off, while the cavs have become a completely broken team without any hope left for them. they will even have a hard time courting a promising draft player because of the way they shitted on lebron after he worked his butt off for them for more than six years. how dumb must gilbert feel for those "championship coming to cleveland soon" remarks?
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Lmao @ Eliot being in this thread shit talking non stop when the heat were finding an identity and now that they look unbeatable hes nowhere to be found
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everything turned around since the heat shitted on the cavs for the first time in december. the heat finally took off, while the cavs have become a completely broken team without any hope left for them. they will even have a hard time courting a promising draft player because of the way they shitted on lebron after he worked his butt off for them for more than six years. how dumb must gilbert feel for those "championship coming to cleveland soon" remarks?
if I were Gilbert I'd never speak in public again
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LMFAO @ LeBron's Tweet.
Dan Gilbert is on suicide watch.
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LMFAO @ LeBron's Tweet.
Dan Gilbert is on suicide watch.
Lebron is a hypocrite for that tweet. Saying "you shouldnt wish bad on others", when he clearly has tweeted during his ex-team's worst ever performance to be spiteful. Yes, it may have been a retort to Gilbert, but Lebron has just shown his bitter, ungentlemanly side yet again.
I've no issue with him as a player, he's superb. But as a man, he's clearly a bit of a cunt.
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LMFAO @ LeBron's Tweet.
Dan Gilbert is on suicide watch.
Lebron is a hypocrite for that tweet. Saying "you shouldnt wish bad on others", when he clearly has tweeted during his ex-team's worst ever performance to be spiteful. Yes, it may have been a retort to Gilbert, but Lebron has just shown his bitter, ungentlemanly side yet again.
I've no issue with him as a player, he's superb. But as a man, he's clearly a bit of a cunt.
Its what happens when you take a young kid and give them the world at 18. I dont have a problem with the tweet...EXCEPT for the fact that its also a slap in the face to the Cavs players. If he wanted to shit on Gilbert...great....Gilbert is a piece of shit. If he wanted to take a shot at Cleveland for the way they have been acting....great. Who cares, players have talked shit about cities, etc...for ages. But Id be willing to bet he has at least a couple guys on that team that he is still cool with. And he just shit on them too. He shoulda maybe thought twice about that part.
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i feel really bad for mo and jamison
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hahahaah i knew the clips would keep their tempo and win, BEAT THE HEAT!
karma bit lebronze right back in the ass
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
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hahahaah i knew the clips would keep their tempo and win, BEAT THE HEAT!
karma bit lebronze right back in the ass
Oh yeah, 22-2 in their last 24. They suck.
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hahahaah i knew the clips would keep their tempo and win, BEAT THE HEAT!
karma bit lebronze right back in the ass
Oh yeah, 22-2 in their last 24. They suck.
lol i never seriously said they suck, when i did it was just fun n games, but i was seriously surprised how they sky rocketed to the 2nd in the league and 1st in the ecf
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
hes the worst owner in nba history. id say dan gilbert comes in close 2nd, not of what he said publicly about lebron, but the fact that instead of making GOOD MOVES to get the right pieces to WIN, he just made moves to make LEBRONZE happy.
let the players play and the GMs do their thing, lebron had way to much say and was way too spoiled in cleveland.
i was pretty upset that we traded away thorton and camby i thought they would complement the bench nicely
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Clippers are the only team in LA that can beat Miami at home
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
hes the worst owner in nba history. id say dan gilbert comes in close 2nd, not of what he said publicly about lebron, but the fact that instead of making GOOD MOVES to get the right pieces to WIN, he just made moves to make LEBRONZE happy.
let the players play and the GMs do their thing, lebron had way to much say and was way too spoiled in cleveland.
i was pretty upset that we traded away thorton and camby i thought they would complement the bench nicely
Sterling is the worst and it isnt close. Gilbert is a dumbass for the shit he said about LeBron lol. If you believe he gave LeBron all the players he wanted...well...what LeBron wanted turned the team from an NBA doormat to one of the top teams in the league. But Gilbert handled LeBron leaving the same way a 4 year old handles you taking away their favorite toy. If he had any class or dignity he would have just said..."Best of luck to LeBron...we'll keep fighting", or something along those lines. But as an owner, he just turned off every big name player in the league from ever wanting to go to Cleveland. And Cleveland itself turns most people off. So now he will be in a position to have to overpay anyone to come there.
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
hes the worst owner in nba history. id say dan gilbert comes in close 2nd, not of what he said publicly about lebron, but the fact that instead of making GOOD MOVES to get the right pieces to WIN, he just made moves to make LEBRONZE happy.
let the players play and the GMs do their thing, lebron had way to much say and was way too spoiled in cleveland.
i was pretty upset that we traded away thorton and camby i thought they would complement the bench nicely
Sterling is the worst and it isnt close. Gilbert is a dumbass for the shit he said about LeBron lol. If you believe he gave LeBron all the players he wanted...well...what LeBron wanted turned the team from an NBA doormat to one of the top teams in the league. But Gilbert handled LeBron leaving the same way a 4 year old handles you taking away their favorite toy. If he had any class or dignity he would have just said..."Best of luck to LeBron...we'll keep fighting", or something along those lines. But as an owner, he just turned off every big name player in the league from ever wanting to go to Cleveland. And Cleveland itself turns most people off. So now he will be in a position to have to overpay anyone to come there.
i just thought aquiring jamison was a move to make lebron happy, and not a wise pick up bball wise. 2 forwards that are ball dominant? jamison should of tooken the 6th man role and lead the bench (given that he adjusted to the system already)
gilbert was immature, but what lebron did isnt too different either.
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
hes the worst owner in nba history. id say dan gilbert comes in close 2nd, not of what he said publicly about lebron, but the fact that instead of making GOOD MOVES to get the right pieces to WIN, he just made moves to make LEBRONZE happy.
let the players play and the GMs do their thing, lebron had way to much say and was way too spoiled in cleveland.
i was pretty upset that we traded away thorton and camby i thought they would complement the bench nicely
Sterling is the worst and it isnt close. Gilbert is a dumbass for the shit he said about LeBron lol. If you believe he gave LeBron all the players he wanted...well...what LeBron wanted turned the team from an NBA doormat to one of the top teams in the league. But Gilbert handled LeBron leaving the same way a 4 year old handles you taking away their favorite toy. If he had any class or dignity he would have just said..."Best of luck to LeBron...we'll keep fighting", or something along those lines. But as an owner, he just turned off every big name player in the league from ever wanting to go to Cleveland. And Cleveland itself turns most people off. So now he will be in a position to have to overpay anyone to come there.
i just thought aquiring jamison was a move to make lebron happy, and not a wise pick up bball wise. 2 forwards that are ball dominant? jamison should of tooken the 6th man role and lead the bench (given that he adjusted to the system already)
gilbert was immature, but what lebron did isnt too different either.
IMO, the only thing LeBron could have done differently is not have that whole show dedicated to his decision. That shit was pretty lame. Leaving Cleveland...there's nothing wrong with that, its sports. Players leave all the time. Or even get traded with no notice. And him not letting Gilbert know what he was going to do....I dont care about that either. He doesnt have to. Again, if Gilbert traded him he wouldnt necessarily get any notice. People just dont like a player taking control of his destiny and doing what owers have always done. I might be wrong too, but didnt LeBron do them a favor by agreeing to a Sign and Trade....rather than just signing with the Heat? True it helped out the Heat, but it also gave the Cavs some future draft picks.
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The Clips have been on a roll lately ... it sucks they have started the season in a terrible way ... they would have a decent shot at making the playoffs
Theyre a strange team. They can be really dangerous. They beat us this year too in LA.
injuries, kaman and baron wasnt there in the start of the season. they had a mean frontcourt but griffin got injured thus camby got traded. griffins a franchise player and been labeled that since he got drafted.
they were suspected to hit the playoffs last year if griffin didnt get injured
I like some of the players on this team, but seriously...fuck Donald Sterling. Racist piece of shit. I dont wanna see his franchise ever do shit really.
hes the worst owner in nba history.
Man...Sterling definitely thinks he is a slave owner...
http://www.playerpress.com/articles/13118-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-shows-off-beautiful-black-bodies
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lebron = mvp
last night proves why
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lebron = mvp
last night proves why
The Kobe fans will more than likely just say it means Wade and Bosh really arent that good lol
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Even with Lebron , it would have been a loss ... if you watched Heat latest few games , you can see the team was tired and lacked energy on the defensive end ... they got away with 2OT wins in Milwaukee and Portland then lost to the Clippers with Lebron
Winning in Denver on a back to back is near impossible ( TNT was showing the Nuggets had only 6 losses in their latest 50 home games against teams on back to back game )
What's next ? Lebron supporting cast in Miami is garbage ? just LOL
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Must see TV tomorrow. Bulls-Heat 8)
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Should be a good game ... too bad Jooks is not playing, I think Bron and Wade will easily get to the rim , Boozer being horrible at defending the rim
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Should be a good game ... too bad Jooks is not playing, I think Bron and Wade will easily get to the rim , Boozer being horrible at defending the rim
Yeah and no real shot blocking threats inside for us (Chicago) right now. Might be able to steal it with Lebron not 100 percent and Miami a lil road weary.
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It's a winnable game for the Bulls no doubt ... I like that Chicago team , they are a solid SG away (and obviously a little more playoffs experience) to be a real title contender imo
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It's a winnable game for the Bulls no doubt ... I like that Chicago team , they are a solid SG away (and obviously a little more playoffs experience) to be a real title contender imo
Yeah I am kinda mad we basically gave JR Smith away for nothing right now. I would take a 10-15 ppg average from a SG more than anything lol. Mayo, Smith, Jackson someone they will have to pick up before the trade deadline.
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lebron = mvp
last night proves why
The Kobe fans will more than likely just say it means Wade and Bosh really arent that good lol
yeah those guys are barely above average :D
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on the real I hope Bron misses a few more games so Boston can rest lol
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Bosh and James are hurt... man Karma is a bitch.
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MUHAHAHAHA more proof LEBRON is the mvp
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Eh, the way they were playing when they were all healthy, fuck seeding, fuck home court advantage, as long as they are healthy come playoff time, they are guaranteed an Eastern Conference Finals vs. Boston.
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Bosh and James are hurt... man Karma is a bitch.
lol. I was thinking that same shit. Only one day after LeBron makes that comment and then immediately denies ever making the comment, he loses to Clippers, gets injured in the process, Bosh gets injured, Heat go on a 3 game losing streak. I'm sure LeBron has to be looking at that comment and saying "Why the hell did I ever say that" haha
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It's a winnable game for the Bulls no doubt ... I like that Chicago team , they are a solid SG away (and obviously a little more playoffs experience) to be a real title contender imo
Yeah I am kinda mad we basically gave JR Smith away for nothing right now. I would take a 10-15 ppg average from a SG more than anything lol. Mayo, Smith, Jackson someone they will have to pick up before the trade deadline.
Yeah J.R is kind of a bet cause of his attitude but I'd would have taken the risk .... He can score pts in a hurry , can create for others too ...
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not concerned at all about the minor injuries here and there.. it's giving mike miller a chance to work off all that weinersnitzel he ate while on recovery from his finger injury. For the heat to win the championship MM is going to have to replace James Jones in the rotation as he can drive, pass, shoot, rebound well and an underrated defender. While JJ is more of a spot up jump shooter
tomorrow vs hawks hoping for a lineup with
Dampier
Lebron
Mike Miller
JJ
Rio Chalmers
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i'm sure they'll be fine
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http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/27111830
LeBron, Wade and Bosh all sat out of practice. :o That's just bad luck.
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^PRACTICE? WE TALKIN' ABOUT PRACTICE?
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they're helpin out the Celtics get that hc advantage
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31-9 BABY orlando sucksss
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^PRACTICE? WE TALKIN' ABOUT PRACTICE?
AI truly took his team to the finals himself alone. to me dwade just doesnt cut it compared to him.
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^PRACTICE? WE TALKIN' ABOUT PRACTICE?
Bosh out, Lebron iffy, D-Wade likely vs. Hawks
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^PRACTICE? WE TALKIN' ABOUT PRACTICE?
Bosh out, Lebron iffy, D-Wade likely vs. Hawks
I wish they would all sit out. The East sucks, they might as well be granted a playoff birth already. Boston can have two of it's four sit out & still beat most teams (Oh, but four all-stars isn't "not being able to do it", that's just a "great team"; such haters (not you Ted, just most people); so Boston is basically given the first seed & then it doesn't even matter where the Heat finish.
To quote Ricky Bobby, "If you're not first, your last". Sure, that has zero relevance lol, but all I'm saying is if all three of them took off for three games, sure it would be three loses, but that's like a full week to recover from whatever & be fresh to go back on a 22-1 run. Then you can all sit, drop three more & do it again.
Bottom line, if these guys burn themselves out trying to make the playoffs in the easy Eastern Conference, they're gunna be fucked when they play Boston in the Conference Finals.
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another loss! look at Joel Athony's stat line from last night
a shitload of rebounds and 0-0 in FGs PASS THE BALL YOU TWO! :D
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16 boards
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^PRACTICE? WE TALKIN' ABOUT PRACTICE?
Bosh out, Lebron iffy, D-Wade likely vs. Hawks
I wish they would all sit out. The East sucks, they might as well be granted a playoff birth already. Boston can have two of it's four sit out & still beat most teams (Oh, but four all-stars isn't "not being able to do it", that's just a "great team"; such haters (not you Ted, just most people); so Boston is basically given the first seed & then it doesn't even matter where the Heat finish.
To quote Ricky Bobby, "If you're not first, your last". Sure, that has zero relevance lol, but all I'm saying is if all three of them took off for three games, sure it would be three loses, but that's like a full week to recover from whatever & be fresh to go back on a 22-1 run. Then you can all sit, drop three more & do it again.
Bottom line, if these guys burn themselves out trying to make the playoffs in the easy Eastern Conference, they're gunna be fucked when they play Boston in the Conference Finals.
That's not really how it works. If the constantly take games off, you lose chemestry. As we saw at the beginning of the season for the Heat, it is important for them to gel together, especially since this is their first year together.
As far as burning themselves out, I think that was the big problem with LeBron's Cavs. They had the best record in the NBA back-to-back, but it's hard to maitain that for so long during the grind of the playoffs.
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they'll be fine come playoff time
10 more wins and they're an 8 seed at worst lol
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btw where the fucks my man Eddie HOuse been?
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btw where the fucks my man Eddie HOuse been?
(http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=179042) (http://www.gifsoup.com/view/179042/slap.html) (http://www.gifsoup.com/)
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btw where the fucks my man Eddie HOuse been?
They flip between Chalmers & Arroyo; House doesn't get any run lol.
I don't even think Mike Miller has worked his way into the rotation yet lol.
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Mike Miller doesn't even look like a professional basketball player right now. Wtf has he done the last few months?!
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i hear hes injured again
probably was rushed back too early
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btw where the fucks my man Eddie HOuse been?
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he better be glad he didnt try that bullshit on Tony Allen
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SPURS pick up yet another game on the Fakers for the best in the west
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MAVERICKSSSSSSS
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SPURS pick up yet another game on the Fakers for the best in the west
you really hope the Lakers are not going to face one of your favorite teams in the Finals , do you ? I've got some news 4 you , it's not going to happen
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SPURS pick up yet another game on the Fakers for the best in the west
you really hope the Lakers are not going to face one of your favorite teams in the Finals , do you ? I've got some news 4 you , it's not going to happen
Overconfidence is never a good idea...
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SPURS pick up yet another game on the Fakers for the best in the west
you really hope the Lakers are not going to face one of your favorite teams in the Finals , do you ? I've got some news 4 you , it's not going to happen
Patriot fans said the same thing to me this year and I believed them
but the Spurs can def beat the Lakers in 7 with 4 home games
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and we have a Mike Miller sighting last night
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Miami been hurt by injuries lately
meanwhile big game for them tmrw and then Celtics vs Fakers
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final quarter was pretty nice thriller, but Eddie House saved the day :D
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LOL @ the LAkers falling apart today
Kobe: 38 minutes and 0 assists....OVER RATEDDDD
Pierce was taking yall to school today
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whys the sports forum so dead today?
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KEVIN DURANT CALLS CHRIS BOSH A "FAKE TOUGH GUY" hahahahaha
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KEVIN DURANT CALLS CHRIS BOSH A "FAKE TOUGH GUY" hahahahaha
which is retarded, than wtf is a "tough guy" in the nba? it aint like they gonna duke it out on the court, shit like this reminds me of how dumb and retarded these guys are. NONE of them are tough guys, all the tough guys left with the 80s, and plus if any of these wankstas (kenyon martin, KG, etc etc ) were real tough guys they wouldnt be in the NBA. theyd prob be dead, in prision, or a loser telling his stories to lil kids of how hes an "OG" back in the day
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LOL @ the LAkers falling apart today
Kobe: 38 minutes and 0 assists....OVER RATEDDDD
Pierce was taking yall to school today
u do know that the other teammate has to finish for him to get an assist. its not his fault all his teammates were playing like trash and running iso plays thinkin that their black mamba himself
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rondo combined for 16 assists and 10 points - that's a MINIMUM of 42 points created
kobe scored 41 points with 0 assists
rondo >
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Durant is tight.
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rondo combined for 16 assists and 10 points - that's a MINIMUM of 42 points created
kobe scored 41 points with 0 assists
rondo >
yea i agree rondo> rest of the celtics
kobe> all the hofers combined in to one super human being
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rondo combined for 16 assists and 10 points - that's a MINIMUM of 42 points created
kobe scored 41 points with 0 assists
rondo >
yea i agree rondo> rest of the celtics
kobe> all the hofers combined in to one super human being
Kobe doesn't even have HALF the rings that Bill Russell has :D
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rondo combined for 16 assists and 10 points - that's a MINIMUM of 42 points created
kobe scored 41 points with 0 assists
rondo >
yea i agree rondo> rest of the celtics
kobe> all the hofers combined in to one super human being
Kobe doesn't even have HALF the rings that Bill Russell has :D
No silly. Rings only matter when it's a LeBron/Kobe debate. Otherwise, what would a Laker fan have to defend Kobe over that monster in Miami?
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rondo combined for 16 assists and 10 points - that's a MINIMUM of 42 points created
kobe scored 41 points with 0 assists
rondo >
yea i agree rondo> rest of the celtics
kobe> all the hofers combined in to one super human being
Kobe doesn't even have HALF the rings that Bill Russell has :D
No silly. Rings only matter when it's a LeBron/Kobe debate. Otherwise, what would a Laker fan have to defend Kobe over that monster in Miami?
haha very true
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Boston wins a tough one last night in Sac-town
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LEBRON scores 23 points in the first quarter (starting out 9-9)
holy crapola! that breaks Alonzo's old record of 21
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LEBRON scores 23 points in the first quarter (starting out 9-9)
holy crapola! that breaks Alonzo's old record of 21
he's on fire right now damn
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LEBRON scores 23 points in the first quarter (starting out 9-9)
holy crapola! that breaks Alonzo's old record of 21
he's on fire right now damn
did you see D-wade's head hit te floor?
that was NOT pretty
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i think Lebron sealed his case for MVP again tonight....damn!
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LEBRON scores 23 points in the first quarter (starting out 9-9)
holy crapola! that breaks Alonzo's old record of 21
he's on fire right now damn
did you see D-wade's head hit te floor?
that was NOT pretty
indeed, but with the way lebron was going they probably didn't need him ;D
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nope I'm glad Wade is ok too
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Damn what a sick game by LeBron, he's by far the best player in the NBA... 51 points on high efficiency along with 11 rebounds, 8 assists and those sick turnaround fadeaways... I can't handle it.
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What a God.
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congrats on your sweep of my (still better) Celtics this year
your team has a solid roster for sure
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LOL, Wade had a triple-double & LeBron was like two rebounds & an assist shy of one. That's sickening.
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LOL, Wade had a triple-double & LeBron was like two rebounds & an assist shy of one. That's sickening.
both are rbetter than Kobe
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congrats on your sweep of my (still better) Celtics this year
your team has a solid roster for sure
;) thanks dawg... since Dirk is back from injury and at 100% again, the team is on a roll again... that losing streaks during the injury phase really had me worried that the team might break down... good thing that didn't happen 8)
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congrats on your sweep of my (still better) Celtics this year
your team has a solid roster for sure
;) thanks dawg... since Dirk is back from injury and at 100% again, the team is on a roll again... that losing streaks during the injury phase really had me worried that the team might break down... good thing that didn't happen 8)
with that win last night you guys tied LAL i think sadly Miami picked up a game on my boys but i'm not worried.
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congrats on your sweep of my (still better) Celtics this year
your team has a solid roster for sure
;) thanks dawg... since Dirk is back from injury and at 100% again, the team is on a roll again... that losing streaks during the injury phase really had me worried that the team might break down... good thing that didn't happen 8)
with that win last night you guys tied LAL i think sadly Miami picked up a game on my boys but i'm not worried.
Actually 1/2 game ahead of LA right now.
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Miami wins last night...so did Boston
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Miami wins last night...so did Boston
But lost tonight
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Miami wins last night...so did Boston
But lost tonight
yeah :(
but i won in the fantasy league and am still in 1st thankfully
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Miami wins last night...so did Boston
But lost tonight
yeah :(
but i won in the fantasy league and am still in 1st thankfully
Im still really hoping for a Spurs vs Celtics finals. Garnett and Duncan going at it one last time. Which bigman gets his 5th ring first...Shaq or Duncan? Rondo vs Parker. Ginobli vs Allen. Could be good.
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So they won 21 of 22. Then they all got hurt in some way & they dropped a few games not at full strength. They all came back & they've won seven straight.
It's unfair lol.
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So they won 21 of 22. Then they all got hurt in some way & they dropped a few games not at full strength. They all came back & they've won seven straight.
It's unfair lol.
and the Lakers are scrambling to try to keep up with the REAL best teams in the NBA (Boston, SAS, Miami and Dallas)
crazy...LA gonna get raped tmrw night
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the heat started out 8-7 and now are 38-14
damn scary
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
hey NIK welcome back to the basketball forum
it's been a lot less dumb without you around
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
hey NIK welcome back to the basketball forum
it's been a lot less dumb without you around
if u had half my knowledge in basketball, you wouldn't be last in our fantasy league...lmao
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
hey NIK welcome back to the basketball forum
it's been a lot less dumb without you around
if u had half my knowledge in basketball, you wouldn't be last in our fantasy league...lmao
you mean the league i stopped checking my team on 5 weeks ago?
if u had half my knowledge you'd be doing decent in my league :D
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lol@ fantasy leagues being a measure of anyones knowledge.
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lol@ fantasy leagues being a measure of anyones knowledge.
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refs are GIVING THIS AWAY to miami
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we squeeked it out thank god
Miami can't beat us :D
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3:30 left, KG dismantles James in the lane.
Shockingly it would have been his sixth foul. ::)
Good game, good comeback by Miami. Give them Haslem & it's all over. ;D
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nah they still can't beat us
we were short handed, i really have no effing idea what happened but ill take it
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
hey NIK welcome back to the basketball forum
it's been a lot less dumb without you around
ut - the Lakers lost a big game today, no NIK for us :D
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The Celtics are just a very bad matchup for the Heat , if Miami can't beat this Boston with a 7 players rotation , Pierce going 0-10 AND Bosh having a very rarely good performance against Garnett , they're never going to beat them ...
Wade needs to step up against the Cs , he has been horrible in these games ( was just came back from injury in the 1st one though)
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Dwayne Wade is on pace to pass Wilt's 100 mark tonight lol.
& he threw a FULL COURT (90+ feet) alley-oop to LeBron. :o
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http://www.youtube.com/v/zezQAe5sQ98
Greatness.
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Miami ties boston...oh shit
you're a heat fan now, huh? no need to cover it up anymore....
hey NIK welcome back to the basketball forum
it's been a lot less dumb without you around
if u had half my knowledge in basketball, you wouldn't be last in our fantasy league...lmao
you mean the league i stopped checking my team on 5 weeks ago?
if u had half my knowledge you'd be doing decent in my league :D
LOL...your retarded 8-teamer? the one i just beat you in??
my league>>>>>>>yours. and you stopped checking because you probably realized you have no shot at the playoffs :-X
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the one you are 6th place in and i am ahead of you by like 50 games in?
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LOL @ THE LAKERS LOSING TO THE CAVS
kobe = old + over rated
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I always thought LeBron would have to elevate his game further from astonishingly nearly averaging a triple-double in order to make everyone a believer that he was the far superior player.
But Kobe is proving that point by himself lol.
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I always thought LeBron would have to elevate his game further from astonishingly nearly averaging a triple-double in order to make everyone a believer that he was the far superior player.
But Kobe is proving that point by himself lol.
well first off they've been missing starters all year (Haslaam, Miller etc) but Lebron is also playing less.
but yes Kobe's crap play with a defending champ team IS proving that
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HEAT LOSE
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Is it true that Bosh went 1-18?? How is that even possible? Sick.
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Is it true that Bosh went 1-18?? How is that even possible? Sick.
Yup, here's a video clip as well:
http://video.thescore.com/watch/chris-bosh-worst-shooting-game-ever
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hahahaha
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They will win by 30 tonight.
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damn im watchin the game right now...crush miami get em
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what a great game
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They will win by 30 tonight.
lmao
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They will win by 30 tonight.
lmao
Awful game by them.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
i wonder if Miami can beat the Bulls in the playoffs
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
i wonder if Miami can beat the Bulls in the playoffs
Probably. Stern is DYING for LeBron & Kobe to play at least once in the Finals against each other.
Dick will be refing those games. 8)
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
i wonder if Miami can beat the Bulls in the playoffs
Probably. Stern is DYING for LeBron & Kobe to play at least once in the Finals against each other.
Dick will be refing those games. 8)
ya know, I have to say this : I am tired of the media getting on the Bulls nuts. this faggot Mike North on Fox Sports Radio, a true Chicago homer who spent the past winter ballsucking Lovie Smith and Jay Cutler, is NOW ball hopping onto Derrick Rose's nuts saying Rose is the best player in the NBA and better than Durant, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Rondo, Deron and anyone else you might want to mention..........
I'm hoping for a Miami-Boston eastern conference finals...that way I'm for the east in the NBA Finals. and more than likely Boston would win :D
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
i wonder if Miami can beat the Bulls in the playoffs
Probably. Stern is DYING for LeBron & Kobe to play at least once in the Finals against each other.
Dick will be refing those games. 8)
ya know, I have to say this : I am tired of the media getting on the Bulls nuts. this faggot Mike North on Fox Sports Radio, a true Chicago homer who spent the past winter ballsucking Lovie Smith and Jay Cutler, is NOW ball hopping onto Derrick Rose's nuts saying Rose is the best player in the NBA and better than Durant, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Rondo, Deron and anyone else you might want to mention..........
I'm hoping for a Miami-Boston eastern conference finals...that way I'm for the east in the NBA Finals. and more than likely Boston would win :D
If we end up with a final four of Boston vs Miami and LA vs San Antonio....we would be looking at 11 of the last 12 champions lol
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HOPEFULLY it's OKC vs SAS in the western finals :D
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HOPEFULLY it's OKC vs SAS in the western finals :D
I dont think it would happen though. More than likely we would be the #1 seed and OKC be #4, which would make us meet in the second round.
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the one you are 6th place in and i am ahead of you by like 50 games in?
yea...the one where u cheated by vetoing a fair trade in.
now, even if u do win, there will be an asterisk by that shit, straight up. :-X
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the one you are 6th place in and i am ahead of you by like 50 games in?
yea...the one where u cheated by vetoing a fair trade in.
now, even if u do win, there will be an asterisk by that shit, straight up. :-X
first off you little bitch, I've been waiting for your boyfriend 021 to accept this trade for the past 7 days
second off, you are the one who sets up all these bonehead 2-for-1 trades with people trying to take their best player for two B players, so get the fucc outta here with that bullshit.
tell your boyfriend to accept the trade and I'll put it through.
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the one you are 6th place in and i am ahead of you by like 50 games in?
yea...the one where u cheated by vetoing a fair trade in.
now, even if u do win, there will be an asterisk by that shit, straight up. :-X
first off you little bitch, I've been waiting for your boyfriend 021 to accept this trade for the past 7 days
second off, you are the one who sets up all these bonehead 2-for-1 trades with people trying to take their best player for two B players, so get the fucc outta here with that bullshit.
tell your boyfriend to accept the trade and I'll put it through.
right, so pau is a b-player, even though he's a first round pick in every league and is currently ranked number 2 overall on the entire season, while durant is ranked number 4....even pau for durant straight up isn't close to being vetoable, idiot. and your reverse psychology worked, because dumbass ali (021) is actually starting to consider that his weakass team is too good to trade...so if he doesn't accept it now, you vetoed a perfectly legit pending trade and it may not go through again, which completely fucks the integrity of your league. LOL ****** :grumpy:
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LMAOOOOOOOOO
so you are saying I saved 021 from ruining his team?
ok
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no, i'm saying u cheated by vetoing a fair trade made in the interest of improving both teams, hence your leagues integrity being in question, dumbass
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no, i'm saying u cheated by vetoing a fair trade made in the interest of improving both teams, hence your leagues integrity being in question, dumbass
LMAO
the trade that 021 now feels is unfair?
whatever man, YOU are the one who is punchline of dubcc for a reason.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
lol
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
I am. And we're fucking killing it right now; But I came up to the conclusion the NBA is gay & there is zero chance of an upset in a seven game series & realized the NBA has no distribution of power. I have high stakes bets with friends. I have the Celtics, Heat & Lakers, they have the rest of the league (to win it all). I'm rooting for the 76ers always, but since they (along with 98% of the league) have no chance of winning & you have to root for the Heat, Lakers, Celtics & I guess Spurs, I pick the Heat lol.
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There released Carlos Arroyo. Likely going to sign Mike Bibby when he's placed on waivers.
Nice upgrade. But they still need height down low.
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no, i'm saying u cheated by vetoing a fair trade made in the interest of improving both teams, hence your leagues integrity being in question, dumbass
LMAO
the trade that 021 now feels is unfair?
whatever man, YOU are the one who is punchline of dubcc for a reason.
he doesn't feel it's unfair, idiot, he just didn't wanna make it anymore after it was vetoed=league integrity in question. in fantasy, gasol is ranked higher than durant...gasol+bargnani for durant would actually be less fair to the owner giving up gasol+bargnani, but my team desperately needed a small forward, so i did it anyways...i posted about the veto on a fantasy basketball message board and they all said that i should never participate in leagues where the commish is a retarded douchebag lmao.
I am not the "punchline" of dubcc, crack, I AM dubcc...theres a reason this site died as soon as i stopped posting regularly...people like you are the punchlines of this site, or more like the herpes of this site, actually.. thats why u got people clowning on you and your balding ass, and you've brought absolutely nothing to this site during your stay here but your bandwaggon dickriding in the sports section, while the foundation of this site was built on posters like me...if i wasn't alive, you wouldn't even be posting here...if you weren't alive, i'd probably never have had to prarticipate in fantasy leagues where the commish is a cheating tool who knows absolutely nothing about basketball.. THAT is the difference.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
I am. And we're fucking killing it right now; But I came up to the conclusion the NBA is gay & there is zero chance of an upset in a seven game series & realized the NBA has no distribution of power. I have high stakes bets with friends. I have the Celtics, Heat & Lakers, they have the rest of the league (to win it all). I'm rooting for the 76ers always, but since they (along with 98% of the league) have no chance of winning & you have to root for the Heat, Lakers, Celtics & I guess Spurs, I pick the Heat lol.
that's gay....being a fan is all about rooting for your teams during the ups and downs...with fairweather fans like you, the sixers will never take the next step and become a legit playoff team, because all u douches have your heart set on boston or miami so there is nothing to build on...disgusting.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
I am. And we're fucking killing it right now; But I came up to the conclusion the NBA is gay & there is zero chance of an upset in a seven game series & realized the NBA has no distribution of power. I have high stakes bets with friends. I have the Celtics, Heat & Lakers, they have the rest of the league (to win it all). I'm rooting for the 76ers always, but since they (along with 98% of the league) have no chance of winning & you have to root for the Heat, Lakers, Celtics & I guess Spurs, I pick the Heat lol.
that's gay....being a fan is all about rooting for your teams during the ups and downs...with fairweather fans like you, the sixers will never take the next step and become a legit playoff team, because all u douches have your heart set on boston or miami so there is nothing to build on...disgusting.
So our inner thoughts are what's holding back the rest the league? LOL, nigga please.
If the Heat play the Sixers in the first round (could happen), I'd root my ass off for the Sixers. What you fail to see is there will never be "ups" anymore for any team that isn't located in NY, Chicago, LA, or Miami. The Sixers (along with the rest of the league) is just going to be some farm system for the rest of the NBA to develop all-stars or good role players just for them to leave when their contract is up.
Dwight could be going to LA, Paul could be in NY & let's just hypothetically say "they stay" (yeah right), they have zero chance of winning.
Daygo brought it up, the likely Conference Finals match-ups will be Lakers/Spurs & Heat/Celtics; that's 11 of the last 12 champions. Don't act like that's not stupid as fuck. Maybe in fifteen years when all the current stars retire & the rest of the league gets so bad (if they don't lose teams because of this teaming up) a team like the Sixers will draft a "LeBron James" or "Kobe Bryant". But if they're just going to leave to go to a big city because even Nike is paying 25 million more to play in a big city, the league is stupid.
Also, I'm a fan of LeBron James & Dwayne Wade, I would always root for the Cavs or Heat when they were playing last year. Not like die-heart, just casually root for them & now they just happen to play together.
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what do you heat fans think of gettin bibby? Lol
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what do you heat fans think of gettin bibby? Lol
Like I said above, an upgrade from Arroyo, but we need a big man.
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miami now has a legit pg, mario chalmers will never be more than a solid.
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Cham your Heat are strugglin against the better teams
I know. Not good.
I thought you were a 76ers fan. Did you hop on the bandwagon?
I am. And we're fucking killing it right now; But I came up to the conclusion the NBA is gay & there is zero chance of an upset in a seven game series & realized the NBA has no distribution of power. I have high stakes bets with friends. I have the Celtics, Heat & Lakers, they have the rest of the league (to win it all). I'm rooting for the 76ers always, but since they (along with 98% of the league) have no chance of winning & you have to root for the Heat, Lakers, Celtics & I guess Spurs, I pick the Heat lol.
that's gay....being a fan is all about rooting for your teams during the ups and downs...with fairweather fans like you, the sixers will never take the next step and become a legit playoff team, because all u douches have your heart set on boston or miami so there is nothing to build on...disgusting.
So our inner thoughts are what's holding back the rest the league? LOL, nigga please.
If the Heat play the Sixers in the first round (could happen), I'd root my ass off for the Sixers. What you fail to see is there will never be "ups" anymore for any team that isn't located in NY, Chicago, LA, or Miami. The Sixers (along with the rest of the league) is just going to be some farm system for the rest of the NBA to develop all-stars or good role players just for them to leave when their contract is up.
Dwight could be going to LA, Paul could be in NY & let's just hypothetically say "they stay" (yeah right), they have zero chance of winning.
Daygo brought it up, the likely Conference Finals match-ups will be Lakers/Spurs & Heat/Celtics; that's 11 of the last 12 champions. Don't act like that's not stupid as fuck. Maybe in fifteen years when all the current stars retire & the rest of the league gets so bad (if they don't lose teams because of this teaming up) a team like the Sixers will draft a "LeBron James" or "Kobe Bryant". But if they're just going to leave to go to a big city because even Nike is paying 25 million more to play in a big city, the league is stupid.
Also, I'm a fan of LeBron James & Dwayne Wade, I would always root for the Cavs or Heat when they were playing last year. Not like die-heart, just casually root for them & now they just happen to play together.
yea, and san antonio is such a huge market, huh? quit contradicting urself, u godamn moron....teams like okc, san antonio, dallas, orlando, etc. could still become powerhouses with the right building, despite not being in huge markets...if elton brand was still beasting, like he was expected to when he signed that huge contract, then philadelphia could have a legit shot at taking miami out...pretty pathetic to not root for your own team, regardless of the circumstances...if u were a detroit fan in 04, u probably woulda been rooting for the pacers or spurs or some shit, counting your own team out because of a lack of star power, u featherweight ass mufucka...thats what makes the laker fans special...even back when we were scratching to make the playoffs, u never saw us jumping on the next hot thing (cleveland, detroit, phoenix, san antonio <all small markets, btw)...we stuck with the LA pride, we called for mitch kupchaks head if he didnt start making moves, and it paid off......point is, ur a bandwaggon bitch, just imagine if all the sixer fans were really heat fans, just like you...what does that say about your organizations fan support? pretty sad stuff...it's fags like u who root for individuals instead of teams who ruin this sport. :grumpy:
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NIK has a new nickname "the spin doctor"
do you know how horrible the finals ratings are with SAS in it? wasn't the Spurs Pistons hte lowest rated 7 game series ever or some shit?
and even funnier "021 wanted to do the trade, but now that it got veto'd he has declined the chance to do the EXACT SAME FUCKING TRADE because he now thinks it will make his team worse"
basically I helped 021 realize his team wasn't going to be better and NIK tryin to spin it because he can't get what he wants and is in 6th place despite making 35 roster changes (compared to me making 1 change all yera lmao)
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do you know how horrible the finals ratings are with SAS in it? wasn't the Spurs Pistons hte lowest rated 7 game series ever or some shit?
Crazy cus that was one of the best finals series of all time lol. The Pistons crushed the Lakers the year before, and were amazing the year they played the Spurs in the finals.
The thing about the small market teams is that they just have to work that much harder, and be that much smarter with their drafts and FA pickups then the big market teams. Teams like LA, NY, Miami, etc will be able to draw big name talent just because of the city they are in. Even San Antonio who is the winningest franchise in sports over the last decade, still will have trouble competing for big name FA's because of their location. They lucked out getting Duncan since Robinson just happened to get injured the year before he came out and our record sucked.
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I don't hear INDY fans complaining about football lol
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I don't hear INDY fans complaining about football lol
Football and Basketball are very different though when it comes to this shit. Basketball players are complete stars. One player can completely change a franchise more than any other major sport. Their agents are going to advise them to go to places like LA and NY to get even more media exposure and endorsement deals, etc.
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I don't hear INDY fans complaining about football lol
Football and Basketball are very different though when it comes to this shit. Basketball players are complete stars. One player can completely change a franchise more than any other major sport. Their agents are going to advise them to go to places like LA and NY to get even more media exposure and endorsement deals, etc.
Plus football is a lot more popular than basketball, so owners get more money from league revenue making small market teams easier to support.
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the only reason INDy can attract any free agents is PEYTON
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem? This nigga telling me I'm not rooting for my team, when I CLEARLY state above "If the Sixers played the Heat in the first round, I'd root my heart out for them".
This nigga is talking about six years ago before this powerhouse team thing came to mind.
Then you wanna name all those teams "Dallas, OKC, etc.". You know how those teams will become powerhouses? If Chris Paul or Dwight Howard sign with them next year. ::)
Miami
New York
Chicago
LA
In two years, not a team in the NBA will be able to compete with any of these teams. Except maybe the Nets if they get Dwight.
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem?
this has been G SPOT knowledge for 10 years
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Bibby officially claimed off waivers.
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Bibby officially claimed off waivers.
as if that makes them any better
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Bibby officially claimed off waivers.
as if that makes them any better
He's their best PG. He can play most of the game & when they need stops, they bring in the defensive minded Mario Chalmers.
He's going to get plenty of open looks like everybody else on the Heat not named LeBron, Dwayne or Chris. He's a veteran, been deep in the playoffs before. He doesn't make them unbeatable, but it's certainly an improvement.
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Bibby officially claimed off waivers.
as if that makes them any better
He's their best PG. He can play most of the game & when they need stops, they bring in the defensive minded Mario Chalmers.
He's going to get plenty of open looks like everybody else on the Heat not named LeBron, Dwayne or Chris. He's a veteran, been deep in the playoffs before. He doesn't make them unbeatable, but it's certainly an improvement.
id trust Wade or Lebron with the ball before anyone else on that roster
Lebron the most if he chose to stop caring what his PPG was
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Bibby officially claimed off waivers.
as if that makes them any better
He's their best PG. He can play most of the game & when they need stops, they bring in the defensive minded Mario Chalmers.
He's going to get plenty of open looks like everybody else on the Heat not named LeBron, Dwayne or Chris. He's a veteran, been deep in the playoffs before. He doesn't make them unbeatable, but it's certainly an improvement.
id trust Wade or Lebron with the ball before anyone else on that roster
Lebron the most if he chose to stop caring what his PPG was
bibby is a good complementary PG i was thinking of adding him in my better laker pg thread but its hard to decide whether hes an upgrade over fish or blake. not sure bibby would have the balls the things fisher someitmes does playing aside kobe, i mean if fisher did miss that layup with kg, big baby, and ray im not sure he'd get jawed at by phil or kobe, but if bibby or anyone else (excluding superstar pgs) he'd be in for it.
but a major upgrade, bibby can play off the ball with a star studded team and can run the offenese when needed. i think his playoff experience will help the team too. with bibby and chalmers coming off the bench i dont think its wrong to say its solid, i mean its over arryo seriously.
if they do meet up in the ecf i wonder how the celtics would match up with dampier/big z since perkins is gone.
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i cant wait to watch Rondo run circles around Bibby :D
oh and trust me, Shaq and Jermaine will be WELLLL rested for April - June. I say those 2 are good for a combined 30-35 minutes per game....then the other 15-ish minutes we throw Big Baby and KG out there as our big men
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Jermaine is a corpse man
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Jermaine is a corpse man
its not like we need him more than 10 minutse a game
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NIK has a new nickname "the spin doctor"
do you know how horrible the finals ratings are with SAS in it? wasn't the Spurs Pistons hte lowest rated 7 game series ever or some shit?
and even funnier "021 wanted to do the trade, but now that it got veto'd he has declined the chance to do the EXACT SAME FUCKING TRADE because he now thinks it will make his team worse"
basically I helped 021 realize his team wasn't going to be better and NIK tryin to spin it because he can't get what he wants and is in 6th place despite making 35 roster changes (compared to me making 1 change all yera lmao)
again....pau gasol is ranked 2nd overall. kevin durant is ranked 4th overall. bargnani averages 22 a game and is toronto's franchise player...you are an idiot and so is ali. your league is now rigged, so if u win, it is meaningless. the end.
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem? This nigga telling me I'm not rooting for my team, when I CLEARLY state above "If the Sixers played the Heat in the first round, I'd root my heart out for them".
This nigga is talking about six years ago before this powerhouse team thing came to mind.
Then you wanna name all those teams "Dallas, OKC, etc.". You know how those teams will become powerhouses? If Chris Paul or Dwight Howard sign with them next year. ::)
Miami
New York
Chicago
LA
In two years, not a team in the NBA will be able to compete with any of these teams. Except maybe the Nets if they get Dwight.
don't get mad because you've been exposed as a bandwaggon hoe...LOL. this whole powerhouse thing is overrated. there are still small-market teams competing and building towards contention. in fact, 3 of the top 4 teams in the west don't play in a big market...once people realize that miami and new york wont win shit, the league will end this fascination with superstars teaming up in big markets and teams will build to contend the old fashion way. okc is a prime example...they just added some size and depth to compete with the lakers, and they are regarded by many as the favorites to take out LA this year. this is not 6 years ago, idiot...this is TODAY.
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem?
this has been G SPOT knowledge for 10 years
you do realize that since i've been gone, you've been the laughingstock of the gspot, right? those same clowns who would ride my dick back when this board started falling off are now making fun of your pathetic ass, and you still don't get it....what a faggot
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem?
this has been G SPOT knowledge for 10 years
you do realize that since i've been gone, you've been the laughingstock of the gspot, right? those same clowns who would ride my dick back when this board started falling off are now making fun of your pathetic ass, and you still don't get it....what a faggot
shows how little you know
Elano, K Macc, Ferhat, that Enyce guy - those are the laughing stocks since you left.
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really? because i just went over to the gspot and i saw someone made a post asking for pictures of you so that they can laugh at your balding lmao.
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really? because i just went over to the gspot and i saw someone made a post asking for pictures of you so that they can laugh at your balding lmao.
lol thats Gay DC being Gay DC
remember when he was Gay AB? way back
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what a great fucking game so far
Lebron is making some amazing shots but Orlando is holding their own too
the NBA is slowly becoming a better game to watch than MLB (granted the phantom calls are bullshit)
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holy s hit Orlando goes into Miami and somehow wins
good for them though
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holy s hit Orlando goes into Miami and somehow wins
good for them though
Helps when you choke on a 24 point lead too. Miami is having pure hell trying to close teams out.
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem? This nigga telling me I'm not rooting for my team, when I CLEARLY state above "If the Sixers played the Heat in the first round, I'd root my heart out for them".
This nigga is talking about six years ago before this powerhouse team thing came to mind.
Then you wanna name all those teams "Dallas, OKC, etc.". You know how those teams will become powerhouses? If Chris Paul or Dwight Howard sign with them next year. ::)
Miami
New York
Chicago
LA
In two years, not a team in the NBA will be able to compete with any of these teams. Except maybe the Nets if they get Dwight.
don't get mad because you've been exposed as a bandwaggon hoe...LOL. this whole powerhouse thing is overrated. there are still small-market teams competing and building towards contention. in fact, 3 of the top 4 teams in the west don't play in a big market...once people realize that miami and new york wont win shit, the league will end this fascination with superstars teaming up in big markets and teams will build to contend the old fashion way. okc is a prime example...they just added some size and depth to compete with the lakers, and they are regarded by many as the favorites to take out LA this year. this is not 6 years ago, idiot...this is TODAY.
LOL, I'm more then willing to admit being a bandwagon fan.
& YEAH OKAY LOL. Like the Lakers aren't the hands down favorite. The difference between the Lakers & Spurs against the Thunder & Dallas is staggering.
You just don't want to admit the Lakers are one of those powerhouses because you don't want to make it seem you have an unfair squad. You want to give Kobe as much credit as humanly possible & saying he's part of a pure powerhouse looks bad for him. C'mon bro, I know your games.
& more importantly, learn how to read..I didn't say "TODAY", I said down the road, son. When your or NJ has Dwight Howard, etc. This is all just starting.
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Wow, the Heat SUCK lol.
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holy s hit Orlando goes into Miami and somehow wins
good for them though
Helps when you choke on a 24 point lead too. Miami is having pure hell trying to close teams out.
hahaha yeah
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem? This nigga telling me I'm not rooting for my team, when I CLEARLY state above "If the Sixers played the Heat in the first round, I'd root my heart out for them".
This nigga is talking about six years ago before this powerhouse team thing came to mind.
Then you wanna name all those teams "Dallas, OKC, etc.". You know how those teams will become powerhouses? If Chris Paul or Dwight Howard sign with them next year. ::)
Miami
New York
Chicago
LA
In two years, not a team in the NBA will be able to compete with any of these teams. Except maybe the Nets if they get Dwight.
don't get mad because you've been exposed as a bandwaggon hoe...LOL. this whole powerhouse thing is overrated. there are still small-market teams competing and building towards contention. in fact, 3 of the top 4 teams in the west don't play in a big market...once people realize that miami and new york wont win shit, the league will end this fascination with superstars teaming up in big markets and teams will build to contend the old fashion way. okc is a prime example...they just added some size and depth to compete with the lakers, and they are regarded by many as the favorites to take out LA this year. this is not 6 years ago, idiot...this is TODAY.
LOL, I'm more then willing to admit being a bandwagon fan.
& YEAH OKAY LOL. Like the Lakers aren't the hands down favorite. The difference between the Lakers & Spurs against the Thunder & Dallas is staggering.
You just don't want to admit the Lakers are one of those powerhouses because you don't want to make it seem you have an unfair squad. You want to give Kobe as much credit as humanly possible & saying he's part of a pure powerhouse looks bad for him. C'mon bro, I know your games.
& more importantly, learn how to read..I didn't say "TODAY", I said down the road, son. When your or NJ has Dwight Howard, etc. This is all just starting.
the Lakers raped the Griz for Gasol this is very true - many teams were upset at that trade
but NIK likes to think the Lakers are PLOTTED AGAINST by evil old Stern lol
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It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. They love overlooking that Conference Finals vs. the Kings. An NBA official said that it was fixed. Hear that again, a crooked ref admitted Stern favored the superstars.
Besides, very simple logic. Jordan is gone. Stern's babyboy, Jordan is GONE. The smartest thing to do for exposure is to have someone whose comparable to Jordan so people still think they are watching arguably the best ever.
If you had a league where they said, "These guys are good, but NONE of them are close to Michael Jordan" that's AWFUL marketing.
Obviously going to side with Kobe before they go against him & make him lose.
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It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. They love overlooking that Conference Finals vs. the Kings. An NBA official said that it was fixed. Hear that again, a crooked ref admitted Stern favored the superstars.
Besides, very simple logic. Jordan is gone. Stern's babyboy, Jordan is GONE. The smartest thing to do for exposure is to have someone whose comparable to Jordan so people still think they are watching arguably the best ever.
If you had a league where they said, "These guys are good, but NONE of them are close to Michael Jordan" that's AWFUL marketing.
Obviously going to side with Kobe before they go against him & make him lose.
yeah - too bad Stern couldn't rig the 2003 finals when Detroit was faster and better at every position it seemed
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holy s hit Orlando goes into Miami and somehow wins
good for them though
not really..the only top-tier team miami has beaten so far has been the lakers, and EVERY1 beats us in the regular season.
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Can somebody inform me if NIK has a mental problem? This nigga telling me I'm not rooting for my team, when I CLEARLY state above "If the Sixers played the Heat in the first round, I'd root my heart out for them".
This nigga is talking about six years ago before this powerhouse team thing came to mind.
Then you wanna name all those teams "Dallas, OKC, etc.". You know how those teams will become powerhouses? If Chris Paul or Dwight Howard sign with them next year. ::)
Miami
New York
Chicago
LA
In two years, not a team in the NBA will be able to compete with any of these teams. Except maybe the Nets if they get Dwight.
don't get mad because you've been exposed as a bandwaggon hoe...LOL. this whole powerhouse thing is overrated. there are still small-market teams competing and building towards contention. in fact, 3 of the top 4 teams in the west don't play in a big market...once people realize that miami and new york wont win shit, the league will end this fascination with superstars teaming up in big markets and teams will build to contend the old fashion way. okc is a prime example...they just added some size and depth to compete with the lakers, and they are regarded by many as the favorites to take out LA this year. this is not 6 years ago, idiot...this is TODAY.
LOL, I'm more then willing to admit being a bandwagon fan.
& YEAH OKAY LOL. Like the Lakers aren't the hands down favorite. The difference between the Lakers & Spurs against the Thunder & Dallas is staggering.
You just don't want to admit the Lakers are one of those powerhouses because you don't want to make it seem you have an unfair squad. You want to give Kobe as much credit as humanly possible & saying he's part of a pure powerhouse looks bad for him. C'mon bro, I know your games.
& more importantly, learn how to read..I didn't say "TODAY", I said down the road, son. When your or NJ has Dwight Howard, etc. This is all just starting.
when it happens, we'll see...as of now, you sound dumb making that claim when most of the contenders are not from huge markets. yea, Lakers are the favorites, because we have the greatest player of this generation paired with the greatest coach of all time...but boston (after trading perkins), okc, miami, san antonio, dallas, chicago, and orlando are all in the same boat looking in. the powerhouse thing is a trend, just like the run-n-gun high potent phoenix offense...people thought the whole league would turn into run-n-gun teams who rely on a fast-paced offense, and phoenix became a great regular season team with that style...but they never won a ring, and that's where it ended...just like teams have a better chance winning with a half-court, grind it out offense than a run-n-gun offense, teams have a better chance of becoming champions if they build towards it than if they signed a bunch of superstars overnight. the tide has yet to shift, and i'm leaning towards to okc/san antonio side than the miami/new york side right now, so have patience, young'n.
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It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. They love overlooking that Conference Finals vs. the Kings. An NBA official said that it was fixed. Hear that again, a crooked ref admitted Stern favored the superstars.
Besides, very simple logic. Jordan is gone. Stern's babyboy, Jordan is GONE. The smartest thing to do for exposure is to have someone whose comparable to Jordan so people still think they are watching arguably the best ever.
If you had a league where they said, "These guys are good, but NONE of them are close to Michael Jordan" that's AWFUL marketing.
Obviously going to side with Kobe before they go against him & make him lose.
that's not even what he said, idiot...he said kings were favored in some games and lakers were favored in some games, to make it an interesting 7 game series...there was some horrible officiating in that series against the lakers as well, and anyone who actually watched that series can vouch that.
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this is one of the worst losses for the Heat so far. it showed what they are at the moment. 2 superstars who produce great plays and great highlights, an overpaid soft fag who folds under pressure and a bunch of random niggas. which would be enough if there was great chemistry and shit, but there's not. the 2 most imporant positions for chemistry are their worst. then they also have no idea how to win games they have no business winning, also no idea how to play dirty and dismantle an opponent when he's about to have a comeback in the 4th quarter. that team is just not gangsta enough. i'll be very surprised if they win the title this year. if they do, they are gonna win it for the next X years straight, because they are a very flawed team at the moment and can become much, much better with certain changes. as for now, the celtics are the best and the heat, bulls and magic are on a similiar level.
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What do you mean I "sound dumb", talking about the "potential" of the league in the future? Potential is your favorite word to use lol.
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Where all the heat fans after that magic loss? Finally this is proving james is overrated. Wade>>james
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MIAMI HEAT JUST GOT BEAT
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Where all the heat fans after that magic loss? Finally this is proving james is overrated. Wade>>james
Yo dumbass, you know that Wade is on that team, too? You know he lost, too? You know he didn't play better, either?
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Yo ^ "heat-ed fan"
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Where all the heat fans after that magic loss? Finally this is proving james is overrated. Wade>>james
we don't actually have any Heat fans on here besides Chamillitary
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interesting....thats a good thing so noone believed in that "oh king james is goin to miami which automatically equals to a ring. lol
Where all the heat fans after that magic loss? Finally this is proving james is overrated. Wade>>james
we don't actually have any Heat fans on here besides Chamillitary
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interesting....thats a good thing so noone believed in that "oh king james is goin to miami which automatically equals to a ring. lol
Where all the heat fans after that magic loss? Finally this is proving james is overrated. Wade>>james
we don't actually have any Heat fans on here besides Chamillitary
no
but if they can get a center in the offseason it will
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I already said that was a terrible loss. What more can I say? lol.
They are a lock for the playoffs, we'll see how they do then.
Most of you smartasses claimed they wouldn't win this year anyway. So now if they live up to your expectations you're going to laugh like they choked? Not very logical..
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Heat gettin blown out 36-12
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Heat gettin blown out 36-12
They're creeping back.
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creepin back but damn goin into the half down still
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I MISSED WHAT HAPPENED TO DAMPIER? WHAT HAPPENED?
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damn, the heat really suck worse than i thought...their only offense is in transition, straight up. and lebron continues to prove he has no heart...especially in the game vs. orlando. passing it to bosh on the last play? what a pussy ass disgrace...wade must be furious.
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What do you mean I "sound dumb", talking about the "potential" of the league in the future? Potential is your favorite word to use lol.
you sound dumb because there is currently no merit to that...i only speak of potential when players show flashes. so far, the only potential miami and new york has flashed is potential to disappoint vegas for ranking them so damn high.
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What do you mean I "sound dumb", talking about the "potential" of the league in the future? Potential is your favorite word to use lol.
you sound dumb because there is currently no merit to that...i only speak of potential when players show flashes. so far, the only potential miami and new york has flashed is potential to disappoint vegas for ranking them so damn high.
There is more then enough potential at the rate superstars are teaming up for the league to be terrible in a few years.
There is more potential in that then in Andrew Bynum lmao.
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What do you mean I "sound dumb", talking about the "potential" of the league in the future? Potential is your favorite word to use lol.
you sound dumb because there is currently no merit to that...i only speak of potential when players show flashes. so far, the only potential miami and new york has flashed is potential to disappoint vegas for ranking them so damn high.
There is more then enough potential at the rate superstars are teaming up for the league to be terrible in a few years.
There is more potential in that then in Andrew Bynum lmao.
bynum is no longer potential, he is potential realized...17 boards and 6 blocks tonight, ya dumb bitch
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What do you mean I "sound dumb", talking about the "potential" of the league in the future? Potential is your favorite word to use lol.
you sound dumb because there is currently no merit to that...i only speak of potential when players show flashes. so far, the only potential miami and new york has flashed is potential to disappoint vegas for ranking them so damn high.
There is more then enough potential at the rate superstars are teaming up for the league to be terrible in a few years.
There is more potential in that then in Andrew Bynum lmao.
bynum is no longer potential, he is potential realized...17 boards and 6 blocks tonight, ya dumb bitch
Yeah, it's realized he'll be injured within the next 12 months.
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I MISSED WHAT HAPPENED TO DAMPIER? WHAT HAPPENED?
He's fuckin dirty. Guess he was frustrated at getting completely embarrassed on National TV, so when Parker went up for a layup Dampier just shoved him in the back pushing him outta bounds.
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damn and then took a what a 30 point loss? lol
I MISSED WHAT HAPPENED TO DAMPIER? WHAT HAPPENED?
He's fuckin dirty. Guess he was frustrated at getting completely embarrassed on National TV, so when Parker went up for a layup Dampier just shoved him in the back pushing him outta bounds.
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damn and then took a what a 30 point loss? lol
I MISSED WHAT HAPPENED TO DAMPIER? WHAT HAPPENED?
He's fuckin dirty. Guess he was frustrated at getting completely embarrassed on National TV, so when Parker went up for a layup Dampier just shoved him in the back pushing him outta bounds.
His plan worked to perfection!
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damn and then took a what a 30 point loss? lol
I MISSED WHAT HAPPENED TO DAMPIER? WHAT HAPPENED?
He's fuckin dirty. Guess he was frustrated at getting completely embarrassed on National TV, so when Parker went up for a layup Dampier just shoved him in the back pushing him outta bounds.
Your quoting style seems so familiar...but your English is better. lol
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im new to this forum. for some reason my computer wont let me quote the other way. so i just go with whats easier
I will tell you though there are some weird people on here or as someone said "creepy"
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im new to this forum. for some reason my computer wont let me quote the other way. so i just go with whats easier
I will tell you though there are some weird people on here or as someone said "creepy"
Hell muthafuckin yeah. Watch out for that Sikotic guy, he likes dick.
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im just starting to see whats goin down but its comedy regardless i guess
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Arroyo got signed by Celtics ;D
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Arroyo got signed by Celtics ;D
Thats the deal that will push them over the top lol
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Heat are playin great defense and the big three are all playin well c even then it's gonna be fought for them to pull out a win today.
But really with their high end talent they can beat anyone. As someone else said it's only a matter of time before they get the right pieces.
The funniest thing about all this is Bron haters using the Heats struggles to diss him, but nobody seems to be calling out D Wade.
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Heat are playin great defense and the big three are all playin well c even then it's gonna be fought for them to pull out a win today.
But really with their high end talent they can beat anyone. As someone else said it's only a matter of time before they get the right pieces.
The funniest thing about all this is Bron haters using the Heats struggles to diss him, but nobody seems to be calling out D Wade.
Man...their defense against us on Friday looked about as bad as anything Ive seen all year. Our offense was clicking, but their defense was equally as bad. Their rotations were slow, and terrible. I havent seen us get that many open 3's all year. And I think a cardboard cut out of Hakeem would have defended the paint better than Bosh did lol
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4th loss in a row. Los Bulls swept the season series over El Heat.
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4th loss in a row. Los Bulls swept the season series over El Heat.
Since when were you a Latino?
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4th loss in a row. Los Bulls swept the season series over El Heat.
Since when were you a Latino?
Lol never was, although I did take a course about business in Latin America.....plus they had the jerseys on today :P
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LOL...the Heat suck...get over it
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You can call someone a bandwagon fan, but how about some bandwagon haters?
This thread was quiet as fuck besides me & Hack when they won 22 out of 23; then they all got hurt, lost a few games, came back together & won another seven straight.
At one point when the three were playing in the same game they were 32-1 & like I said me & Hack were the only two posting in this thread. ::)
Now they drop a few & you're all jumpin' on that they suck, c'mon kids.
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
LeBron left the Cavs because he didn't feel he had any real help (which isn't true), so he goes to Miami where there is already a Finals MVP and another All-Star. LeBron can't make any excuses because he got exactly what he wanted. However, what he failed to realize is that without teamwork and chemistry, all the talent in the world wonn't win championships
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
LeBron left the Cavs because he didn't feel he had any real help (which isn't true), so he goes to Miami where there is already a Finals MVP and another All-Star. LeBron can't make any excuses because he got exactly what he wanted. However, what he failed to realize is that without teamwork and chemistry, all the talent in the world wonn't win championships
It's impossible for it to work both ways lol. Either he has what he needs or he doesn't. If you're saying he doesn't, then you can't say that he has enough.
I personally don't think he needs anything; so I'm not making excuses for him.
But I get it, you just don't want to hear it anymore. But it is what it is. It's one or the other; can't be both.
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
LeBron left the Cavs because he didn't feel he had any real help (which isn't true), so he goes to Miami where there is already a Finals MVP and another All-Star. LeBron can't make any excuses because he got exactly what he wanted. However, what he failed to realize is that without teamwork and chemistry, all the talent in the world won't win championships
It's impossible for it to work both ways lol. Either he has what he needs or he doesn't. If you're saying he doesn't, then you can't say that he has enough.
I personally don't think he needs anything; so I'm not making excuses for him.
But I get it, you just don't want to hear it anymore. But it is what it is. It's one or the other; can't be both.
He does have enough. Talent isn't the issue. Like I said, teamwork and chemistry is what's needed (and not chocking at the end of games).
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
LeBron left the Cavs because he didn't feel he had any real help (which isn't true), so he goes to Miami where there is already a Finals MVP and another All-Star. LeBron can't make any excuses because he got exactly what he wanted. However, what he failed to realize is that without teamwork and chemistry, all the talent in the world wonn't win championships
It's impossible for it to work both ways lol. Either he has what he needs or he doesn't. If you're saying he doesn't, then you can't say that he has enough.
I personally don't think he needs anything; so I'm not making excuses for him.
But I get it, you just don't want to hear it anymore. But it is what it is. It's one or the other; can't be both.
you proclaimed the heat champions as soon as they acquired lebron and bosh...i said they'd fail since day 1. they suck...the end.
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^How does one suck & have one of the best records in the league?
http://www.youtube.com/v/WLsHP94bvXs
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^How does one suck & have one of the best records in the league?
http://www.youtube.com/v/WLsHP94bvXs
ask the last team LeBron led to failure
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Miami has now lost four in a row and five of its past six games, and the Heat continue to struggle against quality opponents. Coach Erik Spoelstra said players were crying in the locker room after the game, and the panic alarm has become a screaming siren.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14780783/heats-dream-season-could-turn-ugly-if-they-dont-wake-up
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But if all you Dubcc NBA analyst experts are claiming you never thought the Heat were going to win this year, then why wait until now to start bragging that's what you thought? Because they dropped 4? Like I said, when they won like 30 in a row nobody had anything to say. They drop four & suddenly "Oh, I knew two months ago they weren't shit" lol.
Once I was certain they made the playoffs, all that concerned me was the playoffs & we can all do all the speculating we want but until the playoffs start & finish, it all means nothing.
I mean, besides the Spurs, they haven't really been getting blown out. Like today against Chicago, they lost by a point. I could understand if they lost to every quality by 15 or more, but that's not the case. Whose to say a team in the playoffs can go out & beat this team playing them back to back nights & shit? And run with them?
I'm just saying, when the Heat beat the Lakers on Christmas, that was just "a regular season game, doesn't mean shit", but when the Heat lose suddenly, they lost the NBA Finals in a regular season game.
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they keep givin up leads , their record in closed games is terrible ( they are 1 out of 16 from the field on potential game tying/winning shots ... wtf )
it just showed they have no idea what to do and cant execute down the stretch .... their offense is way too much predictable , its Lebron or Wade iso all day long , not enough against the good teams
they need to change some things
1) get another coach , Spoelstra is clueless in almost every aspect of the game
2) trade that pussy named Bosh
3) Lebron should let Wade take over at the end of the games
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^But I feel that's not necessarily a bad problem to have. It seems like something that can be worked out. I mean 1-16 sucks, but at the same time, what are four of them two attempts they got in one game? That means 12 of their 20 loses they could have "potentially" won if a shot fell?
This stretch of losing could be good for them moving forward, nearing the playoffs.
I just think it's much better for them to be losing close & figuring out how to close the games opposed to losing to quality teams miserably.
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if the heat only just win, it's because lebron took over. look at the games where lebron has played terrible and theyve lost. look at the games where he plays good and they normally win
i think the only real change that needs to be made is finding someone to replace bosh who can rebound & play defense. once miami come up on a team who has a big presence in the paint they are pretty much done. right now its lebron and wade carrying that team, they need some help
the question is, who would actually take bosh now that people have seen him play on the heat?
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Lebron has played to his standards since the All Star Break but Miami record is 2-5 ... he has been as unclutched as possible lately ... why the keep going to him whereas he keeps missing ...
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But if all you Dubcc NBA analyst experts are claiming you never thought the Heat were going to win this year, then why wait until now to start bragging that's what you thought? Because they dropped 4? Like I said, when they won like 30 in a row nobody had anything to say. They drop four & suddenly "Oh, I knew two months ago they weren't shit" lol.
Once I was certain they made the playoffs, all that concerned me was the playoffs & we can all do all the speculating we want but until the playoffs start & finish, it all means nothing.
I mean, besides the Spurs, they haven't really been getting blown out. Like today against Chicago, they lost by a point. I could understand if they lost to every quality by 15 or more, but that's not the case. Whose to say a team in the playoffs can go out & beat this team playing them back to back nights & shit? And run with them?
I'm just saying, when the Heat beat the Lakers on Christmas, that was just "a regular season game, doesn't mean shit", but when the Heat lose suddenly, they lost the NBA Finals in a regular season game.
the heat are not the lakers...comparing a championship team to a bunch of arrogant losers is pretty pathetic.
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Lol elior is such a troll. He vanishes when the heat win and shows up when they lose. Cham why waste your time with such an obvious troll
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Lol elior is such a troll. He vanishes when the heat win and shows up when they lose. Cham why waste your time with such an obvious troll
Because he claims to know what he's talking about. But I guess you're right. He's a selective reader, responds to what he feels like he can answer & when I say something he has no answer to he runs to "LOL, you're an idiot".
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i dunno what the fuck u dumbasses are talking about, i posted in this thread while the heat were smashin VVV
LOL@all the excited ass mufuckaz up in this thread...this was like a Game 7 Finals for the Heat. Lakers lose these Christmas games year after year. Who won the big Christmas game last year? Yup. We almost play these games like it's pre-season. This is nothing new, Lakers "struggle" (relax) in stretches every single season. Ya'll happy Heat fans puttin too much stake in this, just like the Cav fans of last year. :-*
lmao@gaydc coming into this thread to discuss me.
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Lmao @ you still needing to post on this forum
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Lmao @ you still needing to post on this forum
i don't need to do shit, fagboy...take your dickriding to gspot, this thread is about the heat.
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Lmao @ you still needing to post on this forum
i don't need to do shit, fagboy...take your dickriding to gspot, this thread is about the heat.
Dude, its obvious your arrogance masks a real inferiority complex.
As for the Heat...well, I like Lebron and all, but this isn't all that surprising. Still, the high end talent is there, so who knows what these guys will do come playoff time? I could see a first round lost OR a finals appearance. But in reality, they aren't built to win a championship...yet
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If you don't need to then why are you here? You were laughed out of this place and yet you come crawling back like a crackhead looking to suck dick for one more hit.
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lol @ him posting one post the day after Christmas to defend the Lakers & then bowing out until now.
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Lebron: What do we do??!??!
Wade: Nothing, damn we suck
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Lmao @ you still needing to post on this forum
i don't need to do shit, fagboy...take your dickriding to gspot, this thread is about the heat.
Dude, its obvious your arrogance masks a real inferiority complex.
As for the Heat...well, I like Lebron and all, but this isn't all that surprising. Still, the high end talent is there, so who knows what these guys will do come playoff time? I could see a first round lost OR a finals appearance. But in reality, they aren't built to win a championship...yet
right...a fag comes in here to talk about me rather than the heat and i feel inferior because i'm calling out his fagness. good job, psychologist, how much do i owe you? lmao
lebron is the most overrated figure in sports over the past decade...you people need to get over it and move on. i heard heat fans calling him out for having no heart on the radio the other day. embarassing.
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If you don't need to then why are you here? You were laughed out of this place and yet you come crawling back like a crackhead looking to suck dick for one more hit.
so u post here because you NEED to? because it's the only place you can ride nuts without gettin slapped the fuck up?? LOL. quit followin me around, fruitcake.
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lol @ him posting one post the day after Christmas to defend the Lakers & then bowing out until now.
i also posted in here on february 11th, dipshit. anything else?
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lol @ him posting one post the day after Christmas to defend the Lakers & then bowing out until now.
i also posted in here on february 11th, dipshit. anything else?
So twice in four months..? lol.
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/i2mt13.jpg)
Lebron: What do we do??!??!
Wade: Nothing, damn we suck
Like Ive said before, Im not a Lebron fan...or a Lebron hater. But they did this to themselves. Them coming together in Miami would have been the biggest story of the year anyways, but if they would have been humble about it...I dont think SO many people would be hoping to see them fail.
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
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^ lol, like i predicted last year, i knew 2 major ball handlers DO NOT gel well together, there was a good example of one before but i forget the team and the players,
thats why I DO NOT want a major ball handling PG playing with kobe. its just not needed and causes confusion sometimes.
one needs to take the backseat but its relevant thats not happening anytime soon, lebron would of had better chances recruiting bosh to cleveland or bosh just joining dwade. cleveland already had respectable team that can take them deep into the playoffs and the heat would of had money left over to make their team "respectable"
i knew 2 major ball handlers wouldnt be a PERFECT fit, im not saying they wont go pass through this, but i think there were better scenarios. im not a big fan of having 2 major ballhandlers it always limits one the players full potentinal if not, than it limits both.
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
Wow. That's not an ignorant thing to say. ::)
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im not too big of a fan of the knicks either, two face up forwards? lol whats gonna happen when the J's dont go in? dont tell me they'll use their "youth" and "athleticism" to win games.
i dont understand why doesnt a "DOMINANT" (not no dwight howard weenie status, im talking bout taking over games like Shaq, KG status) big man hook up with a dominant perimeter player.
like a kobe n shaq, stockton n malone, tandem.
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
Wow. That's not an ignorant thing to say. ::)
No shit. If you say that Germans like to kill Jews, Im sure 7even will tell you how ignorant that is.
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lol @ him posting one post the day after Christmas to defend the Lakers & then bowing out until now.
i also posted in here on february 11th, dipshit. anything else?
So twice in four months..? lol.
doesnt matter how many times, point is, my stance remained the same...i was not as active on these forums the last couple of months, as all my fans know, but i still made it a point to state my opinions when i did come around. whats your point, though? the heat suck, regardless. you proclaimed them champs as soon as they got lebron, like the idiot that you are...dont try taking your dumbness out on others.
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They will be champs. It's a new decade. I personally guarantee they will win more titles in the next ten years.
They don't suck, you're just angry he's by far the best player in the league. :laugh:
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
Wow. That's not an ignorant thing to say. ::)
of course it is ignorant, yet not really wrong. I understand if you take offense, though. you're the only black person who posts about basketball in here... and you're far from the cliché african american, so I thought I could state this without offending too many innocent people.
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I almost feel enticed to agree with 7. Not going to lie, although highly racist, it's pretty true lol.
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They will be champs. It's a new decade. I personally guarantee they will win more titles in the next ten years.
They don't suck, you're just angry he's by far the best player in the league. :laugh:
the best player in the nba doesn't go 1-16 to close out close games.
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
Wow. That's not an ignorant thing to say. ::)
of course it is ignorant, yet not really wrong. I understand if you take offense, though. you're the only black person who posts about basketball in here... and you're far from the cliché african american, so I thought I could state this without offending too many innocent people.
I'm not really offended by it. I just think that was a gross generalization. I really don't want to get into a racial debate, so I'll leave it with this: A "typical" black person in America can not be represented by an athlete, especially a superstar.
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I post here for the Lols from people like making posts about not wanting to be alive cuz u got busted with weed. Youve been laughed out of this place. Nobody likes you or respects you, theirs pics of your slutty looking mom on here. Everyone looks at you as a square herb who would suck kobes dick. And yet you still come here, because you need to. You have no life, this place is the best thing you ever had in your life , which is just plain sad
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let's not forget that african americans easily get excited and overly confident. how can you expect 2 nba superstars and 1 nba all-star who are all black and consider themselves friends and join each other in a fun city to not get cocky and giggly?
Wow. That's not an ignorant thing to say. ::)
of course it is ignorant, yet not really wrong. I understand if you take offense, though. you're the only black person who posts about basketball in here... and you're far from the cliché african american, so I thought I could state this without offending too many innocent people.
I'm not really offended by it. I just think that was a gross generalization. I really don't want to get into a racial debate, so I'll leave it with this: A "typical" black person in America can not be represented by an athlete, especially a superstar.
Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken, isn't 7even the white guy who says "Nigga" all the time, and claims a black guy gave him a pass to say it?!!
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Looking back on this shit now, It would have worked out better for the 3 heatles of Bron went to NY with Amare and Bosh and Wade signed in Chicago....
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They will be champs. It's a new decade. I personally guarantee they will win more titles in the next ten years.
They don't suck, you're just angry he's by far the best player in the league. :laugh:
The heat just lost 5 in a row... No way Lebron is the best in the NBA when his team can't win with Wade and Bosh
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They will be champs. It's a new decade. I personally guarantee they will win more titles in the next ten years.
They don't suck, you're just angry he's by far the best player in the league. :laugh:
The heat just lost 5 in a row... No way Lebron is the best in the NBA when his team can't win with Wade and Bosh
lol, NIK has you doing his dirty work?
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Looking back on this shit now, It would have worked out better for the 3 heatles of Bron went to NY with Amare and Bosh and Wade signed in Chicago....
Hindsight is always 20/20.
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people are talking like its already over. nobody really thought miami would win right away, except the idiot bandwagoners. in all seriousness, they still have time to improve. this isnt a "one season and then its over" kinda deal.
that said, i felt like some of yall would've had a field day with these pics lol. copied and pasted from real gm
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I post here for the Lols from people like making posts about not wanting to be alive cuz u got busted with weed. Youve been laughed out of this place. Nobody likes you or respects you, theirs pics of your slutty looking mom on here. Everyone looks at you as a square herb who would suck kobes dick. And yet you still come here, because you need to. You have no life, this place is the best thing you ever had in your life , which is just plain sad
why cant u just keep the dickriding in tha gspot, though?
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LMAO @ HALU
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Wade and Bron had a great game against the Blazers... it's just that the rest of the team produced absolutely nothing, including Bosh.
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Lebron and Wade have been very good most of the year...sure, they have had a few too many turnovers, and no, they haven't been clutch at the end of games.
But if you've been watching the Heat games, you know those two are playing well and working extremely hard. Bosh and Miller need to step up, now. Case closed.
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LOL...the Heat suck...get over it
isn't their record only 2.5 games worse than the almighty Lakers?
lmao
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^i dunno what ur talkin about, i always said they suck and that they couldn't compete with the top teams.
So right when the Heat came together you said "LeBron can't make excuses anymore" & now you're saying they always sucked? Pretty contradicting... :stupid:
that's because he's an assclown
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Apparently Chris Bosh just told the Florida media that he's uncomfortable playing on this team, saying he doesn't want to play with body contact. I swear, this guy is TRYING to alienate himself from his own team's fan base...
http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/03/09/11/Bosh-talks-big-comes-up-small/landing_reiter.html?blockID=436274&feedID=7926
MIAMI — Well, this was something different.
There was Chris Bosh, on the heels of another weak showing in another Heat loss, sounding as if he were admitting something that's been painfully obvious too often this season.
He doesn't fit in here.
End of story.
"I have to get back in my comfort zone," he started out after Miami's 105-96 loss to the Blazers, its fifth straight defeat. "I haven't been in my comfort zone. A lot of things are new for me, and I just have to be more aggressive in demanding it in my comfort zone. I will take the fall for that."
That and the fact Bosh has played so poorly in so many games that Scottie Pippen called the Heat two-and-a-half men.
As in Bosh is half a man.
That and his miserly four rebounds and abysmal three-of-11 shooting highlighted another night in which Big Game Bosh is a mocking moniker.
That and the fact he's not the player he was supposed to be. Not on this team. Not in any way resembling a guy who's supposed to be part of the Big Three.
He's a square peg in a round hole. And he sure sounds like he knows it.
"I am uncomfortable now," Bosh said. "It is nothing but a conversation to have to correct the discomfort and I am here for the benefit of the team. I just feel that I have to be my normal self, and I really am not there right now. It has been a lot of flashes."
This is Bosh dancing around the fact that for much of this season he's been an awkward, out-of-place, underachieving so-called star.
Before the Heat's December renaissance, Bosh let out rapid-fire candor that shot down any notion he was in the right city.
"I never really like to bump against people that are a lot, lot bigger than me. I'm not the biggest guy in the world," he said.
"I didn't ask for us to be called the Big Three," he said.
"I think I'm the easiest one to attack. I've heard all kinds of jokes," he said.
Doesn't want to bump against people that are a lot bigger than him? Doesn't belong in the Big Three? He's the easiest to attack?
The only thing more disturbing for Heat fans than the fact he'd say these things is the fact he knew how right he was way back then.
In fact, the signs that Bosh was the wrong part in an over-hyped and mismatched team were strong enough that in early November my FOXSports.com colleague Jason Whitlock wrote Miami might be better off trading him.
People guffawed. People rolled their eyes. People thought that was crazy talk.
Not so crazy anymore.
"I think it is evident I have to get it where I am effective," Bosh said, referencing that he needs to take fewer jump shots and get the ball more often in the paint.
A statement that absolutely contradicts his earlier statement about not wanting to bump against players who are bigger than him, not to mention his routine struggles with rebounding in key games.
Because either you want the ball in the paint or you don't.
Either you rebound or you don't.
Either you play like a big man or you don't.
And Bosh usually doesn't.
All of this seems even clearer — and pushed into the light by Bosh's comments — in the context of what's happening with the Heat.
Bosh hasn't fixed himself since those dark November days. But Dwyane Wade and LeBron James have forged a new level of greatness, seen in their efforts Tuesday to carry their team on their shoulders, that is simply not enough.
"We're not going to come in here and point out our teammates," Wade said. "We lose together. We want more productivity off the bench … whoever is playing has to do more for us to win the ball game."
Bosh was playing — he played 40 minutes Tuesday night. Third only to LeBron's 45 and Wade's 42.
Because there's no one else to whom Spoelstra can turn.
Which brings us back to Bosh, who was talking about how he needs to be a big man — the very thing he's shied away from all year.
"I can shoot the ball but I am a big man, so I have to get it where the big guys get it and I feel I can start helping this team out more."
This was Bosh creeping perilously close to the ledge of absolute candor. This was a so-called member of the Big Three peering over that high ledge of honesty and seeing what Whitlock saw months ago.
Bosh doesn't fit.
All of this feels so much clearer now after the latest loss to a good but not great Blazers team — despite James and Wade being simply masterful.
LeBron went off for 31 points, 11 rebounds and eight assists. Wade matched him in effort, grit and greatness with 38 points, six rebounds and five assists.
Spectacular.
Yet despite those performances from the Heat's true luminaries, Miami just dropped its fifth in a row to playoff-bound teams. It just sunk deeper into doubt and the sense that chaos has replaced quality.
And Bosh wanted to talk about how things for him in Miami aren't how they used to be in Toronto.
"I am not a selfish player; if they come and double team, I will make the smart play," he said. "I have done that for a long time in Toronto. That should not change. I felt like we had an advantage on mismatches."
And Wade seemed to need all his self-control and graciousness not to do a double-take and storm out of the press conference to sit Bosh down for a long talk when he heard the want-to-be big man's needs.
"We obviously want to help Chris be more aggressive," Wade said diplomatically. "And understand it's our duty and our job to make sure this time of the year to help Chris, who hasn't been in too many of these situations, that he can be very productive for us."
Hasn't been in too many of these situations.
Translation: You're not used to this. You may not be up to this. We're trying to help, but dude, come on, get it done.
And then there was Bosh. Saying he shouldn't be opening games taking three straight jump shots even though, well, that's what he's done all year.
Which is more about him than any conspiracy or plan to not utilize him properly.
And Bosh saying he didn't get the rebounds he should have because he "mistimed a couple of them" and "if I don't start out around the basket it kind of drifts on throughout the game and it gets tougher and tougher to get rebounds."
And Bosh saying he was rolling a bit too much to the basket Tuesday.
Excuses. Abdication of his own role in these things. And a quip, when asked whether he was in a position Tuesday where he could be effective, that went like this: "Was I effective today? So it's kind of sensitive to talk about."
So is this: Sixty-three games into the regular season and Chris Bosh sounds a lot like the guy from November who knew he didn't fit in.
On a night when the Big Two gave it all they had, it's fair to wonder whether No. 3 belongs in that title — or with this team at all.
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Apparently Chris Bosh just told the Florida media that he's uncomfortable playing on this team, saying he doesn't want to play with body contact. I swear, this guy is TRYING to alienate himself from his own team's fan base...
http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/03/09/11/Bosh-talks-big-comes-up-small/landing_reiter.html?blockID=436274&feedID=7926
MIAMI — Well, this was something different.
There was Chris Bosh, on the heels of another weak showing in another Heat loss, sounding as if he were admitting something that's been painfully obvious too often this season.
He doesn't fit in here.
End of story.
"I have to get back in my comfort zone," he started out after Miami's 105-96 loss to the Blazers, its fifth straight defeat. "I haven't been in my comfort zone. A lot of things are new for me, and I just have to be more aggressive in demanding it in my comfort zone. I will take the fall for that."
That and the fact Bosh has played so poorly in so many games that Scottie Pippen called the Heat two-and-a-half men.
As in Bosh is half a man.
That and his miserly four rebounds and abysmal three-of-11 shooting highlighted another night in which Big Game Bosh is a mocking moniker.
That and the fact he's not the player he was supposed to be. Not on this team. Not in any way resembling a guy who's supposed to be part of the Big Three.
He's a square peg in a round hole. And he sure sounds like he knows it.
"I am uncomfortable now," Bosh said. "It is nothing but a conversation to have to correct the discomfort and I am here for the benefit of the team. I just feel that I have to be my normal self, and I really am not there right now. It has been a lot of flashes."
This is Bosh dancing around the fact that for much of this season he's been an awkward, out-of-place, underachieving so-called star.
Before the Heat's December renaissance, Bosh let out rapid-fire candor that shot down any notion he was in the right city.
"I never really like to bump against people that are a lot, lot bigger than me. I'm not the biggest guy in the world," he said.
"I didn't ask for us to be called the Big Three," he said.
"I think I'm the easiest one to attack. I've heard all kinds of jokes," he said.
Doesn't want to bump against people that are a lot bigger than him? Doesn't belong in the Big Three? He's the easiest to attack?
The only thing more disturbing for Heat fans than the fact he'd say these things is the fact he knew how right he was way back then.
In fact, the signs that Bosh was the wrong part in an over-hyped and mismatched team were strong enough that in early November my FOXSports.com colleague Jason Whitlock wrote Miami might be better off trading him.
People guffawed. People rolled their eyes. People thought that was crazy talk.
Not so crazy anymore.
"I think it is evident I have to get it where I am effective," Bosh said, referencing that he needs to take fewer jump shots and get the ball more often in the paint.
A statement that absolutely contradicts his earlier statement about not wanting to bump against players who are bigger than him, not to mention his routine struggles with rebounding in key games.
Because either you want the ball in the paint or you don't.
Either you rebound or you don't.
Either you play like a big man or you don't.
And Bosh usually doesn't.
All of this seems even clearer — and pushed into the light by Bosh's comments — in the context of what's happening with the Heat.
Bosh hasn't fixed himself since those dark November days. But Dwyane Wade and LeBron James have forged a new level of greatness, seen in their efforts Tuesday to carry their team on their shoulders, that is simply not enough.
"We're not going to come in here and point out our teammates," Wade said. "We lose together. We want more productivity off the bench … whoever is playing has to do more for us to win the ball game."
Bosh was playing — he played 40 minutes Tuesday night. Third only to LeBron's 45 and Wade's 42.
Because there's no one else to whom Spoelstra can turn.
Which brings us back to Bosh, who was talking about how he needs to be a big man — the very thing he's shied away from all year.
"I can shoot the ball but I am a big man, so I have to get it where the big guys get it and I feel I can start helping this team out more."
This was Bosh creeping perilously close to the ledge of absolute candor. This was a so-called member of the Big Three peering over that high ledge of honesty and seeing what Whitlock saw months ago.
Bosh doesn't fit.
All of this feels so much clearer now after the latest loss to a good but not great Blazers team — despite James and Wade being simply masterful.
LeBron went off for 31 points, 11 rebounds and eight assists. Wade matched him in effort, grit and greatness with 38 points, six rebounds and five assists.
Spectacular.
Yet despite those performances from the Heat's true luminaries, Miami just dropped its fifth in a row to playoff-bound teams. It just sunk deeper into doubt and the sense that chaos has replaced quality.
And Bosh wanted to talk about how things for him in Miami aren't how they used to be in Toronto.
"I am not a selfish player; if they come and double team, I will make the smart play," he said. "I have done that for a long time in Toronto. That should not change. I felt like we had an advantage on mismatches."
And Wade seemed to need all his self-control and graciousness not to do a double-take and storm out of the press conference to sit Bosh down for a long talk when he heard the want-to-be big man's needs.
"We obviously want to help Chris be more aggressive," Wade said diplomatically. "And understand it's our duty and our job to make sure this time of the year to help Chris, who hasn't been in too many of these situations, that he can be very productive for us."
Hasn't been in too many of these situations.
Translation: You're not used to this. You may not be up to this. We're trying to help, but dude, come on, get it done.
And then there was Bosh. Saying he shouldn't be opening games taking three straight jump shots even though, well, that's what he's done all year.
Which is more about him than any conspiracy or plan to not utilize him properly.
And Bosh saying he didn't get the rebounds he should have because he "mistimed a couple of them" and "if I don't start out around the basket it kind of drifts on throughout the game and it gets tougher and tougher to get rebounds."
And Bosh saying he was rolling a bit too much to the basket Tuesday.
Excuses. Abdication of his own role in these things. And a quip, when asked whether he was in a position Tuesday where he could be effective, that went like this: "Was I effective today? So it's kind of sensitive to talk about."
So is this: Sixty-three games into the regular season and Chris Bosh sounds a lot like the guy from November who knew he didn't fit in.
On a night when the Big Two gave it all they had, it's fair to wonder whether No. 3 belongs in that title — or with this team at all.
if Chris Bosh is on that team next year I'll be shocked
I can see him being traded for 50 cents to the dollar (i.e. 2-3 role players)
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if Chris Bosh is on that team next year I'll be shocked
I can see him being traded for 50 cents to the dollar (i.e. 2-3 role players)
They can get a good roll player with the MLE. A shit load of players would want to play with Wade and LeBron. They should trade Bosh for a true center who can play 35 minutes a game. Too bad there aren't many of those left in the league.
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damn, people are crazy with these pics lol..
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http://www.youtube.com/v/SbyAK8N6pRU
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I don't see why any team would trade for Bosh. His contract is ridiculous, he will not transform a irrelevant team into a relevant one, and marketing-wise it doesn't make sense either because ever since he joined the Heat he is neither liked nor considered a superstar. I guess the Heat are stuck with him, unless they buy him out (crazy) or trade him for terrible contracts, picks and 1 or 2 role players. A fantastic trade would be Bosh for Okafor and Ariza.. that would also make for the mother of all NBA conspiracy theories, considering the Hornets are now run by the league.
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losing streak is over; against the Lakers too.
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Beautiful bench play.
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Sir Charles said it well
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2011/03/10/20110310_charles_heat_rant.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
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the heat still suck.
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
You're on DBA? What's your user name?
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
You're on DBA? What's your user name?
runnin with scissors
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Looking back on this shit now, It would have worked out better for the 3 heatles of Bron went to NY with Amare and Bosh and Wade signed in Chicago....
Lebron, Bosh and Amare?
who would play center? Amare gets 8 boards a game and Bosh is Manute Bol with longer hair (per Barkley)
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Looking back on this shit now, It would have worked out better for the 3 heatles of Bron went to NY with Amare and Bosh and Wade signed in Chicago....
Lebron, Bosh and Amare?
who would play center? Amare gets 8 boards a game and Bosh is Manute Bol with longer hair (per Barkley)
Yeah right!! Manute Bol killed a lion once with a spear. He was a G!
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Looking back on this shit now, It would have worked out better for the 3 heatles of Bron went to NY with Amare and Bosh and Wade signed in Chicago....
Lebron, Bosh and Amare?
who would play center? Amare gets 8 boards a game and Bosh is Manute Bol with longer hair (per Barkley)
Yeah right!! Manute Bol killed a lion once with a spear. He was a G!
i'm just quoting Barkley lol
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I'm not a fan of the way the Heat play on offense, but one thing I will say:
The great Bulls teams did not have a great pg or centre, but they did have two gr8 perimeter players with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.
Sound familiar?? ;)
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I'm not a fan of the way the Heat play on offense, but one thing I will say:
The great Bulls teams did not have a great pg or centre, but they did have two gr8 perimeter players with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.
Sound familiar?? ;)
The Bulls also had great depth. That definitely doesn't sound familiar here.
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what is a "centre"?
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Miami wins by 33 over the Grizzles tonight
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where are the miami haters at? lol
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where are the miami haters at? lol
Exactly what it was like when they won every game they played in two months ago.
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where are the miami haters at? lol
Exactly what it was like when they won every game they played in two months ago.
im no Heat fan but I still respect that teams talent
with Lebron and Wade, you got the best SG and SF in the NBA since Kobe is now aging
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^Honestly with Kobe aging, it's the two best players in the NBA.
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^Honestly with Kobe aging, it's the two best players in the NBA.
i say lebron > durant > wade
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
i dont even have a username on that site, jackass...and regardless, the heat suck, nothing changed from when they couldn't beat the legit contenders. even the clippers can beat memphis...and any team can beat the lakers if they play it like it's a game 7 of an nba finals (not to mention the refs felt bad for miami sucking so bad that hey gave them the calls down the stretch). Heat still suck, jerk it to that, son.
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
i dont even have a username on that site, jackass...and regardless, the heat suck, nothing changed from when they couldn't beat the legit contenders. even the clippers can beat memphis...and any team can beat the lakers if they play it like it's a game 7 of an nba finals (not to mention the refs felt bad for miami sucking so bad that hey gave them the calls down the stretch). Heat still suck, jerk it to that, son.
how come i went there and saw u posting? lmao @ this liar
i only jerk to to MY team winning
and orit photos
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^LOL, just admit you're upset because your four paragraph speech you were about to give if the Lakers won will have to wait until June..maybe.
notice how since the HEAT won over LA nik has not returned to dba
i dont even have a username on that site, jackass...and regardless, the heat suck, nothing changed from when they couldn't beat the legit contenders. even the clippers can beat memphis...and any team can beat the lakers if they play it like it's a game 7 of an nba finals (not to mention the refs felt bad for miami sucking so bad that hey gave them the calls down the stretch). Heat still suck, jerk it to that, son.
how come i went there and saw u posting? lmao @ this liar
i only jerk to to MY team winning
and orit photos
because people love my nuts and there's probably a fake alias imitating me..not that hard to figure out, idiot.
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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :sshh:
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HEAT WIN BY 30 OVER THE SPURS
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The Lakers really reanimated the Heat. Good job Laker-squad. :P
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HEAT WIN BY 30 OVER THE SPURS
The NBA is rigged lol. They just wanted to be able to have that "30 for 30" headline after we beat them by 30, and then they beat us by 30
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HEAT WIN BY 30 OVER THE SPURS
The NBA is rigged lol. They just wanted to be able to have that "30 for 30" headline after we beat them by 30, and then they beat us by 30
Stop with the NIK excuses.
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^Na, I know Daygo is fucking around...I think lol.
The thing with NIK is that he claims it's fixed, but then tries to explain why the Lakers will win. If it's fixed, don't start ringing off reasons why they'll win because supposedly it's predetermined lol.
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HEAT WIN BY 30 OVER THE SPURS
The NBA is rigged lol. They just wanted to be able to have that "30 for 30" headline after we beat them by 30, and then they beat us by 30
Stop with the NIK excuses.
Its a joke...
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^Na, I know Daygo is fucking around...I think lol.
The thing with NIK is that he claims it's fixed, but then tries to explain why the Lakers will win. If it's fixed, don't start ringing off reasons why they'll win because supposedly it's predetermined lol.
Yeah, I was fucking around
The thing with NIK is that he tries to claim its fixed...but then will try and prove that the league would fix it so that the most popular team with the most fans WONT win it all lol. If its fixed by the league, the Lakers will be in the finals every year....this year....against the Heat.
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oh ofcourse not - Boston will
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HEAT WIN BY 30 OVER THE SPURS
The NBA is rigged lol. They just wanted to be able to have that "30 for 30" headline after we beat them by 30, and then they beat us by 30
Stop with the NIK excuses.
i never make any excuses...refs clearly show bias towards certain teams on a game to game basis, and this is pretty dumb to poke fun at when there is proof. nothing is fixed, some refs simply favor some teams in certain games. it's up to the teams to fight through that, since it's part of the game...no need for the bandwaggon comment.
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Miami's gonna play OKC tonight at 8 pm
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Wade's dunk on Perkins= :o Dunk of the year
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http://www.youtube.com/v/JUbQ2FMtaFI
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http://www.youtube.com/v/JUbQ2FMtaFI
too bad they lost
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^I guess it is too bad they lost.
I'm done with the regular season, bring on the playoffs.
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good game
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Wade's dunk on Perkins= :o Dunk of the year
its up there
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That guys hand is clearly on orits ass
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That guys hand is clearly on orits ass
That's Erik Spoelstra.
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
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Lifetime
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That guys hand is clearly on orits ass
That's Erik Spoelstra.
ROFLMFAO!!!
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
If you think she sucked 4 dicks in one night, what makes you think she only sucked 23 in her lifetime? It's simple mathematics, boy.
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
If you think she sucked 4 dicks in one night, what makes you think she only sucked 23 in her lifetime? It's simple mathematics, boy.
4 dicks THAT night. She looks extra down in that picture.
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Schlomo probably hid in the closest eating a footlong deli sandwich while orit got all three holes filled. Elior videotaped it
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
If you think she sucked 4 dicks in one night, what makes you think she only sucked 23 in her lifetime? It's simple mathematics, boy.
4 dicks THAT night. She looks extra down in that picture.
I get it, but I don't think a woman who would suck 4 dicks in one night would have only sucked 23 in her lifetime.
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Heat may go higher in the standings , besides the Celtics and Hawks , the remaining games are against garbage teams
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Our starting Pg Rio just went down, should be a blessing in desguise though.. This team looks alot more N sync with Mike Bibby running the offense, not to mention dudes always had a great J. If you dont have the #1 seed, than it really doesnt mean shit..if you split the first 2 games, then home court shifts back to your favor anyway. Im not worried about anything, i know my heat goin be ready and in a 7 game " chess match" series, i do not see no team beating us out East with our versatility i;e lebron / d wade on the block.
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Lebron has 76 over the past 2 games despite missing an entire quarter
my pick for MVP
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the knicks just CAN'T beat boston :D
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
lmao
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Whats the over under on how many dicks orits sucked?
Lifetime or that night?
Lifetime I'd have to say over/under 27.5. I'll take the under. I'm thinking a solid 23.
That night 3.5. Over, easy.
If you think she sucked 4 dicks in one night, what makes you think she only sucked 23 in her lifetime? It's simple mathematics, boy.
4 dicks THAT night. She looks extra down in that picture.
I get it, but I don't think a woman who would suck 4 dicks in one night would have only sucked 23 in her lifetime.
more like 203
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Magic - Knicks
good game
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Craziness
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
1st time 3 players of the same team have 30 pts and 10 boards during the same game since ... 1961 !
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
Heat or Lakers?
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
Heat or Lakers?
Spurs > http://www.nba.com/games/20101014/SASCLE/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
Heat or Lakers?
Spurs > http://www.nba.com/games/20101014/SASCLE/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Spurs that did not play in that game...
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobli
Richard Jefferson
Matt Bonner
Tiago Splitter
4 out of our 5 starters out. We had 6 players that played between 15 and 25 minutes in that game, that we ended up sending back down to the D-league because they were mainly fillers lol
This was also at the beginning of the season when people were marveling at how well the Cavs were actually playing. Not in the middle of the season where they were absolutely terrible.
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
Heat or Lakers?
Spurs > http://www.nba.com/games/20101014/SASCLE/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Spurs that did not play in that game...
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobli
Richard Jefferson
Matt Bonner
Tiago Splitter
4 out of our 5 starters out. We had 6 players that played between 15 and 25 minutes in that game, that we ended up sending back down to the D-league because they were mainly fillers lol
This was also at the beginning of the season when people were marveling at how well the Cavs were actually playing. Not in the middle of the season where they were absolutely terrible.
LOL. You didn't notice it was a preseason game?
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The big three all had 30 & 10 tonight. :o 8)
Crazy
Kind of like losing to the Cavs.
Heat or Lakers?
Spurs > http://www.nba.com/games/20101014/SASCLE/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Spurs that did not play in that game...
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobli
Richard Jefferson
Matt Bonner
Tiago Splitter
4 out of our 5 starters out. We had 6 players that played between 15 and 25 minutes in that game, that we ended up sending back down to the D-league because they were mainly fillers lol
This was also at the beginning of the season when people were marveling at how well the Cavs were actually playing. Not in the middle of the season where they were absolutely terrible.
LOL. You didn't notice it was a preseason game?
Oh shit....nope...lol
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
them lakers are on a 3 game losing streak, quit worrying about Daygo
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miami beats my boys by 23 and this forum is SILENT?
smh
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miami beats my boys by 23 and this forum is SILENT?
smh
You haven't started a single thread about the Lakers' current losing streak, either. Dubcc is dying.
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
them lakers are on a 3 game losing streak, quit worrying about Daygo
lol So I didnt notice that game back towards the beginning of the season was preseason at first lol.
I hate to break it to Scittles, but if youre a full grown man (who should be supporting himself by now), and you still have so little responsibilities that you watch all 82 of your teams games....youre not a fan, youre a loser lol. But I guess that comes with the territory when talkin about somebody whos whole world came crashing down cus of an internet message board.
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miami beats my boys by 23 and this forum is SILENT?
smh
You haven't started a single thread about the Lakers' current losing streak, either. Dubcc is dying.
i was banned for half of it :D
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
them lakers are on a 3 game losing streak, quit worrying about Daygo
lol So I didnt notice that game back towards the beginning of the season was preseason at first lol.
if youre a full grown man (who should be supporting himself by now), and you still have so little responsibilities that you watch all 82 of your teams games....youre not a fan, youre a loser lol.
OHHHHH BURNNNNN
NIK GOT PWNT
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
them lakers are on a 3 game losing streak, quit worrying about Daygo
lol So I didnt notice that game back towards the beginning of the season was preseason at first lol.
I hate to break it to Scittles, but if youre a full grown man (who should be supporting himself by now), and you still have so little responsibilities that you watch all 82 of your teams games....youre not a fan, youre a loser lol. But I guess that comes with the territory when talkin about somebody whos whole world came crashing down cus of an internet message board.
dickriding faggot, i not only support myself, but i support my parents as well. but quit worrying about my life in a laker thread like the groupie that you are while acting like the internet is life like the fuckin loser that you are...in the sports section, we talk sports, not NIK 101, asianfruit.
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LOL...Daygo can't even remember what teams beat the Spurs this season. sometimes i wonder if he even watches the games. "YEA BUT ALL OUR STARTERS WERE OUT AND THE CAVS WERE REALLY GOOD BACK THEN!" LMAO.
them lakers are on a 3 game losing streak, quit worrying about Daygo
lol So I didnt notice that game back towards the beginning of the season was preseason at first lol.
I hate to break it to Scittles, but if youre a full grown man (who should be supporting himself by now), and you still have so little responsibilities that you watch all 82 of your teams games....youre not a fan, youre a loser lol. But I guess that comes with the territory when talkin about somebody whos whole world came crashing down cus of an internet message board.
dickriding faggot, i not only support myself, but i support my parents as well. but quit worrying about my life in a laker thread like the groupie that you are while acting like the internet is life like the fuckin loser that you are...in the sports section, we talk sports, not NIK 101, asianfruit.
Another L for Scittles
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over at DBA somebody posted ORIT'S contact info
i say we contact her and see if NIK really supports her and schlomo or not.....
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over at DBA somebody posted ORIT'S contact info
i say we contact her and see if NIK really supports her and schlomo or not.....
Do it. I guarantee he doesn't lol. I remember him saying how much he made before lol
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miami beats my boys by 23 and this forum is SILENT?
smh
You haven't started a single thread about the Lakers' current losing streak, either. Dubcc is dying.
i was banned for half of it :D
Jome needs to stop banning some of this forum's most active members.
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miami beats my boys by 23 and this forum is SILENT?
smh
You haven't started a single thread about the Lakers' current losing streak, either. Dubcc is dying.
i was banned for half of it :D
Jome needs to stop banning some of this forum's most active members....EXCEPT ALONE-O
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not to discredit the heat, but the celtics simply aren't the same team since the perkins trade.
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not to discredit the heat, but the celtics simply aren't the same team since the perkins trade.
It will be the death of them.
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not to discredit the heat, but the celtics simply aren't the same team since the perkins trade.
It will be the death of them.
Yeah, i think that was a stupid trade. I understand wanting to get more athletic...but no matter who they picked up they arent going to match the Heats athletisism. Might as well have utilized their size and just dominated the paint. There is no guarantee Shaq will give them much at all in the playoffs.
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we'll get to the Miami series at the least
ain't no NYK knocking us off in a 7 game series...granted htey may push us to 6 or 7 lol
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the asian faggot and the balding whiteboy from maine are two of the gayest faggot ass dickriders in the history of this site...
how does it feel watching me in the finals of your rigged league, you fuckin bitch? lmao
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playoffs tomorrow
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playoffs tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/v/HsG5uq9xOKo
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the asian faggot and the balding whiteboy from maine are two of the gayest faggot ass dickriders in the history of this site...
this coming from the biggest laker and kobe dickrider in the history of riding dicks :laugh: gtfoh
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
LOL@someone from Maine dissing LA. this website in a nutshell.
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
LOL@someone from Maine dissing LA. this website in a nutshell.
LA?
woodland hills isn't LA it's more like Bel Air :D
and we got a lot less crime and police brutality here - i never been caught with scales :D
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
LOL@someone from Maine dissing LA. this website in a nutshell.
LA?
woodland hills isn't LA it's more like Bel Air :D
and we got a lot less crime and police brutality here - i never been caught with scales :D
WH is in Los Angeles county, genius...
i'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would rather live out here than in Maine.
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
LOL@someone from Maine dissing LA. this website in a nutshell.
LA?
woodland hills isn't LA it's more like Bel Air :D
and we got a lot less crime and police brutality here - i never been caught with scales :D
WH is in Los Angeles county, genius...
i'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would rather live out here than in Maine.
in your narrow mind I'm sure you believe this.....like you also believed you look like "the white kobe" as you use to say.
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I'm not even balding yet lmao I was just blessed with a receding hairline :D I guess his insuilts were meant to hurt me though :(
i could only WISH to be raised in the harsh hoods of Woodland Hills and still come out looking lioke "the white Kobe" as NIK once refered to himself as (before his pics got posted)
LOL@someone from Maine dissing LA. this website in a nutshell.
LA?
woodland hills isn't LA it's more like Bel Air :D
and we got a lot less crime and police brutality here - i never been caught with scales :D
WH is in Los Angeles county, genius...
i'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would rather live out here than in Maine.
in your narrow mind I'm sure you believe this.....like you also believed you look like "the white kobe" as you use to say.
i never said i looked like the white kobe. 1. 'm not white and 2.i dont think that i look like him....i said people say i look like a whiter kobe, and thats true. ive gotten it a lot. even on this very website.
and if u rather live in maine than la, kill urself.
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there are lots of better places in Cali than LA
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there are lots of better places in Cali than LA
and theyre all better than maine lmao
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there are lots of better places in Cali than LA
and theyre all better than maine lmao
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2812/jafalior.png)
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LA is a homo infested sewer
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lol Saying youre in Los Angeles COUNTY doesnt mean shit. The county is bigger than Rhode Island and Deleware combined.
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Woodland Hills is actually within the city of L.A.
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heat down by 5 against Philly
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heat down by 5 against Philly
It doesn't matter. The Heat aren't losing in Miami.
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heat down by 5 against Philly
It doesn't matter. The Heat aren't losing in Miami.
i could see t hem losing a game
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Woodland Hills is actually within the city of L.A.
it doesnt matter...nik lives there, so it's discluded
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Woodland Hills is actually within the city of L.A.
it doesnt matter...a crybaby jew lives there, so it's discluded
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ORLANDO lost lmao
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ORLANDO lost lmao
Howard went nuts
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ORLANDO lost lmao
Howard went nuts
yeah dude was putting up Wilt stats last night but despite him AND Jameer in the 3rd Q they still weren't really that close.
Stan Van the master of Pan-ick
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i can't wait for the Celtics....why the fuck's it gonna be 7 pm dammit. first 2 games are gonna be boring.
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lol Saying youre in Los Angeles COUNTY doesnt mean shit. The county is bigger than Rhode Island and Deleware combined.
lmao this is true too. Elior thinks he's in the real city.
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I'd still take Chris Paul over D-rose
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I'd still take Chris Paul over D-rose
I'd take CP3 over any point guard.
Hornets win! 8)
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what a great game 3 so far
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the color guy said to Marv Albert "Barring a bus crash for the Miami Heat they should win this series...." and then Albret shut him up lmao
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Fuck. :-\
If they're going to beat the Sixers, they better fucking win a ring now. >:(
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Fuck. :-\
If they're going to beat the Sixers, they better fucking win a ring now. >:(
lol naw
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^^^^ they have a very good chance to beat the post trade Celtics though ...
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^^^^ they have a very good chance to beat the post trade Celtics though ...
unless Shaq comes back and plays like it's 1999 again I'm starting to agree
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Danny Ainge is the only one to blame .... you don't break up a team which was a lock for the Finals... I still try to figure out what the hell was he thinking but so far I haven't
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So far the Heat look like the new lock for the Finals... Rose needs the whistle and I'm sure he's not gonna get it more than LeBron and Wade combined
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So far the Heat look like the new lock for the Finals... Rose needs the whistle and I'm sure he's not gonna get it more than LeBron and Wade combined
and Bosh is better than Whodini aka Carlos Boozer who disapears in the playoffs
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hey Elior do you think Lebron will get the sweep tomorrow?
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hey Elior do you think Lebron will get the sweep tomorrow?
probably
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everyones talkin down on my team sayin we aint ready to take down the ECF champs because we lack a half court game.. B.S. take a look at game 1 to how we are running plays and executing them
how d wade is playing off the ball and lebron
Mike bibby came in and quarterbacks extremely well helping the team play as a unit.. man that game next week vs the celtics is gonna be a all out war cant wait :)
c's booted lebron and d wade out last year
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c's booted lebron and d wade out last year
and we'll do it again to them too
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WHAT A GAME
8 secs left 76ers by 2
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Just when you thought Elton Brand's ass was useless lol
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Heat lose
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Philly wins. 8)
Comeback.
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Philly wins. 8)
Comeback.
lebron gets another game to add to his playoff stats before the series is over lol
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I'd still take Chris Paul over D-rose
I'd take CP3 over any point guard.
Hornets win! 8)
even over Deron Rose?
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Philly played great. Couldn't be prouder of my boys. Jrue Holiday is going to be a star one day. Love the young talent. 8)
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I'd pick the Heat over the C's ... then the latest 2 games remind Miami has still no idea what to do on the offensive end down the stretch .. not sure whose going to win that matchup
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I can see this either going the distance or Boston in four.
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I'd still take Chris Paul over D-rose
I'd take CP3 over any point guard.
Hornets win! 8)
even over Deron Rose?
damn...if u could combine all the best qualities of d-will and derrick rose and put them into 1 player, u really would have the best point guard
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I'd still take Chris Paul over D-rose
I'd take CP3 over any point guard.
Hornets win! 8)
even over Deron Rose?
damn...if u could combine all the best qualities of d-will and derrick rose and put them into 1 player, u really would have the best point guard
evar
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It's funny how at least half of this thread has nothing to do with the Heat
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This is gonna be a classic series. Garnett will probably start some shit a wayyy smaller white player, ala Miller or Bibby. Then when the Heat own them in one game real badly, Garnett will give all the credit to some insignificant role player, ala Anthony or Chalmers.
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Keys for Boston :
- Not getting owned on the glass : Boston always has been a bad rebounding team , has gone worse without Perkins dirty work in the paint .. Miami isn't outstanding in this aspect , but significantly better than the C's , both Z and Anthony are good offensive rebounders
- Rondo Power (the player not the poster) : well a good part of his productivity depends on the 1st key... the more the C's control the defensive boards the more he can get in transition where he excels... has to be very agressive offensively when guarded by Bibby.. won't be as easy with Chalmers who is a way better defender
Keys for Miami:
- Chris Bosh : Boston has done a great job at preventing the superstars to beat them these latest years ... so somebody else has to do it ... he will probably have to average a efficiently 18-20 pts , 9-10 boards if Miami wants to win this series
- Role players shooting : with Bron and Wade being zoned by Boston D ... Chalmers, Bibby and J Jones will have to hit the 3pts open looks they gonna have on a consistant basis
Question marks for Boston :
- How much are they going to miss Tony Allen D against Wade and Bron ? Both Pierce and Ray will have to guard them more minutes and spend a ton of energy on the defensive side of the floor .. it could affect their offensive efficiency (see Pierce last year against the Cavs ... spent so much energy defending Lebron that he was horrible on offense
- the center postion : JO ( who did a good job at anchoring the paint against the Knicks but has trouble to stay on the floor because of fouls) isn't enough ... Kristic is a defensive liability, I don't think Shaq can give em a solid 15 mins (if he ever comes back in this series)
Miami has to feel good if Boston has to play KG-Davis together for the majority of the game
Question marks for Miami :
- Defense on Ray Allen : Jesus torched them in the 1st three RR meetings and he's on a roll right now... Wade has done a bad job at chasing him through picks ... Miami has to limit Allen wide open looks
- Execution down the stretch : Miami has still no idea in which hands the ball has to go down the stretch and the lack of running any plays is just pathetic...
imo they should run pick n rolls with Wade and Bosh
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Predictions : they split the first four games with each team winning a game on the other team's floor ... whoever is winning Game 5 is taking the series ... Boston would finish the job at home in Game 6 , Miami at home in Game 7
I'm going to say Boston in 6
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I'm going with Celtics over Heat in 6.
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Heat in 6. LeBron is gonna go all out since niggas be talkin shit how he quit against the Celtics last year. Actually I believe the Heat could have more trouble with the Bulls. Noah gon rape the glass, Garnett won't.
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Heat win. I don't care how many games.
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Before that Perkins trade I woulda definitely taken the Celtics, but now I'm not really sure. As much as I like Jeff Green that was a retarded move by the C's.
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Boston is weaker....Miami in 6. if Miami flops, as they are very capable of doing, Boston has a shot...but as of now, Boston ain't lookin 2 good against Miami.
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Beautiful game. 8)
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Celtics got this in 6.
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This was the exact same scenario that the last RR meeting ... Boston lacks size and defensive talent when it comes to their big ... Tony Allen loss is huge as expected .. and Miami role players , this time JJ , knocked the open looks down
On the other end , Miami perimeter D is very solid , pb is Boston don't have any post up player to play inside out B-Ball and get higher % shots
We'll see which adjustments Boston will do but they can't lose track of off ball players THAT much ... the amount of easy baskets Wade, James got by cutting to the hoop is ridiculous ... poor defensive rotations on James Jones and Bibby aswell
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Celtics got this in 6.
We'll see if they can take Game 2... if not they don't have it anymore .. they have to play way better D than this and both Rondo and KG have to better offensively
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GEORGE BUSH LOVES LEBRON
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"second fiddle". ::)
LeBron just dominated.
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lets see how they do in Boss-town.
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Shaq's coming back for game 3, mind you he hasn't played since feb 3rd. Look for him to do a rick the model martel close-line on D wade coming down the lane. Heat are gonna get his big slow ass on the move making him step out and gaurd big Z's automatic mid range shot. im also looking for them to run a high screen and roll with d wade or lebron (ouch) at the 3 pt line when shaq comes into the game.
Our D is looking amazing, every blocked shot or stolen ball seems to be 2 pt's the other way its truly a thing of beauty. lookin forward to a night of great sports night boys,this game followed up by manny's non singin ass vs mosley in the ring. C's backs against the ropes well see how they respond, hopefully they respond like the Lakers ;)
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I don't know why, but I feel like the Heat are going to drop one tonight.
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they better
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KG drops 28 points and 18 rebounds
Pierce drops 27 points and Rondo has 11 assists
great way to start off the 2 game homestand
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lets hope Rondo is ok for game 4
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that rondo injury was fucking disgusting, almost as bad as the bogut injury
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Watching the way the Heat played last night, it didn't even seem like the same team from games 1 and 2. I fully expect Boston to win game 4 as well; Boston still has a legit shot in this series. Bosh is an even bigger pussy than Gasol, Bron got locked up, and Pierce and KG played great.
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Watching the way the Heat played last night, it didn't even seem like the same team from games 1 and 2. I fully expect Boston to win game 4 as well; Boston still has a legit shot in this series. Bosh is an even bigger pussy than Gasol, Bron got locked up, and Pierce and KG played great.
and Rondo playin tough as nails, nobody on Miami is that tough
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D wade is hardbody, the man's spent half of his 20's on the nba hardwood going to the hoop with wreckless abandon.
I knew, Miami wasnt going into boston taking all 2 games. The goal is to steal 1 at the TD garden and come back with all of our talents back to south beach and put the celtics to bed. Rondo shit swelled up today and couldnt practice im waiting for that MRI im pretty sure doc rivers aint sayin shit about the nature of the injury. prolly gonna give us all a wrong diagnosis like Rondo's fine i seen him dunkin from the free throw line.
Bosh pulled a disappearing act this is his first go in the 2nd round ever, i know he got a little bit of paula from the lakers inside of him but im hopin he aint that bad
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With the Lakers out, I feel pretty confident about them.
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Cham: I wouldn't be mad if Heat win, but when a team shuts down their transition game they really struggle.
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lmao @ teh Lakers
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nobody watchin the game?
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Just a bunch of stupid mistakes for Miami outside of LeBron & Wade.
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KG just doesn't have it tonight with his jumpers
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What a great way to close out.
Bosh came through tonight. They are unbeatable when he plays up to par with the other two.
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nobody watchin the game?
just 2 people in this thread, smh @ dubcc sports' lack of traffic
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nobody watchin the game?
just 2 people in this thread, smh @ dubcc sports' lack of traffic
They must all be at "Da Sauce". The most poppin' real life forum on the net. 8)
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very true
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nobody watchin the game?
just 2 people in this thread, smh @ dubcc sports' lack of traffic
nobody gives a fuck about the NBA once the Lakers lose, son
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nobody watchin the game?
just 2 people in this thread, smh @ dubcc sports' lack of traffic
nobody gives a fuck about the NBA once the Lakers lose, son
watch this years Heatles vs whoever matchup blow the Lakers/Celtis ratings away
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its funny how everyone is so quick on tv and the media to go and attack chris bosh since hes the third fiddle, but the fact is hes outplayed KG 3 of the 4 games this series. CB had another good game tonight. And KG was TERRIBLE. And you wont hear TNT anylists talking about how "Soft" KG played one bit.
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its funny how everyone is so quick on tv and the media to go and attack chris bosh since hes the third fiddle, but the fact is hes outplayed KG 3 of the 4 games this series. CB had another good game tonight. And KG was TERRIBLE. And you wont hear TNT anylists talking about how "Soft" KG played one bit.
KG didn't play soft, he just sucked at shooting tonight
KG is a proven HOFer, Bosh is a nice 3rd piece
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I think it's because the media won't take shots at Wade & LeBron. They need them to be superstars. So if there is a crumble in Miami whether it be against Boston, or in the next round or in the Finals, they have someone to blame other than Wade & LeBron.
Like I said, when Bosh plays up to par with the other two, they can't lose. So naturally when he plays below par, the blame has to fall on him. Unfair. But that way the media is going to work.
As for KG. That faggot gets the "Well, he's old." excuse. Like Hack said though, I wouldn't call him soft. He just couldn't hit shit. But even then, the analysts were still saying how he "had an off night". Where Bosh just gets the "Wow, dude is awful!" when he has a rough game; like Game 3.
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it's normal to have off-nights when you have 3 games in 6 days and you're like 35. garnett didn't have that kind of nights when he was bosh's age.
another factor is how garnett is a fucking asshole in real life, whereas bosh ADMITS that he sucked so bad because the road crowd atmosphere made him nervous. doesn't get more sissy than that.
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another factor is how garnett is a fucking asshole in real life
lmao the media hates assholes (Barry bonds anyone?)
Garnett is a historically great player, Bosh isn't
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BOSTON -- LeBron James opened his postgame comments Monday by saying he's sorry for using the word "retarded" in a previous news conference.
"I want to apologize for using the 'R' word after Game 3," James said after the Heat's Game 4 overtime victory against the Boston Celtics. "If I offended anyone, I sincerely apologize."
The Miami Heat star muttered the word after Game 3 of the Eastern Conference semifinals as he and Dwyane Wade listened to a question about Wade's takedown of Boston guard Rajon Rondo.
James had his hand covering his mouth when he said, "That's retarded," as a reporter asked Wade whether the play that dislocated Rondo's elbow was dirty.
Earlier Monday, James was asked to clarify his use of the characterization, but declined.
"I didn't understand the question," James said. "It is definitely blown out of proportion. I don't think Dwyane is a dirty player. It's the same as ... I don't think that is a great question. I think that's a stupid question. I don't know why someone would even ask that question."
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LeBron = God.
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LeBron = God.
no, Mariano Rivera is god.
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anyone notice how dope the all time HEAT team is?
PG D-wade
SG Glenn Rice
SF Lebron
PF Bosh
C Alonzo
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http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/columns/story?columnist=may_peter&id=6518077
BOSTON -- Twice, Kevin Garnett appeared on the giant video screen in the fourth quarter of Monday night's nail-biter, reminding the fans in a taped message what they needed to do.
"What ya waitin' for? It's the fourth quarter," he blared to the capacity crowd in the message intended to fire up the fans at TD Garden. That was with 4:55 to play and the Celtics trailing 79-78.
Two minutes later, he was back. "This is it! I need to feel it."
AP Photo/Elise AmendolaWhile KG struggled all night, Chris Bosh redeemed himself with 20 points -- including a key tip-in in overtime -- and 12 rebounds.
Indeed he did.
Too bad KG didn't follow his own advice.
Forty-eight hours after delivering a Back to the Future special (28 points, 18 rebounds, his best game of the 2011 playoffs by far), the "Big Ticket" pretty much came up punchless in the Celtics' 98-90 overtime Game 4 loss to Miami, dropping them into a 3-1 hole in the best-of-seven Eastern Conference semifinal series.
It was almost Dickensian in its drop-off: the best of times to the worst of times. Two nights earlier, he had played a game that had Miami coach Erik Spoelstra comparing him to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. After Game 4, Spoelstra went into coach-speak mode, calling Garnett "a champion," and would not admit to the obvious, other than to say, "He had one of those nights."
He sure did. Even more humbling for Garnett, he got outplayed by the heretofore Heat cipher, Chris Bosh, whom he dismissed postgame by saying, "Next question," when asked about the Miami forward's game. For the record, Bosh had 20 points, 12 rebounds and a gigantic tip-in basket with 24.2 seconds left in OT that gave the Heat a 95-90 lead.
Garnett finished with seven points, the second game in this series in which he has scored fewer than 10 points. He had six in the series-opening loss in Miami. He bricked his final nine shots after making his first, and only, basket of the game, a 20-foot jumper with 5:15 left in the first quarter. He did grab 10 rebounds in his 41-plus minutes, all off the defensive glass.
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But he failed to set a pick on the final play of regulation -- a play the Celtics have run about 10,000 times -- which forced Paul Pierce (27 points) to go solo and miss the potential game winner, and series evener, at the buzzer.
"We're kicking ourselves over that," Ray Allen said. Allen was one of the options on the play that never materialized because the pick-and-roll never materialized. Added Rajon Rondo, "[There was] a lot of talking during the huddle [prior to the play] and there wasn't enough listening, I don't believe."
No one identified Garnett as the culprit, but he is the unofficial team motormouth. Asked about Rondo's comment, he said, "We're a talkative group, but once we're on the floor, it's about actions. The talking doesn't really result into [anything]. The actions do."
And when you don't set the pick, the player, Pierce in this instance, ends up, in the words of coach Doc Rivers, "on the island." Then, on the first possession of overtime, Garnett threw the ball away, the second of his two turnovers.
He looked out of sorts and out of sync much of the night.
"I didn't really have the rhythm that I had the other night," said Garnett, who was 13-of-20 from the field in Game 3. "I expected them to make some adjustments, but you make them, you make them, you miss them, you miss them. I don't think that's where the game was won. I think defense -- we've been preaching this the whole series, that defense is where this thing is going to be won at, and we needed the stops; we didn't get them."
He's probably right about that, although you could say that anytime Kevin Garnett makes one basket -- and the game goes into overtime -- that that in and of itself could be a reason for concern. But the Celtics got clobbered on the boards and coughed it up 18 times, leading to 28 Miami points, so there was plenty of blame to go around.
Still, you have a right to expect the most prominent member of your Big Three to come up, well, big, when the stakes are highest. The Miami big three certainly did, combining for all but 15 of the Heat's 98 points -- and all but four in the second half and overtime. Allen shook off a slow start and finished with 17. Pierce had his 27, including some clutch hoops down the stretch. But Garnett was nowhere near what he needed to be.
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"We've got to do a better job of just getting him the ball in the right spots to where he can go to work," Pierce said.
Rivers did a veritable minuet when asked about Garnett's play. Was Garnett too reluctant in the game, he was asked?
"I don't know," Rivers said. "They trapped him a couple times, and I thought he was probably looking more for traps. We have to get him down there more. We tried. So, I don't know. I don't think so. I think he was looking for -- he was looking to be a passer more than being an aggressive scorer. And that was that."
Spoelstra, for one, is hoping the next 48 hours won't be enough time to get Garnett juiced again. Before Garnett's big performance in Game 3, there had been two not-so-great games and three days before the next game. Now, there's just one day before Garnett gets another chance at redemption.
"I'm not going to say anything about him,'' Spoelstra said. "Now he's got 48 hours to gain all his fuel again and fuel him up. I'm sure if I actually paid attention, that everybody will be saying whatever they will be saying about him. He's a champion. I have incredible respect for him."
Longtime Celtics reporter Peter May is a frequent contributor to ESPNBoston.com
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lmao @ bosh
hes the softest guy in the league per K Durant
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durant is too soft to demand the ball from the way less efficient westbrook :D
lol@durant talking with a sad face to his coach because westbrook is taking all the clutch shots, then missing one stupid step back 3 waaay behind the 3pt line instead of going to the basket
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Pretty funny. Durant & Bosh had some words for each other earlier in the season. That fight would be more pathetic than NIK/AcGrundy.
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The Heat are gonna be in tough to win tonight, but I think they'll pull it off with a great defensive effort, and with Rondo clearly not at a hundred percent.
I'm thinking the Heat are going to be in tough against the Bulls though, who rebound very, very well.
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Bulls are having a tough time against the Hawks.. that fact alone is enough for me to not be able to believe in them.. might go to more than 5 games, but in the end it's Mavs vs. Heat in the Finals, anything else would be shocking. Then again, the 2011 playoffs were loaded with shockers so far, so you never know I guess.
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cluuutch 3 by bron bron!! where ya at hack?
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WOW.. another major clutch 3 by james. what a player. celtics are D-O-N to the motherfucking E.
nigga followed it up with a steal, a dunk and a lay-up. nigga had 7 points in the last 40 seconds. what the fuck.
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LeBron > Jordan.
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nice work by paul pierce throwing the ball away and then laughing it up
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nice work by paul pierce throwing the ball away and then laughing it up
No response to Cham, but ya, I hate when players laugh in situations like this.
Lebron killed it at the end, good for him.
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Bron sealed the deal was easily the best player on the floor in the 4th quarter, put the team on his back and carried MIA to the victory. Wade, great first half, but LeBron really was the difference in this game. Bosh wasnt great, but played good enough and did have some key rebounds, a huge block on Pierce and a dunk late in the game.
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d wade carried us til lebron smashed the defending eastern conf champs dreams... what a series
credit boston, a team that doesnt just roll over alotta fight in that team
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Stats in the playoffs... crazy how these numbers are almost equal
Points:
LeBron – 261pts
Wade – 262pts
Assists:
LeBron – 49asts
Wade – 50asts
Steals:
LeBron – 13
Wade – 17
Blocks:
LeBron – 13
Wade – 13
Shot attempts:
LeBron – 189
Wade – 186
Free Throws:
LeBron – 92
Wade – 95
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Pretty obvious that Wade is AT THE VERY LEAST as good as LeBron, if not better....this is why LeBron will get props if he finally wins a title, but not nearly as much as he would've gotten as if he woulda' won it in Cleveland as the franchise player.
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damn man, Lebron was clutch in that 4th quarter
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it was all lebron at the end, he just wasn't gonna miss. 10 points in 8 seconds or whatever it was .. shit
wade nearly disappeared in the 4th, lebron got them that win
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it was all lebron at the end, he just wasn't gonna miss. 10 points in 8 seconds or whatever it was .. shit
wade nearly disappeared in the 4th, lebron got them that win
Wade put them in a position to even be close in the first place....wade: 34 points, 13-19 fg, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals lebron: 33 points 11-20, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block....he outperformed LeBron in ever category other than blocks...LeBron was great but there's not denying that he is not Miami's go-to-guy any more than Wade is.
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When the Heat started playing better toward the end of the year, it was LBJ who dominated for the first 3 quarters, and then Wade would go off in the 4th.
THis game was the opposite. Either way, these guys are both amazing players. This time it was Lebron's turn to be clutch, and damn was he clutch. Wade had a great game too; the game is 4 quarters
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it was all lebron at the end, he just wasn't gonna miss. 10 points in 8 seconds or whatever it was .. shit
wade nearly disappeared in the 4th, lebron got them that win
Wade put them in a position to even be close in the first place....wade: 34 points, 13-19 fg, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals lebron: 33 points 11-20, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block....he outperformed LeBron in ever category other than blocks...LeBron was great but there's not denying that he is not Miami's go-to-guy any more than Wade is.
so .. wade put them in a position to keep it even and lebron got them the win
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LOLOL, no buddy. Sorry NIK. Stats don't mean shit. ;)
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it was all lebron at the end, he just wasn't gonna miss. 10 points in 8 seconds or whatever it was .. shit
wade nearly disappeared in the 4th, lebron got them that win
Wade put them in a position to even be close in the first place....wade: 34 points, 13-19 fg, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals lebron: 33 points 11-20, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block....he outperformed LeBron in ever category other than blocks...LeBron was great but there's not denying that he is not Miami's go-to-guy any more than Wade is.
so .. wade put them in a position to keep it even and lebron got them the win
yes, which is why they're equally good...i personally like wade over lebron, but u could go either way.
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Lebron is the better overall player , the gap ain't as big as some people believe though
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Lebron is the better overall player , the gap ain't as big as some people believe though
It isn't.
LeBron > Wade > Durant >> Kobe >>> Melo; as it stands today 5/13/11 lol.
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Lebron is the better overall player , the gap ain't as big as some people believe though
It isn't.
LeBron > Wade > Durant >> Kobe >>> Melo; as it stands today 5/13/11 lol.
u got it backwards
Kobe>Durant>Wade>LeBron...and Kobe will be better next year. coming off of knee surgery and the multiple injuries he dealt with throughout the season really fucked with him...but he still made 1st team all-nba and first team all-defense, and was still in discussion for mvp up until the Lakers losing streak at the end of the season....wait til he comes back rested next year. LeBron obviously flourishes when he's not the go-to-guy. that is pretty much the mentality of an anti-great.
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^Nigga I can see you put Kobe above them cause you just love that nigga, but putting Durant above them is on some hater shit for real.
Niggas get so quick with dissing Bron Bron for not being clutch yet that nigga gets super clutch in clinching the Celtics, then again niggas still be hating how he ain't clutch and a scared fag who is better fitted as a 2nd option and shit, do that all you want, but don't be PUTTING FUCKING KEVIN DURANT OF ALL NIGGAS ABOVE HIM. That is the biggest hypocrisy one could think of. All that negative shit niggas say about Bron Bron applies to Durant times 10. You're as bad as Skip Bayless sometimes.
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lol, NIK is void from speaking.
Kobe scored 22 PPG in the playoffs.
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^Nigga I can see you put Kobe above them cause you just love that nigga, but putting Durant above them is on some hater shit for real.
Niggas get so quick with dissing Bron Bron for not being clutch yet that nigga gets super clutch in clinching the Celtics, then again niggas still be hating how he ain't clutch and a scared fag who is better fitted as a 2nd option and shit, do that all you want, but don't be PUTTING FUCKING KEVIN DURANT OF ALL NIGGAS ABOVE HIM. That is the biggest hypocrisy one could think of. All that negative shit niggas say about Bron Bron applies to Durant times 10. You're as bad as Skip Bayless sometimes.
LOL, give Durant a Wade isntead of a Westbrook, and see where the Thunder would be......LeBron is not fucking clutch lmao. there was absolutely no pressure on him in that Boston series. Wait until there's some real pressure around and watch the muthafucka start biting his nails again....bet u anything. Durant has one bad game and u get all excited to talk shit, calm down. Remember, Durant is the go-to-guy on his team and LeBron is not. Durant already has 2 40+ point games in the playoffs, LeBron has none........wait a lil longer to do your shit-talking.
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lol, NIK is void from speaking.
Kobe scored 22 PPG in the playoffs.
Kobe scored 34 in Game 1 against New Orleans...Lakers lost
Kobe scored 36 in Game 1 against Dallas....Lakers lost
Kobe did not have a second option like any of the players I mentioned in my post and that's why we lost. Recognize.
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^Nigga I can see you put Kobe above them cause you just love that nigga, but putting Durant above them is on some hater shit for real.
Niggas get so quick with dissing Bron Bron for not being clutch yet that nigga gets super clutch in clinching the Celtics, then again niggas still be hating how he ain't clutch and a scared fag who is better fitted as a 2nd option and shit, do that all you want, but don't be PUTTING FUCKING KEVIN DURANT OF ALL NIGGAS ABOVE HIM. That is the biggest hypocrisy one could think of. All that negative shit niggas say about Bron Bron applies to Durant times 10. You're as bad as Skip Bayless sometimes.
LOL, give Durant a Wade isntead of a Westbrook, and see where the Thunder would be......LeBron is not fucking clutch lmao. there was absolutely no pressure on him in that Boston series. Wait until there's some real pressure around and watch the muthafucka start biting his nails again....bet u anything. Durant has one bad game and u get all excited to talk shit, calm down. Remember, Durant is the go-to-guy on his team and LeBron is not. Durant already has 2 40+ point games in the playoffs, LeBron has none........wait a lil longer to do your shit-talking.
Durant is almost a plain scorer, whereas LeBron does lots other shit too. Also, Durant has more talent around him than LeBron ever had in Cleveland. Wade is better than Westbrook, still Westbrook shits on Durant on a regular basis. Is there any good player Durant can guard, by the way? LeBron is clearly better than Durant, as is Wade. You know this. So why are you hating?
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^Nigga I can see you put Kobe above them cause you just love that nigga, but putting Durant above them is on some hater shit for real.
Niggas get so quick with dissing Bron Bron for not being clutch yet that nigga gets super clutch in clinching the Celtics, then again niggas still be hating how he ain't clutch and a scared fag who is better fitted as a 2nd option and shit, do that all you want, but don't be PUTTING FUCKING KEVIN DURANT OF ALL NIGGAS ABOVE HIM. That is the biggest hypocrisy one could think of. All that negative shit niggas say about Bron Bron applies to Durant times 10. You're as bad as Skip Bayless sometimes.
LOL, give Durant a Wade isntead of a Westbrook, and see where the Thunder would be......LeBron is not fucking clutch lmao. there was absolutely no pressure on him in that Boston series. Wait until there's some real pressure around and watch the muthafucka start biting his nails again....bet u anything. Durant has one bad game and u get all excited to talk shit, calm down. Remember, Durant is the go-to-guy on his team and LeBron is not. Durant already has 2 40+ point games in the playoffs, LeBron has none........wait a lil longer to do your shit-talking.
Durant is almost a plain scorer, whereas LeBron does lots other shit too. Also, Durant has more talent around him than LeBron ever had in Cleveland. Wade is better than Westbrook, still Westbrook shits on Durant on a regular basis. Is there any good player Durant can guard, by the way? LeBron is clearly better than Durant, as is Wade. You know this. So why are you hating?
durant is not a plain scorer, he's a good defender with bothersome length, a wingspan that lebron and wade can only dream of and a jumpshot that they would kill for. Easily the best pure scorer of the three...Durant barely has more talent on his team than LeBron did with Cleveland...LeBron ran with All-Star Carlos Boozer, All-Star Zydruna Ilgauskas, All-Star Mo-Will, All-Star Antawn Jamison, All-Defense Varaejo, Ben Wallace, Hickson and some of the best defensive units in the league. People make excuses for him, but the fact that he is not a true leader is what seperates Durant from him...Westbrook is good, but nowhere near Durant as of now, whereas Wade and LeBron are on the same level.....Durant>LeBron...if u think that's a ridiculous opinion, then go find some European boards to post on.
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LOL@your coke sniffing ass bringing up those players, it is beyond funny. When did Boozer leave? How old was James back then? Who else was on the team? LOL.
Ben Wallace, are you on methadon? That nigga was a straight up corpse on the Cavs. "All-Star Ilgauskas" LOL. You're a faggot for real, always using major double standards. That's like saying Howard played with All-Star Arenas. By the way, what was Kobe doing, getting swept in the 2nd round with All-Star Gasol, All-Star Artest, 6th Man of the Year Odom and the 2nd best center in the league? Durant a true leader? You mean the guy that can barely get a clutch shot because a player who is not on the same level as he is is taking most of them? The guy that would rather calmly talk with wet eyes to the assistant coach before he would scream at Westbrook? :D
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Is the Kobe groupie sayin Lebron isnt clutch? When statistically its already been proven that he is actually more clutch than Kobe. lol. Taking more shots doesnt make you more clutch, it just makes you a bigger ball hog. Shooting a higher percentage DOES however make you more clutch. Once again, its been proven that Carmelo, Gasol, Duncan, LEBRON, etc....all more CLUTCH than Kobe
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NIK you are being a huge nut hugger for real. Your theories are so fucking lame they are way beyond even being considered as a valid point to any debate.
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NIK you are being a huge nut hugger for real. Your theories are so fucking lame they are way beyond even being considered as a valid point to any debate.
Its been this way for a decade lol
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All this KD talk is depressing, but hey, at least I got to watch him put up 15 points on 4-17 shooting every other night.
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heat are gonna fuck up the bulls i thinks
6 games tops
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I say d wades offense better than lebrons and on defense its lebron with the edge...I've never seen two players with the same skill set on the same team.
Bosh is gonna be pivotal im lookin for him to come alive this series... we just beat a tom thibs style defense in boston this is no different... overload the strong side d.. bosh can really open things up with his midrange shot.. rose is gonna get bottled up and chi's role players will get exposed against a real d
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Ofcourse NIK would say Durant is better than Bron, as Durant is less of a threat to Kobe. But really, this year at least, Wade, Bron and Wade are all better than Kobe.
If, as NIK was saying, these lakers were actually shut players, I'm sure Kobe woulda went for 30 Ppg in the playoffs. Instead, he scored much less, and couldn't even crack 20 in the last two.
As for wade and Bron, they are scary close
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LOL@your coke sniffing ass bringing up those players, it is beyond funny. When did Boozer leave? How old was James back then? Who else was on the team? LOL.
Ben Wallace, are you on methadon? That nigga was a straight up corpse on the Cavs. "All-Star Ilgauskas" LOL. You're a faggot for real, always using major double standards. That's like saying Howard played with All-Star Arenas. By the way, what was Kobe doing, getting swept in the 2nd round with All-Star Gasol, All-Star Artest, 6th Man of the Year Odom and the 2nd best center in the league? Durant a true leader? You mean the guy that can barely get a clutch shot because a player who is not on the same level as he is is taking most of them? The guy that would rather calmly talk with wet eyes to the assistant coach before he would scream at Westbrook? :D
fact of the matter is, Cleveland was not much worse than the current Thunder, and that's a fact...like I said, they had one of the best defensive units in the league. you're just all up on LeBron's nuts, and it's quite obvious. many people rank durant and lebron on the same level, and either one has been placed over the other on numerous occasions...so for u to act like it's absurd is the only absurd reality.
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Is the Kobe groupie sayin Lebron isnt clutch? When statistically its already been proven that he is actually more clutch than Kobe. lol. Taking more shots doesnt make you more clutch, it just makes you a bigger ball hog. Shooting a higher percentage DOES however make you more clutch. Once again, its been proven that Carmelo, Gasol, Duncan, LEBRON, etc....all more CLUTCH than Kobe
do u really think lebron has been more clutch throughout his career than kobe? really? lmao
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Ofcourse NIK would say Durant is better than Bron, as Durant is less of a threat to Kobe. But really, this year at least, Wade, Bron and Wade are all better than Kobe.
If, as NIK was saying, these lakers were actually shut players, I'm sure Kobe woulda went for 30 Ppg in the playoffs. Instead, he scored much less, and couldn't even crack 20 in the last two.
As for wade and Bron, they are scary close
I really dont know what ur tryin to say, but Kobe>Wade...ask 1st team nba...if that doesn't help, just check with 1st team all-defense. and that's in a down year for kobe, where he was playin half handicapped...regardless, kobe scoring 30+ was not winning games for the Lakers this year, cuz we burnt out and Gasol was the worst big in all of the playoffs...most of your points are moot.
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^you always flunk shit how it comes in handy for you. when experts or whoever decides something is not the way you say it is, you say they are retarded and that using them as a reference to back anything up is retarded. when the same people somehow sort of agree with you, you're the first fag who uses them as reference to back your shit up. haven't your parents never called you out on such blatantly opportunistic behaviour?
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^you always flunk shit how it comes in handy for you. when experts or whoever decides something is not the way you say it is, you say they are retarded and that using them as a reference to back anything up is retarded. when the same people somehow sort of agree with you, you're the first fag who uses them as reference to back your shit up. haven't your parents never called you out on such blatantly opportunistic behaviour?
NO doubt 7even; when the media was hating on Kobe, they didn't know shit. Now that he is getting accolades despite his play having slipped, it ain't like that though.
And NIK, if you didn't get my point, let me spell it out for you: you belittle Bron cuz you know he's the closest to Kobe, and big up players like Melo and Durant cuz you know they aren't touching Kobe. You been doing this, it ain't nothing new.
Also, let me get this straight NIK...Kobe scored 30 plus but it didn't work, so he decided to score 17 two straight in the most important games of the year, and thought that would improve things?!?
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Is the Kobe groupie sayin Lebron isnt clutch? When statistically its already been proven that he is actually more clutch than Kobe. lol. Taking more shots doesnt make you more clutch, it just makes you a bigger ball hog. Shooting a higher percentage DOES however make you more clutch. Once again, its been proven that Carmelo, Gasol, Duncan, LEBRON, etc....all more CLUTCH than Kobe
do u really think lebron has been more clutch throughout his career than kobe? really? lmao
Are you talkin about black and white statistics....or what youve seen on Sportscenter? Kobe just takes MORE game winning shots, but his percentage is lower. I dont know if thats what you consider clutch. If it is, then so be it. I give Kobe credit for being willing to take the last shot. What I dont give him credit for is being the best clutch player, when its proven that others have performed much better in the clutch moments of games than him. Not to mention, being clutch doesnt always mean being the guy to take the last shot. It means making the best, and smartest decisions during the clutch. Constant fade away three pointers with defenders in your face, isnt exactly always the best decision.
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what an ugly-ass game 1
why wegotta wait til fuckin Wednesday for game 2? god damn Oprah
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^you always flunk shit how it comes in handy for you. when experts or whoever decides something is not the way you say it is, you say they are retarded and that using them as a reference to back anything up is retarded. when the same people somehow sort of agree with you, you're the first fag who uses them as reference to back your shit up. haven't your parents never called you out on such blatantly opportunistic behaviour?
*7even mode*
waahhhhh :'( quit making it personal :'( :'( ....
*7even mode off*
honestly, i'm just sayin what i truly believe...just so happens that the 30 coaches who have to design plays against oppositions agree with me. it's usually the media who i make fun of...mvp awards etc. all-nba teams are picked by coaches who actually know the game...and even if kobe DIDNT make 1st team, i would still say he was the best in the nba, cuz thats what i think, so suck it.
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^you always flunk shit how it comes in handy for you. when experts or whoever decides something is not the way you say it is, you say they are retarded and that using them as a reference to back anything up is retarded. when the same people somehow sort of agree with you, you're the first fag who uses them as reference to back your shit up. haven't your parents never called you out on such blatantly opportunistic behaviour?
NO doubt 7even; when the media was hating on Kobe, they didn't know shit. Now that he is getting accolades despite his play having slipped, it ain't like that though.
And NIK, if you didn't get my point, let me spell it out for you: you belittle Bron cuz you know he's the closest to Kobe, and big up players like Melo and Durant cuz you know they aren't touching Kobe. You been doing this, it ain't nothing new.
Also, let me get this straight NIK...Kobe scored 30 plus but it didn't work, so he decided to score 17 two straight in the most important games of the year, and thought that would improve things?!?
wtf are u talkin about...durant is gunna break all of lebrons records. ur conspiracies are null and void.
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Durant will score more than Lebron, but Bron will scre more than Kobe. What is your point NIK?
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Durant will score more than Lebron, but Bron will scre more than Kobe. What is your point NIK?
my point is that durant is way more of a threat to kobe's legacy, hence making your theory inacurrate...are u really this slow?
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lol fuck queen lebron, douche wade and christina bosh i bet they cried last night like the last time they lost to chicago
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Yeah right, I'm sure Durant is gonna get more triple doubles and assists than LeBron, TOTALLY!
So far, LeBron also clearly beats him in scoring:
LeBron: 20.9, 27.2, 31.4, 27.3, 30.0
Durant: 20.3, 25.3, 30.1, 27.7 ? ?
LOL@NIK trying to disprove teecee's theory while instead just proving just the same theory
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Yeah right, I'm sure Durant is gonna get more triple doubles and assists than LeBron, TOTALLY!
So far, LeBron also clearly beats him in scoring:
LeBron: 20.9, 27.2, 31.4, 27.3, 30.0
Durant: 20.3, 25.3, 30.1, 27.7 ? ?
LOL@NIK trying to disprove teecee's theory while instead just proving just the same theory
who was the scoring champ of the last 2 years?.....thats right. durant will break all of lebron's scoring records, mark it.
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If tomorrow the conversation started, "Kevin Durant will go down as hands down the best player ever", NIK would flip a shit & hate on K.D. every chance he got lol.
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NIK will hate anyone who rivals Kobe
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NIK will hate anyone who rivals Kobe
NIK is not a fan of the sport, he just cleans the jockstrap of his favorite player
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NIK will hate anyone who rivals Kobe
NIK is not a fan of the sport, he just cleans the jockstrap of his favorite player
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precisely
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NIK will hate anyone who rivals Kobe
NIK is not a fan of the sport, he just cleans the jockstrap of his favorite player
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precisely
and thinks hes the only laker fan and for some odd reason thinks he is always right, like a dumb blonde bitch whos bout to have her sweet sixteen
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Yeah right, I'm sure Durant is gonna get more triple doubles and assists than LeBron, TOTALLY!
So far, LeBron also clearly beats him in scoring:
LeBron: 20.9, 27.2, 31.4, 27.3, 30.0
Durant: 20.3, 25.3, 30.1, 27.7 ? ?
LOL@NIK trying to disprove teecee's theory while instead just proving just the same theory
who was the scoring champ of the last 2 years?.....thats right. durant will break all of lebron's scoring records, mark it.
Um, what scoring records does Lebron have? Sure, he puts up mad points, and will likely be top 3 when all is said and done, but the greatness of his game is that he is all-around, puts up boards, and assists as well. Durant ain't gonna touch him there; Durant is a great scorer but that is about it. I'd think NIK would question Durants defense, but I guess not. Durant is young, will likely improve, but with that brittle body he ain't lasting for 15 years.
No doubt 7even, this NIK character is straight comedy. Yes, Durant is leading the league in scoring two yrs str8, but it isn't taking an astronomical number to do so. And really, since when was it all about points? I guess if you're dealing with someone on Kobe's buts this hard, its gonna be...
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^no matter what i say, u'd call me a "character"...when u get ur head out ur fuckin ass and realize there is absolutely nothing "character"-worthy of picking Durant over LeBron, then i will take u seriously again. until then, shut ur dumbass mouth...please.
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i see miami coming back and winning today
and lmao @ thinking Durant is better than Lebron
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looks like I got home just in time before tipoff
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lol@the number of offensive boards the bulls got so far. insanity. still, they suck at jump-shooting. they shot exceptionally well last game for their standards. won't happen tonight.
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if the Bulls beat the Heat I sadly see them winning the finals
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damn, that nigga haslem back in full effect. didn't see that comin, LOL
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damn, that nigga haslem back in full effect. didn't see that comin, LOL
Exactly what this Heat team needs. He's gonna have to play big from here on out for them to have a chance.
Fuck, the Heat offense is terrible though...its like the Cavs offense of last year but even worse to watch. Luckily Bron and Wade can go off at any given moment; still, I find it hard to believe a team with such a lack of depth could actually win it all.
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^^^^ You can't have 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA plus a top 25 player AND depth... it wouldn't be fair ... the pb in this series is that both teams can play great D while both offense aren't sharp so it makes the respective offense looks even uglier than usual ... Bulls offense = 29 pts in the 2nd half , 2 points in the last 7 min of the game :puke:... Rose is definetely looking more and more like Iverson , he needs lots of shots to get his points and Boozer is just terrible in this postseason offensive wise
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I been sayin this all year
Rose is just another Allen Iverson.....not that it's a bad thing but he's never going to win a title without a legit star around him (Not you Carlos Boozer)
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I been sayin this all year
Rose is just another Allen Iverson.....not that it's a bad thing but he's never going to win a title without a legit star around him (Not you Carlos Boozer)
Rose has a lot more character IMO, and more ups. He missed Alot of Lay ups last night though; I think hes a great player but he shoots a low percentage due to high degree of difficulty on his shots; too often it's him against tall trees down low and he just Isnt big enough to finish consistently
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^nigga just has no great jumper, that's why he's forced to do that type of shit
anyways, bulls got viagra for bullets, act like they are anxious to bust... but they ain't gangsta enough. miami in 6.
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AI>Rose
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agreed
AI was a fucking monster.....imagine how much better he would've been if he took the regular season seriously and actually practiced with team mates haha
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He produced more with a less arsonal of moves than Rose has. Animal.
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He produced more with a less arsonal of moves than Rose has. Animal.
Rose plays at a time when the East has legit powerhouses, unlike 2000
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He produced more with a less arsonal of moves than Rose has. Animal.
Rose plays at a time when the East has legit powerhouses, unlike 2000
lol, c'mon. The Celtics are old & the Heat aren't even a finished product.
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He produced more with a less arsonal of moves than Rose has. Animal.
Rose plays at a time when the East has legit powerhouses, unlike 2000
lol, c'mon. The Celtics are old & the Heat aren't even a finished product.
and what do you call the 2000 and 2001 Nets teams? those squads would get waxed by this years Celtics or Heat
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AI couldn't even make it in Turkey and the 2001 Sixers would stand no chance against the Heat or Celtics.
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& he couldn't handle the Lakers then either in '01; true powerhouse. I don't see the point. Iverson had Aaron McKie & Eric Snow. Could be worse than LeBron in Cleveland.
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& he couldn't handle the Lakers then either in '01; true powerhouse. I don't see the point. Iverson had Aaron McKie & Eric Snow. Could be worse than LeBron in Cleveland.
No team in the history of the NBA could have easily handled the 01 Lakers when they meant business. Shaq was in videogame mode back then.
As for Iverson, he also had Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby and didn't do shit when he was in Denver, while actually making the Pistons and Grizzlies worse.
The 2001 Sixers also had Dikembe Mutombo who was a real ass nigga back then, much better than McKie or Snow.
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^On defense.
As for Denver, not only was A.I. past prime, but his style of play is "give me the ball & I'll do things with them". He didn't have that with Melo on the floor with him. Similar to Rose, in my opinion. Rose just has more pieces around him & even his team as a whole isn't all that great.
Also, Rose is 10-12 years younger than the A.I. we're talking about in Turkey or anything post 76er.
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AI was a beast in his heyday. He could get that Philly team to win off sheer willpower. He wanted it more than his opponents and his teammates most of the time. That was a gift and later a curse in his career but you could not help but root for the guy. Rose's demeanor is more laid back but if he ever developed a controlled rage, watch out.
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Rose ain't developing no rage
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AI couldn't even make it in Turkey and the 2001 Sixers would stand no chance against the Heat or Celtics.
right...because the AI of today is the same AI of 10 years ago LMAO
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game tonight
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Rose is going to be a better defender than a.I.
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AI couldn't even make it in Turkey and the 2001 Sixers would stand no chance against the Heat or Celtics.
right...because the AI of today is the same AI of 10 years ago LMAO
It's not like he's 40 years old or something. It just shows everything about him, you know, the fact that he can't function unless he is the first option.
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who is having a better playoffs, Lebron or Dirk?
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AI couldn't even make it in Turkey and the 2001 Sixers would stand no chance against the Heat or Celtics.
right...because the AI of today is the same AI of 10 years ago LMAO
It's not like he's 40 years old or something. It just shows everything about him, you know, the fact that he can't function unless he is the first option.
one of iverson's main strengths was his speed...he is not half as fast today as he was in his prime....and first option or not, AI was great in his prime.
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ten mo minutes til game time
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real shit i fucking hate people who are all over miamis nuts and claim to be fans since forever
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real shit i fucking hate people who are all over miamis nuts and claim to be fans since forever
sounds just like Laker and Cowboy fans lol
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who is having a better playoffs, Lebron or Dirk?
after seeing the first quarter of tonight's game i'd give the edge to lebron. he's fantastic on both ends of the court. bogans was so scared of him that he didn't do a lay up right in front of the rim, lol. shooting 3s, going to the rim, spoon-feeding bosh, drawing fouls, altering shots, intercepting passes, bringing the ball up, blocking forwards.. he does everything.
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NIK says Kobe had the best playoffs :laugh:
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Lebron is a monster on defense and is working his ass off. Great game so far
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Bosh on fire. MIA playing well but only up by 4 i think heat will pull it out. Bush making up for 1-17 against Bulls earlier this year
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he sure looks great tonight
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i don't see Miami losing this the way things are going right now
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Nah they got it now. Bron with blk on boozer, then dteal and and 1. Hes been gr8 tonight
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the best part is listening to that snakeoil salesmen Mike North go on 300 radio stations nation wide and downplay this win when if it was his Bulls he'd be all over the Heat
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LeBron was an animal.
Bosh was beyond and animal.
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Lebron is the best defensive sf and its not even close... our defense is so good all the nay sayers during the season are now washing our balls with armorall.. rose is getting bottled up the mvp of the league has been getting smothered.. no air. Even with a monster game from c booz bulls still are lacking a 3rd scorer. Noah was a no show scoring only 1 point straight mailed it in..Bosh was huge looking fwd to tuesday already
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do we still have anyone on here who thinks Wade is better than Lebron? lol
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Rose ain't developing no rage
over rated in game 3 as well
lmao @ having to hear Bull ballwashers on ESPN and Fox (well only Mike North) try to explain what is happening to their team.
gotta give colin Cowherd credit, he called the Bulls losing in the playoffs in March
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do we still have anyone on here who thinks Wade is better than Lebron? lol
yes
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NIK says Kobe had the best playoffs :laugh:
i never said that
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
hey NIK is Tracy McGrady still better than Lebron? lmao
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Bron has been the most consistent Heat player, and also their most clutch. He's done a bit f everything, and right now is better than wade no doubt. Wade looked off last night taking some stupidly difficult shots(ala kobe) and hd handle was brutal. Still, dude will step his game up and play just as big a role as Bron; I'm thinking if the heat win it all though, it'll be Bron as MVP
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LeBron James > Jesus Christ.
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Carlos Boozer had the least impactive 25-17 game ever lmao
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what a great game so far for okc
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
i never said that, u dumb muthafucka...in all seriousness, is anything u ever say legit?
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
i never said that, u dumb muthafucka...in all seriousness, is anything u ever say legit?
are u really gonna make me go back and find it? i will if want me to but i think it's a waste of my time because I already clowned on you for saying it
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
i never said that, u dumb muthafucka...in all seriousness, is anything u ever say legit?
are u really gonna make me go back and find it? i will if want me to but i think it's a waste of my time because I already clowned on you for saying it
100 bux in ur paypal account if u find it, u retarded faggot
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Pretty obvious that Wade is AT THE VERY LEAST as good as LeBron, if not better....
do you really believe the BS that you just spewed here?
Wade will never be Lebron's equal, despite having one more ring
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
i never said that, u dumb muthafucka...in all seriousness, is anything u ever say legit?
are u really gonna make me go back and find it? i will if want me to but i think it's a waste of my time because I already clowned on you for saying it
100 bux in ur paypal account if u find it, u retarded faggot
meanwhile you'll be going thru your old posts ready to edit it out :D
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no but you did say that this years Lakers were the "Best team ever" about 2 months ago
i never said that, u dumb muthafucka...in all seriousness, is anything u ever say legit?
are u really gonna make me go back and find it? i will if want me to but i think it's a waste of my time because I already clowned on you for saying it
100 bux in ur paypal account if u find it, u retarded faggot
meanwhile you'll be going thru your old posts ready to edit it out :D
right...im sure if i ever said that (which i never did), some1 woulda quoted that, and i cant edit quotes. instead of constantly bein a bitch, why dont u just admit ur a lonely faggot from maine who makes dumbass claims on a west coast rap board?
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i'm not the one who waxes his eyebrows and goes to raves and pretends to nail the bitches he takes pictures with
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i'm not the one who waxes his eyebrows and goes to raves and pretends to nail the bitches he takes pictures with
i dont do any of that...but u do, however, jerk it to gay porn. i'd bet my life on it.
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i'm not the one who waxes his eyebrows and goes to raves and pretends to nail the bitches he takes pictures with
i dont do any of that...but u do, however, jerk it to gay porn. i'd bet my life on it.
lmao great response.....give me my hundred bucks now plz
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^for what?
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^for what?
peep my thread
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u should get slapped 100 times for bein so dumb
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backing out on your word eh?
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go Heat
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for people who are heat fans today, were you heat fans last year?
99% will say no or lie
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for people who are heat fans today, were you heat fans last year?
99% will say no or lie
I'm rooting for the Bulls to lose and the Heat to win because when Lebron gets a ring NIK will go crazy trying to denounce it
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Come on man step over into the darkside the heat have the mastermind behind the showtime lakers in the iconic pat riley we have the closest thing to the lakers.. latch on like denzel washington in that train movie we still got room on the wagon
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Bulls got a 5 point lead going into the 4th
gonna be mad interesting
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With Haslem and Miller at 100% and an improvement at center or point guard the Heat could become unfuckable for years to come..
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Bulls just got like 10 seconds to inbound
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WOW rose should not be shooting jumpshots
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offensive foul????
i could see that being an offensive foul in the regular season but this is the playoffs
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^in the last seconds of a game a superstar against a nobody.. that typically never gets called.
lool@rose shooting an airball instead of passing it or whatever. james is shitting on him.
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Wow at the level of discipline lebron is showing on d against rose
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Ok Whois actually better at defense then lbj? Lockig up rose plays passig lanes gets mad blks
Huge lay-up by James
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LeBron is not only the MVP. But hands down, no contest, the best player in the league.
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what a joke....if chicago had a real offence, miami woulda been done
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what a joke....if chicago had a real offence, miami woulda been done
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Like the lakers?
Not sure what the joke is? But i guess thr bulls offense is like CAvs last few yrs too dependent on one player. I admit, gonna be mad Interesting to see Mavs Vs Heat. Both are peaking at the right time, one a very gOod offensive team, one a very good defensive team
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the thought of lebron and wade forcing turnovers and running fast breaks while getting the whistle every time they cut to the basket is giving me nightmares already... mavs have to be in a shooting funk to stand a chance in miami
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the thought of lebron and wade forcing turnovers and running fast breaks while getting the whistle every time they cut to the basket is giving me nightmares already... mavs have to be in a shooting funk to stand a chance in miami
shooting funk is not a good thing, genius
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the thought of lebron and wade forcing turnovers and running fast breaks while getting the whistle every time they cut to the basket is giving me nightmares already... mavs have to be in a shooting funk to stand a chance in miami
shooting funk is not a good thing, genius
it is if you got the right groove: :rock:
nah of course I meant the opposite, whatever that is supposed to be called :laugh:
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the thought of lebron and wade forcing turnovers and running fast breaks while getting the whistle every time they cut to the basket is giving me nightmares already... mavs have to be in a shooting funk to stand a chance in miami
shooting funk is not a good thing, genius
it is if you got the right groove: :rock:
nah of course I meant the opposite, whatever that is supposed to be called :laugh:
how can u be so scared of a team who lost to this offenseless chicago team by 20 points.come on, son.
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^Niggas tight. :D
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the thought of lebron and wade forcing turnovers and running fast breaks while getting the whistle every time they cut to the basket is giving me nightmares already... mavs have to be in a shooting funk to stand a chance in miami
shooting funk is not a good thing, genius
One fucking game. You think Miami has no chance? You remember CHI was top team in league right?
Mavs vs Dallas gonna be a great series. Can't call who'll win; completely opposite teams. Dallas has only played horrible defensive teams so far, while Miami hasn't played a team likes Dallas yet
it is if you got the right groove: :rock:
nah of course I meant the opposite, whatever that is supposed to be called :laugh:
how can u be so scared of a team who lost to this offenseless chicago team by 20 points.come on, son.
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what a joke....if chicago had a real offence, miami woulda been done
LMAO LMAO LMAO
if the Lakers had a real defense maybe they would've won a game against Dallas
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AMAZING
lebron is killing the bulls this 4th quarter
NIK must be crying somewhere with a Farmar jersey as a tissue
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Holy shit. Haters fuck off. Ive never doubted Bron like others, but I didn't think he had this in him. Fuckin amazing
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LMAO @ THE BULLS
Mike North is gonna have a panic attack
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With Haslem and Miller at 100% and an improvement at center or point guard the Heat could become unfuckable for years to come..
just imagine how good they'll be next year when they get a younger PG
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skip bayless on suicide watch.
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skip bayless on suicide watch.
hes made a career on ripping Bron and Dirk
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crazy how Chicago won game 1 and everyone was hoppin on their nuts
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well it is a competition infinite.
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"Micheal Jordan is probably the greatest scorer ever, but LeBron James might be the greatest player to ever play" - Scottie Pippen
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"Micheal Jordan is probably the greatest scorer ever, but LeBron James might be the greatest player to ever play" - Scottie Pippen
amazing quote
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No one was more impressed by what Bron did last night than me, but Scottie Pippen is a fucking loser for saying that.
Jordan had no weakness, period. 6 championships, 6 finals MVP's. He wins stats wise, reputation wise, championship wise, accolade wise.
Bron is a GREAT player whether he ever wins or not, but he isn't Michael Jordan. He is a completely different animal though, a much different player, and maybe the most unique player the NBA has ever seen; there won't be another one like him. Could he end up the greatest? Maybe, but he has A LOT of work to do.
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Pippen is just being honest
Bron is a better passer and rebounder for sure. and he's taller.
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Scotties lost in the moment he just saw lebron take down the nba mvp and his chicago bulls from the front row at courtside every game.. he's marveling at lebrons talent but lebrons overall body of work doesn't compare with magic whom I think he's closer too than jordan.
Great win last night watching the d wade lebron take over in the 4th.. they took over the last game in o.t. too
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Scottie's opinion >>> anyone here's opinion. 8)
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Pippen is just jealous about MJ getting all the credit for the Bulls titles .. but he gave ESPN and the rest of the medias a huge help on selling the Finals to the masses who wouldn't have cared about a Bron-Dirk battle ...
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Scottie's opinion >>> anyone here's opinion. 8)
Scottie sees himself in Lebron
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damn
pippen is still angry phil drew that play up for kukoc instead of him
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Pippen is just jealous about MJ getting all the credit for the Bulls titles .. but he gave ESPN and the rest of the medias a huge help on selling the Finals to the masses who wouldn't have cared about a Bron-Dirk battle ...
Nah, at this point the casual sports fan is very deep into the "Lebron story". The Pippen quote has been more scrutinized amongst the more than casual observer.
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I agree with Javier; mad peeps waiting on finals. Ain't gonna be lakers-celtics numbers but ratings will still be very high.
Also, scottie backing off his statement now...
Lebron on some next shit right now; let him win a few and then the discussion can begin. Thing is, the way people throw around comparisons these days, whether it be Kobe or LBJ to Jordan, it's fucking stupid. I think people actually underrate just how good Jordan was. Once he figured it out, he would not lose, and there was never a doubt.
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I These ppl in the media making shock statements and predictions are only to get ppl talking I sort of reference it to westside187 claming to be a real compton crip and only wore blue condoms.. iI used to buy his ebonics too jk
HHeat vs bulls game 1 broke the all time nba cable ratings and game 4 drew slightly comparable numbers.. people just couldn't get enough of kyle korver
Reflecting on the heats path to the finals they've faced some world class pg's and talk about shutting guys down in rondo and rose.. im not afraid of jj barea if only d fish could yell that.. interesting also to note heat flew his ass down llast summer hoping he would sign off on the contract, glad he still wanted to work for the lakers
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i still dont get how people think lebron is better then MJ or even kobe
kobe - 5 nba titles, a league MVP, 2 finals MVP, #6 in all time scoring (lebron aint even in the top 30), 13 all star apperances and 4 all star MVP to lebrons 2, 6 finals appearances, only missed the playoffs once in his career, 9 all nba team, been on the cover of 6 videos games and has rap songs about him and his team
now what the fuck lebron got on that? why is he "better"??
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Lebron isn't better, he could be. You can't compare them because Lebron still has a long career ahead of him still,compare them when he's finished.
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Lebron isn't better, he could be. You can't compare them because Lebron still has a long career ahead of him still,compare them when he's finished.
exactly so what is the point of people trying to compare the both and trying to decipher who is better??
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I agree with Javier; mad peeps waiting on finals. Ain't gonna be lakers-celtics numbers but ratings will still be very high.
Also, scottie backing off his statement now...
Lebron on some next shit right now; let him win a few and then the discussion can begin. Thing is, the way people throw around comparisons these days, whether it be Kobe or LBJ to Jordan, it's fucking stupid. I think people actually underrate just how good Jordan was. Once he figured it out, he would not lose, and there was never a doubt.
LMFAO@Jordan being UNDERrated. Classic.
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I agree with Javier; mad peeps waiting on finals. Ain't gonna be lakers-celtics numbers but ratings will still be very high.
Also, scottie backing off his statement now...
Lebron on some next shit right now; let him win a few and then the discussion can begin. Thing is, the way people throw around comparisons these days, whether it be Kobe or LBJ to Jordan, it's fucking stupid. I think people actually underrate just how good Jordan was. Once he figured it out, he would not lose, and there was never a doubt.
LMFAO@Jordan being UNDERrated. Classic.
How'd you like game 1 NIK?
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NIK owes me 100 bucks
and Lebron is on his way to getting his first ring...can't wait to hear NIK try to take credit away from him
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I agree with Javier; mad peeps waiting on finals. Ain't gonna be lakers-celtics numbers but ratings will still be very high.
Also, scottie backing off his statement now...
Lebron on some next shit right now; let him win a few and then the discussion can begin. Thing is, the way people throw around comparisons these days, whether it be Kobe or LBJ to Jordan, it's fucking stupid. I think people actually underrate just how good Jordan was. Once he figured it out, he would not lose, and there was never a doubt.
LMFAO@Jordan being UNDERrated. Classic.
How'd you like game 1 NIK?
i liked game2 better
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lol @ the return of NIK. Miami wins game two, NIK pulls the trigger & we never hear from him again.
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lol @ the return of NIK. Miami wins game two, NIK pulls the trigger & we never hear from him again.
LMAO very true
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i predict Miami wins tonight
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called it
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you won't catch Lebron wearing his own jersey at the mall lmao
can't wait for the game tonight.
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you won't catch Lebron wearing his own jersey at the mall lmao
can't wait for the game tonight.
i wouldn't either if i were him
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lmao
watch bron drop like 40 tonight in a Heat route
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lmao
watch bron drop like 40 tonight in a Heat route
did lol
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
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they should be giving bosh more touches especially on nights when lebron obviously doesnt have it going on...
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
Triple-double choke job? Go hang out with Kobe in a mall wearing matching jerseys.
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
Triple-double choke job? Go hang out with Kobe in a mall wearing matching jerseys.
no points in the 4th quarter from your "best player"...umm, yea, thats a chokejob, idiot. lmao.
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
Triple-double choke job? Go hang out with Kobe in a mall wearing matching jerseys.
no points in the 4th quarter from your "best player"...umm, yea, thats a chokejob, idiot. lmao.
Wade took every shot, that he didn't pass to Haslem or Bosh off pick & rolls.
Are you watching the game? LeBron missed like two jumpers.
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
Triple-double choke job? Go hang out with Kobe in a mall wearing matching jerseys.
no points in the 4th quarter from your "best player"...umm, yea, thats a chokejob, idiot. lmao.
Wade took every shot, that he didn't pass to Haslem or Bosh off pick & rolls.
Are you watching the game? LeBron missed like two jumpers.
lmao, he missed 2 jumpers...what the fuck is that? ur a leader of a team, ur supposed to take initiative and make shit happen. THAT is what lebron doesn't have in him....thats why hes a tremendous talent, but not one of the greats. not the best on the planet, let alone on his own team....get off his fuckin nuts already, at least when people say i'm on kobe's nuts, it's cuz he plays for my fuckin team and has been a crucial factor in 5 laker titles...what has lebron done for u, besides make u cum?
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^You're an idiot lmao. When you're being double-teamed the second you cross the half court line & you pass the ball to other teammates that are open, that's good basketball. You wouldn't understand. You need your 6th man to be a snub for the all-star game.
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^You're an idiot lmao. When you're being double-teamed the second you cross the half court line & you pass the ball to other teammates that are open, that's good basketball. You wouldn't understand. You need your 6th man to be a snub for the all-star game.
wtf are u talkin about...do u understand how idiotic u sound when u make excuses for lebron when everyone, including the heat themselves, know that they need him to step it up? do you?? kill urself, u worthless scum.
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^You're an idiot lmao. When you're being double-teamed the second you cross the half court line & you pass the ball to other teammates that are open, that's good basketball. You wouldn't understand. You need your 6th man to be a snub for the all-star game.
wtf are u talkin about...do u understand how idiotic u sound when u make excuses for lebron when everyone, including the heat themselves, know that they need him to step it up? do you?? kill urself, u worthless scum.
LOL. Give it up. LeBron & Wade are giving an interview right now. First question asked, "LeBron, do you need score more in the fourth?". His response, "No, we score more points than we have all series. The offense was more than enough. They just scored more than us & we needed to play better defense".
It's not defending him, it's just watching the game & realizing the situation. Wade off the floor, LeBron went 4-6 shooting. Obviously if you know anything, only one can take control of the ball. Clearly this entire series, Wade has the ball late in the game. Not saying it's Wade's fault. But you can't ask for MORE out of LeBron when Wade is running the show, running pick & rolls with Bosh. Wade is letting the clock tick down, gives it to Bosh, who kicks it out to LeBron with three seconds left on the shot clock, still being double-teamed. Get with it, herb.
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^You're an idiot lmao. When you're being double-teamed the second you cross the half court line & you pass the ball to other teammates that are open, that's good basketball. You wouldn't understand. You need your 6th man to be a snub for the all-star game.
wtf are u talkin about...do u understand how idiotic u sound when u make excuses for lebron when everyone, including the heat themselves, know that they need him to step it up? do you?? kill urself, u worthless scum.
LOL. Give it up. LeBron & Wade are giving an interview right now. First question asked, "LeBron, do you need score more in the fourth?". His response, "No, we score more points than we have all series. The offense was more than enough. They just scored more than us & we needed to play better defense".
It's not defending him, it's just watching the game & realizing the situation. Wade off the floor, LeBron went 4-6 shooting. Obviously if you know anything, only one can take control of the ball. Clearly this entire series, Wade has the ball late in the game. Not saying it's Wade's fault. But you can't ask for MORE out of LeBron when Wade is running the show, running pick & rolls with Bosh. Wade is letting the clock tick down, gives it to Bosh, who kicks it out to LeBron with three seconds left on the shot clock, still being double-teamed. Get with it, herb.
LOL...if lebron really thinks he doesn't need to score more in the 4th, that just goes to show the muthafucka has even less killer instinct than i initially thought. and the fact that u think lebron has been playing good just goes to show what a fucking fruitcake of a person u are.
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^Like I said, can't remember Kobe's last triple-double.
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^Like I said, can't remember Kobe's last triple-double.
kobes last triple double? what does this have to do with the fact that the heat might lose their chance at a championship due to lebrons lack of production in the clutch? really?? explain. i dont give a fuck if he scores 50 points 30 rebounds and 20 assists through three quarters...if the game is close in the 4th and he's failing to produce, the muthafucka choked and folded under pressure...is this really hard for u to understand?
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^Like I said, can't remember Kobe's last triple-double.
kobes last triple double? what does this have to do with the fact that the heat might lose their chance at a championship due to lebrons lack of production in the clutch? really?? explain. i dont give a fuck if he scores 50 points 30 rebounds and 20 assists through three quarters...if the game is close in the 4th and he's failing to produce, the muthafucka choked and folded under pressure...is this really hard for u to understand?
If the offense is running through Wade, what do you want him to do? Trolling ass Jew.
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^Like I said, can't remember Kobe's last triple-double.
kobes last triple double? what does this have to do with the fact that the heat might lose their chance at a championship due to lebrons lack of production in the clutch? really?? explain. i dont give a fuck if he scores 50 points 30 rebounds and 20 assists through three quarters...if the game is close in the 4th and he's failing to produce, the muthafucka choked and folded under pressure...is this really hard for u to understand?
If the offense is running through Wade, what do you want him to do? Trolling ass Jew.
the offense runs through wade because lebron has been playing like a role player down the stretch in these last few games...how dumb can u be? if the best player on any team went scoresless in the 4th quarter for 3 straight Finals games, that is considered a lack of performance, for ANY leader. u cant be this slow. ur literally the only person in the world right now who thinks lebron has been playing his part. lmfao, how does it feel to ride the dick of a player who doesnt even play for ur team?....pretty fucking pathetic.
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lol @ the troll fail. I'm not riding his nuts. Just telling it how it is. He played his part tonight. You're looking for whatever you can to hate on him. Hence you complete vanishing when he was dominating prior to this. You're so Jewish, it's upsetting.
The Mavs shot 60% from three, you know what it's like when the Mavs are lighting it up from the perimeter. The only difference is, the Heat didn't get blown out by 30 lmao.
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He played his part tonight.
0 points in the 4th quarter.....yes, he did play his part. no doubt about it. the part i've been tryna tellin u nutriders about for quite some time now.
"the best player on the planet" doesnt score zero points in 3 straight 4th quarters of very tight games...lebron james does. he played his part and proved to the world once again why he has been known as "lechoke". happens every year.
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This is coming from someone who's a neutral fan of NBA, without any favorite team. There's obviously something going on with Lebron and his play off games. We've seen it happen like 3 years in a row now. Cleveland is killing it in the regular season and than completely fails in the play offs. And exact opposite with Kobe. Lakers usually "suck" (for their standards) in the regular but step it up in the play offs. And it's funny to me how people can't see that Kobe really is indeed a clutch player and that Lebron chokes on the regular. At first I thought, ok, he's still young etc. but now this shit happened 3rd time in a row. I'm not saying Lebron is solely to blame but still... And I think Lebron is an amazing player but there's a difference between a great player and basketball icons... and yeah rings do matter.
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Well Wade is clearly better than the Choosen one in one category : clutchness ... overall Lebron is slighty better but I'd personally take Wade over LBJ because he's unlikely to choke in the playoffs
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and here i am, calling it 5+ years ago.....
Speaking of MVP, wow, is LeBron a choke.
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what a crazy game
Bron did have a triple double but it looked like they wanted to run the offense through Wade all night because Bron was double teamed
in other words, "lebron with another epic choke job, once again showcasing his true colors"
Triple-double choke job? Go hang out with Kobe in a mall wearing matching jerseys.
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NIK also called JOrdan Farmar better than Lebron
smh
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NIK is still fighting that intangibles argument. Clutch lmao. What a Jew.
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LOL...only faggot alive still thinkin LeBron played his part. clutch, lmao. what a moron.
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There's no denying that LeBron is a tremendous athlete and can fill up the stat sheet as well as anyone, but the fact remains, when you're a player of his caliber you have to take more initiative. Yeah he was better last night in the fourth quarter (was dishing assists rather than standing) but he's got to start demanding the ball more. People can blame Wade for doing the ball handing if they want to, but to me, if anything, that shows that he has the killer instinct that LeBron doesn't seem to have yet. The two are obviously good friends, and if the two time MVP wants the ball then he'll get it. Should be interesting to see what happens in the next game.
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There's no denying that LeBron is a tremendous athlete and can fill up the stat sheet as well as anyone, but the fact remains, when you're a player of his caliber you have to take more initiative. Yeah he was better last night in the fourth quarter (was dishing assists rather than standing) but he's got to start demanding the ball more. People can blame Wade for doing the ball handing if they want to, but to me, if anything, that shows that he has the killer instinct that LeBron doesn't seem to have yet. The two are obviously good friends, and if the two time MVP wants the ball then he'll get it. Should be interesting to see what happens in the next game.
they had him double teamed
at that point it was the coaches idea to make Wade the key component because Bron was always covered
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game tmrw night
uppin
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NIK is still fighting that intangibles argument. Clutch lmao. What a Jew.
as if Lebron did nothing to beat my Celtics and then the Bulls. Lebron was the leader both series, you hear nothing from NIK during that period. go figure.
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so there goes this season for the Heat
overall while it was not a success they had a huge stepping stone by beating Boston in the playoffs.
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so there goes this season for the Heat
overall while it was not a success they had a huge stepping stone by beating Boston in the playoffs.
That Perkins trade was god awful.
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Boston sucked post-Perkins...Chicago had no real offense and it was clear. LeBron with yet another easy rode to the Finals. still, 0-2...another failure under "the kings" belt.
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So who believes they will do something drastic in the off-season, like trading Bosh or begging Chris Paul to sign for the MLE and then pay him under the table? Or will they rather stay the same, signing some fags for the minimum and shit? Will LeBron now work his ass off and establish a real post game and a less erratic jump shot, maybe also see really good psychologists to develop a killer instinct? Or will he rather stay the same and spend the off-season hanging out with his enablers?
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- new CBA comes into effect
- bosh+some randoms (miller, bibby?) traded to orlando for dwight
- chris paul signs
miami need a proper PG and someone who can play in the paint without getting bullied
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^If Miami ends up with Dwight and Paul I will cancel my league pass permanently. They would have the best players for each of 4 of 5 positions. Most retarded thing ever. The Heat could just play at the Olympics instead of a real Team USA, lol
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So who believes they will do something drastic in the off-season, like trading Bosh or begging Chris Paul to sign for the MLE and then pay him under the table? Or will they rather stay the same, signing some fags for the minimum and shit? Will LeBron now work his ass off and establish a real post game and a less erratic jump shot, maybe also see really good psychologists to develop a killer instinct? Or will he rather stay the same and spend the off-season hanging out with his enablers?
What can Miami do? All they have is the MLE and Bi-annual exception. They can use it to add depth, but barring a trade of the big 3 (unlikely) I doubt they do anything else. Working out the team's chemistry is the main issue.
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I'm not feeling the Bosh hate. He played really good all playoffs long. I mean Bosh & others for Dwight would be out of this World for that defense. Teams would average under 80 PPG lol.
They don't need any changes, just better play in the Finals. They play like they do in any other series, they literally sweep the Mavs lol.
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Howard isn't going anywhere via trade. He expressed interest in staying in Orlando and as long as they have a chance at resigning him, the Magic will risk free agency next year.
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^When Howard realizes that this team is going nowhere midway through the season, he might pull a Carmelo. The team has no chance, Arenas and Hedo will suck ass and are totally untradable while eating all the cap room with Howard and some random ass nigs on the roster. An MLE type of addition ain't enough for them either. They have 30 mil on 2 horrible, horrible players. Howard gon realize this when Otis Smith won't do shit in the off-season and the team keeps eating dick at the start of the season. Then, hopefully, he will force a trade to the Mavs, to go on a 3-peat with them. I believe he once said that the thing the Heat did was whack. Maybe the thought of fucking them in the ass for years to come is delightful to him. But I also believe he is too much of a nice guy to pull off all of this.
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Boston sucked post-Perkins...Chicago had no real offense and it was clear. LeBron with yet another easy rode to the Finals. still, 0-2...another failure under "the kings" belt.
too bad Lebron couldn't run into a powerhouse team like those 2000 76ers or the 2001 NJ Nets teams
lmao
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Boston sucked post-Perkins...Chicago had no real offense and it was clear. LeBron with yet another easy rode to the Finals. still, 0-2...another failure under "the kings" belt.
too bad Lebron couldn't run into a powerhouse team like those 2000 76ers or the 2001 NJ Nets teams
lmao
everyone knows the west>>>>>the east. so no, those teams werent great, but we still faced great teams in the western conference playoffs...portland and sacramento was like the finals for us. there were no teams like that in the east this year.
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Sacramento? The team the league beat the lakers for?
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Sacramento? The team the league beat for the lakers?
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if anyone actually knows that classic series well enough, they'd know that, IF ANYTHING, some games in the series were reffed in the Lakers favor, but some were also reffed in the Kings favor.....then again, i'm telling this to someone who doesn't even follow basketball, he just follows the Lakers so he can ride my nuts...but look into it.
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if anyone actually knows that classic series well enough, they'd know that, IF ANYTHING, some games in the series were reffed in the Lakers favor, but some were also reffed in the Kings favor.....then again, i'm telling this to someone who doesn't even follow basketball, he just follows the Lakers so he can ride my nuts...but look into it.
I thought it was already well established that the main goal was to make the series go 7 games.
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I thought it was well established that game 6 will go down as the worst officiated game of basketball ever.a game the kings should had won but the lakers were handed the game by the refs. A laker homer such as yourself can spin it however you like but everyone other then laker fans knows as true. As for my personal interest, I followed the league when I was younger until a few years ago when I gave up on the sport for being corrupt and unwatchable.Now, I watch a few games here and there but the leagues been taken over by a bunch of pussy diva players.So I have little to no interest. The league is at an all time low right now as far as the sport that being played.
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Boston sucked post-Perkins...Chicago had no real offense and it was clear. LeBron with yet another easy rode to the Finals. still, 0-2...another failure under "the kings" belt.
Heat made it look easy, but Mavs made it look even easier after first round. Mavs def had just as easy a road, at least besides first round
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Boston sucked post-Perkins...Chicago had no real offense and it was clear. LeBron with yet another easy rode to the Finals. still, 0-2...another failure under "the kings" belt.
Heat made it look easy, but Mavs made it look even easier after first round. Mavs def had just as easy a road, at least besides first round
LOL...what r u talkin about?...The Mavs had to go through the champions. and even though they made it look easy, series coulda easily been 2-1 in the Lakers favor after the first 3 games. Game 1 and 3, Lakers entered the 4th quarter with big leads. Lakers and OKC >>> Boston and Chicago.
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The current lakers should be renamed charmin. Softest team I've ever seen
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funny how NIK busts out his "NBA hates the lakers" arguements when LA loses a big game but the other way around and he'll argue to death
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The current lakers should be renamed charmin. Softest team I've ever seen
back-to-back champions and 3 years straight in the finals=softest team uv ever seen....cuz u dont watch basketball, u base ur opinions off of dickriding. not good for a male being.
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
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The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
BINGO
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
soft teams dont beat the Boston Celtics in the Finals...not even Jordan faced a defense like that in Finals. One of the great defensive teams of this generation, no way we take them out if were soft.
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
soft teams dont beat the Boston Celtics in the Finals...not even Jordan faced a defense like that in Finals. One of the great defensive teams of this generation, no way we take them out if were soft.
nice to see you showing respect to the Celtics :D
McGrady called the 07-08 Celtics the best defense he'd ever seen and dude's seen tons of them
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
soft teams dont beat the Boston Celtics in the Finals...not even Jordan faced a defense like that in Finals. One of the great defensive teams of this generation, no way we take them out if were soft.
nice to see you showing respect to the Celtics :D
McGrady called the 07-08 Celtics the best defense he'd ever seen and dude's seen tons of them
That was a great defensive team. HOwever, this year, according to NIK, they were shit. COuld have something to do with who beat them, right?
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
soft teams dont beat the Boston Celtics in the Finals...not even Jordan faced a defense like that in Finals. One of the great defensive teams of this generation, no way we take them out if were soft.
nice to see you showing respect to the Celtics :D
McGrady called the 07-08 Celtics the best defense he'd ever seen and dude's seen tons of them
That was a great defensive team. HOwever, this year, according to NIK, they were shit. COuld have something to do with who beat them, right?
exactly
Miami fucking raped up every part of this playoffs except for game 3 and the first half of game 4..
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Lol as if being soft as anything to do with that. The lakers are stacked from a talent standpoint. Doesn't make them any less soft
soft teams dont beat the Boston Celtics in the Finals...not even Jordan faced a defense like that in Finals. One of the great defensive teams of this generation, no way we take them out if were soft.
nice to see you showing respect to the Celtics :D
McGrady called the 07-08 Celtics the best defense he'd ever seen and dude's seen tons of them
That was a great defensive team. HOwever, this year, according to NIK, they were shit. COuld have something to do with who beat them, right?
everyone knows boston lost their edge once they traded perkins...
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
dirk
lebron
d-wade
durant
rose (the media's new darling)
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dont forget rondo
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
You were the one who said Bron had multiple all-stars in Cleveland, because Ilgauskas and Ben Wallace were on the team, even though they were past their prime.
What Jaydc should have said is "Everyone knows kobe needs to be surrounded by the most talented frontline in the league to win a championship"
whatever the case, none of these stars win on their own, and never have, especially those 80's teams like the Celtics and Lakers...incredibly talented teams with so much depth
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Teecee gets it. I was doing my impression of elior discussing basketball.If Kobe was on that Cleveland team they'd struggleto even make the playoffs let alone make a finals appearance. Kobes a selfish player,he doesn't make anyone better. He's just an amazing shooter. He needs dominant big men to succeed. He hasnt won without one.Everyone can accept that except elior because Kobe is his god.
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
dirk
lebron
d-wade
durant
rose (the media's new darling)
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Dirk
4. Wade
5. You can make a strong case for Dwight, Durant or Rose
Yes, despite choking in the Finals, I still consider LeBron the best player simply because of his talent and physical strength. His problems are all mental and after 8 years in the league he still doesn't get it. Kobe's on the down side of his career and barring a bench that will allow him to rest more, he'll continue to slide from fatigue/old age. Dirk winning a title in amazing fashion bumps him up into the top 5, but doesn't automatically put him at #1. He does however, leapfrog Wade who didn't really do anything wrong to deserve being bumped down one spot. I like Dwight at #5 since he's carrying the Magic, but that can/has easily change because of playoff performances by Durant and Rose. They already accomplished a lot are clearly rising stars in the NBA.
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dont forget rondo
true
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
You were the one who said Bron had multiple all-stars in Cleveland, because Ilgauskas and Ben Wallace were on the team, even though they were past their prime.
What Jaydc should have said is "Everyone knows kobe needs to be surrounded by the most talented frontline in the league to win a championship"
whatever the case, none of these stars win on their own, and never have, especially those 80's teams like the Celtics and Lakers...incredibly talented teams with so much depth
are u fucking serious? sometimes u try to come off as a knowledgeable analyst, but the shit u say doesn't work ... Pau Gasol as a second option is not something amazing to have ...it's not like Kobe's playing with Pippen or Kareem or a superstar along those lines. It's Pau fucking Gasol. the guy averaged 12 points in our last playoff run. Disgraceful for any1 to discredit Kobe because of who he played with and then turn around and try to act like their opinion is valid...i mean, it's expected from gaydc, cuz the dude is obviously trolling, but ur opinion on basketball is becoming just as disgraceful as any troll who ever posted here. You're right, no star wins on their own, but Kobe has done it with less than Bird...less than Magic....less than Jordan... admit it already.
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Teecee gets it. I was doing my impression of elior discussing basketball.If Kobe was on that Cleveland team they'd struggleto even make the playoffs let alone make a finals appearance. Kobes a selfish player,he doesn't make anyone better. He's just an amazing shooter. He needs dominant big men to succeed. He hasnt won without one.Everyone can accept that except elior because Kobe is his god.
yea...Pau Gasol is a dominant big man. Kobe doesnt raise the level of play of his teammates. He's "just" an amazing shooter.....and you're a good poster with lots of intelligence.
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
dirk
lebron
d-wade
durant
rose (the media's new darling)
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Dirk
4. Wade
5. You can make a strong case for Dwight, Durant or Rose
Yes, despite choking in the Finals, I still consider LeBron the best player simply because of his talent and physical strength. His problems are all mental and after 8 years in the league he still doesn't get it. Kobe's on the down side of his career and barring a bench that will allow him to rest more, he'll continue to slide from fatigue/old age. Dirk winning a title in amazing fashion bumps him up into the top 5, but doesn't automatically put him at #1. He does however, leapfrog Wade who didn't really do anything wrong to deserve being bumped down one spot. I like Dwight at #5 since he's carrying the Magic, but that can/has easily change because of playoff performances by Durant and Rose. They already accomplished a lot are clearly rising stars in the NBA.
LMAO@Putting LeBron above Kobe after he already proved what type of player he is in pressure situations...classic. I expect it from cham and 7even...but really? u still dont get that the guy doesn't have what it takes to bring his game to the next level? awful. i used to respect u as a poster. dirk is better than lebron. durant is better. wade is better...u dont get it yet?
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Your the biggest troll here elior. Nobody takes your basketball " knowledge" serious because you have kobes dick so far down your throat
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Your the biggest troll here elior. Nobody takes your basketball " knowledge" serious because you have kobes dick so far down your throat
no...they take ur opinion more serious. because everyone knows gasol is a dominant big man and kobe is nothing but an amazing shooter.
kill urself u dumb faggot
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
dirk
lebron
d-wade
durant
rose (the media's new darling)
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Dirk
4. Wade
5. You can make a strong case for Dwight, Durant or Rose
Yes, despite choking in the Finals, I still consider LeBron the best player simply because of his talent and physical strength. His problems are all mental and after 8 years in the league he still doesn't get it. Kobe's on the down side of his career and barring a bench that will allow him to rest more, he'll continue to slide from fatigue/old age. Dirk winning a title in amazing fashion bumps him up into the top 5, but doesn't automatically put him at #1. He does however, leapfrog Wade who didn't really do anything wrong to deserve being bumped down one spot. I like Dwight at #5 since he's carrying the Magic, but that can/has easily change because of playoff performances by Durant and Rose. They already accomplished a lot are clearly rising stars in the NBA.
LMAO@Putting LeBron above Kobe after he already proved what type of player he is in pressure situations...classic. I expect it from cham and 7even...but really? u still dont get that the guy doesn't have what it takes to bring his game to the next level? awful. i used to respect u as a poster. dirk is better than lebron. durant is better. wade is better...u dont get it yet?
This is not an career assessment, it's a assessment for this year. LeBron outplayed Kobe in both the regular and postseason. Aside from the Finals, LeBron had a phenomenal postseason while Kobe underperformed. Kobe needs to stay healthy if he wants to be #1.
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So what exactly does Kobe do to make his teammates better? Lots of assists? Nope. Lots of rebounds?Nope. Great leadership? Nope
Does he take lots of difficult, selfish shots instead of finding an open teammate? Yep
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So what exactly does Kobe do to make his teammates better? Lots of assists? Nope. Lots of rebounds?Nope. Great leadership? Nope
Does he take lots of difficult, selfish shots instead of finding an open teammate? Yep
yea...Kobe is a horrible leader. only horrible leaders lead their team to 3 straight Finals appearances and back-to-back championships...he's just a great shooter, no more, no less.
honestly, do u think i'm really tryna debate with ur ass in basketball? ur obviously dumb as a fucking brick when it comes to analyzing the sport...i'm just gunna keep makin fun of u and ur meaningless posts, so quit while u still can.
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So what exactly does Kobe do to make his teammates better? Lots of assists? Nope. Lots of rebounds?Nope. Great leadership? Nope
Does he take lots of difficult, selfish shots instead of finding an open teammate? Yep
He led his team in assissts for 13 years, he's a great rebounder for a guard and every former and current team mate will tell you he's a leader.
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NIK, I told you, your opinion is irrelevant.
1. You're outrageously biased.
2. You fight arguments that cannot be proved, like "heart", "leadership", "looks", etc.
3. Your responses to people who you have no response to are "you're an idiot, you really know nothing".
Enyce & Radiotube combined are more credible posters.
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It's mind numbing arguing Jaydc's hate for Kobe and NIK's homerism for Kobe at the same time in the same thread. :eh:
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Dont be so upset that Kobe ain't in the top five in the league anymore
LOL. That's a good one.
dirk
lebron
d-wade
durant
rose (the media's new darling)
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Dirk
4. Wade
5. You can make a strong case for Dwight, Durant or Rose
Yes, despite choking in the Finals, I still consider LeBron the best player simply because of his talent and physical strength. His problems are all mental and after 8 years in the league he still doesn't get it. Kobe's on the down side of his career and barring a bench that will allow him to rest more, he'll continue to slide from fatigue/old age. Dirk winning a title in amazing fashion bumps him up into the top 5, but doesn't automatically put him at #1. He does however, leapfrog Wade who didn't really do anything wrong to deserve being bumped down one spot. I like Dwight at #5 since he's carrying the Magic, but that can/has easily change because of playoff performances by Durant and Rose. They already accomplished a lot are clearly rising stars in the NBA.
LMAO@Putting LeBron above Kobe after he already proved what type of player he is in pressure situations...classic. I expect it from cham and 7even...but really? u still dont get that the guy doesn't have what it takes to bring his game to the next level? awful. i used to respect u as a poster. dirk is better than lebron. durant is better. wade is better...u dont get it yet?
This is not an career assessment, it's a assessment for this year. LeBron outplayed Kobe in both the regular and postseason. Aside from the Finals, LeBron had a phenomenal postseason while Kobe underperformed. Kobe needs to stay healthy if he wants to be #1.
do u understand that if Kobe were on the Heat this year, they wouldn't have lost to the Mavs? ur opinion of LeBron is wayyy too high after he already cemented his status as a dude who can't lead a team to success....i mean, that was already the label on him before the series vs. the Mavs. now that it happened AGAIN, and ur still placing him at number 1, I'm shocked....even a BSPN poll that was taken after the Finals had Kobe voted as the number 1 player in the world. come on, son.
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It's mind numbing arguing Jaydc's hate for Kobe and NIK's homerism for Kobe at the same time in the same thread. :eh:
LOL...cocksucker, a bspn poll had kobe ranked number 1 amongst the whole league. u are no longer a Laker fan, understand? u call me a homer for supporting kobe with facts...man up and pay more attention to detail when it comes to analyzing basketball, and get back 2 me.
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2. You fight arguments that cannot be proved, like "heart", "leadership", "looks", etc.
only a muthafucka without heart would say this....ur obviously a gutless faggot, so why even bother living?
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It's mind numbing arguing Jaydc's hate for Kobe and NIK's homerism for Kobe at the same time in the same thread. :eh:
LOL...cocksucker, a bspn poll had kobe ranked number 1 amongst the whole league. u are no longer a Laker fan, understand? u call me a homer for supporting kobe with facts...man up and pay more attention to detail when it comes to analyzing basketball, and get back 2 me.
Of course people are going to say that right after the finals. That's the problem with popular votes. They are too easily swayed because of recent events. Find a poll right before next season starts and I garuntee the results will be different.
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LOL, this guy just said "I only fight with facts". The only fact you've ever posted is that Kobe has more rings than LeBron. Other than that it's all your opinion, which you expect us to treat like gold.
2. You fight arguments that cannot be proved, like "heart", "leadership", "looks", etc.
only a muthafucka without heart would say this....ur obviously a gutless faggot, so why even bother living?
No only a muthafucka with a brain would realize you cannot physically prove who has more heart. It's an intangible. Your eyes, with those Laker goggles on, ESPECIALLY cannot prove that. Only a moron would think he could...so I guess case in point.
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Not a shot. LeBron tarnished his popularity. He will never win one of those open votes again. Larry Bird straight up said, "he's got a good chance to go down as better than all of us" & Barkley called him the best player on the planet, as did Mark Jackson & Jeff Van Gundy. These Hall of Famers & professionally paid analysts giving expert insight & NIK thinks he knows better because he sleeps with a Lakers blanket at night. Give me a break.
& also, NIK calls is "BSPN" & then uses it for his argument. He needs to just kill himself.
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LOL, this guy just said "I only fight with facts". The only fact you've ever posted is that Kobe has more rings than LeBron. Other than that it's all your opinion, which you expect us to treat like gold.
2. You fight arguments that cannot be proved, like "heart", "leadership", "looks", etc.
only a muthafucka without heart would say this....ur obviously a gutless faggot, so why even bother living?
No only a muthafucka with a brain would realize you cannot physically prove who has more heart. It's an intangible. Your eyes, with those Laker goggles on, ESPECIALLY cannot prove that. Only a moron would think he could...so I guess case in point.
LeBron in the 4th quarter of the finals was 7-21 FG=no heart
Finals crunch time stats (last 5 minutes of games with the scoring margin within 5 points) for Lebron: 0 points, 0-7 from the field, 0 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 turnover=no heart
Playing hot potato with the ball in the 4th quarter of game 5=no heart
Basically saying his life was great during the post game interview after losing the finals=no heart
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Kobe shot like 25% last year in the Finals = no heart.
What a stupid argument. You guys act like Kobe averages 40 PPG in the Finals. He plays his usual ass game, which is amazing. That's not heart. That's just playing your game.
Same how Kobe is "clutch", yet shoots 44% before it's "clutch-time" & then 40% in the clutch lol.
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Kobe shot like 25% last year in the Finals = no heart.
What a stupid argument. You guys act like Kobe averages 40 PPG in the Finals. He plays his usual ass game, which is amazing. That's not heart. That's just playing your game.
Same how Kobe is "clutch", yet shoots 44% before it's "clutch-time" & then 40% in the clutch lol.
It's fiun to make up stats, isn't it? Kobe shot 40.5% in the 2010 finals, not 25% and played a lot better than LeBron in the 4th quarter. Then again, everyone did.
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I meant Game 7 of the Finals, where he shot exactly 25%. Biggest game of the series. Arguably the biggest game of his career considering he didn't have Shaq doing all the work, & since according to the most knowledgeable NBA man on the planet, NIK, Pau blows, Odom is a waste of space, Bynum (Wilt Jr.) is trash, Artest is just a liability & Fisher can't be trusted, you would think Kobe would need to be at his complete best to win & he shot worse than LeBron lol.
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Everyone knows shaq and the refs won those championships. Kobe was along for the ride.
And hey what a shocker! Pau plays like shit and the lakers get eliminated. I wonder if that's a coincidence?
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^Funny considering Kobe played like shit in the Finals last year & they still managed to win.
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Kobe shot like 25% last year in the Finals = no heart.
What a stupid argument. You guys act like Kobe averages 40 PPG in the Finals. He plays his usual ass game, which is amazing. That's not heart. That's just playing your game.
Same how Kobe is "clutch", yet shoots 44% before it's "clutch-time" & then 40% in the clutch lol.
Kobe led that team to a championship against one of the tougher defenses of this generation...he also collected more rebounds than Jordan ever did in a Finals game in the process off of pure will to win=heart. how do u even have the balls to compare that to LeBron being the reason the Heat DIDN'T win a championship? oh, that's right, u don't have balls...cuz ur a gutless coward and a bitch, just like ur idol. and u also dont know shit about basketball on top of all that. pathetic.
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I meant Game 7 of the Finals, where he shot exactly 25%. Biggest game of the series. Arguably the biggest game of his career considering he didn't have Shaq doing all the work, & since according to the most knowledgeable NBA man on the planet, NIK, Pau blows, Odom is a waste of space, Bynum (Wilt Jr.) is trash, Artest is just a liability & Fisher can't be trusted, you would think Kobe would need to be at his complete best to win & he shot worse than LeBron lol.
right...cuz Kobe didn't dominate that game on the glass with 15 rebounds...rof@u having the audacity to compare that to lechoke's disappearing act in any sort of way. do u realize ur idol being relegated to role player status is the sole reason Miami didn't win it all? sad waste of life, u dont deserve to watch basketball.
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Everyone knows shaq and the refs won those championships. Kobe was along for the ride.
And hey what a shocker! Pau plays like shit and the lakers get eliminated. I wonder if that's a coincidence?
again, ur analysis on basketball is meaningless, u self-admittedly stopped following the sport a while ago...u know ur just in this thread because ur following me around the board lmao. yet another dumb comment..."kobe was along for the ride". do u realize how dumb this makes u look when Kobe's stats throughout those playoff runs were on par with Shaq's? Kobe was not to Shaq what Pau is to Kobe...Kobe-Shaq are considered by many the greatest 1-2 punch to ever play basketball...it's amazing how u talk so much shit on a player just because u cant get enough of my nuts. sad stuff.
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I meant Game 7 of the Finals, where he shot exactly 25%. Biggest game of the series. Arguably the biggest game of his career considering he didn't have Shaq doing all the work, & since according to the most knowledgeable NBA man on the planet, NIK, Pau blows, Odom is a waste of space, Bynum (Wilt Jr.) is trash, Artest is just a liability & Fisher can't be trusted, you would think Kobe would need to be at his complete best to win & he shot worse than LeBron lol.
Fair enough, but Kobe did grab 15 rebounds and made some key places towards the end. LeBron did absoluetly nothing in the 4th quarter for 4 straight games.
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Yes, because your opinion is without bias right elior?
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Yes, because your opinion is without bias right elior?
there's a difference between being bias and not knowing the game...unfortunately, for u, both apply. ur bias, because u diss kobe just to get an extra chance at riding my nuts, and u don't know the game because u don't follow it...and even if u did, i still don't think ur smart enough to understand it ala cham. do u think anyone ever reads ur posts and says "this guy knows what hes talking about"...there are no traces of knowledge in anything u say, dumbfuck, bias or not.
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Lol even other laker fans label you a homer and having extreme bias. Most think your an embarrassment to other laker fans.
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Lol even other laker fans label you a homer and having extreme bias. Most think your an embarrassment to other laker fans.
some laker fans call me bias towards my team, yes...but they all acknowledge my knowledge of the sport. what do u have goin for u? u lack in every aspect when it comes to analyzing basketball. slap urself for postin in here.
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Elior you still living with your parents?
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NIK, I didn't compare it to LeBron, but LeBron didn't show up & Wade didn't "Pau Gasol" for him & win him a ring. Good though, I'd rather LeBron win it, because I'm not a Heat fan. I don't care if they win lol..
I believe it was game three Wade only had three in the fourth & game six Wade was less relevant than LeBron. Wade did his thing for the most part in the series, but if he dominated, he easily could of won it himself.
I mean, you said Wade is hands down better than LeBron & the second best player in the league. I would think regardless of what LeBron did, Wade & Bosh should have been able to win. Am I wrong? Give me some bullshit excuse lol.
& who acknowledges your knowledge? Ali The Great, your best friend? Random Laker fans like that Stone Cold guy? I've never seen somebody who wasn't a Laker fan call you knowledgeable. You just tell yourself you are because you're generic argument is that anybody who disagrees doesn't know anything. Think about it, the only topic you even discuss in the sport is the Lakers & Kobe & you're CLEARLY a biased fuck, so it's all just irrelevant. I follow all three major sports closely, so if I make a mistake or two talking about a wide variety of topics among three sports, then I can take credit for being wrong. You talk about one single topic, in one sport & you're biased about it. I don't see how you tout yourself as "knowledgeable".
You draft a decent fantasy team & brag like it's proof you know what you're talking about LMFAO.
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NIK, I didn't compare it to LeBron, but LeBron didn't show up & Wade didn't "Pau Gasol" for him & win him a ring. Good though, I'd rather LeBron win it, because I'm not a Heat fan. I don't care if they win lol..
I believe it was game three Wade only had three in the fourth & game six Wade was less relevant than LeBron. Wade did his thing for the most part in the series, but if he dominated, he easily could of won it himself.
I mean, you said Wade is hands down better than LeBron & the second best player in the league. I would think regardless of what LeBron did, Wade & Bosh should have been able to win. Am I wrong? Give me some bullshit excuse lol.
& who acknowledges your knowledge? Ali The Great, your best friend? Random Laker fans like that Stone Cold guy? I've never seen somebody who wasn't a Laker fan call you knowledgeable. You just tell yourself you are because you're generic argument is that anybody who disagrees doesn't know anything. Think about it, the only topic you even discuss in the sport is the Lakers & Kobe & you're CLEARLY a biased fuck, so it's all just irrelevant. I follow all three major sports closely, so if I make a mistake or two talking about a wide variety of topics among three sports, then I can take credit for being wrong. You talk about one single topic, in one sport & you're biased about it. I don't see how you tout yourself as "knowledgeable".
You draft a decent fantasy team & brag like it's proof you know what you're talking about LMFAO.
LOL...so Kobe didn't show up in the Finals last year, despite averaging 29 points a game and breaking Jordan's Finals rebounding record in the closing game? Pau Gasol won the title? Damn...funny, cuz I remember that Kobe won MVP in that series, do I not remember correctly? I also remember that Wade was the expected winner of the MVP if Miami won the Finals this year...so pathetic of u to not man up and admit LeBron is not on Kobe's level and never will be. At least admit that as of NOW, Kobe shits on LeBron in terms of who had the greater career. If the NBA ended today, who do u think people will say was better 20 years from now? U think people will look back and say "Kobe was good, but there was no one like LeBron!" LMFAO. that's equivalent to people nowadays saying "Jordan was good, but there was no one like Dominique!"....do u not understand this? i think u are the only person alive still stickin for LeBron, even above Heat fans...he must've done something for u, like help u cum a whole lot, because the muthafucka doesnt even play on ur team and u defend his weaknesses like you raised him...get help muthafucka.
as for fantasy, everyone here will tell u, i win that shit basically every year, because i know way more about the sport, and it's pretty obvious. i grew up watching and playing basketball. u, obviously, didn't.
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See, now you've run out of an argument so you're putting words in my mouth; desperation. As far as careers go, CLEARLY Kobe, so far. LeBron is undoubtedly the better player today though. He's been for the last three years. If I said any other player besides Jordan & LeBron were better than Kobe, you'd RUN to lay out stats. I have two players that have better stats & you run to "stats don't mean shit". You've been saying for years how "BSPN" is a bunch of biased (LOL, the irony) idiots, paid to support LeBron, then use a poll of theirs to fight your argument. Then expect people to take you seriously.
Careers? Kobe > LeBron. Today? LeBron > Kobe. Just move on.
Funny how you use rebounds too. Because I remember when LeBron outshined Kobe at the Garden you said, exact words, "LeBron was stealing rebounds to get a triple-double". Yet Kobe gets more rebounds than he's gotten since he was in his mid-20's & that's just "heart", not just trying to make up for the fact he was playing like ass in one of the most important games of his career. You're so hypocritical.
& stop being an idiot. You REALLY think even if Kobe averaged 18 PPG they wouldn't give him Finals MVP? If a player like LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Dwight, Rose, etc. ever win a ring, it's a LOCK their getting MVP.
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Elior you still living with your parents?
haha until the sky turns green
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See, now you've run out of an argument so you're putting words in my mouth; desperation. As far as careers go, CLEARLY Kobe, so far. LeBron is undoubtedly the better player today though. He's been for the last three years. If I said any other player besides Jordan & LeBron were better than Kobe, you'd RUN to lay out stats. I have two players that have better stats & you run to "stats don't mean shit". You've been saying for years how "BSPN" is a bunch of biased (LOL, the irony) idiots, paid to support LeBron, then use a poll of theirs to fight your argument. Then expect people to take you seriously.
Careers? Kobe > LeBron. Today? LeBron > Kobe. Just move on.
Funny how you use rebounds too. Because I remember when LeBron outshined Kobe at the Garden you said, exact words, "LeBron was stealing rebounds to get a triple-double". Yet Kobe gets more rebounds than he's gotten since he was in his mid-20's & that's just "heart", not just trying to make up for the fact he was playing like ass in one of the most important games of his career. You're so hypocritical.
& stop being an idiot. You REALLY think even if Kobe averaged 18 PPG they wouldn't give him Finals MVP? If a player like LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Dwight, Rose, etc. ever win a ring, it's a LOCK their getting MVP.
Kobe would never disappear in the clutch the way LeBron did....end of story. Grabbing 15 rebounds is grabbing 15 rebounds, no matter what way u try n chop it up. Rebounding was the most important factor in that series and Kobe led both teams in it...regardless, with or without the rebounds, Kobe has never had an epic collapse throughout a series like LeBron did. it's simply not in him. And lmao@u not realizing that Wade was first in line to get MVP for the Heat if they won. smh.
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Well, the only way the Heat were going to win is if the best player on the planet played like himself. Therefore if he played his averages (22, 7 & 7 - playoff averages) in games six & seven, I think they would of given it to him, unless Wade played some spectacular six & seven outdoing LeBron.
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Well, the only way the Heat were going to win is if the best player on the planet played like himself. Therefore if he played his averages (22, 7 & 7 - playoff averages) in games six & seven, I think they would of given it to him, unless Wade played some spectacular six & seven outdoing LeBron.s
there is no "if"...the way it stands, wade was the mvp for the heat in that series...even throughout the playoffs, wade averaged more points n shot better percentages. no way kobe would defer to wade if they were on the same team, lmao, hence kobe being, obviously, better than lebron, who made himself famous for deferring. lebron is only more physically gifted than kobe...thats where it ends.
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
You were the one who said Bron had multiple all-stars in Cleveland, because Ilgauskas and Ben Wallace were on the team, even though they were past their prime.
What Jaydc should have said is "Everyone knows kobe needs to be surrounded by the most talented frontline in the league to win a championship"
whatever the case, none of these stars win on their own, and never have, especially those 80's teams like the Celtics and Lakers...incredibly talented teams with so much depth
are u fucking serious? sometimes u try to come off as a knowledgeable analyst, but the shit u say doesn't work ... Pau Gasol as a second option is not something amazing to have ...it's not like Kobe's playing with Pippen or Kareem or a superstar along those lines. It's Pau fucking Gasol. the guy averaged 12 points in our last playoff run. Disgraceful for any1 to discredit Kobe because of who he played with and then turn around and try to act like their opinion is valid...i mean, it's expected from gaydc, cuz the dude is obviously trolling, but ur opinion on basketball is becoming just as disgraceful as any troll who ever posted here. You're right, no star wins on their own, but Kobe has done it with less than Bird...less than Magic....less than Jordan... admit it already.
And what team has a more talented frontcourt than Gasol, Bynum, and ODom?
Anyway, NIK, you have no right to say anyone's opinion is disgraceful. Did Gasol play well against the Mavs? No he was shit. But did Kobe play well? Nah, and I do think Kobe has heart unlike other people on here, I do question why, the player with more heart than anyone in he league wasn't going balls out to try to stave off elimination in games three and four...
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^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
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Yes, he would have dropped 65 by selfishly taking 90 percent of throws just to make his point total look great because without pau playing well he's got nothing
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See, now you've run out of an argument so you're putting words in my mouth; desperation. As far as careers go, CLEARLY Kobe, so far. LeBron is undoubtedly the better player today though. He's been for the last three years. If I said any other player besides Jordan & LeBron were better than Kobe, you'd RUN to lay out stats. I have two players that have better stats & you run to "stats don't mean shit". You've been saying for years how "BSPN" is a bunch of biased (LOL, the irony) idiots, paid to support LeBron, then use a poll of theirs to fight your argument. Then expect people to take you seriously.
Careers? Kobe > LeBron. Today? LeBron > Kobe. Just move on.
Funny how you use rebounds too. Because I remember when LeBron outshined Kobe at the Garden you said, exact words, "LeBron was stealing rebounds to get a triple-double". Yet Kobe gets more rebounds than he's gotten since he was in his mid-20's & that's just "heart", not just trying to make up for the fact he was playing like ass in one of the most important games of his career. You're so hypocritical.
& stop being an idiot. You REALLY think even if Kobe averaged 18 PPG they wouldn't give him Finals MVP? If a player like LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Dwight, Rose, etc. ever win a ring, it's a LOCK their getting MVP.
Kobe would never disappear in the clutch the way LeBron did....end of story. Grabbing 15 rebounds is grabbing 15 rebounds, no matter what way u try n chop it up. Rebounding was the most important factor in that series and Kobe led both teams in it...regardless, with or without the rebounds, Kobe has never had an epic collapse throughout a series like LeBron did. it's simply not in him. And lmao@u not realizing that Wade was first in line to get MVP for the Heat if they won. smh.
game 6 2008 nba finals....where was Kobe?
kobe disapeared the whole series against the Pistons minus that game 2 comeback in the 4th q
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^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
OR, he woulda went out like he did in Game 7 against PHX that one year...or did that not happen?
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still waiting for an answer about 2008 game 6 or the pistons series years earlier
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both of those games, lakers collapsed as a team, and it's well documented...not the same as lebron being the sole reason miami didnt win. not even close. and even if it was kobe who let his team down and not the other way around (which isn't the case, but lets say it was), both game 7 vs phoenix and game 4 vs dallas are examples of only 1 game each...lebron let his team down for a whole series. he was literally nowhere to be found in the 4th quarter of any of those games, and they were all close games, not blowouts like the lame examples yall are providing. for fucks sake, he averaged 17 points over the course of the series. u really need to come to terms with dude still having a ways to go before he's compared to the all-time greats.
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Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
You were the one who said Bron had multiple all-stars in Cleveland, because Ilgauskas and Ben Wallace were on the team, even though they were past their prime.
What Jaydc should have said is "Everyone knows kobe needs to be surrounded by the most talented frontline in the league to win a championship"
whatever the case, none of these stars win on their own, and never have, especially those 80's teams like the Celtics and Lakers...incredibly talented teams with so much depth
are u fucking serious? sometimes u try to come off as a knowledgeable analyst, but the shit u say doesn't work ... Pau Gasol as a second option is not something amazing to have ...it's not like Kobe's playing with Pippen or Kareem or a superstar along those lines. It's Pau fucking Gasol. the guy averaged 12 points in our last playoff run. Disgraceful for any1 to discredit Kobe because of who he played with and then turn around and try to act like their opinion is valid...i mean, it's expected from gaydc, cuz the dude is obviously trolling, but ur opinion on basketball is becoming just as disgraceful as any troll who ever posted here. You're right, no star wins on their own, but Kobe has done it with less than Bird...less than Magic....less than Jordan... admit it already.
And what team has a more talented frontcourt than Gasol, Bynum, and ODom?
Anyway, NIK, you have no right to say anyone's opinion is disgraceful. Did Gasol play well against the Mavs? No he was shit. But did Kobe play well? Nah, and I do think Kobe has heart unlike other people on here, I do question why, the player with more heart than anyone in he league wasn't going balls out to try to stave off elimination in games three and four...
ummm, kobe was 6-8 at halftime in game 4 vs dallas, genius. lakers were still down by 20, and he was literally the only player playing... after it was evident that no one was gunna help kobe, he pretty much sat out the whole 4th quarter of that game. to compare that to how lebron let the heat down in the 4th quarter of close games and averaged 17 points over the course of a series IN HIS PHYSICAL PRIME is disgraceful, and u know it...too bad he didnt have an "elbow injury" to blame this time lmao.
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^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
not really...kobe can still score, it's pretty obvious to those watching from the inside that if he gets the expected help from his teammates, like jordan got with the bulls or like magic got with the lakers, then he wins. if his teammates suck ass, he cannot win a game 1-on-5...it happened in his physical prime when he played phoenix in 2006, his teammates sucked ass, and he kept trying to get them going, but they just weren't there. Kobe has played more games than Jordan, but when Jordan was Kobe's age, he still had 3 titles ahead of him...scary.
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^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
not really...kobe can still score, it's pretty obvious to those watching from the inside that if he gets the expected help from his teammates, like jordan got with the bulls or like magic got with the lakers, then he wins. if his teammates suck ass, he cannot win a game 1-on-5...it happened in his physical prime when he played phoenix in 2006, his teammates sucked ass, and he kept trying to get them going, but they just weren't there. Kobe has played more games than Jordan, but when Jordan was Kobe's age, he still had 3 titles ahead of him...scary.
honestly i think his ankle ailed him more than it was said, that was a very very nasty ankle roll at dallas before the season ended and he tweaked it again in the hornets series.
ur not going to be 100% especially with lift, feet movement, and get too aggressive u might tweak it again while playing d or when ur trying to penetrate the paint.
i just rolled/tweaked an ankle that a rolled 4 months earlier and goddamn that shit hurt i had to sit down for a min, it seemed cool enough to play so i played though it and now that i got home this shit is hurting like a mutha fucka.
ringless lebronze for damn sure aint playing if he rolled his ankle like that. remember the elbow? lmao
brandon jennings kept it real when he called out lebron for that elbow and acknowledged that most players wouldnt even play with all those injuries (in the year we beat the celtics in the finals)
i saw teh game and i saw that hit, shit was a tap ridiculous that elbow was a phantom injury, scapegoat
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so Kobe was part of a Lakers collapse as a team and it's not his fault?
NIK you try to tell us Kobe was the leader of the Shaq-Kobe laker teams, so that is a black eye on his leadership getting their asses kicked by Detroit
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so Kobe was part of a Lakers collapse as a team and it's not his fault?
NIK you try to tell us Kobe was the leader of the Shaq-Kobe laker teams, so that is a black eye on his leadership getting their asses kicked by Detroit
correct...kobe showed up, his teammates didnt. the exact opposite of lebron in this years finals.
i never said kobe was the leader of the threepeat era, he was the co-leader. the reason we lost to detroit is because malone got injured and we were forced to play without a power forward.
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first off Detroit would've killed you with or without old ass Malone and you know that.
what is Malone gonna do to help against the faster, more athletic Piston team?
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first off Detroit would've killed you with or without old ass Malone and you know that.
what is Malone gonna do to help against the faster, more athletic Piston team?
dunno if u realized, but malone was a beast for us in the playoffs that year...he shut down tim duncan and kevin garnett in the previous rounds, and was on a mission...when he went down, we had to start slava medvedenko at pf...lmao@acting like that wasn't a huge factor in us losing. smh.
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KG scored 16, 24, 22, 28, 30 and 22
his rebounds were 10, 11, 11, 13, 19 and 17
shut down? lmao you know this is false.
30 points and 19 boards and u say he was shut down? haha
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KG scored 16, 24, 22, 28, 30 and 22
his rebounds were 10, 11, 11, 13, 19 and 17
shut down? lmao you know this is false.
30 points and 19 boards and u say he was shut down? haha
apparently, u didnt watch the series. not surprising....kevin was forced to take tough shots and his percentage dipped from 50% on the season to 44% against Malone. do ur research, son.
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So a 6 percent drop in shooting percentage is shutting someone down? LMAO.
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So a 6 percent drop in shooting percentage is shutting someone down? LMAO.
ummm, yea...lmao. do u even watch basketball? oh, yea, thats right...u dont. rof smh.
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So someone averaging a double-double is being shut down? Again, LMAO
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So someone averaging a double-double is being shut down? Again, LMAO
yes, idiot...when the best player on your team, a big man, is relegated to shooting 44% because he's forced into bad shots, that is considered contained. 44% is atrocious for a power forward. again, do u watch basketball? no. did u watch the series? no. so why is ur dumbass commenting??
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You don't need to be an expert to know he wasn't shut down. Shutting down a player in any sport is the same thing. That's like saying sone pitcher shut down a hitter because the hitter went 2 for 5 with three rbis and a home run, or a cb shutting down a receiver but the receiver scored a td and gained 80 yards, or a defenseman shut down a forward who scored three points.
If someone averaged a double-double they weren't shut down. Only a moron would argue that, and here you are.
Learn a new phrase, you don't understand the term shut down.
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You don't need to be an expert to know he wasn't shut down. Shutting down a player in any sport is the same thing. That's like saying sone pitcher shut down a hitter because the hitter went 2 for 5 with three rbis and a home run, or a cb shutting down a receiver but the receiver scored a td and gained 80 yards, or a defenseman shut down a forward who scored three points.
If someone averaged a double-double they weren't shut down. Only a moron would argue that, and here you are.
Learn a new phrase, you don't understand the term shut down.
Garnett was the MVP that year...for him to shoot 44% was not only a shut-down, but the epitome of getting shut-down. who cares how many rebounds he got, he had a difficulty scoring with efficiency, as he did up until that point, and thats why the wolves lost. do ur research and quit bringin up baseball because u dont watch basketball lmao.
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Yeah, Revis shuts down NFL WR's. Held to under 50 yards. Roy Halladay shuts down MLB offenses down, not allowing them to score a run, even occasionally without a hit. Someone playing slightly worse than average, doesn't qualify for being "shut down".
& LMFAOLOLHAHAHAHA, this nigga said, "who cares how many rebounds he got?", when last year in Game 7, when Kobe got ACTUALLY shut down, shooting 25%, you just said, "b-b-b-but, look at all those rebounds he got!". Fucking hypocritical, kid.
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You don't need to be an expert to know he wasn't shut down. Shutting down a player in any sport is the same thing. That's like saying sone pitcher shut down a hitter because the hitter went 2 for 5 with three rbis and a home run, or a cb shutting down a receiver but the receiver scored a td and gained 80 yards, or a defenseman shut down a forward who scored three points.
If someone averaged a double-double they weren't shut down. Only a moron would argue that, and here you are.
Learn a new phrase, you don't understand the term shut down.
Garnett was the MVP that year...for him to shoot 44% was not only a shut-down, but the epitome of getting shut-down. who cares how many rebounds he got, he had a difficulty scoring with efficiency, as he did up until that point, and thats why the wolves lost. do ur research and quit bringin up baseball because u dont watch basketball lmao.
Oh, so rebounds don't matter when you shoot a poor percentage? ;) Cuz, um, remember game 7 when...ah, nevermind, its too easy sometimes
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You don't need to be an expert to know he wasn't shut down. Shutting down a player in any sport is the same thing. That's like saying sone pitcher shut down a hitter because the hitter went 2 for 5 with three rbis and a home run, or a cb shutting down a receiver but the receiver scored a td and gained 80 yards, or a defenseman shut down a forward who scored three points.
If someone averaged a double-double they weren't shut down. Only a moron would argue that, and here you are.
Learn a new phrase, you don't understand the term shut down.
Garnett was the MVP that year...for him to shoot 44% was not only a shut-down, but the epitome of getting shut-down. who cares how many rebounds he got, he had a difficulty scoring with efficiency, as he did up until that point, and thats why the wolves lost. do ur research and quit bringin up baseball because u dont watch basketball lmao.
Oh, so rebounds don't matter when you shoot a poor percentage? ;) Cuz, um, remember game 7 when...ah, nevermind, its too easy sometimes
Lakers won, Wolves lost. There's ur difference....come on, son, u know u aint jaydc steez, so dont say dumbass shit like that.
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Yeah, Revis shuts down NFL WR's. Held to under 50 yards. Roy Halladay shuts down MLB offenses down, not allowing them to score a run, even occasionally without a hit. Someone playing slightly worse than average, doesn't qualify for being "shut down".
& LMFAOLOLHAHAHAHA, this nigga said, "who cares how many rebounds he got?", when last year in Game 7, when Kobe got ACTUALLY shut down, shooting 25%, you just said, "b-b-b-but, look at all those rebounds he got!". Fucking hypocritical, kid.
dumballitary, did the wolves win when garnett was held to 44% while barely reaching his season average? did the lakers lose when kobe had a bad shooting night, but overcompensated in other areas? did u watch the lakers-wolves series in '04? the answer to all of these is no.
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LOL @ "compensated in other areas". You mean when Pau dragged Kobe to another ring on some Shaq shit in Game 7?
EDIT: Basically what you're telling me there is, if Kobe averaged 25% shooting & 15+ rebounds, they would never lose. It was Kobe who won that ring & not the Lakers...LOL.
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hahahahahahaha way to own cham
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LOL @ "compensated in other areas". You mean when Pau dragged Kobe to another ring on some Shaq shit in Game 7?
EDIT: Basically what you're telling me there is, if Kobe averaged 25% shooting & 15+ rebounds, they would never lose. It was Kobe who won that ring & not the Lakers...LOL.
Again...Kobe=won championship, overcompensated in other areas, got Finals MVP. Garnett=lost, percentages dipped, didn't overcompensate anywhere, and got eliminated. only a retard like urself wouldnt see this. understandable from hack, cuz he's a garnett fan, and gaydc, because he doesnt watch basketball. but u are just the epitome of an idiot.
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
Shaq won those first3 titles, Kobe was just his upgraded Penny Hardaway thanks to Phil Hackson
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
Garnett got shut down cuz they lost. had they won, it would not be considered getting shut down. since he didn't play up to par AND they lost, those are the exact two aspects that go into getting shut down...the fact that ur too dumb to get this is mind-boggling. and the fact that ur tryna make it sound as if pau is anywhere near kobe's caliber as a player also goes 2 show how much u cant get enuff cock in ur mouth. latrell sprewell, sam cassell...yes, idiot, i know u didnt watch basketball at that tme, but they were all-stars just like gasol, and minnesota actually had a really good team that year. fact of the matter is, Gasol saved Kobe just as much as John Paxson saved Jordan. Kobe was the driver of that team, put up the best stats, AND was hands down Finals MVP...and anyone who tries acting otherwise is scum in the minds of true basketball heads aka u.
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
Shaq won those first3 titles, Kobe was just his upgraded Penny Hardaway thanks to Phil Hackson
and shaq to kobe was an upgraded andrew bynum....lmao. only difference, kobe won rings with bynum, but shaq never won a ring with penny.
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LMAO Bynum didn't score 30 points a game and grab 15 boards in the playoffs, get outta here with that nonsense.
Penny on the other hand, not many players saw the floor like him
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
Garnett got shut down cuz they lost. had they won, it would not be considered getting shut down. since he didn't play up to par AND they lost, those are the exact two aspects that go into getting shut down...the fact that ur too dumb to get this is mind-boggling. and the fact that ur tryna make it sound as if pau is anywhere near kobe's caliber as a player also goes 2 show how much u cant get enuff cock in ur mouth. latrell sprewell, sam cassell...yes, idiot, i know u didnt watch basketball at that tme, but they were all-stars just like gasol, and minnesota actually had a really good team that year. fact of the matter is, Gasol saved Kobe just as much as John Paxson saved Jordan. Kobe was the driver of that team, put up the best stats, AND was hands down Finals MVP...and anyone who tries acting otherwise is scum in the minds of true basketball heads aka u.
Oh, stats don't mean anything anymore? LMFAO, this nigga. I'm not denying Kobe was the best player there, but stats show Pau is was more efficient & efficiency is what wins ball games. & please Sprewell scored 17 & 3 & Cassell wasn't taking over games, he was just a strong point guard.
& enough making yourself look stupid. You once said to me, "I don't respond to you because the shit you say is stupid. If you said something smart, I'd answer". Now you answer everytime. Only proving more you're the biggest hypocrite on the planet lol.
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Look at this stupid Jew. No wonder Hitler tried to get rid of you all.
You're not even talking about Garnett getting "shut down" anymore. Kobe got brought up & you ran to his defense. This nigga is a joke.
Also you dumb fuck, speaking on that Kobe series, he only won because Pau saved him.
Just another example of Kobe having a dominate team outside of himself & winning. Jordan had Pippen, but Pippen never won anything for him. He just played his game, never had to "step up" to save MJ. KG in '04? Who was going to save him? Latrell Sprewell? Sam Cassell? LOL. C'mon bro, go to sleep.
And since you apparently love statistics these days, take a look at these; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2010.html <--- Scroll down to the "advanced stats" (right up your alley, you mathematician, you). Win Shares: Pau Gasol - 11.0; Kobe Bryant - 9.4.
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: Pau Gasol - .220; Kobe Bryant - .160. I think it's clear who was winning games. ;)
Garnett got shut down cuz they lost. had they won, it would not be considered getting shut down. since he didn't play up to par AND they lost, those are the exact two aspects that go into getting shut down...the fact that ur too dumb to get this is mind-boggling. and the fact that ur tryna make it sound as if pau is anywhere near kobe's caliber as a player also goes 2 show how much u cant get enuff cock in ur mouth. latrell sprewell, sam cassell...yes, idiot, i know u didnt watch basketball at that tme, but they were all-stars just like gasol, and minnesota actually had a really good team that year. fact of the matter is, Gasol saved Kobe just as much as John Paxson saved Jordan. Kobe was the driver of that team, put up the best stats, AND was hands down Finals MVP...and anyone who tries acting otherwise is scum in the minds of true basketball heads aka u.
Oh, stats don't mean anything anymore? LMFAO, this nigga. I'm not denying Kobe was the best player there, but stats show Pau is was more efficient & efficiency is what wins ball games. & please Sprewell scored 17 & 3 & Cassell wasn't taking over games, he was just a strong point guard.
& enough making yourself look stupid. You once said to me, "I don't respond to you because the shit you say is stupid. If you said something smart, I'd answer". Now you answer everytime. Only proving more you're the biggest hypocrite on the planet lol.
yes...big men are more efficient than guards. we get that. that still has absolutely nothing to do with my original point. but i do find it interesting that stats show pau as being more efficient than hakeem was, no doubt about it. and pau is not on another caliber in comparison to sprewell and cassell lmao. they were all all-stars on the same level...but neither of em, in their prime, fell off like pau did this year. as for me not replying to ur trolling...that's a great point. ur so damn dumb that i really shouldnt reply to u. it's just very tempting. i'm the type of guy who sees people sayin dumb shit, and ill tell them to shut the fuck up...thats me. most people just pass by and think to themselves "what a retard"...that's most the readers who read ur posts.
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LMAO Bynum didn't score 30 points a game and grab 15 boards in the playoffs, get outta here with that nonsense.
Penny on the other hand, not many players saw the floor like him
lmao...penny is just as far away from bein kobe as bynum is from being shaq, if not farther. smh.
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
i aint no child, respect ur elders, young'n...n u a troll PLUS dumb, dumbfuck.
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
i aint no child, respect ur elders, young'n...n u a troll PLUS dumb, dumbfuck.
You ain't no man, sonny boy. Still sucking on mom's titties to support your ass. Get real.
& no, stupid. If I'm trolling & you know it, you know that I'm saying shit to get under your skin. If I'm dumb, it means I'm not trolling & I'm being 100% serious.
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
i aint no child, respect ur elders, young'n...n u a troll PLUS dumb, dumbfuck.
You ain't no man, sonny boy. Still sucking on mom's titties to support your ass. Get real.
& no, stupid. If I'm trolling & you know it, you know that I'm saying shit to get under your skin. If I'm dumb, it means I'm not trolling & I'm being 100% serious.
u are a dumb troll...the fact that u are too dumb to realize this makes u even dumber.
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its all about the mav's, jason terrys a beast mark cuban is a rich and a cool owner, i just bought my jersey dont hate
congratz to the mav's they deserved to win.. the dog days of summer, no NBA/NFL.. having d wade and lebron alley oop withdrawels, just watched that mia vs lakers game in march. im hopin players go overseas to europe and create some super teams for like half the season since they only play 16 games out there and give us somethin to chew on. beside the nba season is too fkn long as it is like baseball
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its all about the mav's, jason terrys a beast mark cuban is a rich and a cool owner, i just bought my jersey dont hate
congratz to the mav's they deserved to win.. the dog days of summer, no NBA/NFL.. having d wade and lebron alley oop withdrawels, just watched that mia vs lakers game in march. im hopin players go overseas to europe and create some super teams for like half the season since they only play 16 games out there and give us somethin to chew on. beside the nba season is too fkn long as it is like baseball
lmfao@a heat fan buyin a mavs jersey....good shit, fuck miami
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
lmao
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This child just said I'm trolling and dumb in the same sentence. Pick one.
lmao
are u really laughin ur ass off at that? hack, u might be just as sad as bieber...
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Anyone who goes against NIK is "sad".
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Anyone who goes against NIK is "sad".
nobody as sad as u, though. real
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Anyone who goes against NIK is "sad".
nobody as sad as u, though. real
Yeah, I just look like a teen pop sensation that everyone wants. I'm the saddest fuck on the planet.
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Anyone who goes against NIK is "sad".
nobody as sad as u, though. real
Yeah, I just look like a teen pop sensation that everyone wants. I'm the saddest fuck on the planet.
lmao
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its all about the mav's, jason terrys a beast mark cuban is a rich and a cool owner, i just bought my jersey dont hate
congratz to the mav's they deserved to win.. the dog days of summer, no NBA/NFL.. having d wade and lebron alley oop withdrawels, just watched that mia vs lakers game in march. im hopin players go overseas to europe and create some super teams for like half the season since they only play 16 games out there and give us somethin to chew on. beside the nba season is too fkn long as it is like baseball
Damn dude, I hate on any team that beats mine, not that I don't respect them as a better team, but I would never buy the jersey of a team that knocked mine out in the finals.
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wonder when Wade is coming back?
I'm sure they'll win at least 1 or 2 rings, but why do GM's think that getting two face up forwards (nyc) and getting basically 3 ball dominant face up players n which both of the perimeter players arnt natural shooters (no spot ups).
i mean why, i truly don't understand that. melo and howard, howard and cp3, deron and howard, stout and cp3, stout and deron, wade and howard, lebron and howard. those are much better combos.
imo, stout needs to balance his scoring style more, he needs to have more low post game since anthonys running the perimeter, not just standing around the elbow hoping to shoot the ball.
and i still haven't seen any significant improvement on james's post game nor his shooting. dude is gonna be nothing once he hits his 30s.
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LeBron is a God.
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wonder when Wade is coming back?
I'm sure they'll win at least 1 or 2 rings, but why do GM's think that getting two face up forwards (nyc) and getting basically 3 ball dominant face up players n which both of the perimeter players arnt natural shooters (no spot ups).
i mean why, i truly don't understand that. melo and howard, howard and cp3, deron and howard, stout and cp3, stout and deron, wade and howard, lebron and howard. those are much better combos.
imo, stout needs to balance his scoring style more, he needs to have more low post game since anthonys running the perimeter, not just standing around the elbow hoping to shoot the ball.
and i still haven't seen any significant improvement on james's post game nor his shooting. dude is gonna be nothing once he hits his 30s.
LOONEY, WHATS UP MY HOMIE
nm brah, dont recognize your name though who r ya?
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wonder when Wade is coming back?
I'm sure they'll win at least 1 or 2 rings, but why do GM's think that getting two face up forwards (nyc) and getting basically 3 ball dominant face up players n which both of the perimeter players arnt natural shooters (no spot ups).
i mean why, i truly don't understand that. melo and howard, howard and cp3, deron and howard, stout and cp3, stout and deron, wade and howard, lebron and howard. those are much better combos.
imo, stout needs to balance his scoring style more, he needs to have more low post game since anthonys running the perimeter, not just standing around the elbow hoping to shoot the ball.
and i still haven't seen any significant improvement on james's post game nor his shooting. dude is gonna be nothing once he hits his 30s.
LOONEY, WHATS UP MY HOMIE
good 2 see u back hack,
+1
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hey NIK do u think the LAkers have a shot at ever beating Miami during this LEbron/Wade run?
0-3 so far.
regular season...who knows. miami/lebron approach those games like game 7 of the nba finals, so they typically have the upper hand in those regular season battles. if they make the finals with lebron as their leader, it's hard to imagine them beating us, unless lebron turns into a completely different person (aka not a choke-artist who can't lead a team)
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hey NIK do u think the LAkers have a shot at ever beating Miami during this LEbron/Wade run?
0-3 so far.
regular season...who knows. miami/lebron approach those games like game 7 of the nba finals, so they typically have the upper hand in those regular season battles. if they make the finals with lebron as their leader, it's hard to imagine them beating us, unless lebron turns into a completely different person (aka not a choke-artist who can't lead a team)
you can't be confident in your teams current structure, can you? you traded Odom for nothing so it's basically an older version of last years team.....if you trade for Howard you have to give up Bynum plus another good player which may neutralize the impact of Howard depending on who the MAgic can land.
plus that nigga Kobe gettin old, hes putting in work now because he knows hes on my fantasy team but he had a few bad games this year
our bench is deeper this year, especially when blake gets back...i dont mind losing odom, cuz bynum is getting his touches, and this will pay off big time. we also have much nicer rookies than we've had in a while...especially in goudelock - kid is a knock down shooter.
PG Derek Fisher...Steve Blake/Andrew Goudelock
SG Kobe Bryant...Jason Kapono/Darius Morris
SF Matt Barnes...World Peace/Devin Ebanks/Luke Walton
PF Pau Gasol...Josh McRoberts/Derrick Caracter
C Andrew Bynum...Troy Murphy
beastin
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oh and not to mention D-Fish sucks ass too. Lakers would get WAXED if they went up against OKC in the playoffs, especially on back to back nights lol
LOL...right. cuz Gasol + Bynum wouldnt own Perkins + Ibaka in the post. get the fuck outta here.
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plus that nigga Kobe gettin old, hes putting in work now because he knows hes on my fantasy team but he had a few bad games this year
LOL...the fantasy league u were scared to have me in, cuz I shit on you ever year.
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plus that nigga Kobe gettin old, hes putting in work now because he knows hes on my fantasy team but he had a few bad games this year
LOL...the fantasy league u were scared to have me in, cuz I shit on you ever year.
actually i had 3 people ask me not to invite you because....TO QUOTE ONE EXACTLY "im tired of that dude offering wackass 2 for 1s"
no lie :)
BTW - man your lakers are old as fuck and u cant admit it? enjoy another sweep in the playoffs with that roster lol
what a lame excuse...as if it's a mission to click the "reject" button on a trade.
so basically, all ur real life buddies were scared to face me? lmfao. really, though, how can u play in a league and not invite back the champion? smh...now, regardless of who wins , there will be an asterisk by it, cuz u pussies never took out the title holder. slap yaself for bein scared of my fantasy skills, my dude.
and like i said, we have nice, young players to go with the old ones....Bynum is fuckin 24 years old. shits amazin.
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lol @ saying the Heat play like its game seven when Kobe is playing defense he would play on MJ if there was a game to decide whose better.
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you stupid jew
nobody was "Scared to face you" they just wanted a fair league without some asshole offering two bench players for a starter
and Lebron owns Kobe...Kobe gonna have to leave town to be on a team that can beat Miami lol
wtf do u mean "fair league"...lmfao, ur acting like theres no reject button on the trades. and it aint like u didnt go around vetoing my trades, even when they were PROVEN to be fair, smh. so if anything, u cheated...proposing trades to people doesnt change the fairness of a league, genius, it takes exactly 1 second to click the "reject trade" button....smfh@that retarded ass excuse to not have the hands-down best player in ur league.
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lol @ saying the Heat play like its game seven when Kobe is playing defense he would play on MJ if there was a game to decide whose better.
it's obvious that the inexperienced teams (Miami, Clippers, etc.) approach these sorta games a lot differently than teams who have won it all.. historically, Lakers dont peak until it's time to peak. even in '09 and '10, we lost to LeBron in the regular season, but won the title.....it's BEEN like this.
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lol @ saying the Heat play like its game seven when Kobe is playing defense he would play on MJ if there was a game to decide whose better.
it's obvious that the inexperienced teams (Miami, Clippers, etc.) approach these sorta games a lot differently than teams who have won it all.. historically, Lakers dont peak until it's time to peak. even in '09 and '10, we lost to LeBron in the regular season, but won the title.....it's BEEN like this.
I refuse to believe you watched that game if you're going to tell me LeBron went all out & Kobe was "chillin'". Shit, the Lakers were calling that win against the Clippers a few days ago a "must win".
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lol @ saying the Heat play like its game seven when Kobe is playing defense he would play on MJ if there was a game to decide whose better.
it's obvious that the inexperienced teams (Miami, Clippers, etc.) approach these sorta games a lot differently than teams who have won it all.. historically, Lakers dont peak until it's time to peak. even in '09 and '10, we lost to LeBron in the regular season, but won the title.....it's BEEN like this.
I refuse to believe you watched that game if you're going to tell me LeBron went all out & Kobe was "chillin'". Shit, the Lakers were calling that win against the Clippers a few days ago a "must win".
look...of course Kobe wants to win and tries to win while he's out there playing....but the Lakers don't prepare for or approach these games the way the inexperienced teams do. i'm dead serious, LeBron feels like he just won the championship every time he beats Kobe. so far, it has been the biggest accomplishment in his career. come on, son...any1 who knows the history of the league knows that the best teams don't start going all out until april. like i say every year, though, we'll see in the playoffs.
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when was the last time Kobe beat Lebron anyway?
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lol @ saying the Heat play like its game seven when Kobe is playing defense he would play on MJ if there was a game to decide whose better.
it's obvious that the inexperienced teams (Miami, Clippers, etc.) approach these sorta games a lot differently than teams who have won it all.. historically, Lakers dont peak until it's time to peak. even in '09 and '10, we lost to LeBron in the regular season, but won the title.....it's BEEN like this.
miami has more NBA finals experience over the last year than the Lakers do
yea..a losing experience LOL
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what did the lakers do in the playoffs last year again?
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right...try to follow me. Lakers have experience winning a title...Miami don't. get what i mean?
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mlwakee beats la LOL
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right...try to follow me. Lakers have experience winning a title...Miami don't. get what i mean?
d wade never won a title??
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mlwakee beats la LOL
Lakers blow cock on the road.. their road game stretch ahead could tear them apart.
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right...try to follow me. Lakers have experience winning a title...Miami don't. get what i mean?
d wade never won a title??
Completely different Heat team.. Lakers r different but not completely different, still got the same top 3 that won the title, plus fisher, arrest, etc. experience. We need to find ourselves as a team; I think the players r just starting to get to know each other n it's harder with a compact schedule that leaves us with barely any practices. With our best point guard out, shits been even worse. We gotta get our shit together soon, though.
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man NIK u are just a huge hater
when lebron wins a title ur still gonna hate
if lebron 2peats ur still gonna hate
if lebron wins 5 titles in a row UR STILL GONNA HATE lmao
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mlwakee beats la LOL
Lakers blow cock on the road.. their road game stretch ahead could tear them apart.
hopefully
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i mean who FEARS the lakers anymore?
they are a shell of what they were 2 years ago. complete shell.
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oh and not to mention D-Fish sucks ass too. Lakers would get WAXED if they went up against OKC in the playoffs, especially on back to back nights lol
LOL...right. cuz Gasol + Bynum wouldnt own Perkins + Ibaka in the post. get the fuck outta here.
umm u forgot about UR TEAM CANT GUARD RUSSELL WESTBROOK U STUPIDASS JEWRAT FUCKFACE!
then kevin durant will outscore kobe too
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
yeah
as if D Fish can guard Westbrook or Kobe can take Durant lmao
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and IF the fakers got out of the west SOMEHOW, good luck vs the heat, or EVEN the bulls
but the west is OKC's to lose unless Dallas steps up again
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man NIK u are just a huge hater
when lebron wins a title ur still gonna hate
if lebron 2peats ur still gonna hate
if lebron wins 5 titles in a row UR STILL GONNA HATE lmao
why is it always "if" and "when" with u idiots?
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oh and not to mention D-Fish sucks ass too. Lakers would get WAXED if they went up against OKC in the playoffs, especially on back to back nights lol
LOL...right. cuz Gasol + Bynum wouldnt own Perkins + Ibaka in the post. get the fuck outta here.
umm u forgot about UR TEAM CANT GUARD RUSSELL WESTBROOK U STUPIDASS JEWRAT FUCKFACE!
then kevin durant will outscore kobe too
LOL...u sound like a mad loser, son.....get it? mad loser.
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
LOL, i haven't seen u this upset at me since i made that thread postin up ur gayass pic. those comments i made earlier about u literally bein gay musta really hit home in a hard way, huh, biebs? smh. try not 2 be so obvious, my boy
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
LOL, i haven't seen u this upset at me since i made that thread postin up ur gayass pic. those comments i made earlier about u literally bein gay musta really hit home in a hard way, huh, biebs? smh. try not 2 be so obvious, my boy
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You just don't know anything about sports, do I have to quote myself nine times throughout the last month of me saying something similar to that?
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NIK is gonna be crying up a storm when the LAkers get swept outta the playoffs again
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Heat Bulls in 30 minutes
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what an entertaining first half
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
LOL, i haven't seen u this upset at me since i made that thread postin up ur gayass pic. those comments i made earlier about u literally bein gay musta really hit home in a hard way, huh, biebs? smh. try not 2 be so obvious, my boy
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You just don't know anything about sports, do I have to quote myself nine times throughout the last month of me saying something similar to that?
is that why outside of u and hack, i'm considered one of the more knowledgeable heads on here?.......shit, hack is even scared 2 have me in his fantasy league. yall know what it is. 8)
quit actin so butthurt all the time. were discussing basketball...not how gay u are.
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LOL, by who?
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LOL, by who?
everyone here, outside of u and hack, have acknowledged my basketball knowledge at one point or another......cant really say the same for u.
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LOL, by who?
everyone here, outside of u and hack, have acknowledged my basketball knowledge at one point or another......cant really say the same for u.
What a cop out. "Ohhh, by who? Well...everyone."
Like there are hundreds of posters. There are like five names & I've never seen any of them say "Damn, NIK. You're knowledgeable". There was a point I've seen Laker fans call you an idiot for your ridiculous dickriding.
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I'm telling you man. We really need to get a petition rolling around to ban NIK from talking sports. Knowing that there are idiots like him out there, completely tarnishing sports with his outrageously biased & moronic posts, & kinda Eden-like homosexuality towards Kobe, nearly ruins the experience.
LOL, i haven't seen u this upset at me since i made that thread postin up ur gayass pic. those comments i made earlier about u literally bein gay musta really hit home in a hard way, huh, biebs? smh. try not 2 be so obvious, my boy
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You just don't know anything about sports, do I have to quote myself nine times throughout the last month of me saying something similar to that?
is that why outside of u and hack, i'm considered one of the more knowledgeable heads on here?.......shit, hack is even scared 2 have me in his fantasy league. yall know what it is. 8)
LMAO
"you can tell them niggas you roll with whatever you want, but you and i know whats going on"
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NIK is the Skip Bayless of Dubcc
except instead of ball riding Tebow he ball rides Kobe :D
NIK you don't even follow football, how can u call urself a sports fan
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LOL, by who?
everyone here, outside of u and hack, have acknowledged my basketball knowledge at one point or another......cant really say the same for u.
What a cop out. "Ohhh, by who? Well...everyone."
Like there are hundreds of posters. There are like five names & I've never seen any of them say "Damn, NIK. You're knowledgeable". There was a point I've seen Laker fans call you an idiot for your ridiculous dickriding.
are u askin for 5 names?
rayallen
7even
rememdy360
wcsoldier
eclipze
have all acknowledged my basketball knowledge. now give me 5 names who have acknowledged yours...LOL. i'm waiting.....
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LMAO
"you can tell them niggas you roll with whatever you want, but you and i know whats going on"
LOL...u scary
Great job NIK, you are the basketball aficionado
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LOL, any1 watchin LeChoke?
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ROSE MISSES THAT FREETHROW LMAO
kinda sucks cuz hes on my fantasy team tho
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lol...he missed em both. just saved lebrons ass.
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LMAO
noah fouls out and D Rose chokes away the free throws
this is a dope game
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lmfao...lebron chokes 2 ft's again. smh.
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man NBA players need to learn to shoot free throws lol
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yeah lmao you cant make this shit up!!!
too bad my celtics have no chance of that #1 seed so it doesnt really matter to me lol
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NIGGAS IN GENERAL, SPRUNG OFF THE MINERAL
ID RATHER TRIP OFF A HOMIE THAN A HO
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and the BULLS lose
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35 for lebron, another dope game by the leagues best player
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35 for lebron, another dope game by the leagues best player
lol, dont tell me u didnt see him choke in the clutch, though. lets be real, u cant say uve ever seen a superstar who is as susceptible to folding under pressure as lebron. saved by chalmers.
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35 for lebron, another dope game by the leagues best player
lol, dont tell me u didnt see him choke in the clutch, though. lets be real, u cant say uve ever seen a superstar who is as susceptible to folding under pressure as lebron. saved by chalmers.
last years MVP choked in the clutch too
it happens
how was Kobe against Dallas last playoff?
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kobe could never do this:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/29/lebron-james-dunk-video/
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Terrible finish by Chicago. Wtf was up with Boozer ;D
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LeBron is insane! He DOES need to learn how to finish game tho. But still, hes fucking nuts.
And NIK, you know if you replaced Kobe with LeBron right now you would be sitting at the top of the west and not doing as shitty as they are. Just admit it, the Lakers would be much better with LeBron, Pau and Bynum than they are right now. With Brons old bench boss, M Brown...
Youre so jealous when it comes to LeBron, its pretty pathetic.
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when Bron made it to the finals w the cavs and they were winning 60+ games, he never had the talent around him like kobe did. imagine if lebron played with lamar, pau and bynum?
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when Bron made it to the finals w the cavs and they were winning 60+ games, he never had the talent around him like kobe did. imagine if lebron played with lamar, pau and bynum?
and ariza!
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LeBron is insane! He DOES need to learn how to finish game tho. But still, hes fucking nuts.
And NIK, you know if you replaced Kobe with LeBron right now you would be sitting at the top of the west and not doing as shitty as they are. Just admit it, the Lakers would be much better with LeBron, Pau and Bynum than they are right now. With Brons old bench boss, M Brown...
Youre so jealous when it comes to LeBron, its pretty pathetic.
LOL, wtf u talkin about?...Lakers are not bad cuz of Kobe. the resurgence of Kobe has easily been the one bright spot on our team this year. we are strugglin cuz were learning the new system, as well as getting acquainted as a new team, all during a compact schedule. LeBron would be STRUGGLING in a situation like this. come to think of it, didn't the Heat start something like 8-9 last year? come on, now.
trust me, i'm not jealous of a dude who hasn't proven shit in his career yet...come on, plant, lets be real. fact of the matter is, every time i see lebron playing in crucial moments, i see him folding under pressure. i've never seen it so obvious with ANY other player in the league. it's like, i already KNOW he's gunna choke before he does it. ya feel me?
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LeBron is insane! He DOES need to learn how to finish game tho. But still, hes fucking nuts.
And NIK, you know if you replaced Kobe with LeBron right now you would be sitting at the top of the west and not doing as shitty as they are. Just admit it, the Lakers would be much better with LeBron, Pau and Bynum than they are right now. With Brons old bench boss, M Brown...
Youre so jealous when it comes to LeBron, its pretty pathetic.
LOL, wtf u talkin about?...Lakers are not bad cuz of Kobe. the resurgence of Kobe has easily been the one bright spot on our team this year. we are strugglin cuz were learning the new system, as well as getting acquainted as a new team, all during a compact schedule. LeBron would be STRUGGLING in a situation like this. come to think of it, didn't the Heat start something like 8-9 last year? come on, now.
trust me, i'm not jealous of a dude who hasn't proven shit in his career yet...come on, plant, lets be real. fact of the matter is, every time i see lebron playing in crucial moments, i see him folding under pressure. i've never seen it so obvious with ANY other player in the league. it's like, i already KNOW he's gunna choke before he does it. ya feel me?
you're so mad! and so predictable!!
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when Bron made it to the finals w the cavs and they were winning 60+ games, he never had the talent around him like kobe did. imagine if lebron played with lamar, pau and bynum?
LOL...LeBron played with his share of good players, including WADE & BOSH last year. show me what he's done, then speak. not what he CAN do. there's a difference, bro.
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LeBron is insane! He DOES need to learn how to finish game tho. But still, hes fucking nuts.
And NIK, you know if you replaced Kobe with LeBron right now you would be sitting at the top of the west and not doing as shitty as they are. Just admit it, the Lakers would be much better with LeBron, Pau and Bynum than they are right now. With Brons old bench boss, M Brown...
Youre so jealous when it comes to LeBron, its pretty pathetic.
LOL, wtf u talkin about?...Lakers are not bad cuz of Kobe. the resurgence of Kobe has easily been the one bright spot on our team this year. we are strugglin cuz were learning the new system, as well as getting acquainted as a new team, all during a compact schedule. LeBron would be STRUGGLING in a situation like this. come to think of it, didn't the Heat start something like 8-9 last year? come on, now.
trust me, i'm not jealous of a dude who hasn't proven shit in his career yet...come on, plant, lets be real. fact of the matter is, every time i see lebron playing in crucial moments, i see him folding under pressure. i've never seen it so obvious with ANY other player in the league. it's like, i already KNOW he's gunna choke before he does it. ya feel me?
you're so mad! and so predictable!!
LOL. ok?
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when Bron made it to the finals w the cavs and they were winning 60+ games, he never had the talent around him like kobe did. imagine if lebron played with lamar, pau and bynum?
LOL...LeBron played with his share of good players, including WADE & BOSH last year. show me what he's done, then speak. not what he CAN do. there's a difference, bro.
yeah wade and bosh this last year
how about those years in Cleveland with 50 year old Shaq and Mo Williams lmao
MO FREAKING WILLIAMS lol
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when Bron made it to the finals w the cavs and they were winning 60+ games, he never had the talent around him like kobe did. imagine if lebron played with lamar, pau and bynum?
LOL...LeBron played with his share of good players, including WADE & BOSH last year. show me what he's done, then speak. not what he CAN do. there's a difference, bro.
yeah wade and bosh this last year
how about those years in Cleveland with 50 year old Shaq and Mo Williams lmao
MO FREAKING WILLIAMS lol
Mo Williams was an all-star that year..LeBron apologists gotta stop actin like Cavs didnt have a strong team that year. Anderson Varaejo was a beast on defense, even made the all-defensive team that year. Antawn Jamison was also an all-star, 20-10 player, and was the franchise player on the Wizards before the Cavs acquired him...u actin like LeBron was around a bunch of scrubs, which simply wasnt the case. Cavs had one of the best defensive units in the league that year. They won 60+ games...if LeBron didn't choke, Cavs coulda easily taken out Boston that year. quit actin like they didn't have a chance LOL.
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Now PLANT makes three people who realize you're a fucking idiot.
NIK said if LeBron was on on the first 3-peat team or the recent Laker team that won the Finals, they wouldn't have won lmfao.
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if Mo Williams played on any other team is not an all star
lmao @ using the allstar argument....he had Lebron to play with!
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if Mo Williams played on any other team is not an all star
lmao @ using the allstar argument....he had Lebron to play with!
I don't understand it though, it's why he proves he's too biased & not knowledgeable enough to speak about it.
The Lakers get destroyed last year, but everyone BUT Kobe choked. Kobe had Pau, Bynum, Artest, Odom. That's an absolute joke.
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(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnu5e9R8r61qgplnto1_400.gif)
;D
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Now PLANT makes three people who realize you're a fucking idiot.
NIK said if LeBron was on on the first 3-peat team or the recent Laker team that won the Finals, they wouldn't have won lmfao.
no way in hell Lakers woulda threepeated with LeBron in place of Kobe....Kobe was holdin down those 4th quarters with some amazing clutch play in those years. without kobe stepping his game up when it was on the line, we would not have threepeated. we all know how reliable lebron is in the clutch, so i'm pretty shocked that ur acting as if that claim is laughable, when it's perfectly valid.
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if Mo Williams played on any other team is not an all star
lmao @ using the allstar argument....he had Lebron to play with!
I don't understand it though, it's why he proves he's too biased & not knowledgeable enough to speak about it.
The Lakers get destroyed last year, but everyone BUT Kobe choked. Kobe had Pau, Bynum, Artest, Odom. That's an absolute joke.
thats cuz it's the truth...Kobe played his game in the series vs. the Mavs last year. LeBron didn't. whats so hard to understand?
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kobe could never do this:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/29/lebron-james-dunk-video/
SMH, dude is a freak.
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kobe could never do this:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/29/lebron-james-dunk-video/
SMH, dude is a freak.
agreed!
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kobe could never do this:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/29/lebron-james-dunk-video/
SMH, dude is a freak.
agreed!
Na, you ain't heard? Lemme go dig up the posts where our neighborhood genius said Kobe is a hands down better dunker than LeBron.
I think he even went as far to say LeBron "isn't a good dunker" lmao.
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lol he said he wasn't a good dunker?
shit lebron has a been a good dunker since HS
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lebron is a good dunker, he's just not one of the best dunkers...he does the same dunk over and over, hence why he's never had the balls to enter the dunk contest.
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Rose choked , Lebron choked , the refs choked twice ... terrible way to end a good game .... if I were a Bulls fan, I'd be mad at Boozer , dude never shows up in big games
It seems Wade can't have a good game against the Bulls too
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lebron is a good dunker, he's just not one of the best dunkers...he does the same dunk over and over, hence why he's never had the balls to enter the dunk contest.
did u watch that dunk i posted? or see it in the game itself???
shit is the best player of the year so far
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Rose choked , Lebron choked , the refs choked twice ... terrible way to end a good game .... if I were a Bulls fan, I'd be mad at Boozer , dude never shows up in big games
It seems Wade can't have a good game against the Bulls too
boozer is such a zero, his whole career been fucked since he chose to leave the Cavs for more money instead of being a solid #2 to Lebron. Sure, playing with Williams and getting paid was nice but it he still a sucka
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lebron is a good dunker, he's just not one of the best dunkers...he does the same dunk over and over, hence why he's never had the balls to enter the dunk contest.
did u watch that dunk i posted? or see it in the game itself???
shit is the best player of the year so far
yes, and the dunk is beast...but again, lebron aint one of the greatest dunkers. he has 1 dunk that he does over and over, which is impressive, but not enough to put him in that category.
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well once he establishes himself more in the post he should work on dunks again
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i never thought lebron would be able to average over 28 points again since he went to miami but hes proving me wrong
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wade being out isn't a bad thing sometimes cuz he needs rest, hes a bit older than bron and bosh
okay its 4:40 am im going to bed
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lebron is a good dunker, he's just not one of the best dunkers...he does the same dunk over and over, hence why he's never had the balls to enter the dunk contest.
did u watch that dunk i posted? or see it in the game itself???
shit is the best player of the year so far
yes, and the dunk is beast...but again, lebron aint one of the greatest dunkers. he has 1 dunk that he does over and over, which is impressive, but not enough to put him in that category.
yea honestly lebrons dunks are pretty boring, i mean yea he gets elevation and he cocks it back for a tomahawk, but shit is whack especially when u grew up watching vince back in the day. i like watching wade more than lebron.
i mean contest windmills, contested 360s, etc etc IN GAME IN SOMEONES FACE, i mean i hardly see any of that these days, funnest play to watch is rose imo, with all those english shots and the way he penetrates the paint.
and kobe, those j's he puts up still make you go OOooH and aAAAh. and of course griffin. durant is fun, but his game is nothing we haven't seen before, he doesn't have any specific move thats unique to him, and no that swinging of arms and getting the foul isn't a move.
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
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miami new orleans tonight
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
no, i don't want us to get raped like LA vs Dallas
why dont u watch football?? huh?
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
First off that Griffin dunk was weak. And I never said LeBron was a "bad" dunker, that would be ridiculous. I just think the power style gets redundant, granted, a lot of my favorite dunkers like Kobe, VC, etc are out of their prime at this point, but I'm just talking about my own preference. Nothing to get upset over.
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just be glad that Lebron, as the best player in the NBa, is still entertaining us to the fullest
in 5 years hes gonna be out of his prime and yall will be like "WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT 2008-2015 LEBRON?" hah
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except for NIK who hates him :D
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so Miami is 16-5
the Lakers are what, 12 and 9?
miami appears to be better yet again
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
not gonna lie, Griffin is a future BEAST in this league
but yes they quickly got him into all these commercials and its offsetting
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
First off that Griffin dunk was weak. And I never said LeBron was a "bad" dunker, that would be ridiculous. I just think the power style gets redundant, granted, a lot of my favorite dunkers like Kobe, VC, etc are out of their prime at this point, but I'm just talking about my own preference. Nothing to get upset over.
NIK wouldn't say kobe is out of his prime lol
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
First off that Griffin dunk was weak. And I never said LeBron was a "bad" dunker, that would be ridiculous. I just think the power style gets redundant, granted, a lot of my favorite dunkers like Kobe, VC, etc are out of their prime at this point, but I'm just talking about my own preference. Nothing to get upset over.
NIK wouldn't say kobe is out of his prime lol
Well he still gets his points but I don't think anyone's gonna debate that his dunking ability isn't what it used to be, although his dunks are still elite compared to my boy VC lol
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of course kobe is outta his prime tho lol its a fact
hes still dope tho, or else i wouldnt have him on my fantasy team!
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
no, i don't want us to get raped like LA vs Dallas
why dont u watch football?? huh?
i do...but LA doesn't have a team, so i don't really follow any franchise like that.
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
no, i don't want us to get raped like LA vs Dallas
why dont u watch football?? huh?
i do...but LA doesn't have a team, so i don't really follow any franchise like that.
why dont u follow the Chargers, Raiders or 49ers? u got 3 teams in ur radius man, all 3 are average or better at the moment
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btw you can always be a Giants fan, half of Florida is
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
no, i don't want us to get raped like LA vs Dallas
why dont u watch football?? huh?
i do...but LA doesn't have a team, so i don't really follow any franchise like that.
why dont u follow the Chargers, Raiders or 49ers? u got 3 teams in ur radius man, all 3 are average or better at the moment
out of those teams, i like the raiders...but until we get a football team in LA, i aint followin the NFL like i do the NBA.
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elior, u realize that NFL is our countries biggest sporting league. and MLB is second
that leaves YOUR sport, NBA, 3rd.
pick an NFL team bro....put the 32 names in a hat and draw 1 lol
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
First off that Griffin dunk was weak. And I never said LeBron was a "bad" dunker, that would be ridiculous. I just think the power style gets redundant, granted, a lot of my favorite dunkers like Kobe, VC, etc are out of their prime at this point, but I'm just talking about my own preference. Nothing to get upset over.
I'll admit LeBron doesn't switch it up, when he throws it down. Despite, he's usually dunking on people & it's physically a phenomenon. But still, like I said, nobody is really doing anything special.
To be completely honest, I'd rather see him do what he did tonight & split two defenders by putting the ball behind his back & laying it up than most people do some cool fast break dunk.
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chammy why is WALE in ur siggy?
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http://www.youtube.com/v/mRME9j6f560
LOL, just as we shit on Blake. Dope. Even better when Youtube posts the game speed version.
People are already calling it dunk of the year lmao.
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chammy why is WALE in ur siggy?
Best song off his album. Give that cut a chance. ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/v/cNoARAwtZUk
Full speed. :o
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sorry chammy but that there wale song is like a typical lame south rapper song with decent multi syllables
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them beat boys are beastin
16-5
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elior, u realize that NFL is our countries biggest sporting league. and MLB is second
that leaves YOUR sport, NBA, 3rd.
pick an NFL team bro....put the 32 names in a hat and draw 1 lol
LOL... do what u like, but i aint worried bout fittin in with the country, bro. besides, the NBA is currently bigger than the MLB. MLB fell off a while ago in terms of popularity.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/cNoARAwtZUk
Full speed. :o
LOL, I was about to say his in game dunks were way better than his contest one, DAMN. The fact that it was against the Thunder makes it that much better 8)
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lol @ elinor not liking the NFL
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elior, u realize that NFL is our countries biggest sporting league. and MLB is second
that leaves YOUR sport, NBA, 3rd.
pick an NFL team bro....put the 32 names in a hat and draw 1 lol
LOL... do what u like, but i aint worried bout fittin in with the country, bro. besides, the NBA is currently bigger than the MLB. MLB fell off a while ago in terms of popularity.
lol the MLB just missed 2 months on strike, how r they bigger?
ur market just got PUJOLS btw nigga what u know about that
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yea...blake griffin is a much better dunker than lebron. i really didn't get the comparison. blake contorts his body in the air, and while he's not vince carter, he still has SOME flair. like i said, lebron aint a bad dunker, but he's not one of the greats.
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why do you all have the same discussions over , over and over again ? Never tired of it ?
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why do you all have the same discussions over , over and over again ? Never tired of it ?
if u do not want to be a part of the discussion then certainly feel free not to post in it, but why compels you to bother taking your time to post this?
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yea...blake griffin is a much better dunker than lebron.
oh well there is no doubting that lol
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
Like what? What dunk are you guys looking for that everyone shocks you guys with nightly? I haven't seen Durant or Kobe or any other superstar do something great. Rose & Westbrook don't do anything fancy, they just jump incredibly high & since they're shorter, it looks cooler.
But at the end of the day, nobody does a 360, between the legs, windmill, off the backboard, over a seven foot center. So I don't know why LeBron is held to the standard that he has to do it every time he throws down. LeBron is 6'8'', 250 & can touch the top of the backboard. It's a physical impossibility to say he's "not a good dunker".
yeah Vince Carter is a once in a decade kind of guy
i mean Blake doesn't do anything more exciting yet the NBa has branded him the next big dunker
Yeah, dude jumped on top of a hood of a car & everyone jumped on his nuts. He had some cool dunks against the Knicks, but like Hack posted, LeBron had one of the greater alley-oops ever lol. Son just jumped over somebody.
First off that Griffin dunk was weak. And I never said LeBron was a "bad" dunker, that would be ridiculous. I just think the power style gets redundant, granted, a lot of my favorite dunkers like Kobe, VC, etc are out of their prime at this point, but I'm just talking about my own preference. Nothing to get upset over.
lol im a hater because lebron does the same boring dunk? i didn't even mention kobe, i dont see how you get "laker fan hatin" when i just said that lebron was a boring dunker.
dude is a boring dunker, i don't get how thats considered to be "the laker hating crew" bullshit. VC is the best dunker of all time, it astounds me how some people even consider lebron in that category, everything lebron did, all those contested dunks, VC did the same thing but he did 360 DUNKS, WINDMILLS, even on a double team sometimes dude was the craziest, flashiest in game dunker.
yea i don't expect him to practice on "flashy dunks" but i don't know what the hell he's practicing on since i don't see any improvement with his footwork, shooting, or post game. but then again dude doesn't really have to, he's with bosh and wade.
but yea that griffin dunk was pretty damn weak, i swear y do all the dope ass dunks get overlooked by whack ass dunks made by over hyped players?
last year derozan was clearly the winner, and i forget the time with rudy fernandez and pau gasol, rudy was def over looked. dwight, blake, nate, they don't deserve that shit. but then again i haven't taken the dunk contest seriously since like what 04? its a joke.
rudy fernandez is a much more entertaining dunker to watch than lebron, and thats on some real shit.
but heres a couple of VC dunks to refresh everyones memory, these are in game dunks only
http://www.youtube.com//v/mizEJTeD3NI
and a kobe vid for the fuck of it
http://www.youtube.com//v/iFZZwM1NSWI
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we all know VC was great
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
NIK wouldn't say kobe is out of his prime lol
Well he still gets his points but I don't think anyone's gonna debate that his dunking ability isn't what it used to be, although his dunks are still elite compared to my boy VC lol
yeah but i kinda think Kobe is past his prime but the emergence of Bynum (finally) is helping mask that. bynum is actually scoring now lol
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LOL. The Laker hater crew is unreal.
I can't speak for those two, but I do see where they're coming from on this one. I mean, you saw me post that I thought that LeBron dunk was amazing, but it is true that his dunks are pretty redundant. In terms of actually being able to straight up dunk in games he's as good as anyone obviously, but I'd rather watch guys that do more than the same power dunk over and over again, that's all.
NIK wouldn't say kobe is out of his prime lol
Well he still gets his points but I don't think anyone's gonna debate that his dunking ability isn't what it used to be, although his dunks are still elite compared to my boy VC lol
yeah but i kinda think Kobe is past his prime but the emergence of Bynum (finally) is helping mask that. bynum is actually scoring now lol
Bynum really needs to know how to make plays for others in the double team, he's been improving, but he shoots over double teams way too much it's great when he makes it, but if he's backing down and clearly draws another man and isn't fully in position he needs do dish it put ASAP , he can't be doin that every time.
We dOnt need Howard we just need a damn young m good pg, Howard would be nice but if Miami had some how got Tyson chandler or any good legit man down low than east is game
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yeah D Fish is mad old and probably shouldn't be a starter
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
blake g
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The current lakers should be renamed charmin. Softest team I've ever seen
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
blake g
That's one man, whose a big man, coming off of pick & rolls, dunking over people. I'll give it to you, but alright, there is one. Nobody else is head & shoulders better.
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Demar derozan, Gerald Wallace, Jave McGee, Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith to name a few
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
blake g
That's one man, whose a big man, coming off of pick & rolls, dunking over people. I'll give it to you, but alright, there is one. Nobody else is head & shoulders better.
how dare you hate on the best basketball player in the city of LA
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
blake g
That's one man, whose a big man, coming off of pick & rolls, dunking over people. I'll give it to you, but alright, there is one. Nobody else is head & shoulders better.
how dare you hate on the best basketball player in the city of LA
lmfao...he aint even the best on his team
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Son posted two videos of guys from ten years ago, who can't even come close to doing those things anymore. Again, who in the league is a better dunker than LeBron? Be real.
blake g
That's one man, whose a big man, coming off of pick & rolls, dunking over people. I'll give it to you, but alright, there is one. Nobody else is head & shoulders better.
how dare you hate on the best basketball player in the city of LA
lmfao...he aint even the best on his team
best players in LA in 2012
blake griffin > chris paul > matt kemp > clayton kershaw > kobe
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call me when Blake drops 48 on someone.......................after 16 seasons in the league
LOL
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call me when Blake drops 48 on someone.......................after 16 seasons in the league
we all know Blake isn't a ball hog so this won't be happening
Clippers are in first place bro
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call me when Blake drops 48 on someone.......................after 16 seasons in the league
we all know Blake isn't a ball hog so this won't be happening
Clippers are in first place bro
so steve nash is a ballhog?
http://www.youtube.com/v/EoYOs2_3i2Y
good one.
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lol @ NIK acting like big men drop 48 points in their prime, let alone way past prime.
Son knows nothing of life or sports.
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lol @ NIK acting like big men drop 48 points in their prime, let alone way past prime.
Son knows nothing of life or sports.
every great big has dropped at least 48, gayboy
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Shaq dropped 45 as a Sun WHEN STEVE NASH WAS OUT THAT NIGHT
that is more impressive than anything Kobe does this year lol
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lol @ NIK acting like big men drop 48 points in their prime, let alone way past prime.
Son knows nothing of life or sports.
every great big has dropped at least 48, gayboy
Besides Wilt Chamberlain, who played against white guys 6 inches shorter than him, every other big man has one big game. Even Blake had 47 points.
Guards drops 40+ point games all the time.
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Shaq dropped 45 as a Sun WHEN STEVE NASH WAS OUT THAT NIGHT
that is more impressive than anything Kobe does this year lol
i dunno how thats more impressive than having FOUR CONSEVUTIVE 40+ point games - 16 seasons into your career, but ok....
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Shaq dropped 45 as a Sun WHEN STEVE NASH WAS OUT THAT NIGHT
that is more impressive than anything Kobe does this year lol
i dunno how thats more impressive than having FOUR CONSEVUTIVE 40+ point games - 16 seasons into your career, but ok....
which one of your personalities is this?
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btw Blake is becoming a top face of the NBA too
you see him in all these commercials....nobody wants to hire rapist for their ads
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Shaq dropped 45 as a Sun WHEN STEVE NASH WAS OUT THAT NIGHT
that is more impressive than anything Kobe does this year lol
i dunno how thats more impressive than having FOUR CONSEVUTIVE 40+ point games - 16 seasons into your career, but ok....
which one of your personalities is this?
LMAO.
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lebron with 18 in the 1st quarter so far
he's doing it big, youngins 8)
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btw Blake is becoming a top face of the NBA too
you see him in all these commercials....nobody wants to hire rapist for their ads
Nike? Lol I'm already sick of those ads.
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the last ad i saw Kobe on tv was the one with A-rod
that was a gay ad too
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^
What about that string of Illuminati ads, you can't tell me you haven't seen those.
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What about that string of Illuminati ads, you can't tell me you haven't seen those.
ive seen the jay-z ones welcoming the newest member blue ivy
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Those Kobe Illuminati commercials are an embarrassment to a "secret" society lol.
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hahahahahaha
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How you lose with the monster of a game Lebron had is beyond me..is this really gonna be the 3rd day in a row i give a loser my MVP of the day away *sigh*
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The NBA is fixed.
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^ You're fixed. 8)
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How you lose with the monster of a game Lebron had is beyond me..is this really gonna be the 3rd day in a row i give a loser my MVP of the day away *sigh*
lol
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clippers win
best team in LA 8)
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
Blake is just a monster
best player in LA since Shaq ;)
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
Blake is just a monster
best player in LA since Shaq ;)
or...we could go with the player who dropped 3 more points than him and 14 assists
and i think you are forgetting kwame brown, Luke Walton & Smush parker.
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
Blake is just a monster
best player in LA since Shaq ;)
or...we could go with the player who dropped 3 more points than him and 14 assists
and i think you are forgetting kwame brown, Luke Walton & Smush parker.
and cp3 cant get 15 rebounds like Griffin did
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The NBA is fixed.
lmao
they tryna keep the Bucks relevant?
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
Blake is just a monster
best player in LA since Shaq ;)
or...we could go with the player who dropped 3 more points than him and 14 assists
and i think you are forgetting kwame brown, Luke Walton & Smush parker.
and cp3 cant get 15 rebounds like Griffin did
and blake cant get 14 dimes? ???
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and because of that a loser doesn't get my MVP yay.
Blake is just a monster
best player in LA since Shaq ;)
or...we could go with the player who dropped 3 more points than him and 14 assists
and i think you are forgetting kwame brown, Luke Walton & Smush parker.
and cp3 cant get 15 rebounds like Griffin did
and blake cant get 14 dimes? ???
CP3 only had 11 dimes
get it right :D
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yo nik u know lebron could average 36 a game if his team ddint wanna win like kobees didnt
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yo nik u know lebron could average 36 a game if his team ddint wanna win like kobees didnt
are u even tryna make sense?
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yo nik u know lebron could average 36 a game if his team ddint wanna win like kobees didnt
are u even tryna make sense?
if it dont make dollas it dont make sense
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celtics - knicks tonight...should be a dope game 8)
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Lol Rondo is back already? The way you were talking made it seem like he was on IR or something.
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Lol Rondo is back already? The way you were talking made it seem like he was on IR or something.
i know i'm completely shocked, that was another case of BSPN taking a story and running with it i guess
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the 76ers have no business being on the same court in the 4th quarter
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anyone else catch the endo f the celtics knicks game? caught it at a friends house, thank christ the celtics won
dantoni must be screaming fire me already lmao
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yo NIK since i know u hate ESPN so much, whats ur take on their NBa rankings hating LA?
the 13-9 Lakers are 15th, the 13-7 Clippers 17th
what the fuck is up with that shit????
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anyone else catch the endo f the celtics knicks game? caught it at a friends house, thank christ the celtics won
dantoni must be screaming fire me already lmao
I feel for him, the Knicks were winning games before Melo came and fucked up the chemistry
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EXACTLY
the NY nicker-bockaz should have waited for D Howard to reach free agency
that pre melo team + howard = nastyness
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yo NIK since i know u hate ESPN so much, whats ur take on their NBa rankings hating LA?
the 13-9 Lakers are 15th, the 13-7 Clippers 17th
what the fuck is up with that shit????
just more proof
any1 wit a brain knows damn well if the Knicks had the same record as the Lakers, they'd be top 10 in the power rankings
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yo NIK since i know u hate ESPN so much, whats ur take on their NBa rankings hating LA?
the 13-9 Lakers are 15th, the 13-7 Clippers 17th
what the fuck is up with that shit????
just more proof
any1 wit a brain knows damn well if the Knicks had the same record as the Lakers, they'd be top 10 in the power rankings
or if they had the same record as the 1st place LA Clipshow they'd be top 5 :D
if the knicks traded rostesr with the clippers blake would be on ESPn.coms front page every other day
meanwhile my nigga RONDO is back :)
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btw the Heat killed the 6ers tonight, Cham why r u in hiding u 76er fan lol
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if the 60s were tougher why doesnt NIK think bill russell is the goat?
11 rings....ELEVEN
show me where i said the 60s was tougher...i know u aint as dumb as cham
well my nigga CHAMMY says that u say Oscar was better than Lebron because of his stats
so i guess that is why. which makes u WRONG nigga
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if the 60s were tougher why doesnt NIK think bill russell is the goat?
11 rings....ELEVEN
show me where i said the 60s was tougher...i know u aint as dumb as cham
well my nigga CHAMMY says that u say Oscar was better than Lebron because of his stats
so i guess that is why. which makes u WRONG nigga
lol@"my nigga cham"...u 2 gotta be the biggest butt-buddy fags on the internet. smh
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no one is bigger butt buddies than you and infinite
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no one is bigger butt buddies than you and infinite
i am infinite
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no one is bigger butt buddies than you and infinite
i am infinite
well you are a white guy who wants to be black so maybe this is true ;)
feed your seeds brian
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The Sixers are playing incredible. The guard depth is remarkable.
I just don't want to jynx it lol.
The Heat are clearly the best team in basketball, despite what records show. Come playoff time, we can give LeBron a run for his money. We showed a lot last year.
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The Sixers are playing incredible. The guard depth is remarkable.
I just don't want to jynx it lol.
The Heat are clearly the best team in basketball, despite what records show. Come playoff time, we can give LeBron a run for his money. We showed a lot last year.
last night showed that when Lebron runs point the heat are unstoppable against the 76ers
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i think the celtics may have a shot at the division
philly got a tough schedule this month
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lol@biebs using "we" for the sixers....as if it aint obvious he's going for the heat. SMH
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lol@biebs using "we" for the sixers....as if it aint obvious he's going for the heat. SMH
at who?
NIK u better worry bout them Clippers this year nigga
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The Sixers are playing incredible. The guard depth is remarkable.
I just don't want to jynx it lol.
The Heat are clearly the best team in basketball, despite what records show. Come playoff time, we can give LeBron a run for his money. We showed a lot last year.
last night showed that when Lebron runs point the heat are unstoppable against the 76ers
Like I said, they're the best team in the NBA. I'm going to use a quote by arguably the stupidest poster this forum has ever had..."It's the regular season, who cares?". Give the me playoffs.
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heat and celtics both won today
but who fucking cares its NEW YORK GIANTS ALL DAY 8)
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speaking of the heat beating toronto when the fuck is Bargnani or whatever the euros name is, coming back?
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speaking of the heat beating toronto when the fuck is Bargnani or whatever the euros name is, coming back?
out indefinitely. he could be out for the season..
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aw shit that is no good
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aw shit that is no good
thats what happens when u try winning fantasy by discluding me from your league. :laugh:
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aw shit that is no good
thats what happens when u try winning fantasy by discluding me from your league. :laugh:
aka when people ask me not to invite you 8)
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http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320206020
the one time i want the Lakers to win so it helps out Boston and Kobe goes and screws it up by shooting too much
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so looks like them Clippers are gonna beat the Magic 8)
and Rose and Melo both got hurt early in their games today. that's not good.
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aw shit that is no good
thats what happens when u try winning fantasy by discluding me from your league. :laugh:
aka when people ask me not to invite you 8)
yea....cuz i beat them. LOL@your friends asking u to not invite the guy who destroyed all you nerds. on some punk-made shit. best believe, if someone ever shitted on me the way i shitted on ya'll, i'd want me some retribution. nutless faggots.
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ive got a new nickname for you: broken record 8)
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ive got a new nickname for you: broken record 8)
and i've got a new nickname for u.. scary wilson
first, i ruined ur fantasy basketball experience, then i ruined ur homies'......lmao. u should be ashamed of urself.
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lmao you eye brow waxing homo
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how does it feel to know that even if u win... u still lose?
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how does it feel to know that even if u win... u still lose?
this is you
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this is you and your buddies:
(http://cache.fleshone.com/files/2011/04/terapatrick-sextoy-fleshlight-orifices.jpg)
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Waxes his eyebrows LMFAO.
Genetically gay.
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now that kobe is divorced awtch NIK start to wax other parts too lmao
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gettin head from 2 bitches at the same time would be great.....IF IT WASNT CHAM AND HACK.
hop off, fruitsnacks
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you shoulda been a cop, fuck hip hop
with them eye brows, you bound to get shot
not from Woodland Hills but i rap a lot
elior smokes crack a lot
the flavas bout to drop
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gettin head from 2 bitches at the same time would be great.....IF I WASN'T AN AWKWARD, SHY, FAGGOT & ACTUALLY GOT THAT.
Zero game. Maybe that's why you're so frustrated here.
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smh
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smh
White flag status.
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lol....biebs really feels like he accomplished something because i dont wanna continue derailing this thread and arguing for 5 pages about what a faggot virgin he is and how i obviously have an easier time getting head than he does.
carry on...
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You stand no chance in this world. You're a hermit crab. No BJ's. Zero swag.
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damn Billups is out 4 the year
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mad props to Roy Hibbert on his 1st all star game
and of course congrats to Paul Pierce for his 10th all star appearance
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this is you and your buddies:
(http://cache.fleshone.com/files/2011/04/terapatrick-sextoy-fleshlight-orifices.jpg)
that's your new girlfriend huh
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u know i actually have an NBA thread...since half these posts are about the nba and not the heat...
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u know i actually have an NBA thread...since half these posts are about the nba and not the heat...
why should the NBA be limited to one thread
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the Celtics bench is showing up today 8)
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damn
Celtics still own the all time series record 153 to 123 lol
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u know i actually have an NBA thread...since half these posts are about the nba and not the heat...
why should the NBA be limited to one thread
well kind of off topic here as u made it as a heat thread....but whatever
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word its aight
anyone watching this here OKC vs Sactown game?
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word its aight
anyone watching this here OKC vs Sactown game?
Old super sonics vs. New super sonics*
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essentially, yes
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Wow, I still can't believe I was rooting for the Blunder (figures they lost).
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the Blunder
LOL @ that name, thats funny
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
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Torontos goin down
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
Jeremy Lin>>>>>Amare&Carmelo combined.
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tonight ur right
Lin is raping the LAkers like Kobe in Colorado
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Metta World Hunger needs to keep his emotions in check lmao
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not gonna lie
i was doubting Lin's legitimacy going into tonights game but this guy is just a freaking baller
not gonna call him elite like these honks at ESPN but if I'm the knicks i am very proud to have accidentally discovered him (Dolan better send a thank you note to Sam Dalemburt)
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tyson chandler is embarrassing bynum tonight
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Jeremy Lin...Harvard's finest
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
Jeremy Lin>>>>>Amare&Carmelo combined.
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Remarkable.
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Remarkable.
kobe said that he had never even seen Lin play lmao
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anyone else notice NIK posted all evening and goes ghost after the Lakers lose to Linsanity?
lolz
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Kobe played like shit. Couldn't handle being #2 on the billing.
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Kobe played like shit. Couldn't handle being #2 on the billing.
hes not gonna be happy at ALL then when they trade for Howard
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
this is the Heat thread..crackhead
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
this is the Heat thread..crackhead
whatever, go drop some more acid and bang floydness
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Lakers @ Knicks tonight
could be a decent watch but would be much better with Amare or Melo playing
this is the Heat thread..crackhead
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lmao
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NIK is tight Kobe got shitted on.
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lmao
LOL @ the pic especially D'Antonis face.
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I'm rooting for him but it'll be tough once they do better scouting. Not a great shooter, athlete, passer, defender. Solid tho
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did u just say hes not a great passer??????
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'm rooting for him but it'll be tough once they do better scouting. Not a great shooter, athlete, passer, defender. Solid tho
I dont understand what scouting is gonna do. Lakers had to know he was the main focus defensively n he still gave em 38. You are underratin the kid. He came outta nowhere n hes young his game is gonna develop. Besides He doesnt have to be great this team is missing its two most talented players and hes out there puttin on mini jordanlike performances. Hes inspirin his teammates and gettin the best from everyone n lookin like a leader somethin the Knicks were lacking from Melo n Amare. All he has to do is work on his turnovers n keep playin smart like hes doin and when Melo n Amare get back this team could be on the rise.
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'm rooting for him but it'll be tough once they do better scouting. Not a great shooter, athlete, passer, defender. Solid tho
I dont understand what scouting is gonna do. Lakers had to know he was the main focus defensively n he still gave em 38. You are underratin the kid. He came outta nowhere n hes young his game is gonna develop. Besides He doesnt have to be great this team is missing its two most talented players and hes out there puttin on mini jordanlike performances. Hes inspirin his teammates and gettin the best from everyone n lookin like a leader somethin the Knicks were lacking from Melo n Amare. All he has to do is work on his turnovers n keep playin smart like hes doin and when Melo n Amare get back this team could be on the rise.
Amare is going to be a great help for him
but Carmelo......he may hurt the chemistry to be honest
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I hear you Rallo. Melo has to swallow his pride n let Lin be the main ball handler which he may or may not do but Im leanin more towards the fact he will. I dont think Carmelo wants to fuck up whats goin on now especially with people sayin the Knicks messed up in the trade for him. At the end of the day this teams weakness was PG and now shit is startin to look like a strength.
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I hear you Rallo. Melo has to swallow his pride n let Lin be the main ball handler which he may or may not do but Im leanin more towards the fact he will. I dont think Carmelo wants to fuck up whats goin on now especially with people sayin the Knicks messed up in the trade for him. At the end of the day this teams weakness was PG and now shit is startin to look like a strength.
who da hell builds these teams, i swear the heat and knicks just throw in talent together without really considereing the team, and hopefully thinking that theyll play good because their good players.
melo and amare was the stupidest shit ever, i dont even know why NY was so bent on getting melo, which made nof ucking sense. these guys are fucking dumb. no wonder these franchises are usually at the bottom of the barrel.
NY was in a much better situation before melo, and so was melo.
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yeah Melo shouldve waited for free agency, taken the money loss and signed to NY and got his money back with endorsements
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LIN is going hard again tonight
17 points and still a quarter left
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did u just say hes not a great passer??????
yep. have you seen all the turnovers and watched him play more than just the last few games?
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did u just say hes not a great passer??????
yep. have you seen all the turnovers and watched him play more than just the last few games?
from the 4 games i've watched dude has incredible floor vision which leads to his great passes
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I hear you Rallo. Melo has to swallow his pride n let Lin be the main ball handler which he may or may not do but Im leanin more towards the fact he will. I dont think Carmelo wants to fuck up whats goin on now especially with people sayin the Knicks messed up in the trade for him. At the end of the day this teams weakness was PG and now shit is startin to look like a strength.
who da hell builds these teams, i swear the heat and knicks just throw in talent together without really considereing the team, and hopefully thinking that theyll play good because their good players.
melo and amare was the stupidest shit ever, i dont even know why NY was so bent on getting melo, which made nof ucking sense. these guys are fucking dumb. no wonder these franchises are usually at the bottom of the barrel.
NY was in a much better situation before melo, and so was melo.
You can't compare MIA and NY. The guys on MIA had been friends for a while and had been talking about that possibility since the Beijing Olympics. It's not like the Heat GM just woke up one day and thought "Hey, I'm gonna sign Bosh and LeBron", all of them were in on it. Plus, lets not forget that they made the finals their first year. I know a team with all that talent is championship or bust, but they still made the finals when nobody said they would at the beginning of the season. NY getting Melo was much more random and a much worse idea, still not sure what to make of the Heat.
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yeah Lebron and Wade talked about playing with eachother for 2 years
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NY simply wanted star power. They'd rather win 45 games with huge stars than 50 games with no stars. Not that weird at all. They ain't winning a championship regardless of what they woulda done.
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NY simply wanted star power. They'd rather win 45 games with huge stars than 50 games with no stars. Not that weird at all. They ain't winning a championship regardless of what they woulda done.
yeah the Knicks lost out on winning any titles in the near future when Lebron went to Miami
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Yeah, the Knicks just want to fill seats.
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Yeah, the Knicks just want to fill seats.
little did they know they didnt need Carmelo to do that
they just needed this little Taiwanese guy
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damn Miami raped Atlanta
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memphis playing mad sloppy tonight
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miami became the first team ever to win 3 road games on 3 straight nights by double figures
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watch out 4 magic
lol Howards leaving now thanks to the big 3
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anyone else find it funny the Bulls and 76ers play the Lakers once
but the Heat play them twice?
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rondo with 19 at the half 8)
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rondo has 31 points and 5 dimes so far 8)
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anyone see Super Lintendo with 13 dimes tonight??
only 10 points but it was the Queens so they didnt ned him to score
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anyone see Super Lintendo with 13 dimes tonight??
only 10 points but it was the Queens so they didnt ned him to score
Super Lintendo is the greatest name in sports.
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i agree
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Heat - Magic this weekend
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anyone hear that nigga Lebron talking about going back to Cleveland? wait til ur career in Miami is over lmao
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after watching the bulls go 6-2 without Rose, im starting to wonder how over rated Rose might be
they are only challenged when they go up against Rajon Rondo (who rapes CJ Watson)
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^^^^ great D + team chemistry + depth .. plus they play in the East ...
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plus they play in the East ...
the east has the 2 best teams in the NBA lol
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anyone hear that nigga Lebron talking about going back to Cleveland? wait til ur career in Miami is over lmao
u think they want him back? what he did was worst than what shaq did in LA, at least shaq got us 3.
that nigga juz left after that whole "decision" stunt.
if there were crowds burning his jersey, that pretty much explains it all, he needs to say his ass in south beach. i mean cmon, if things are so good in miami, why would he even think or want to go back to cleveland.
if the heat don't wing at least 3 its pretty much a big fail. doesnt have to be in any order. hey at least I'm not saying they need to win at least 7 or 8
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yeah they'll take him back if he's still good
but if he goes there at age 38 and puts up 10 points a game they wont want him back of course
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speaking of Shaq looney, what do u think of him telling Howard not to leave Orlando???
funniest shit ive heard from Shaq
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speaking of Shaq looney, what do u think of him telling Howard not to leave Orlando???
funniest shit ive heard from Shaq
just shaq being shaq,
hes insecure even though he's one of the best big men to ever dominate the floor. i guess he's a believer in records are meant to be broken.
but he has nothing to worry about with dwight surpassing him as a better big in laker history.
he's just not as dominant, u cannot run an offense through him and get results, when i see him its still seems like he's iffy at times, but he's improved, he added a couple of post moves.
but yea man shaqs juz insecure, and u can tell with that whole "superman" stuff. shaqs petty, but sometimes he just trying to get his name out there.
but orlando is dead water. wit him wanting to leave and having horrible contracts i don't expect them to improve.
towards getting out of orlando imo, theres not point of staying there, he wants to leave and orlando can't bring pieces in (from what I've heard last)
no ones is going to take turks ridiculous contract unless howard is included with him.
smart thing for dwight to do is go to LA or Dallas. i don't see anything in new jersey/brooklyn.
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if Dwight can pair up with Deron then i say go to NJ
if not? go to Fallas
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god damn the Heat are RAPING the cavs
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the Cavs got destroyed
wonder if Dan Gilbert watched the entire game lmao
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lmfao
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8)
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is that really a laker chain...except like mardi gra beads?
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Magic @ Heat today 8)
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JEREMY LIN IS KILLIN DALLAS
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20 point game, think this shit is over
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y isnt there a Warriors thread
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cuz they suck
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
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heat knicks thursday
should be dope
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
not gonna mention Ibakas triple double with 11 BLOCKS???
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
not gonna mention Ibakas triple double with 11 BLOCKS???
8)
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
not gonna mention Ibakas triple double with 11 BLOCKS???
i also forgot to mention Deron Williams linning over Jeremy Lin and the Knicks
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Chalmers with 6 threes btw dope game
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
not gonna mention Ibakas triple double with 11 BLOCKS???
i also forgot to mention Deron Williams linning over Jeremy Lin and the Knicks
id bet d-wil wanted to get revenge.
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DURANT with 51 tonight, holy crap
not gonna mention Ibakas triple double with 11 BLOCKS???
i also forgot to mention Deron Williams linning over Jeremy Lin and the Knicks
most focused ive seen him since utah games against Paul
id bet d-wil wanted to get revenge.
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knicks are gonna be tired tmrw when they play the Heat
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Knicks/Heat tonight should be interesting. They are talking about LeBron potentially guarding Lin late in the game. Similar to the Bulls playoff series against Rose.
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Knicks/Heat tonight should be interesting. They are talking about LeBron potentially guarding Lin late in the game. Similar to the Bulls playoff series against Rose.
36-35 so far
living up to being a dope game at this point 8)
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#Linvisible.
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Lin > Kobe
for sure
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and boom goes the dynomite
Heat won that shit easy in the 2nd half yall
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The Heat are unbeatable.
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The Heat are unbeatable.
unless you count the clippers (0-1), nuggets (0-1), Bucks (1-2) and warriors (0-1)*cough*
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The Heat are unbeatable.
unless you count the clippers (0-1), nuggets (0-1), Bucks (1-2) and warriors (0-1)*cough*
they arent losing to any of those teams in a 7 game series except maybe, JUST MAYBE the Clippers
but losing Chauncy hurts them on winning the west IMO
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The Heat are unbeatable.
unless you count the clippers (0-1), nuggets (0-1), Bucks (1-2) and warriors (0-1)*cough*
they arent losing to any of those teams in a 7 game series except maybe, JUST MAYBE the Clippers
but losing Chauncy hurts them on winning the west IMO
obviously the blazers will win once Brandon Roy comes out of retirement & Raymond Felton drops dead.
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roy aint unretiring is he? haha i wish he would
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as expect the oldass Lakers lose against OKC
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WHOS READY 4 THE ALL STAR GAME
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heat are 27-7, bulls 27-8
gonna be great watching them fight for that 1 seed
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who wins the dunk contest tonight?
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who wins the dunk contest tonight?
I got money on all events.
I took New York to win that team shit, Kyrie getting the best odds to win that PG shit, KD for 3's (also good odds) & Paul George to take it home tonight. Let's go. 8)
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all star game tonight
go east
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lol @ andrew bumknee getting hurt already
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lol @ andrew bumknee getting hurt already
nigga was shook. he saw how dwight was out there to fuck him up since niggas were talking shit about tho the best center is..
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lol @ andrew bumknee getting hurt already
nigga was shook. he saw how dwight was out there to fuck him up since niggas were talking shit about tho the best center is..
this is very true
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durant and lebron both drop 36
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Isn't this the Miami heat thread? Why are half the posts not about the heat.
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well a certain jewish troll derails every other thread
back to the Heat, smh @ that lame Favre like pass by Lebron
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8)
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Lin > Kobe
for sure
it still remains
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it sucks for Miami that Mike Miller used to average 18 points a game and now gets a third of that
he needs to be more effective if they wanna beat the Thunder/Clippers/Mavs to win the title
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lebron: 22, 11 and 8
man this guy is a monster....i hope the celtics dont face the heat in the playoffs unless we make the EC finals
lol... Won't no who to root for, eh ?
no, i don't want us to get raped like LA vs Dallas
why dont u watch football?? huh?
i do...but LA doesn't have a team, so i don't really follow any franchise like that.
Oakland, San Francisco, San Diego
all three teams rep your state
or you could let fate decide your hands and put 32 names in a hat and draw one out lmao
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rondo with the triple double 8)
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Today's Games
Oklahoma City (53%) at Orlando (47%)
Minnesota (49%) at Phoenix (51%)
Miami (48%) at Portland (52%)
LA Clippers (63%) at Sacramento (37%)
kinda shocked to see Miami as underdogs, even if it's only by 2% on the road against a strong home team in Portland
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Heat/Portland tonight.
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Heat/Portland tonight.
and OKC @ Orlando, one of Dwight's last games as a Magic 8)
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^ROFL
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chris bosh's grandma died so i guess he's out for a bit...hope the best 4 his family
bron and wade vs portland...good game still
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bron with 31 already, damn this shits over
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lebron 38 points, 11 boards and 6 assists
d-wade 33 points and 10 assists
this team is beasting right now
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Today's Games
Oklahoma City (53%) at Orlando (47%)
Minnesota (49%) at Phoenix (51%)
Miami (48%) at Portland (52%)
LA Clippers (63%) at Sacramento (37%)
kinda shocked to see Miami as underdogs, even if it's only by 2% on the road against a strong home team in Portland
vegas fucked up on that Heat game
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lol LeBron has become a walking punchline
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lol.. by this point, u HAVE to be a dickrider not to see it.
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9 game win streak snapped last night by Utah
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Lebron had 17 in the 4th quarter last night including two critical shots that came towards the end, certainly not his fault they lost
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Lebron had 17 in the 4th quarter last night including two critical shots that came towards the end, certainly not his fault they lost
+1
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I love how niggas like NIK sat there for years & said "LeBron can't shoot. He doesn't have a good jump shot". Now after LeBron dominates the entire 4th quarter, gets double teamed upon getting the inbound, sets Haslem up with a shot he's made his CAREER off of, opposed to forcing up some shit, people like NIK find something to say.
Nice free throw by Wade at 98-96. ::)
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lmao@the dumb mutherfuckers who dont realize that LeBron doesnt have the balls to take the final shot of a game and never fails to chokes in the end.
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I honestly would've thought a guy who watches one sport would actually know what he's talking about in that one sport. Pretty pathetic.
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lmao@the dumb mutherfuckers who dont realize that LeBron doesnt have the balls to take the final shot of a game and never fails to chokes in the end.
wish he balled like you
i like how you call everybody a dickrider who doesn't agree with you. go back to your delusional little world.
For some reason they did a pick & roll instead of an isolation play. Haslem was wide open and lebron had both defender come after him. A pick and roll works like that. It drawed a 3-2 on the weak side. Anybody who has ever played basketball knows that is what you are supposed to do.
Should Lebron of taken it in the all star game? yes. are there other times he should of? yes. this time? no.
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lmao, wtf are u talkin about?...Lebron was hitting fadeaway three pointers fallin out of bounce. he had a little 15 footer he coulda pulled up and shot, or he coulda just taken it in. point is, you want ur best player taking the last shot, especially when he's 8-9 in the quarter. EVERYONE in the basketball world is sayin this...it's only the LeBron jockers who are stickin up for him after yet ANOTHER display of pure pussiness.
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I honestly would've thought a guy who watches one sport would actually know what he's talking about in that one sport. Pretty pathetic.
yea...cuz i'm the only one calling out lebron on this lmao.
and you're also not notorious for bein a lebron dicksucker.
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I honestly would've thought a guy who watches one sport would actually know what he's talking about in that one sport. Pretty pathetic.
yea...cuz i'm the only one calling out lebron on this lmao.
and you're also not notorious for bein a lebron dicksucker.
Apparently me & the rest of the forum lol.
"He could up pulled up with two defenders on him & take a 19 footers" (LOL, this nigga)...or he could of set up a guy who hits seventeen footers like they're layups with a wide open look.
That was the play called. LeBron ran it. It worked. He missed the shot.
Cute how as it becomes more & more apparent the Heat are a lock for a ring this year, the reaching gets more & more outrageous. Not only are you dead wrong, but now you're using ESPN analysts as your back up. Or should I say "BSPN" analysts...your words.
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I honestly would've thought a guy who watches one sport would actually know what he's talking about in that one sport. Pretty pathetic.
yea...cuz i'm the only one calling out lebron on this lmao.
and you're also not notorious for bein a lebron dicksucker.
Apparently me & the rest of the forum lol.
"He could up pulled up with two defenders on him & take a 19 footers" (LOL, this nigga)...or he could of set up a guy who hits seventeen footers like they're layups with a wide open look.
That was the play called. LeBron ran it. It worked. He missed the shot.
Cute how as it becomes more & more apparent the Heat are a lock for a ring this year, the reaching gets more & more outrageous. Not only are you dead wrong, but now you're using ESPN analysts as your back up. Or should I say "BSPN" analysts...your words.
i never said anything about bspn...i dont even watch that gayass "network". i listen to fox sports radio and EVERYONE, from the analysts to the callers, were laughing at lebron's unwillingness to take the last shot. and not because it was a one time occurrence...because thats who he is. it's his dna. he lacks the killer instinct of the GOATs, and it's been apparent for a long time now. this is not the reason, it's just yet another example. only dicksuckers like u are failing to realize that lebron lacks balls in the clutch. seriously.
it woulda been the right basketball play if his name was mario chalmers or norris cole. NOT LEBRON JAMES.
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lmao@the dumb mutherfuckers who dont realize that LeBron doesnt have the balls to take the final shot of a game and never fails to chokes in the end.
wish he balled like you
i like how you call everybody a dickrider who doesn't agree with you. go back to your delusional little world.
For some reason they did a pick & roll instead of an isolation play. Haslem was wide open and lebron had both defender come after him. A pick and roll works like that. It drawed a 3-2 on the weak side. Anybody who has ever played basketball knows that is what you are supposed to do.
Should Lebron of taken it in the all star game? yes. are there other times he should of? yes. this time? no.
Thing is...Lebron was hitting crazy shots left and right. Amazing shots! He was pure heat. Perfect 4th quarter. So the whole b-ball rules or what you should in a situation like this falls out of the window. Lebron should've ended it. There's no way around it.
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I love how NIK is so narrow minded that he doesn't understand that there are millions of people who feel the same way about LeBron as he does. I mean, all those callers HAD to have been unbiased, right? Just calling it down the line? ::)
You may be a better rapper than talking basketball. & I really thought you couldn't be worse at anything than Hip Hop.
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lmao@the dumb mutherfuckers who dont realize that LeBron doesnt have the balls to take the final shot of a game and never fails to chokes in the end.
wish he balled like you
i like how you call everybody a dickrider who doesn't agree with you. go back to your delusional little world.
For some reason they did a pick & roll instead of an isolation play. Haslem was wide open and lebron had both defender come after him. A pick and roll works like that. It drawed a 3-2 on the weak side. Anybody who has ever played basketball knows that is what you are supposed to do.
Should Lebron of taken it in the all star game? yes. are there other times he should of? yes. this time? no.
Thing is...Lebron was hitting crazy shots left and right. Amazing shots! He was pure heat. Perfect 4th quarter. So the whole b-ball rules or what you should in a situation like this falls out of the window. Lebron should've ended it. There's no way around it.
glad to see that there are still normal peeps postin here.
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lol @ blaming LeBron for Spoe's call.
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Spoe has to win a title this year or else he's done
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LeBron is easily one of the most gifted athlete's in NBA history and dude can ball out of his mind. But if you're gonna sit there and tell me this guy isn't afraid of the moment in late game situations, then you're just lying to yourself. Mentality is a big part of the game...that killer instinct when the game is on the line and everyone else is too nervous to take that shot...some people have it and some people don't. Jordan had it, Kobe has it, Lebron doesn't. That's all there is to it.
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LeBron is easily one of the most gifted athlete's in NBA history and dude can ball out of his mind. But if you're gonna sit there and tell me this guy isn't afraid of the moment in late game situations, then you're just lying to yourself. Mentality is a big part of the game...that killer instinct when the game is on the line and everyone else is too nervous to take that shot...some people have it and some people don't. Jordan had it, Kobe has it, Lebron doesn't. That's all there is to it.
oh good after 50 comments of pure hate you actually use logic and say what you mean like a person trying to make a point.
yes that i agree with at this point in time.
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LeBron is easily one of the most gifted athlete's in NBA history and dude can ball out of his mind. But if you're gonna sit there and tell me this guy isn't afraid of the moment in late game situations, then you're just lying to yourself. Mentality is a big part of the game...that killer instinct when the game is on the line and everyone else is too nervous to take that shot...some people have it and some people don't. Jordan had it, Kobe has it, Lebron doesn't. That's all there is to it.
oh good after 50 comments of pure hate you actually use logic and say what you mean like a person trying to make a point.
yes that i agree with at this point in time.
LOL...but thats what i was saying the whole time. you're just too sensitive to understand.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/rvGL0eIBeRM
^^This is when he passed it up against the Thunder for the Eddie House game winner. I understand that this time around, the result was good......but look at the shot he passed up. You can't tell me this guy isnt afraid to take the shot with the game on the line.
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LeBron is easily one of the most gifted athlete's in NBA history and dude can ball out of his mind. But if you're gonna sit there and tell me this guy isn't afraid of the moment in late game situations, then you're just lying to yourself. Mentality is a big part of the game...that killer instinct when the game is on the line and everyone else is too nervous to take that shot...some people have it and some people don't. Jordan had it, Kobe has it, Lebron doesn't. That's all there is to it.
oh good after 50 comments of pure hate you actually use logic and say what you mean like a person trying to make a point.
yes that i agree with at this point in time.
LOL...but thats what i was saying the whole time. you're just too sensitive to understand.
Walking punchline. no balls. choke artist.
then a well written out paragraph.
Sorry i'm actually an emo super sensetive kid :'( how dare you insult bron bron!
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LeBron is easily one of the most gifted athlete's in NBA history and dude can ball out of his mind. But if you're gonna sit there and tell me this guy isn't afraid of the moment in late game situations, then you're just lying to yourself. Mentality is a big part of the game...that killer instinct when the game is on the line and everyone else is too nervous to take that shot...some people have it and some people don't. Jordan had it, Kobe has it, Lebron doesn't. That's all there is to it.
oh good after 50 comments of pure hate you actually use logic and say what you mean like a person trying to make a point.
yes that i agree with at this point in time.
LOL...but thats what i was saying the whole time. you're just too sensitive to understand.
Walking punchline. no balls. choke artist.
then a well written out paragraph.
Sorry i'm actually an emo super sensetive kid :'( how dare you insult bron bron!
it's all good...i understand.
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eh these games today are boring
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The man is the best player on the planet. It cannot be argued.
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The man is the best player on the planet. It cannot be argued.
if the best player on the planet gets outplayed by Joel Anthony in the NBA Finals, the NBA is in a really bad state.
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Lebron is better than Kobe, so to quote Thesaurus "All i know is that"
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i wonder if D Wade is gonna give Kobe another concussion
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RONDO: 18 POINTS, 20 ASSISTS AND 17 REBOUNDS
BEST PG IN THE WORLD 8)
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ANYONE JUST SEE KOBE FLOP AFTER BATTIER BLOCKED HIM CLEANLY?
wow Kobe is turning into a euro
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Miami definitely missed Bosh today
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Miami definitely missed Bosh today
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
i'll take 25-13-7 over 33-3-1 any day
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
at scoring? yes.
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Lebron had a good game and it wasn't his fault. to base the Kobe/Lebron argument on loss to the Lakers who they already beat once this year is purely retarted.
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so Bosh is gonna miss one more game apparently
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
i'll take 25-13-7 over 33-3-1 any day
were u watchin the game? or just readin the box score, as usual??
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
i'll take 25-13-7 over 33-3-1 any day
were u watchin the game? or just readin the box score, as usual??
oh yeah because Kobe was SO fucking superior that if someone disagrees they must not have watched the game ::)
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
i'll take 25-13-7 over 33-3-1 any day
were u watchin the game? or just readin the box score, as usual??
oh yeah because Kobe was SO fucking superior that if someone disagrees they must not have watched the game ::)
kobe was clearly superior. be honest, did u watch the game??
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I'm a heat fan but Kobe did have a good game scoring wise, dude was knocking down almost every shot. Bosh not playing was big though because LA was able to double team Wade and Lebron quite a bit without having to worry about them kicking it out to him. Wade fouling out with 5 definitely hurt too
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I'm a heat fan but Kobe did have a good game scoring wise, dude was knocking down almost every shot. Bosh not playing was big though because LA was able to double team Wade and Lebron quite a bit without having to worry about them kicking it out to him. Wade fouling out with 5 definitely hurt too
yeah if Bosh is in there its a completely different game for D-wade
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Agreed. A lot of people don't give credit to Bosh but he definitely gets the pressure off Wade/James
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yep except maybe the first 5 minutes of game play because i went out to grab a pizza after the C's game
lol...Kobe was like 6-6 in the first 5 minutes. u missed a good portion of his greatness. at least u got to see your Heat lose, though.
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yep except maybe the first 5 minutes of game play because i went out to grab a pizza after the C's game
lol...Kobe was like 6-6 in the first 5 minutes. u missed a good portion of his greatness. at least u got to see your Celtics win, though.
this is true :)
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yep except maybe the first 5 minutes of game play because i went out to grab a pizza after the C's game
lol...Kobe was like 6-6 in the first 5 minutes. u missed a good portion of his greatness. at least u got to see your Celtics win, though.
this is true :)
what the hell, you can get a pizza in 5 mins???? oh how i envy the eastcoast sometimes. things are so much put together.
gotta have a fucking car to go anywhere in goddamn la.
but anyways, lol anyone see how lebron shoved troy murphy and than immediately had a "o shit, my bad" look on his face?
lol this dude is so indecisive , he doesnt know whether to be tough or whether to take that last shot. loved how gasol put his ass on check.
hey, we won for the first time against the heat since they came together, i deserve a freebie lebron bashing ive been waiting a long time for this
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yep except maybe the first 5 minutes of game play because i went out to grab a pizza after the C's game
lol...Kobe was like 6-6 in the first 5 minutes. u missed a good portion of his greatness. at least u got to see your Celtics win, though.
this is true :)
what the hell, you can get a pizza in 5 mins???? oh how i envy the eastcoast sometimes. things are so much put together.
gotta have a fucking car to go anywhere in goddamn la.
but anyways, lol anyone see how lebron shoved troy murphy and than immediately had a "o shit, my bad" look on his face?
lol this dude is so indecisive , he doesnt know whether to be tough or whether to take that last shot. loved how gasol put his ass on check.
hey, we won for the first time against the heat since they came together, i deserve a freebie lebron bashing ive been waiting a long time for this
it pays off living close to a pizza place 8)
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Hyped for LeBron's ring ceremony. Niggas might start deactivating accounts.
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Hyped for LeBron's ring ceremony. Niggas might start deactivating accounts.
lulz
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sounds like Bosh is back with the team now
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Kobe still>>>>LeBron
it's obvious
i'll take 25-13-7 over 33-3-1 any day
were u watchin the game? or just readin the box score, as usual??
oh yeah because Kobe was SO fucking superior that if someone disagrees they must not have watched the game ::)
kobe was clearly superior. be honest, did u watch the game??
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lmao!
now that Bosh is back Lebron won't have to guard the other teams power forwards like he did on Gashole
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solid game last night. Getting a little worried about Wade's ankle though...seems like he has had to come out of quite a few games because of it
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solid game last night. Getting a little worried about Wade's ankle though...seems like he has had to come out of quite a few games because of it
yeah they need to rest his ass against teams like New Jersey
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definitely. Got the Hawks tonight, hopefully it's similar to the last time Miami played them lol
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Wade is injury prone. Its no surprise tho, by the style he plays. But Im not too worried about him missing time, since the Heat did so well when he was out before.
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hawks tonight oculd be interesting
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haha the Lakers follow up the Heat victory by losing to Detroit and Washington
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Lebron droppin 31 tonight
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you dont see lebron going 3-18 in a game against washington
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so the Lakers will be losing to Minnesota tonight? haha
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they woulda lost if Love played
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that clippers spurs game was great
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todays games:
New York (22%) at Chicago (78%)
Boston (35%) at LA Clippers (65%)
Milwaukee (52%) at New Jersey (48%)
Charlotte (19%) at New Orleans (81%)
Minnesota (47%) at Phoenix (53%)
Washington (15%) at San Antonio (85%)
Detroit (27%) at Utah (73%
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Heat lose to Orlando again....seems Dwight gets motivated when playing them
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24 & 26. Beast.
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yeah he was beasting tonight.
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congrats to chicago on the win, they were shooting the lights out tonight lol lucas will not be able to keep this up consistently though. Bring on the playoffs 8)
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yeah that was crazy
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Today's Games
Washington (19%) at Atlanta (81%)
Portland (26%) at Chicago (74%)
Milwaukee (37%) at Golden State (63%)
Minnesota (36%) at LA Lakers (64%)
Toronto (23%) at Memphis (77%)
Indiana (46%) at New York (54%)
San Antonio (37%) at Oklahoma City (63%)
New Jersey (22%) at Orlando (78%)
Miami (44%) at Philadelphia (56%)
Detroit (28%) at Phoenix (72%)
Boston (59%) at Sacramento (41%)
* Estimated win probability in parentheses.
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Lebron with 29, 8 and 7 tonight
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Orlando Miami tonight 8)
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go howie, yah whoowhooooooo howie
ok lights
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heat won
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heat go 34-11 now
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so Fish chooses OKC over Miami
interesting
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lmao... 16 of the 19 replies on this last page are by hack.
Talkin to urself aint exactly the best look when the whole board already thinks ur retarded, my dude
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lmao... 16 of the 19 replies on this last page are by hack.
Talkin to urself aint exactly the best look when the whole board already thinks ur retarded, my dude
the goal is to get make this the largest thread in the sports section
could care less what you think jewboy
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smfh why would u want the biggest thread in sports section to be a thread of u talkin to urself, retard?
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cuz it seems to piss you off 8)
you ain't got to lie to kick it Elior
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it does piss me off....to know that people as retarded as u actually exist.
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it does piss me off....to know that people as retarded as u actually exist.
that's how the rest of this forum felt when you posted your "busted" thread
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yo NIK the Heat are up big in the 3rd quarter
whats yo take on how Lebron is doing so far??
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it does piss me off....to know that people as retarded as u actually exist.
that's how the rest of this forum felt when you posted your "busted" thread
busted thread>>>>>>>>official heat thread
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yes because it has comedic gold in it
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Heat vs Thunder tonight 8)
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two straight losses for the Heatles
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Lebron has a dislocated finger but says he wont miss time
Amare is out 2-4 weeks for NYK
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heat beat dallas last night
lakers lose to OKC 8)
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HEAT CELTICS TODAY 8)
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damn Lebron is the only one who is showing up today
Bosh is 2-10 so far lolz 8)
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Miami looks like shit. Bosh has played poorly lately. Dude looks lost out there. They honestly played better when Wade was out.
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Miami looks like shit. Bosh has played poorly lately. Dude looks lost out there. They honestly played better when Wade was out.
well you must keep in mind they WERE playing against Rondo today :D
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Yeah, when Bosh is playing like shit, they're in trouble.
Good news for Miami is that Battier is looking real good these days.
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OMG! LeBron finished the game with 0 assists! That's why they lost. What a selfish player.
Just had to release my inner hater. :D
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OMG! LeBron finished the game with 0 assists! That's why they lost. What a selfish player.
Just had to release my inner hater. :D
lol
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Andrew Bumknee out tonight vs the Nets 8)
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and Lebron drops 41 tonight over Philly, thus helping out Boston 8)
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Heat-Thunder 8)
43-40 OKC
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and the Heat win
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incredible game from lebron tonight 8) If he plays like this into the playoffs he will get his 1st ring
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incredible game from lebron tonight 8) If he plays like this into the playoffs he will get his 1st ring
agreed
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This is what the playoffs will come down to for the Heat, the cast.
You know Bron going to do Bron, Wade will do Wade, Bosh has a question mark over his head. When he shows up with the A game, they're unbeatable. But guys like Chalmers, Battier, Cole, Haslem, etc. If those guys are knocking down those open looks Bron finds for them, it's a wrap.
If you look at the last game vs. the Thunder, all those role players had pretty poor games & the Thunder ran away with it.
Bosh has been shakey though lately.
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if Lebron keeps playing this way it might not matter what Chris Posh does
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LeBron James, Miami Heat make their case at Thunder’s expense
Kurt Helin Apr 4, 2012, 11:57 PM EDT
2 Comments
Reuters
If this does end up being the NBA finals matchup, we are all in for a lot of fun. These teams are starting to develop a real dislike of each other.
Miami and Oklahoma City got together for an intense, physical, playoff-style game Wednesday were LeBron James make his MVP case and the Heat got a measure of revenge on Oklahoma City with a 98-93 win. They split their season series, each winning at home (OKC rolled the Heat two weeks ago).
It was a game where each team picked up some flagrants (including Russell Westbrook on LeBron and Kendrick Perkins on Dwyane Wade). There was some trash talking. There were messages both ways. You could feel a little playoff
Be careful about reading much into regular season statements — the Lakers dominated the Mavericks and the Bulls owned the Heat last regular season. But what we can say is that both of these teams are better on their home court and a finals series between them could be penciled in for seven games. Seven hard games.
One of the best part of Heat/Thunder games is that LeBron and Kevin Durant go head-to-head a lot.
After a sub-par performance in OKC (and lackluster play for a couple of weeks) LeBron came out with the kind of game that had him the clear frontrunner for the MVP back at the All-Star break. He dropped 34 points by starting out nailing threes then going into the post and bullying his way to the rim. All the time he was recognizing the play and hitting the open man — he finished with 10 assists. (A few of those were to Shane Battier — James Harden sagged off him a lot and the veteran made the Thunder pay.)
At the other end he was charged with stopping Kevin Durant — and nobody stops Kevin Durant. KD had 30 points on 21 shots but struggled from three (2-7) including missing a rushed deep three with 15 seconds remaining in the game that could have tied it. Westbrook added 28 but was just 9-26 shooting on the night.
The MVP race comes down to this — LeBron James has had the better statistical season, but voters (media members) are drawn to stories and narrative and as Durant is the great young player on the fun young team he has an advantage. Just like Derrick Rose did last year. This game put LeBron back in the mind of a lot of voters.
These are two teams with great athletes that like to play up-tempo — and you could feel the playoff series hatred starting to build a little. Both sides will say it’s one game and forgotten now, but they’ll remember just fine if both of them are playing in June.
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celtics bulls tonight 8)
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heat lose to memphis tonight
memphis with 7 players in double figures too
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heat win last night w/o Wade
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I'm hoping Miami gets revenge tonight against Boston
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I'm hoping Miami gets revenge tonight against Boston
i'm not haha
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boston nigga!
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Not too worried about the loss tonight, come playoff time IF Boston makes it to the 2nd round the Heat will handle them
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Not too worried about the loss tonight, come playoff time IF Boston makes it to the 2nd round the Heat will handle them
u better be scared ;)
for the thunder i mean
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I don't understand why they didn't foul boozer with like 5 seconds to go, they were up by 3 if they foul him they most likely win this game smh
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heat won last night w/o Wade
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annnd the heat win
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Today proved why the Knicks are fucked in the playoffs. Melo can't do it all.
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Good win for Miami today, hopefully this gets them going as the playoffs get closer
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Good win for Miami today, hopefully this gets them going as the playoffs get closer
closer to facing my Celtics 8)
not that we have a shot at winning...last year was our last chance imo
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not that we have a shot at winning...last year was our last chance imo
i agree
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not that we have a shot at winning...last year was our last chance imo
i agree
rondo however is our equalizer
he is playing out of his mind the past few weeks
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great performance from Lebron tonight 8) THIS is how he needs to play come playoff time
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THIS is how he needs to play come playoff time
yes
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MVP.
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MVP.
+1
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lebron was the SHIT in the 4th
and you are a PIECE OF SHIT :D
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lebron was the SHIT in the 4th
and you are a PIECE OF SHIT :D
and i got your mom to eat a piece of my shit
she said it tasted good
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lebron was the SHIT in the 4th
and you are a PIECE OF SHIT :D
and i got your mom to eat a piece of my shit
she said it tasted good
the only thing you got is AIDS, straight from your father.
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lebron was the SHIT in the 4th
and you are a PIECE OF SHIT :D
and i got your mom to eat a piece of my shit
she said it tasted good
the only thing you got is AIDS, straight from your father.
lame comeback.
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Today's Games
Minnesota (51%) at Detroit (49%)
Milwaukee (33%) at Indiana (67%)
Chicago (42%) at Miami (58%)
Houston (51%) at New Orleans (49%)
LA Clippers (47%) at Phoenix (53%)
* Estimated win probability in parentheses.
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lakers lose 8)
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Today's Games
New York (40%) at Atlanta (60%)
Sacramento (62%) at Charlotte (38%)
Orlando (37%) at Denver (63%)
Toronto (44%) at Detroit (56%)
New Orleans (25%) at LA Clippers (75%)
Oklahoma City (53%) at LA Lakers (47%)
Houston (26%) at Miami (74%)
Golden State (36%) at Minnesota (64%)
Cleveland (12%) at San Antonio (88%)
* Estimated win probability in parenthese
go clippers
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Today's Games
New York (40%) at Atlanta (60%)
Sacramento (62%) at Charlotte (38%)
Orlando (37%) at Denver (63%)
Toronto (44%) at Detroit (56%)
New Orleans (25%) at LA Clippers (75%)
Oklahoma City (53%) at LA Lakers (47%)
Houston (26%) at Miami (74%)
Golden State (36%) at Minnesota (64%)
Cleveland (12%) at San Antonio (88%)
* Estimated win probability in parenthese
go clippers
who cares basketball is for niggaz
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Today's Games
New York (40%) at Atlanta (60%)
Sacramento (62%) at Charlotte (38%)
Orlando (37%) at Denver (63%)
Toronto (44%) at Detroit (56%)
New Orleans (25%) at LA Clippers (75%)
Oklahoma City (53%) at LA Lakers (47%)
Houston (26%) at Miami (74%)
Golden State (36%) at Minnesota (64%)
Cleveland (12%) at San Antonio (88%)
* Estimated win probability in parenthese
go clippers
who cares basketball is for niggaz
:grumpy:
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you like talking to yourself billy shits sad
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you like talking to yourself billy shits sad
canadian with aids says what
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ronny artest is an ahole
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you like talking to yourself billy shits sad
canadian with aids says what
sad days american cousin fucker basketball is for niggaz
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you like talking to yourself billy shits sad
canadian with aids says what
sad days american cousin fucker basketball is for niggaz
so why don't you like it?
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the Heat would never stoop so low as to try to knock out James Harden to win
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the Heat would never stoop so low as to try to knock out James Harden to win
Are you a Heat fan now Hack? Also, Harden is on the Thunder. Clean hit.
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the Heat would never stoop so low as to try to knock out James Harden to win
Are you a Heat fan now Hack? Also, Harden is on the Thunder. Clean hit.
nope, but you must be a huge Laker fan if you think it was a "Clean hit"
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the Heat would never stoop so low as to try to knock out James Harden to win
Are you a Heat fan now Hack? Also, Harden is on the Thunder. Clean hit.
nope, but you must be a huge Laker fan if you think it was a "Clean hit"
LOL, The Lakers aren't relevant to my feelings towards the Thunder.
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oh okay, so you are Ron ARtest's cousin
gotcha ;)
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celtics win 8)
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you like talking to yourself billy shits sad
canadian with aids says what
sad days american cousin fucker basketball is for niggaz
so why don't you like it?
im not blue berry
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oh
fair enough reason.
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last game of the year yall
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Put aside your Kobe hate for a minute and realize that people will die if the Thunder win it all this year.
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Even though he really should be passed those things, I'm sure Kobe is pissed about this.
and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Put aside your Kobe hate for a minute and realize that people will die if the Thunder win it all this year.
Is it really that bad? The only thing preventing the Thunder to win it all would be yet another LeBrondown or something equally crazed, as in, for example, Kobe or Duncan playing like it's 2007.
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Put aside your Kobe hate for a minute and realize that people will die if the Thunder win it all this year.
like who?
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Even though he really should be passed those things, I'm sure Kobe is pissed about this.
lmao...right. the guy sits out a game against sacramento in which he EASILY coulda won the scoring title, and you still say dicklickin shit like this? durant busted his ass in the final month to win the scoring title, and like a straight g, kobe sits the final game that woulda given him a good chance to take it. pimp move+major slap in the face to durant and every1 who kept claiming kobe was so enthused about that scoring title, when all he really wants is them rings.......
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Even though he really should be passed those things, I'm sure Kobe is pissed about this.
lmao...right. the guy sits out a game against sacramento in which he EASILY coulda won the scoring title, and you still say dicklickin shit like this? durant busted his ass in the final month to win the scoring title, and like a straight g, kobe sits the final game that woulda given him a good chance to take it. pimp move+major slap in the face to durant and every1 who kept claiming kobe was so enthused about that scoring title, when all he really wants is them rings.......
easily won the title? he needed 40 points
not saying he can't get 40 points because we know he can but the way Kobe is shooting this year it's no guarantee
and kobe ain't winning no more rings without Stern's help from another Gasol type trade. and since stern DIDN'T help with Cp3 i don't see it
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and Durant wins the scoring title 8)
Even though he really should be passed those things, I'm sure Kobe is pissed about this.
lmao...right. the guy sits out a game against sacramento in which he EASILY coulda won the scoring title, and you still say dicklickin shit like this? durant busted his ass in the final month to win the scoring title, and like a straight g, kobe sits the final game that woulda given him a good chance to take it. pimp move+major slap in the face to durant and every1 who kept claiming kobe was so enthused about that scoring title, when all he really wants is them rings.......
easily won the title? he needed 40 points
not saying he can't get 40 points because we know he can but the way Kobe is shooting this year it's no guarantee
and kobe ain't winning no more rings without Stern's help from another Gasol type trade. and since stern DIDN'T help with Cp3 i don't see it
he needed 38 points....kobe could get 38 points in a meaningless game against the Kings IN HIS SLEEP. fact of the matter is, he's focused on a different title. durant played oklahoma's last game and kept chuckin' away, even though the game was meaningless. must be feelin foolish as a mufucka right about now.
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i'm not trying to say Kobe can't get 38 points to tie Durant or 39 to win the title
i'm just saying the odds of it aren't 100% like you seem to think they are
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knicks - heat starts in less than 2 hours 8)
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23 points for Lebron in first half, not bad
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http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/7866701/2012-nba-playoffs-chicago-bulls-derrick-rose-injures-knee-philadelphia-76ers
go 76ers lol
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I personally think the Bulls play better without Rose. So as much as I'm happy, it still could go anywhere.
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LeBron is shitting on Melo so hard, it's not even fulfilling to talk about it..
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LeBron is shitting on Melo so hard, it's not even fulfilling to talk about it..
yet i know of a certain jew on here who will swear Melo is better lol
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Rose is officially done for the playoffs
poor guy, i know he has the ambition to win a title but does he have the health?
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d rose
d howard
i shumpert
basically, STAY AWAY FROM ADIDAS
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
Don't jinx it, you son of a bitch
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
Don't jinx it, you son of a bitch
dallas up by 7
game over
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
Don't jinx it, you son of a bitch
dallas up by 7
game over
what i meant to say OKC has dallas right where they want them
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Can't believe Lebron outscored the Knicks starting 5 LOL
Crazy game in OKC, thought the Mavs were going to win that
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
Don't jinx it, you son of a bitch
dallas up by 7
game over
what i meant to say OKC has dallas right where they want them
Nice call Faggot.
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I'm very happy with the first Mavs playoffs game. Looks like this series is going further than "Thunder in 5", contrary to popular faggot belief. Stupid ugly bounce by Durant, won't happen again.
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damn this Thunder team is looking shit-tay so far
Don't jinx it, you son of a bitch
dallas up by 7
game over
what i meant to say OKC has dallas right where they want them
Nice call
8)
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I'm very happy with the first Mavs playoffs game. Looks like this series is going further than "Thunder in 5", contrary to popular faggot belief. Stupid ugly bounce by Durant, won't happen again.
yeah Dallas is no joke
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id say this game series looks about over
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bullshit rondo gettin ejected
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and memphis 4th quarter defense < airport security
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another W for miami but more competitive
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LOL @ Amare, I thought Carmelo was the team's bad decision maker.
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[journalist mode] The MSG is gonna turn this series around! The Knicks are going to win the next two games, since they will play at MSG!!! This series is going to be a CLASSIC!!! [/journalist mode]
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LOL @ Amare, I thought Carmelo was the team's bad decision maker.
hahaha Amare is never gonna live this down
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(http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chris-Bosh-Suspect.gif)
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go celtics!
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Clippers-Grizzlies game 2 tonight at 9:30 8)
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i cant watch the game on tv tonight anyone know where i can stream online?
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http://www.firstrowsports.eu/sport/basketball.html
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The Vegas fix is on in New York.
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i cant watch the game on tv tonight anyone know where i can stream online?
direct link http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/122405/1/watch-new-york-knicks-vs-miami-heat.html
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another easy ass win for the Heat
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LeBron with seventeen in the fourth.
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LeBron with seventeen in the fourth.
MVP, right?
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LeBron with seventeen in the fourth.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=142170.0
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Celtics game 3 tonight 8)
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i know, rondo rules
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CELTICS WON
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oh and Bulls lose too
it'd be AWESOME if it was Heat vs 76ets and Pacers vs CEltics in the 2nd round
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no Noah so it looks like it will be this way, but Hawks could win the series so I won't lose my money :D
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It would be 76ers/Celtics, Heat/Pacers. But yeah.
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It would be 76ers/Celtics, Heat/Pacers. But yeah.
no itd be 76ers / heat and pacers/celtics i think
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It would be 76ers/Celtics, Heat/Pacers. But yeah.
no itd be 76ers / heat and pacers/celtics i think
okay, but ur a known retard....so what u think really doesnt matter
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It would be 76ers/Celtics, Heat/Pacers. But yeah.
no itd be 76ers / heat and pacers/celtics i think
okay, but ur a known retard....so what u think really doesnt matter
says a guy who pays thousands of dollars to a felon to do a single verse??
k
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^Chill. X did a favor for NIK, they go way back.
But the NBA is done in a bracket form, not just high plays low & the two middle guys meet. Heat/Pacers, 76ers/Celtics(Hawks).
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OKC sweeps dallas
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go Celtics tmrw 8)
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Rajon Rondo > your teams point guard
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wade should have passed to bosh when amare switched....bosh had a great look on that roll with fields on him down low
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miami shoulda ended the game with a Bron shot not Wade
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
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i bet the series ends tonight
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go celtics 8)
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
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celtics and nuggets won 8)
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lol @ the lakers being such pussies 8)
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Clippers - Grizz in 30 minutes
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
learn to speak and write in a different language billy before you talk you maine chunk
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
learn to speak and write in a different language billy before you talk you maine chunk
maine > canada
any day of the week 8)
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congats to Miami's Lebron James on his 3rd MVP award
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some1, lock this thread....the sadness of this is getting way out of hand
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No need to lock it but I can rename it to "official NBA thread" or something, since it's not Miami orientated.
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No need to lock it but I can rename it to "official NBA thread" or something, since it's not Miami orientated.
You should probably do that. Hack (and Cham) ruined this thread by turning it into their own basketball blog. :laugh:
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why change this shit?
just keep the title the same
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No need to lock it but I can rename it to "official NBA thread" or something, since it's not Miami orientated.
name it to "hack+cham's basketball thoughts" or somethin else that matches the content inside.
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why change this shit?
just keep the title the same
It has little or nothing to do with the Heat. It's more of a general NBA discussion thread. I'm gonna wait until tomorrow, so that everybody can voice their opinion.
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why change this shit?
just keep the title the same
It has little or nothing to do with the Heat. It's more of a general NBA discussion thread. I'm gonna wait until tomorrow, so that everybody can voice their opinion.
u dont need to wait...it's obviously not a heat thread. it's just hack's personal basketball blog with cham checkin in every once in a while to show his support. would be pretty ridiculous to keep the title.
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Heat play Sunday at 3:30 by the way
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
learn to speak and write in a different language billy before you talk you maine chunk
maine > canada
any day of the week 8)
lol maine aint got shit but retards there give it up crack
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
learn to speak and write in a different language billy before you talk you maine chunk
maine > canada
any day of the week 8)
lol maine aint got shit but retards there give it up crack
your country ain't shit:
(http://www.bumperstickerz.com/images/10000286-01-00-00-00_lg.png)
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whos ready for NBA playoff action today?
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watching shitty web stream (it's not that bad) of the game and hoping that Grizzlies get the W
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with out chris bosh miami wont win this series against the pacers
pacers got 2 much size for ronny t and haslam and u cant expect Bron n Wade to play lights out every game for 4 quarters. shits 2 hard.
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shitty maine doesnt have a basketball team :-X what sport do you lames play in maine
ice fishing, duh
whats the name of the team the maine imbreeds
says a guy from Canada?
learn to spell Inbred btw, you douche.
learn to speak and write in a different language billy before you talk you maine chunk
maine > canada
any day of the week 8)
lol maine aint got shit but retards there give it up crack
your country ain't shit:
(http://www.bumperstickerz.com/images/10000286-01-00-00-00_lg.png)
same old jokes maine doesnt have any teams in any sport end of story billy
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fugly loss for the Heat tonight
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anyone think the Heat win tonight?
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miami with 10 straight field goals
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is Wade even in the building tonight? haha
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Chalmers is playing like D-wade tonight!
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dope play by Lebron to tie the game
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wade gobbles dick so far... big time. nigga is gettin old quick..
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wade gobbles dick so far... big time. nigga is gettin old quick..
100% agreed
still a top notch SG but it's a JOKE that people used to try to compare him to Lebron as a player
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heat are getting RAPED in this 2nd half
where's NIK? he loves to pile on Cham's team haha
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I'm eager to see what the Heat do if they get bounced by the Pacers. They will have to do something.. right?
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im thinkin the heat are dead now
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they will trade wade
lebron just won his 3rd MVP in 4 seasons, no way they are gonna move him. i think we'll see wade moved somewhere which enables miami to pickup a center and pg or sf (or some combination of that)
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Wade is declining as he's losing his athleticism , nobody should be surprised about that... I still think they will advance , I doubt Indy abilities to close out this series when they have the opportunity
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Wade is declining as he's losing his athleticism , nobody should be surprised about that... I still think they will advance , I doubt Indy abilities to close out this series when they have the opportunity
i'm more worried about the celtics facing the pacers than the bosh-less Heat now haha
injuries = the worst thing about sports
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im thinkin the heat are dead now
Not yet. Stern & the refs hate the pacers. They got screwed outta 3 finals appearances cause the nba is all about the major markets >:( 94, 98, & 99. Didn't include 95 cause it was the magic's year in the finals anyway. I was told that the refs did some big time cheating for the bulls against the pacers last year. Don't be surprised if the crooked refs make sure the heat win game 4. Now if the celtics & pacers meet in the conf. finals will be interesting cause stern hates the celtics too.
Wade is declining as he's losing his athleticism , nobody should be surprised about that... I still think they will advance , I doubt Indy abilities to close out this series when they have the opportunity
injuries = the worst thing about sports
Ain't that the truth!
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im thinkin the heat are dead now
Not yet. Stern & the refs hate the pacers. They got screwed outta 3 finals appearances cause the nba is all about the major markets >:( 94, 98, & 99. Didn't include 95 cause it was the magic's year in the finals anyway. I was told that the refs did some big time cheating for the bulls against the pacers last year. Don't be surprised if the crooked refs make sure the heat win game 4. Now if the celtics & pacers meet in the conf. finals will be interesting cause stern hates the celtics too.
Wade is declining as he's losing his athleticism , nobody should be surprised about that... I still think they will advance , I doubt Indy abilities to close out this series when they have the opportunity
injuries = the worst thing about sports
Ain't that the truth!
Stern loves the Celtics for ratings I'd imagine
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good game so far at the half
Bron is keeping Miami in it, Wade sucks again (wtf?)
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Wade is a different player in the second half. let's see if Lebron gets the triple double
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Wade is a different player in the second half. let's see if Lebron gets the triple double
40 points and 18 rebounds, 9 assists!
god damn what a game by Bron...minus that airball LOL
Wade hit like 10 shots in a row at one point!
and Haslem was biggest of all in the 4th hitting those clutch shots when Bron and Wade were covered
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some of those passes by LeBron were for the ages. statline is ridiculous.. imagine another player having a statsline like this, it would probably be one of his best games ever. for lebron it was more like business as usual, noone even really appreciates it... that's how sick shit is.
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Holy shit lol.
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some of those passes by LeBron were for the ages. statline is ridiculous.. imagine another player having a statsline like this, it would probably be one of his best games ever. for lebron it was more like business as usual, noone even really appreciates it... that's how sick shit is.
exactly
if NIK comes in and reads this he's gonna be like "WELL DID U SEE THOSE 13 MISSED SHOTS?"
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players react to Lebron
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14329/nba-players-react-to-lebrons-historic-game
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i see the Heat finishing things out tonight
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they should. does Rondo still have that double digit assists streak going?
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they should. does Rondo still have that double digit assists streak going?
nah, because he only had 8 in a game in round 1 lol
but it's alive starting next regular season
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Well looking on sportscenter, the Pacers received lotsa karma for their thug behavior :) Granger got injured, Tyler Hansborough got hit for his hit on wade & the woman beater Lance Stephenson got hit hard too. I hope his older ex[she better be ex] got to see that he got his finally. Not many know this but nearly 2 years ago Lance slammed his then older gf's head on something then pushed her down some stairs months after he was drafted.
You'd think Tyler would be compassionate of others, you know cause when he was with NC he was a victim of a thug hit by a Puke player.
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Well looking on sportscenter, the Pacers received lotsa karma for their thug behavior :) Granger got injured, Tyler Hansborough got hit for his hit on wade & the woman beater Lance Stephenson got hit hard too. I hope his older ex[she better be ex] got to see that he got his finally. Not many know this but nearly 2 years ago Lance slammed his then older gf's head on something then pushed her down some stairs months after he was drafted.
damn what a scumbag
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elano is gay btw
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crack wilson is deformed
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
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Haslem got suspended one game for his hit on Tyler Hansboro
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
all i see is me and your naked wife
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
all i see is me and your naked wife
ha ha thats funny billy bob my wifes in shitty maine :-X
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
all i see is me and your naked wife
ha ha thats funny billy bob my wifes in shitty maine :-X
maine > canada
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
all i see is me and your naked wife
ha ha thats funny billy bob my wifes in shitty maine :-X
maine > canada
keep telling yourself that billy boy :)
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crack wilson is deformed
never heard of him
look in the mirror dummy
all i see is me and your naked wife
ha ha thats funny billy bob my wifes in shitty maine :-X
maine > canada
keep telling yourself that billy boy :)
your wife even agrees
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dumb wilson is deformed
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hey it's my fanclub
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hey i'm retarded
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love you too Elano :)
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i'm more retarded than nik
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love you too Elano :)
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my father is so delusional
and i'm more of a mentalcase than my mother
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love you too Elano :)
4ever <3
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alone-o, i hear your tears.
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sorry everybody but i'm DUMB wilson
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sorry everybody but i'm DUMB wilson
you didn't even know dumb had a b in it until it showed up on your english translation euroboy
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you didn't even know that my father is dumber than me
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alone-o, i hear your tears.
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love you too Elano :)
4ever <3
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i'm an attention whore
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we know you are, that's why you keep going back and forth with me Alone-o.
so the Heat play Thursday night, i say they close it out
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sorry guys but i'm an idiot just like my father
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sorry guys but i'm an idiot just like my father
wow, i'm so hurt.
Elano, why won't you talk basketball with us?
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elano do u see the Pacers winning game 6??
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it looks like there's no nba games scheduled for Friday? Celtics-76ers go Saturday and I don't see the Heat/Pacers going back to back for game 7
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:loopaper:
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:loopaper:
how come you don't want to talk sports Elano?
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:-X
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do you think Miami has any shot without Haslem tonight Elano?
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I say the Heat somehow pull off a win tonight without Bosh and Haslem but it won't be easy
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smh@battier airballing 2 threes lol.
what's up with wade's free-throw shooting? nigga cant shoot for shit
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smh@battier airballing 2 threes lol.
what's up with wade's free-throw shooting? nigga cant shoot for shit
lol...u a lebron fan and u callin out some1's free throws?
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smh@battier airballing 2 threes lol.
what's up with wade's free-throw shooting? nigga cant shoot for shit
lol...u a lebron fan and u callin out some1's free throws?
it is not the same... FTs are the weakest part of lebron's game... whereas wade is a rather good FT shooter normally, but for no apparent reason complete ass during these playoffs..
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smh@battier airballing 2 threes lol.
what's up with wade's free-throw shooting? nigga cant shoot for shit
lol...u a lebron fan and u callin out some1's free throws?
it is not the same... FTs are the weakest part of lebron's game... whereas wade is a rather good FT shooter normally, but for no apparent reason complete ass during these playoffs..
he's an above average ft shooter, but never really been great from the line.
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wade carrying the heat right now
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i guess i was wrong bout the pacers beatin the heat w.o bosh but they aint winnin the title w.o him
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i guess i was wrong bout the pacers beatin the heat w.o bosh but they aint winnin the title w.o him
bosh is expected to be back soon. they even said he might play in a game 7, although that was probably just trashtalk
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Heat + Celtics is a tight match-up.....i got the Heat in 5 or 6
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oh shit! which bandwagon is hack wilson gonna be on for the heat-celtics matchup?
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oh shit! which bandwagon is hack wilson gonna be on for the heat-celtics matchup?
lmao
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I don't know how this series will go. Likely without Bosh, that's tough. Against the Pacers, yeah whatever, those two can dominate. But this is a real team. Allen needs to be checked for cancer or something. Something is just wrong with that dude recently lol.
If Bron & Wade aren't both consistently having 30 & 30 games each, Celtics could realistically win this in five or six.
Bron & Wade go off, Heat in six.
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legendary game by rondo, wtf is going on with this nigga? suddenly he can stroke it like the best of em? like really, wtf?!
there's no chance the celtics are winning this series... they left everything they had out there and still lost, game over for them
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legendary game by rondo, wtf is going on with this nigga? suddenly he can stroke it like the best of em? like really, wtf?!
there's no chance the celtics are winning this series... they left everything they had out there and still lost, game over for them
did u catch lebron chokin again, though? be honest.. shit is gettin beyond sad. he's now 2-14 fgs on game-tying/go-ahead shots in the final :24 seconds of the past 2 seasons. DAMN. miami would definitely be down 0-2 right now if they were playin the Spurs.
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any team would be down 0-2 if it were playing the spurs. i wouldn't just call it chokin. contested jumpshots or free-throws are not his strength, plus the heat offense tends to be stagnant and pathetic in those situations. spoelstra is quite mike brownesque sometimes. wonder what he would do if he ever, EVER had a good or at least decent coach. not to mention someone like jackson or popovich. either way, lebron tends to suck in those situations, but part of it is to blame on a) the coach for never running a gangsta play and just putting out pathetic & awkward isos and b) lebron's skillset not fitting those situations, as he can't drive because he's afraid to get fouled (FTs weakest part of his game) and can't comfortably shoot as he's not the greatest jump-shooter. it's not JUST choking. choking could be said of someone who shoots 88% from the line, then misses on last possession FTs. or someone like durant missing jumpers all the time. with james, it's just not his forté. nigga needs to have some plays ran for him. those awkward isos with him just waiting till the clock expires then running for an uncomfortable contested 18-footer that everybody knows is coming just sucks ass.
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any team would be down 0-2 if it were playing the spurs. i wouldn't just call it chokin. contested jumpshots or free-throws are not his strength, plus the heat offense tends to be stagnant and pathetic in those situations. spoelstra is quite mike brownesque sometimes. wonder what he would do if he ever, EVER had a good or at least decent coach. not to mention someone like jackson or popovich. either way, lebron tends to suck in those situations, but part of it is to blame on a) the coach for never running a gangsta play and just putting out pathetic & awkward isos and b) lebron's skillset not fitting those situations, as he can't drive because he's afraid to get fouled (FTs weakest part of his game) and can't comfortably shoot as he's not the greatest jump-shooter. it's not JUST choking. choking could be said of someone who shoots 88% from the line, then misses on last possession FTs. or someone like durant missing jumpers all the time. with james, it's just not his forté. nigga needs to have some plays ran for him. those awkward isos with him just waiting till the clock expires then running for an uncomfortable contested 18-footer that everybody knows is coming just sucks ass.
forget the free throws, shooting a fadeaway jumpshot from 20+ feet out over rondo is pretty damn pathetic, no way around that.. and missing that lay-up in the same sequence, as well. u said choking is someone who shoots a high percentage, then misses on the last possession. well, LeBron shoots 53% on fgs. he shoots 2-14 in the last 24 seconds of a game for go-ahead/game-tying baskets since he's been in Miami. THATS 14%! disgustin shit.
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What I'd like to know Seven, since the 4th game of Indiana series, do you still think that Lebron is saving Wade's ass, as you've put it ? I think it's quite clear who is the go to guy when it comes to making baskets when it matters.
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What I'd like to know Seven, since the 4th game of Indiana series, do you still think that Lebron is saving Wade's ass, as you've put it ? I think it's quite clear who is the go to guy when it comes to making baskets when it matters.
only that wade is not all that great either. if wade really was that good, he'd simply be the guy to shoot in those situations, like, all the time. he isn't. he missed a bunch of "clutch" FTs, he has no range. plus bron is the type of nigga who can secretly dominate a game without scoring much, wheras wade or kobe are more the type of niggas who have to score to dominate.
fact is this: if wade and bron switched skins in the same game, niggas would still shit more on bron than they do on wade. lebron is probably the most over-scrutinized athlete of all time. there has never been a black athlete so hated on by blacks, even though there's been black athletes who were murderers, rapists, thugs, drug abusers... well, flat out niggers. still they were backed by the black community. but lebron gets shitted on by anyone, despite being a friendly, law-abiding person. isn't this kind of sick?
any team would be down 0-2 if it were playing the spurs. i wouldn't just call it chokin. contested jumpshots or free-throws are not his strength, plus the heat offense tends to be stagnant and pathetic in those situations. spoelstra is quite mike brownesque sometimes. wonder what he would do if he ever, EVER had a good or at least decent coach. not to mention someone like jackson or popovich. either way, lebron tends to suck in those situations, but part of it is to blame on a) the coach for never running a gangsta play and just putting out pathetic & awkward isos and b) lebron's skillset not fitting those situations, as he can't drive because he's afraid to get fouled (FTs weakest part of his game) and can't comfortably shoot as he's not the greatest jump-shooter. it's not JUST choking. choking could be said of someone who shoots 88% from the line, then misses on last possession FTs. or someone like durant missing jumpers all the time. with james, it's just not his forté. nigga needs to have some plays ran for him. those awkward isos with him just waiting till the clock expires then running for an uncomfortable contested 18-footer that everybody knows is coming just sucks ass.
forget the free throws, shooting a fadeaway jumpshot from 20+ feet out over rondo is pretty damn pathetic, no way around that.. and missing that lay-up in the same sequence, as well. u said choking is someone who shoots a high percentage, then misses on the last possession. well, LeBron shoots 53% on fgs. he shoots 2-14 in the last 24 seconds of a game for go-ahead/game-tying baskets since he's been in Miami. THATS 14%! disgustin shit.
part of this is to blame on the coaching, they simply have zero plays called in those situations. it's always iso for a nigga and see what happens. not even fucking high screen lol. it's beyond pathetic. plus, those numbers can be deceiving. durant actually has terrible numbers in that statistic, but noone would call him horrible after all those highly-publicized last second game-winners.
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fact is this: if wade and bron switched skins in the same game, niggas would still shit more on bron than they do on wade. lebron is probably the most over-scrutinized athlete of all time. there has never been a black athlete so hated on by blacks, even though there's been black athletes who were murderers, rapists, thugs, drug abusers... well, flat out niggers. still they were backed by the black community. but lebron gets shitted on by anyone, despite being a friendly, law-abiding person. isn't this kind of sick?
faggots get less respect than murderers, thugs, drug abusers, etc....lebron is a straight up queer who likes to prance around the court and dance all fruity in warm-ups, if u wanna talk about "sick". he talks back to his mom and looks like he is about to cry when the refs call a foul he dont like. diva is the word...his personality is not friendly/humble, it's overly egotistical, and he gives off the vibe of a bitch-made female. really hilarious how u dont see why peeps dislike him.
part of this is to blame on the coaching, they simply have zero plays called in those situations. it's always iso for a nigga and see what happens. not even fucking high screen lol. it's beyond pathetic. plus, those numbers can be deceiving. durant actually has terrible numbers in that statistic, but noone would call him horrible after all those highly-publicized last second game-winners.
blame it on the coaching staff all u want, but 2-14 is despicable, and u know it.
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lol @ NIK flashing stats, when under the same circumstances, Kobe is 0-9 since 2008.
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lol @ NIK flashing stats, when under the same circumstances, Kobe is 0-9 since 2008.
thats a lie...lmfao. kobe made 8 game winners in 2009, ya dumb bitch
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lol @ NIK flashing stats, when under the same circumstances, Kobe is 0-9 since 2008.
thats a lie...lmfao. kobe made 8 game winners in 2009, ya dumb bitch
Playoffs, boiiii. When it counts. ;)
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lol @ NIK flashing stats, when under the same circumstances, Kobe is 0-9 since 2008.
thats a lie...lmfao. kobe made 8 game winners in 2009, ya dumb bitch
Playoffs, boiiii. When it counts. ;)
Not true.. Kobe was extremely clutch in our two championship runs
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^^^^^ Like in his game 7 against Boston? Or when he hit the winning shot against OKC? Or what about that other winner he hit?
Oh wait, he sucked in game 7 against Boston, admitted he was nervous. Artest had a huge putback to win that game against OKC, and GASOL had another major putback to win the other.
So calling Kobe "extremely" clutch doesn't exactly fit, does it? Sure, he played well. But extremely clutch? Not exactly.
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^^^^^ Like in his game 7 against Boston? Or when he hit the winning shot against OKC? Or what about that other winner he hit?
Oh wait, he sucked in game 7 against Boston, admitted he was nervous. Artest had a huge putback to win that game against OKC, and GASOL had another major putback to win the other.
So calling Kobe "extremely" clutch doesn't exactly fit, does it? Sure, he played well. But extremely clutch? Not exactly.
Lmao, Kobe held the 4th quarters down against phoenix, OKC and Boston during that run.. That game 7 against Boston was purely a defensive matchup, everyone shot a low percentage because of the amazing defense./ the focus of th game was defense and rebounding, and Kobe grabbed 15 boards + shut down the perimeter.
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Wowzers
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NIK only Ray Allen shot worse in game 7 from either team...and I notice how you ignored artest and gasol putting in Kobe misses. Like I said, Kobe played well, but he was not, as you say "extremely clutch"
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The Sports section is a lot less active without Hack talking to himself in this thread.
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NIK only Ray Allen shot worse in game 7 from either team...and I notice how you ignored artest and gasol putting in Kobe misses. Like I said, Kobe played well, but he was not, as you say "extremely clutch"
like i said, that series revolved around defense, which made for bad shooting all around...90% of the focus was defense and rebounding, and kobe went all out. and i didnt ignore anything, the putbacks were big, but clutch is not only the final shot of the game.. like i said, kobe held down those 4th quarters to even have the lakers in that situation=clutch
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"Holding it down" is subjective. Believe what
You want but don't try to pass it off as gospel. According to you Kobe ain't never done a thing to be faulted for?
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"Holding it down" is subjective. Believe what
You want but don't try to pass it off as gospel. According to you Kobe ain't never done a thing to be faulted for?
not true...nobody's perfect
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I'd take Harden over Wade at this point. Sad shit.
Cluuuutch by LeBron. Wonder how Skip Bayless is going to spin that one.
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I'd take Harden over Wade at this point. Sad shit.
Cluuuutch by LeBron. Wonder how Skip Bayless is going to spin that one.
clutch what? brickin vital free-throws at the end? lmao. this shits embarrassin'...lebron is so horrible on final possessions that everyone in miami is already scared 2 give him the ball in those situations.
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I'd take Harden over Wade at this point. Sad shit.
Cluuuutch by LeBron. Wonder how Skip Bayless is going to spin that one.
clutch what? brickin vital free-throws at the end? lmao. this shits embarrassin'...lebron is so horrible on final possessions that everyone in miami is already scared 2 give him the ball in those situations.
he's bricking FTs all the time, get over it. nigga hit his only real jumpshot from behind the 3pt line with 34 seconds on the clock wide open. clutch shit. the more you are open, the more clutch it gets.. cause you have more space to overthink it
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lol @ NIK flashing stats, when under the same circumstances, Kobe is 0-9 since 2008.
thats a lie...lmfao. kobe made 8 game winners in 2009, ya dumb bitch
Playoffs, boiiii. When it counts. ;)
Not true.. Kobe was extremely clutch in our two championship runs
Well the whole fourth quarter doesn't count. Just the last 24 seconds apparently. ;)
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I'd take Harden over Wade at this point. Sad shit.
Cluuuutch by LeBron. Wonder how Skip Bayless is going to spin that one.
clutch what? brickin vital free-throws at the end? lmao. this shits embarrassin'...lebron is so horrible on final possessions that everyone in miami is already scared 2 give him the ball in those situations.
he's bricking FTs all the time, get over it. nigga hit his only real jumpshot from behind the 3pt line with 34 seconds on the clock wide open. clutch shit. the more you are open, the more clutch it gets.. cause you have more space to overthink it
That 3 he hit was pretty damn clutch.
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Stephen A. Smith made a decent point for guys like Skip Bayless, aka herbs like NIK.
When looking at LeBron they would hold the fourth quarter against him, when he started scoring, they started saying the "final five minutes of the fourth", when he started scoring then, they said the "last two minutes", that turned to the "last minute", now that he hit a shot with thirty-seven seconds left you'll hear, "Oh, he ain't clutch in the final thirty-six second of a game".
I'm not a big fan of the term "hater", but that's just blatant hating. When son can't do no right in your eyes & you'll say whatever because to see him succeed just eats at you alive.
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yea, the 3 was good, but missing free throws which woulda iced the game make it impossible to refer to him as clutch, in regards to that game.. u cant be "half clutch". u either close the deal, or ya dont.
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Stephen A. Smith made a decent point for guys like Skip Bayless, aka herbs like NIK.
When looking at LeBron they would hold the fourth quarter against him, when he started scoring, they started saying the "final five minutes of the fourth", when he started scoring then, they said the "last two minutes", that turned to the "last minute", now that he hit a shot with thirty-seven seconds left you'll hear, "Oh, he ain't clutch in the final thirty-six second of a game".
I'm not a big fan of the term "hater", but that's just blatant hating. When son can't do no right in your eyes & you'll say whatever because to see him succeed just eats at you alive.
Certain people will always shit on LeBron, literally no matter what he does or how good he plays. When LeBron had that great game 1 vs. the Celtics, Bayless went on for minutes trashing him because he showboated against the trashtalking KG. On some ESPN poll that has 14 players on the ballot, one can rank each one of them on how well they have performed in the playoffs. LeBron has twice as many #1 votes as Durant, but still comes 2nd, because a bunch of haters voted him #14. He's more hated than Kobe ever was.
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^Na, the funniest Bayless moment was after LeBron in Game 4 against the Pacers when he had 40, 18 & 9 & Bayless sat there with a straight face & said Wade easily had a better game.
Stephen A. Smith nearly walked off the set lmaooo.
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^Na, the funniest Bayless moment was after LeBron in Game 4 against the Pacers when he had 40, 18 & 9 & Bayless sat there with a straight face & said Wade easily had a better game.
Stephen A. Smith nearly walked off the set lmaooo.
LOL. I missed that. That's too much, he's making it too obvious now. It's so out of line that it doesn't even push buttons anymore. Kinda like saying Rudy Gay had a better playoff run than LeBron or something.
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^Na, the funniest Bayless moment was after LeBron in Game 4 against the Pacers when he had 40, 18 & 9 & Bayless sat there with a straight face & said Wade easily had a better game.
Stephen A. Smith nearly walked off the set lmaooo.
LOL. I missed that. That's too much, he's making it too obvious now. It's so out of line that it doesn't even push buttons anymore. Kinda like saying Rudy Gay had a better playoff run than LeBron or something.
Then he tries to "validate" himself by saying "Well, I'm holding him to the absolute high grade possible". Yet 40, 18 & 9 just isn't cutting it for Baseless.
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
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Would you trade LeBron for Dwight if you're Pat Riley?
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Would you trade LeBron for Dwight if you're Pat Riley?
Wade for Dwight.
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
fuck hack wilson, bandwagon ass fan
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
fuck hack wilson, bandwagon ass fan
saying your team has no chance does not equal bandwagon fandom
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
which team...miami or boston?
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
fuck hack wilson, bandwagon ass fan
saying your team has no chance does not equal bandwagon fandom
no, but being a fan of the phoenix suns, then new york knicks, then boston celtics, then miami heat does..
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
which team...miami or boston?
LOL, I hate to shit on the guy that hasn't posted here in the last few weeks but I'll do it anyway. I mean, it was bad enough to start waving the white flag regardless of the situation, let alone now when it looks like his team is actually the better one.
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SMH @ Hack saying his Celtics stood no chance against Miami. He's not allowed to follow that team anymore lol
which team...miami or boston?
LOL, I hate to shit on the guy that hasn't posted here in the last few weeks but I'll do it anyway. I mean, it was bad enough to start waving the white flag regardless of the situation, let alone now when it looks like his team is actually the better one.
it's funny...because i thought all along that boston had a shot at the finals. and i HATE them. can u imagine what it's like to be a fan of a contending team and not have any faith behind them? thats probably how he lives his whole life, which is why he seems like a total retard with no brain of his own.
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He's a Jets & Giants fan. That's kinda annoying lol.
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^ Lol the convenient football picks, I actually forgot about that one. C'mon Hack, come in here and stand up for your honor.
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Hack got banned with Elano over a week ago lol.
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Hack got banned with Elano over a week ago lol.
No shit? Lol I thought it had been a while since he'd posted but I didn't hear any of that.
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Hack's a front-runner, no doubt. Although in his defense, being from Maine, it's kinda tough. Being a Celtics and Red Sox fan would make the most sense I guess... but those teams really weren't good on a consistant basis back when he was a kid. Kids are even bigger front-runners.
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Hack's a front-runner, no doubt. Although in his defense, being from Maine, it's kinda tough. Being a Celtics and Red Sox fan would make the most sense I guess... but those teams really weren't good on a consistant basis back when he was a kid. Kids are even bigger front-runners.
Everybody from that New Hampshire/Vermont/Maine area are Celtic/Redsox fans.
Somehow he loves the Yankees, but then fucks with the Celtics. Then chooses both New York teams over the Patriots. It's such a strange combination.
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Heat take it tonite :scarface:
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Hack's a front-runner, no doubt. Although in his defense, being from Maine, it's kinda tough. Being a Celtics and Red Sox fan would make the most sense I guess... but those teams really weren't good on a consistant basis back when he was a kid. Kids are even bigger front-runners.
Everybody from that New Hampshire/Vermont/Maine area are Celtic/Redsox fans.
Somehow he loves the Yankees, but then fucks with the Celtics. Then chooses both New York teams over the Patriots. It's such a strange combination.
it's not strange...he's just the definition of a bandwaggon fan. he hops on whichever team is good...when the suns had barkley and were contenders, he was a suns fan. when the knicks contended and had ewing, he was a knicks fan. when the celtics acquired the big three, he converted to a celtics fan...when the celtics big three seemed like they were getting old, and the heat got the newest big three, he became a closet heat fan. pretty funny stuff.
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I have no words. No words could ever do justice describing the greatness of LeBron James given the context of this game. Win or go home game? On the road? In Boston? With the wholre world eager to shit on you? And you put up THAT kind of performance? ...
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my dad raised me to be a Jets, Giants and Yankees fan
he tried to get me into the Mets and Notre Dame too but neither of those teams ever stuck
my dad stopped watching basketball a good 10+ years ago so that's how I became a Celtic fan. I used to root for whoever my dad watched.
even weirder, I have an uncle who's been a Yankees/Patriots fan since the 1970s! he lucked out recently but the Pats were a laughing stock for most of his life.
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I have no words. No words could ever do justice describing the greatness of LeBron James given the context of this game. Win or go home game? On the road? In Boston? With the wholre world eager to shit on you? And you put up THAT kind of performance? ...
he did aight tonight lol
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Holy shit.
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lmao
Lebron had the best game of his life. 19 of 26 shooting! so many tough shots. amazing....but it makes me sick to my stomach that we gotta play game 7 in Miami now
go boston
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I have no words. No words could ever do justice describing the greatness of LeBron James given the context of this game. Win or go home game? On the road? In Boston? With the wholre world eager to shit on you? And you put up THAT kind of performance? ...
Great performance by Lebron. But what else is new ? This was nothing new from him. He was also beasting in the last years playoffs UNTIL finals. The Miami are gonna take game 7 easily too, you can see where the trend is going; young and energetic teams are shitting on the old ones. We all know where Miami and Boston belong.
The question is, how will Lebron play in the finals.
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I have no words. No words could ever do justice describing the greatness of LeBron James given the context of this game. Win or go home game? On the road? In Boston? With the wholre world eager to shit on you? And you put up THAT kind of performance? ...
Great performance by Lebron. But what else is new ? This was nothing new from him. He was also beasting in the last years playoffs UNTIL finals. The Miami are gonna take game 7 easily too, you can see where the trend is going; young and energetic teams are shitting on the old ones. We all know where Miami and Boston belong.
The question is, how will Lebron play in the finals.
The pressure situation was as big as in any game he has ever played in, including the Finals.
You can't just expect him to beat any team no matter how much better it is. The Thunder are simply much better than the current Heat, even if he puts up historic numbers again. Bosh is hurt and Wade only shows up for 1-2 quarters per game, while Miller is trash and Haslem has to play center.
It's like, can you really blame him for getting swept in 2007? No, the Spurs were simply a much, much, much better team than the Cavs back then.
OKC has got this, unless they blow it.
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i know Doc isn't gonna let us go down without a fight
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can't wait for tmrw night dammit
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Probably the greatest game ever played lol.
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Probably the greatest game ever played lol.
Barkley once had a 48 point 24 rebound game in the playoffs
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Probably the greatest game ever played lol.
LOL, just stop it already.
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maybe not the greatest but historic
Players with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds, 5 assists in NBA playoff history
Player Date Opponent Pts Reb Ast FG pct.
Wilt Chamberlain April 10, 1964 St. Louis Hawks 50 15 6 68.8
LeBron James June 7, 2012 Boston Celtics 45 15 5 73.1
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Given the context, it's really up there with the very greatest games in NBA history.
Make no mistake, no player in the history of the sport has ever been hold to higher standards. No player had a lesser margin for error. It was a close-out game in the city in which he had his most heart-breaking losses in. Bosh was hurt and of no real help. Wade was never showing up for more than 1-2 quarters. He had no center on his team. The most important role player was never showing up. People already made scenarios of breaking up the Heat. 90% of basketball consumers were eager to watch LeBron fail under pressure, eager to see him "choke", eager to make jokes about him, eager to gain pleasure over another man's failure.
And he came out and played like that.
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Given the context, it's really up there with the very greatest games in NBA history.
Make no mistake, no player in the history of the sport has ever been hold to higher standards. No player had a lesser margin for error. It was a close-out game in the city in which he had his most heart-breaking losses in. Bosh was hurt and of no real help. Wade was never showing up for more than 1-2 quarters. He had no center on his team. The most important role player was never showing up. People already made scenarios of breaking up the Heat. 90% of basketball consumers were eager to watch LeBron fail under pressure, eager to see him "choke", eager to make jokes about him, eager to gain pleasure over another man's failure.
And he came out and played like that.
lmfao.....are u fucking joking me? the thunder woulda SWEPT the celtics.
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Given the context, it's really up there with the very greatest games in NBA history.
Make no mistake, no player in the history of the sport has ever been hold to higher standards. No player had a lesser margin for error. It was a close-out game in the city in which he had his most heart-breaking losses in. Bosh was hurt and of no real help. Wade was never showing up for more than 1-2 quarters. He had no center on his team. The most important role player was never showing up. People already made scenarios of breaking up the Heat. 90% of basketball consumers were eager to watch LeBron fail under pressure, eager to see him "choke", eager to make jokes about him, eager to gain pleasure over another man's failure.
And he came out and played like that.
lmfao.....are u fucking joking me? the thunder woulda SWEPT the celtics.
Absolutely irrelevant.
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Given the context, it's really up there with the very greatest games in NBA history.
Make no mistake, no player in the history of the sport has ever been hold to higher standards. No player had a lesser margin for error. It was a close-out game in the city in which he had his most heart-breaking losses in. Bosh was hurt and of no real help. Wade was never showing up for more than 1-2 quarters. He had no center on his team. The most important role player was never showing up. People already made scenarios of breaking up the Heat. 90% of basketball consumers were eager to watch LeBron fail under pressure, eager to see him "choke", eager to make jokes about him, eager to gain pleasure over another man's failure.
And he came out and played like that.
lmfao.....are u fucking joking me? the thunder woulda SWEPT the celtics.
Absolutely irrelevant.
not at all...it was a great game by lebron, but everyone knows he can have a great game. and against a team he was supposed to slaughter to begin with. the knock on lebron was never about not being able to put up amazing stats, but rather that he isn't clutch and cant perform down the stretch in tight games. there were no tight situations in Game 6, cuz it was a blow out. so it didn't really put lebron to the test as far as clutch factor and execution down the stretch goes...unless the heat can blow out every game the rest of the way, lebron WILL be faced with pressure again, and that will be the true test.
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But the special thing is that for the first time in his career, many people were ready to simply give up on him. Many people were openly talking about blowing up the Heat, making up potential trades. For a team that was favored to win several in a row initially, that's the ultimate failure. LeBron wasn't just playing to force a Game 7, he was playing for his career. If he put up a stinker and the Heat lose, Durant is the league's biggest star from then on, no question about it. You and I both know you were sitting in front of the screen all excited hoping to see the ultimate LeBron failure only to come on and talk shit. Not just you, but millions of other people. And LeBron was absolutely aware of that matter. It'snot like he randomly got hot at a convenient time... he was zoned in before tip-off. He had that mean stare, that non-gigglyness that is so not typical for him even before the game started. He knew exactly what was on the line. It was in TD Garden, the place of his nightmares. And he still pulled it off tremendously. It might not be the kind of clutchness that his biggest critics always refer to, but it was definitely grace under pressure and more.
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lebron was 19/26 and took some VERY tough shots
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It was a great game.. He still has a whole lot to prove. I'll leave it at that.
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Enough of talking about the Thunder. The Thunder are hands down a far better team than the Heat.
Nick Collison would be the 4th best player on Miami. He's "solid" off the bench for the Thunder.
Wade & LeBron = Top ten.
Durant & Westbrook = Top ten.
Bosh & Harden = second tier all-stars.
Everybody else on the Thunder >>> *more than you can imagine* >>> Everybody else on the Heat.
Not that the Heat can't beat the Thunder, but it's not even close how much more depth & size the Thunder have. Basketball is a team sport at the end of the day & Wade is playing like ass right now. Hence why LeBron keeps saying in his press conferences "I'm going to go out there & play my game & I'll walk away from it with no regrets". He knows he's going to put up 30 & & 9 with assists. But he can't control Miller & Battier going a combined 2-13 from three, Wade shooting his 25% in the first half of every game & Bosh being a hurt.
While Durant has Ibaka, Perkins & Collison going 22-25 from the field, with Harden & Westbrook playing well.
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Boston will win game 7. Mark my words.
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Boston will win game 7. Mark my words.
i hope
at this point I give the odds 60% miami 40% boston because it's in Miami :(
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8)
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It was a great game.. He still has a whole lot to prove. I'll leave it at that.
Interestingly, LeBron has the highest average all-time in elimination games, and he is only two 40 point games behind Kobe in considerably less games.
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Bass is pretty good. Still pissed about the Mavs just letting him walk like that.
On another note, this will probably be the last suspenseful NBA game of the season.
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Bass is pretty good. Still pissed about the Mavs just letting him walk like that.
On another note, this will probably be the last suspenseful NBA game of the season.
u think Boston is gonna sweep the Thunder???
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Bass is pretty good. Still pissed about the Mavs just letting him walk like that.
On another note, this will probably be the last suspenseful NBA game of the season.
u think Boston is gonna sweep the Thunder???
I'm not saying the Thunder are going to sweep either team. But when the Thunder show up in full synch scoring whenever they want, it's over. Thunder in 5 over either team. Look out for the fix being in in Game 3.
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Bass is pretty good. Still pissed about the Mavs just letting him walk like that.
On another note, this will probably be the last suspenseful NBA game of the season.
u think Boston is gonna sweep the Thunder???
I'm not saying the Thunder are going to sweep either team. But when the Thunder show up in full synch scoring whenever they want, it's over. Thunder in 5 over either team. Look out for the fix being in in Game 3.
if Miami plays like they did tonight there is no way they lose
jesus, Bron gets 31, Wade 20 and Bosh 19
insane preformance and it was very depressing seeing Ray Allen at t he end knowing he'll never be a Celtic again :( :'(
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props to Rondo for keeping us in the game tonight
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If the three play like this, they're going to win.
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If the three play like this, they're going to win.
id had to agree. niggas was on fire.
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
not with Rondo!!
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
not with Rondo!!
rondo is the only consistently good player on the team...literally
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
not with Rondo!!
rondo is the only consistently good player on the team...literally
but KG showed up 3/4 of when we needed him this post season
and Pierce had some big games too
Ray Ray was hurt all postseason tho
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
not with Rondo!!
rondo is the only consistently good player on the team...literally
but KG showed up 3/4 of when we needed him this post season
and Pierce had some big games too
Ray Ray was hurt all postseason tho
thats what im sayin...they had good and bad games. they werent consistent. kg and pierce looked pretty bad today, especially in the second half. they just get increasingly worse as the game progresses.
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DON'T REMIND ME NIK :(
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Miami deserved it. You could see what a difference Bosh makes. If he was there from the get go, this wouldn't be a 7 game series.
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once there was like 6-7 minutes left in the 4th, it was over for boston. my dudes just couldn't hit a shot to save their lives. it seems like every possession they were rushing it to try and hit a 3 or get a quick 2, playing like it was the last minute of the game
to add insult to injury miami were hitting everything it seemed in that 6-7 minute window, they just didn't crack under the pressure. either way, OKC are gonna destroy whoever won this series
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CRAZY Lebron fact: he has 554 points through 3 rounds
that is the 24th highest total of points in a playoff run ever and Lebron still has 4 - 7 games to go
if he keeps it up he's gonna finish in close to 1st which is MJ
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Boston will win game 7. Mark my words.
lol :(
nice to see u back though Spice, u da man
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Miami deserved it. You could see what a difference Bosh makes. If he was there from the get go, this wouldn't be a 7 game series.
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Hack got banned with Elano over a week ago lol.
No shit? Lol I thought it had been a while since he'd posted but I didn't hear any of that.
yeah
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celtics were pretty awful down the stretch...they woulda got swept in the first round if they played in the west.
not with Rondo!!
rondo is the only consistently good player on the team...literally
but KG showed up 3/4 of when we needed him this post season
and Pierce had some big games too
Ray Ray was hurt all postseason tho
thats what im sayin...they had good and bad games. they werent consistent. kg and pierce looked pretty bad today, especially in the second half. they just get increasingly worse as the game progresses.
i still want KG back next year
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^I believe now would be the perfect time to break that shit up. They went out with a bang. Next year the might just get shitted on.
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^I believe now would be the perfect time to break that shit up. They went out with a bang. Next year the might just get shitted on.
Rondo +Bradley will be dope and Pierce at the 3
we should go after Howard
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I mean with Rondo in place, the Celtics aren't finished...yet. You just need a pretty good shooter to replace Ray & then like Hack said, Howard is always a possibility & that's a major improvement from KG aside from the fact a lot of KG's points came off that 18 footer coming off the pick & roll.
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game 2 tmrw night!
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5 and a half hours til tip off 8)
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James FTs looked great tonight.
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this is why Lebron is the best
12-12 from the freethrow line and those clutch FT's at the end
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Tight there up 17-2 & it was a 4 point game.
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okc got robbed by the refs on that one.
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okc got robbed by the refs on that one.
Like Sac-town vs your boys back in the day, its nothing new.
If you was watching the game live, it would be hard to pick up that foul for a ref, but I do agree if that was Battier guarding him, Durant woulda got the call.
OKC's problem is there slow ass starts, not a refs calls. OKC should win this series, Durant is the best scorer in the game, Westbrook is D-Rose lite, Ibaka guards the lane like no other...HARDEN...this is a great team, they are great to watch. IF they keep the team together, I see no other team coming out the west for a LONG time.
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okc got robbed by the refs on that one.
Like Sac-town vs your boys back in the day, its nothing new.
If you was watching the game live, it would be hard to pick up that foul for a ref, but I do agree if that was Battier guarding him, Durant woulda got the call.
OKC's problem is there slow ass starts, not a refs calls. OKC should win this series, Durant is the best scorer in the game, Westbrook is D-Rose lite, Ibaka guards the lane like no other...HARDEN...this is a great team, they are great to watch. IF they keep the team together, I see no other team coming out the west for a LONG time.
That sac-laker series is a common misconception. There were games in that series that were reffed in favor of both teams, depending on the game.
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blah blah blah
bottom line the Kings deserved to win that series
how about Bron Bron making 12 for 12 on free throws? impressive 8)
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blah blah blah
bottom line the Kings deserved to win that series
how about Bron Bron making 12 for 12 on free throws? impressive 8)
good job...luck they didnt call that foul, though, cuz in reality, it was yet another chokejob by the heat.
as for the kings-lakers series, the better team won. 8)
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eh, i say it was a hard earned win on the road that ALMOST escaped.
damn i wish the Celtics were playing, Rondo would be owning westbrook
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The Celtics would get ran off the floor.
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The Celtics would get ran off the floor.
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Celtics would be up 3-0 by now
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Bron makes it a 4 point game
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Heat win
Lebron moves into 10th all time in single season playoff scoring with 645 points in this playoff run.
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game 4 tonight!
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game time, sluts!
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Bron and WEstbrook are filling up that stat sheet
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Durant is like 6-10 and has ZERO rebounds throughout 3 quarters of an NBA Finals game? Are you kiddin me?
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Durant is like 6-10 and has ZERO rebounds throughout 3 quarters of an NBA Finals game? Are you kiddin me?
lolhe got some Rashard Lewis in him
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This guy is never injured and just about RIGHT NOW??!? Good Lord, give the nigga a break already.
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russell westbrook has a low basketball IQ lol
you never see Rondo do something like that
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Most points in one post-season:
1. Michael Jordan* 759 1992 CHI
2. Hakeem Olajuwon* 725 1995 HOU
3. Allen Iverson 723 2001 PHI
4. Shaquille O'Neal 707 2000 LAL
5. Kobe Bryant 695 2009 LAL
6. Michael Jordan* 680 1998 CHI
7a. Lebron James 671 2012 MIA
7b. Kobe Bryant 671 2010 LAL
9. Michael Jordan* 666 1993 CHI
10. Hakeem Olajuwon* 664 1994 HOU
Lebron still has at least one game to go, if not two or three
he can get high up on that bitch
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Most points in one post-season:
1. Michael Jordan* 759 1992 CHI
2. Hakeem Olajuwon* 725 1995 HOU
3. Allen Iverson 723 2001 PHI
4. Shaquille O'Neal 707 2000 LAL
5. Kobe Bryant 695 2009 LAL
6. Michael Jordan* 680 1998 CHI
7a. Lebron James 671 2012 MIA
7b. Kobe Bryant 671 2010 LAL
9. Michael Jordan* 666 1993 CHI
10. Hakeem Olajuwon* 664 1994 HOU
Lebron still has at least one game to go, if not two or three
if he plays only one game, he ends up at 695-705
if he plays 2 games he gets 725-735
if the series goes to a game 7 it is foreseeable that he can pass MJ
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by the way, doesn't that list show you just how DOMINANT Hakeem was?
before the extended 7 game first round series, Hakeem still pops up in the top ten all time twice! meanwhile Shaq only once and no other big men in sight!
Hakeem is the man
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Durant had four points with LeBron on him in the fourth in Game 3. Six points in Game 4.
I guess in his defense, Westbrook balled his ass off for about six straight minutes in the fourth. But still, it's Durant's team.
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OKC is playing like Miami did last year
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OKC is playing like Miami did last year
Except everyone is rooting for them. So nobody goes out of their way to point it out lol. That's why I hate the media.
But I honestly solely blame James Harden. He's playing like a fucking pussy. Had like six turnovers by halfway through the third & shot like 2-10. :-X
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I blame Durant for disappearing in the 4th when Bron is guarding him
also Westbrook had a few DUMB plays last night, like dribbling the ball off his foot and the fouling with 5 seconds on the shotclock
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OKC is playing like Miami did last year
real spit....to me, it looks like they're beating themselves. looking shakey down the stretch, hella rookified.
if they were seasoned vets, story would be completely different
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I blame Durant for disappearing in the 4th when Bron is guarding him
also Westbrook had a few DUMB plays last night, like dribbling the ball off his foot and the fouling with 5 seconds on the shotclock
yes...it's quite obvious to the trained eye that okc has never been in this situation before. this is looking like their learning experience more and more as each game goes by.
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But I honestly solely blame James Harden. He's playing like a fucking pussy. Had like six turnovers by halfway through the third & shot like 2-10. :-X
"all beard no brain" - ron artest
lol
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Both Harden and Ibaka are a no show in these Finals ...
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yea...and fisher is sometimes over-confident in his drive to the basket on fast breaks. to me, that was the turning point in the game. thunder up 2 with 4 minutes to go and possession of the ball, fisher runs full speed into the lane, as if he's got any sort of athleticism, and he straight gets rejected, leading to an easy fast break for the Heat and a QUICK moment shift in their favor. i dunno why he's been doin that lately. he never did this with the Lakers. that was the perfect moment for him to slow things up and control the game the rest of the way.
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It's quite simple. OKC are a bunch of rookies when it comes to finals. Miami are not. Even the players outside of big 3 are somewhat seasoned vets. And you can tell they were in the finals last year. And lost.
Miami deserves to win. The end.
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the Skeat are milking the so called injuries because after they get the championship the highlights can milk the limping and clinching as if the skeat was battered and bruised and ERNED this champi....p !watch when its all said and done they will drag out the injuries, even though when they happened the team was up...
.....miami how does it feel to be the first team team have to actually buy a championship.....I mean the ref's and dAVID sTERN love them some Miami ....SKEAT.
lets say the Skeat are a great team, well the Thunder beat them to the punch but the ref's had to slow it down and put the skeat back in it....more marketing will come from the 3 superstars then one superstar and his sidekick...not to mention after this horrible season the 3 superstars who bought a champi.....p will go on to the olympics.... the hype will be threw the roof and sterns pocket will get that much more fatter....lets say they didnt buy the champio....p well then, stern would rather give queen james a champi....p than let a young team win the championship in its first ever appearance.
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the Skeat are milking the so called injuries because after they get the championship the highlights can milk the limping and clinching as if the skeat was battered and bruised and ERNED this champi....p !watch when its all said and done they will drag out the injuries, even though when they happened the team was up...
.....miami how does it feel to be the first team team have to actually buy a championship.....I mean the ref's and dAVID sTERN love them some Miami ....SKEAT.
lets say the Skeat are a great team, well the Thunder beat them to the punch but the ref's had to slow it down and put the skeat back in it....more marketing will come from the 3 superstars then one superstar and his sidekick...not to mention after this horrible season the 3 superstars who bought a champi.....p will go on to the olympics.... the hype will be threw the roof and sterns pocket will get that much more fatter....lets say they didnt buy the champio....p well then, stern would rather give queen james a champi....p than let a young team win the championship in its first ever appearance.
you sound like a moron for calling them the "skeat"
are you 5??
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the Skeat are milking the so called injuries because after they get the championship the highlights can milk the limping and clinching as if the skeat was battered and bruised and ERNED this champi....p !watch when its all said and done they will drag out the injuries, even though when they happened the team was up...
.....miami how does it feel to be the first team team have to actually buy a championship.....I mean the ref's and dAVID sTERN love them some Miami ....SKEAT.
lets say the Skeat are a great team, well the Thunder beat them to the punch but the ref's had to slow it down and put the skeat back in it....more marketing will come from the 3 superstars then one superstar and his sidekick...not to mention after this horrible season the 3 superstars who bought a champi.....p will go on to the olympics.... the hype will be threw the roof and sterns pocket will get that much more fatter....lets say they didnt buy the champio....p well then, stern would rather give queen james a champi....p than let a young team win the championship in its first ever appearance.
you sound like a moron for calling them the "skeat"
are you 5??
i like his style
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lol @ "buying a champonship" with a salary cap in place
how is it working for the Knicks? would you say the same thing NAtive American if the Knicks were here?
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lmao just gotta love it when random niggas who never post all of a sudden start to write angry essays and shit... that's the best indicator to know if a series is over
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"it would be better for the NBA is the Heat didn't win again" - Barkley
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"it would be better for the NBA is the Heat didn't win again" - Barkley
I'm telling you, man. The world wants to see him fail. If he said "NOT ONE, OR TWO, OR THREE..." & then lost seven times in a row, the audience would grow by the year.
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the funny thing is, if u listen back to that pep rally
lebron never SAYS they are going to win
he says he "believes" they can win
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the funny thing is, if u listen back to that pep rally
lebron never SAYS they are going to win
he says he "believes" they can win
Lol, he said once the game starts it's gonna be easy
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the funny thing is, if u listen back to that pep rally
lebron never SAYS they are going to win
he says he "believes" they can win
Lol, he said once the game starts it's gonna be easy
they went 58-24, it was easy lol
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hey NIK who are your top 10 players in the NBA right now?
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Remedy must be partying somewhere
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top players of all time (revised, serious too)
1-MJ (6 titles, 5 MVPs, what more do i need to say?)
2-Russell (11 titles)
3-Bird (best shooter ever AND he got 10 rebounds a game?)
4-Magic (too bad he didn't get to play another 3-4 years. fuck whatever scientists created aids!)
5-Hakeem
6-The Big O (only man to average a triple double...was the reason KAreem got his first title)
7-Wilt (he had the most dominant 2 years in NBA history but couldn't win in his prime)
8-Shaq
9-Kobe Bryant
10-Lebron (climbing like a motherfucker now)
just missing (Not in any special order)
Kareem (never won a ring without Magic or Oscar, does deserve lots of credit for longevity)
Karl Malone (probably would be #11)
Kevin McHale
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Jerry West
John Stockton
Isiah Thomas
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley
Elgin Baylor
Dirk Nowitzki
Rajon Rondo
etc. etc.
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http://www.youtube.com//v/ZjgreqGLbqc&sns=em
I called it
Miami/Boston,Boston/Miami
OKC too but only becuz Durant from DC
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MVP! Great close out by Miami. Thoroughly deserve the title.
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I'd take Duncan, West and Kareen over LeBron right now.
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I'd take Duncan, West and Kareen over LeBron right now.
no Malone???
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whenever someone tries to clown on Bron for only having one ring he can always point to KArl Malone, Patrick Ewing, chuck Barkley and John Stockton
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"it would be better for the NBA is the Heat didn't win again" - Barkley
I'm telling you, man. The world wants to see him fail. If he said "NOT ONE, OR TWO, OR THREE..." & then lost seven times in a row, the audience would grow by the year.
Barkley on LeBron: "I usually don't put anyone in MJ's category but if he wins 3 or 4 rings it's going to be close."
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close for sure
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I have no words. No words could ever do justice describing the greatness of LeBron James given the context of this game. Win or go home game? On the road? In Boston? With the wholre world eager to shit on you? And you put up THAT kind of performance? ...
lol
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congeats to Miami
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Leaving Kareem out of the top 10 is as absurd as saying Souljah boy is the greatest rapper of all time ... I'm not surprised though :laugh:
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lebron is dr. j status now...he's gunna need numerous championships to be mj/kobe/magic status. especially considering he left his home town to play alongside 2 other franchise players.
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I think Bron needs a few more...but damn has his game improved. Impressed with his post game and focus. Incredibly consistent playoff run.
Sure Bron went to Miami, but he didn't join a franchise That already had the greatest center in the league; What makes MJ better than all of them is he joined a shit team stuck it out, and won championships...6!!
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LOL. Truth. But I'm sure something new will come up.
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it's sad that people take their time to make these
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What makes MJ better than all of them is he joined a shit team stuck it out, and won championships...6!!
ummmm, yea...pretty sure thats what kobe did too, enduring years of playin with kwame, smush, and luke in his starting 5 during his prime years.
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MJ played with Pippen and Horace Grant
not a shit team if you ask me
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smh
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What makes MJ better than all of them is he joined a shit team stuck it out, and won championships...6!!
ummmm, yea...pretty sure thats what kobe did too, enduring years of playin with kwame, smush, and luke in his starting 5 during his prime years.
Wow. I meant from the star of his career, he didnt join a franchise That historically has been a top two franchise in the league. I'm my saying what the bulls became was shit...it was a great team. Im just saying his situation was quite different from magic or Kobe's and quite similar to Brons, except Bron chose to bounce
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Remedy must be partying somewhere
Lol, I was, but like I said it's only a short term solution. The team that was built on the back of shitty years in Seattle is full of young talent that's only going to get better. Harden's not gonna be scared of the big scene forever, Westbrook is only gonna get better, and KD still hasn't even reached his ceiling. All I can do right now is be a mature adult and hope for injuries.
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What makes MJ better than all of them is he joined a shit team stuck it out, and won championships...6!!
ummmm, yea...pretty sure thats what kobe did too, enduring years of playin with kwame, smush, and luke in his starting 5 during his prime years.
Wow. I meant from the star of his career, he didnt join a franchise That historically has been a top two franchise in the league. I'm my saying what the bulls became was shit...it was a great team. Im just saying his situation was quite different from magic or Kobe's and quite similar to Brons, except Bron chose to bounce
well. kobe post-shaq was in pretty much the same situation as jordan pre-pippen.. neither kobe nor mj bounced. lebron did. that is what separates them as competitors and what makes lebron's ring less impressive than if he woulda done it in cleveland.
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"Lebron James matured into the leader that the Heat needed to go all the way and I tip my hat to Lebron ! His critics have nothing left 2 say. Miami's maturity & teamwork were too much for the Thunder. I am sure The Thunder will be back next year but this was Miami's year. Its always a pleasure 2 C someone whose had 2 deal with alot of criticism, handle it in a classy way, and come out on top. Congrats Lebron!" - Kareem
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My point was MJ never came to a team with a franchise player, making him unique. Get it?
Asterisk talk is quite predictable. But I guess, considering people said the lakers last two weren't legit cuz of gasol trades, or that Kobes first three weren't his, it's plausible you'd feel the need to claim this chip ain't legit.
Bottom line, Bron played great, and is currently the best player on the league, and just won MVP in both regular seaso and playoffs to prove it. Let's leave legacy talk for later, it's exhausting!
I think everyone can recognize lebron played well through the whole playoffs despite the hate and past failures, so let's recognize and keep it moving
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Asterisk talk is quite predictable. But I guess, considering people said the lakers last two weren't legit cuz of gasol trades, or that Kobes first three weren't his, it's plausible you'd feel the need to claim this chip ain't legit.
Bottom line, Bron played great, and is currently the best player on the league, and just won MVP in both regular seaso and playoffs to prove it. Let's leave legacy talk for later, it's exhausting!
I think everyone can recognize lebron played well through the whole playoffs despite the hate and past failures, so let's recognize and keep it moving
pretty on point here
i always considered the 08-09 Lakers the luckeist team ever beacuse they faced that WACKASS, heavily flawed Magic team that barely beat the Celtics (without KG that post season) but I don't put any asterisks on that
i don't put any asterisks on Tim Duncan's first title either
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I think everyone can recognize lebron played well through the whole playoffs despite the hate and past failures, so let's recognize and keep it moving
yes...and it's already been recognized. but what i say stands.
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Asterisk talk is quite predictable. But I guess, considering people said the lakers last two weren't legit cuz of gasol trades, or that Kobes first three weren't his, it's plausible you'd feel the need to claim this chip ain't legit.
Bottom line, Bron played great, and is currently the best player on the league, and just won MVP in both regular seaso and playoffs to prove it. Let's leave legacy talk for later, it's exhausting!
I think everyone can recognize lebron played well through the whole playoffs despite the hate and past failures, so let's recognize and keep it moving
pretty on point here
i always considered the 08-09 Lakers the luckeist team ever beacuse they faced that WACKASS, heavily flawed Magic team that barely beat the Celtics (without KG that post season) but I don't put any asterisks on that
i don't put any asterisks on Tim Duncan's first title either
it aint about us, it's about the record books...and there will always be an asterisk that says "shortened season" by those, like it or not.
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lol, what a bitter ass kid. Stern is already considering making 66 games a season permanent.
The man will say anything at this point.
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lol, what a bitter ass kid. Stern is already considering making 66 games a season permanent.
The man will say anything at this point.
what are u talkin about...i'm only spitting facts. i already congratulated lebron. what else do i have to do to gain ur approval, suck his dick like u?
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lol, all non-LeBron haters on this forum agree with everything I say about him. So is everyone besides you & a few other bitter Kobe fans deep throating LeBron?
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lol, all non-LeBron haters on this forum agree with everything I say about him. So is everyone besides you & a few other bitter Kobe fans deep throating LeBron?
actually, remedy just said the exact thing as i me in the other thread, so wtf u talkin bout.
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Lebron has lead his teams to more titles than Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton and Charles Barkley combined
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More Finals appearances too. ;D
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so Magic Johnson says Lebron is a top 10 player of all time now
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BSPN says Ray Allen and Miami are interested in eachother
lol at ESPN making it sound like a dating show
anyways if Ray goes to Miami it's over
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anyone think Allen will go there??
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If Steve Novak doesn't resign with the Knicks, the Heat should scoop him & Ray Ray. Then the Vegas odds would go from 3-1 to 1-3 lol.
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If Steve Novak doesn't resign with the Knicks, the Heat should scoop him & Ray Ray. Then the Vegas odds would go from 3-1 to 1-3 lol.
just wow, lol thats just too much bro.
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how's that too much?
imagine that team with those guys shooting 3's
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the Heat already have enough shooters...thats why they won, because they were ICE from behind the arc. They need better low-post players, more size. If they were facing the Lakers in the Finals, they would have had way more problems than they did with OKC, due to their lack of size.
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the Heat already have enough shooters...thats why they won, because they were ICE from behind the arc. They need better low-post players, more size. If they were facing the Lakers in the Finals, they would have had way more problems than they did with OKC, due to their lack of size.
1-mike miller is done
2-shane battier ain't gonna score 17 points in a finals game ever again
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the Heat already have enough shooters...thats why they won, because they were ICE from behind the arc. They need better low-post players, more size. If they were facing the Lakers in the Finals, they would have had way more problems than they did with OKC, due to their lack of size.
1-mike miller is done
2-shane battier ain't gonna score 17 points in a finals game ever again
almost every player on the Heat is an outside shooter
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you can never have enough
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how's that too much?
imagine that team with those guys shooting 3's
its just too much talent on that team, lol whos next?
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how's that too much?
imagine that team with those guys shooting 3's
its just too much talent on that team, lol whos next?
nash lol
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what do u guys predict Miami does in free agency
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how's that too much?
imagine that team with those guys shooting 3's
its just too much talent on that team, lol whos next?
nash lol
haha i was hoping someone would say nash.
i have a feeling hes heading towards miami, if he wants a ring that is. he said he was interested and lebron was openly telling nash to come to miami, lmao jamal crawford as well.
cp3 once said lakers were cheating with kobe, gasol, bynum, and odom, but god damn lebron, nash, ray allen, bosh, wade, is one some nba 2k team editing shit.
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The shane battier upgrade and the Mario chalmers off the dribble penetration, lebrons post up game- were the main catalysts for the heat winning this year, as opposed to last year v the mavs
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Rashard Lewis signs with the Heat
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Rashard Lewis signs with the Heat
well i can formally name them the Miami Cheats.
wow
who are their projected centers?
i remember they were signing a solid big man? or there were talks.
seriously i hope we smash on their ass next year in the finals
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I saw Kenny Hasbrouck at an exhibition game last night
also Tay Fisher of the Globetrotters was there
is Hasbrouck still with the Heat as a D Leaguer? too lazy to look this up
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someone post a photo of BIRDMAN sitting court side. that nigger is hilarious.
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Heats set to 3 peat barring injury
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someone post a photo of BIRDMAN sitting court side. that nigger is hilarious.
racist
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any news on mike miller?
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lebron is the first player to win an MVP, NBA Finals MVP and gold medal in the same year since MJ in 1992
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I've hated on LeBron for a while, but the guy is fucking unreal.
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IMO, DURANT WAS THE MVP OF TEAM USA, THOUGH. KOBE WAS USED AS MORE OF A VETERAN FLOOR LEADER/PLAYER COACH. AND LEBRON DID HIS THING, BUT DURANT WAS SOMETHIN ELSE.
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IMO, DURANT WAS THE MVP OF TEAM USA, THOUGH. KOBE WAS USED AS MORE OF A VETERAN FLOOR LEADER/PLAYER COACH. AND LEBRON DID HIS THING, BUT DURANT WAS SOMETHIN ELSE.
Okay... still... LeBron won the NBA MVP, his team won the NBA Finals and he was on Team USA who won gold. Not since 1992 has any basketball player did this, and that was Michael Jordan. That's a great year. And if you look at Dream Team stats, not that any of that matter with that team because they won by blow outs, Charles Barkley was the MVP of that team. And no one will ever say Barkley is better than MJ.
Let's just give LeBron his due, it's been a hell of a year, and he's the most physically dominating player we've ever seen. No one has been as strong and fast as he has been since he came into the league. He's finally put it together and now LeBron is ready to achieve greatness. Granted, later than most, but he's there.
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IMO, DURANT WAS THE MVP OF TEAM USA, THOUGH. KOBE WAS USED AS MORE OF A VETERAN FLOOR LEADER/PLAYER COACH. AND LEBRON DID HIS THING, BUT DURANT WAS SOMETHIN ELSE.
Okay... still... LeBron won the NBA MVP, his team won the NBA Finals and he was on Team USA who won gold. Not since 1992 has any basketball player did this, and that was Michael Jordan. That's a great year. And if you look at Dream Team stats, not that any of that matter with that team because they won by blow outs, Charles Barkley was the MVP of that team. And no one will ever say Barkley is better than MJ.
Let's just give LeBron his due, it's been a hell of a year, and he's the most physically dominating player we've ever seen. No one has been as strong and fast as he has been since he came into the league. He's finally put it together and now LeBron is ready to achieve greatness. Granted, later than most, but he's there.
NOT SAYIN IT WASNT A GOOD YEAR FOR LEBRON, JUST THAT HE WASNT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT...THAT IS ALL
HE'S STILL NOT AS GREAT AS SOME PEOPLE ACT, THOUGH. IS HE A BEAST OF A PLAYER? YES. BUT THERE IS STILL DURANT, WHO IS BETTER, IMO. ALSO, PEOPLE TEND 2 FORGET ABOUT THE LUCK FACTOR. MIAMI WAS DOWN 2-1 TO INDIANA, AND 3-2 TO BOSTON. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY JUST RAN THROUGH EVERYONE. AGAIN, LEBRON IS A BEAST, BUT 2 GROUP HIM WITH MJ IS STILL FAR-FETCHED.
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lebron is the best player in the league NIK
get over it :)
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DURANT WAS CLEALY BETTER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND ID TAKE HIM OVER LEBRON ANY DAY
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DURANT WAS CLEALY BETTER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND ID TAKE HIM OVER LEBRON ANY DAY
Durant was the best scorer yeah, but nobody was distributing/scoring like LeBron was..
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DURANT WAS CLEALY BETTER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND ID TAKE HIM OVER LEBRON ANY DAY
Durant was the best scorer yeah, but nobody was distributing/scoring like LeBron was..
I THOUGHT DURANT WAS BETTER OVERALL AND CARRIED THE TEAM ON HIS SHOULDERS....I WATCHED EVERY GAME
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DURANT WAS CLEALY BETTER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND ID TAKE HIM OVER LEBRON ANY DAY
Durant was the best scorer yeah, but nobody was distributing/scoring like LeBron was..
I THOUGHT DURANT WAS BETTER OVERALL AND CARRIED THE TEAM ON HIS SHOULDERS....I WATCHED EVERY GAME
I watched them all as well. Not trying to knock Durant cause he was great, I just felt like LeBron was the leader and made more plays.
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I DUNNO..FROM WHAT I SAW, I THOUGHT DURANT WAS CLEARLY THE DOMINANT ONE. AND NOW THAT I'M CHECKIN THE BOX SCORES, THE STATS SUPPORT WHAT I SAW:
http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_moly_results.html
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Coach K calls Lebron the teams best player
all i need to know
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Coach K calls Lebron the teams best player
all i need to know
BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT STARTED.........
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Coach K calls Lebron the teams best player
all i need to know
BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT STARTED.........
i doubt his opinion has changed, unless Coach K forgot all about the month of June ;)
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No wonder NIK hates Sikotic; they say people hate what they hate the most about themselves.
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Lebron had a historic Olympic performance, was a triple double machine and guarded the other teams big man. What more did he need to do to make NIK believe he was the best player on the court. Oh I get it, if he was a Laker NIK would be on his nuts right now. Dude I'm a Laker fan, I get it, but come down and see the games for what they are. Right now LeBron is at a leave not seen by any other player in the league at this moment. Very few players ever play at this level, Magic Johnson in 1987, Michael Jordan in 1992, Shaquille O'Neal in 2000, Kobe Bryant in 2006, LeBron James in 2012. In 2 years, he might come down and you can hate again. But right now LeBron is playing at a historically high level. Instead of hating that he's not in Forum Blue and Gold, just sit back and enjoy the show.
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Lebron had a historic Olympic performance, was a triple double machine and guarded the other teams big man. What more did he need to do to make NIK believe he was the best player on the court. Oh I get it, if he was a Laker NIK would be on his nuts right now. Dude I'm a Laker fan, I get it, but come down and see the games for what they are. Right now LeBron is at a leave not seen by any other player in the league at this moment. Very few players ever play at this level, Magic Johnson in 1987, Michael Jordan in 1992, Shaquille O'Neal in 2000, Kobe Bryant in 2006, LeBron James in 2012. In 2 years, he might come down and you can hate again. But right now LeBron is playing at a historically high level. Instead of hating that he's not in Forum Blue and Gold, just sit back and enjoy the show.
NIK once said Jordan Farmar was better than Lebron
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN DURANT? EVEN LEBRON, WHO IS KNOWN FOR HIS STATS, DIDNT HAVE AVERAGES NEARLY AS GOOD AS DURANT IN THE TOURNAMENT. IT'S ONE THING 2 SAY U THOUGHT HE WAS THE BEST, BUT TO SAY HE WAS "OBVIOUSLY" THE BEST IS A STRETCH.
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN LEBRON?
yes LEbron was better than Lebron
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Lebron had a historic Olympic performance, was a triple double machine and guarded the other teams big man. What more did he need to do to make NIK believe he was the best player on the court. Oh I get it, if he was a Laker NIK would be on his nuts right now. Dude I'm a Laker fan, I get it, but come down and see the games for what they are. Right now LeBron is at a leave not seen by any other player in the league at this moment. Very few players ever play at this level, Magic Johnson in 1987, Michael Jordan in 1992, Shaquille O'Neal in 2000, Kobe Bryant in 2006, LeBron James in 2012. In 2 years, he might come down and you can hate again. But right now LeBron is playing at a historically high level. Instead of hating that he's not in Forum Blue and Gold, just sit back and enjoy the show.
LMAO...LEBRON AVERAGED 13 POINTS IN THE TOURNAMENT. DURANT AVERAGED 20.
U KNOW I'M AGAINST USING STATS AS A MAIN ARGUMENT, BUT THATS A BIG ENOUGH DIFFERENTIAL TO SAY UR EXAGGERATING, AT THE VERY LEAST.
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NIK only sees one side of basketball. How pathetic.
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Coach K went on the Jim Rome show today NIK
guess what he said?
Lebron was not only the leader physically but also mentally, saying that Lebron could read Spain's plays and help position team mates defensively
at one point he even said "i mean, damn...." when talking about all the stuff Lebron did for the team
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Coach K went on the Jim Rome show today NIK
guess what he said?
Lebron was not only the leader physically but also mentally, saying that Lebron could read Spain's plays and help position team mates defensively
at one point he even said "i mean, damn...." when talking about all the stuff Lebron did for the team
LEBRON MIGHTA BEEN APPOINTED LEADER, AND THATS ALL FINE AND DANDY, BUT LIKE I SAID, DURANT OUTPLAYED HIM IN THE TOURNAMENT....20 POINTS TO 13 POINTS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN AVERAGE, AND I'M NOT ONE 2 USE STATS AS A SUPPORTING ARGUMENT.
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so Barkley is better than MJ beacuse of the 92 olympics?
and you are going to throw out the fact Lebron's team just boat raced the THunder in the finals and KD disappeared?
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN DURANT? EVEN LEBRON, WHO IS KNOWN FOR HIS STATS, DIDNT HAVE AVERAGES NEARLY AS GOOD AS DURANT IN THE TOURNAMENT. IT'S ONE THING 2 SAY U THOUGHT HE WAS THE BEST, BUT TO SAY HE WAS "OBVIOUSLY" THE BEST IS A STRETCH.
You know damn well that stats ain't everything. Far from it.
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Lebron was obviously the best player and the leader of the team.
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN DURANT? EVEN LEBRON, WHO IS KNOWN FOR HIS STATS, DIDNT HAVE AVERAGES NEARLY AS GOOD AS DURANT IN THE TOURNAMENT. IT'S ONE THING 2 SAY U THOUGHT HE WAS THE BEST, BUT TO SAY HE WAS "OBVIOUSLY" THE BEST IS A STRETCH.
You know damn well that stats ain't everything. Far from it.
VERY TRUE....BUT DURANT WAS WAY MORE DOMINANT ON THE OFFENSIVE END AND DEFENSE WAS BARELY EVEN NEEDED IN THESE GAMES. FORGET THE STATS, I'VE BEEN WATCHING EVERY GAME, AND FROM WHAT I SAW, DURANT WAS THE ALPHA....BUT EVEN I WAS SURPRISED THAT LEBRON ONLY AVERAGED 13 POINTS AFTER CHECKING THE STATS.
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Look, maybe because i grew up in the time of Magic Johnson, but to me you can dominate a game and not score. A dominate player does it on all aspects of the game. No one will call Kevin Martin a dominate player for the Rockets, but he lead the team in scoring. With 2.8 assist per game, and 2.6 rebounds, he obviously didn't do much else, but he score. Now let's take Kobe Bryant of the Lakers. Kobe not only scored 30 points per game, he also had 6.1 rebounds per game and 5.4 assist per game, meaning he played complete games. That's getting it done, that's being dominate.
Lets compare apples to apples. 1992 Dream Team. No one will ever say Charles Barkley was a better player than Michael Jordan. Even during the Dream Team Run. Well Barkley score 18 points per game, Michael only 14.9, Barkley had 4.1 rebounds per game, Michael only 2.4, but Michael had 4.8 assist per game, Barkley only 2.4. Meaning Michael was used more as a decoy to draw attention away from everyone else and then Barkley was usually open. The only players with more assist per game than Michael were Magic at 5.5, and we all know Magic loves to pass, and Scottie Pippen at 5.9, and we all know Pippen loves to pass. But looking just at points, Barkley is the greatest player in the world in 1992.
2012, LeBron had a very Michael Jordan performance. 13.3 points per game, Durant has 19.5. Both had about 5 rebounds per game, but LeBron had 5.6 assist per game compared to Durant's 2.6 assist a game. Meaning LeBron was facing more pressure and found the open man. Of course no one was touching Love on the boards.. LOL... but looking at the stats, it was a very much a team that worked well together and LeBron had a great Olympics. To deny that he was one of the best on the court is to have a bias opinion.
Let's figure an assist was worth 2 points because that's how basketball is scored, you make an assist the person scored at least 2 points. LeBron was involved in 13.3 points per game plus 11.2 points per game for 24.5 points per game. Durant has 19.5 points per game plus 5.2 points per game for 24.7 points per game. Almost even. That's dominating the game like Magic Johnson would, score 19 well Kareem had 25 and Worthy had 22 or 24, yet have 12 assist to make sure they got the points to begin with. That's great team basketball and that's what LeBron did.
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Look, maybe because i grew up in the time of Magic Johnson, but to me you can dominate a game and not score. A dominate player does it on all aspects of the game. No one will call Kevin Martin a dominate player for the Rockets, but he lead the team in scoring. With 2.8 assist per game, and 2.6 rebounds, he obviously didn't do much else, but he score. Now let's take Kobe Bryant of the Lakers. Kobe not only scored 30 points per game, he also had 6.1 rebounds per game and 5.4 assist per game, meaning he played complete games. That's getting it done, that's being dominate.
Lets compare apples to apples. 1992 Dream Team. No one will ever say Charles Barkley was a better player than Michael Jordan. Even during the Dream Team Run. Well Barkley score 18 points per game, Michael only 14.9, Barkley had 4.1 rebounds per game, Michael only 2.4, but Michael had 4.8 assist per game, Barkley only 2.4. Meaning Michael was used more as a decoy to draw attention away from everyone else and then Barkley was usually open. The only players with more assist per game than Michael were Magic at 5.5, and we all know Magic loves to pass, and Scottie Pippen at 5.9, and we all know Pippen loves to pass. But looking just at points, Barkley is the greatest player in the world in 1992.
2012, LeBron had a very Michael Jordan performance. 13.3 points per game, Durant has 19.5. Both had about 5 rebounds per game, but LeBron had 5.6 assist per game compared to Durant's 2.6 assist a game. Meaning LeBron was facing more pressure and found the open man. Of course no one was touching Love on the boards.. LOL... but looking at the stats, it was a very much a team that worked well together and LeBron had a great Olympics. To deny that he was one of the best on the court is to have a bias opinion.
Let's figure an assist was worth 2 points because that's how basketball is scored, you make an assist the person scored at least 2 points. LeBron was involved in 13.3 points per game plus 11.2 points per game for 24.5 points per game. Durant has 19.5 points per game plus 5.2 points per game for 24.7 points per game. Almost even. That's dominating the game like Magic Johnson would, score 19 well Kareem had 25 and Worthy had 22 or 24, yet have 12 assist to make sure they got the points to begin with. That's great team basketball and that's what LeBron did.
YEA, BUT LEBRON AINT NO MAGIC. DURANT HAD A HIGHER ASSIST TOTAL THAN LEBRON IN 3/8 GAMES.
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Look, maybe because i grew up in the time of Magic Johnson, but to me you can dominate a game and not score. A dominate player does it on all aspects of the game. No one will call Kevin Martin a dominate player for the Rockets, but he lead the team in scoring. With 2.8 assist per game, and 2.6 rebounds, he obviously didn't do much else, but he score. Now let's take Kobe Bryant of the Lakers. Kobe not only scored 30 points per game, he also had 6.1 rebounds per game and 5.4 assist per game, meaning he played complete games. That's getting it done, that's being dominate.
Lets compare apples to apples. 1992 Dream Team. No one will ever say Charles Barkley was a better player than Michael Jordan. Even during the Dream Team Run. Well Barkley score 18 points per game, Michael only 14.9, Barkley had 4.1 rebounds per game, Michael only 2.4, but Michael had 4.8 assist per game, Barkley only 2.4. Meaning Michael was used more as a decoy to draw attention away from everyone else and then Barkley was usually open. The only players with more assist per game than Michael were Magic at 5.5, and we all know Magic loves to pass, and Scottie Pippen at 5.9, and we all know Pippen loves to pass. But looking just at points, Barkley is the greatest player in the world in 1992.
2012, LeBron had a very Michael Jordan performance. 13.3 points per game, Durant has 19.5. Both had about 5 rebounds per game, but LeBron had 5.6 assist per game compared to Durant's 2.6 assist a game. Meaning LeBron was facing more pressure and found the open man. Of course no one was touching Love on the boards.. LOL... but looking at the stats, it was a very much a team that worked well together and LeBron had a great Olympics. To deny that he was one of the best on the court is to have a bias opinion.
Let's figure an assist was worth 2 points because that's how basketball is scored, you make an assist the person scored at least 2 points. LeBron was involved in 13.3 points per game plus 11.2 points per game for 24.5 points per game. Durant has 19.5 points per game plus 5.2 points per game for 24.7 points per game. Almost even. That's dominating the game like Magic Johnson would, score 19 well Kareem had 25 and Worthy had 22 or 24, yet have 12 assist to make sure they got the points to begin with. That's great team basketball and that's what LeBron did.
YEA, BUT LEBRON AINT NO MAGIC. DURANT HAD A HIGHER ASSIST TOTAL THAN LEBRON IN 3/8 GAMES.
so in 5 of 8 games LEbron had the higher assist total?
you argued against yourself
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Look, maybe because i grew up in the time of Magic Johnson, but to me you can dominate a game and not score. A dominate player does it on all aspects of the game. No one will call Kevin Martin a dominate player for the Rockets, but he lead the team in scoring. With 2.8 assist per game, and 2.6 rebounds, he obviously didn't do much else, but he score. Now let's take Kobe Bryant of the Lakers. Kobe not only scored 30 points per game, he also had 6.1 rebounds per game and 5.4 assist per game, meaning he played complete games. That's getting it done, that's being dominate.
Lets compare apples to apples. 1992 Dream Team. No one will ever say Charles Barkley was a better player than Michael Jordan. Even during the Dream Team Run. Well Barkley score 18 points per game, Michael only 14.9, Barkley had 4.1 rebounds per game, Michael only 2.4, but Michael had 4.8 assist per game, Barkley only 2.4. Meaning Michael was used more as a decoy to draw attention away from everyone else and then Barkley was usually open. The only players with more assist per game than Michael were Magic at 5.5, and we all know Magic loves to pass, and Scottie Pippen at 5.9, and we all know Pippen loves to pass. But looking just at points, Barkley is the greatest player in the world in 1992.
2012, LeBron had a very Michael Jordan performance. 13.3 points per game, Durant has 19.5. Both had about 5 rebounds per game, but LeBron had 5.6 assist per game compared to Durant's 2.6 assist a game. Meaning LeBron was facing more pressure and found the open man. Of course no one was touching Love on the boards.. LOL... but looking at the stats, it was a very much a team that worked well together and LeBron had a great Olympics. To deny that he was one of the best on the court is to have a bias opinion.
Let's figure an assist was worth 2 points because that's how basketball is scored, you make an assist the person scored at least 2 points. LeBron was involved in 13.3 points per game plus 11.2 points per game for 24.5 points per game. Durant has 19.5 points per game plus 5.2 points per game for 24.7 points per game. Almost even. That's dominating the game like Magic Johnson would, score 19 well Kareem had 25 and Worthy had 22 or 24, yet have 12 assist to make sure they got the points to begin with. That's great team basketball and that's what LeBron did.
YEA, BUT LEBRON AINT NO MAGIC. DURANT HAD A HIGHER ASSIST TOTAL THAN LEBRON IN 3/8 GAMES.
so in 5 of 8 games LEbron had the higher assist total?
you argued against yourself
HE COMPARED LEBRON TO MAGIC....IF DURANT AND MAGIC PLAYED TOGETHER, DURANT WOULD NEVER GET A HIGHER ASSIST TOTAL THAN MAGIC. NOT IN 2,000 GAMES. NOT NEVER. AGAIN, LEBRON WAS GOOD. HE HAD ALL-AROUND GAME. BUT AVERAGING 13 POINTS A GAME DOESNT EXACTLY MAKE U THE HANDS-DOWN STAR OF THE TEAM. IF UR MAGIC AND UR AVERAGING 12 ASSISTS A GAME, THATS A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT FROM WHAT I SAW, DURANT WAS THE FIRST OPTION AND THE GO-TO-GUY. IF DURANT WAS JUST COMIN OFF A CHAMPIONSHIP, THE MEDIA WOULD BE ALL ON HIS NUTS, SAYIN HE'S BY FAR THE BEST ON THE TEAM AND ALL THAT BS....YALL KNOW HOW IT WORKS. LEBRON IS BEING BILLED AS THE LEADER BEFORE THE TOURNEY EVEN STARTED, BUT THERE REALLY WAS NONE. DIFFERENT PLAYERS TOOK TURNS GOIN OFF. BUT IF ANYONE IS TO BE CROWNED THE BEST PLAYER OF THE TOURNEY, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE DURANT. HE WAS ICE COLD IN SOME OF THOSE GAMES. ALMOST REMINDED ME OF KOBE IN '02 WITH HOW EASY HE WAS SCORING.
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
GREAT POINTS U MADE TO DEBATE WHAT I SAID. I HAVE 2 SAY U REALLY SWAYED ME WITH THAT 1.
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
GREAT POINTS U MADE TO DEBATE WHAT I SAID. I HAVE 2 SAY U REALLY SWAYED ME WITH THAT 1.
Son, even Lakers fans are telling you that you're being an idiot. You spend ten years saying "stats" don't mean anything, but when it comes between putting the icing on LeBron's season that has only been duplicated by one player (MJ), all of sudden it means everything.
Durant shoots....that's about it. Defensively, rebounding, assist-wise & everything else goes to LeBron. It's kinda like if the Lakers change their offense around & Kobe only scores 18 & Dwight averages 24, are you telling me you're going to turn around & say "Dwight > Kobe".
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
GREAT POINTS U MADE TO DEBATE WHAT I SAID. I HAVE 2 SAY U REALLY SWAYED ME WITH THAT 1.
Son, even Lakers fans are telling you that you're being an idiot. You spend ten years saying "stats" don't mean anything, but when it comes between putting the icing on LeBron's season that has only been duplicated by one player (MJ), all of sudden it means everything.
Durant shoots....that's about it. Defensively, rebounding, assist-wise & everything else goes to LeBron. It's kinda like if the Lakers change their offense around & Kobe only scores 18 & Dwight averages 24, are you telling me you're going to turn around & say "Dwight > Kobe".
EVERYTHING I SAID WAS SUPPORTED. GET LEBRONS DICK OUT YA MOUTH. HE'S BEEN GREAT, BUT NOT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE DURANT, IF BETTER AT ALL.
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
GREAT POINTS U MADE TO DEBATE WHAT I SAID. I HAVE 2 SAY U REALLY SWAYED ME WITH THAT 1.
Son, even Lakers fans are telling you that you're being an idiot. You spend ten years saying "stats" don't mean anything, but when it comes between putting the icing on LeBron's season that has only been duplicated by one player (MJ), all of sudden it means everything.
Durant shoots....that's about it. Defensively, rebounding, assist-wise & everything else goes to LeBron. It's kinda like if the Lakers change their offense around & Kobe only scores 18 & Dwight averages 24, are you telling me you're going to turn around & say "Dwight > Kobe".
EVERYTHING I SAID WAS SUPPORTED. GET LEBRONS DICK OUT YA MOUTH. HE'S BEEN GREAT, BUT NOT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE DURANT, IF BETTER AT ALL.
Wow, this guy needs help. He's like Daz, caps lock, doesn't listen to reason...
HEY DAZ... YOU HACK SCCIT'S ACCOUNT??
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LOL. Shit is straight embarrassing. This season was the end of NIKs sports career.
GREAT POINTS U MADE TO DEBATE WHAT I SAID. I HAVE 2 SAY U REALLY SWAYED ME WITH THAT 1.
Son, even Lakers fans are telling you that you're being an idiot. You spend ten years saying "stats" don't mean anything, but when it comes between putting the icing on LeBron's season that has only been duplicated by one player (MJ), all of sudden it means everything.
Durant shoots....that's about it. Defensively, rebounding, assist-wise & everything else goes to LeBron. It's kinda like if the Lakers change their offense around & Kobe only scores 18 & Dwight averages 24, are you telling me you're going to turn around & say "Dwight > Kobe".
EVERYTHING I SAID WAS SUPPORTED. GET LEBRONS DICK OUT YA MOUTH. HE'S BEEN GREAT, BUT NOT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE DURANT, IF BETTER AT ALL.
Wow, this guy needs help. He's like Daz, caps lock, doesn't listen to reason...
HEY DAZ... YOU HACK SCCIT'S ACCOUNT??
I'M ON A FOREIGN, PC, SLOW YOUR ROLE. IF UR SAYING HIS NOT AS GOOD AS LEBRON WAS IN THE TOURNAMENT, YOU'RE TRIPPIN BALLS. HIS AVERAGING 7 POINTS MORE, HOW CAN HE NOT AT LEAST BE CONSIDERED AS THE TOP PLAYER OF THE TEAM?
MDOGG IS TRIPPIN. HIS TALKIN ALL THIS SHIT BUT PROBABLY DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE GAMES.
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I ain't saying he wasn't as good as Durant... I watched the games and Durant came to play. If the TEAM didn't come to play against the Spanish team, we'd be the home of a silver medal team. But don't act like LeBron was sucking ass out there. From what I saw, he was one of the best players in the game. He was killing it and making the right play at the right time.
Here's the thing I have seen with LeBron. Before I was like you, I was not a hater but I didn't appreciated his game because I didn't understand it. After years of watching MJ and Kobe, I always thought the best player in the game would want the shot. I think even LeBron agrees with that now. But his make up, his mentality is not that way. His mentality is to share the ball and play with people. That's why he went to play with his friends in South Beach. He wants to have fun, he wants his team to be involved and he would do what is needed for his team not only to win, but for his teammates to feel involved. At the end of the game, if a player is missing shots, Kobe and Michael will shut them out and ignore them while trying to win the game on there own. LeBron is not like that, he will pass them the ball hoping they make that shot, then crash to boards in case they miss and do a put back. He's a different kind of player than we've ever seen, and that's his nature. It took years for me to understand his game. And he wouldn't be able to play this game for a long time. But right now, he's 27 years old, he's in the prime of his career, he's the most physically gifted athlete I've ever seen on a basketball court and that's including Shaq, he's unselfish to a fault and his ideal situation is to win and have his whole team involved.
I am not saying Durant had a worst game than LeBron, but what I am saying is LeBron is playing at a level not seen in a long time, and he did something only 1992 Michael Jordan had ever done. LeBron is playing at a very high level and it's funny that you are trying to minimize it because instead of hating you should just sit back and enjoy the show. Do I think LeBron and the Heat will win the NBA Finals next year, actually no. I think they have huge depth problems and with each year Wade gets older and more injured prone, Bosh has more thrown on him with the Heat's lack of size and one day LeBron will not be the most physically dominating force on the basketball court, and that will happen soon than people think. Will it happen next year, I highly doubt it, but I'm not counting it out either. But until that day come, just sit back and enjoy the show.
You wouldn't see another player like LeBron again, and it would take him 4 more years... AT LEAST... to catch Kobe. He'll be 31 years old and would have been in the league 13 years. And that's IF the Heat win every year. By then Wade will be 34 years old and at the same point of his career that Kobe is now, slowing down and hoping for one more push. And with the Big 3's large contracts and the new CBA, it will be hard for the Heat to even at depth, and on top of that teams like the Thunder and the Knicks will eventually catch up to them. So NIK, don't worry, LeBron can win a title or two. It doesn't hurt anything. And if he does get to 5, that's great, hopefully Kobe will get to 7 by then and be wrapped up as one of the greatest ever. But just enjoy the show, who knows how long it will be here. As for teams I don't want to see win the NBA Finals, Boston. They can't get to 18 before the Lakers get to 17, and that's all I have to say about that. But the Heat getting NUMBER 2! and LeBron getting 1! I can live with that. Hell I can live with LeBron getting 2 or 3... maybe 4... but if he gets 5 Kobe better have had 7 already. And that's so far down the road I wouldn't even worry about it, I will just watch it all play out.
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I ain't saying he wasn't as good as Durant... I watched the games and Durant came to play. If the TEAM didn't come to play against the Spanish team, we'd be the home of a silver medal team. But don't act like LeBron was sucking ass out there. From what I saw, he was one of the best players in the game. He was killing it and making the right play at the right time.
Here's the thing I have seen with LeBron. Before I was like you, I was not a hater but I didn't appreciated his game because I didn't understand it. After years of watching MJ and Kobe, I always thought the best player in the game would want the shot. I think even LeBron agrees with that now. But his make up, his mentality is not that way. His mentality is to share the ball and play with people. That's why he went to play with his friends in South Beach. He wants to have fun, he wants his team to be involved and he would do what is needed for his team not only to win, but for his teammates to feel involved. At the end of the game, if a player is missing shots, Kobe and Michael will shut them out and ignore them while trying to win the game on there own. LeBron is not like that, he will pass them the ball hoping they make that shot, then crash to boards in case they miss and do a put back. He's a different kind of player than we've ever seen, and that's his nature. It took years for me to understand his game. And he wouldn't be able to play this game for a long time. But right now, he's 27 years old, he's in the prime of his career, he's the most physically gifted athlete I've ever seen on a basketball court and that's including Shaq, he's unselfish to a fault and his ideal situation is to win and have his whole team involved.
I am not saying Durant had a worst game than LeBron, but what I am saying is LeBron is playing at a level not seen in a long time, and he did something only 1992 Michael Jordan had ever done. LeBron is playing at a very high level and it's funny that you are trying to minimize it because instead of hating you should just sit back and enjoy the show. Do I think LeBron and the Heat will win the NBA Finals next year, actually no. I think they have huge depth problems and with each year Wade gets older and more injured prone, Bosh has more thrown on him with the Heat's lack of size and one day LeBron will not be the most physically dominating force on the basketball court, and that will happen soon than people think. Will it happen next year, I highly doubt it, but I'm not counting it out either. But until that day come, just sit back and enjoy the show.
You wouldn't see another player like LeBron again, and it would take him 4 more years... AT LEAST... to catch Kobe. He'll be 31 years old and would have been in the league 13 years. And that's IF the Heat win every year. By then Wade will be 34 years old and at the same point of his career that Kobe is now, slowing down and hoping for one more push. And with the Big 3's large contracts and the new CBA, it will be hard for the Heat to even at depth, and on top of that teams like the Thunder and the Knicks will eventually catch up to them. So NIK, don't worry, LeBron can win a title or two. It doesn't hurt anything. And if he does get to 5, that's great, hopefully Kobe will get to 7 by then and be wrapped up as one of the greatest ever. But just enjoy the show, who knows how long it will be here. As for teams I don't want to see win the NBA Finals, Boston. They can't get to 18 before the Lakers get to 17, and that's all I have to say about that. But the Heat getting NUMBER 2! and LeBron getting 1! I can live with that. Hell I can live with LeBron getting 2 or 3... maybe 4... but if he gets 5 Kobe better have had 7 already. And that's so far down the road I wouldn't even worry about it, I will just watch it all play out.
ARE U EVEN READING THE POSTS? I NEVER EVEN SAID LEBRON SUCKED ASS OR ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE LMAO...JUST THAT DURANT WAS THE BEST IN THE TOURNAMENT. LIKE I SAID, SLOW YA ROLL, M.
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LeBron is playing at a level not seen in a long time
THIS IS WHERE UR WRONG. HIM AND DURANT ARE PLAYING ON THE SAME LEVEL, THATS MY POINT .. AND IMO, DURANT IS BETTER AND MUCH MORE OF A NATURAL. IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG IN SAYIN THAT? LEBRON AINT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE THE LEAGUE, AND THIS IS A COMMON NOTION, NOT SOMETHING IM PULLIN OUT MY ASS.
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I ain't saying he wasn't as good as Durant... I watched the games and Durant came to play. If the TEAM didn't come to play against the Spanish team, we'd be the home of a silver medal team. But don't act like LeBron was sucking ass out there. From what I saw, he was one of the best players in the game. He was killing it and making the right play at the right time.
Here's the thing I have seen with LeBron. Before I was like you, I was not a hater but I didn't appreciated his game because I didn't understand it. After years of watching MJ and Kobe, I always thought the best player in the game would want the shot. I think even LeBron agrees with that now. But his make up, his mentality is not that way. His mentality is to share the ball and play with people. That's why he went to play with his friends in South Beach. He wants to have fun, he wants his team to be involved and he would do what is needed for his team not only to win, but for his teammates to feel involved. At the end of the game, if a player is missing shots, Kobe and Michael will shut them out and ignore them while trying to win the game on there own. LeBron is not like that, he will pass them the ball hoping they make that shot, then crash to boards in case they miss and do a put back. He's a different kind of player than we've ever seen, and that's his nature. It took years for me to understand his game. And he wouldn't be able to play this game for a long time. But right now, he's 27 years old, he's in the prime of his career, he's the most physically gifted athlete I've ever seen on a basketball court and that's including Shaq, he's unselfish to a fault and his ideal situation is to win and have his whole team involved.
I am not saying Durant had a worst game than LeBron, but what I am saying is LeBron is playing at a level not seen in a long time, and he did something only 1992 Michael Jordan had ever done. LeBron is playing at a very high level and it's funny that you are trying to minimize it because instead of hating you should just sit back and enjoy the show. Do I think LeBron and the Heat will win the NBA Finals next year, actually no. I think they have huge depth problems and with each year Wade gets older and more injured prone, Bosh has more thrown on him with the Heat's lack of size and one day LeBron will not be the most physically dominating force on the basketball court, and that will happen soon than people think. Will it happen next year, I highly doubt it, but I'm not counting it out either. But until that day come, just sit back and enjoy the show.
You wouldn't see another player like LeBron again, and it would take him 4 more years... AT LEAST... to catch Kobe. He'll be 31 years old and would have been in the league 13 years. And that's IF the Heat win every year. By then Wade will be 34 years old and at the same point of his career that Kobe is now, slowing down and hoping for one more push. And with the Big 3's large contracts and the new CBA, it will be hard for the Heat to even at depth, and on top of that teams like the Thunder and the Knicks will eventually catch up to them. So NIK, don't worry, LeBron can win a title or two. It doesn't hurt anything. And if he does get to 5, that's great, hopefully Kobe will get to 7 by then and be wrapped up as one of the greatest ever. But just enjoy the show, who knows how long it will be here. As for teams I don't want to see win the NBA Finals, Boston. They can't get to 18 before the Lakers get to 17, and that's all I have to say about that. But the Heat getting NUMBER 2! and LeBron getting 1! I can live with that. Hell I can live with LeBron getting 2 or 3... maybe 4... but if he gets 5 Kobe better have had 7 already. And that's so far down the road I wouldn't even worry about it, I will just watch it all play out.
ARE U EVEN READING THE POSTS? I NEVER EVEN SAID LEBRON SUCKED ASS OR ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE LMAO...JUST THAT DURANT WAS THE BEST IN THE TOURNAMENT. LIKE I SAID, SLOW YA ROLL, M.
I did read your post, and you made it sound like LeBron wasn't doing shit, but getting credit for being the best basketball player in the tournament. I'd like to point out that I personally thought LeBron was the best player in the tournament. Not based off points but because he was a complete player who did everything on the court. I thought Durant was amazing too, but if I had to pick a player to have on my team, it would be LeBron.
LeBron is playing at a level not seen in a long time
THIS IS WHERE UR WRONG. HIM AND DURANT ARE PLAYING ON THE SAME LEVEL, THATS MY POINT .. AND IMO, DURANT IS BETTER AND MUCH MORE OF A NATURAL. IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG IN SAYIN THAT? LEBRON AINT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE THE LEAGUE, AND THIS IS A COMMON NOTION, NOT SOMETHING IM PULLIN OUT MY ASS.
I am not sure if you have been watching the NBA lately, but there has not been anyone as good as LeBron since Kobe in 2006. And on a team of superstars LeBron was still voted NBA MVP. What do you call 27.1ppg, 6.2apg, 7.9rpg, the NBA MVP, the NBA Finals MVP, 30.1 ppg in the NBA playoffs, 9.7rpg in the NBA playoffs, 6.9rpg in the NBA playoffs, shooting 53% in the season, 50% in the playoffs? If you don't call that the best player in the NBA right now, I don't know what you call that. Not saying Durant was trash, he was the second best player in the NBA. But on a team of superstars, LeBron still shines brighter than anyone else. Hands down the best player in the world right now.
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yeah NIK you really do come across as the biggest Lebron hater ever
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
there was always a Lebron-Kobe debate going back for the past 5 or 6 seasons....and before going to the Heat in 2004 everyone viewed Shaq as THE best player in the league with Duncan and KG also having their crowds.
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
there was always a Lebron-Kobe debate going back for the past 5 or 6 seasons....and before going to the Heat in 2004 everyone viewed Shaq as THE best player in the league with Duncan and KG also having their crowds.
lol...anyone who said "Lebron>Kobe" from 2003-2010 was out their fuckin mind and had no credibility. by 2002, kobe was already considered the all-around best player in the league...thats why shaq was so mad and had 2 leave.
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
there was always a Lebron-Kobe debate going back for the past 5 or 6 seasons....and before going to the Heat in 2004 everyone viewed Shaq as THE best player in the league with Duncan and KG also having their crowds.
You could of made an argument for Duncan, but nobody though Shaq was still better than Kobe after the 2002-03 season.
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shaq was mad because Kobe was playing the Iverson role and not passing the ball when Philbert told him to
that's why Phil took a huge shit on him in his book
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
there was always a Lebron-Kobe debate going back for the past 5 or 6 seasons....and before going to the Heat in 2004 everyone viewed Shaq as THE best player in the league with Duncan and KG also having their crowds.
You can make the argument for Duncan, but nobody though Shaq was still better than Kobe after the 2002-03 season.
I know that Shaq went from 27 ppg to 21 and never came back up...whatever year that was is the end of his prime.
and around that same time Kevin Garnett got a shitty ass Timberwolves team to the western finals almost all by himself and KG was truly the best player at that time 8)
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LOL, SOME1 DELETED MY LAST POST IN HERE....WELL, ANYWAYS, I NEVER SAID "LEBRON WASNT DOING SHIT". I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS A BEAST...ALL I SAID WAS THAT I THOUGHT DURANT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE TOURNAMENT, AND IF UR GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE THATS AN OUTRAGEOUS IDEA, THEN UR BRAINWASHED. NOTHIN MORE, NOTHIN LESS.
AND MDOGG ACTIN LIKE LEBRON IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER AND COMPARING HIM 2 KOBE IN HIS PRIME, WHEN THERES STILL A GREAT ARGUMENT FOR DURANT IS JUST FUNNY 2 ME. MJ IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS THE CLEAR CUT BEST IN THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS NOT THE CLEAR CUT BEST. I WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE DURANT OVER LEBRON ON MY TEAM, AND THATS NO HATE, IT'S JUST FACT.
I am saying it like it is, Lebron James, best player in the world right now.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS...
BUT WITH MJ AND KOBE IN THEIR PRIMES, THERE WAS NO DEBATE.
there was always a Lebron-Kobe debate going back for the past 5 or 6 seasons....and before going to the Heat in 2004 everyone viewed Shaq as THE best player in the league with Duncan and KG also having their crowds.
You can make the argument for Duncan, but nobody though Shaq was still better than Kobe after the 2002-03 season.
I know that Shaq went from 27 ppg to 21 and never came back up...whatever year that was is the end of his prime.
and around that same time Kevin Garnett got a shitty ass Timberwolves team to the western finals almost all by himself and KG was truly the best player at that time 8)
And he was knocked out of the playoffs by the Lakers led by Kobe Bryant. 8)
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pfft
we all know that team was lead by Karl Malone and Gary Payton
Kobe was just their sidekick
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shaq was mad because Kobe was playing the Iverson role and not passing the ball when Philbert told him to
that's why Phil took a huge shit on him in his book
if u really read phil's book, you'd know that he noted how the coaching staff was ready to run the offense through kobe in 2002, but shaq wasnt having it and threatened not to play if the offense wasnt gunna run through him..
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pfft
we all know that team was lead by Karl Malone and Gary Payton
Kobe was just their sidekick
when all else fails.....troll
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pfft
we all know that team was lead by Karl Malone and Gary Payton
Kobe was just their sidekick
when all else fails.....troll
smh you know I was kidding son
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pfft
we all know that team was lead by Karl Malone and Gary Payton
Kobe was just their sidekick
when all else fails.....troll
smh you know I was kidding son
obviously....cuz u had no response LOL
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
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pfft
we all know that team was lead by Karl Malone and Gary Payton
Kobe was just their sidekick
when all else fails.....troll
smh you know I was kidding son
I just read that and was like... WTF... Kobe lead that team, there was NO question about that. Shaq had decline ALOT, Phil didn't even put him in during clutch situations, Malone was a great team player, Payton was washed up and Kobe was at his best. Had he not had those players as his teammates, I think Kobe scored 35 ppg that season EAZY! And he was more dependable in the clutch that year.
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Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today
wrong...that day is today. it's a legit argument of 2 superstars on the same level. a true individual rivalry. neither is head-and-shoulders above the other one. durant and lebron are in the same class, and durant, imo, is the better player. u need 2 stop actin like lebron has reached that untouchable GOAT status, cuz he hasnt. yes, he won a ring...but he was also down 2-1 to the pacers and 3-2 to the celtics. he didnt run away with the title, and he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant. if he wins the next 2 titles, that will be the seperation. as of now, it's lebron-durant, durant-lebron....thats all there is to it.
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
so because i think durant is better than lebron, i hate lebron? the scoring is not equal...durant is a much better/purer scorer than lebron. he's more poised and can score with much more ease, has a better stroke, can hit free throws at an amazing rate, clutch shooter. lebron is a better passer, durant is a better rebounder...their defense is equal. durant's length on the defensive end is something else, tho. pretty much, it's a very valid comparison....like said, neither player is head and shoulders above the other, but i'd take durant, all day.
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
so because i think durant is better than lebron, i hate lebron? the scoring is not equal...durant is a much better/purer scorer than lebron. he's more poised and can score with much more ease, has a better stroke, can hit free throws at an amazing rate, clutch shooter. lebron is a better passer, durant is a better rebounder...their defense is equal. durant's length on the defensive end is something else, tho. pretty much, it's a very valid comparison....like said, neither player is head and shoulders above the other, but i'd take durant, all day.
i feel sorry for you
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
damn NIK got owned here
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
so because i think durant is better than lebron, i hate lebron? the scoring is not equal...durant is a much better/purer scorer than lebron. he's more poised and can score with much more ease, has a better stroke, can hit free throws at an amazing rate, clutch shooter. lebron is a better passer, durant is a better rebounder...their defense is equal. durant's length on the defensive end is something else, tho. pretty much, it's a very valid comparison....like said, neither player is head and shoulders above the other, but i'd take durant, all day.
i feel sorry for you
i feel sorry for anyone related 2 u...i just made great points, and thats all u can say. socially deficient?
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
we all do
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
It's close, but LeBron is clearly better.
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Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today
wrong...that day is today. it's a legit argument of 2 superstars on the same level. a true individual rivalry. neither is head-and-shoulders above the other one. durant and lebron are in the same class, and durant, imo, is the better player. u need 2 stop actin like lebron has reached that untouchable GOAT status, cuz he hasnt. yes, he won a ring...but he was also down 2-1 to the pacers and 3-2 to the celtics. he didnt run away with the title, and he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant. if he wins the next 2 titles, that will be the seperation. as of now, it's lebron-durant, durant-lebron....thats all there is to it.
Who said anything about GOAT statues? I'm saying in 2012, LeBron proved himself the best player in the world. You are the only one in America saying Durant, and because you are saying this you want people to recognize it as a legitimate challenge, dogg you ain't that important. There was someone in Orlando, FL in 1996 saying Shaq was the most dominate player in the NBA, and therefore he was the best. But by summer of 1996, the majority of people agreed that Michael Jordan was the best player of that year. There was someone in Chicago in 1987 that say, Michael Jordan is the best player in the NBA, but after winning and NBA title and MVP award everyone that summer said Magic Johnson. In 2009, someone in Ohio claimed up and down that LeBron was the best player in the NBA, but by the summer everyone agreed it was Kobe Bryant. That is the way it is, that's the way it will always be. You are now that person who says Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA, when everyone else says it's LeBron. That's just the way it is.
Look on the bright side, in 2-3 years, when Dwight Howard wins LA a title with Kobe retired, we can agree Howard as the best player in the NBA. We can rejoice at LeBron's decline together, and we can forget you ever ranked Durant ahead of Howard and it'll be like 2006-now when we actually got along. I mean think of it, who ever thought M Dogg and Now I Know could get along. It was a golden age for DubCC.
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
It's close, but LeBron is clearly better.
if it's close, he cant be "clearly" better...and if he was "clearly" better, he wouldnt average 13 points to durant's 20 in this years olympics. anyone who thinks an argument cant be made for either player is either a huge fan of one or the other, or is simply not watching them.
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
It's close, but LeBron is clearly better.
if it's close, he cant be "clearly" better...and if he was "clearly" better, he wouldnt average 13 points to durant's 20 in this years olympics. anyone who thinks an argument cant be made for either player is either a huge fan of one or the other, or is simply not watching them.
Sccit, listen, please listen. Look at the Dream Team's stats. You know Barkley "clearly" scored more points than Michael "Fuckin'" Jordan!!! It wasn't even close. Please tell me in 1992, that Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan. Please I'm begging you, please tell that. If you say Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan in 1992, then I will drop this whole thing and I will agree with you. All you have to do is say in 1992, Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan. And well we are at in, that Scottie Pippen was a better passer than Magic Johnson since Pippen had more assist than Magic. Then I will agree with you.
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Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today
wrong...that day is today. it's a legit argument of 2 superstars on the same level. a true individual rivalry. neither is head-and-shoulders above the other one. durant and lebron are in the same class, and durant, imo, is the better player. u need 2 stop actin like lebron has reached that untouchable GOAT status, cuz he hasnt. yes, he won a ring...but he was also down 2-1 to the pacers and 3-2 to the celtics. he didnt run away with the title, and he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant. if he wins the next 2 titles, that will be the seperation. as of now, it's lebron-durant, durant-lebron....thats all there is to it.
Who said anything about GOAT statues? I'm saying in 2012, LeBron proved himself the best player in the world. You are the only one in America saying Durant, and because you are saying this you want people to recognize it as a legitimate challenge, dogg you ain't that important. There was someone in Orlando, FL in 1996 saying Shaq was the most dominate player in the NBA, and therefore he was the best. But by summer of 1996, the majority of people agreed that Michael Jordan was the best player of that year. There was someone in Chicago in 1987 that say, Michael Jordan is the best player in the NBA, but after winning and NBA title and MVP award everyone that summer said Magic Johnson. In 2009, someone in Ohio claimed up and down that LeBron was the best player in the NBA, but by the summer everyone agreed it was Kobe Bryant. That is the way it is, that's the way it will always be. You are now that person who says Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA, when everyone else says it's LeBron. That's just the way it is.
Look on the bright side, in 2-3 years, when Dwight Howard wins LA a title with Kobe retired, we can agree Howard as the best player in the NBA. We can rejoice at LeBron's decline together, and we can forget you ever ranked Durant ahead of Howard and it'll be like 2006-now when we actually got along. I mean think of it, who ever thought M Dogg and Now I Know could get along. It was a golden age for DubCC.
LOL...what are u talkin about?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1212076-2012-nba-finals-kevin-durant-and-thunder-are-better-than-lebron-james-and-heat
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/19267728/lebron-or-durant-before-choosing-look-whose-games-improving-most
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/8021100/durant-better-lebron (a poll of the whole nation, 43% durant, 48% lebron.....yet, i'm "the only one saying durant"....u payin attention?)
and Howard will never be the best.
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Dwight and Kobe won't win a title together
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When Michael played, at first there was questions of who was the best, was it Jordan, was it Magic, later was it Barkley. Eventually Michael silenced them all. Later when Kobe played, there were questions. What is Vinsanity, was it AI, was it Shaq, later was it LeBron. Eventually Kobe silenced them all. I think LeBron has reached that. With LeBron it was, who's better Kobe or LeBron. Now that Kobe's on the decline LeBron has taken that top spot. Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today. LeBron ended everything the way all players do, in a 7 game series going against the best. Jordan beat Magic in 5 games and no one questioned if he was the best of that era anymore. When Barkley challenged, he beat him too. Later Kobe played out of his mind, but he never got that ring without Shaq. But everyone called him the best like they did Jordan, but in 2009 Kobe put an end to all talks and proved it. In 2010 the Lakers beat the Celtics and Kobe played out of his mind in that series. The question was answered, how can LeBron even be close when he can't lead a team to the Finals well Kobe is winning Finals. This year LeBron lead his team to victory. Durant in the series looked good, but LeBron looked dominate. It was that 5 games that I said, I can't deny it anymore, right now, in 2012, LeBron James best basketball player in the world. And until someone comes and knocks him off from that, he'll continue to be. Just like Kobe was until LeBron proved it, or Jordan was until he retired, or Magic was until Michael knocked him off. That's just the way it is.
100% truth.
so u think lebron is head-and-shoulders above durant? :laugh:
It's close, but LeBron is clearly better.
if it's close, he cant be "clearly" better...and if he was "clearly" better, he wouldnt average 13 points to durant's 20 in this years olympics. anyone who thinks an argument cant be made for either player is either a huge fan of one or the other, or is simply not watching them.
Sccit, listen, please listen. Look at the Dream Team's stats. You know Barkley "clearly" scored more points than Michael "Fuckin'" Jordan!!! It wasn't even close. Please tell me in 1992, that Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan. Please I'm begging you, please tell that. If you say Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan in 1992, then I will drop this whole thing and I will agree with you. All you have to do is say in 1992, Charles Barkley was better than Michael Jordan. And well we are at in, that Scottie Pippen was a better passer than Magic Johnson since Pippen had more assist than Magic. Then I will agree with you.
no...durant is not better because of the olympics. i already thought durant was better before that, brobro
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Well now we're arguing semantics.
And the Olympics don't mean shit. You've got a stacked USA team whose bench could beat any other team. You're not going to get a accurate measure of whose the better player.
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he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant.
you could start with 3 NBA MVP trophies, an NBA Championship trophy and NBA Finals MVP
man, you really got a hate on for the king
The scoring comparison is basically equal, but your a fool if you dont think LeBron is the better rebounder, passer, defensive player etc
so because i think durant is better than lebron, i hate lebron? the scoring is not equal...durant is a much better/purer scorer than lebron. he's more poised and can score with much more ease, has a better stroke, can hit free throws at an amazing rate, clutch shooter. lebron is a better passer, durant is a better rebounder...their defense is equal. durant's length on the defensive end is something else, tho. pretty much, it's a very valid comparison....like said, neither player is head and shoulders above the other, but i'd take durant, all day.
i feel sorry for you
i feel sorry for anyone related 2 u...i just made great points, and thats all u can say. socially deficient?
If I was a bird, I know who I'd shit on.
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Well now we're arguing semantics.
And the Olympics don't mean shit. You've got a stacked USA team whose bench could beat any other team. You're not going to get a accurate measure of whose the better player.
we barely beat Spain foo
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Maybe one day we'll ask if Durant is better than LeBron, maybe in 3 years when LeBron is 30 and Durant is hitting his prime. But that day is NOT today
wrong...that day is today. it's a legit argument of 2 superstars on the same level. a true individual rivalry. neither is head-and-shoulders above the other one. durant and lebron are in the same class, and durant, imo, is the better player. u need 2 stop actin like lebron has reached that untouchable GOAT status, cuz he hasnt. yes, he won a ring...but he was also down 2-1 to the pacers and 3-2 to the celtics. he didnt run away with the title, and he hasnt done ANYTHING yet to place him in a class above durant. if he wins the next 2 titles, that will be the seperation. as of now, it's lebron-durant, durant-lebron....thats all there is to it.
Who said anything about GOAT statues? I'm saying in 2012, LeBron proved himself the best player in the world. You are the only one in America saying Durant, and because you are saying this you want people to recognize it as a legitimate challenge, dogg you ain't that important. There was someone in Orlando, FL in 1996 saying Shaq was the most dominate player in the NBA, and therefore he was the best. But by summer of 1996, the majority of people agreed that Michael Jordan was the best player of that year. There was someone in Chicago in 1987 that say, Michael Jordan is the best player in the NBA, but after winning and NBA title and MVP award everyone that summer said Magic Johnson. In 2009, someone in Ohio claimed up and down that LeBron was the best player in the NBA, but by the summer everyone agreed it was Kobe Bryant. That is the way it is, that's the way it will always be. You are now that person who says Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA, when everyone else says it's LeBron. That's just the way it is.
Look on the bright side, in 2-3 years, when Dwight Howard wins LA a title with Kobe retired, we can agree Howard as the best player in the NBA. We can rejoice at LeBron's decline together, and we can forget you ever ranked Durant ahead of Howard and it'll be like 2006-now when we actually got along. I mean think of it, who ever thought M Dogg and Now I Know could get along. It was a golden age for DubCC.
LOL...what are u talkin about?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1212076-2012-nba-finals-kevin-durant-and-thunder-are-better-than-lebron-james-and-heat
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/19267728/lebron-or-durant-before-choosing-look-whose-games-improving-most
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/8021100/durant-better-lebron (a poll of the whole nation, 43% durant, 48% lebron.....yet, i'm "the only one saying durant"....u payin attention?)
and Howard will never be the best.
When I posted my original response I said that it was during the finals that LeBron proved himself. All of these were done before the Finals even started. It was during the NBA Finals, going head on with Durant that LeBron proved himself. Please find updated articles that show how LeBron and Durant do as starting SFs on opposite sides.
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My only response to Sccit after re-reading his bull shit.
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Everyone can see what youre doing here Elior.
You debated the LeBron vs Kobe thing to the death for years, and now that its clearly obvious to the world LeBron is the best, you are trying to put another player on that pedestal just so you dont have to praise James as the best player.
If you took a poll of all NBA players who they thought was the best player in the L, do you think Durant would win? Not a fucking chance. LeBron would. So take it from the guys who are actually on the court, and dont have a face full of Kobe nut like you.
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Everyone can see what youre doing here Elior.
You debated the LeBron vs Kobe thing to the death for years, and now that its clearly obvious to the world LeBron is the best, you are trying to put another player on that pedestal just so you dont have to praise James as the best player.
If you took a poll of all NBA players who they thought was the best player in the L, do you think Durant would win? Not a fucking chance. LeBron would. So take it from the guys who are actually on the court, and dont have a face full of Kobe nut like you.
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Im also going to pull a "NIK/Kobe" move on you
"When Durant wins 3 MVPs, NBA Title, NBA Finals MVP, All Defensive Team X" then talk to me
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Im also going to pull a "NIK/Kobe" move on you
"When Durant wins 3 MVPs, NBA Title, NBA Finals MVP, All Defensive Team X" then talk to me
Lol!
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lol...i just posted a link that shows 43% of the nation says durant>lebron. u have 2 be retarded to not realize there is an on-going debate. straight up.
i understand the lebron-lovers, hack and plant...theyre riding for their boy(friend)
but whoever else doesnt realize lebron is not head-and-shoulders above durant, you need 2 check yaself. if u say he's better, fine. but 2 say theres no way one could argue durant over lebron is a mockery to people who really do follow the sport.
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lol...i just posted a link that shows 43% of the nation says durant>lebron. u have 2 be retarded to not realize there is an on-going debate. straight up.
there WAS a debate
before Lebron won his 3rd MVP, first tile and first finals MVP....while playing against a disappearing Durant in the finals.
now it's pretty damn obvious who's the best.
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lol...i just posted a link that shows 43% of the nation says durant>lebron. u have 2 be retarded to not realize there is an on-going debate. straight up.
there WAS a debate
before Lebron won his 3rd MVP, first tile and first finals MVP....while playing against a disappearing Durant in the finals.
now it's pretty damn obvious who's the best.
1 month doesnt make a difference in how good they are lol...durant played his part in the series. it was the role players and oklahoma's inexperience that caused oklahoma 2 lose. lets not forget, lebron is playing with 2 other franchise players, and they went through their trials-and-tribulations in the finals the year before... if lebron wins a title next year, i will say he's the clear cut best. in my opinion, his team aint even the favorites, so i wouldnt exactly call him the clear cut best as of now. if u do, then ur exaggerating how good he is in comparison 2 durant.
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Durant played a 45 minute game with 1 rebound in the finals :eh:
Lebron averaged 10 rebounds a game and he's shorter than Durant
and in the finals he only averaged 2.2 assists...Lebron had 7.4
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Durant played a 45 minute game with 1 rebound in the finals :eh:
Lebron averaged 10 rebounds a game and he's shorter than Durant
and in the finals he only averaged 2.2 assists...Lebron had 7.4
what were the scoring averages? and percentages? can u post those
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lol...i just posted a link that shows 43% of the nation says durant>lebron. u have 2 be retarded to not realize there is an on-going debate. straight up.
i understand the lebron-lovers, hack and plant...theyre riding for their boy(friend)
but whoever else doesnt realize lebron is not head-and-shoulders above durant, you need 2 check yaself. if u say he's better, fine. but 2 say theres no way one could argue durant over lebron is a mockery to people who really do follow the sport.
When I checked that link, only 1,000 people voted. Dude, LeBron has his hater, in 2005 people celebrated Steve Nash winning the MVP over Kobe. And it's the same thing with LeBron, people hate him. If not for the decision, that poll would be different and you know this. Ask in 2005 who the best and I bet a lot of votes go to Nash, does that mean it's close. NO!
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yeah I think we all know Nash was better than Kobe those 2 years 8)
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lol...i just posted a link that shows 43% of the nation says durant>lebron. u have 2 be retarded to not realize there is an on-going debate. straight up.
i understand the lebron-lovers, hack and plant...theyre riding for their boy(friend)
but whoever else doesnt realize lebron is not head-and-shoulders above durant, you need 2 check yaself. if u say he's better, fine. but 2 say theres no way one could argue durant over lebron is a mockery to people who really do follow the sport.
When I checked that link, only 1,000 people voted. Dude, LeBron has his hater, in 2005 people celebrated Steve Nash winning the MVP over Kobe. And it's the same thing with LeBron, people hate him. If not for the decision, that poll would be different and you know this. Ask in 2005 who the best and I bet a lot of votes go to Nash, does that mean it's close. NO!
Total votes: 6,639
thats besides the point....theres a debate, whether u like it or not. there was never a legit nash vs. kobe debate (lol)....nash won mvp's because his team was better. every1 knows the mvp is a joke and nothing but a popularity contest nowadays, which is why i hardly factor it into vs. debates.
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
But he didn't, LeBron did. If you want to be the best, prove it to me.
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
But he didn't, LeBron did. If you want to be the best, prove it to me.
lakers lost to boston in the finals in '08.....does that mean KG was the best?
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
But he didn't, LeBron did. If you want to be the best, prove it to me.
lakers lost to boston in the finals in '08.....does that mean KG was the best?
Paul Pierce was the best. He owned Kobe that series.
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
But he didn't, LeBron did. If you want to be the best, prove it to me.
lakers lost to boston in the finals in '08.....does that mean KG was the best?
Paul Pierce was the best. He owned Kobe that series.
Kind of, the first 3 games Kobe was owning the Celtics, BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers. Kobe was the leading scorer in games 1, 2 and 3, scoring 36 in game 3. But game 4, the Boston D closed in on Kobe, and the Celtics were already up 2-1, forced Kobe to pass. Kobe got 10 assist, but the Celtics as a team was too much for Kobe and the adjusting to the triangle Gasol. Once Boston went up 3-1, it was like Pierce smelled blood and scored 38 in game 5 to close out the series but the Lakers still won at Staples, only to get CRUSHED by Boston in game 6.
End results, Kobe played better until you can tell the Lakers were over matched. Kobe still tried, but I remember thinking to myself, is Kobe the only player trying? He was fouling and trying to extend the series but the rest of the Lakers gave up. When the rest of the Lakers gave up, that's whey Pierce kicked it into overdrive and KILLED the Lakers and out performed Kobe. Would I say Paul Pierce was the better player, for the year of 2008, well he proved it right there. If for anything, he did to Kobe what Kobe had done to others over and over in his career, kill the other teams will.
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
We agree a lot on Kobe's greatness, don't get too big headed. But I also live in the real world, which separates us.
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Durant can't win in the finals, how is he better than Lebron?
he didnt win in the finals, dont mean he cant
But he didn't, LeBron did. If you want to be the best, prove it to me.
lakers lost to boston in the finals in '08.....does that mean KG was the best?
Paul Pierce was the best. He owned Kobe that series.
Kind of, the first 3 games Kobe was owning the Celtics, BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
so how was Kobe owning them if Boston was winning those games? ;)
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
We agree a lot on Kobe's greatness, don't get too big headed. But I also live in the real world, which separates us.
ur pretty awful at debating....u were tryna say that lebron is better than durant because he just won a ring. then i brought up the fact that kobe lost to the celtics in '08, but was still the hands-down best in the world. at the end of the day, the heat won against okc because they were better prepared, they were one year removed from losing in the finals, and executed properly. not cuz lebron was better than durant. like i said, if u wanna call lebron better than durant, go ahead. but he aint mj or kobe status, who were hands down the best with no one being a close second...there is still a lebron-durant debate, and there will continue to be a lebron-durant debate, until lebron has a few titles under his belt, not just one. and yea, of course more peeps currently pick lebron, being fresh off a championship and what not....but as far as individual talent, they are neck and neck, and i personally would take durant over lebron.....what dont u get in all that? what part of that sounds off to u?
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
We agree a lot on Kobe's greatness, don't get too big headed. But I also live in the real world, which separates us.
ur pretty awful at debating....u were tryna say that lebron is better than durant because he just won a ring. then i brought up the fact that kobe lost to the celtics in '08, but was still the hands-down best in the world. at the end of the day, the heat won against okc because they were better prepared, they were one year removed from losing in the finals, and executed properly. not cuz lebron was better than durant. like i said, if u wanna call lebron better than durant, go ahead. but he aint mj or kobe status, who were hands down the best with no one being a close second...there is still a lebron-durant debate, and there will continue to be a lebron-durant debate, until lebron has a few titles under his belt, not just one. and yea, of course more peeps currently pick lebron, being fresh off a championship and what not....but as far as individual talent, they are neck and neck, and i personally would take durant over lebron.....what dont u get in all that? what part of that sounds off to u?
the Atlanta Hawks put up a better fight against the Celtics than the Lakers did that year
Kobe should be ashamed.
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oh and who can forget this? the worst back-to-back home losses in Los Angeles Lakers history happened under the Kobe Bryant/Phil Jackson era in December of 2010.
that's a long, storied history...
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
We agree a lot on Kobe's greatness, don't get too big headed. But I also live in the real world, which separates us.
ur pretty awful at debating....u were tryna say that lebron is better than durant because he just won a ring. then i brought up the fact that kobe lost to the celtics in '08, but was still the hands-down best in the world. at the end of the day, the heat won against okc because they were better prepared, they were one year removed from losing in the finals, and executed properly. not cuz lebron was better than durant. like i said, if u wanna call lebron better than durant, go ahead. but he aint mj or kobe status, who were hands down the best with no one being a close second...there is still a lebron-durant debate, and there will continue to be a lebron-durant debate, until lebron has a few titles under his belt, not just one. and yea, of course more peeps currently pick lebron, being fresh off a championship and what not....but as far as individual talent, they are neck and neck, and i personally would take durant over lebron.....what dont u get in all that? what part of that sounds off to u?
WTF... you are the one arguing superstars win titles, and then you give Kobe a pass in 2008. I even left room in my arguments to give Kobe the best player in the league argument with two things, my pointing out that a group of 12 role players have 55 rings between them, and that Kobe was the best in the league in 2004-2007 even without an MVP trophy or ring. But I also said that in a 7 game series, that's when a player proves them self over another. So if Kobe was the dominate player in the 2008 series against the Celtics, then he proved to be the best player on the court, but the Celtics had the better team by far and even you have to admit Kobe looked pretty hopeless at the end.
As for LeBron s. Durant, which is the here and now, LeBron was more dominate than Durant, and that was head to head. When going against LeBron, Durant did not do as well. The only game Durant did better than LeBron, game 1. But then to say there is an argument off that would be to say Iverson was the best player in the league based off Game 1 of the 2001 Finals, he wasn't.
Game 1:
LeBron 30 points, 9 rebs, 4 assist
Durant 36 points, 8 rebs, 4 assist
Game 2:
LeBron 32 points, 8 rebs, 5 assist
Durant 32 points, 3 rebs, 1 assist
Game 3:
LeBron 29 points, 14 rebs, 3 assist
Durant 25 points, 6 rebs, 0 assist
Game 4:
LeBron 26 points, 9 rebs, 12 assist!! (That's Magic Johnson numbers!!)
Durant 28 points, 2 rebs, 3 assist
Game 5:
LeBron 26 points, 11 rebs, 13 assist!! (Triple Double, plus every starter for the Heat was in double digits!!)
Durant 32 points, 11 rebs, 3 assist (Double Double, nice game)
As the series evolved, and both teams got to know each other LeBron found the open man, took the ball himself, grabbed rebounds were as Durant couldn't find the open man, or forced things up on his own. You know who Durant played like, LeBron in 2007. He was lost in the big moment, so he scored a lot of points and tried to force things that wasn't there. LeBron has hit that rare spot that very few have hit. He's a throwback to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, but we want him to be Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. He'll never be them, instead we should just enjoy a great player who plays like an 80's superstar.
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don't expect NIK to put up a valid argument to that M Dogg but great post
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BUT the Celtics as a team was owning the Lakers.
thanks for provin my point
We agree a lot on Kobe's greatness, don't get too big headed. But I also live in the real world, which separates us.
ur pretty awful at debating....u were tryna say that lebron is better than durant because he just won a ring. then i brought up the fact that kobe lost to the celtics in '08, but was still the hands-down best in the world. at the end of the day, the heat won against okc because they were better prepared, they were one year removed from losing in the finals, and executed properly. not cuz lebron was better than durant. like i said, if u wanna call lebron better than durant, go ahead. but he aint mj or kobe status, who were hands down the best with no one being a close second...there is still a lebron-durant debate, and there will continue to be a lebron-durant debate, until lebron has a few titles under his belt, not just one. and yea, of course more peeps currently pick lebron, being fresh off a championship and what not....but as far as individual talent, they are neck and neck, and i personally would take durant over lebron.....what dont u get in all that? what part of that sounds off to u?
WTF... you are the one arguing superstars win titles, and then you give Kobe a pass in 2008. I even left room in my arguments to give Kobe the best player in the league argument with two things, my pointing out that a group of 12 role players have 55 rings between them, and that Kobe was the best in the league in 2004-2007 even without an MVP trophy or ring. But I also said that in a 7 game series, that's when a player proves them self over another. So if Kobe was the dominate player in the 2008 series against the Celtics, then he proved to be the best player on the court, but the Celtics had the better team by far and even you have to admit Kobe looked pretty hopeless at the end.
As for LeBron s. Durant, which is the here and now, LeBron was more dominate than Durant, and that was head to head. When going against LeBron, Durant did not do as well. The only game Durant did better than LeBron, game 1. But then to say there is an argument off that would be to say Iverson was the best player in the league based off Game 1 of the 2001 Finals, he wasn't.
Game 1:
LeBron 30 points, 9 rebs, 4 assist
Durant 36 points, 8 rebs, 4 assist
Game 2:
LeBron 32 points, 8 rebs, 5 assist
Durant 32 points, 3 rebs, 1 assist
Game 3:
LeBron 29 points, 14 rebs, 3 assist
Durant 25 points, 6 rebs, 0 assist
Game 4:
LeBron 26 points, 9 rebs, 12 assist!! (That's Magic Johnson numbers!!)
Durant 28 points, 2 rebs, 3 assist
Game 5:
LeBron 26 points, 11 rebs, 13 assist!! (Triple Double, plus every starter for the Heat was in double digits!!)
Durant 32 points, 11 rebs, 3 assist (Double Double, nice game)
As the series evolved, and both teams got to know each other LeBron found the open man, took the ball himself, grabbed rebounds were as Durant couldn't find the open man, or forced things up on his own. You know who Durant played like, LeBron in 2007. He was lost in the big moment, so he scored a lot of points and tried to force things that wasn't there. LeBron has hit that rare spot that very few have hit. He's a throwback to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, but we want him to be Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. He'll never be them, instead we should just enjoy a great player who plays like an 80's superstar.
no, no....superstars don't have 2 win titles. Durant and LeBron are superstars. Melo and CP3 are superstars. GOATS typically have to win titles....Durant is still a superstar, regardless of whether he won or not. To say Durant played like Lebron in 2007 is a joke....Durant didn't let his team down. Durant's team let him down. In 2007 (as well as the other years LeBron choked), it was LeBron letting his team down, not the other way around. so thats not a fair comparison. With OKC, I'd say most of the blame goes to Westbrook for not distributing properly, with the rest of the blame going to the role players playing like they were all lost. Come on, the fuckin Heat role players shitted all over the OKC role players. they were ready. OKC was not. didnt they set three point records and shit? the Heat beasted, and LeBron beasted as well, but LeBron being better than Durant was not the difference in that series. Durant scored more on less field goal attempts...and the reason he had less field goal attempts was because Westbrook was shooting too much. either way, at the end of the day, there is a comparison to be made between 'em. and if u cant see that now, u will in the upcoming season...PeACe
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Durant>>>>>>>>>>everyone else
LOCK THIS THREAD UP
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I try not to get Involved in these debates anymore...it's like a hamster on a wheel.
Three things:
1) NIK is embarrassing himself(just because something is your personal opinion does not make it valid...only in your own mind do you get respect like that)
2) M Dogg is offering intelligent observations and insight, and is less biased than every poster here(including myself).
3) Durant is a GREAT player...but the thing he does best, he barely does better than Lebron (who gives a fuck if
His points are more effortless). Durant will improve, just like Lebron has. As of now, though, Bron effects more parts of the game positively for hi team, and that isn't even CLOSE.
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Deron Williams and Coach K said it best this summer: best 2 way player in the league that plays 1-5, on both defense and offense
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I try not to get Involved in these debates anymore...it's like a hamster on a wheel.
Three things:
1) NIK is embarrassing himself(just because something is your personal opinion does not make it valid...only in your own mind do you get respect like that)
2) M Dogg is offering intelligent observations and insight, and is less biased than every poster here(including myself).
3) Durant is a GREAT player...but the thing he does best, he barely does better than Lebron (who gives a fuck if
His points are more effortless). Durant will improve, just like Lebron has. As of now, though, Bron effects more parts of the game positively for hi team, and that isn't even CLOSE.
lol...whats more embarassing, saying there's a debate between lebron-durant, or suckin off lebron so hard to the point where ur acting like theres no one in his league? teecee, ur a joke of a poster, brodie. u come around every once in a while 2 say something dumb about me, and usually, i'm makin legit arguments, but ur so used 2 suckin my nuts that u always start ur post with some senseless dicklickin comment, such as "NIK is embarrassing".....bro, nothin i said was off the wall or "embarrassing"...my claim is that lebron and durant are on the same level. if u wanna debate that, fine, but quit soundin like a lil bitch, son.
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NIKCC, I stay away and dont post much mainly cuz it's the same moronic shit from you and has been for years.
Been on the board since 99 or 2000, and never had beef with one other member man, so calling me a "joke of a poster" is off base man
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NIKCC, I stay away and dont post much mainly cuz it's the same moronic shit from you and has been for years.
Been on the board since 99 or 2000, and never had beef with one other member man, so calling me a "joke of a poster" is off base man
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how can you hate on Teecee NIK? he was posting here b4 u!
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NIKCC, I stay away and dont post much mainly cuz it's the same moronic shit from you and has been for years.
Been on the board since 99 or 2000, and never had beef with one other member man, so calling me a "joke of a poster" is off base man
i dont give a fuck, u dumb muthafucka. i said durant and lebron are on the same level, as do many other analysts, fans, broadcasters, etc. it aint something off the wall...u coming at me incorrect because u dont agree with me is pathetic on your behalf, whether uv been postin here since 1999 or 1989, the year dont matter (lol, this board only opened in 2001, ya dumbshit)...nothing i said was "embarrassing", yet you ran up in this thread like ya shit dont stink and got slapped down. if u have nothing 2 say about the topic at hand, then dont say nothing. continue staying away and not posting much...seems like the only logical thing 2 do for u, at this point.
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NIKCC, I stay away and dont post much mainly cuz it's the same moronic shit from you and has been for years.
Been on the board since 99 or 2000, and never had beef with one other member man, so calling me a "joke of a poster" is off base man
i dont give a fuck, u dumb muthafucka. i said durant and lebron are on the same level, as do many other analysts, fans, broadcasters, etc. it aint something off the wall...u coming at me incorrect because u dont agree with me is pathetic on your behalf, whether uv been postin here since 1999 or 1989, the year dont matter (lol, this board only opened in 2001, ya dumbshit)...nothing i said was "embarrassing", yet you ran up in this thread like ya shit dont stink and got slapped down. if u have nothing 2 say about the topic at hand, then dont say nothing. continue staying away and not posting much...seems like the only logical thing 2 do for u, at this point.
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At least you've found how to turn off the CAPS LOCK.
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it'd be hard pressed to find someone who says Durant is better than Lebron after that finals series
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LOL @ NIK saying "Kobe lost in '08 but was still the best player" when he fought for literal decades that "rings = everything".
LeBron wins a ring & it's no big deal anymore, it's all "Well it's obvious just by watching that.... >>>> LeBron".
Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor.
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LOL @ NIK saying "Kobe lost in '08 but was still the best player" when he fought for literal decades that "rings = everything".
LeBron wins a ring & it's no big deal anymore, it's all "Well it's obvious just by watching that.... >>>> LeBron".
Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor.
rings mean everything. if lebron woulda ended his career with 0 rings, he woulda been the biggest failure in sports history. but winning 1 ring still doesnt put u amongst the GOAT's. Durant and LeBron are still in the same category as far as ranking goes. if their careers ended today, lebron would have the better legacy, of course. but as far as talent goes, they're neck and neck.
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NIK is Jerry West over rated then?
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NIK is Jerry West over rated then?
West won a ring.
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NIK is Jerry West over rated then?
West won a ring.
yes. A ring.
same as Lebron ;)
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NIK is Jerry West over rated then?
the reason west isnt as glorified as magic, bird, kobe, mj etc. is because he only won 1 ring.
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LOL @ NIK saying "Kobe lost in '08 but was still the best player" when he fought for literal decades that "rings = everything".
LeBron wins a ring & it's no big deal anymore, it's all "Well it's obvious just by watching that.... >>>> LeBron".
Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor.
rings mean everything. if lebron woulda ended his career with 0 rings, he woulda been the biggest failure in sports history. but winning 1 ring still doesnt put u amongst the GOAT's. Durant and LeBron are still in the same category as far as ranking goes. if their careers ended today, lebron would have the better legacy, of course. but as far as talent goes, they're neck and neck.
LOL, you're a sad troll, my man.
Stop playin', kid. I already said it, "Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor".
I'll say this right now without hesitation. Kobe in his absolute prime ain't that much better than Durant is right now. Durant's a better pure shooter & plays with a guy who fucks up his game rather than compliments it. Kobe played with the best big man since Wilt Chamberlain & then in a DEAD league outside of Boston who you wouldn't even have beaten a second time if Perkins played.
Fuck a legacy, talent is the only true discussion. That's like saying Dr. Dre is a better rapper than Tech N9ne because Dre has more of a legacy, yet we all know Dre can't rap like that.
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Kobe in his absolute prime ain't that much better than Durant is right now.
lmao...then u say durant aint on lebron's level. despicable.
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LOL @ NIK saying "Kobe lost in '08 but was still the best player" when he fought for literal decades that "rings = everything".
LeBron wins a ring & it's no big deal anymore, it's all "Well it's obvious just by watching that.... >>>> LeBron".
Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor.
rings mean everything. if lebron woulda ended his career with 0 rings, he woulda been the biggest failure in sports history. but winning 1 ring still doesnt put u amongst the GOAT's. Durant and LeBron are still in the same category as far as ranking goes. if their careers ended today, lebron would have the better legacy, of course. but as far as talent goes, they're neck and neck.
LOL, you're a sad troll, my man.
Stop playin', kid. I already said it, "Durant can shoot better, that's about where the comparisons stop in Durant's favor".
I'll say this right now without hesitation. Kobe in his absolute prime ain't that much better than Durant is right now. Durant's a better pure shooter & plays with a guy who fucks up his game rather than compliments it. Kobe played with the best big man since Wilt Chamberlain & then in a DEAD league outside of Boston who you wouldn't even have beaten a second time if Perkins played.
Fuck a legacy, talent is the only true discussion. That's like saying Dr. Dre is a better rapper than Tech N9ne because Dre has more of a legacy, yet we all know Dre can't rap like that.
There I'd have to disagree. Kobe showed what can happen in his absolute prime with no help. He scores 81 points and the sad part is LA needed all 81 to win. Kobe was the most complete scorer since MJ, and is in the top 5 scorers of all time. The only scorers that were better were Wilt, Kareem and MJ... and you can argue Elgin Baylor. Durant is NOT on that level., not even close. Kobe is the only player outside of Michael Jordan to average 35 ppg since Rick Berry in 1967! Think of that, since 1967 only 2 players have averaged 35 ppg, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. That's it, there is no rest. Not even Kareen who at best averaged 34.8 ppg. Kobe was in his absolute prime starting in 2002-2003, where he averaged 30 ppg regular season WITH SHAQ, and 32.1 ppg WITH SHAQ in the playoffs, and he was the leading scorer of the Lakers in 2003 and 2004 with Shaq, Malone and Payton. Kobe in his absolute prime was head and shoulders above Durant, lets not get it twisted.
Here is why you can argue LeBron but not Durant. LeBron is a different player. He's a throwback to the 1980's stars, they dominate all aspects of the game. Kobe and MJ were different, they were highly skilled scorers, there has not been players like them that have been as good. I mean you get great scorers like Nate Archibald, Pete Maravich, Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Dominique Wilkins. These are all great players, but they were no where near Kobe or MJ levels in terms of intensity and just flat out skill. Kobe and Michael are like Nas and Rakim if you are comparing rappers to ballers. They are the ones that were so skilled that everyone tried to compare their games to them. Durant without a championship will join that Iverson, McGrady, Wilkins crowd, great players but no rings.
LeBron joins the Magic, Dr. J, Jerry West, Larry Bird crowd right now. These are icons of the games, they define their generations as much as Kobe or MJ, but they are not the skilled scores that MJ and Kobe. But in many ways they cover more of the game than Kobe and MJ, as they focused on passing, they focused on rebounds and they changed any game they were in. Imagine if West has a 3 point-line in the 60's, you can bet he scores way more points. Even with one ring LeBron joins these players (hell West and Dr. J only have one ring).
Durant's career is not written yet, and LeBron's book is only starting, well at least the good part. As I've stressed, lets just sit back and enjoy the show. Barring injury, both should be really good.
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M Dogg is spitting pure knowledge. Props
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M Dogg is spitting pure knowledge. Props
only thing i disagree with is that lebron, after one ring, is in the same class as magic, bird, mj, etc....lets not forget, this is the same lebron who choked and let his team down countless times. so for that 1 ring, theres about 4-5 failures and epic chokejobs to go along with it. it'll take more than 1 ring to erase all those meltdowns.
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M Dogg is spitting pure knowledge. Props
only thing i disagree with is that lebron, after one ring, is in the same class as magic, bird, mj, etc....lets not forget, this is the same lebron who choked and let his team down countless times. so for that 1 ring, theres about 4-5 failures and epic chokejobs to go along with it. it'll take more than 1 ring to erase all those meltdowns.
With the exception of MJ, it happens to the best.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YQ1bd2g3p1Y?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
With players in LeBron's level, it seems to happen more because they depend on their teammates to make plays as well. LeBron is a different kind of player. Once you realize you can't compare him to MJ or Kobe, you'll realize him for what he is. He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game, and someone who "makes the right play." And for years, "making the right play" cost him, it cost him big. The one area that troubles me with LeBron is that it sometimes seemed like he quit. When his back was against the wall, he quit. But he was also younger than everyone else doing what he was doing. He was no developed mentally for it, and I almost felt skipping college would damage his career to the point that he may never win a ring. Skipping college as so hurtful to LeBron that his first 5-6 years he was a man child on the court expecting to play like a man. By 2008/2009 when people expected him to deliver, he didn't know how. And I thought he'd never learn.
Some players need college, and a talent like LeBron needed college. The NBA is a produce now league, and had LeBron went to college he'd have had time to grow him game, he'd have had a coach like Coach K who'd have found his strengths and make that who he is. I feel like Mike Brown right now is barely learning how to coach in the NBA, and he's been the head coach of LeBron for 7 years. LeBron's worst mistake is not going to college. A player like KG is different, you know their game, he knows his game, same with Kobe, or Tracy McGrady, or Tyson Chandler, or Dwight Howard. LeBron didn't know his game yet, everyone just knew he was big, he was fast and he was strong. He's a different animal, but the same beast as everyone else. The problem was, no one knew how to coach him, at least until he got to Pat Riley's system. Eric Spoelstra is a Pat Riley disciple, and Riley is calling the shots in Miami. Do you think that LeBron finally put it all together this year on his own? No, he's in Pat Riley's house and Riley coached Magic, he coached Ewing, Shaq, Wade. Riley knows what he is doing and he can get the best out of talent. LeBron is in the best place for him. And sadly, this will get him a few more NBA titles, but I don't see more than 4. At least not with the Heat built as is, as Wade is on the down hill slide of his career, and Bosh is always rumored to be traded. Still, it will be a fun ride.
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M Dogg is spitting pure knowledge. Props
only thing i disagree with is that lebron, after one ring, is in the same class as magic, bird, mj, etc....lets not forget, this is the same lebron who choked and let his team down countless times. so for that 1 ring, theres about 4-5 failures and epic chokejobs to go along with it. it'll take more than 1 ring to erase all those meltdowns.
With the exception of MJ, it happens to the best.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YQ1bd2g3p1Y?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
With players in LeBron's level, it seems to happen more because they depend on their teammates to make plays as well. LeBron is a different kind of player. Once you realize you can't compare him to MJ or Kobe, you'll realize him for what he is. He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game, and someone who "makes the right play." And for years, "making the right play" cost him, it cost him big. The one area that troubles me with LeBron is that it sometimes seemed like he quit. When his back was against the wall, he quit. But he was also younger than everyone else doing what he was doing. He was no developed mentally for it, and I almost felt skipping college would damage his career to the point that he may never win a ring. Skipping college as so hurtful to LeBron that his first 5-6 years he was a man child on the court expecting to play like a man. By 2008/2009 when people expected him to deliver, he didn't know how. And I thought he'd never learn.
Some players need college, and a talent like LeBron needed college. The NBA is a produce now league, and had LeBron went to college he'd have had time to grow him game, he'd have had a coach like Coach K who'd have found his strengths and make that who he is. I feel like Mike Brown right now is barely learning how to coach in the NBA, and he's been the head coach of LeBron for 7 years. LeBron's worst mistake is not going to college. A player like KG is different, you know their game, he knows his game, same with Kobe, or Tracy McGrady, or Tyson Chandler, or Dwight Howard. LeBron didn't know his game yet, everyone just knew he was big, he was fast and he was strong. He's a different animal, but the same beast as everyone else. The problem was, no one knew how to coach him, at least until he got to Pat Riley's system. Eric Spoelstra is a Pat Riley disciple, and Riley is calling the shots in Miami. Do you think that LeBron finally put it all together this year on his own? No, he's in Pat Riley's house and Riley coached Magic, he coached Ewing, Shaq, Wade. Riley knows what he is doing and he can get the best out of talent. LeBron is in the best place for him. And sadly, this will get him a few more NBA titles, but I don't see more than 4. At least not with the Heat built as is, as Wade is on the down hill slide of his career, and Bosh is always rumored to be traded. Still, it will be a fun ride.
Magic has more championships than he does chokejobs...if he had 5 chokejobs and 1 ring, i would also place him in the same category as lebron currently is.
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He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game
*cough* Shaq *cough*
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Is it fair to say LeBron went much further with shitty teams than Kobe did when he didnt have a supporting cast?
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^nope...those LeBron teams were always amongst the best and the league and sometimes even picked to win it all. the Kobe teams with Smuh-Luke-Kwame werent even expected 2 make the playoffs. The difference is that LeBron failed his team, while Kobe's team failed him. pretty much night and day.
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Is it fair to say LeBron went much further with shitty teams than Kobe did when he didnt have a supporting cast?
Fair to say? It's a bonafide fact lmao. This nigga above me is saying Smush Parker like Daniel Gibson was an all-star. His teams were the best in the league & picked to win it all because LeBron was on the team.
But in the playoffs, you need a reliable second man to score & he didn't have that. They basically dared his supporting cast to step up & future Hall of Famer Big Z couldn't answer the call.
As for M Dogg speaking on Durant now to Kobe in his prime...Kobe was known to be a ballhog with the teams he beat the Celtics with...imagine how much worse it was when he had no one there? He scored 35 because he was all alone. Did anybody on that team even score close to 15 ppg? Take Westbrook out of the equation, shooting way more shots than KD & controlling the ball & KD could easily put up 35. Despite Westbrook stealing so many shots from him, along with Harden, Durant still managed to lead the league in scoring lol.
I'll give Kobe being better at creating a shot, but Durant just shoots over niggas.
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Is it fair to say LeBron went much further with shitty teams than Kobe did when he didnt have a supporting cast?
Fair to say? It's a bonafide fact lmao. This nigga above me is saying Smush Parker like Daniel Gibson was an all-star. His teams were the best in the league & picked to win it all because LeBron was on the team.
But in the playoffs, you need a reliable second man to score & he didn't have that. They basically dared his supporting cast to step up & future Hall of Famer Big Z couldn't answer the call.
As for M Dogg speaking on Durant now to Kobe in his prime...Kobe was known to be a ballhog with the teams he beat the Celtics with...imagine how much worse it was when he had no one there? He scored 35 because he was all alone. Did anybody on that team even score close to 15 ppg? Take Westbrook out of the equation, shooting way more shots than KD & controlling the ball & KD could easily put up 35. Despite Westbrook stealing so many shots from him, along with Harden, Durant still managed to lead the league in scoring lol.
I'll give Kobe being better at creating a shot, but Durant just shoots over niggas.
Kobe in his prime >>>>>>>>>>>>> Durant>LeBron
let it marinate
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Shaq > Lebron in his prime > Durant > Kobe
8)
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He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game
*cough* Shaq *cough*
I use to think no one would be as dominate as Shaq, but LeBron is just as strong, faster and where he plays, he's bigger than Shaq is to other centers. Shaq is like Wilt, LeBron is like Magic playing the point.
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He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game
*cough* Shaq *cough*
I use to think no one would be as dominate as Shaq, but LeBron is just as strong, faster and where he plays, he's bigger than Shaq is to other centers. Shaq is like Wilt, LeBron is like Magic playing the point.
lmfao...uve went nuts
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He's the most physically dominating player in the history of the game
*cough* Shaq *cough*
I use to think no one would be as dominate as Shaq, but LeBron is just as strong, faster and where he plays, he's bigger than Shaq is to other centers. Shaq is like Wilt, LeBron is like Magic playing the point.
lmfao...uve went nuts
i agree with him
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First off, you hate Shaq, so why you defending him. I was the big Shaq fan. I was the one sad he left the Lakers, and I can admit this, You can't be the most physically dominating player in the game if you are always trying to come into the season in shape.
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First off, you hate Shaq, so why you defending him. I was the big Shaq fan. I was the one sad he left the Lakers, and I can admit this,You can't be the most physically dominating player in the game if you are always trying to come into the season in shape.
Shaq was also lucky he had weaker opponents because Hakeem and ewing were done by then
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First off, you hate Shaq, so why you defending him. I was the big Shaq fan. I was the one sad he left the Lakers, and I can admit this, You can't be the most physically dominating player in the game if you are always trying to come into the season in shape.
i hated shaq's personality, but i am a fair man...i can still admit he was a BEAST and one of the GOAT centers. it's just that he coulda been THEE GOAT, if it wasnt for his bitchassness and lack of work ethic.
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also to say LeBron is as dominating as Shaq was in his prime is not only a joke, but a slap in the face to anyone who understands just how dominant Shaq was in his prime. it really is a mockery, and if u cant see that, i feel sorry for u.
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
If LeBron was a starting center or starting power forward, he could not dominate from those positions.
Shaq was unstoppable... They literally had to have three players on him, and would still have to foul him to stop him. Unbelievable domination. Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
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Lebron will show you wrong this next year lol
Lebron at PF is like Karl Malone with steroids
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Lebron will show you wrong this next year lol
Lebron at PF is like Karl Malone with steroids
lmfao
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
If LeBron was a starting center or starting power forward, he could not dominate from those positions.
Shaq was unstoppable... They literally had to have three players on him, and would still have to foul him to stop him. Unbelievable domination. Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
You just can't admit you are wrong... dude, stop acting like a kid, it was cute 10 years ago, it's really sad now.
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Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
Won NBA Finals (4-1) versus Oklahoma City Thunder
Won NBA Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) versus Boston Celtics
Won NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) versus Indiana Pacers
Won NBA Eastern Conference First Round (4-1) versus New York Knicks
seems like he had more problems going head to head with Rajon Rondo and Paul Pierce in a seven game series than he did against Durant :eh:
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
If LeBron was a starting center or starting power forward, he could not dominate from those positions.
Shaq was unstoppable... They literally had to have three players on him, and would still have to foul him to stop him. Unbelievable domination. Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
You just can't admit you are wrong... dude, stop acting like a kid, it was cute 10 years ago, it's really sad now.
oh yea, i'm wrong....lebron is more dominant than shaq was.
lmfao...ur starting to sound like the lebron-trolls (aka hack)....smfh@you, son
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Won NBA Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) versus Boston Celtics
Won NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) versus Indiana Pacers
damn...straight domination
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Won NBA Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) versus Boston Celtics
Won NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) versus Indiana Pacers
damn...straight domination
bosh ws out vs indy and bron killed em
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Won NBA Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) versus Boston Celtics
Won NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) versus Indiana Pacers
damn...straight domination
bosh ws out vs indy and bron killed em
hate 2 break it to ya, but being down 2-1 to a middle-of-the-pack indiana team followed by being down 3-2 to an aging celtics team isnt exactly dominating...they won, barely edging out their opponents. big difference between that and domination. lakers in 2001=domination. to compare what lebron did this year to that is pretty pathetic, and mdogg should have his laker-fan status revoked because of it. i understand ur trollin, tho, so keep doin ya thang.
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the Heat dominated the Thunder who have your boy Durant
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
If LeBron was a starting center or starting power forward, he could not dominate from those positions.
Shaq was unstoppable... They literally had to have three players on him, and would still have to foul him to stop him. Unbelievable domination. Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
You just can't admit you are wrong... dude, stop acting like a kid, it was cute 10 years ago, it's really sad now.
oh yea, i'm wrong....lebron is more dominant than shaq was.
lmfao...ur starting to sound like the lebron-trolls (aka hack)....smfh@you, son
I'm just calling them like I see them. I'm not an obsessive homer like you. I am very confident in the Laker's history and legacy as a fan. Think of it, NBA titles go like this, Boston 17, Los Angeles 16....... Chicago 6, San Antonio 4, Philadelphia, Detroit and Golden State 3 each.
That's a lot of championships, that's a lot of winning and I can care less if a Laker is the most physically dominate player, of it the Lakers have the best player today, or if LeBron ever wins 5 NBA titles, or 6. Because as the 90's prove, even if another team has the greatest player in the game, the Lakers and Boston are so far ahead that at the end of the day they both will still be #1 and #2 best franchises in the league. Hell, ESPN ranked the Lakers greatest franchise in NBA history because they make the playoffs at a better rate than the Celtics and their titles are more spread out over different eras.
That's all I care about. I don't care about LeBron's legacy because it does not effect the Lakers bottom line, period, point blank. Kobe Bryant will still go down as the best player from 2003-2012. That's 9 years of dominating, that's a longer reign on top of the game than Michael Jordan. Was Kobe as great as Michael Jordan, no, but he was at his peak longer. And guess what, LeBron played all those years, so people will look at Kobe as better than LeBron at the end of the day.
BUT, knowing this, I can also see the game for what it is, and right now LeBron James is the best player in the game today. He is the most physically dominating player I have ever seen. He's not like Shaq, Shaq was a bog guy in the middle who can run the break. LeBron is a power forward, player small forward, with point guard skills and center strength. He is a true freak of nature. I have no problem saying that, because it's true.
Sccit, once you realize just how much work it would take for LeBron to win 4 more titles with a depleting D-Wade and an injury prone Chris Bosh, and how many titles it would take for the Heat to even join the Spurs/Bulls conversation on greatest franchises, let along get next to the Lakers or Celtics, then you too can realize it's okay to give another team and another player their due. And another thing I thought you'd learn about being a Laker fan, don't get too down on another teams talent, because you never know if they'll ever be a Laker... it's just the way it is.
(http://www.fearla.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Gary_Payton_Lakers.jpg)
Former Supersonic, a hated enemy of the Great Western Forum
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/page2/photos/040514malone.jpg)
Eliminated the Lakers more than once from the playoffs
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTX-GNrg8ldNezAj7dz-TiWqbNQ6-eL0eIP6lUBtedo9dgSUmkuVA&t=1)
Sharpshoot from the east
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBCFkK-ePHnOP2y-BFbuTZ_ZDBMvxJ9HyvnPcu4fa4svlMNJDq&t=1)
Hated Bad Boy Piston, then Spur, then Bull, Bull who Chick Herns once declared his hatred towards.
(http://img.fannation.com/upload/truth_rumor/photo_upload/110/916/full/Ron-Artest-Lakers.jpg)
Became a heated rival with Kobe Bryant, and was a hated enemy of the Staple Center no matter the uniform.
Now
(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4566737/20120409_ajw_aj5_317_extra_large.jpg)
Eliminated the Lakers twice from the playoffs, and stole two MVP trophies from Kobe
(http://lakernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/430258_10151010889431028_863463075_n-260x300.jpg)
Led the Magic against the Lakers in the NBA Finals, hated enemy of Shaq and always compared to Laker Andrew Bynum
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the Heat dominated the Thunder who have your boy Durant
the heat BEAT the thunder...most games came down to the wire, and were lost on Oklahoma's inexperience (ie, making dumb turnovers down the stretch, lack of proper execution in the 4th, westbrook jackin up shots early in the shot clock when they had a comfy lead).....like i said, domination was lakers in 2001. to compare that to how the heat won this year is a mockery, and expected from a troll-artist.....but mdogg? smfh. u doin him dirty right now, eggin' him on and shit lmao
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the Heat dominated the Thunder who have your boy Durant
the heat BEAT the thunder...most games came down to the wire, and were lost on Oklahoma's inexperience (ie, making dumb turnovers down the stretch, lack of proper execution in the 4th, westbrook jackin up shots early in the shot clock when they had a comfy lead).....like i said, domination was lakers in 2001. to compare that to how the heat won this year is a mockery, and expected from a troll-artist.....but mdogg? smfh. u doin him dirty right now, eggin' him on and shit lmao
when you beat another team four times in a row you dominated them.
durant played great game 1 and thats it, Lebron was great the entire series and showed us why he is the King
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Lebron just showed us that he can play all 5 positions in the playoffs
that's fucking dominant
If LeBron was a starting center or starting power forward, he could not dominate from those positions.
Shaq was unstoppable... They literally had to have three players on him, and would still have to foul him to stop him. Unbelievable domination. Not like LeBron, who has head to head match ups with Durant, which could go either way. That is not dominating.
You just can't admit you are wrong... dude, stop acting like a kid, it was cute 10 years ago, it's really sad now.
oh yea, i'm wrong....lebron is more dominant than shaq was.
lmfao...ur starting to sound like the lebron-trolls (aka hack)....smfh@you, son
I'm just calling them like I see them. I'm not an obsessive homer like you. I am very confident in the Laker's history and legacy as a fan. Think of it, NBA titles go like this, Boston 17, Los Angeles 16....... Chicago 6, San Antonio 4, Philadelphia, Detroit and Golden State 3 each.
That's a lot of championships, that's a lot of winning and I can care less if a Laker is the most physically dominate player, of it the Lakers have the best player today, or if LeBron ever wins 5 NBA titles, or 6. Because as the 90's prove, even if another team has the greatest player in the game, the Lakers and Boston are so far ahead that at the end of the day they both will still be #1 and #2 best franchises in the league. Hell, ESPN ranked the Lakers greatest franchise in NBA history because they make the playoffs at a better rate than the Celtics and their titles are more spread out over different eras.
That's all I care about. I don't care about LeBron's legacy because it does not effect the Lakers bottom line, period, point blank. Kobe Bryant will still go down as the best player from 2003-2012. That's 9 years of dominating, that's a longer reign on top of the game than Michael Jordan. Was Kobe as great as Michael Jordan, no, but he was at his peak longer. And guess what, LeBron played all those years, so people will look at Kobe as better than LeBron at the end of the day.
BUT, knowing this, I can also see the game for what it is, and right now LeBron James is the best player in the game today. He is the most physically dominating player I have ever seen. He's not like Shaq, Shaq was a bog guy in the middle who can run the break. LeBron is a power forward, player small forward, with point guard skills and center strength. He is a true freak of nature. I have no problem saying that, because it's true.
Sccit, once you realize just how much work it would take for LeBron to win 4 more titles with a depleting D-Wade and an injury prone Chris Bosh, and how many titles it would take for the Heat to even join the Spurs/Bulls conversation on greatest franchises, let along get next to the Lakers or Celtics, then you too can realize it's okay to give another team and another player their due. And another thing I thought you'd learn about being a Laker fan, don't get too down on another teams talent, because you never know if they'll ever be a Laker... it's just the way it is.
(http://www.fearla.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Gary_Payton_Lakers.jpg)
Former Supersonic, a hated enemy of the Great Western Forum
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/page2/photos/040514malone.jpg)
Eliminated the Lakers more than once from the playoffs
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTX-GNrg8ldNezAj7dz-TiWqbNQ6-eL0eIP6lUBtedo9dgSUmkuVA&t=1)
Sharpshoot from the east
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBCFkK-ePHnOP2y-BFbuTZ_ZDBMvxJ9HyvnPcu4fa4svlMNJDq&t=1)
Hated Bad Boy Piston, then Spur, then Bull, Bull who Chick Herns once declared his hatred towards.
(http://img.fannation.com/upload/truth_rumor/photo_upload/110/916/full/Ron-Artest-Lakers.jpg)
Became a heated rival with Kobe Bryant, and was a hated enemy of the Staple Center no matter the uniform.
Now
(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4566737/20120409_ajw_aj5_317_extra_large.jpg)
Eliminated the Lakers twice from the playoffs, and stole two MVP trophies from Kobe
(http://lakernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/430258_10151010889431028_863463075_n-260x300.jpg)
Led the Magic against the Lakers in the NBA Finals, hated enemy of Shaq and always compared to Laker Andrew Bynum
thats great and all, but to say lebron is as dominant as shaq was in his peak is STILL a mockery...and to not understand that if LeBron WAS in the league of MJ's/Kobe's/Magic's, then he WOULD win another 3-4 titles, AT LEAST. it's just the way it is. he's a great athlete and a beast, no doubt. but ur acting like ur way too caught up in the hype right about now....he's still a lot closer to durant/wade/dominque good, as opposed to magic/mj/kobe good. dont get 2 caught up in the hype, my boy...i can tell ur a brainwashable cat. but let it play out before u start dubbing lebron "the most dominant player ever", cuz u gunna be lookin back at this in a couple of years and start slappin the shit out yaself.
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the Heat dominated the Thunder who have your boy Durant
the heat BEAT the thunder...most games came down to the wire, and were lost on Oklahoma's inexperience (ie, making dumb turnovers down the stretch, lack of proper execution in the 4th, westbrook jackin up shots early in the shot clock when they had a comfy lead).....like i said, domination was lakers in 2001. to compare that to how the heat won this year is a mockery, and expected from a troll-artist.....but mdogg? smfh. u doin him dirty right now, eggin' him on and shit lmao
when you beat another team four times in a row you dominated them.
durant played great game 1 and thats it, Lebron was great the entire series and showed us why he is the King
dominating is dominating...after the first 4 games, miami coulda easily been down 3-1, if only oklahoma woulda executed properly down the stretch and took care of the ball in the final minutes. that is not dominating, bro. thats barely winning. u really need 2 see the difference on this 1 lol
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thats great and all, but to say lebron is as dominant as shaq was in his peak is STILL a mockery...and to not understand that if LeBron WAS in the league of MJ's/Kobe's/Magic's, then he WOULD win another 3-4 titles, AT LEAST. it's just the way it is. he's a great athlete and a beast, no doubt. but ur acting like ur way too caught up in the hype right about now....he's still a lot closer to durant/wade/dominque good, as opposed to magic/mj/kobe good. dont get 2 caught up in the hype, my boy...i can tell ur a brainwashable cat. but let it play out before u start dubbing lebron "the most dominant player ever", cuz u gunna be lookin back at this in a couple of years and start slappin the shit out yaself.
Nah dogg, it's to say that LeBron had one of the best single years of basketball history, it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000, and it's to say that I am secure enough in Laker history and Kobe Bryant's legacy to admit it.
Bottom line, Shaq could not guard a point guard, a shooting guard, the pick and roll, and many times Shaq and a liability late in games. That's how Kobe became the closer to begin with. Shaq would dominate from the first quarter to the middle of the 4th, then Phil would have to take him out on offense if the game was close, or take him out on D depending on the match up, and Kobe would close the game. LeBron until this year was a liability late in game too, only he'd choke. But guess what, in 2012 LeBron didn't choke. Not only that but he was a better defender at more positions than Shaq. Shaq could not defend on a switch, or a pick and roll, or a high screen. In 2000 he was at his best, best year he ever had, and it was great. Still, I'd put 2012 LeBron over 2000 Shaq any day of the week. Now that it's over, the question is, can 2013 LeBron be better than 2001 Shaq, this year will show if LeBron is on an incline, or a decline. 2001 Shaq was NOT as good as 2000 Shaq, but the 2001 Lakers were better than 2000 Lakers. I'm already calling the 2012 Heat>>>2013 Heat. But it's up to LeBron to work hard for number 2.
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it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000
lmfao....i couldnt stop laughing, brodie. i'm sorry. i tried reading the rest of your post, but i think im guna have 2 let the laughter subside.
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alright...i was able to calm down and read the rest of your post. lemme just say that if shaq in his prime was on the current Heat in place of lebron, they would threepeat with ease. it's not even funny. i cant even believe u out of all people would say this. i dont get it.
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it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000
lmfao....i couldnt stop laughing, brodie. i'm sorry. i tried reading the rest of your post, but i think im guna have 2 let the laughter subside.
Poor guy, if anything, if I can get you to be a Shaq fan, I still win...
http://www.youtube.com/v/qPKTLLb80Ns?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
alright...i was able to calm down and read the rest of your post. lemme just say that if shaq in his prime was on the current Heat in place of lebron, they would threepeat with ease. it's not even funny. i cant even believe u out of all people would say this. i dont get it.
I would agree, because looking back, Shaq's decline was not that much, but he was declining after 2000. But as he declined, he was still good enough to win for another 5 seasons. But in 2001, Shaq had a Kobe averaging 30 points a game, same in 2002, and in 2003 the Lakers just looked older as their depth was starting to show it's age, and by the end of 2004 Kobe was the main scorer and closer.
Let's put it like this, If you take 1998 Shaq on this current Heat's team, the Heat win. 1998 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron, and 1999 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron. Hell, 2001-2003 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron. BUT 2012 LeBron is better than any year Shaq. 2013, I don't know, LeBron could get better, but maybe not. I have a hard time seeing LeBron have a better year than this year. Also, in a shorten year, LeBron was still dominating, while everyone else was getting injured. It's just a reflection of how hard it is not to get injured in a shorten season.
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it doesnt matter what u think, lebron is nowhere near as dominant as shaq in his prime....NOWHERE NEAR as dominant. do u get it?
go ask around....and not on espn forums. go talk to some educated basketball heads. u sound like a teenager right now.
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it doesnt matter what u think, lebron is nowhere near as dominant as shaq in his prime....NOWHERE NEAR as dominant. do u get it?
go ask around....and not on espn forums. go talk to some educated basketball heads. u sound like a teenager right now.
Why ask around, I see it with my own eyes, and I am saying LeBron James is the most physically dominating player I've ever seen. No questions about it. I've never seen someone as big as him, still move as fast as him, defend a point guard, defend a power foward, defend the other teams best player, and still be strong on offense. Not even Shaq. Shaq was great at standing in the paint and waiting to block layups.
Admit it Sccit, you have no true argument.
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it doesnt matter what u think, lebron is nowhere near as dominant as shaq in his prime....NOWHERE NEAR as dominant. do u get it?
go ask around....and not on espn forums. go talk to some educated basketball heads. u sound like a teenager right now.
Why ask around, I see it with my own eyes, and I am saying LeBron James is the most physically dominating player I've ever seen. No questions about it. I've never seen someone as big as him, still move as fast as him, defend a point guard, defend a power foward, defend the other teams best player, and still be strong on offense. Not even Shaq. Shaq was great at standing in the paint and waiting to block layups.
Admit it Sccit, you have no true argument.
Wtf are u talking about... Shaq would overpower three players at once. U could only stop him by fouling. He would get fouled on literally every possession. And ud still be riskin the good chance of an and1.....LeBron could be stopped with good one on one defense. They're not even in the same league as far as domination goes. This shits gettin pretty sad.
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who doesn't Lebron overpower??
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who doesn't Lebron overpower??
Dwight Howard :D
Seriously, tho, when shaq was in his prime, not only could he overpower any player in the league, he was able to overpower 2 players combined......wit ease.
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who doesn't Lebron overpower??
Dwight Howard :D
Seriously, tho, when shaq was in his prime, not only could he overpower any player in the league, he was able to overpower 2 players combined......wit ease.
This warms my heart, it actually does. Though you are partly right, everyone except:
Elden Campbell
Hakeem
Mutumbo
David Robinson
Ewing
Rodman
Divac
Now where all of them successful, well that varied, but all usually guard Shaq one on one and Hakeem was able to make Shaq look silly.
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Hakeem shitted on Shaq 4 games in a row in the finals
and Hakeem killed Ewing the year prior
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who doesn't Lebron overpower??
Dwight Howard :D
Seriously, tho, when shaq was in his prime, not only could he overpower any player in the league, he was able to overpower 2 players combined......wit ease.
This warms my heart, it actually does. Though you are partly right, everyone except:
Elden Campbell
Hakeem
Mutumbo
David Robinson
Ewing
Rodman
Divac
Now where all of them successful, well that varied, but all usually guard Shaq one on one and Hakeem was able to make Shaq look silly.
hakeem never faced shaq in his prime....and the rest of those names are laughable in comparison to shaq. shaq completely shitted on all those names from 2000-2003, and it wasnt even close.
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Hakeem faced Shaq when Shaq was in his physical best shape
meanwhile Hakeem was fasting every year and starving his ass off during games
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who doesn't Lebron overpower??
Dwight Howard :D
Seriously, tho, when shaq was in his prime, not only could he overpower any player in the league, he was able to overpower 2 players combined......wit ease.
This warms my heart, it actually does. Though you are partly right, everyone except:
Elden Campbell
Hakeem
Mutumbo
David Robinson
Ewing
Rodman
Divac
Now where all of them successful, well that varied, but all usually guard Shaq one on one and Hakeem was able to make Shaq look silly.
hakeem never faced shaq in his prime....and the rest of those names are laughable in comparison to shaq. shaq completely shitted on all those names from 2000-2003, and it wasnt even close.
I did say with mixed results.
Bottom line, LeBron is a pure athlete, most physically dominating player I had ever seen in 2012. Shaq, at his best he was a force of nature, but he spent too much time trying to stay in shape. LeBron is always in shape, always working at getting better.
Point of everything I argued,
1. To prove LeBron is the best player today, Sccit finally gave up and punted on his argument
2. To prove that LeBron is the most physically dominating player in NBA history, Sccit's responses have been childish.
3. To show that Sccit has huge holes in his arguments about rings being everything, well that was too easy and even Sccit talks about Kobe's 2008 season where he was the best player but Boston had the best team.
4. To make Sccit like Shaq, and guess what, Sccit is arguing on Shaq's side as if Shaq was Kobe!!!
I love this board.
One thing I will say, I will never say Shaq is better than Kwame Brown, because Sccit will prove me wrong on that.
The world according to Sccit... Kwame is better than Eldin Campbell, Campbell always guarded Shaq one on one in his career, even when Shaq was a Magic, and Eldin always held Shaq when he guarded him one on one, therefore Eldin=Shaq.
Therefore according to Sccit, Kwame Brown>>>Shaquille O' Neal.
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Kwame over Shaq is like saying Mark Sanchez is better than Peyton Manning lol
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lol, i didnt even bother replyin 2 that nonsense
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lol, i didnt even bother replyin 2 that nonsense
Because it was...
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to be real, when i read that u said "his the most physically dominating player I had ever seen in 2012" i took a step back and realized what i was up against
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to be real, when i read that u said "his the most physically dominating player I had ever seen in 2012" i took a step back and realized what i was up against
not as dominating as Jordan Farmar of course
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to be real, when i read that u said "his the most physically dominating player I had ever seen in 2012" i took a step back and realized what i was up against
Awww... you knew the context... but of course I can never compare to the thought provoking post you have, which consist of you ranting and raving about anything and everything, and switching arguments to back your claim. After all, I got you to post positively about Shaq...
(http://royaltyfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kb-shaq.jpg)
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to be real, when i read that u said "his the most physically dominating player I had ever seen in 2012" i took a step back and realized what i was up against
Awww... you knew the context... but of course I can never compare to the thought provoking post you have, which consist of you ranting and raving about anything and everything, and switching arguments to back your claim. After all, I got you to post positively about Shaq...
(http://royaltyfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kb-shaq.jpg)
i only speak the real, mdoggydogg....i'm not a brainwashable individual. i never denied shaq's greatness as a player...ever.
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this is Ron Artest in the off season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LvPT9T6M8&feature=autoplay&list=UURXShdBd4jp-661bvbSn_3A&playnext=1
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i heard D-Wade might not be ready for the regular season opener
same with that softy Lewis
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Magic Johnson says the Heat are favorites
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/10/magic-johnson-considers-miami-heat-the-favorite-to-win-nba-championship/
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Magic Johnson says the Heat are favorites
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/10/magic-johnson-considers-miami-heat-the-favorite-to-win-nba-championship/
magic stay sayin dumbass shit
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Magic Johnson says the Heat are favorites
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/10/magic-johnson-considers-miami-heat-the-favorite-to-win-nba-championship/
magic stay sayin dumbass shit
No, Magic says shit to get his team fired up. The last thing Magic wants is for his team to come into training camp overconfident. Plus it's not that far off to put the Heat as favorites, they have LeBron in his prime, they are the defending NBA champions and they added Ray Allen. Until the Lakers prove they can play together, you have to make Miami the favorite to win.
With that said, Once the season starts and Lakers take to the court, it's a new conversation. It's up to the Lakers and Heat to drive how that conversation goes.
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Magic Johnson says the Heat are favorites
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/10/magic-johnson-considers-miami-heat-the-favorite-to-win-nba-championship/
magic stay sayin dumbass shit
No, Magic says shit to get his team fired up. The last thing Magic wants is for his team to come into training camp overconfident. Plus it's not that far off to put the Heat as favorites, they have LeBron in his prime, they are the defending NBA champions and they added Ray Allen. Until the Lakers prove they can play together, you have to make Miami the favorite to win.
With that said, Once the season starts and Lakers take to the court, it's a new conversation. It's up to the Lakers and Heat to drive how that conversation goes.
naah, i think Magic is lowkey jealous of Kobe/the Lakers. he always talks shit and makes bitter backhanded comments, as if to say Lakers arent THAT good and all that other shit.....it's either that, or the networks are payin him 2 say these things, cuz he's usually overly critcal of the Lakers and says shit to spite them on a consistent basis. James Worthy and Michael Cooper are loyal Lakers at heart who do it right. I think Magic is loyal to the P&G too, but something about Kobe being the greatest Laker of all time is still botherin him deep down inside.
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Part of me agrees with NIK. Magic always has something negative to say about the Lakers. I'd say close to 99% of superstars in the history of sports have an ego. It's just natural. I think for Magic to be as great as he was & then have to sit there & admit Kobe is probably always going to be viewed as the better Laker is too much for him.
But part of feels like Magic just acknowledging the absolute greatness of LeBron James. LeBron is the only player he ever really talks about in a higher regard than he does Kobe.
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Part of me agrees with NIK. Magic always has something negative to say about the Lakers. I'd say close to 99% of superstars in the history of sports have an ego. It's just natural. I think for Magic to be as great as he was & then have to sit there & admit Kobe is probably always going to be viewed as the better Laker is too much for him.
But part of feels like Magic just acknowledging the absolute greatness of LeBron James. LeBron is the only player he ever really talks about in a higher regard than he does Kobe.
lets not take it TOO far
MAGIC JOHNSON: KOBE'S BETTER THAN LEBRON
“Everybody’s always asking, ‘Who is better between Kobe (Bryant) and LeBron?’” Johnson said. “I’m like, Are you kidding me? I’m like you’re kidding me … Kobe, five championships; LeBron, zero. I love the young man though. I know he’s going to get better in the fourth quarter this year.”
HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: He speaks the truth.
Magic Johnson isn’t hating on LeBron James by saying that the Miami Heat three-man can’t compare with Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant.
Magic’s reasoning is fair: Bryant has five championships, while James has none.
After all, championships have long been the mark of greatness in the NBA. Superstars, the real elites, measure themselves by the number of times they hoist the Larry O’Brien trophy in June and not individual statistics.
Johnson was simply holding James accountable to this criteria. To be fair, James is currently superior to Bryant, but has yet to enjoy true post-season success.
Until James does, he’s not in the same company as Bryant.
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/168262-magic-johnson-kobes-better-than-lebron
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That article was written before last season. You'd have to be pretty dumb to say you'd rather have Kobe than LeBron for the past two seasons.
To be fair, James is currently superior to Bryant, but has yet to enjoy true post-season success.
Magic answered the question like it was like "Whose had the better career, Magic?". Obviously Kobe. Especially LeBron coming off that Dallas series. But the fact the question was even asked in a career-wise way when LeBron had zero rings, coming off blowing it in the Finals & Kobe just finished making it to the Finals another three years in a row just goes to show how absurdly talented LeBron is.
It's kinda like how you never hear "Whose a better rapper? Lil' B or Tupac?" It's always Biggie & Tupac. You have to be in one's company for the question to be posed.
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i duno what u gettin at, but kobe is obviously better career-wise LOL
the question was who was better at the time, and that was in 2011.
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the question was who was better at the time, and that was in 2011.
To be fair, James is currently superior to Bryant, but has yet to enjoy true post-season success.
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Magic Johnson says the Heat are favorites
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/10/magic-johnson-considers-miami-heat-the-favorite-to-win-nba-championship/
magic stay sayin on-the-point shit
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the question was who was better at the time, and that was in 2011.
To be fair, James is currently superior to Bryant, but has yet to enjoy true post-season success.
thats the words of hoopsvibe, not magic
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hoopsvibe is smart before that post season remark
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8461397/charles-barkley-thinks-lebron-james-better-michael-jordan
My nigga Chuck doesn't even make reference to that clown in LA. 8)
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8461397/charles-barkley-thinks-lebron-james-better-michael-jordan
My nigga Chuck doesn't even make reference to that clown in LA. 8)
8)
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8461397/charles-barkley-thinks-lebron-james-better-michael-jordan
My nigga Chuck doesn't even make reference to that clown in LA. 8)
well, obviously, Chuck is a KNOWN Laker hater...
lets here it from the mouth of some1 who doesnt pick AGAINST the Lakers at every chance he gets (from the same article u posted):
"Unfortunately for LeBron, now that the monkey is off his back, he is going to be compared to two people: Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan," O'Neal said. "So now the question is how many championships can he get? We all know he is a competitor."
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LeBron doesn't have time in his career to get 5 titles. That's his main problem. Actually he doesn't have time in D-Wade's career, as D-Wade is very important to LeBron winning 5-6 titles. D-Wade is starting his decline, and LeBron is at his absolute peak. I'm calling it now, in 4 years Kevin Durant will be the king of the NBA and LeBron will fall short of catching Kobe or Michael. That's being real, not hating. LeBron is great right now, may win 2-3 titles in the next 4 years, but he will not get #5.
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dont make excuses for him, he has more than enough time. at lebron's age, jordan still had 0 rings...ur right, though, he most likely wont get anywhere close to as many, if he even gets 1 more
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dont make excuses for him, he has more than enough time. at lebron's age, jordan still had 0 rings...ur right, though, he most likely wont get anywhere close to as many, if he even gets 1 more
No excuses; just when looking at the future, unless the Heat makes a major move, when D-Wade fades out LeBron will be in the same situation as when he was in Cleveland. It'll be Bosh/LBJ and a bunch of scrubs. It'll be like the Lakers 2004-2008, Kobe/Odom and scrubs.
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NIK is a truly dumb dude.
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lol u love LeBron to much for your own health, youngn
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Barkley has been a Kobe hater since Kobe called him and basically said fuck you to him .
It happened when Chuck said Kobe didn't shot on purpose in the 2nd half of Game 7 in 06 against the Suns ...
Lebron is the best player in the game right now but medias/fans always find excuses for him ... something they didn't do for all the others greats ...
It's up to the Heat to re-up when Wade is done
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I don't even worry about Chuck. Chuck says and does what's best for Chuck. I personally find him entertaining and I like him on my TV. But I take all criticism of Kobe with a grain of salt, as could Kobe in his prime beat Chuck in his prime, YES! So I take it as is.
As for the Heat, it is up to them to re-up when D-Wade is gone, but I don't think they have the tools and cap space to do it. Remember in 2 seasons cap space will be more sacred than star players, the luxury tax will be 3 dollars for every dollar over. This is NOT an excuse for LeBron. Straight up, if his the next GOAT then his team would win no matter what. My thing is I don't think his good enough to do it. I love his style of play. Right now his the best player on the planet. But unlike Kobe and Michael, LeBron has not developed his game so when his physical play starts to wear down. And by then, Durant will have emerged as the best player in the game. Realistically, LeBron's reign will be memorable, he'll be a Hall of Famer, but the days of ANYONE winning 5-6 NBA titles on the same team may be over.
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Barkley has been a Kobe hater since Kobe called him and basically said fuck you to him .
It happened when Chuck said Kobe didn't shot on purpose in the 2nd half of Game 7 in 06 against the Suns ...
Lebron is the best player in the game right now but medias/fans always find excuses for him ... something they didn't do for all the others greats ...
It's up to the Heat to re-up when Wade is done
so basically Kobe is thin-skinned and bitter
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Barkley has been a Kobe hater since Kobe called him and basically said fuck you to him .
It happened when Chuck said Kobe didn't shot on purpose in the 2nd half of Game 7 in 06 against the Suns ...
Lebron is the best player in the game right now but medias/fans always find excuses for him ... something they didn't do for all the others greats ...
It's up to the Heat to re-up when Wade is done
so basically Kobe is the GOAT
pretty much
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who are the top 5 players in Miami Heat history?
i say:
1-Lebron
2-D Wade
3-Glen Rice
4-Alonzo Mourning
5-Tim Hardaway (this is open for debate tho)
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I would put Shaq at #5. I think his short time in Miami was better than Tim Hardaway's whole Miami career.
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i could put Shaq #5
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CLIPPERS ;)
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so the new media "we have nothing good to discuss" story is if Lebron is leaving Miami in 2 years (beginning of 2014-2015) because he wants to avoid playing with an aging Wade and Bosh.
I'd see him going to Brooklyn for the NY affect and to play with Deron and JJ....but I bet Riles fighs like hell to keep him in Miami.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49496360/ns/sports-nba/
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so nobody thinks this is worth discussing either? good 8)
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2 DAYS AWAY FROM CELTICS @ HEAT
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at least Rondo had a good game lol
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Well Boston and LA start with the same record... :-(
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the Heat are supposed to be scared of THIS Lakers team? :D
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Well Boston and LA start with the same record... :-(
not anymore but they got the same winning percentage
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heat knicks on ESPNtonight at 8
celtics vs bucks on comcast
good night to order a pizza
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heat were lucky to win tonight
BOSH WITH 40?!@
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good game by the Clip-show last night
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Lebron hates white people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j18t71eLWpQ#!
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ray allen looks good as a heat :(
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HEAT LOST TO THE WIZARDS THE OTHER NIGHT LMAO
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heat got RAPED by the knicks lastnight
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the Heat got soft since Ray Allen went there
meanwhile Celtics could use Ray too
lose lose for Ray Ray unless the Heat win a title...he lost a lot of cred here in Boston this off season
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the Heat got soft since Ray Allen went there
meanwhile Celtics could use Ray too
lose lose for Ray Ray unless the Heat win a title...he lost a lot of cred here in Boston this off season
what part of boston u in ese?
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like i said, miami was a one-and-done team...lebron was able to keep himself focused for a full (shortened) season, but i'd be extremely surprised if he can pull it off again.
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like i said, miami was a one-and-done team...lebron was able to keep himself focused for a full (shortened) season, but i'd be extremely surprised if he can pull it off again.
1-for all the shit they get in the media they are still 15-6 and going to coast to a top 2 seed
2-lebron wins another MVP this year UNLESS carmelo keeps playing defense
3-brooklyn is a fraud (just throwing this out there) so the knicks and celtics (if healthy) are the only teams for him to fear in a playoff series and who the fuck knows if the knicks can sustain what they're doing
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lol@lebron for mvp...at this point, i'd give it to stephen curry before him.
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like i said, miami was a one-and-done team...lebron was able to keep himself focused for a full (shortened) season, but i'd be extremely surprised if he can pull it off again.
1-for all the shit they get in the media they are still 15-6 and going to coast to a top 2 seed
2-lebron wins another MVP this year UNLESS carmelo keeps playing defense
3-brooklyn is a fraud (just throwing this out there) so the knicks and celtics (if healthy) are the only teams for him to fear in a playoff series and who the fuck knows if the knicks can sustain what they're doing
Why is Brooklyn a fraud?
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like i said, miami was a one-and-done team...lebron was able to keep himself focused for a full (shortened) season, but i'd be extremely surprised if he can pull it off again.
1-for all the shit they get in the media they are still 15-6 and going to coast to a top 2 seed
2-lebron wins another MVP this year UNLESS carmelo keeps playing defense
3-brooklyn is a fraud (just throwing this out there) so the knicks and celtics (if healthy) are the only teams for him to fear in a playoff series and who the fuck knows if the knicks can sustain what they're doing
Why is Brooklyn a fraud?
Joe Johnson disappears during playoff series and Broke Lopez is broken too often (kinda like Andrew Bumknee)....they got no bench. don't get me wrong I love Deron Williams (best point guard in the league not named Rondo) but he can't do it alone
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i say Rondo for MVP ;D
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like i said, miami was a one-and-done team...lebron was able to keep himself focused for a full (shortened) season, but i'd be extremely surprised if he can pull it off again.
1-for all the shit they get in the media they are still 15-6 and going to coast to a top 2 seed
2-lebron wins another MVP this year UNLESS carmelo keeps playing defense
3-brooklyn is a fraud (just throwing this out there) so the knicks and celtics (if healthy) are the only teams for him to fear in a playoff series and who the fuck knows if the knicks can sustain what they're doing
Why is Brooklyn a fraud?
Joe Johnson disappears during playoff series and Broke Lopez is broken too often (kinda like Andrew Bumknee)....they got no bench. don't get me wrong I love Deron Williams (best point guard in the league not named Rondo) but he can't do it alone
williams has been pretty weak this year...not even playing like a top 5 pg. brook lopez will be fine, though. brooklyn has a squad.
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we'll see but i doubt it
the nets dont scare me one bit
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and just like that the Heat are back as the 1 seed
unlike the Brooklyn Mess
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heat vs grizz tonight
great matchup
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16 wins in a row
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19 straight wins...when will it stop? when they play the C's?
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20 games in a row
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http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9056725/boston-celtics-not-impressed-miami-heat-lengthy-streak
Celtics are not impressed by Heats win streak
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Only thing I can think of when I read that.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/33954106.jpg)
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another win for Miami
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will anyone stop Miami???
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i hope them Celtic boys do
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yes, in basketball it's very easy to lose to a bad team on an off night. right now the heat are completely on fire, but i don't think it'll last much longer. i'm going under on 5 more games.
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yes, in basketball it's very easy to lose to a bad team on an off night. right now the heat are completely on fire, but i don't think it'll last much longer. i'm going under on 5 more games.
the only team that can contest the Heat is OKC or a healthy Spurs team
other than that nobody is challenging them at this moment
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Remember, they are on a win streak, not undefeated. This year they have lose to the Grizzles, Wizards, Warriors, Pistons, Bucks, Trail Blazers and Jazz. Not exactly great teams. But right now they are on complete fire. Still, in the NBA a bad team can catch fire that night and beat a great team, happens every year and it has happened to the Heat already. The only team with the kind of focus to beat the teams they were suppose to beat was the 90's Bulls. In the 95-96 season, the Bulls only lose to the Raptors, but the other loses were to playoff teams.
So with that said, I don't see Boston beating the Heat, they'll still be too hot. But I think they get upset by either the Cavs or the Pistons. If they actually do make it to 25 in a row, then the Bulls WILL end the streak at 26.
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Cleveland, Boston, Chicago, San Antonio...they will lose at least 1 of these
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another Heat win
22 now
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2nd best streak ever now
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best player ever
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best player ever
Now you are just being a troll.
LeBron is a beast, no question about it. He's the perfect combination of speed, agility and raw power. He has the speed of Chris Paul, the power of Shaq and the moves like AI. He's a freak, no question about it. BUT he's not the GOAT. In a one on one game, Kobe or Jordan in their primes would kill LeBron. On the court, Kobe and MJ had a much better skill set than LeBron and they were never afraid to take the last shot. LeBron's limited by how much basketball he doesn't know. Right now he's in his prime, the peak of his physical abilities. For the next 3-4 years, the Heat will only lose if LeBron doesn't want to play. But best ever means he's that good into his 30's, and right now his skill set is not made for someone in their 30's. LeBron's skill set is made for a freakish 20's something in their prime dominating other teams and not having to worry about the last shot. This will be exposed in the playoffs like it has for every other year. The difference will be can LeBron step up like he did last year and not leave it to clutch time.
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best player ever
Now you are just being a troll.
LeBron is a beast, no question about it. He's the perfect combination of speed, agility and raw power. He has the speed of Chris Paul, the power of Shaq and the moves like AI. He's a freak, no question about it. BUT he's not the GOAT. In a one on one game, Kobe or Jordan in their primes would kill LeBron. On the court, Kobe and MJ had a much better skill set than LeBron and they were never afraid to take the last shot. LeBron's limited by how much basketball he doesn't know. Right now he's in his prime, the peak of his physical abilities. For the next 3-4 years, the Heat will only lose if LeBron doesn't want to play. But best ever means he's that good into his 30's, and right now his skill set is not made for someone in their 30's. LeBron's skill set is made for a freakish 20's something in their prime dominating other teams and not having to worry about the last shot. This will be exposed in the playoffs like it has for every other year. The difference will be can LeBron step up like he did last year and not leave it to clutch time.
when lebron gets back to back 40+ points-10+ assists game in his 17th season, we'll start comparing him to kobe.
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best player ever
Now you are just being a troll.
LeBron is a beast, no question about it. He's the perfect combination of speed, agility and raw power. He has the speed of Chris Paul, the power of Shaq and the moves like AI. He's a freak, no question about it. BUT he's not the GOAT. In a one on one game, Kobe or Jordan in their primes would kill LeBron. On the court, Kobe and MJ had a much better skill set than LeBron and they were never afraid to take the last shot. LeBron's limited by how much basketball he doesn't know. Right now he's in his prime, the peak of his physical abilities. For the next 3-4 years, the Heat will only lose if LeBron doesn't want to play. But best ever means he's that good into his 30's, and right now his skill set is not made for someone in their 30's. LeBron's skill set is made for a freakish 20's something in their prime dominating other teams and not having to worry about the last shot. This will be exposed in the playoffs like it has for every other year. The difference will be can LeBron step up like he did last year and not leave it to clutch time.
when lebron gets back to back 40+ points-10+ assists game in his 17th season, we'll start comparing him to kobe.
Overall career yes. When LeBron proves he can play into his 30's then we'll talk GOAT.
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bare witness
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bare witness
Once he gains a skill set to take him into his 30's, then I'll believe. Right now, he's Dr. J. He's better than everyone else physically, but how long will that carry him?
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lebron is much better than dr j at this point
dr j was the man in the ABA but in the NBA wasn't nearly as dominant
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best player ever
Now you are just being a troll.
LeBron is a beast, no question about it. He's the perfect combination of speed, agility and raw power. He has the speed of Chris Paul, the power of Shaq and the moves like AI. He's a freak, no question about it. BUT he's not the GOAT. In a one on one game, Kobe or Jordan in their primes would kill LeBron. On the court, Kobe and MJ had a much better skill set than LeBron and they were never afraid to take the last shot. LeBron's limited by how much basketball he doesn't know. Right now he's in his prime, the peak of his physical abilities. For the next 3-4 years, the Heat will only lose if LeBron doesn't want to play. But best ever means he's that good into his 30's, and right now his skill set is not made for someone in their 30's. LeBron's skill set is made for a freakish 20's something in their prime dominating other teams and not having to worry about the last shot. This will be exposed in the playoffs like it has for every other year. The difference will be can LeBron step up like he did last year and not leave it to clutch time.
when lebron gets back to back 40+ points-10+ assists game in his 17th season, we'll start comparing him to kobe.
lol Kobe has to score because his team sucks now
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lebron is much better than dr j at this point
dr j was the man in the ABA but in the NBA wasn't nearly as dominant
Dr. J in the NBA was in his late 20's and he was great, but once the 80's hit he was in his 30's and depending on others to carry the team. He was still NBA all team in the late 70's as part of the 76ers, but he didn't have a team around him. His career in the 76ers would have been LeBron right now if he stayed in Cleveland.
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lebron is much better than dr j at this point
dr j was the man in the ABA but in the NBA wasn't nearly as dominant
Dr. J in the NBA was in his late 20's and he was great, but once the 80's hit he was in his 30's and depending on others to carry the team. He was still NBA all team in the late 70's as part of the 76ers, but he didn't have a team around him. His career in the 76ers would have been LeBron right now if he stayed in Cleveland.
You really think Lebron is just gonna tail off at 30?? based on what?
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lebron is much better than dr j at this point
dr j was the man in the ABA but in the NBA wasn't nearly as dominant
Dr. J in the NBA was in his late 20's and he was great, but once the 80's hit he was in his 30's and depending on others to carry the team. He was still NBA all team in the late 70's as part of the 76ers, but he didn't have a team around him. His career in the 76ers would have been LeBron right now if he stayed in Cleveland.
You really think Lebron is just gonna tail off at 30?? based on what?
Maybe 31 or 32, but based off the mileage on his legs and the fact his game is based off being the most physically dominate player ever. Once the speed and agility leaves, he can either develop into a jump shooter like MJ or Kobe, or become the Round Mount of Rebound like Barkley. But he wouldn't be the King forever and he'll have to adjust.
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mp_career.html
he's not even in the top 125 in minutes played in NBA history
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The only current players above him are all over 30 and he's above such young players like Pau Gasol, Jermaine O'Neal, Shane Battier and Marcus Camby. I wonder if Kobe will ever catch Kareem, or is he looking to retire sooner? Most everybody above Kobe is either a jump shooter or big man. That's very telling how long slashers like Kobe and MJ last, and those two adjusted their game later on.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/9067233/tracy-mcgrady-says-houston-rockets-22-game-streak-lot-harder-achieve-miami-heats
tracy mcgrady catchin feelings
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WTF
WE HAD THIS SHIT
GOD DAMMIT Bron is just too good :(
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damn PP misses the 3
game over
lebron is just too god damn good :(
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If you had Kobe you'd still have faith.
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If you had Kobe you'd still have faith.
i bet Kobe drops 50 tonight
oh wait :-x
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If you had Rondo and Garnett you'd still have faith.
fixed
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Hey, at least I had Jeff Green on my fantasy team.
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i just drafted Cano
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i just drafted Cano
I'm talking the guy who just scored 40 plus tonight in basketball, not baseball.
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Hey, at least I had Jeff Green on my fantasy team.
I guess I'll always root for JG since he was on the Sonics their last year and left OKC. Good to see him playing well again after that tough situation last year.
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jeff green is the man
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10 games to go
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huge comeback win...watched it at a bar tonight. what a game.
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This I had as a potential lose, so I will say this is a great win for the Heat.
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Dan Gilbert must be crying somewhere
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saw the whole game, cleveland was up 27 and let it slip away...heat had a chance to lose on the final possession. huge chokejob by the cavs, tho.
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Cleveland is cursed, its too long to explain. All the coming close to winning big games & not winning is not a coincidence. Its sad cause they suffered enough. Even Boston broke their baseball, hockey & basketball curses. And the chowds there have done some evil things 2 deserve a long curse. And did anyone see the fan who ran onto the court :grumpy: When I heard that, I thought it might have been a pissed off fan cause Lebron is still hated in N.E. Ohio.
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yea, i seen that...i think the turning point of the game was the officials review on the foul that they were contemplating ruling a clear path. once they called it a regular foul out-of-bounds, u could feel the moment shifting. 2 free throws plus the ball woulda put it at 29, i believe, with cleveland having possession, shit woulda been devastating. but the call of a regular foul gave miami hope....
also, the fact that shaun livingston got a technical foul was vital. without that tech, cleveland woulda been tied at 96-96 with the final possession. i guess miami's doin it right. i originally said they'd lose to either cleveland, boston, chicago, or san antonio...boston and cleveland both had the games in their hand..now it's down to chicago or san antoinio, and i'll be shocked if they don't lose one of those 2.
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So with that said, I don't see Boston beating the Heat, they'll still be too hot. But I think they get upset by either the Cavs or the Pistons. If they actually do make it to 25 in a row, then the Bulls WILL end the streak at 26.
I think the Heat are starting to cool off, they are having a ton of close games lately and it's just a matte of time before the streak ends. I thought for sure the Cavs beat them because the Heat would come in unprepared and the Cavs would have that LeBron home crowd going for them. With that said, there is a ton of room for the Heat to have a huge let down against the Pistons tomorrow. If not it's up to the Bulls.
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i think they need to start resting Bron more
then again they can probably just rest him in the 1st playoff round :D
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So with that said, I don't see Boston beating the Heat, they'll still be too hot. But I think they get upset by either the Cavs or the Pistons. If they actually do make it to 25 in a row, then the Bulls WILL end the streak at 26.
I think the Heat are starting to cool off, they are having a ton of close games lately and it's just a matte of time before the streak ends. I thought for sure the Cavs beat them because the Heat would come in unprepared and the Cavs would have that LeBron home crowd going for them. With that said, there is a ton of room for the Heat to have a huge let down against the Pistons tomorrow. If not it's up to the Bulls.
a college team could beat the pistons, highly doubt they beat the heat
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So with that said, I don't see Boston beating the Heat, they'll still be too hot. But I think they get upset by either the Cavs or the Pistons. If they actually do make it to 25 in a row, then the Bulls WILL end the streak at 26.
I think the Heat are starting to cool off, they are having a ton of close games lately and it's just a matte of time before the streak ends. I thought for sure the Cavs beat them because the Heat would come in unprepared and the Cavs would have that LeBron home crowd going for them. With that said, there is a ton of room for the Heat to have a huge let down against the Pistons tomorrow. If not it's up to the Bulls.
a college team could beat the pistons, highly doubt they beat the heat
Which is what makes that game very dangerous for the Heat.
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another win, 29 points and 8 rebs + assists for the MVP
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lol, good thing they got the dangerous one out the way
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lol, good thing they got the dangerous one out the way
haha
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another win last night
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27
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going for 28 tonight
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heat vs bullshits tonight
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Well I thought the Cavs and the Pistons might have been a let down team to end the streak, but if the Heat were able to not play down to those teams, then the Bulls would end it. Looks like the Bulls did in fact beat the Heat.
Though I will say, that was a damn impressive run by the Heat!
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They're still going to win it all #thunderdown.
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naah, they peaked 2 soon
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But if I project a Thunder win I won't be able to function mentally.
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But if I project a Thunder win I won't be able to function mentally.
theres a handful of teams that can take out the heat in the playoffs/finals
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But if I project a Thunder win I won't be able to function mentally.
theres a handful of teams that can take out the spurs in the playoffs/finals
Who said anything about the Spurs? I'd pick a number of teams out West over them.
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duno why it came out as spurs, must be the og 8)
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has Kobe ever won 27 in a row? :D
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duno why it came out as spurs, must be the og 8)
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you should mail me a sample of that shit son
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has Kobe ever won 27 in a row? :D
has LeBron ever won 5 rings? :-X
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has Kobe ever won 27 in a row? :D
has LeBron ever won 5 rings? :-X
he's on his way :D
now mail me a sample of OG kush
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has Kobe ever won 27 in a row? :D
has LeBron ever won 5 rings? :-X
he's on his way :D
now mail me a sample of OG kush
paypal me 40 bux n i'll mail u a gift
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27 in a row don't mean anything without a title. Lakers in 2001 went 15-1 in the playoffs, including 11-0 streak, now that's a run. Now if the Heat win this year, then I'd give them their props. I always say they are the best team in the NBA, but they have to win it at the end. Once they win, then you can look at 27 in a row and say that's the best run in modern basketball. Still, that 95-96 Bulls team didn't lose to just anybody as well when they won 72.
What I am glad about is that LeBron might have a signature season. Kobe has 2002 and 2010 when he was at his best the Lakers won. Jordan has 1991 and 1996 to say that's my best. If the Heat win, LeBron will have 2013 to say, match that! LeBron is just out of this world right now. Last year you could argue that Durant is close, not this year. This year LeBron is head and shoulders the best ball player. But without that ring at the end, it means nothing. It's Jordan in 1989, or Kobe in 2006.
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the heat are winning the title this year
and to be honest i don't see it even being tough for them....maybe if Rondo, Granger and Rose were healthy the east would be a competition but without those 3 the only team that has a shot at taking them to 6 games is the Knicks
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Saying they will do it, and doing it are two different things. 2008 was suppose to be Kobe's year. Finally got the MVP, finally got Pau on his team, the Lakers had the best record in the NBA and then they got taken out by the Celtics. 1994 was suppose to be the Knicks year, Jordan was gone, they beat the Pacers and Reggie Miller, Ewing was on top, then they lost to the Rockets. I don't know how many times the Cavs were going to win the NBA Finals, then ended up losing in the playoffs. Holy crap, remember that great Lakers team in 2004, when they just ran through the strong West conference and lost to the Pistons? You never know who'll come out. Maybe the Thunder surprise everyone? We'll see. Right now LeBron is having his best season ever, most dominate player I've ever seen and that's including Kobe scoring 81 points. But until he gets number 2, it's all for nothing.
By the way, how did that inevitable Patriots win go in 2008?
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Saying they will do it, and doing it are two different things. 2008 was suppose to be Kobe's year. Finally got the MVP, finally got Pau on his team, the Lakers had the best record in the NBA and then they got taken out by the Celtics. 1994 was suppose to be the Knicks year, Jordan was gone, they beat the Pacers and Reggie Miller, Ewing was on top, then they lost to the Rockets. I don't know how many times the Cavs were going to win the NBA Finals, then ended up losing in the playoffs. Holy crap, remember that great Lakers team in 2004, when they just ran through the strong West conference and lost to the Pistons? You never know who'll come out. Maybe the Thunder surprise everyone? We'll see. Right now LeBron is having his best season ever, most dominate player I've ever seen and that's including Kobe scoring 81 points. But until he gets number 2, it's all for nothing.
By the way, how did that inevitable Patriots win go in 2008?
the Lakers didn't have the best record in the NBA, the Celtics were 66-16 and took a huge shit on them in the playoffs
that Boston team was described by Tracy McGrady as "the best defense i've ever faced" and they won like 9 more games in the regular season than the Lakers did.
no way Miami doesn't win the title this year
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Saying they will do it, and doing it are two different things. 2008 was suppose to be Kobe's year. Finally got the MVP, finally got Pau on his team, the Lakers had the best record in the NBA and then they got taken out by the Celtics. 1994 was suppose to be the Knicks year, Jordan was gone, they beat the Pacers and Reggie Miller, Ewing was on top, then they lost to the Rockets. I don't know how many times the Cavs were going to win the NBA Finals, then ended up losing in the playoffs. Holy crap, remember that great Lakers team in 2004, when they just ran through the strong West conference and lost to the Pistons? You never know who'll come out. Maybe the Thunder surprise everyone? We'll see. Right now LeBron is having his best season ever, most dominate player I've ever seen and that's including Kobe scoring 81 points. But until he gets number 2, it's all for nothing.
By the way, how did that inevitable Patriots win go in 2008?
the Lakers didn't have the best record in the NBA, the Celtics were 66-16 and took a huge shit on them in the playoffs
that Boston team was described by Tracy McGrady as "the best defense i've ever faced" and they won like 9 more games in the regular season than the Lakers did.
no way Miami doesn't win the title this year
That's why all through 2008 all you saw was Kobe/LeBron commercials. Dude wrote off the Celtics.
Dude, in recent history these teams had the best record and didn't win the NBA Finals.
2009 Cavs
2002 Kings (I always love that one)
2011 Chicago Bulls (didn't even make the finals)
2010 Cavs (am I seeing a LeBron trend?)
2007 Mavs (didn't even make it out the first round)
2006 Piston
2005 Suns (those last two teams had the best record? Neither made the finals.)
2004 Pacers (to be fair, the Lakers got all the hype though)
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ESPN probably played that "The Boston Three Party" commercial more than any other commercial
stop sleeping on that 08 celtics team son
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ESPN probably played that "The Boston Three Party" commercial more than any other commercial
stop sleeping on that 08 celtics team son
Can't sleep on a team with rings son. I tried that, and they smacked the shit outta the Lakers. Woke me up.
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i'll admit i slept on this years Ravens team
didn't think they had a CHANCE at winning the superbowl...esp over the 49ers.
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Saying they will do it, and doing it are two different things. 2008 was suppose to be Kobe's year. Finally got the MVP, finally got Pau on his team, the Lakers had the best record in the NBA and then they got taken out by the Celtics. 1994 was suppose to be the Knicks year, Jordan was gone, they beat the Pacers and Reggie Miller, Ewing was on top, then they lost to the Rockets. I don't know how many times the Cavs were going to win the NBA Finals, then ended up losing in the playoffs. Holy crap, remember that great Lakers team in 2004, when they just ran through the strong West conference and lost to the Pistons? You never know who'll come out. Maybe the Thunder surprise everyone? We'll see. Right now LeBron is having his best season ever, most dominate player I've ever seen and that's including Kobe scoring 81 points. But until he gets number 2, it's all for nothing.
By the way, how did that inevitable Patriots win go in 2008?
the Lakers didn't have the best record in the NBA, the Celtics were 66-16 and took a huge shit on them in the playoffs
that Boston team was described by Tracy McGrady as "the best defense i've ever faced" and they won like 9 more games in the regular season than the Lakers did.
no way Miami doesn't win the title this year
That's why all through 2008 all you saw was Kobe/LeBron commercials. Dude wrote off the Celtics.
Nah, that was 2009 when the Magic played the Lakers. I remember Dwight talking about finding it annoying. Don't question me, it was my first year without a team to support.
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lebron is 18 away form 21,000 points
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anyone notice how potent the 2003 draft class was?
bron, melo, bosh, wade, west, hinrich, williams, perkins, kamen
that's fucking deep. and the Piss-tons took DARKO over all of them besides Lebron :D :D :D
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anyone notice how potent the 2003 draft class was?
bron, melo, bosh, wade, west, hinrich, williams, perkins, kamen
that's fucking deep. and the Piss-tons took DARKO over all of them besides Lebron :D :D :D
Don't forget Luke Ridinour and Nick Collison.
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anyone notice how potent the 2003 draft class was?
bron, melo, bosh, wade, west, hinrich, williams, perkins, kamen
that's fucking deep. and the Piss-tons took DARKO over all of them besides Lebron :D :D :D
96 was better
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anyone notice how potent the 2003 draft class was?
bron, melo, bosh, wade, west, hinrich, williams, perkins, kamen
that's fucking deep. and the Piss-tons took DARKO over all of them besides Lebron :D :D :D
96 was better
kobe, ray ray, nash, iverson, peja, jermaine oneal, twon, camby, ilguskas
that shit goes deep too
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best ever though has to be 84
jordan, stockton, barkley, hakeem, perkins, thorp....damnnn
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kobe, AI, marcus camby, ray allen, steve nash, steph marbury, peja stojakavic, jermaine o'neal, ilgauskas, derek fisher, antoine walker, shareef abdur-rahim
it's pretty close
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Best classes are hard to rank, but a great class is way over due right now. We had 84, 96, 03, so when are we going to have that next one?
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Best classes are hard to rank, but a great class is way over due right now. We had 84, 96, 03, so when are we going to have that next one?
2008 was pretty damn good
derrick rose, oj mayo, kevin love, danillo gallinari, eric gordon, brook lopez, roy hibbert, javale mcgee, jj hickson, serge ibaka, nicolas batum, nikola pekovic, mario chalmers, deandre jordan, omer asik, goran dragic
deep fuckin draft
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Asik leads the league in rebounding 8)
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Best classes are hard to rank, but a great class is way over due right now. We had 84, 96, 03, so when are we going to have that next one?
2008 was pretty damn good
derrick rose, oj mayo, kevin love, danillo gallinari, eric gordon, brook lopez, roy hibbert, javale mcgee, jj hickson, serge ibaka, nicolas batum, nikola pekovic, mario chalmers, deandre jordan, omer asik, goran dragic
deep fuckin draft
A very solid draft. Best since 2003. Not sure how many HoFers though.
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heat knicks tonight - no Bron or Wade
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http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Chris-Bosh-Miami-Heat-Player-Miami-Beach-Home-Robbed--201449741.html
Looks like an inside job. But of course, its typical evil florida behavior. But the championship ring wasn't stolen.
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looks like Miami is letting bron and wade sit the rest of the year old to rest lmao
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60 wins now
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updates:
Heat are up to 63 wins
Lebron goes over 2,000 points
Wade returns and plays a majority of the game although only dropping 11 points
Ray Allen goes nuts against a few old team mates but not against Pierce or KG who were sat. I'm mad at Doc for that...horrible call.
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Heat win 64th game of the year today
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does anyone think the Knicks or Pacers have a shot against the Heat? i don't see either team even taking them to 6 games as long as Bron and Wade are healthy
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does anyone think the Knicks or Pacers have a shot against the Heat? i don't see either team even taking them to 6 games as long as Bron and Wade are healthy
yea, especially pacers..
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Heat beat the Cavs without the big 3 last night and cause Irving to skip out on fan appreciation night LMAO
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D-wade is having a sick game tonight....21 and 10
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heat finish 66-16
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heat finish 66-16
we live in a world of demons
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heat finish 66-16
we live in a world of demons
we did from 2001-2007 when the Patriots and Red Sox kept winning titles
but the 2007 NY Giants slayed those demons in the superbowl 8)
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heat finish 66-16
we live in a world of demons
we did from 2001-2007 when the Patriots and Red Sox kept winning titles
but the 2007 NY Giants slayed those demons in the superbowl 8)
talkin bout the triple 6 in the record
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oh okay
the KG championship Celtics went 66-16 too...so I predict the Heat win the title
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keep it in here 8)
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23-17 Miami
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Heat by 7 at half time
King James with 15 points
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and once again Lebron shows why he's the best player in the world
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LeBron James shot 81.8% from the field, his most efficient playoff game ever. It was also his 16th straight postseason game w/ 25+ Pts.
LeBron James was responsible for 28 points on his first 19 touches of the basketball tonight.
LeBron James was responsible for 44 pts on his first 26 touches of the basketball
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Heat win what was once a close game tonight over the Bucks...Bucks choke in the 4th while Ray Allen went on fire
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game 3 tonight
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another Heat win....time for a sweep
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with Westbrook out there's pretty much no way the Heat lose the finals
unless they play the Clippers or Grizzlies 8)
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i never meant to give you mushrooms girl
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d-wade not playing tonight
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heat sweep
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heat sweep
The heat can't sweep the bucks, Brandon Jennings said bucks in 6 even after trailing 0-2 :D
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lol @ dickrinding a team/player that has eliminated the Celtics from the playoffs last 2 years, faggot ass hack clearly brainwashed by ESPN
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lol @ dickrinding a team/player that has eliminated the Celtics from the playoffs last 2 years, faggot ass hack clearly brainwashed by ESPN
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oh and for the record I listen to fox sports radio...only time i watch ESPN is when games are on
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u clearly are not mad the heat/lebron have beat ur celtics the last 2 years in the playoffs, you're out here celebrating them n shit SMH
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so I can't respect greatness now? lol @ you Laker fans
what the Heat are doing now will never be paralleled again and I salute that. Meanwhile your Lakers are going to be even worse next year when Kobe misses several months of game time and Dwight is off playing on a real team. But at least you'll have Nash and Gasol cashing social security checks while the Celtics get Rondo back :D
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lol @ dickrinding a team/player that has eliminated the Celtics from the playoffs last 2 years, faggot ass hack clearly brainwashed by ESPN
that shit really is hilarious, but one should expect no less from a fairweather fan.
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so I can't respect greatness now? lol @ you Laker fans
what the Heat are doing now will never be paralleled again and I salute that. Meanwhile your Lakers are going to be even worse next year when Kobe misses several months of game time and Dwight is off playing on a real team. But at least you'll have Nash and Gasol cashing social security checks while the Celtics get Rondo back :D
You know I've been talking about LeBron being the best today. There are threads and threads of me and Sccittles going at it over this. At the same time, I ask how long have you been waiting to mock the Lakers. Man, it's been a long wait to call the decline of the Lakers. Enjoy it, because traditionally the Lakers don't go that long without reloading.
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so do the Heat have any chance of losing a game to the Nets/Bulls winner? :-/
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MIAMI WILL LOSE 2 GAMES TO THE NETS
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MIAMI WILL LOSE 2 GAMES TO THE NETS
LMAO you gotta be kidding me. the NETS? they have no shot. Bulls might take a game though.
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NETS>BULLS
AND I GUARANTEE AT LEAST 1 VICTORY FROM BROOKLYN
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the Bulls would at least have the defense
the Nets? Joe Johnson is crippled right now, Deron is so inconsistent and they have no answer for both Lebron and Ray Allen off the bench.
Nets COULD win one game at home if D-wade sits out with an injury.
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Heat win in 5 if Deng an Hinrich come back
if not then sweep
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DERRICK ROSE NEEDS 2 STOP BEIN A PUSSY. IF HE MANS UP, BULLS IN 7 :laugh:
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DERRICK ROSE NEEDS 2 STOP BEIN A PUSSY. IF HE MANS UP, BULLS IN 7 :laugh:
LOL I could see it going 6 if Rose is healthy enough to play 30+ minutes. too bad he didn't want to be a man and test his limits (i.e. coming in for 3 minutes one day, 5 minutes the next game etc.) before declaring he couldn't go. Michael Jordan must be ashamed.
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120 of 121 first place votes
one guy voted for Marshmelo Anthony
James was first, Durant second, Anthony 3rd and CP3 finished 4th
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Lebron and Kareem are the only ones to win back to back MVP's twice. if Bron wins MVP next year he and Larry Bird would be the only ones to win 3 MVP's in a row.
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120 of 121 first place votes
one guy voted for Marshmelo Anthony
James was first, Durant second, Anthony 3rd and CP3 finished 4th
if kobe was on the heat instead of the lakers, he woulda won via unanimous decision 8)
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120 of 121 first place votes
one guy voted for Marshmelo Anthony
James was first, Durant second, Anthony 3rd and CP3 finished 4th
if kobe was on the heat instead of the lakers, he woulda won via unanimous decision 8)
he might get some torn Achilles sympathy votes
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if lebron was on the lakers, he would take those bums to the finals kind of like he did daniel gibson and anderson varajeo lol mo williams
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D rose should sit out the year despite what these dellusional chicago bull fans got to say. He don't wanna come back to early and ruin his career like gilbert arenas or T-mac did
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D rose should sit out the year despite what these dellusional chicago bull fans got to say. He don't wanna come back to early and ruin his career like gilbert arenas or T-mac did
I don't know what the standard recovery time for an injury like that is, but wasn't dude cleared to play a while ago?
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now. it's more so that he plays on such a great team that he's able to play so great, since he doesnt have to expand as much energy on the games in order for his team to win. he doesnt need to be a volume shooter for miami to contend, and he has amazing perimeter players to pass to when he drives it in. the team is built around him to perfection...the guy who voted carmelo made a great point. melo actually is more valuable to his team than lebron is to the heat. remember how miami was doing when lebron was out? LOL. that said, he's a great player, but lets not go overboard.
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D rose should sit out the year despite what these dellusional chicago bull fans got to say. He don't wanna come back to early and ruin his career like gilbert arenas or T-mac did
I don't know what the standard recovery time for an injury like that is, but wasn't dude cleared to play a while ago?
yea, he was cleared to play back in march smfh...he's seen dunkin in pre-game warm-ups and is said to be beasting in practices. pretty much just bein a scary busta right about now.
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if lebron was on the lakers, he would take those bums to the finals kind of like he did daniel gibson and anderson varajeo lol mo williams
i highly doubt it...if what kobe playing out of his mind got us to a 7th seed, lebron woulda done no better. it aint about the roster, watch how the lakers play without kobe and how the heat play without lebron. it's not even close. miami is built to perfection...lakers are not.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now. it's more so that he plays on such a great team that he's able to play so great, since he doesnt have to expand as much energy on the games in order for his team to win. he doesnt need to be a volume shooter for miami to contend, and he has amazing perimeter players to pass to when he drives it in. the team is built around him to perfection...the guy who voted carmelo made a great point. melo actually is more valuable to his team than lebron is to the heat. remember how miami was doing when lebron was out? LOL. that said, he's a great player, but lets not go overboard.
Overboard. Dude just had a historic season. That's not overboard. That's fact.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now. it's more so that he plays on such a great team that he's able to play so great, since he doesnt have to expand as much energy on the games in order for his team to win. he doesnt need to be a volume shooter for miami to contend, and he has amazing perimeter players to pass to when he drives it in. the team is built around him to perfection...the guy who voted carmelo made a great point. melo actually is more valuable to his team than lebron is to the heat. remember how miami was doing when lebron was out? LOL. that said, he's a great player, but lets not go overboard.
Overboard. Dude just had a historic season. That's not overboard. That's fact.
he shot 56.5 %
Kobe's career high is like 47%
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Heat by 4 in the 4th
Bron has 9 points this quarter but no assists (had 6 in the first 3 Q)
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told ya'll the Bulls would win a game
now watch the heat take the next 4 games lol
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now. it's more so that he plays on such a great team that he's able to play so great, since he doesnt have to expand as much energy on the games in order for his team to win. he doesnt need to be a volume shooter for miami to contend, and he has amazing perimeter players to pass to when he drives it in. the team is built around him to perfection...the guy who voted carmelo made a great point. melo actually is more valuable to his team than lebron is to the heat. remember how miami was doing when lebron was out? LOL. that said, he's a great player, but lets not go overboard.
Lol.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now.
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facepalm if your really think lebron is lightyears ahead of the likes of durant, melo, kobe, etc....his team is built much better, and thats a given. he had a better season, but it's been circumstantial. just look at how he choked vs the bulls last night. he is STILL not what the media wants u to believe he is.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now. it's more so that he plays on such a great team that he's able to play so great, since he doesnt have to expand as much energy on the games in order for his team to win. he doesnt need to be a volume shooter for miami to contend, and he has amazing perimeter players to pass to when he drives it in. the team is built around him to perfection...the guy who voted carmelo made a great point. melo actually is more valuable to his team than lebron is to the heat. remember how miami was doing when lebron was out? LOL. that said, he's a great player, but lets not go overboard.
Overboard. Dude just had a historic season. That's not overboard. That's fact.
he shot 56.5 %
Kobe's career high is like 47%
and deandre jordan's fg% shits on lebron...thats what happens when a majority of ur shots are right at the rim.
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Let's just face it, from what I've seen and it looks like what everyone with credibility sees, no one is touching LeBron right now. He's too damn good.
it's not really that he's too damn good...there are definitely superstars on his level right now.
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facepalm if your really think lebron is lightyears ahead of the likes of durant, melo, kobe, etc....his team is built much better, and thats a given. he had a better season, but it's been circumstantial. just look at how he choked vs the bulls last night. he is STILL not what the media wants u to believe he is.
Ain't no one touching LeBron right now. LeBron is too good. He is not light years away, but he is just that much better than anyone else the last two years. Face it NIK, best player of the last two years. It's more than his team, he is just that damn good.
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lol, lebron showed us just how good he was last night....he's is no superhuman, he is just like the rest of the superstars. yea, he did have a better year, but he is not what he is painted to be. kobe was much more impressive than lebron during the final stretch of the season.
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lol @ NIK summing up someone's entire existence by one game
lebron is miles ahead of Durant, Kobe and Melo and it's not even CLOSE! When has Kobe ever shot over 48% let alone 56%?
Melo can't hold Lebron's jock offensively or defensively
Durant can score better but doesn't create plays like Bron does.
triple face palm son. There's a reason Lebron has 4 MVP's and Durant and Melo have 0 combined.
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NBA Leaders for MVP Award Shares
1. Michael Jordan* 8.138
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 6.203
3. Larry Bird* 5.693
4. LeBron James 5.387
5. Magic Johnson* 5.129
6. Bill Russell* 4.827
7. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
8. Karl Malone* 4.296
9. Wilt Chamberlain* 4.269
10. Tim Duncan 4.261
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lol @ NIK summing up someone's entire existence by one game
lebron is miles ahead of Durant, Kobe and Melo and it's not even CLOSE! When has Kobe ever shot over 48% let alone 56%?
Melo can't hold Lebron's jock offensively or defensively
Durant can score better but doesn't create plays like Bron does.
triple face palm son. There's a reason Lebron has 4 MVP's and Durant and Melo have 0 combined.
lol ur argument every time "look at the fg%"...i already disclosed that. when u shoot a bulk of ur shots right at the rim, or off fast break points, ur bound to have a higher fg%, obviously. kurt rambis once shot 60% from the field, gtfoh if thats all u can say...like i said, lebron did have a better season, but the fact that his team is built to perfection around him really boosts his stature with the general public to unreasonable lengths. he is not superhuman or head-and-shoulders above the rest...he just had a better season, considering his circumstances. if durant played on the heat and lebron played on okc, pretty sure durant woulda ran away with the mvp as well...and also, like i said, kobe impressed more than lebron in the finals stretch of the season. he's not "miles ahead" LOL, nate robinson outplayed him in game 1 smh
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how come Lebron's 3 point percentage is up so much too? ::)
Just be glad you are getting to witness the best player of this generation during his prime, don't be jealous Elior.
here's a joke:
Why did Kobe buy a dictionary?
To figure out what part of "no" he doesn't understand
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how come Lebron's 3 point percentage is up so much too? ::)
Just be glad you are getting to witness the best player of this generation during his prime, don't be jealous Elior.
here's a joke:
Why did Kobe buy a dictionary?
To figure out what part of "no" he doesn't understand
i already disclosed that as well...of course, when u shoot 3 attempts a game, and they're mainly wide open set shots, then ur gunna shoot a high percentage. compare that to players who NEED to be high volume shooters in order for their team to win. kobe, melo, durant all shoot much more threes than lebron on a much higher difficulty level. but again, not taking anything away from lebron, what he's doin is called beasting. but it's not unheard of and it's very circumstantial.
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
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hey Nikky did you see the game tonight?? Durant turns the ball over in the last minute down by 4! WHAT A BUM OMG!@!@!@
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hey Nikky did you see the game tonight?? Durant turns the ball over in the last minute down by 4! WHAT A BUM OMG!@!@!@
durant's playin without the 2nd best player on his team...he's basically expected to create everything for okc...not the same pressure on lebron as there is currently on durant, which is what brings me right back to circumstances dictating the opinion of the general population. i have a broader knowledge of the game than most to fall into those traps.
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
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Maybe I'll dust off my Bulls jersey and watch the game at the bars tonight. It's a Jordan jersey, but whatever.
Any thoughts on who will win tonight?
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
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Lebron has had 5 seasons of at least 25, 7 & 7
and I see no reason why he doesn't have another 3 or 4 more before his career ends.
also Lebron is the youngest to every point milestone from 1,000 to 21,000 even though Kobe also came into the NBA out of high school ;)
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this is the Heat i remember
James with 19 points on 7-9 shooting :D
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Will Nik ever give credit where credit is due? Lol.
LBJ will have his second ring this year...... and will have more.
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now THIS is what makes Miami the scariest team since the MJ bulls...Lebron has only taken 12 shots to get his 19 points because he's been so busy passing (9 assists so far)
that jerk Ray Allen is leading Miami in points with 21 so far
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Ray Allen has 328 three pointers in the playoffs in his career
i wonder if that will ever be broken
here is 1-20 for most 3 pointers in the playoffs:
* = Hall of Famer
1. Ray Allen 328
2. Reggie Miller* 320
3. Kobe Bryant 292
4. Derek Fisher 268
5. Chauncey Billups 267
6. Robert Horry 261
7. Jason Kidd 236
8. Manu Ginobili 231
9. Paul Pierce 219
10. Scottie Pippen* 200
Michael Finley 200
12. Rasheed Wallace 190
13. Jason Terry 182
14. Dan Majerle 181
15. Steve Nash 178
16. John Starks 176
17. Danny Ainge 172
18. Bruce Bowen 168
19. LeBron James 164
20. Peja Stojakovic 162
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Ray Allen has 328 three pointers in the playoffs in his career
i wonder if that will ever be broken
here is 1-20 for most 3 pointers in the playoffs:
* = Hall of Famer
1. Ray Allen 328
2. Reggie Miller* 320
3. Kobe Bryant 292
4. Derek Fisher 268
5. Chauncey Billups 267
6. Robert Horry 261
7. Jason Kidd 236
8. Manu Ginobili 231
9. Paul Pierce 219
10. Scottie Pippen* 200
Michael Finley 200
12. Rasheed Wallace 190
13. Jason Terry 182
14. Dan Majerle 181
15. Steve Nash 178
16. John Starks 176
17. Danny Ainge 172
18. Bruce Bowen 168
19. LeBron James 164
20. Peja Stojakovic 162
God damn, Kobe has been more of a shooter than Jordan, but I never noticed he was that close to Reggie Miller in 3 pointers in the playoffs. You know, if Kobe wanted, he can play another 5 years as just a 3 point shooter.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
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That was amazing tonight. 8)
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
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LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
kobe has better range than jordan and it's not even close, duno why u'd feel the need 2 argue that..
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
kobe has better range than jordan and it's not even close, duno why u'd feel the need 2 argue that..
That's true, Kobe loves those 40 foot jumpers, and he hits them all the time.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
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This guy CLEARLY didn't watch the playoffs last year.
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This guy CLEARLY didn't watch the playoffs last year.
i watch pretty much every game. lebron is the most complimentary superstar of all time LOL
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
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M-Dogg give up. He's been bitter ever since LeBron was deemed better than Kobe. Now he realizes LeBron in all likely hood will go down better than Kobe all-time.
Nigga just called a 57% shooting, triple double getting, elite defender a "complimentary" superstar.
Nigga just claimed to watching every minute, saw LeBron go 7-8, 19 points in the first half, but he isn't "all that".
You gotta just laugh at a certain point.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
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M-Dogg give up. He's been bitter ever since LeBron was deemed better than Kobe. Now he realizes LeBron in all likely hood will go down better than Kobe all-time.
Nigga just called a 57% shooting, triple double getting, elite defender a "complimentary" superstar.
Nigga just claimed to watching every minute, saw LeBron go 7-8, 19 points in the first half, but he isn't "all that".
You gotta just laugh at a certain point.
more proving my point....
why does lebron go 7-8? cuz those 8 attempts he takes are sure baskets....thats all the Heat need from him. they dont need 40 point nights from lebron to win. Lakers, Knicks, Thunder do.....if u cant understand this, then no need to comment. and ur known as the biggest lebron jockrider on this board, so why should anyone even take u seriously?
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LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
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LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
again, not getting the point :stupid:
lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.
NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
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he must have some sort of vision problem after last year's NBA finals
lol @ the thought of Carmelo being on Lebron's level at any point in his career :laugh:
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.
NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....
if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....
why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.
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Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.
Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.
Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.
You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.
You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.
You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.
But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.
NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....
if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....
why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.
As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.
Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.
Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.
Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.
You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.
You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.
You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.
But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.
NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....
if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....
why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.
As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.
Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.
Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.
Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.
You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.
You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.
You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.
But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!
proving my point once again...when lebron was with the cavs, he wasnt regarded as head-and-shoulders the best. why do u think that is? do u think he just got way better when playing alongside two franchise player? or could it, maybeee, just be that theres less pressure on him to lead the team when he has 2 other stars to share that pressure with + a bunch of knock-down-shooters around him to relieve whatever else pressure is left? once again, try making sense of it...i know u understand what im sayin, ur simply the type of cat that lets his ego interfere with agreement.
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Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.
Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.
Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.
You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.
You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.
You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.
But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
yea, and a lot of those assists come why? because he has knock down shooters to pass to LOL. kobe averaging 6 assists on this laker team with absolutely zero reliable shooters is much more impressive than lebron averaging 7 on the stacked heat.....
and like i said, it's not just the fact that he has other franchise players backing him....i already mentioned he even has the perfect complimentary role players in ray allen, shane battier, mike miller, mario chalmers etc... theyre all knock-down shooters. no other superstar in the league has it like that, and u know it.
and u love lebron's dick so much that it got u putting kobe bryant and tracy mcgrady in the same sentence. u dont even warrant a replay, really.
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lebron won 2 MVP's with the Cavs
lol @ him not being viewed as a best there. quit reaching. Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for a good 5-6 years now and will be for another 3-4 years
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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3
This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.
NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....
if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....
why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.
As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.
Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.
Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.
Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.
You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.
You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.
You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.
But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!
proving my point once again...when lebron was with the cavs, he wasnt regarded as head-and-shoulders the best. why do u think that is? do u think he just got way better when playing alongside two franchise player? or could it, maybeee, just be that theres less pressure on him to lead the team when he has 2 other stars to share that pressure with + a bunch of knock-down-shooters around him to relieve whatever else pressure is left? once again, try making sense of it...i know u understand what im sayin, ur simply the type of cat that lets his ego interfere with agreement.
He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
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by the way your "franchise player" chris bosh is averaging 12 points a game and 7 rebounds this post season...and D-wade is only dropping 14. You really think this isn't Lebron's team without any doubt? He's far better than those two. and Bosh still ain't a franchise player.
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lebron won 2 MVP's with the Cavs
lol @ him not being viewed as a best there. quit reaching. Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for a good 5-6 years now and will be for another 3-4 years
yea, and in between those, kobe also won 1, as well, which further proves my point- there was always a debate as to who the best was...he wasn't viewed as head-and-shoulders above the rest til he went to miami......LOL
yall are funny
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He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.
cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.
as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
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He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.
cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.
as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
Let's put it this way, if Kobe was as great as you are trying to make him out to be, the Lakers would be a 3rd or 4th seed. But instead they are a 7th or 8th seed, just barely getting to the playoffs. Face it Scittles, LeBron is the King right now. For the past 2 years, no one is touching him, and it'll be that way for another 3-4 years. The Heat might not win that many titles in a row, but clearly LeBron is the best player until Durant steps up.
Also, what the Heat did was smart, they built a team to best fit LeBron. The Lakers did that with Kobe in 2008 as they got a good passing center in Gasol to work inside/out to get Kobe someone to play with. On top of that they had tough as nails Derek Fisher as the PG and Odom as the garbage man PF and well I'm not sure what Radmanović was for but he did get some rebounds. When the Lakers really shined though was moving Gasol to PF, having Bynum in there to bang with centers like Perkins and Howard, getting either Artest or Ariza to be a shut down defender for players like LeBron or Pierce and building a team in which Kobe can score 30ppg and the Lakers can win. The key was rebounding as Kobe will sometimes take a crazy shot, but you have 2 7 footers and a defensive minded SF to grab the loose balls. Those teams were built for Kobe to win and when Kobe was out in 2010 the Lakers had a winning record. Remember this article...
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/are-the-lakers-gasp-better-without-kobe/
Point is, those teams were built for Kobe to shine and the Lakers to win. It's that simple. The Heat built a team to maximize LeBron's skills and LeBron won. Basically the point is, that's what a player needs to win. But of course it's still up to the player to win. After all just because you build the perfect team doesn't mean you'll win. See 2004 Lakers, 2004 Timberwolves, 2013 Lakers. At the end of the day, it's up to the players to win, and LeBron is winning right now, he is the most dominate player on the planet right now, and there is nothing that can change that.
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LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
again, not getting the point :stupid:
lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
Youre just a hater. Read your post again and realize the Lakers played some of their best basketball this season when Kobe scored under 20 points. Not sure what youre trying to say here. This was around the same time you claimed on Dubcc that Kobe was playing like Magic Johnson. Just rambling on trying to find excuses to claim King aint the best. SMH.
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LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
again, not getting the point :stupid:
lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
Youre just a hater. Read your post again and realize the Lakers played some of their best basketball this season when Kobe scored under 20 points. Not sure what youre trying to say here. This was around the same time you claimed on Dubcc that Kobe was playing like Magic Johnson. Just rambling on trying to find excuses to claim King aint the best. SMH.
lol, are u retarded? lakers played their best ball after the all-star break, where we went 28-11 with kobe beasting out his mind, playing HEAVY minutes, and literally being worked till he broke down.
slap yaself, welchboy
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He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.
cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.
as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
Let's put it this way, if Kobe was as great as you are trying to make him out to be, the Lakers would be a 3rd or 4th seed. But instead they are a 7th or 8th seed, just barely getting to the playoffs. Face it Scittles, LeBron is the King right now. For the past 2 years, no one is touching him, and it'll be that way for another 3-4 years. The Heat might not win that many titles in a row, but clearly LeBron is the best player until Durant steps up.
Also, what the Heat did was smart, they built a team to best fit LeBron. The Lakers did that with Kobe in 2008 as they got a good passing center in Gasol to work inside/out to get Kobe someone to play with. On top of that they had tough as nails Derek Fisher as the PG and Odom as the garbage man PF and well I'm not sure what Radmanović was for but he did get some rebounds. When the Lakers really shined though was moving Gasol to PF, having Bynum in there to bang with centers like Perkins and Howard, getting either Artest or Ariza to be a shut down defender for players like LeBron or Pierce and building a team in which Kobe can score 30ppg and the Lakers can win. The key was rebounding as Kobe will sometimes take a crazy shot, but you have 2 7 footers and a defensive minded SF to grab the loose balls. Those teams were built for Kobe to win and when Kobe was out in 2010 the Lakers had a winning record. Remember this article...
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/are-the-lakers-gasp-better-without-kobe/
Point is, those teams were built for Kobe to shine and the Lakers to win. It's that simple. The Heat built a team to maximize LeBron's skills and LeBron won. Basically the point is, that's what a player needs to win. But of course it's still up to the player to win. After all just because you build the perfect team doesn't mean you'll win. See 2004 Lakers, 2004 Timberwolves, 2013 Lakers. At the end of the day, it's up to the players to win, and LeBron is winning right now, he is the most dominate player on the planet right now, and there is nothing that can change that.
we're 28-11 after kobe guaranteed playoffs and started beasting out his mind...what the hell are u yappin about? again, soundin like an anti-laker lebron groupie...get a hold of yaself, doggy. theres no way we coulda been a 3rd seed with the way dwight and pau started the season and with all the injuries sustained...how many games did the full roster even play again? LOL, thats right...u playin for the wrong team fool, man up. lebron in kobes shoes woulda requested a trade by all-star break. are you really a laker fan? radmanovic didnt even play for any of the championship teams mayn, wtf are u sayin? even hack had to correct u on kobe missin the playoffs with smush and kwame...that never happened either! lol, ur all over the place, my boy. and this heat team is built MUCH stronger than the laker team that won with gasol as the 2nd fiddle LOL, why even compare it? even if u dont consider bosh a franchise player, wade most definitely is. thats 2 franchise players vs 1...lebron might as well play for an all-star team. step it up, mdoggydogg.
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Lakers were an 8 seed with Kobe, case closed.
now go tell us how great Chris Bosh is again
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Lakers were an 8 seed with Kobe, case closed.
now go tell us how great Chris Bosh is again
what kobe did to single-handedly get the battered, heartless lakers to the playoffs this season was historic....for u to downplay that really doesnt do much for ur credibility, cuzz
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and since when did claiming Melo is close to Lebron start helping your credibility?
face it, Kobe was surrounded by all stars this year and his team sucked ass. I still have this years Sports Illustrated NBA edition and on the cover it has Howard and Nash with the caption "this should be easy"
OOPS! :D
meanwhile Bosh and Wade combined are only averaging 2 more points than Lebron himself this playoffs.
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too bad there's no NBA tonight
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and since when did claiming Melo is close to Lebron start helping your credibility?
face it, Kobe was surrounded by all stars this year and his team sucked ass. I still have this years Sports Illustrated NBA edition and on the cover it has Howard and Nash with the caption "this should be easy"
OOPS! :D
meanwhile Bosh and Wade combined are only averaging 2 more points than Lebron himself this playoffs.
hes closer than u think..
kobe's team had no shot at playoffs without him this year...the heat woulda been a top 3 seed without lebron LOL.
and u keep conveniently forgetting to mention that the lakers had more injury woes than any other team this season as if it helps u to feel better about ur exaggerations :laugh:
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NIKCC, you're alone on this one. It's kinda sad reading all this stuff because you make it so obvious. Just admit Lebron is the best NBA player for a while now and will probably be in the future too, until somebody else's time comes. Just think, if the roles were reversed and Kobe was on the heat and Lebron on the Lakers team, would you be singing the same tune? You know the answer to that.
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and since when did claiming Melo is close to Lebron start helping your credibility?
face it, Kobe was surrounded by all stars this year and his team sucked ass. I still have this years Sports Illustrated NBA edition and on the cover it has Howard and Nash with the caption "this should be easy"
OOPS! :D
meanwhile Bosh and Wade combined are only averaging 2 more points than Lebron himself this playoffs.
hes closer than u think..
kobe's team had no shot at playoffs without him this year...the heat woulda been a top 3 seed without lebron LOL.
and u keep conveniently forgetting to mention that the lakers had more injury woes than any other team this season as if it helps u to feel better about ur exaggerations :laugh:
the Lakers had some harsh injuries but only the Pacers, 76ers and Bulls can REALLY cry about injuries because all 3 lost huge parts of their team for the entire season.
put Melo on the Heat and Lebron on the Knicks and watch the Knicks finish a lot closer than 12 games to the Heat. in fact I'd say the Knicks might even be the 1 seed because Marshmelo Anthony always misses 15 games a season while Mr. MVP Lebron only misses games when his team has the top seed sealed up already.
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Now I Know, you sound so sad. It's all in front of you. Kobe's reign is over. It was a great run. This doesn't mean the Lakers can't win next season, it just means for the last two years Lebron had been the best ball player in the world. Best player and best team are two separate things. As long as the Lakers have the best team, I can give a flying f.... who is the best player.
With that said, Lebron has been the best player the last two years because he figured out how to win and he is paying at a level higher than anyone else.
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what kobe did to single-handedly get the battered, heartless lakers to the playoffs this season was historic....
getting a team with 3 future hall of famers and a perennial all star in Pau Gasol into the 7th see of playoffs was "historic"? historic is winning 27 games in a row.
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LOLOL if only I had the time and energy to find your quotes about this years roster before the season. "Historical" lmao. Yeah, "historically" failed with by far the best roster on paper.
And you're hating on LeBron's assists because he hand picked his own roster of knock down shooters? I thought the goal was to win? Why wouldn't he suit himself with rosters that fit his style of play? Veteran minimum players, no less. Nobody on that roster besides Allen would start, be a sixth man or even a really key role player on almost every playoff teams roster. Shane isn't even really a defensive presence anymore, he's just a knock down corner shooter.
Give me Jodi, Blake and Ron for Ray, Norris and Shane and the Heat would still be in the same situation and the Lakers would still suck.
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i guess u all missed when i said lebron had the best season in the nba this year and ran away with the mvp....is it easier for the lebron jockriders to reply when yall act like i'm debating something that i'm not? all i'm saying is that lebron is not lightyears ahead of the other superstars, he just has a team built around him that is lightyears better than the other superstar's teams, which will naturally boost his status and make him look better. u are straight up retarded if u argue this.
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But you can say the same for Jordan and Kobe when they were on top. Their teams was what made the so great and vice versa.
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But you can say the same for Jordan and Kobe when they were on top. Their teams was what made the so great and vice versa.
lol please....kobe on the laker team that won back-to-back with pau gasol as second fiddle had a team built around him very comparable to the rest of the superstars in the league at that time. that wasnt a superteam and u know it. mj also had a great team built around him, but there was no three franchise players ala lebron-wade-bosh surrounded by a buncha' knock down shooters. the heat without lebron right now are a top seeded eastern conference team, on some real shit. lakers without kobe in 2010 wouldnt even make the playoffs.
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Oh yeah, the back to back team who played the OKC-less, Dirk choking, Spur injury ridden, Sun playing no defense, Melo having Billups as his second go to scorer West. How could I forget such a challenge? Who cruised to the Finals three years straight. Only after stealing Pau Gasol and drafting Andrew Bynum.
Yeah, y'all didn't hands down have the best roster in the league with the Celtics. Above and beyond everyone as far as having a complete team.
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Oh yeah, the back to back team who played the OKC-less, Dirk choking, Spur injury ridden, Sun playing no defense, Melo having Billups as his second go to scorer West. How could I forget such a challenge? Who cruised to the Finals three years straight. Only after stealing Pau Gasol and drafting Andrew Bynum.
Yeah, y'all didn't hands down have the best roster in the league with the Celtics. Above and beyond everyone as far as having a complete team.
wtf are u talkin about? do u insist on soundin like u have no idea wtf u talkin bout?...spurs had tony parker-tim duncan-manu ginobli...the three stars they've consistently won with. nuggets had carmelo anthony, chauncey billups, nene, kenyon martin, ty lawson, jr smith. suns had nash-amare-jrich, back when they were all stars. mavs=dirk, kidd, butler, marion, jason terry, josh howard....then u had the lakers playing with gasol as a second fiddle, and odom as the third option. same odom who cant even sniff 20 minutes on the clippers just a couple years later. bynum was injured...lmao@acting like we were stacked compared to other teams in defense of lebron. come on, now, u can do better.
it's well documented that lebron, who's played in the leastern conference for his entire career, has had the easiest rode to the finals of all time, hands down. if u have nothin good to say, dont say nothin.
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Oh yeah, the back to back team who played the OKC-less, Dirk choking, Spur injury ridden, Sun playing no defense, Melo having Billups as his second go to scorer West. How could I forget such a challenge? Who cruised to the Finals three years straight. Only after stealing Pau Gasol and drafting Andrew Bynum.
Yeah, y'all didn't hands down have the best roster in the league with the Celtics. Above and beyond everyone as far as having a complete team.
wtf are u talkin about? do u insist on soundin like u have no idea wtf u talkin bout?...spurs had tony parker-tim duncan-manu ginobli...the three stars they've consistently won with. nuggets had carmelo anthony, chauncey billups, nene, kenyon martin, ty lawson, jr smith. suns had nash-amare-jrich, back when they were all stars. mavs=dirk, kidd, butler, marion, jason terry, josh howard....then u had the lakers playing with gasol as a second fiddle, and odom as the third option. same odom who cant even sniff 20 minutes on the clippers just a couple years later. bynum was injured...lmao@acting like we were stacked compared to other teams in defense of lebron. come on, now, u can do better.
it's well documented that lebron, who's played in the leastern conference for his entire career, has had the easiest rode to the finals of all time, hands down. if u have nothin good to say, dont say nothin.
When LeBron over took the league, it was 2012. In 2012 the East picked up in talent, the teams were better and LeBron figured out how to win. Check this out, IT'S FUCKING 2013!!! You are talking about Kobe being the greatest with shit that happened 3 years ago. 3 Years ago, Kobe was the best in the world. In 2013, LeBron is the best in the world. Does that mean all time, NO.
Here is the break down. You talk teammates but in 2011, LeBron with basically the same team as today couldn't win the title. The Heat were built to win and they didn't. In the NBA Finals, Dwayne Wade fuckin' killed it, but LeBron crawled in fetal position and the Heat lost to the Mavericks. Had the Lakers been there, I think the Lakers would have won, because the pressure of the moment was too big for LeBron.
Fast forward 2012. The Heat are there, it's their moment and they had to be ready to take it. Instead of crawling into fetal position, LeBron took his game to that other level. For the first time in 3 tries, LeBron rose to the occasion and the Heat won the NBA Finals. For the rest of 2012 and now into 2013 LeBron has not let off. LeBron took his game to a higher level and not come down. When he's at the level, no one is touching him in 2013, and you have to look very hard to find players in history that come close. Maybe 2008-2010 Kobe, or 1991-1993 Jordan, or 1984-1987 Magic Johnson. You can still argue all those players in those times were better than LeBron. But that's not what's important right now. What's important is that 2012-2013 LeBron James is better than 2013 Kevin Durant, 2013 Kobe Bryant, 2013 Carmelo Anthony, and yes, 2013 Steph Curry. There is no one touching LeBron right now and he is rising to the occasion for the Heat to repeat as champions.
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lmao@the 2011 team bein the same as this one...
i love how mdogg just tries to explain what happened in this proffessing way, like he knows what the fuck he's talkin about.
good shit, my dude. at least u give an honest effort...but ur usually wrong or inaccurate when remembering the past LOL.
truth be told, ur goin in circles...i already acknowledged lebron havin the best season in basketball this year. but u fail to acknowledge my point that his team got better, which is indisputably a luxury...if u cant admit this, i have nothing else to say.
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NIK you don't find it odd that every poster agrees with M Dogg except for you??
"LeBron James is a really good friend of mine, a big inspiration, a guy I looked up to in high school, middle school, just hearing about him when he was in high school and being the No.1 pick out of high school was a pretty big accomplishment and now the stuff he's doing now, of course he's a big inspiration. I want to get there as well, so I just got to keep working." - Kevin Durant
also Kevin Durant admits to "obsessively" keeping track of Lebron James stats. you think MJ cared about what Barkley or Ewing were up to? lol
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Heat win by double digits
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lmao@the 2011 team bein the same as this one...
i love how mdogg just tries to explain what happened in this proffessing way, like he knows what the fuck he's talkin about.
good shit, my dude. at least u give an honest effort...but ur usually wrong or inaccurate when remembering the past LOL.
truth be told, ur goin in circles...i already acknowledged lebron havin the best season in basketball this year. but u fail to acknowledge my point that his team got better, which is indisputably a luxury...if u cant admit this, i have nothing else to say.
But you make it seem like the team discredits LeBron. It doesn't. The 2011 Miami Heat were Mario Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh and Joel Anthony with Ilgauskas, Udonis Haslem, James Jones, Miller and Bibby off the bench. The 2012 team was Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Battier and Bosh with Miller, James Jones, Udonis Haslem, Norris Cole and Turiaf off the bench. You basically had the same team, other than moving Bosh to center, signing Battier and moving Anthony down the bench. That's no different than when Lakers got back Bynum from injury, they moved Odom to the bench and Gasol to PF, and then the Lakers won the 2009 NBA title. Does that mean Kobe was to be discredited?
NIK, just face it, you are getting on LeBron for doing exactly what the Lakers did for Kobe to win in 2009. Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol and in 2009 a healthy Andrew Bynum with Lamar Odom off the bench with Shannon Brown.
Let's break it down like this. Who would you rather have as your starting 5:
Lakers:
Farmar
Brown
Walton
Odom
Mbenga
Heat:
Norris Cole
Mike Miller
James Jones
Udonis Haslem
Ronny Turiaf
Those are the benches for two championship teams. And that's why they win titles, because there is talent even on the bench. So don't discredit LeBron for the season he had or the team around him. Last time I checked, the Lakers had an All-Star on the bench when they won in 2009 and 2010 where as LeBron didn't.
Case close, not only admit LeBron is the best today, but give the man his due. He took so much shit for so long for not winning, let's give him credit for winning. Is that too hard to ask?
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on the radio today the topic is Lebron turning guys like Durant, Carmelo, Howard and CP3 into the new generation of Malone, Stockton, Ewing and Barkley
because the Heat certainly don't look like they will be challenged this year and maybe next year
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on the radio today the topic is Lebron turning guys like Durant, Carmelo, Howard and CP3 into the new generation of Malone, Stockton, Ewing and Barkley
because the Heat certainly don't look like they will be challenged this year and maybe next year
Oh, I have Carmelo labeled as that in 2003. CP3 and Howard, well this off season I'll let you know what I think. As for Durant, he is where Lebron was 5 years ago waiting for Kobe to decline and himself to peak. I have no doubt Durant will win a ring. The other 3, well lets see how the off season plays out.
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another thing, Westbrook is better than D-wade at this point so Durant has the better side kick
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LOL @ CHICAGO
over insecure bitches. stupid nazr muhammad LOL
your team needs depth and you get ejected lmao
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LeBron fell on purpose, man... watch that shit again. You don't fall on your back like that while your legs sweep forward.
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LeBron fell on purpose, man... watch that shit again. You don't fall on your back like that while your legs sweep forward.
he got pushed down
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Lol, I'm just tight this nigga fronted like the Spurs weren't injury ridden when the Lakers were winning.
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LeBron playin the complimentary role again lol
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LeBron fell on purpose, man... watch that shit again. You don't fall on your back like that while your legs sweep forward.
If it was anyone else, they'd be fined for floppin
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LeBron playin the complimentary role again lol
what's Kobe up to these days?
only courts Kobe is on is during a legal battle with his moms
in a wheel chair
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Lebron with a 3
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when is Noah a free agent? he's gonna earn some nice money
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foul #5 on Noah
uh ohhh
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it took awhile but we finally have a Chris Bosh sighting this playoffs
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Lebron with the huge 3
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NIK you really jinxed Lebron tonight
23 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists and some clutch shots in the 4th
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add an extra 2 points
25, 8 and 7 from King James tonight.
Bosh was my player of the game though, dude got 500 rebounds
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NIK where'd you go?? you were happy when it was a close game :D
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what do u mean where did i go? u serious?? this game was a classic example of what i meant....lebron sucked ass and ended up bein a complimentary player for the entire game, and the heat still won.
mdogg, be honest, did u watch the game? did u pay attention to how passive lebron was? did u see how it didnt matter, cuz he was dishing it to OTHERS who were handlin' business? thats what i meant 8)
kobe, melo, durant do not have this luxury...if u think they do, ur badly mistaking.
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lmao@the 2011 team bein the same as this one...
i love how mdogg just tries to explain what happened in this proffessing way, like he knows what the fuck he's talkin about.
good shit, my dude. at least u give an honest effort...but ur usually wrong or inaccurate when remembering the past LOL.
truth be told, ur goin in circles...i already acknowledged lebron havin the best season in basketball this year. but u fail to acknowledge my point that his team got better, which is indisputably a luxury...if u cant admit this, i have nothing else to say.
But you make it seem like the team discredits LeBron. It doesn't. The 2011 Miami Heat were Mario Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh and Joel Anthony with Ilgauskas, Udonis Haslem, James Jones, Miller and Bibby off the bench. The 2012 team was Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Battier and Bosh with Miller, James Jones, Udonis Haslem, Norris Cole and Turiaf off the bench. You basically had the same team, other than moving Bosh to center, signing Battier and moving Anthony down the bench. That's no different than when Lakers got back Bynum from injury, they moved Odom to the bench and Gasol to PF, and then the Lakers won the 2009 NBA title. Does that mean Kobe was to be discredited?
NIK, just face it, you are getting on LeBron for doing exactly what the Lakers did for Kobe to win in 2009. Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol and in 2009 a healthy Andrew Bynum with Lamar Odom off the bench with Shannon Brown.
Let's break it down like this. Who would you rather have as your starting 5:
Lakers:
Farmar
Brown
Walton
Odom
Mbenga
Heat:
Norris Cole
Mike Miller
James Jones
Udonis Haslem
Ronny Turiaf
Those are the benches for two championship teams. And that's why they win titles, because there is talent even on the bench. So don't discredit LeBron for the season he had or the team around him. Last time I checked, the Lakers had an All-Star on the bench when they won in 2009 and 2010 where as LeBron didn't.
Case close, not only admit LeBron is the best today, but give the man his due. He took so much shit for so long for not winning, let's give him credit for winning. Is that too hard to ask?
you're not a laker fan....
for u to compare the way lebron got with wade and bosh to form an all-star team to our management making trades and using draft picks to obtain gasol and bynum is really quite sad. ur card has officially been revoked.
and we also never had an all-star on the bench....i think the m in your name might be for misinformation lmao
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it took awhile but we finally have a Chris Bosh sighting this playoffs
bosh and cole saved this game
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lmao@the 2011 team bein the same as this one...
i love how mdogg just tries to explain what happened in this proffessing way, like he knows what the fuck he's talkin about.
good shit, my dude. at least u give an honest effort...but ur usually wrong or inaccurate when remembering the past LOL.
truth be told, ur goin in circles...i already acknowledged lebron havin the best season in basketball this year. but u fail to acknowledge my point that his team got better, which is indisputably a luxury...if u cant admit this, i have nothing else to say.
But you make it seem like the team discredits LeBron. It doesn't. The 2011 Miami Heat were Mario Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh and Joel Anthony with Ilgauskas, Udonis Haslem, James Jones, Miller and Bibby off the bench. The 2012 team was Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Battier and Bosh with Miller, James Jones, Udonis Haslem, Norris Cole and Turiaf off the bench. You basically had the same team, other than moving Bosh to center, signing Battier and moving Anthony down the bench. That's no different than when Lakers got back Bynum from injury, they moved Odom to the bench and Gasol to PF, and then the Lakers won the 2009 NBA title. Does that mean Kobe was to be discredited?
NIK, just face it, you are getting on LeBron for doing exactly what the Lakers did for Kobe to win in 2009. Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol and in 2009 a healthy Andrew Bynum with Lamar Odom off the bench with Shannon Brown.
Let's break it down like this. Who would you rather have as your starting 5:
Lakers:
Farmar
Brown
Walton
Odom
Mbenga
Heat:
Norris Cole
Mike Miller
James Jones
Udonis Haslem
Ronny Turiaf
Those are the benches for two championship teams. And that's why they win titles, because there is talent even on the bench. So don't discredit LeBron for the season he had or the team around him. Last time I checked, the Lakers had an All-Star on the bench when they won in 2009 and 2010 where as LeBron didn't.
Case close, not only admit LeBron is the best today, but give the man his due. He took so much shit for so long for not winning, let's give him credit for winning. Is that too hard to ask?
you're not a laker fan....
for u to compare the way lebron got with wade and bosh to form an all-star team to our management making trades and using draft picks to obtain gasol and bynum is really quite sad. ur card has officially been revoked.
and we also never had an all-star on the bench....i think the m in your name might be for misinformation lmao
HAHAHAHA... You, revoke my card... HAHAHAHAHA
No, the difference is, I AM A LAKER FAN. You are a Kobe Stan. There is a BIG difference. I would rather have the Lakers have a deep line up with many future hall of famers and win. You'd rather Kobe go 5 on 1 every play and score just so you can talk about his greatness. And there is nothing wrong with super teams. The Lakers have had super teams many, many times.
West, Baylor, Chamberlain and Goodrich, all hall of famers
Magic, Worthy and Kareem, all hall of famers
Dude, face it, the Lakers are basketball's version of the Yankees. And you know what, I LOVE IT. I love that that Lakers can be deep and build super teams and win 16 titles. Because you don't get 16 titles without having a super team or two.
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lmao@the 2011 team bein the same as this one...
i love how mdogg just tries to explain what happened in this proffessing way, like he knows what the fuck he's talkin about.
good shit, my dude. at least u give an honest effort...but ur usually wrong or inaccurate when remembering the past LOL.
truth be told, ur goin in circles...i already acknowledged lebron havin the best season in basketball this year. but u fail to acknowledge my point that his team got better, which is indisputably a luxury...if u cant admit this, i have nothing else to say.
But you make it seem like the team discredits LeBron. It doesn't. The 2011 Miami Heat were Mario Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh and Joel Anthony with Ilgauskas, Udonis Haslem, James Jones, Miller and Bibby off the bench. The 2012 team was Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Battier and Bosh with Miller, James Jones, Udonis Haslem, Norris Cole and Turiaf off the bench. You basically had the same team, other than moving Bosh to center, signing Battier and moving Anthony down the bench. That's no different than when Lakers got back Bynum from injury, they moved Odom to the bench and Gasol to PF, and then the Lakers won the 2009 NBA title. Does that mean Kobe was to be discredited?
NIK, just face it, you are getting on LeBron for doing exactly what the Lakers did for Kobe to win in 2009. Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol and in 2009 a healthy Andrew Bynum with Lamar Odom off the bench with Shannon Brown.
Let's break it down like this. Who would you rather have as your starting 5:
Lakers:
Farmar
Brown
Walton
Odom
Mbenga
Heat:
Norris Cole
Mike Miller
James Jones
Udonis Haslem
Ronny Turiaf
Those are the benches for two championship teams. And that's why they win titles, because there is talent even on the bench. So don't discredit LeBron for the season he had or the team around him. Last time I checked, the Lakers had an All-Star on the bench when they won in 2009 and 2010 where as LeBron didn't.
Case close, not only admit LeBron is the best today, but give the man his due. He took so much shit for so long for not winning, let's give him credit for winning. Is that too hard to ask?
you're not a laker fan....
for u to compare the way lebron got with wade and bosh to form an all-star team to our management making trades and using draft picks to obtain gasol and bynum is really quite sad. ur card has officially been revoked.
and we also never had an all-star on the bench....i think the m in your name might be for misinformation lmao
HAHAHAHA... You, revoke my card... HAHAHAHAHA
No, the difference is, I AM A LAKER FAN. You are a Kobe Stan. There is a BIG difference. I would rather have the Lakers have a deep line up with many future hall of famers and win. You'd rather Kobe go 5 on 1 every play and score just so you can talk about his greatness. And there is nothing wrong with super teams. The Lakers have had super teams many, many times.
West, Baylor, Chamberlain and Goodrich, all hall of famers
Magic, Worthy and Kareem, all hall of famers
Dude, face it, the Lakers are basketball's version of the Yankees. And you know what, I LOVE IT. I love that that Lakers can be deep and build super teams and win 16 titles. Because you don't get 16 titles without having a super team or two.
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u think we missed the playoffs with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u think we won the finals with Vladimir Radmanovic
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u claim we won back-to-back with an all-star coming off the bench in '09-'10
and most of all.....
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u are making up all these lies in blind defense of LeBron and the Miami Heat to dispute the fact that a fellow Laker fan is pointing out that Kobe would also look pretty amazing right now playing for the Heat.
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u ARE NOT a laker fan if u think we missed the playoffs with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u think we won the finals with Vladimir Radmanovic
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u claim we won back-to-back with an all-star coming off the bench in '09-'10
and most of all.....
u ARE NOT a laker fan if u are making up all these lies in blind defense of LeBron and the Miami Heat to dispute the fact that a fellow Laker fan is pointing out that Kobe would also look pretty amazing right now playing for the Heat.
LOL... You are too much. Lies in defense of LeBron. No, I am looking at facts and looking at current basketball. I am seeing reality. Also, LeBron and the Heat winning does absolutely NOTHING for me. I've said it before, they can go on and win all they want, because they aren't catching the Lakers. The Lakers got lucky in the 90's when the Bulls and Michael Jordan won all those titles. Because had the Celtics took over the 90's, then we'd NEVER catch the Celtics. The only team I care about is the Celtics. The Celtics are the Lakers rivals.
Now do the Heat annoy me, oh hell yes. They got Pat Riley, that bugs me, they won a title with Shaq, that REALLY bugged me, they built the Lakers in the East, which really got to me for a while. But after a while, I realized, that's cute. 16>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2. That's all that matters. At the end of the year it's 16>>>>>>>3. It's 5>>>>>>>1, at the end of the year it's 5>>>>>>>>>>2. If I truly thought LeBron could win 5 titles in his career as the main man, I might be more worried. But I don't see his game carrying him for another 3 years, let alone the Heat actually winning 5 titles in a row. The only way LeBron wins 5 titles is if the Heat do it in a row, and I don't see his body being able to maintain that type of game. So honestly, the Heat don't bug me and LeBron don't bug me. Now if LeBron was a Celtic, then I'd be almost as mad at you. But dude, wake up and realize the Heat mean absolutely JACKSHIT to the Lakers.
Which team would I rather root for:
16 NBA titles
only missed the playoffs 6 times since 1948
25 Hall of Famers
The only franchise to be in the NBA Finals every decade since the 1940's in their old league.
or
2 NBA titles
Missed the playoffs 8 times since 1988
2 Hall of Famers and only 3 NBA Finals appearances
The Heat and LeBron don't scare me, so why should I do anything but speak the truth to their team and game.
Now the Celtics.... Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Fuck 'Em!
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Heat have 4 HOFers
Bron, Wade, Ray Ray and Shaq Diesel
plus they had Gary Payton too :D
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Heat have 4 HOFers
Bron, Wade, Ray Ray and Shaq Diesel
plus they had Gary Payton too :D
Then the Lakers have 29
Kobe, Shaq, Gasol and Phil
8)
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you really think Marc Gasol is gonna go to the Lakers and make it to the HOF?? cuz Pau sure isn't an HOFer :D
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you really think Marc Gasol is gonna go to the Lakers and make it to the HOF?? cuz Pau sure isn't an HOFer :D
lmao if u think pau aint makin HOF
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you really think Marc Gasol is gonna go to the Lakers and make it to the HOF?? cuz Pau sure isn't an HOFer :D
lmao if u think pau aint makin HOF
Pau is most def a HoFer. His overall basketball contributions make him one. Maybe not first ballot, but he will get in. And Marc Gasol makes the Gasol for Gasol/Brown trade look really good for both sides. It was just that the wrong Gasols were on the wrong team, and they switched it. Great trade in the long run.
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Heat have 4 HOFers
Bron, Wade, Ray Ray and Shaq Diesel
plus they had Gary Payton too :D
Just look at all that homegrown talent that started in Miami.
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Heat have 4 HOFers
Bron, Wade, Ray Ray and Shaq Diesel
plus they had Gary Payton too :D
Just look at all that homegrown talent that started in Miami.
There's no homegrown talent in the NBA man lol. Just OKC and the Spurs.
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Heat have 4 HOFers
Bron, Wade, Ray Ray and Shaq Diesel
plus they had Gary Payton too :D
Just look at all that homegrown talent that started in Miami.
There's no homegrown talent in the NBA man lol. Just OKC and the Spurs.
I was making the point that of that list Shaq won 3 titles with the Lakers and was out of his prime, Ray Ray was years out of his prime, and GP was playing on old man legs. That's like saying Jerry Rice is a Seahawk hall of famer and Ricky Henderson is a Mariners hall of famer.
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Signed a kid to a contract at 17, still have him at 34 (damn, half his life!); that's pretty home grown.
But I think the NBA is harder to have homegrown talent. The sport is more individual than the other sports, so once your rookie contract runs up you are looking to sign for the big dollars and "test the market." Even Kobe did it in 2004. So you have less homegrown talent and more people putting money into proven players. Also I think the whole high school to NBA hurt too, because even if you build off the draft, there is a huge chance your pick who you are counting on, doesn't pan out because they are not mature enough to carry a team. (see Howard, Dwight) Also you only get two picks per draft, and usually if you are not in the top 10, you are not going to get elite talent. So if you are always winning and you want to build for the future, your best bet is to get talent for elsewhere because you are not drafting it yourself.
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you really think Marc Gasol is gonna go to the Lakers and make it to the HOF?? cuz Pau sure isn't an HOFer :D
lmao if u think pau aint makin HOF
he might make it thanks to dickrider Laker fans but he sure doesn't deserve it
he's a softy ass euro
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you really think Marc Gasol is gonna go to the Lakers and make it to the HOF?? cuz Pau sure isn't an HOFer :D
lmao if u think pau aint makin HOF
he might make it thanks to dickrider Laker fans but he sure doesn't deserve it
he's a softy ass euro
are u serious? his european resume is enough to get him in the hall-of-fame, let alone his all-star years with memphis+glory years with the lakers winning rings.
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so winning a bunch of bronze medals means something now?
he won't end his career with 20,000 points or 10,000 rebounds despite starting in the NBA at age 21
he never won a playoff game in 6 years in Memphis
he's never received ANY MVP voting in his entire career...not even 1% of an MVP share.
despite playing in 3 NBA finals he's not even close to top 50 all time in playoff scoring
do i need to keep going?
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so winning a bunch of bronze medals means something now?
he won't end his career with 20,000 points or 10,000 rebounds despite starting in the NBA at age 21
he never won a playoff game in 6 years in Memphis
he's never received ANY MVP voting in his entire career...not even 1% of an MVP share.
despite playing in 3 NBA finals he's not even close to top 50 all time in playoff scoring
do i need to keep going?
It's the "Basketball Hall of Fame". It's way easier to get into than the MLB or NFL. People get in for all kinds of other shit outside of their achievements in the NBA. Dude is clearly one of the best international players the game has seen and was really a trailblazer for other Spanish players, that shit's gonna go far. Not to mention 3 finals appearances and two wins. Not far-fetched at all to think he'll make it.
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ugh you might be right sadly
Ralph fucking Sampson made the HOF and he had 2 good years in the NBA
stupid basketball HOF...always a step behind Cooperstown (minus the veterans committee, those guys are clowns)
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pau is a shoe-in and it ain't even close
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pau is a shoe-in and it ain't even close
and he'd be the worst HOFer ever
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Maurice Stokes got in after a 3 year career
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Maurice Stokes got in after a 3 year career
and i'd still take him over Pow Gas-hole
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Maurice Stokes got in after a 3 year career
and i'd still take him over Pow Gas-hole
pau has had a much better nba career than him LOL
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Maurice Stokes got in after a 3 year career
and i'd still take him over Pow Gas-hole
pau has had a much better nba career than him LOL
Stokes had twice as many rebounds per game :D
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Pau's getting in for his work in Spain.
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Lebron is on too damn good
27 points
meanwhile D-wade only has 6 points....what a bum
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LeBron James and Memphis guard Tony Allen headline the NBA All-Defensive First Team.
The league announced Monday that Allen received 53 points in the voting, while the Miami Heat star had 52. Each player had 25 first-team votes from the NBA's 30 head coaches.
The pair were joined on the first team by Clippers guard Chris Paul (37 points), Thunder forward Serge Ibaka (46), Knicks center Tyson Chandler (24) and Bulls center Joakim Noah (24).
Marc Gasol, who was the NBA's defensive player of the year, made the second team. He was joined on that squad by Celtics guard Avery Bradley, Grizzlies guard Mike Conley, Spurs forward Tim Duncan and Pacers forward Paul George.
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meanwhile D-wade only has 6 points....what a bum
Nigga is barely complimentary.
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Am I missing something? How is Gasol defensive player of the year, yet doesn't make the first team?
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Am I missing something? How is Gasol defensive player of the year, yet doesn't make the first team?
Lmfaooooooo. Wild.
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Am I missing something? How is Gasol defensive player of the year, yet doesn't make the first team?
i think this happened a few years ago too
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It happened last year too. What happened is sportscasters vote on Defensive Player of the Year and coaches vote to make the All Defensive teams.
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It's a bad look though.
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It's a bad look though.
agreed
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Oh, alright. It makes sense. Still somewhat weird though.
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sounds like Wade might miss game 5
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His defense will be missed.
Bosh says he expects him to play though so I wouldn't count him out.
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if I'm coach Spoe I rest Wade...you don't need him to beat the Bulls
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Pierce and KGs days in Boston look like they're over.
Will one of them land in South Beach?
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KG only wants to play for the Clippers or Lakers
but Pierce...i have no idea. I'd like to see both of them wind up on the Clippers (assuming we don't keep them in Boston)
imagine the Clippers with CP3, Crawford, The Blake Show, Billups, Pierce, KG backing up Blake for 10-15 minutes a night....that's a nightmare
and Pierce would be home in LA and not playing for the evil Lakers
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Too many jumbled pieces. No chemistry.
But for fun, I'd even consider putting KG at center.
CP3
Crawford
Pierce
Blake
KG
With DeAndre, Odom, Hill, Bledsoe, Barnes, Billups and Butler off the bench. Lmfao.
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that would be a sick team come playoff time
CP3 and Blake would carry them to the playoffs and then Pierce would give them a much needed additional scoring option
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We don't want em send em to the clips
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that would be a sick team come playoff time
CP3 and Blake would carry them to the playoffs and then Pierce would give them a much needed additional scoring option
Meh. Too soft still. No defense. No chemistry. A Westbrook OKC team would beat them.
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very possible but at least the Clip-show would put up a nice fight
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very possible but at least the Clip-show would put up a nice fight
And they'd be a hundred times more relevant than the Lakers.
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110x
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
is Dr. Buss running things from the grave?
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
is Dr. Buss running things from the grave?
Mitch is, and he'll do fine. He can't pick a coach worth a damn, but he can always move things around to get talent. He's proven that.
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
lol we will be better than the clips next year
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
lol we will be better than the clips next year
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20700000/FacePalm-sonic-the-hedgehog-20759825-500-400.jpg)
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
lol we will be better than the clips next year
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20700000/FacePalm-sonic-the-hedgehog-20759825-500-400.jpg)
failpic don't work
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Clippers will win over 50 next year
Lakers? they might be lucky to make the playoffs again
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IT'S GAME TIME BITCHES
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i can't believe Miami is playing Wade...he needs to rest that knee of his for the conf finals
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For the next 5 years, maybe. But anytime during that, and afterwards, I just don't see the Lakers staying down for long.
I don't know about all that. Unless they are so awful next year & land Andrew Wiggins, I don't see all that bright of a future for them.
No rising talent, Dwight's probably leaving. Gasol's on the back end. Nash is 40.
The only hope is getting a top five pick turn out like Kobe or a Superstar like Durant heads to LA. Not that it's an crazy thought, could happen. Just not guaranteed.
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durant is extremely loyal so i don't see him going to LA
i DO see Kevin Love going there though...but he's a pussy
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I didn't really mean Durant. Just someone of his caliber. It's either that or years of sucking of rebuilding.
It's LA though, probably more likely Superstars want to be next in line to run LA.
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why doe? who wants to be in the shadow of Magic, Shaq or Kobe?
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LA is a big time market, bruh.
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LA is a big time market, bruh.
players should want to win, not go to a big market and lose
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lmao@not realizing what a dream come true it is for most players to be playin in LA for an organization like the Lakers. playin for the lakers is like bein part of an elite group. somethin like bein part of the illuminati.
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lmao@not realizing what a dream come true it is for most players to be playin in LA for an organization like the Lakers. playin for the lakers is like bein part of an elite group. somethin like bein part of the illuminati.
which is why Dwight Howard is gonna leave ya'll?
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lmao@not realizing what a dream come true it is for most players to be playin in LA for an organization like the Lakers. playin for the lakers is like bein part of an elite group. somethin like bein part of the illuminati.
which is why Dwight Howard is gonna leave ya'll?
dwight is a douche with no heart who cant stand the pressure that comes with playin for a world-class organization in a cutthoat city.
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lmao@not realizing what a dream come true it is for most players to be playin in LA for an organization like the Lakers. playin for the lakers is like bein part of an elite group. somethin like bein part of the illuminati.
which is why Dwight Howard is gonna leave ya'll?
dwight is a douche with no heart
can't disagree with you here.
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the Miami Heat advance to the Eastern Conference Finals
Heat have won 45 of their last 48 games, reg season or playoffs. that's INSANE!
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meanwhile d-rose is a huge vagina
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if miami plays like this, indiana is gunna upset them
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if miami plays like this, indiana is gunna upset them
not a chance
but indy wins 2 games i think
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assuming Stern doesn't pull some NY Knicks magic with the refs :D
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Lebron is close to 3,500 career playoff points
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Lmao, anybody remember when NIK said "LeBron isn't a leader, he doesn't make players around him better, Kobe does and LeBron is a mediocre defender"?
Shits right up there with T-Mac being better, Farmar being a future Hall of Famer and Bynum the second coming of Wilt.
Heat in six. #GodBless
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Lmao, anybody remember when NIK said "LeBron isn't a leader, he doesn't make players around him better, Kobe does and LeBron is a mediocre defender"?
Shits right up there with T-Mac being better, Farmar being a future Hall of Famer and Bynum the second coming of Wilt.
Heat in six. #GodBless
i do remember :D
smh @ the T-mac or melo being better threads....pure trolling on Elior's behalf.
meanwhile Lebron took over Miami and made people forget how amazing D-wade once was =-O
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anyone else wonder why Zydrunas Ilgalskus retired? dude woulda won a title last year
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damn, Durant is 2-10 so far
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Lmao, anybody remember when NIK said "LeBron isn't a leader, he doesn't make players around him better, Kobe does and LeBron is a mediocre defender"?
Shits right up there with T-Mac being better, Farmar being a future Hall of Famer and Bynum the second coming of Wilt.
Heat in six. #GodBless
lebron doesnt need to be a leader, he's playin on a team built to win with or without him..the reason he left cleveland to play with 2 other superstars was because he couldnt face all the pressure and needed more alpha males around him to succeed. he was also known as a below average defender for years before he started workin on his d, and there was a stretch where he was comparable to t-mac, prior to t-mac's career bein derailed by injuries, so calm down wit that leboner ya gettin over there.
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Nigga's gotta be high right now.
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Lebron is the best basketball player since MJ in 1998.....well except for Kevin Garnett in his MVP year :D
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Indiana/Heat should be good, didnt they go to 7 last season?
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
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Indiana/Heat should be good, didnt they go to 7 last season?
6
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
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D-Rose just announced he'll play in game 6 vs the Heat
:D
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anyone else wonder why Zydrunas Ilgalskus retired? dude woulda won a title last year
Dude was injury prone so maybe he couldn't go on anymore. Even for 1 more year.
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to not understand I'm a LeBron fan by now...lmfao.
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i hope the Knicks can come back...Knicks vs Heat is a lot better of a matchup for the NBA
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i hope the Knicks can come back...Knicks vs Heat is a lot better of a matchup for the NBA
Ratings wise yes, but don't forget last yr the heat went through both of these teams in the postseason on an injury plagued team. Especially the pacers where they beat them without C-Bosh anchoring the middle of that very beautiful D:)
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i hope the Knicks can come back...Knicks vs Heat is a lot better of a matchup for the NBA
Ratings wise yes, but don't forget last yr the heat went through both of these teams in the postseason on an injury plagued team. Especially the pacers where they beat them without C-Bosh anchoring the middle of that very beautiful D:)
this is true
what Lebron did in some of those games was amazing. but not as amazing as Lebron's game 6 against my Celtics. That series killed me lol
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^^^ without C.Bosh they dont come out of that series-Soon as he came back he opened up the paint with his 20 footers and did his thing defensively in the paint
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I predict Heat win in 6
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to not understand I'm a LeBron fan by now...lmfao.
So ur a heat fan to the point of "shitting ur pants" if the heat don't win because u like LeBron? Embarrasing.
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to not understand I'm a LeBron fan by now...lmfao.
So ur a heat fan to the point of "shitting ur pants" if the heat don't win because u like LeBron? Embarrasing.
I'm not allowed to be a LeBron fan? As mod you get to dictate what we can root for?
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to not understand I'm a LeBron fan by now...lmfao.
So ur a heat fan to the point of "shitting ur pants" if the heat don't win because u like LeBron? Embarrasing.
I'm not allowed to be a LeBron fan? As mod you get to dictate what we can root for?
ur allowed to be whatever u want, as long as u dont claim ur straight
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Good one.
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I'd be shitting my pants pretty heavy if Granger was playing.
full fledged heat fan now? u completely given up on the sixers, huh?? smh
I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to not understand I'm a LeBron fan by now...lmfao.
So ur a heat fan to the point of "shitting ur pants" if the heat don't win because u like LeBron? Embarrasing.
I'm not allowed to be a LeBron fan? As mod you get to dictate what we can root for?
ur allowed to be whatever u want, as long as u dont claim ur straight
lmao
I am also a fan of Lebron's work. He is very exciting to watch.
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game 1 coming up tmrw
Lebron marches toward history
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8:30 tonight
the march toward history continues #Lebron
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8) game time
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CLUTCH 3 BY LEBRON!
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Paul George !!!
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ray ray chokes it away in regulation
shame on him :D
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Had a feelin
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LEBRON WITH THE WINNING BASKET
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HOLY SHIT
what a game
another triple double for King James.
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that defense by indiana at the end was pathetic, why the hell was hibbert not in the game the last 2 possessions?
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that defense by indiana at the end was pathetic, why the hell was hibbert not in the game the last 2 possessions?
Barkley agrees with not putting him out there
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that defense by indiana at the end was pathetic, why the hell was hibbert not in the game the last 2 possessions?
Barkley agrees with not putting him out there
barkley is an idiot
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I think it was retarded, but everyone seems to think it was the right play.
Doesn't make sense to me...they made it sound like if Roy was in, he would of helped on the drive and Bosh would have been open. So couldn't they put Roy out there and tell him not to leave Bosh? Kinda weird to me.
But whatever, King James with the game winner.
Can't believe they called that foul on Wade.
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worst defended game winner of all-time...so many things wrong with that play- first off, no matter what the apologists say, frank vogel should be fired for taking out what he calls "the best rim protecter in the league" in the final moments of a tied game...paul george was completely out his mind for that poor excuse for defensive positioning- instead of letting lebron catch the ball in front of him, he plays him to the left, giving him a wide open lane. wtf? also, wtf was sam young thinking? at least go for the block and make them earn it at the line instead of giving up a wide open lay-up smfh..he was definitely in position to contest it, yet he just stood still. this mental break-down mighta caused indiana the series.
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Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
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He hit huge shots and made big plays the whole way down the stretch.
It's actually Paul George's fault. If he didn't jump the route and let LeBron catch the ball in front of him, Bron woulda be forced to take an off balanced jumper.
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Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
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Yeah, nigga scored a passive 30 lol.
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Yeah, nigga scored a passive 30 lol.
im talking about the final minutes...if hibbert wasnt removed from the game, lebron woulda been scoreless in OT. he was passing up shots on literally every possession before indiana's defense broke down.
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High pick and roll out to three. If both stay with Bron on the pick, the shooter is wide open.
One leaves to take the shooter, LeBron works the one on one.
It's called "team" basketball. Lakers best stretch of the season is when Kobe was passing. Relax and take notes.
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First player in NBA history to finish with a triple-double and hit a game winning shot in the same game. 8)
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High pick and roll out to three. If both stay with Bron on the pick, the shooter is wide open.
One leaves to take the shooter, LeBron works the one on one.
It's called "team" basketball. Lakers best stretch of the season is when Kobe was passing. Relax and take notes.
it's called getting hella lucky cuz frank vogel is a dumbass
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You can't consider yourself knowledgeable if you think Vog is a bad coach.
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You can't consider yourself knowledgeable if you think Vog is a bad coach.
i actually dont think hes a bad coach, but that was a career defining moment in his coaching career...i'm sure he'll learn from it, but any1 who doesnt think it was completely moronic is a moron themselves.
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Plenty of people saw where he was coming from.
Again, if Paul George just squared him up off the inbound, LeBron's taking a jumper anyway. Sam Young should of tried to make a play on the ball too. At least send LeBron to the line.
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Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
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2013 Playoff Points Per Game
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 30.8
2. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 28.8
3. James Harden-HOU 26.3
4. LeBron James-MIA 24.6
5. Stephen Curry-GSW 23.4
6. Chris Paul-LAC 22.8
7. Brook Lopez-BRK 22.3
8. Tony Parker-SAS 21.6
9. Ty Lawson-DEN 21.3
10. Deron Williams-BRK 20.6
I don't see D-wade on there...or Bosh. I thought they were franchise players?
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.
My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.
And lmfao@misinformation dogg writing anyone off when it comes to credibility. U couldn't hold my jockstrap when it comes to basketball knowledge, son
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Plenty of people saw where he was coming from.
Again, if Paul George just squared him up off the inbound, LeBron's taking a jumper anyway. Sam Young should of tried to make a play on the ball too. At least send LeBron to the line.
Plenty of idiots**
Go read the pacer forum. Cats callin for his head n alla that
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.
My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.
If it wasn't, would have been, would have...it's all pointless. What matters is what actually happened. And it's not like it's the 1st time that a clutch basket was a product of a defense breakdown. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's "did somebody take advantage of the stupidity or not?" that's important here.
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.
My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.
If it wasn't, would have been, would have...it's all pointless. What matters is what actually happened. And it's not like it's the 1st time that a clutch basket was a product of a defense breakdown. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's "did somebody take advantage of the stupidity or not?" that's important here.
Ur right, but at the same time, being guarded by George Hilll one on one and following it up with an uncontested layup ain't exactly enough for us to say he's a new player .. Up until that point, he was playin very similar to how he did vs Dallas down the stretch. I was watching the whole game thinkin to myself "I bet all the LeBron fans can see what I mean". Then the 2 layups came and erased that. It's just not enough to convince me, I can still see Indiana winning the series (though their chances just got much lower). He has gotten better with the nervousness, but there's still times where u can see it in his body language, and u can't convince me otherwise.
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MDogg knows.
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.
really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.
So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.
My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.
If it wasn't, would have been, would have...it's all pointless. What matters is what actually happened. And it's not like it's the 1st time that a clutch basket was a product of a defense breakdown. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's "did somebody take advantage of the stupidity or not?" that's important here.
Ur right, but at the same time, being guarded by George Hilll one on one and following it up with an uncontested layup ain't exactly enough for us to say he's a new player .. Up until that point, he was playin very similar to how he did vs Dallas down the stretch. I was watching the whole game thinkin to myself "I bet all the LeBron fans can see what I mean". Then the 2 layups came and erased that. It's just not enough to convince me, I can still see Indiana winning the series (though their chances just got much lower). He has gotten better with the nervousness, but there's still times where u can see it in his body language, and u can't convince me otherwise.
Of course, it's a process after all. He can't make that transition over night, especially since you can tell he's not "a natural" at it. But with a ring (maybe rings), game winning shots like this, winning in general...his confidence will continue to rise and with that, his willingness to take clutch shots. He still has huge improvements to make in this area, which is kinda crazy/scary for his opponents.
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NBA Career Playoff Leaders and Records for Points:
PLAYERS LEFT IN PLAYOFFS ONLY
7. Tim Duncan 4443
15. LeBron James 3521
18. Tony Parker 3132
25. Dwyane Wade 2899
35. Ray Allen 2444
38. Manu Ginobili 2344
164. Rashard Lewis 1090
200. Chris Bosh 947
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I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.
My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.
And lmfao@misinformation dogg writing anyone off when it comes to credibility. U couldn't hold my jockstrap when it comes to basketball knowledge, son
Don't act like Kobe took advantage of broken down defenses. I'll agree with you that the Pacers messed up. But great players expose that and win. And that's what Lebron did, and that's what makes him great.
As I said, not worth it.
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Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town. Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.
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Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town. Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.
wasnt kobe's prime
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Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town. Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.
wasnt kobe's prime
so kobe only won 2 titles in her prime? what's ur excuse gonna be when Lebron wins his 2nd title this June? or if Mr. Duncan wins his 5th title this June? they gonna cleveland steamer on your chest son. best beware like u Mystikal.
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NIK you gonna root for Lebron to win #2 or Duncan to win #5? what's it gonna be brobro?
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Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town. Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.
wasnt kobe's prime
so kobe only won 2 titles in her prime? what's ur excuse gonna be when Lebron wins his 2nd title this June? or if Mr. Duncan wins his 5th title this June? they gonna cleveland steamer on your chest son. best beware like u Mystikal.
Kobe was actually entering his prime in 2001-2002...before that, he was still a leader, but he wasn't at his best yet. still enough to match shaq's out-put, as they were always a 1-2 punch and never a batman-and-robin. they would take turns running the show...but ultimately, the offense had to run through shaq, even when phil jackson wanted otherwise, so shaq did have the seniority, and that was never the question.
as for spurs vs miami, thats a tough one...really whack that it's a potential reality, but oh well. at least daygostylez is somewhere smilin'.
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lebron with 19 now
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paul george doing work today
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lebron with the buzzer beating shot to end the 3rd
wow
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King James with 31 so far
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OH SHIT...NIK has some masturbation material tonight as Miami is gonna lose LOL
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the funny thing is that this is just one more game that Lebron is 30 points closer to passing Kobe on the playoff scoring list 8)
by the time Lebron's career is done he'll be #1 on the all time playoff scoring list because MJ retired and sacrificed a good 500-1500 playoff points
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the top 10 playes ever...according to the MVP Voters era:
1. Michael Jordan* 8.138
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 6.203
3. Larry Bird* 5.693
4. LeBron James 5.387
5. Magic Johnson* 5.129
6. Bill Russell* 4.827
7. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
8. Karl Malone* 4.296
9. Wilt Chamberlain* 4.269
10. Tim Duncan 4.261
lmao @ no Kobe on there
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lol
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It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
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Im expecting Miami to bounce back after this loss. Over the last 2 seasons, they usually come up with a bigtime win after a playoff loss. Having said that, Indiana looks tougher than I thought and theres no doubt they are putting Miami to the test. This series has been great after 2 games, and looks like its only going to get better.
On a side not, all Raptor fans should be shaking there heads watching Hibbert play now. Guess that trade for a washed up and overpaid Jermaine Oneal looks even more terrible than it already did.
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It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
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Realistically GSW should've beaten the Spurs. Realistically if David Lee played, GSW would've won. Realistically, if Z-Bo hadn't sucked so far, SAS wouldn't lead 2:0. If....
Btw what excatly have you been saying? I'm not sure, you say a lot of things and it's hard to keep track :)
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2013 Playoff scoring
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 282
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
5. Paul George-IND 278
6. Tony Parker-SAS 259
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 234
8. Marc Gasol-MEM 228
9. Mike Conley-MEM 226
10. David West-IND 225
where's Kobe?
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2013 Playoff scoring
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 282
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
5. Paul George-IND 278
6. Tony Parker-SAS 259
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 234
8. Marc Gasol-MEM 228
9. Mike Conley-MEM 226
10. David West-IND 225
where's Kobe?
kobe didnt play in the playoffs, broken head...lol@lebron bein almost 100 points behind melo. very jordanesque.
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2013 Playoff scoring
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 282
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
5. Paul George-IND 278
6. Tony Parker-SAS 259
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 234
8. Marc Gasol-MEM 228
9. Mike Conley-MEM 226
10. David West-IND 225
where's Kobe?
kobe didnt play in the playoffs, broken head...lol@lebron bein almost 100 points behind melo. very jordanesque.
Lebron's team: 9-2
Marshmelo's team: 6-6
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and if I'm "Broken head" (stop stealing K-mac's steez, doggy) then you are Noseface bc your nose takes up all of your face :D
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Realistically GSW should've beaten the Spurs. Realistically if David Lee played, GSW would've won. Realistically, if Z-Bo hadn't sucked so far, SAS wouldn't lead 2:0. If....
Btw what excatly have you been saying? I'm not sure, you say a lot of things and it's hard to keep track :)
LEBRON IS A PRODUCT OF THE NBA. IS HE A BEAST? NO DOUBT ABOUT IT...IS HE INVINCIBLE LIKE HE'S MADE OUT TO BE? HELL NAH
marketing ploy, nba brand, backed by the nike machine, david stern's cash-cow, no rape trials, company man, made to look head-and-shoulders above the rest, benefit of every whistle.....u get the point. shit, i wouldnt be surprised if the chris paul trade to LA getting vetoed had somethin to do with the league wanting to maintain LeBron as the face of the league, head-and-shoulders above the rest ala MJ in the 90s. Stern been lookin for that player to make his new son after MJ retired, and it's been LeBron since he came in the league. OKC trades James Harden, Clayton Bennett is a close friend of Stern's....who the fuck knows. what i do know is that LeBron aint untouchable. not by a long shot.
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and if I'm "Broken head" (stop stealing K-mac's steez, doggy) then you are Noseface bc your nose takes up all of your face :D
that was lame... k-macc does have some dope 1-liners, tho
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so wait, Lebron is supposed to have a rape trial?
anyways Lebron is the youngest to every scoring milestone in history...there's no "hype" in that, just facts
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2013 Playoff scoring
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 282
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
5. Paul George-IND 278
6. Tony Parker-SAS 259
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 234
8. Marc Gasol-MEM 228
9. Mike Conley-MEM 226
10. David West-IND 225
where's Kobe?
kobe didnt play in the playoffs, broken head...lol@lebron bein almost 100 points behind melo. very jordanesque.
Lebron's team: 9-2
Marshmelo's team: 6-6
thats dope and all, but the heat without lebron are better than the Knicks period LOL
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so wait, Lebron is supposed to have a rape trial?
anyways Lebron is the youngest to every scoring milestone in history...there's no "hype" in that, just facts
having a clean slate is what gave him that extra push by Stern and the NBA... once colorado came along, Kobe had no shot.
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2013 Playoff scoring
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 282
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
5. Paul George-IND 278
6. Tony Parker-SAS 259
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 234
8. Marc Gasol-MEM 228
9. Mike Conley-MEM 226
10. David West-IND 225
where's Kobe?
kobe didnt play in the playoffs, broken head...lol@lebron bein almost 100 points behind melo. very jordanesque.
Lebron's team: 9-2
Marshmelo's team: 6-6
thats dope and all, but the heat without lebron are better than the Knicks period LOL
didn't the Knicks beat the Heat without Carmelo by 20?
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also didn't the Knicks have the former defensive player of the year AND the current 6th man of the year? :D
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Yeah, because Paul George didn't hit a miracle three with no time left and then get a ghost foul call even Paul George himself would say he didn't deserve. Yeah...should be 2-0 Pacers lol.
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Yeah, because Paul George didn't hit a miracle three with no time left and then get a ghost foul call even Paul George himself would say he didn't deserve. Yeah...should be 2-0 Pacers lol.
well, with the right coaching down the stretch, yes, pacers should be 2-0...
roy hibbert, way 2 show em whats good 8)
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last year the Pacers lead 2-1 over the Heat
we all remember what happened...except for Elior who blocked last May and June out of his memory banks
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Points
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. Tony Parker-SAS 285
4. LeBron James-MIA 282
5. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
6. Paul George-IND 278
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 248
8. Mike Conley-MEM 246
9. Marc Gasol-MEM 244
10. Tim Duncan-SAS 234
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i'm not too concerned. Sports is all about $$$ putting asses in seats, more eye balls on the tv. The NBA will do everything possible to get that sexy Heat Vs Spurs big 3 vs big 3 finals matchup. Just look at D wade who should've gotten suspended for throwing that elbow ala JR Smith, yet he's getting the star treatment and the league is looking the other way.
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The NBA will do everything possible to get that sexy Heat Vs Spurs big 3 vs big 3 finals matchup.
at least u admit it...respectable heat fan.
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sure and don't act like you haven't seen stars or teams laced with stars, get star treatments before lol
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sure and don't act like you haven't seen stars or teams laced with stars, get star treatments before lol
yea, but me and u both know LeBron is practically the son of david stern and the Heat are now the team for the NBA to push. u should feel lucky.
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It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
Man, hate is strong with this one.
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The NBA will do everything possible to get that sexy Heat Vs Spurs big 3 vs big 3 finals matchup.
at least u admit it...respectable heat fan.
lakers-kings anyone?
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It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
Man, hate is strong with this one.
LOL@this closet heat fan. control urself, holmes
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The NBA will do everything possible to get that sexy Heat Vs Spurs big 3 vs big 3 finals matchup.
at least u admit it...respectable heat fan.
lakers-kings anyone?
games reffed against both teams in that series
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Refs did anything in their power that Lakers made playoffs this year. Again, shit happens all the time.
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It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
Man, hate is strong with this one.
LOL@this closet heat fan. control urself, holmes
Just want to know who you want to win between the Heat and the Spurs?
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Refs did anything in their power that Lakers made playoffs this year. Again, shit happens all the time.
i see what u sayin, but please dont compare how lebron is reffed to how kobe is reffed, my dude
It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
Man, hate is strong with this one.
LOL@this closet heat fan. control urself, holmes
Just want to know who you want to win between the Heat and the Spurs?
indiana
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indiana has a worse chance at winning the NBA title than the Astros do of the world series
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Pacers sure look great tonight lolz
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talk about a beat down
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Lebron is a +20 so far
Wade is a +9
Paul George is -17
Bosh is -2 but he's only played like 20 minutes obviously
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Refs did anything in their power that Lakers made playoffs this year. Again, shit happens all the time.
i see what u sayin, but please dont compare how lebron is reffed to how kobe is reffed, my dude
It happens. The difference is, that Lebron is now actually putting himself into situations where he can either a)be the hero or b) fuck up like he did today. And it's a major difference between Lebron from 2 seasons ago, where he was nowhere to be found in clutch moments.
Indiana was great today, this is gonna be an interesting series.
Realistically, they should be down 0-2 right now and what I been saying wouldn't have been that off-the-wall afterall, would it?
Man, hate is strong with this one.
LOL@this closet heat fan. control urself, holmes
Just want to know who you want to win between the Heat and the Spurs?
indiana
Well, you might be the only one who thinks they'll win. But I wouldn't bet against them next year. Good chance either Chicago or Indiana comes out east. I think Wade declines more next year and the Heat will not three peat. With that said, they will win this year and I'd rather them win than the Spurs. I've already heard some Duncan>Kobe argument and that is just crazy.
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the Miami Heat are the only team ever to win 5 straight road games by double digits.
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the Miami Heat are the only team ever to win 5 straight road games by double digits.
No question, the Heat are that damn good this year.
But it's almost next to impossible to win after going to the NBA Finals 3 years in a row. The 2002-2003 Lakers were the same squad as the 2001-2002 Lakers, but they ran out of gas. The 2010-2011 Lakers were actually better than the 2009-2010 Lakers, but they ran out of gas against the Mavs. To go to the NBA Finals 3 years in a row is very, very hard. The last team to go to the finals 4 years in a row was the Showtime Lakers. I'm not even talking about winning, I'm talking about just getting there 4 times in a row. Right now Wade is looking like a broken down car, LeBron has been surprisingly injury free and Chris Bosh next year hits the 30 mark. Let's not forget Shane Battier and Chris Anderson will be 35 next year and both Mario Chalmers and LeBron James are still in their primes. So you have a core of Bosh, James and Chalmers for next year and very tired legs of Anderson, Battier and Wade. If watching the NBA has taught me anything, it's that the Heat will not make it to the NBA Finals next year.
With that said, I really hope they destroy the Spurs. One thing not on Duncan's resume, losing in the NBA Finals. I want to see it. He's getting to close to Kobe for my comfort.
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Lol @ thinking the NBA's dream Finals match-up would ever include Pop's Spurs.
Rated the most boring team to watch in the NBA. Yeah, that'll attract the viewers.
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Against the Heat though, that will draw. People still want to see the Heat lose and people love the mild manner act of the Spurs, even if they hate watching the Spurs play.
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Lol @ thinking the NBA's dream Finals match-up would ever include Pop's Spurs.
Rated the most boring team to watch in the NBA. Yeah, that'll attract the viewers.
heat-spurs will draw much more than any of the potential match-ups....spurs last run at a title, big three vs big three. old-man game vs fast-break team, tim duncan's chance at tying kobe, lebron's revenge for 2007. this match-up at least has decent storylines.
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Points
1. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
3. LeBron James-MIA 304
4. Paul George-IND 291
5. Tony Parker-SAS 285
6. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
7. Zach Randolph-MEM 248
8. David West-IND 246
Mike Conley-MEM 246
10. Marc Gasol-MEM 244
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game 4 tonight 8)
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I'm smelling some fists flying tonight.
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I'm smelling some fists flying tonight.
you must be smelling Elano's anus by mistake #ohsnap
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Can't believe the officials missed that call with the shot clock. 11-2 run since, capped by a Bron 3 ball. Gonna be a good ass finish
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That screaming girl behind the announcers needs to shut up
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That screaming girl behind the announcers needs to shut up
Haha yep fucking annoying.
Lebron fouled out! Pacers win likely. What a great series
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refs clearly wanted to extend this series...lmao @ some of these calls :D
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refs clearly wanted to extend this series...lmao @ some of these calls :D
yea...like the tyler handborough shot that was waived cuz of a phatom shot clock violation lol...we all know miami is getting ALL the calls in the next one, so what u even bitchin for?
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game 5 tmrw night
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They'll win the next two.
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pacers putting up a nice fight
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and Heat now lead 3-2
James leads game 5 with 30 points
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
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A man among boys.
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
lebron passed them in less playoff games
wilt: 160
baylor: 134
lebron: 129
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
Cmon bruh.
Not that big of a deal? Really?
Look, i think the decision was a really really terrible way to do what he did. i think lebron flops a lot. but cmon dude is an alltime great and on fire for the last few yrs, and this stat is indicative of that fact.
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
lebron passed them in less playoff games
wilt: 160
baylor: 134
lebron: 129
Well I'll be. Funny, Chamberlain was a regular season beast, but I did not know he SUCKED in the playoffs.
As for Baylor, after 6 years he had that knee surgery and didn't do what he could. Never knew Jerry West was such a beast in the playoffs, wow!
Still, from what I saw, Heat sucked yesterday and LeBron carried that team.
This year, Heat win because LeBron is too good, next year the Heat wouldn't make it to the Finals because the Heat are breaking down.
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Great series so far. But yeah Heat definitely aren't the same as they were last year, Lebron is carrying them to the finals. Unless they make some major roster moves, I don't see them winning next year. We'll see.
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Great series so far. But yeah Heat definitely aren't the same as they were last year, Lebron is carrying them to the finals. Unless they make some major roster moves, I don't see them winning next year. We'll see.
But this is why 3 peating is so hard. Remember the Heat have been in the Finals 2 years in a row (even though they lost the first year). Like Phil Jackson's last year, the Lakers were looking to go 4 years in a row, and they couldn't make it. This year the Heat are showing all the miles they've gained the last 3 seasons and I don't see them making it next year. With LeBron, something's got to give, Wade is breaking down, Bosh isn't looking so hot Birdman and Battier are both really old and really, besides LeBron, only Chalmers is in his prime. It's hard going to the finals 3 years in a row, next year the Heat will find out why no team since the Showtime Lakers have been to the Finals 4 years in a row.
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anyone else pissed that the NBA finals won't start until Thursday? so if Miami wins Saturday then we have sunday to thursday night before we get more NBA
the old guys on the Spurs and D-wade are both gonna enjoy that layoff though
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
lebron passed them in less playoff games
wilt: 160
baylor: 134
lebron: 129
Well I'll be. Funny, Chamberlain was a regular season beast, but I did not know he SUCKED in the playoffs.
As for Baylor, after 6 years he had that knee surgery and didn't do what he could. Never knew Jerry West was such a beast in the playoffs, wow!
Still, from what I saw, Heat sucked yesterday and LeBron carried that team.
This year, Heat win because LeBron is too good, next year the Heat wouldn't make it to the Finals because the Heat are breaking down.
lol@wilt sucking in the playoffs......this guy averaged 23 points and 25 rebounds in post-season games, and most those games came when he was out his prime. smfh, how many other players have averaged 20-20+ in the playoffs for their entire career.
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2013 Playoff Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 358
2. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
3. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
4. Paul George-IND 330
5. Tony Parker-SAS 322
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 281
Stephen Curry-GSW 281
8. David West-IND 277
9. Zach Randolph-MEM 261
10. Marc Gasol-MEM 258
King James takes his thrown at the #1 spot
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
lebron passed them in less playoff games
wilt: 160
baylor: 134
lebron: 129
Well I'll be. Funny, Chamberlain was a regular season beast, but I did not know he SUCKED in the playoffs.
As for Baylor, after 6 years he had that knee surgery and didn't do what he could. Never knew Jerry West was such a beast in the playoffs, wow!
Still, from what I saw, Heat sucked yesterday and LeBron carried that team.
This year, Heat win because LeBron is too good, next year the Heat wouldn't make it to the Finals because the Heat are breaking down.
lol@wilt sucking in the playoffs......this guy averaged 23 points and 25 rebounds in post-season games, and most those games came when he was out his prime. smfh, how many other players have averaged 20-20+ in the playoffs for their entire career.
Compared to averaging 30-50ppg though, he dropped off every year. Players like Jordan or Kobe's averages improved in the playoffs. Not saying he sucked, but he was not as productive in the post season as the regular season. Of course not as productive is relative, he went from 50ppg one year, to 35ppg, or 34.7ppg to 29.3ppg. Rebounding went up and assist were about the same. But at the end of the day, points took a drop. Might be free throws, it looks like free throws went down in the regular season, without watching film other than the 1969 Finals, might be more fouls, or the fact that he spent most of his time in the east and had to play Bill Russell more. Not sure.
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the year Wilt averaged 50 PPG in the regular season he played 12 playoff games and averaged 35
that is a significant drop off and if anyone tries to argue otherwise they are wrong. Shows what playing against Bill Russell can do to you.
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2013 Playoff Points Per Game
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 30.8
2. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 28.8
3. James Harden-HOU 26.3
4. LeBron James-MIA 25.6
5. Stephen Curry-GSW 23.4
6. Tony Parker-SAS 23.0
7. Chris Paul-LAC 22.8
8. Brook Lopez-BRK 22.3
9. Ty Lawson-DEN 21.3
10. Deron Williams-BRK 20.6
where's D-wade and Chris Bosh? I thought they were "franchise players" ;D
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also Lebron passed Wilt and Elgin on the all time playoff scoring list today
Not that big of a deal since the playoffs have more games and rounds than they did then. Still, LeBron had a great game. The rest of the Heat... meh.
lebron passed them in less playoff games
wilt: 160
baylor: 134
lebron: 129
Well I'll be. Funny, Chamberlain was a regular season beast, but I did not know he SUCKED in the playoffs.
As for Baylor, after 6 years he had that knee surgery and didn't do what he could. Never knew Jerry West was such a beast in the playoffs, wow!
Still, from what I saw, Heat sucked yesterday and LeBron carried that team.
This year, Heat win because LeBron is too good, next year the Heat wouldn't make it to the Finals because the Heat are breaking down.
lol@wilt sucking in the playoffs......this guy averaged 23 points and 25 rebounds in post-season games, and most those games came when he was out his prime. smfh, how many other players have averaged 20-20+ in the playoffs for their entire career.
Compared to averaging 30-50ppg though, he dropped off every year. Players like Jordan or Kobe's averages improved in the playoffs. Not saying he sucked, but he was not as productive in the post season as the regular season. Of course not as productive is relative, he went from 50ppg one year, to 35ppg, or 34.7ppg to 29.3ppg. Rebounding went up and assist were about the same. But at the end of the day, points took a drop. Might be free throws, it looks like free throws went down in the regular season, without watching film other than the 1969 Finals, might be more fouls, or the fact that he spent most of his time in the east and had to play Bill Russell more. Not sure.
competition used to tighten drastically in the playoffs back in those days. to say he sucked in the playoffs is still insane, tho
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Sucked was not the best word, but I meant it as a relative comparison. Most great player's production went up in the playoffs, including Jerry West who played in that era. Wilt though had many series against the Celtics and had to get past Russell. Going against Russell would hurt Chamberlain in the long run.
I wish Baylor had modern sports medicine in his era. Baylor only had 6-8 really prime years. Once knee injuries hit, he was never the same. Baylor was the man, and we never saw what he could have done back then. Imagine if Baylor could have had the knee regeneration treatment that Kobe had, instead of surgery that actually removed part of his knee cap. LeBron has already had more prime years than Baylor, so passing Baylor doesn't surprise me as much.
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yeah nobody here is trying to make it sound like Wilt was putting up Tyson Chandler numbers in the playoffs
but compared to his 50 PPG regular season average, only putting up only 35 a game in 12 playoff games is highly disappointing. i mean that's less than 75% of his points in the playoffs aka when shit really matters. Again I am not saying that scoring 35 a game is weak in any way of course...just comparing 35 in the playoffs to scoring 50 in the reg season. 15 PPG is a huge dropoff.
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so who else besides me thinks that both Bosh and Lebron leave Miami after next year??
i predict Lebron goes to the Knicks to play with Melo (just as Amare's huge contract expires)
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Bosh follows him
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yeah nobody here is trying to make it sound like Wilt was putting up Tyson Chandler numbers in the playoffs
but compared to his 50 PPG regular season average, only putting up only 35 a game in 12 playoff games is highly disappointing. i mean that's less than 75% of his points in the playoffs aka when shit really matters. Again I am not saying that scoring 35 a game is weak in any way of course...just comparing 35 in the playoffs to scoring 50 in the reg season. 15 PPG is a huge dropoff.
I agree with you.
so who else besides me thinks that both Bosh and Lebron leave Miami after next year??
i predict Lebron goes to the Knicks to play with Melo (just as Amare's huge contract expires)
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Bosh follows him
Not sure if that's going to happen. I can see LeBron leaving, Miami will be a sinking ship at the end of next year. But then again he already has loyalty issues with the fans. I think Bosh leaves for sure though.
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Bron back to Cleveland.
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Bron back to Cleveland.
no chance in hell
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he's going to vancouver lol people leave places like cleveland to go to miami.
I dont see him leaving- gets a state tax break in FL. Instead players are going to flock to go to miami and join up. They understand he extends careers and one of the most unselfish stars this leagues ever seen, in a me me all about me sport.
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game 6 tonight ya'll
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he's going to vancouver lol people leave places like cleveland to go to miami.
I dont see him leaving- gets a state tax break in FL. Instead players are going to flock to go to miami and join up. They understand he extends careers and one of the most unselfish stars this leagues ever seen, in a me me all about me sport.
but Lebron wants to win rings...why save extra money and play for a team with aging role players?
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almost game time yall
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Bron killin it.
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Bron killin it.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=301060.0
8)
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Lebron will pass Magic Johnson in playoff scoring by the end of the playoffs 8)
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Lebron with 14, 5 and 3 at half time
Heat by 1
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LMAO @ THAT TECH ON LEBRON
this game is scripted
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no surprise
Heat win game 7 on monday
and stern gets his game 7 next week!!
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heat win monday night
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
not when uv read tim donaghy's book...do a lil more research before u make such bold claims. this is david stern and the nba we talkin bout here.
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LMAO @ THAT TECH ON LEBRON
this game is scripted
how was that not a tech? the reffing did not favor indiana in this game at all...it was even. a set-up to game 7, where miami will get the benefit of EVERY whistle. believe that.
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let's hope so
i for one have little to no interest in watching the snoozefest that would be Pacers-Spurs :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
not when uv read tim donaghy's book...do a lil more research before u make such bold claims. this is david stern and the nba we talkin bout here.
Again, I'm well aware of what goes on with the refs. But one game it's one team, other game it's another. And most importantly, one season is one team, next season other. And yes, right now Miami is being favored. But next season, or in 2,3 seasons a new team will be favored. It has happened before, it's happening right now, and it will always happen. It's like a natural cycle of basketball.. Thing is, the teams being favored are always the ones who are usually the best anyways.
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Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 387
2. Paul George-IND 358
3. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
4. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
5. Tony Parker-SAS 322
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 305
7. David West-IND 288
8. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
9. Zach Randolph-MEM 261
10. Marc Gasol-MEM 258
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
not when uv read tim donaghy's book...do a lil more research before u make such bold claims. this is david stern and the nba we talkin bout here.
Again, I'm well aware of what goes on with the refs. But one game it's one team, other game it's another. And most importantly, one season is one team, next season other. And yes, right now Miami is being favored. But next season, or in 2,3 seasons a new team will be favored. It has happened before, it's happening right now, and it will always happen. It's like a natural cycle of basketball.. Thing is, the teams being favored are always the ones who are usually the best anyways.
yea, but look at the big picture, the series will end up favoring miami with some calls made in indiana's favor to throw off the general fan. thats all we pointin out.
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NDIANAPOLIS -- As the final buzzer sounded, these Miami Heat pushed to the brink in the Eastern Conference Finals, LeBron James refused to wait a moment before beginning a determined and deliberate process of elevating his decaying Miami Heat. One by one, they walked out of the failure of Game 6, into the uncertainty of a Game 7, and James stood at mid-court clapping, cheering and cajoling his fading, failing teammates as they passed him on the way into the losing locker room.
"This is where your brotherhood gets strengthened," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said.
Or, perhaps, this is where the team that was supposed to be basketball's greatest modern dynasty lets a championship destiny perish for the second time in three years.
After a 91-77 loss on Saturday night, the Heat march into a Game 7 with an understanding that they're no longer constructed for victory unless LeBron James plays out of his mind, plays out of this world. That happens – happens a lot – but this becomes a slippery slope for the Heat's championship chances when that becomes a necessity for victory.
Three years ago, the Big Three brashly introduced themselves on a rising stage, stepping out of the smoke and into the clear. Now, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh come out of the smoke coughing and wheezing and doubled over, no longer standing shoulder to shoulder with James.
The best player in the world remains relentless in his public support and belief of his co-stars, but he didn't indulge his close friend's delusion of the circumstances of the Heat's playoff demise.
"We have to do a better job of getting opportunities for me and Chris to succeed," Wade said.
Wade missed layup upon layup, leaving eight, maybe 10 points on the floor. Over and over, Wade reached the rim, but couldn't close on the most elementary of finishes. Better job of getting opportunities for him? That's a code for blaming his coach and sparing himself the reality of his responsibilities.
James refused to play the part of an enabler on Saturday night. This is time for self-reliance, time for truth telling. He's lent himself to be a cheerleader, to keep encouraging his teammates, keep telling them that he believes in them. His job isn't to tell lies or manufacture fairy tales.
"I am able to replay a lot of plays in my head," James said, and soon he started to list – one by one – the circumstance of every, easy Wade miss on Saturday night. No video clips needed, James remembered them all.
Above everything, James understands that even his greatness can't overcome Wade and Bosh missing 15 of 19 shots for the game, a formula for failure with the way the Pacers pound the Heat on the boards, pound them inside.
"We can state the obvious: They're both struggling," James said.
Yes, Wade's knee has been troublesome for weeks; Bosh turned an ankle in the series. They're still commanded to find a way, because champions do.
"My rhythm seems off," Bosh said. "It's been like that the whole series."
This is no time for rhythm, only results. The Pacers' David West played with a 103-degree fever, a league source told Yahoo! Sports, and somehow he delivered on a night that started out with him missing seven straight shots, with his coach telling him, "You have nothing tonight" and trying to take him out of the game.
West refused to sit and played his part in pushing the Heat back to Miami for a Game 7. If the Heat are still going to get past Indiana on Monday night, there promises to be a terrific toll taken on them with the San Antonio Spurs awaiting in the NBA Finals. Yes, Boston pushed Miami to a Game 7 a year ago, but Bosh had returned late in the series and Miami gathered momentum as those conference finals unfolded. Now, they gather doubt.
Chris Andersen comes back for Game 7, and history suggests that Wade loves creating these desperate scenarios for himself – only to rise again to the cheers of the adoring South Florida masses. And yet, to watch these Heat now, it is impossible to imagine how they won 27 straight games this season. That feels like a different team, a different season.
This is a grind for Miami, dominance left far, far back in the distance. This is sheer survival now. So yes, James played the part of the cheerleading, optimist leader late Saturday night, professing a belief in his heart when perhaps a different truth about his teammates exists in his eyes.
"Those guys are professionals, as championships, we'll figure it out," James said. "And me as the leader, I'll have to help them figure it out."
Whatever revelations transform Wade and Bosh between games 6 and 7, whatever they draw upon to salvage this series, make no mistake: The burden on LeBron James to carry this roster has never been so extraordinary, the presumption of Heat victory never so uncertain.
Before they left the floor, James had started to prepare these Miami Heat for Monday and a most unmistakable mission: Sparing themselves the embarrassment of a second collapse in three seasons, sparing themselves of history remembering this team not as a dynasty for the ages, but one of sport's great disappointments.
Three years ago, the stage rose, and the smoke spit out and the Big Three emerged to change championship basketball forever in the NBA. Only now, Miami is wobbling the way those old Cleveland Cavaliers used to this time of year, when the genius of LeBron James couldn't overcome the pedestrian play surrounding him. He's far more equipped to handle all that now, but rest assured he never came to Miami believing that he had to pitch perfect games to advance in the Eastern Conference playoffs.
So here comes Game 7 for the Miami Heat now, here comes everything for a franchise fighting to hold off the Indiana Pacers and advancing age, fighting to hold off 2014 free agency and a forever feeling of failure should they let this series – and maybe this entire era – slip away.
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LMAO @ THAT TECH ON LEBRON
this game is scripted
how was that not a tech? the reffing did not favor indiana in this game at all...it was even. a set-up to game 7, where miami will get the benefit of EVERY whistle. believe that.
Speaking from experience.
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
not when uv read tim donaghy's book...do a lil more research before u make such bold claims. this is david stern and the nba we talkin bout here.
Again, I'm well aware of what goes on with the refs. But one game it's one team, other game it's another. And most importantly, one season is one team, next season other. And yes, right now Miami is being favored. But next season, or in 2,3 seasons a new team will be favored. It has happened before, it's happening right now, and it will always happen. It's like a natural cycle of basketball.. Thing is, the teams being favored are always the ones who are usually the best anyways.
yea, but look at the big picture, the series will end up favoring miami with some calls made in indiana's favor to throw off the general fan. thats all we pointin out.
I am looking at the big picture and telling you that this shit happens every season with the team that's supposed to win.
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Lol, NIK will slight LeBron in any way imaginable. That kind of hatred started the holocaust.
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That's why complaining about refs is pointless. The refs were heavily inclined to Indiana BUT it doesn't matter at the end, because Indiana was a better team by far yesterday. Same with Miami 2 nights ago, where they were easily the better them. Mentioning the refs is therefore completely retarded, especially if you've been a long time basketball fan.
not when uv read tim donaghy's book...do a lil more research before u make such bold claims. this is david stern and the nba we talkin bout here.
Again, I'm well aware of what goes on with the refs. But one game it's one team, other game it's another. And most importantly, one season is one team, next season other. And yes, right now Miami is being favored. But next season, or in 2,3 seasons a new team will be favored. It has happened before, it's happening right now, and it will always happen. It's like a natural cycle of basketball.. Thing is, the teams being favored are always the ones who are usually the best anyways.
yea, but look at the big picture, the series will end up favoring miami with some calls made in indiana's favor to throw off the general fan. thats all we pointin out.
I am looking at the big picture and telling you that this shit happens every season with the team that's supposed to win.
we supposed to accept that now and not say anything? i dont get it??
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In a way, yes. It's always gonna happen. There's nothing you can do if your only position of power is writing about it on a message board.
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I thought Miami wouldn't fall apart until next year. I don't see them beating the Spurs if they keep playing like this.
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I thought Miami wouldn't fall apart until next year. I don't see them beating the Spurs if they keep playing like this.
yeah man this is reminding me of the Cleveland years for Lebron.
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I thought Miami wouldn't fall apart until next year. I don't see them beating the Spurs if they keep playing like this.
yeah man this is reminding me of the Cleveland years for Lebron.
See, when the 3 came together, people assumed they'd win forever, but Wade was already showing some signs of aging, and he had hit the 30 year mark. Bosh is not a true inside presents, and Miami had a small window to win many games. At the same time, it's very hard to make it to the NBA Finals year after year after year. That's what makes careers like Jordan's, and Kobe's, and Magic's, and Russell's, and West's and Bird's all so amazing. These guys took their window of opportunity and went to the finals as many times as possible. That's very hard t do, playoff basketball is much more physical and it's a grind.
I am not even really blaming the rest of the Heat, it's just that this team wasn't built to grind this much, and the players brought in to mash in the inside (Anderson, Anthony and Battier) all are 30 and over. Those legs can't take these long runs year after year after year. I thought LeBron was good enough to carry the team, as from everything I saw this man looked like a pure beast. But even if the Heat win game 7, I can't picture this team beating the Spurs. If they are struggling against the Pacers, then the Spurs will take them out in 5-6 games.
Also, if the Heat don't win this year, LeBron can never be put next to Kobe's name again, And lets not get started on Michael Jordan.
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I thought Miami wouldn't fall apart until next year. I don't see them beating the Spurs if they keep playing like this.
yeah man this is reminding me of the Cleveland years for Lebron.
See, when the 3 came together, people assumed they'd win forever, but Wade was already showing some signs of aging, and he had hit the 30 year mark. Bosh is not a true inside presents, and Miami had a small window to win many games. At the same time, it's very hard to make it to the NBA Finals year after year after year. That's what makes careers like Jordan's, and Kobe's, and Magic's, and Russell's, and West's and Bird's all so amazing. These guys took their window of opportunity and went to the finals as many times as possible. That's very hard t do, playoff basketball is much more physical and it's a grind.
I am not even really blaming the rest of the Heat, it's just that this team wasn't built to grind this much, and the players brought in to mash in the inside (Anderson, Anthony and Battier) all are 30 and over. Those legs can't take these long runs year after year after year. I thought LeBron was good enough to carry the team, as from everything I saw this man looked like a pure beast. But even if the Heat win game 7, I can't picture this team beating the Spurs. If they are struggling against the Pacers, then the Spurs will take them out in 5-6 games.
Also, if the Heat don't win this year, LeBron can never be put next to Kobe's name again, And lets not get started on Michael Jordan.
yeah it's easy to forget that Wade played 3 years in college (pretty sure)
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In a way, yes. It's always gonna happen. There's nothing you can do if your only position of power is writing about it on a message board.
okay, but dont expect it not to get mentioned every time it blatantly takes place
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if indiana makes the finals, they will beat the spurs as well
and wade played 2 years of college, not 3
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I think they'll be fine lol.
Fans are so fickle. They win Game 5 easy and everyone crowns them, they lose Game 6 due to consensus agreed poor reffing and now they probably won't even beat Indiana.
Wade's playing like shit, but that's because Indiana is the best defense in the NBA.
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if indiana makes the finals, they will beat the spurs as well
i don't see this happening
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I think they'll be fine lol.
Fans are so fickle. They win Game 5 easy and everyone crowns them, they lose Game 6 due to consensus agreed poor reffing and now they probably won't even beat Indiana.
Wade's playing like shit, but that's because Indiana is the best defense in the NBA.
It's the reality that a team like the Spurs will jump on the Heat like a shark to blood if the Heat struggle that much.
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Well see how you feel if the Heat win by 12 tonight.
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Well see how you feel if the Heat win by 12 tonight.
The Heat can win by 12 points, 15 points, 20 points, it doesn't change the fact that the Spurs are a much more dangerous team than the Pacers. The fact that Indiana pushed the Heat to a game 7 speaks volumes. Great teams win on the road, and the Heat couldn't close it out. I don't care about Heat fans talking about ref calls, Birdman being out, whatever. I fully expect the Heat to win tonight, but if they can't close out the Pacers on the road, then they are big trouble against a Spurs team that will gladly close them out one the road if need-be. Don't get me wrong, LeBron is shining, but D-Wade is fading a year earlier than even I thought he would, Bosh is a non-factor in the post (which is not good because Bosh is suppose to be better than Hibbert) and the only time Miami's offense looks effective is when LeBron is in the post, which takes away he's passing abilities which is part of his strength.
Does Miami win tonight, I still say yes. But the longer this series went the more rested the Spurs are. And all you are asking the old Spurs team to do is win 4 more games. Trust me, the Spurs can win for more games given the right rest. Plus the style of basketball played is down low, gritty basketball, something the Pacers do but not as well as the Spurs. So if the Heat can't keep up with the Pacers, then they are big, big trouble against the Spurs. And you know what, I would rather have the Heat win that the Spurs win.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/4-stats-show-terrible-dwyane-142900538.html
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indiana beat the heat in 3 of their 4 regular season meetings this year...they simply match-up better with miami than any other team. im starting to think, indiana vs spurs in davis stern's final year wouldn't exactly be a bad look...that way, he can point to that when people try to call him out for bein corrupt and manipulating games to get the match-up he wants. the man truly is a genius.
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indiana beat the heat in 3 of their 4 regular season meetings this year...they simply match-up better with miami than any other team. im starting to think, indiana vs spurs in davis stern's final year wouldn't exactly be a bad look...that way, he can point to that when people try to call him out for bein corrupt and manipulating games to get the match-up he wants. the man truly is a genius.
But it's more likely that the Spurs will beat the Pacers than the Heat, and that is a very bad thing for a Laker fan, and Kobe fan.
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i think the Spurs take the Pacers in 5 games
Heat vs Spurs...right now I'm leaning toward Spurs in 6 but it all depends on what the Heat get out of D-wade. We know Lebron is going to bring it but is that enough?
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great game so far
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lebron has 18 at half time...insane
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James and Wade with 42 combined so far
meanwhile Hibbert has 5 fouls
Heat vs Spurs here we come
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STERN IS A BEAST!!! good lookin out!!!!!!!!!! :D
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actually the game has been reffed rather fairly
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i wonder if Indiana is gonna keep West...might be hard
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I predict Miami in 6
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I predict Miami in 6
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Playoff Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 419
2. Paul George-IND 365
3. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
4. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
5. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
6. Tony Parker-SAS 322
7. David West-IND 302
8. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
9. Zach Randolph-MEM 261
10. Marc Gasol-MEM 258
D-wade is only at 212 lmao
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Most points per game all-time in game sevens. 8)
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I predict Miami in 6
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anyone else think Lebron will guard Parker? he didn't back in 07
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I have Heat in 7. There is no way they beat the Spurs easily, but at the end of the day the Spurs are older and I think LeBron pulls the Heat out of trouble again. LeBron has it in him to carry the Heat. But as I have been saying, next year not even LeBron can carry this decaying Heat team.
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anyone else think Lebron will guard Parker? he didn't back in 07
He will late in games like he did with Rose two years ago.
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I have Heat in 7. There is no way they beat the Spurs easily, but at the end of the day the Spurs are older and I think LeBron pulls the Heat out of trouble again. LeBron has it in him to carry the Heat. But as I have been saying, next year not even LeBron can carry this decaying Heat team.
huh? didnt u just say spurs would take em the other day?? cham was right bout the flip floppin shit. mufuckaz are fickle as fuck in this game
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I have Heat in 7. There is no way they beat the Spurs easily, but at the end of the day the Spurs are older and I think LeBron pulls the Heat out of trouble again. LeBron has it in him to carry the Heat. But as I have been saying, next year not even LeBron can carry this decaying Heat team.
huh? didnt u just say spurs would take em the other day?? cham was right bout the flip floppin shit. mufuckaz are fickle as fuck in this game
If they play like they did the whole Indiana series, they wouldn't win. This game didn't change me, I'm just willing to give LEBRON the benefit of the doubt that he can CARRY his team one more time. Plus I really, really, really don't want to hear people start arguing that Duncan is better than Kobe just because both have 5 rings.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1656129-who-has-the-better-career-resume-kobe-bryant-or-tim-duncan
So it's time to give Duncan the credit he deserves, and in an unpretentious fashion that Timmy would undoubtedly approve, here it is: Tim Duncan has had a better career than Kobe Bryant.
And if the Spurs take home yet another title in June, the gap between the two will only widen.
Awe shit, it's already started.
I am praying to the basketball Gods, PLEASE GIVE LEBRON THE STRENGTH TO CARRY THIS CRUMBLING HEAT TEAM!
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130521/sports/705219962/
http://www.ibtimes.com/kobe-bryant-vs-tim-duncan-lakers-or-spurs-star-best-player-michael-jordan-1281127
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I have Heat in 7. There is no way they beat the Spurs easily, but at the end of the day the Spurs are older and I think LeBron pulls the Heat out of trouble again. LeBron has it in him to carry the Heat. But as I have been saying, next year not even LeBron can carry this decaying Heat team.
Even if the Spurs have an older team overall, you don't think that the Heat will be running on fumes? Obviously the series against the Pacers wasn't a walk in the park for them, and last night they really kept pushing despite a significant lead. Considering this will be their third straight appearance in the finals, you figure that they've been playing the maximum amount of games since the end of 2010. That can't be easy on their bodies.
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I have Heat in 7. There is no way they beat the Spurs easily, but at the end of the day the Spurs are older and I think LeBron pulls the Heat out of trouble again. LeBron has it in him to carry the Heat. But as I have been saying, next year not even LeBron can carry this decaying Heat team.
Even if the Spurs have an older team overall, you don't think that the Heat will be running on fumes? Obviously the series against the Pacers wasn't a walk in the park for them, and last night they really kept pushing despite a significant lead. Considering this will be their third straight appearance in the finals, you figure that they've been playing the maximum amount of games since the end of 2010. That can't be easy on their bodies.
It's like I'm reading everything I've posted for the last week all in a paragraph... LOL
I am saying LeBron will carry this crumbling team. He has to. Wade is done, Bosh is done, the whole team is done. And if you read my previous post, I also said that I don't think the Heat will even make the finals next year. Either Indiana or Chicago will go. But until then, I still think the Heat LeBron will do what it takes to win this series.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
really?
so Robert Horry having more rings than MJ makes him a better player too huh? 7>6 right?
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
really?
so Robert Horry having more rings than MJ makes him a better player too huh? 7>6 right?
Big difference. Kobe was a main player my troll friend. And you know that's the difference. But Horry might be one of, if not the greatest role player ever, and that has to count for something.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
really?
so Robert Horry having more rings than MJ makes him a better player too huh? 7>6 right?
hack, we know ur a troll, but sometimes we wanna have serious discussion in here dawgy
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
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LeBron ain't a threat. He's already won.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
really?
so Robert Horry having more rings than MJ makes him a better player too huh? 7>6 right?
hack, we know ur a troll, but sometimes we wanna have serious discussion in here dawgy
the guy who leaves Lebron James off his first 3 all-NBA teams has the gaul to call someone else here a troll? that is hilarious.
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of course tim duncan has had a better career than kobe
tim duncan makes the playoffs every year and has more finals MVP's despite playing in less finals
See, and trolls will love this argument.
5>4 wins every time.
really?
so Robert Horry having more rings than MJ makes him a better player too huh? 7>6 right?
hack, we know ur a troll, but sometimes we wanna have serious discussion in here dawgy
the guy who leaves Lebron James off his first 3 all-NBA teams has the gaul to call someone else here a troll? that is hilarious.
it's called counter-trolling, corntrollio
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so what do you call pretending T-mac and Carmelo are better than Lebron? :D
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
duncan can win 4 more titles, and he still wouldnt be a threat...those spur teams were always built and ran to perfection. still, no one in their right mind puts duncan and kobe in the same stratosphere. lebron, on the other hand, already has people sayin he's on the way to bein the GOAT, sayin he has already surpassed kobe (lmao), and alla that other shit. u'll be hard pressed to find a room fulla' people who will ever be like "yea, duncan is just better than kobe, prime for prime"...and when was the last time u heard duncan put in GOAT discussions? we've all seen lebron and kobe put there, but duncan? lmao...it'd have to be a room fulla brain-dead spur fans ala tone or kobe hating trolls ala hack...but realistically, if lebron wins this year, he's on pace for a threepeat. if he leads miami to a threepeat, he will universally be recognized as better than kobe, and maybe even the GOAT...will it be true? of course not, but thats what u will hear out most peoples mouths. the debate is kobe-lebron, my friend. maybe on obscure spur forums, it might be kobe vs duncan (lol)...but in real life, it really is not.
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so what do you call pretending T-mac and Carmelo are better than Lebron? :D
they were better at that time...
what do u call havin 4 different favorite nba team in the span of 1/3 of a life-time?
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so what do you call pretending T-mac and Carmelo are better than Lebron? :D
they were better at that time...
oh shut the fuck up, Lebron been shitting on both since he joined the NBA
LMAO 10x
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
duncan can win 4 more titles, and he still wouldnt be a threat...those spur teams were always built and ran to perfection. still, no one in their right mind puts duncan and kobe in the same stratosphere. lebron, on the other hand, already has people sayin he's on the way to bein the GOAT, sayin he has already surpassed kobe (lmao), and alla that other shit. u'll be hard pressed to find a room fulla' people who will ever be like "yea, duncan is just better than kobe, prime for prime"...and when was the last time u heard duncan put in GOAT discussions? we've all seen lebron and kobe put there, but duncan? lmao...it'd have to be a room fulla brain-dead spur fans ala tone or kobe hating trolls ala hack...but realistically, if lebron wins this year, he's on pace for a threepeat. if he leads miami to a threepeat, he will universally be recognized as better than kobe, and maybe even the GOAT...will it be true? of course not, but thats what u will hear out most peoples mouths. the debate is kobe-lebron, my friend. maybe on obscure spur forums, it might be kobe vs duncan (lol)...but in real life, it really is not.
Odds of the Heat going to the NBA Finals next year, after 3 straight years going, is slim to none. This team is breaking down, old and LeBron can't carry them a whole other season and another playoff run. Not even Michael Jordan could get to the NBA Finals with this Heat team next year. Unless Pat Riley makes some unpopular moves, the Heat wouldn't make it past the Bulls or Pacers next year.
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wishful thinking ^
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so what do you call pretending T-mac and Carmelo are better than Lebron? :D
they were better at that time...
oh shut the fuck up, Lebron been shitting on both since he joined the NBA
LMAO 10x
t-mac coulda easily been better had he sustained his health throughout his career, and melo is better on offense, but he's too one-dimensional...when i made that comment, lebron james was also known as a terrible defender, though. dont act as if he didnt drastically imrpove that aspect of his game, while the others stayed the same or, in t-mac's case, completely subsided. but u know whats hilarous? that i know ur outa shit to say every time u bring that up, because u resort to talkin about some shit that was said in 2006... trollin or not, step ur game up, hack. u my boy, i dont like 2 see u go out like that.
but answer my question.. what do u call having 4 favorite teams in the span of 1/3 of an average life??
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
duncan can win 4 more titles, and he still wouldnt be a threat...those spur teams were always built and ran to perfection. still, no one in their right mind puts duncan and kobe in the same stratosphere. lebron, on the other hand, already has people sayin he's on the way to bein the GOAT, sayin he has already surpassed kobe (lmao), and alla that other shit. u'll be hard pressed to find a room fulla' people who will ever be like "yea, duncan is just better than kobe, prime for prime"...and when was the last time u heard duncan put in GOAT discussions? we've all seen lebron and kobe put there, but duncan? lmao...it'd have to be a room fulla brain-dead spur fans ala tone or kobe hating trolls ala hack...but realistically, if lebron wins this year, he's on pace for a threepeat. if he leads miami to a threepeat, he will universally be recognized as better than kobe, and maybe even the GOAT...will it be true? of course not, but thats what u will hear out most peoples mouths. the debate is kobe-lebron, my friend. maybe on obscure spur forums, it might be kobe vs duncan (lol)...but in real life, it really is not.
Odds of the Heat going to the NBA Finals next year, after 3 straight years going, is slim to none. This team is breaking down, old and LeBron can't carry them a whole other season and another playoff run. Not even Michael Jordan could get to the NBA Finals with this Heat team next year. Unless Pat Riley makes some unpopular moves, the Heat wouldn't make it past the Bulls or Pacers next year.
dont be dumb
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i've never rooted for 4 teams and T-mac never even took his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs...LEbron carried a team of scrubs to the finals in 07. and Melo doesn't play defense and Lebron is the league's best defender. cases closed son
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i've never rooted for 4 teams and T-mac never even took his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs...LEbron carried a team of scrubs to the finals in 07. and Melo doesn't play defense and Lebron is the league's best defender. cases closed son
are u retarded? u just treated that like i said melo is better now....please, dawg, do me a favor and make me feel like im debating with someone who can keep up in a debate. once again, i know lebron is a much better defender now, but when i made the comment, lebron was also known as a terrible defender. as for t-mac, he never had a prime season where he was in good health with a contending team built around him...a prime t-mac on this heat squad instead of lebron would also be lookin pretty nice.
i guess u had 3 favorite teams was it? well, the question still stands...just change 4 to 3.
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Melo has NEVER been better than Lebron
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
duncan can win 4 more titles, and he still wouldnt be a threat...those spur teams were always built and ran to perfection. still, no one in their right mind puts duncan and kobe in the same stratosphere. lebron, on the other hand, already has people sayin he's on the way to bein the GOAT, sayin he has already surpassed kobe (lmao), and alla that other shit. u'll be hard pressed to find a room fulla' people who will ever be like "yea, duncan is just better than kobe, prime for prime"...and when was the last time u heard duncan put in GOAT discussions? we've all seen lebron and kobe put there, but duncan? lmao...it'd have to be a room fulla brain-dead spur fans ala tone or kobe hating trolls ala hack...but realistically, if lebron wins this year, he's on pace for a threepeat. if he leads miami to a threepeat, he will universally be recognized as better than kobe, and maybe even the GOAT...will it be true? of course not, but thats what u will hear out most peoples mouths. the debate is kobe-lebron, my friend. maybe on obscure spur forums, it might be kobe vs duncan (lol)...but in real life, it really is not.
Odds of the Heat going to the NBA Finals next year, after 3 straight years going, is slim to none. This team is breaking down, old and LeBron can't carry them a whole other season and another playoff run. Not even Michael Jordan could get to the NBA Finals with this Heat team next year. Unless Pat Riley makes some unpopular moves, the Heat wouldn't make it past the Bulls or Pacers next year.
dont be dumb
So you are admitting the greatness of LeBron, then give the man his due.
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mdogg...u realize that lebron is a much bigger threat to kobe's legacy than duncan, right? who gives a fuck about duncan. sure, u'll find the random article from a kobe-hater here and there proclaiming duncan had a better career, but no one truly thinks that. everyone knows kobe is easily better than duncan, and u wont find mufuckaz in the streets discussin that shit. will it bother me if the spurs get that 5th title? sure...no doubt. i hate the spurs.... but if lebron wins this year, that means he has a shot at a threepeat. thats all we fuckin need, is lebron threepeating so that all his nutriders have more ammo for the lebron>kobe myth....thats what the streets is talkin, son. lebron vs kobe. not duncan vs kobe LOL...get ya head out ya ass and realize the realization of reality.
that said, i can never root for the heat or the spurs...i hate them equally and this finals is quite depressing to be honest. laker fans are in a lose-lose situation.
HAHAHAHA
The future has LeBron carry an aging, then rebuilding Heat team to 4 or 5 titles. But Kobe proved himself better than LeBron in the late 2000's when both where in their primes. Duncan and the Spurs had wars with the Lakers and Kobe, which puts them on more equal footing.
Of course the streets is buzzing for LeBron, because he's the hottest thing right now. But he doesn't have the game to go deep into his 30's, he isn't changing his game and he doesn't have the team to 3 peat next year.
Let's face right here, right now. Many things can happen, injury, decaying team, anything to LeBron. But Duncan is a direct threat right now. Right here, right now, Duncan is more dangerous than LeBron.
duncan can win 4 more titles, and he still wouldnt be a threat...those spur teams were always built and ran to perfection. still, no one in their right mind puts duncan and kobe in the same stratosphere. lebron, on the other hand, already has people sayin he's on the way to bein the GOAT, sayin he has already surpassed kobe (lmao), and alla that other shit. u'll be hard pressed to find a room fulla' people who will ever be like "yea, duncan is just better than kobe, prime for prime"...and when was the last time u heard duncan put in GOAT discussions? we've all seen lebron and kobe put there, but duncan? lmao...it'd have to be a room fulla brain-dead spur fans ala tone or kobe hating trolls ala hack...but realistically, if lebron wins this year, he's on pace for a threepeat. if he leads miami to a threepeat, he will universally be recognized as better than kobe, and maybe even the GOAT...will it be true? of course not, but thats what u will hear out most peoples mouths. the debate is kobe-lebron, my friend. maybe on obscure spur forums, it might be kobe vs duncan (lol)...but in real life, it really is not.
Odds of the Heat going to the NBA Finals next year, after 3 straight years going, is slim to none. This team is breaking down, old and LeBron can't carry them a whole other season and another playoff run. Not even Michael Jordan could get to the NBA Finals with this Heat team next year. Unless Pat Riley makes some unpopular moves, the Heat wouldn't make it past the Bulls or Pacers next year.
dont be dumb
So you are admitting the greatness of LeBron, then give the man his due.
this team that is "breaking down" is a beastly team, even without lebron.....they will find ways to keep a nice core around, and as long as lebron is in miami, they will build a contender around him...am i admitting he's an excellent player? of course. is him winning this year and aiming at a threepeat gunna be a major threat to kobe's legacy? you can bet ya bottom dollar. the kobe vs lebron debate is much more prominent than any kobe vs duncan debate, and u know it. basically, we're fucked either way.
obviously, kobe will always be better...but im talking about general consensus. many, MANY people will have lebron above kobe if he wins this year and has a legit shot at a threepeat.....but the general consensus will NEVER be duncan>kobe...EVER
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Melo has NEVER been better than Lebron
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is that why carmelo anthony got 40 first place votes for rookie of the year? to act like there was never a melo vs. lebron debate is pretty dumb, my boy. nowadays, no, there isn't...but there was, and if u dont know, now ya know.
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I can see Pat making a big time move this offseason.
But when MDogg says "the Heat are breaking down", it's really just Wade. I still don't know why everyone ignores that the Pacers were a bigger, more physical, absurd defensive unit. Prior to the series the Heat won like 47 of 52 or something ABSURD like that...they weren't "broken down" then. Shane and Ray can still ball, they're just too weak and Indiana closes out on three like no one's business. Chalmers and Cole are still kids, Birdman is shooting 86% from the field (only Bron can make Chris fuckin' Andersen look like an all-star) and Haslem had two huge games.
Wade's knee is breaking down, but that's about it. The defense of Indy shut down some role players, but in reality Bron beat them without Wade or Bosh. All he needs is himself, Wade or Bosh to contribute for like a quarter and one of those role players step up like Haslem in game three and five and Ray last night and he'll never lose.
So I don't really see them fading into the abyss even if the unit stays the same.
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Melo has NEVER been better than Lebron
(http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/lebron-laughing-thumb-400xauto-13499.jpg)
is that why carmelo anthony got 40 first place votes for rookie of the year? to act like there was never a melo vs. lebron debate is pretty dumb, my boy. nowadays, no, there isn't...but there was, and if u dont know, now ya know.
it was a fake ESPN rivalry that never really was
78 votes to 40 votes is a huge difference anyways man and Lebron just kept getting better. I bet if Lebron skipped his last year of high school and went to Duke he'd have taken away Sewer-Cuse's only championship :D
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Battier and Birdman are both over 35, Bosh is shrinking and it will be Super Mario and The Chosen One vs. the World. I'm like Mark Jackson on this one, I'm calling this and I will be vindicated.
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Chris fuckin' Andersen look like an all-star
lmfao
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Shane Battier's no longer in his prime but he'd be a key asset on every team. The guy flat out knows how to play ball, his bball iq is off the charts and knows how to defend and get his ass in the corner for 3's. Heat match up better with the spurs its going to be an open court style of play with no 7'2 270lbs roy hibbert around to detour shots at the rim.
keep in mind were seeing a birdman who hasn't been in the league in a couple of years cuz he got banned. He looks like a fresh spring chicken out there without those 2 nba seasons on his knees
If we win, we're not making any changes at all its only when we lose is when all the dynasty talk stops and we suddenly want to amnesty wade.
d wade to miami is like kobe to L.a.-he's a fan favorite =$$$$$ and lebrons bff he's not going anywhere. I wouldnt worry too much about miami, they have a bright future as long as lebron james is there people-he makes players like boobie gibson better
as long as they are letting players like old ass tim duncan,kobe bryant, and d wade at halftime take ped's teams are gonna be in good shape.
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23 hours to go
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75 minutes to go!
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IT'S GAME TIME BITCHES
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what a great game
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Give King number two.
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LEBRON JUST PASSED THE BEST LAKER EVER, MAGIC JOHNSON, IN NBA PLAYOFF SCORING HISTORY 8)
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elior must be kicking himself right now
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IN MOST PLAYOFF REBOUNDS EVER
DESPITE KOBE PLAYING WELL OVER 50 MORE PLAYOFF GAMES
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what a crazy ass game
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DUNCAN IS ONE GAME CLOSER TO TYING KOBE IN RINGS
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This is a win win for Hack, either way he gets to troll Kobe fans.
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Lol, Wade missing layups, Bosh shooting threes.
Not concerned. Not worried.
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This is a win win for Hack, either way he gets to troll Kobe fans.
8)
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yall realize that if lebron loses, he'll be 1-3 in the Finals, right? his legacy is practically on the line lmao
that said, i cant root for spurs...but if they do win, lets hope parker gets finals mvp.
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yall realize that if lebron loses, he'll be 1-3 in the Finals, right? his legacy is practically on the line lmao
that said, i cant root for spurs...but if they do win, lets hop parker gets finals mvp.
who cares? It's help secure Tim Duncan as a better player than Rapist Bryant. Notice how Raper Kobe would be down to TD in the MVP and Finals MVP columns? :D
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yall realize that if lebron loses, he'll be 1-3 in the Finals, right? his legacy is practically on the line lmao
that said, i cant root for spurs...but if they do win, lets hop parker gets finals mvp.
who cares? It's help secure Tim Duncan as a better player than Rapist Bryant. Notice how Raper Kobe would be down to TD in the MVP and Finals MVP columns? :D
duncan will never be considered better than kobe....ever. even if spurs win 3 more titles, duncan will stll be a secondary player. it aint even about accolades, duncan has always had a consistent system around him, but he will NEVER be ranked higher than kobe as an individual. u can forget about that. the more concerning thing is that spurs will match the lakers title count in the past 15 years.
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I'd prefer TD over Kobe simply because I know he'd never demand trades and instead he'd appreciate his all time star center. and TD is a better team player (but who isnt'? lmao)
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I'd prefer TD over Kobe simply because I know he'd never demand trades and instead he'd appreciate his all time star center. and TD is a better team player (but who isnt'? lmao)
u wouldnt prefer TD, u just sayin that cuz u a jelly kobe hater....no one would demand a trade if they were playin for contenders their entire career lol. in fact, kobe is more loyal to the lakershow than your very own kevin garnett, who demanded a trade and got his wish lmao. good job shittin on ur own hero.
also, kobe is the ultimate competitor and team player, because he demands perfection. look what happened to players like smush parker, chris mihm, kwame brown, jumaine jones, etc when they left kobe.....career down the drain. kobe makes others look better, and he is a league leading assist getter for a shooting guard, so keep tryin, son.
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why would I want Kobe when I could have a guy with twice as many MVP's and move finals MVPs? Duncan > Rapist Bryant
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It is pretty amusing that Duncan has everything on Kobe, but because Kobe is a wing player that "BSPN" promotes because he fills seats, all that gets thrown out the window.
It's actually the perfect hypocrite scenario.
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It is pretty amusing that Duncan has everything on Kobe, but because Kobe is a wing player that "BSPN" promotes because he fills seats, all that gets thrown out the window.
It's actually the perfect hypocrite scenario.
so true
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It's like he throws the truth and reality out of the conversation. None of that matters. He just cares how "a majority of people" see it.
Notice he said, "nobody else thinks that". Regardless right or wrong, he only cares aboutnthe general publics opinion. Son cares so deeply.
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It is pretty amusing that Duncan has everything on Kobe, but because Kobe is a wing player that "BSPN" promotes because he fills seats, all that gets thrown out the window.
It's actually the perfect hypocrite scenario.
so duncan is 3x better than lebron? LOL
the ring count is 3-1 in that match-up.
fall back.
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It's like he throws the truth and reality out of the conversation. None of that matters. He just cares how "a majority of people" see it.
Notice he said, "nobody else thinks that". Regardless right or wrong, he only cares aboutnthe general publics opinion. Son cares so deeply.
well, the reason nobody thinks that is because it's not true, genius. if people did think that, they'd simply be retarded, but no one is that retard to actually believe it....duncan is not even close. he's been irrelevant for the past 4 years, and all of a sudden he's poppin up in kobe discussions? lmao, thats too good...if the spurs win 2 more, is he as good as jordan? that shits just stupid, parker is carrying that team, and u know it. theres only a small list of players who can compare to kobe, and duncan is not one of them.
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I'm not saying anything. I'm just going by the accolades you like to talk about in these comparisons. Just face the facts that Duncan is far more decorated. And Kobe was 81 points way from being irrelevant those few Shaq-less years. And you're going to discredit Timmy because the Spurs GM couldn't steal Pau Gasol for them?
Bottom line, wing players get more credit just for dominating the ball. But as far as efficiency goes, Duncan easy. Accolade-wise too.
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I'm not saying anything. I'm just going by the accolades you like to talk about in these comparisons. Just face the facts that Duncan is far more decorated. And Kobe was 81 points way from being irrelevant those few Shaq-less years. And you're going to discredit Timmy because the Spurs GM couldn't steal Pau Gasol for them?
Bottom line, wing players get more credit just for dominating the ball. But as far as efficiency goes, Duncan easy. Accolade-wise too.
kobe was never irrelevant, he was an mvp candidate for every one of those post-shaq years, and if it wasnt for having to play with a starting line-up that consisted of smush parker, kwame brown and luke walton, he'da won the mvp for each of those seasons. duncan doesnt have nearly as many nba records as kobe, all he has on him is one extra mvp, and we all know the story of kobe and the faulty ass mvp award.
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Lebron passes Kobe in playoff rebounds :D
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Lebron passes Kobe in playoff rebounds :D
amazing feat, considering kobe is a shooting guard has a career average of 5.3 rebounds per game. whats next, bragging that rondo passed kobe in assists? lol smh
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At the end of the day, you already exposed yourself as not caring what the truth is about any of this and just how the general public perceives it and how they recognize Kobe amongst the greats.
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At the end of the day, you already exposed yourself as not caring what the truth is about any of this and just how the general public perceives it and how they recognize Kobe amongst the greats.
not really..i already addressed that part, elton.
like i said, the reason no one recognizes duncan as on the same tier as kobe is because it aint true, not the other way around.
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like i said, the reason no one recognizes duncan as on the same tier as kobe is because it aint true, not the other way around.
No, the reason people underestimate Tim is because he ain't flashy and he's not featured in all those NBA highlight clips even tho hes been consistent as hell thru out all those years - but when you talk about the greatest player of the post-Jordan era, Duncan is def up there in the conversation with Kobe. Right know, Kobe still got the edge tho, but it will be an interesting discussion if the Spurs will win this year.
I got them in 7 over the Heat - so far so good, if they stay healthy, they can pull it off 8)
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like i said, the reason no one recognizes duncan as on the same tier as kobe is because it aint true, not the other way around.
No, the reason people underestimate Tim is because he ain't flashy and he's not featured in all those NBA highlight clips even tho hes been consistent as hell thru out all those years - but when you talk about the greatest player of the post-Jordan era, Duncan is def up there in the conversation with Kobe. Right know, Kobe still got the edge tho, but it will be an interesting discussion if the Spurs will win this year.
I got them in 7 over the Heat - so far so good, if they stay healthy, they can pull it off 8)
Duncan had a great career but lets be real, Kobe has been through way more as a player. He's actually had to face adversity and rise above it time and time again. Duncan really just sat back his entire career with basically the same teammates and the same coach. Kobe's seen new players, new coaches, had to re-build, had to develop new relationships, etc.. Duncan may have won as much but he did not do as much. not even close.
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Lol @ NIK tryna sound reasonable to gain Mietek's vote of Kobe support.
Nigga just realizes what I've been saying that he's outdone Kobe. Kobe just draws crowds, hits off balanced shots, scores 50 on 47 shots and is on every episode of SportsCenter. But Duncan has achieved more. Something you use in all your arguements.
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Lol @ NIK tryna sound reasonable to gain Mietek's vote of Kobe support.
Nigga just realizes what I've been saying that he's outdone Kobe. Kobe just draws crowds, hits off balanced shots, scores 50 on 47 shots and is on every episode of SportsCenter. But Duncan has achieved more. Something you use in all your arguements.
like i said, kobe holds way more nba records than duncan and is a better scorer, defender, better at just about everything other than rebounding. duncan has just had more to fall back on throughout his career, he hasnt had to carry teams like kobe has, he's had all the support he's ever needed...and to top it off he STILL hasn't achieved more. kobe has 5 rings, duncan has 4. at most, he can tie kobe, but to say he's achieved more is pretty retarded.
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if I had to start a team I'd take Duncan because he came into the NBA and contributed right off
Kobe was a bench player for 2 years. I guess that's what skipping college gets you (unless you are a rare freak of nature like Lebron)
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if I had to start a team I'd take Duncan because he came into the NBA and contributed right off
Kobe was a bench player for 2 years. I guess that's what skipping college gets you (unless you are a rare freak of nature like Lebron)
thats the worst reasoning ever...lakers woulda never threepeated if they drafted duncan instead of kobe. he's just lucky to have played with a big three for most of his career and be coached by greg popavich, that is all. not sayin he aint good, but kobe status? please
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Oh, Kobe's a better defender? So Duncan's fourteen all-first defensive teams ain't a thing I guess.
...which is more than Kobe.
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Oh, Kobe's a better defender? So Duncan's fourteen all-first defensive teams ain't a thing I guess.
...which is more than Kobe.
lies again? he has 8...kobe has 9
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14>12
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Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 437
2. Paul George-IND 365
3. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
4. Tony Parker-SAS 343
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
7. David West-IND 302
8. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
9. Tim Duncan-SAS 269
10. George Hill-IND 263
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14>12
9>8
perimeter defenders makin all-defense>bigs makin all-defense...players who score 27-35 ppg makin all defense>players who score 18-23 ppg makin all defense.
kobes a better player and u know it...why u arguin?
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Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 437
2. Paul George-IND 365
3. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
4. Tony Parker-SAS 343
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
7. David West-IND 302
8. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
9. Tim Duncan-SAS 269
10. George Hill-IND 263
Kobe-LAL 0
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Vic the Brick "Heat in 6...when Lebron gets focused and attacks it's all over for the Spurs"
just said that on PMS and Vic the brick is the only bigger Lakers homer than NIK
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Vic the Brick "Heat in 6...when Lebron gets focused and attacks it's all over for the Spurs"
just said that on PMS and Vic the brick is the only bigger Lakers homer than NIK
vic the brick is a G....im sure he hates the spurs just as much as any die-hard laker fan does.
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how did i forget Steve "Hater" Hartman. he's the ultimate Lakers homer.
but unlike Hartman at least VTB is listenable. Loose Cannons sucks now that they kicked VTB off (probably PAt O'Brien wanting more air time to hear himself talk)
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how did i forget Steve "Hater" Hartman. he's the ultimate Lakers homer.
but unlike Hartman at least VTB is listenable. Loose Cannons sucks now that they kicked VTB off (probably PAt O'Brien wanting more air time to hear himself talk)
i stopped listenin to cannons when mychal thompson left for 710 espn. that show was my shit when it was mychal, vic, and hartman
now i listen to mason and ireland.
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how did i forget Steve "Hater" Hartman. he's the ultimate Lakers homer.
but unlike Hartman at least VTB is listenable. Loose Cannons sucks now that they kicked VTB off (probably PAt O'Brien wanting more air time to hear himself talk)
i stopped listenin to cannons when mychal thompson left for 710 espn. that show was my shit when it was mychal, vic, and hartman
now i listen to mason and ireland.
jay mohr sports is the best show on national radio (Ben Maller being a close 2nd). Petros and Money is dope too but they talk too much USC football for a "national" show.
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so i guess game 2 is Sunday at 8pm
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how did i forget Steve "Hater" Hartman. he's the ultimate Lakers homer.
but unlike Hartman at least VTB is listenable. Loose Cannons sucks now that they kicked VTB off (probably PAt O'Brien wanting more air time to hear himself talk)
I agree. I stopped listening when VTB went off. Around that time, MN radio got rid of the national station (we had an ESPN local station, Clear Channel/IHeartRadio/Fox local and then the Fox Sports national with Dan Patrick, Loose Cannons and the rest of the crew) so I use to listen on IHeartRadio, but I just couldn't. VTB was the whole reason I listen to begin with.
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game 2 sunday night
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how did i forget Steve "Hater" Hartman. he's the ultimate Lakers homer.
but unlike Hartman at least VTB is listenable. Loose Cannons sucks now that they kicked VTB off (probably PAt O'Brien wanting more air time to hear himself talk)
Uh you sure about that? If VTB is Vic the Brick, he's a bigger laker homer than hartman. He's 1 of those typical myopian laker fans I hate. But then again maybe things changed cause I haven't listened to sports radio in years. I mainly liked listening to Hacksaw Hamilton. Preferred Loose Cannons when Bill Werndell was on there. Sports radio was mainly cool in the mid 90's. Rome in the afternoon & hacksaw at 4:05.
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I turn on the sports talk radio channels sometimes when im drivin around the city and prolly my favorite show is the Ben maller/tom looney fox sports blitz those dudes dont take shit too seriously and make LA traffic a breeze. Vic the brick could run for mayor for the city of LA, why not? espn la sports talk is unlistenable-they talk about the trajectory of dwight howards sweat towel as he throws it to the trainers with no shame.
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ever hear Jay Mohr Nautica? he's hilarious too
ben maller and tom looney is radio gold as well
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I turn on the sports talk radio channels sometimes when im drivin around the city and prolly my favorite show is the Ben maller/tom looney fox sports blitz those dudes dont take shit too seriously and make LA traffic a breeze. Vic the brick could run for mayor for the city of LA, why not? espn la sports talk is unlistenable-they talk about the trajectory of dwight howards sweat towel as he throws it to the trainers with no shame.
Is it a rule that all ESPN radio must suck. In Minnesota ESPN is full of local know it alls who bash the Lakers, Cowboys and Yankees when they are down.
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I turn on the sports talk radio channels sometimes when im drivin around the city and prolly my favorite show is the Ben maller/tom looney fox sports blitz those dudes dont take shit too seriously and make LA traffic a breeze. Vic the brick could run for mayor for the city of LA, why not? espn la sports talk is unlistenable-they talk about the trajectory of dwight howards sweat towel as he throws it to the trainers with no shame.
Is it a rule that all ESPN radio must suck. In Minnesota ESPN is full of local know it alls who bash the Lakers, Cowboys and Yankees when they are down.
espn radio in LA is dope.
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espn radio everywhere sucks
mike golic is cool and so is freddy coleman
cowherd was decent before he started telling us about how successful he is and how rich his friends are and shit lol
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NIK must be going nuts right now
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What a fucking block!
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i agree, SICK ASS block indeed
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MOST PLAYOFF POINTS IN NBA HISTORY
Rank Player PTS
1. Michael Jordan* 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
3. Kobe Bryant 5640
4. Shaquille O'Neal 5250
5. Karl Malone* 4761
6. Tim Duncan 4502
7. Jerry West* 4457
8. Larry Bird* 3897
9. John Havlicek* 3776
10. Hakeem Olajuwon* 3755
11. LeBron James 3729
i assume LBJ will pass some names like a motherfucker the next 3-4 post seasons! say he averages 400 or 500 a post season...he's gonna be way up there
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MOST PLAYOFF POINTS IN NBA HISTORY
Rank Player PTS
1. Michael Jordan* 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
3. Kobe Bryant 5640
4. Shaquille O'Neal 5250
5. Karl Malone* 4761
6. Tim Duncan 4502
7. Jerry West* 4457
8. Larry Bird* 3897
9. John Havlicek* 3776
10. Hakeem Olajuwon* 3755
11. LeBron James 3729
i assume LBJ will pass some names like a motherfucker the next 3-4 post seasons! say he averages 400 or 500 a post season...he's gonna be way up there
just imagine how much more Jordan would have if he didn't retire so early as a Bull
at least another 1,500+
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Lolllllll. Violation.
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Havlicek was such an O.G.
one of the best ever
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Heat win in 6, remember i said it
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Heatles win
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I hope this is a 7 game series, great basketball so far.
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Did the Spurs just give up at some point? I only caught the first half since I went to that Ink-N-Iron show in Long Beach but one of the tattoo booths was playing it.
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LEBRON SUX, HEAT WIN LOL
SERIOUSLY, THOUGH...EVEN I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW SHITTY HE WAS PLAYING UNTIL HIS TEAMMATES CARRIED HIM TO A LEAD AND THE PRESSURE WAS OFF. I KNOW YALL SEEN THAT :D
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I hope this is a 7 game series, great basketball so far.
I AGREE
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do you not watch the games anymore NIK? Bron was fine...you just have to complain about him no matter what he does
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I wish the Heat would have won in 2011, because Lebron was gone from that series too. Might be good for Laker fans if theat win but Lebron sucks.
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do you not watch the games anymore NIK? Bron was fine...
lmao this is how i know you didnt watch, he was 3/13 at one point and the heat took the lead off some ray allen, mike miller plays. then he makes a few shots when the heat had a 15+ point cushion. if u didnt watch then shut the fuck up.
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lmao of course i watch
you tryna make it sound like Lebron was held below 10 points or something. game 1 LBJ has a triple double and you ripped him ::)
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do you not watch the games anymore NIK? Bron was fine...you just have to complain about him no matter what he does
Bron wasn't himself that's not debatable; however, once they started using him as the screener, he played better on offence.
With Bron's physical tools, he can effect the game in ways without scoring I guess, but this was not a good game for him. I think he will have a GREAT game in the next one
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He underperformed in the first 2 games, nothin more nothin less
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Underperforming 18,18 and 10. Nigga needs a five day ban.
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Underperforming 18,18 and 10. Nigga needs a five day ban.
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(http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/51b53b226bb3f7a14b00000a/this-block-by-lebron-james-is-one-of-the-best-you-will-ever-see.jpg)
I don't think Kobe even has a Finals moment. He hid in Pau's shadow last time he got there and we all know who the bigger man was ten years ago.
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18 points, 18 rebounds and 10 assists...only NIK thinks this is "underpreforming" :D
if Kobe puts up those numbers it's the greatest game ever played ::)
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18 points, 18 rebounds and 10 assists...only NIK thinks this is "underpreforming" :D
if Kobe puts up those numbers it's the greatest game ever played ::)
When ur team relies on u to score and u put up ten points less then ur average, yes, that's underperforming .. If u have trouble understanding that, go have a convo with mdogg brodie
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lmao
18 rebounds doesn't make up for "only" putting up 18 points and 10 dimes?
you sound silly
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
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^^^Was just about to post this. NIK you know damn well Kobe's teammates carried him plenty of times. They actually carried him in game 7 to win the championship! And ain't nothing wrong with that, shit like that happens all the time, afterall, it is a TEAM sport.
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
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It has to happen sometimes. Not saying Kobe wasn't amazing in 2010 Finals, because he was, but that last game was a bit rough.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
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^^^Was just about to post this. NIK you know damn well Kobe's teammates carried him plenty of times. They actually carried him in game 7 to win the championship! And ain't nothing wrong with that, shit like that happens all the time, afterall, it is a TEAM sport.
please dont compare the disappearing act of lebron to kobe......ever
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
thnx for tellin me what i think, basketball enthusiast
lmao
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People always say, are you going to let him drop 40 or are you going to put everything on him and hope his wide open teammates fuck it up? Pop's hoping for an under 40% shooting night from three.
After game one they broke down the defense. Literally four defenders collapse on him once he's inside 10-12 feet.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
thnx for tellin me what i think, basketball enthusiast
lmao
Just going by what you argue about and how you go about arguing. This is what I got from you.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
thnx for tellin me what i think, basketball enthusiast
lmao
Just going by what you argue about and how you go about arguing. This is what I got from you.
the God to honest truth is that you don't have a fraction of my basketball knowledge LOL....but ill let u keep doin you, cuz it helps the forum
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Lmfao.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
thnx for tellin me what i think, basketball enthusiast
lmao
Just going by what you argue about and how you go about arguing. This is what I got from you.
the God to honest truth is that you don't have a fraction of my basketball knowledge LOL....but ill let u keep doin you, cuz it helps the forum
If we were to meet, I could recall stuff in my head in basketball you'd never know exist. Things from little Chick Hearns saying to little moments that the average fan doesn't notice. You only think you are the smartest man in the room. I never claim to be that, but what I claim to be is a fair person who calls things as I see them and not be such a damn homer.
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game 7, Lakers/Celtics
Kobe 23 points, 15 rebounds and 2 assist.
BUT KOBE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE 50 POINTS A GAME, NIK SAYS SO
WHAT A BAD GAME
23 points, 15 REBOUNDS! It was a great game, but not up to Kobe standards. The problem is NIK thinks of basketball as a series of one on one games. That's not the case, but he thinks so.
thnx for tellin me what i think, basketball enthusiast
lmao
Just going by what you argue about and how you go about arguing. This is what I got from you.
the God to honest truth is that you don't have a fraction of my basketball knowledge LOL....but ill let u keep doin you, cuz it helps the forum
If we were to meet, I could recall stuff in my head in basketball you'd never know exist. Things from little Chick Hearns saying to little moments that the average fan doesn't notice. You only think you are the smartest man in the room. I never claim to be that, but what I claim to be is a fair person who calls things as I see them and not be such a damn homer.
lol i grew up on Laker tapes from the 80s, u cant recall anything i dont know existed..trust me. but u do spew a lot og misinformation, which is part of why i came to that conclusion in the first place. how does a real laker fan think bob mcadoo was a star on our team? LOL....it's not that ur not a homer, u simply just a lightweight fan. but u claimin lakers, so i still got love for u.
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I mean, he has that bravado is all areas of life. Son just talks about how he's the greatest at everything. Most knowledgeable NBA man, most knowledgable Hip-Hop fan, best basketball player in LA besides Kobe, fucks the baddest women on the planet, knows more about drugs than you could ever dream of knowing. The list never ends. Son has the most illustrious life ever, but someone spends 86% of it on twelve different forums.
It's all insecurity, man. But sadly, he's the only one in the room who doesn't see that truth. Nigga thinks he's some international superstar because some trolls made him the center of attention a few years back.
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I mean, he has that bravado is all areas of life. Son just talks about how he's the greatest at everything. Most knowledgeable NBA man, most knowledgable Hip-Hop fan, best basketball player in LA besides Kobe, fucks the baddest women on the planet, knows more about drugs than you could ever dream of knowing. The list never ends. Son has the most illustrious life ever, but someone spends 86% of it on twelve different forums.
It's all insecurity, man. But sadly, he's the only one in the room who doesn't see that truth. Nigga thinks he's some international superstar because some trolls made him the center of attention a few years back.
NIK certainly doesn't have any confidence in playing fantasy football this year :D
i mean hell if someone invited me to play fantasy hockey i'd give that shit a shot even though I don't follow the NHL
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I mean, he has that bravado is all areas of life. Son just talks about how he's the greatest at everything. Most knowledgeable NBA man, most knowledgable Hip-Hop fan, best basketball player in LA besides Kobe, fucks the baddest women on the planet, knows more about drugs than you could ever dream of knowing. The list never ends. Son has the most illustrious life ever, but someone spends 86% of it on twelve different forums.
It's all insecurity, man. But sadly, he's the only one in the room who doesn't see that truth. Nigga thinks he's some international superstar because some trolls made him the center of attention a few years back.
But he's never held a job with all those skills.
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I'm surprised he's not an entrepreneur. He's in Hollywood, his mom is a porn star (well connected), more knowledge than Einstien and more talent than Will Smith and Kobe's love child.
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
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I'm surprised he's not an entrepreneur. He's in Hollywood, his mom is a porn star (well connected), more knowledge than Einstien and more talent than Will Smith and Kobe's love child.
He's a Valley kid that smokes too much and has no drive. But I would have assumed he would have started he's own sports site by now. I know plenty of people who'd eat his opinions up.
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his mom is a porn star (well connected),
LOL
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
how is it an opinion? u really dont see the difference between kobe and lebron? i expect idiots like mdogg not to get it, and lebron fanatics like cham and hack...but come on, now. u cannot sit here and tell me u dont see the difference between kobe's drive, lebron's drive and their tendency to step up in big moments vs. freeze up.....come on, meho. i respect ur opinions, but the shit really couldn't be any more obvious, and the trend continues after watching the past 2 heat vs spurs games.
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NIK certainly doesn't have any confidence in playing fantasy football this year :D
i mean hell if someone invited me to play fantasy hockey i'd give that shit a shot even though I don't follow the NHL
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lol im not guna play fantasy sports in a sport i dont follow...get over it cuddie
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lol im not guna play fantasy sports in a sport i dont follow...get over it cuddie
well grow some testicle and start following the best sport in the world
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lol im not guna play fantasy sports in a sport i dont follow...get over it cuddie
well grow some testicle and start following the best sport in the world
ill do that when u start followin israeli soccer
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lol im not guna play fantasy sports in a sport i dont follow...get over it cuddie
well grow some testicle and start following the best sport in the world
ill do that when u start followin israeli soccer
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the problem with following israeli sports is that they have to draft new players every week because they all die from suicide bombings
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
how is it an opinion? u really dont see the difference between kobe and lebron? i expect idiots like mdogg not to get it, and lebron fanatics like cham and hack...but come on, now. u cannot sit here and tell me u dont see the difference between kobe's drive, lebron's drive and their tendency to step up in big moments vs. freeze up.....come on, meho. i respect ur opinions, but the shit really couldn't be any more obvious, and the trend continues after watching the past 2 heat vs spurs games.
Like I've said couple of weeks ago in this (or maybe some other) thread that the difference was obvious prior to Lebron winning his first ring. Now that he has that, you can see it killed a huge psychological block he had. Sure, he still shows tendency from time to time, mainly because he's new at it (taking charge when it matters the most). But he keeps getting better at it every game.
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Lol @NIK tryna woo niggas to side with him.
Love when NIK breaks out the "really dog? You? I expected better, I respect your opinion" act.
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i still can't get over how 18 points, 18 rebounds and 10 assists is a disappointing game :D
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
how is it an opinion? u really dont see the difference between kobe and lebron? i expect idiots like mdogg not to get it, and lebron fanatics like cham and hack...but come on, now. u cannot sit here and tell me u dont see the difference between kobe's drive, lebron's drive and their tendency to step up in big moments vs. freeze up.....come on, meho. i respect ur opinions, but the shit really couldn't be any more obvious, and the trend continues after watching the past 2 heat vs spurs games.
Like I've said couple of weeks ago in this (or maybe some other) thread that the difference was obvious prior to Lebron winning his first ring. Now that he has that, you can see it killed a huge psychological block he had. Sure, he still shows tendency from time to time, mainly because he's new at it (taking charge when it matters the most). But he keeps getting better at it every game.
dunno if u watched the last 2 heat-spurs games, but he took a major step back at it, once again...and if heat lose the finals, how am i wrong? if kobe scored under 20 points in the first 2 games of a finals series he'd be crucified, and u know it.
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now THIS is a bad game so far by James. 1-6 with 3 assists and 5 boards...the 5 boards is nice but not when you can't capitalize off them with points
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now THIS is a bad game so far by James. 1-6 with 3 assists and 5 boards...the 5 boards is nice but not when you can't capitalize off them with points
damn, that is just shocking bro...i really couldnt have called it after watching the first two....j/k
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now THIS is a bad game so far by James. 1-6 with 3 assists and 5 boards...the 5 boards is nice but not when you can't capitalize off them with points
damn, that is just shocking bro...i really couldnt have called it after watching the first two....j/k
that triple double was sick...hard for a SF to grab 18 rebounds and drop 10 dimes in the same game against the Spurs
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now THIS is a bad game so far by James. 1-6 with 3 assists and 5 boards...the 5 boards is nice but not when you can't capitalize off them with points
damn, that is just shocking bro...i really couldnt have called it after watching the first two....j/k
that triple double was sick...hard for a SF to grab 18 rebounds and drop 10 dimes in the same game against the Spurs
i dont give a fuck, he could grab 40 rebounds, if ur team loses + u score 10 points under your average when ur team depends on u as their top scorer, thats still bad.
and again, he's not surprising me in this game either....too bad there arent more laker fans postin here to support what im seein.
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Did they just play Keep Their Heads Ringin?
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now THIS is a bad game so far by James. 1-6 with 3 assists and 5 boards...the 5 boards is nice but not when you can't capitalize off them with points
damn, that is just shocking bro...i really couldnt have called it after watching the first two....j/k
that triple double was sick...hard for a SF to grab 18 rebounds and drop 10 dimes in the same game against the Spurs
i dont give a fuck, he could grab 40 rebounds, if ur team loses + u score 10 points under your average when ur team depends on u as their top scorer, thats still bad.
lol
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wow James with 9 quick points
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^wow amazing...
the greatest of all time, ladies n gentlemen. am i still wrong?
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#rape
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Horrible game by every heat player not named Miller. Lebron was terrible. Hesitant, shaky jumper.
Spurs look to be a better team; can't wait for game 4.
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Horrible game by every heat player not named Miller. Lebron was terrible. Hesitant, shaky jumper.
Spurs look to be a better team; can't wait for game 4.
lebron had like a 2 minute span where he was great and the other 40 minutes he sucked ass
i dunno why he doesn't go in the post in the first 15 minutes or so of games, coach Spo is gonna get fired if he doesn't win this shit. Riles won't have this lol
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
how is it an opinion? u really dont see the difference between kobe and lebron? i expect idiots like mdogg not to get it, and lebron fanatics like cham and hack...but come on, now. u cannot sit here and tell me u dont see the difference between kobe's drive, lebron's drive and their tendency to step up in big moments vs. freeze up.....come on, meho. i respect ur opinions, but the shit really couldn't be any more obvious, and the trend continues after watching the past 2 heat vs spurs games.
Like I've said couple of weeks ago in this (or maybe some other) thread that the difference was obvious prior to Lebron winning his first ring. Now that he has that, you can see it killed a huge psychological block he had. Sure, he still shows tendency from time to time, mainly because he's new at it (taking charge when it matters the most). But he keeps getting better at it every game.
dunno if u watched the last 2 heat-spurs games, but he took a major step back at it, once again...and if heat lose the finals, how am i wrong? if kobe scored under 20 points in the first 2 games of a finals series he'd be crucified, and u know it.
I did. I see nothing wrong with his play, he may have not been as effective scoring wise but he did great making up for it in other areas, which is what he's supposed to do. But today, he was shitty as it gets. Everybody could see it. Now, if he doesn't pick it up and has 2 more terrible games and loose the series, you've got a case. But if he picks it up, it's just normal ups and downs players have in the finals. Look at how shitty Parker and Duncan were previous game. Duncan stepped it up today, and Parker had a bad game again but he got injured so he gets a pass.
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Spurs looked really good last night, they really can win this one - Miami needs to step their game up, specially LeBron and Wayde. Game 4 is going to be exciting 8)
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Fell asleep during the game (either I'm getting old, or work is too busy, or both) but man, the Heat sucked it up. I still say they'd win in 7, but not if they play like the did in Indiana. Well they are playing worst than they did in Indiana and it looks like Duncan might retire a winner. LeBron is shrinking and making last year look like just a flash. He better pick it up, because the Heat are not going to make it to the Finals next year.
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Not to mention that last year or maybe even 2 years ago, we had numerous conversation about how sometimes Kobe sucked for the first 3 quarters but then stepped it up in the 4th, thus making him a fighter, a winner and basically doing everything he can for his team to win. I agreed with you on that.
But your logic can't be:
Kobe suck for first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= winners mentality, clutch
Lebron sucks for the first 3 quarters but steps it up in the 4th= he got carried by his team
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
the difference=lebron only plays good with confidence. kobe simply conserves his game for the 4th to strike when his teammates need it. lebron was only able to play loose when miami took the lead. i was watchin that shit on aderall lol, trust me.
You can't project your own personal fucking opinion as a fact. You can't. You're always talking in absolutes.
how is it an opinion? u really dont see the difference between kobe and lebron? i expect idiots like mdogg not to get it, and lebron fanatics like cham and hack...but come on, now. u cannot sit here and tell me u dont see the difference between kobe's drive, lebron's drive and their tendency to step up in big moments vs. freeze up.....come on, meho. i respect ur opinions, but the shit really couldn't be any more obvious, and the trend continues after watching the past 2 heat vs spurs games.
Like I've said couple of weeks ago in this (or maybe some other) thread that the difference was obvious prior to Lebron winning his first ring. Now that he has that, you can see it killed a huge psychological block he had. Sure, he still shows tendency from time to time, mainly because he's new at it (taking charge when it matters the most). But he keeps getting better at it every game.
dunno if u watched the last 2 heat-spurs games, but he took a major step back at it, once again...and if heat lose the finals, how am i wrong? if kobe scored under 20 points in the first 2 games of a finals series he'd be crucified, and u know it.
I did. I see nothing wrong with his play, he may have not been as effective scoring wise but he did great making up for it in other areas, which is what he's supposed to do. But today, he was shitty as it gets. Everybody could see it. Now, if he doesn't pick it up and has 2 more terrible games and loose the series, you've got a case. But if he picks it up, it's just normal ups and downs players have in the finals. Look at how shitty Parker and Duncan were previous game. Duncan stepped it up today, and Parker had a bad game again but he got injured so he gets a pass.
3 consecutive games in the finals with under 20 points wheb u average 27 is not normal bro lol
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Like I've said, he adapted in 2 games out of 3 by providing in other areas. He has to turn it around though. If Miami loose and Lebron continues playing like he has so far, people might start to look at his title as a fluke. We'll see.
Great article on James http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/12/film-study-spurs-dare-james-to-shoot-and-he-does-it-poorly/?ls=iref:nbahpt6d
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No excuses for James. He's been pathetic. Wade and bosh have been even worse...
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Like I've said, he attapted in 2 games out of 3 by providing in other areas. He has to turn it around though. If Miami loose and Lebron continues playing like he has so far, people might start to look at his title as a fluke. We'll see.
Great article on James http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/12/film-study-spurs-dare-james-to-shoot-and-he-does-it-poorly/?ls=iref:nbahpt6d
game 2 was actually just as bad as game 3 for him...his teammates simply did a better job of carrying him in that one. game 1, i guess u can give him a pass for the triple double...but still, it doesnt exactly take a genius to see somethin is up.
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Like I've said, he attapted in 2 games out of 3 by providing in other areas. He has to turn it around though. If Miami loose and Lebron continues playing like he has so far, people might start to look at his title as a fluke. We'll see.
Great article on James http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/12/film-study-spurs-dare-james-to-shoot-and-he-does-it-poorly/?ls=iref:nbahpt6d
That's a good article. That's why I always say he doesn't have the game to carry him into his 30's. Right now, LeBron is so physically dominate that it doesn't matter. But the Spurs defense is exposing LeBron's weak jump shot, and the Heat, as I've said throughout this playoffs, look to be depleting. It could be a perfect storm. LeBron may go down like Hakeem, people will remember a great player but he only won because Jordan left. With LeBron, he might be remembered as "that guy" inbetween Kobe and Durant.
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Game 2 he was 17-8-7-3-3..I wouldn't call that a bad game at all. Just a poor shooting night that was made up for in other areas. And most importantly it helped his team to win and that block was a huge psychological turnaround in the game. But if that shooting troubles continue in the next games....it's all on him to show what he's made of.
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does anyone here think Bosh is back next year? championship or not? he's soft as toilet tissue
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does anyone here think Bosh is back next year? championship or not? he's soft as toilet tissue
Bosh is back, but if the Heat are smart then they'd get a new center. Bosh is at the center position, which is unnatural for him. He's a European PF (style wise I mean) and he needs to be next to a bruiser to be effective. Battier was a good fit to be next to him, but he is wearing down and getting older. Right now, the Heat's most effective player inside is Chris Anderson, and that's not a good thing, that's a very bad thing.
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does anyone here think Bosh is back next year? championship or not? he's soft as toilet tissue
Bosh is back, but if the Heat are smart then they'd get a new center. Bosh is at the center position, which is unnatural for him. He's a European PF (style wise I mean) and he needs to be next to a bruiser to be effective. Battier was a good fit to be next to him, but he is wearing down and getting older. Right now, the Heat's most effective player inside is Chris Anderson, and that's not a good thing, that's a very bad thing.
i know he's a bum but i wonder why they don't bother playing Joel Anthony at all...i mean they did get to a finals with him 2 years ago as a starter
anyone think Tony Parker is gonna be effective tomorrow night? you KNOW he's gonna play
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2013 Playoff Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 469
2. Paul George-IND 365
3. Tony Parker-SAS 362
4. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
7. David West-IND 302
8. Tim Duncan-SAS 290
9. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
10. George Hill-IND 263
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Game 2 he was 17-8-7-3-3..I wouldn't call that a bad game at all. Just a poor shooting night that was made up for in other areas. And most importantly it helped his team to win and that block was a huge psychological turnaround in the game. But if that shooting troubles continue in the next games....it's all on him to show what he's made of.
call it what u want, thats a bad game for him, especially for those who actually sat and watched the whole thing...in game 2, he was was non-existant in the first three quarters and went off in the 4th when the heat already had the game in their hands. trust me. theres a thin line between being incredibly good at analyzing talent and being analytically paranoid. i'm not paranoid, i've been singin the same tune for years now, and i end up looking like nostradamus most of the time when it's all said and done...come on, meho. u'v been here long enough to witness it first hand.
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the funny thing is that if the Heat win the finals right now Lebron looks like the finals MVP based on how wack the rest of the Heat are playing :D
if the Spurs win it's GOTTA be TD...he's been pulling boards like a muthafucka knowing he has softy big men like Bosh going against him
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if the heat win, finals mvp should be between birdman and mike miller :laugh:
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if the heat win, finals mvp should be between birdman and mike miller :laugh:
:D give it to Birdman
is it me or does birdman look like a 7 foot version of Yelawolf?
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I'd give it to Birdman. And there is something just wrong with that.
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Sorry I've been away for the day. Somebody just talked me out of jumping off a building.
Heat in six.
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LOL
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Sorry I've been away for the day. Somebody just talked me out of jumping off a building.
Heat in six.
Is there a number I should keep in handy in case of the worst? Just to check up on you.
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If they lose game four, that'll probably be it. Just sitting in my room with gun in hand, waiting on the inevitable. But won't pull until it's official on the off chance Bron pulls out a three game miracle.
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If they lose game four, that'll probably be it. Just sitting in my room with gun in hand, waiting on the inevitable. But won't pull until it's official on the off chance Bron pulls out a three game miracle.
Okay, I'll phone the police then. Need you alive around here.
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Your concern is much appreciated. I'll be sure to leave you some assets in my will.
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2.5 hours to go
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what a great game so far by both teams
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what a great game so far by James and Wade
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who else watching
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Wade and James are on fire
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what a great game so far by James and Wade
and both get 30+ tonight
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NIK can't even say that Stern helped the Heat out, being as they only shot 17 free throws. heat just played a great game
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So relieving lol.
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NIK can't even say that Stern helped the Heat out, being as they only shot 17 free throws. heat just played a great game
yep, just straight domination by Bron and Wade...and Bosh too
Duncan help his own but Parker sat out too much and Manu was horrible
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Well, Lebron definitely responded big time. Wade and Bosh also finally woke up. On the other hand, Spurs big 3 were meh.
I still can't predict who is gonna win this, next game is super important.
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Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 502
2. Tony Parker-SAS 377
3. Paul George-IND 365
4. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
6. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
7. Tim Duncan-SAS 310
8. David West-IND 302
9. Dwyane Wade-MIA 287
10. Stephen Curry-GSW 28
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NIK can't even say that Stern helped the Heat out, being as they only shot 17 free throws. heat just played a great game
i guess he finds it easier to just ignore this thread now :D
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this is what lebron needs out of wade to compete. wade's gotta play like a franchise player the rest of the way for miami to have a chance.
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The Heat almost won by 20. They don't need 30+ from Wade, just a small spurt here or there, drop 20 and play defense.
Like Scottie. ;)
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The Heat almost won by 20. They don't need 30+ from Wade, just a small spurt here or there, drop 20 and play defense.
Like Scottie. ;)
lol they definitely need wade to be a superstar player if they want a chance.
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wade was no superstar in game 2 and they won that game :laugh:
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wade was no superstar in game 2 and they won that game :laugh:
that was the game that mario chalmers won, right?
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Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
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Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
You forgot LeBron. Best player ever in any sport 8) 8) 8)
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Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
You forgot LeBron. Best player ever in any sport 8) 8) 8)
25 years from now, people will remember Lebron most out of this era. but for now TD and Shaq are ahead of him and I personally put KG ahead of him too
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Haven't watched the game today but judging from the highlights and play-by-play Lebron disappeared yet again. Only 7 points in the 3rd quarter (4 free throws) and only 3 in the 4th quarter (1 free throw). That's terrible. He must turn it around in next to game if not...I'll hold my opinion till the series is over.
Still hoping this goes to game 7 8)
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Great game by Spurs, they will win the tittle in 7 games 8)
Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
Kobe is the best player in post-Jordan era, with Tim being the second one but he wins that 5th ring, which I think he will, it's going to be an interesting discussion 8)
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Great game by Spurs, they will win the tittle in 7 games 8)
Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
Kobe is the best player in post-Jordan era, with Tim being the second one but he wins that 5th ring, which I think he will, it's going to be an interesting discussion 8)
Kobe isn't even the best LAKER post Jordan
Shaq won 3 final's MVP's in a row
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game 6 tmrw night in Miami at 9pm
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Great game by Spurs, they will win the tittle in 7 games 8)
Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
Kobe is the best player in post-Jordan era, with Tim being the second one but he wins that 5th ring, which I think he will, it's going to be an interesting discussion 8)
Kobe isn't even the best LAKER post Jordan
Shaq won 3 final's MVP's in a row
I'd disagree with that, and I'm a Shaq man. The last year of the three-peat, Kobe was over shadowing Shaq, but against the Nets the match up was too good to just waste Shaq, and Shaq was as dominate as ever. Not saying Kerry Kittles and Keith Van Horn were great defenders, but when Shaq is guarded by Todd MacCulloch, then you just have to take advantage and that's what Phil did. But throughout the season, and in the playoffs, Kobe was getting more minutes, he led the team in assist and he was driving the triangle offense. But the Finals, you just had a great match up in which you had to throw it down to Shaq and let Shaq be Shaq. Even though throughout the season, Shaq was an out of shape bum. In the next two years, Kobe have easily over shadowed Shaq, which is what led to the disaster of 2004. Kobe was the leading scorer those two seasons, which caused Shaq to whine. Kobe got 30ppg in 2002-2003, to Shaq's 27ppg, and then 24ppg to Shaq's 21ppg with that Super Laker team that lost to the Pistons. If Shaq had accepted his role as big man and let Kobe be the man well he takes the role player position, then you would have saw more NBA titles for the Lakers and Kobe win at least 1-2 more NBA Finals MVPs.
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last Lakers title by Shaq and Kobe:
regular season
Shaq: 27.2 PPG, 10.7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 BPG
Kobe: 25.2 PPG, 5.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists and a .250 3-point percentage
post sesaon:
Shaq: 28.5 ppg, 12.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 2.5 blocks per game
Kobe: 26.6 ppg 5.8 rebounds, 4.6 assists and a .379 3-point percentage
tell me again how Kobe was better??
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last Lakers title by Shaq and Kobe:
regular season
Shaq: 27.2 PPG, 10.7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 BPG
Kobe: 25.2 PPG, 5.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists and a .250 3-point percentage
post sesaon:
Shaq: 28.5 ppg, 12.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 2.5 blocks per game
Kobe: 26.6 ppg 5.8 rebounds, 4.6 assists and a .379 3-point percentage
tell me again how Kobe was better??
As I said, more minutes, led the team in assist. He was the main play maker. That was the last year of dominate Shaq, and he was out of shape most of the year.
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more minutes and less production? that makes Shaq the man even more
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Points
1. LeBron James-MIA 527
2. Tony Parker-SAS 403
3. Paul George-IND 365
4. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 346
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 339
6. Tim Duncan-SAS 327
7. Roy Hibbert-IND 323
8. Dwyane Wade-MIA 312
9. David West-IND 302
10. Stephen Curry-GSW 281
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Great game by Spurs, they will win the tittle in 7 games 8)
Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
Kobe is the best player in post-Jordan era, with Tim being the second one but he wins that 5th ring, which I think he will, it's going to be an interesting discussion 8)
lol, yea, very interesting discussion...i can see it right now. who was the better spur- tony parker or tim duncan? thats where it'll end.
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more minutes and less production? that makes Shaq the man even more
basically, no one in sports with a respectable opinion has ever placed shaq on the all-time list above kobe...and they haven't placed kg in goat power forward discussions either. ur makin urself look bad, hack. fall back.
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anyone who values NBA Finals dominance will take Shaq over Kobe. Easily son.
and you just hate on KG cuz he's a Celtic and his team kept your boy toy Kobe from winning a 6th ring :D
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anyone who values NBA Finals dominance will take Shaq over Kobe. Easily son.
and you just hate on KG cuz he's a Celtic and his team kept your boy toy Kobe from winning a 6th ring :D
show me credible sources who takes shaq over kobe on an all-time list...cuz i can show u a bunch who have kobe way ahead.
shaq was dominant when kobe was 21 lol...we're talkin bout prime for prime here. when kobe started hitting his prime, shaq became like a jealous underperforming husband without his viagra. a joke that u'd even place them in the same echelon.
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Kobe failed to even score 10 points in finals games against the weakling Pacers son. Shaq carried those teams and we both know it. Shaq won 3 finals MVP's and just as many MVP awards as your boyfriend Kobe. and Shaq also lead his team to beat MJ the playoffs in the 1990s...NOBODy else can say that. not Malone, Stockton, Barkley ,Kemp, Payton, Magic, Drexler, Ewing etc.
btw Lebron at that age was waging wars against Tim Duncan in his prime with the Spurs
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Kobe failed to even score 10 points in finals games against the weakling Pacers son. Shaq carried those teams and we both know it. Shaq won 3 finals MVP's and just as many MVP awards as your boyfriend Kobe. and Shaq also lead his team to beat MJ the playoffs in the 1990s...NOBODy else can say that. not Malone, Stockton, Barkley ,Kemp, Payton, Magic, Drexler, Ewing etc.
btw Lebron at that age was waging wars against Tim Duncan in his prime with the Spurs
ur talking about a kobe way before his prime...lebron, IN HIS PRIME, had finals games with under 10 points lmao. ur shittin in ur own mouth, brodie.
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Lebron's prime is last and this year...and the next 2-3 or 3-5
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MJ never averaged below 30 in the finals...you just mad your boy Kobe can't compare
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btw NIk...i had some BBQ ribs for dinner. you should try 'em 8) ;D
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
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Tim Duncan is 1 win away from his 5th ring
besides KG and Shaq, dude is the best player post-Jordan
You forgot LeBron. Best player ever in any sport 8) 8) 8)
8) 8)
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
i'll rank the top 10 lakers all-time to make it easier for u to realize how far apart they are
kobe=magic>kareem>wilt>shaq>west>baylor>worthy>goodrich>wilkes
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first off Magic > Kobe any day of the week (prior to the aids virus of course...)
second off Shaq didn't spend his entire career with LA like Kobe did so it's diff. Shaq per year did more for LA than Kobe did but Kobe didn't play for the Magic or Heat in his early or late prime years. Shaq with the Heat won a title and with the Magic he went to the finals via beating an MJ/Pippen/Coach Phil team in 1995. MJ had a whole month of time to prepare for that playoff run so there is no excuse in losing to a Magic team lead by young Shaq.
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first off Magic > Kobe any day of the week (prior to the aids virus of course...)
second off Shaq didn't spend his entire career with LA like Kobe did so it's diff. Shaq per year did more for LA than Kobe did but Kobe didn't play for the Magic or Heat in his early or late prime years. Shaq with the Heat won a title and with the Magic he went to the finals via beating an MJ/Pippen/Coach Phil team in 1995. MJ had a whole month of time to prepare for that playoff run so there is no excuse in losing to a Magic team lead by young Shaq.
LeBron>Rondo>Duncan>Magic
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
i'll rank the top 10 lakers all-time to make it easier for u to realize how far apart they are
kobe=magic>kareem>wilt>shaq>west>baylor>worthy>goodrich>wilkes
Really, let's not get it twisted, Wilt's best years were not with the Lakers. I'd go like this.
Kobe>Magic>Kareem>West>Mikan>Shaq>Baylor>Worthy>Wilt>Goodrich (About to be Pau Gasol in that 10th spot soon though. I said it!)
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putting Kobe ahead of Magic is like putting Jay Z ahead of Rakim lmao
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putting Kobe ahead of Magic is like putting Jay Z ahead of Rakim lmao
Nope, because Kobe is one of the most skilled players in the history of the game. It's because Magic played with hall of fame players and Kobe was part of the greatest duo ever. Kobe did more with less, and trust me, I hate this more than you find this amusing. You see, Magic is my childhood hero, How children of the 90's love Mike, I was a huge Magic fan. He was the idol I grew up with. But to be honest, as teammates it's Byron Scott vs. Derek Fisher, it's James Worthy vs. Ron Artest, it's AC Green vs. Pau Gasol, it's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar vs. an injured Andrew Bynum. With that, I'd say Kobe has the slight edge, these are the two teams that defended the Celtics, and in order to be in the discussion for greatest Laker ever, you have to beat the Celtics. Both Magic and Kobe did it, so they get put in the discussion.
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Shaq with the Heat won a title and with the Magic he went to the finals via beating an MJ/Pippen/Coach Phil team in 1995. MJ had a whole month of time to prepare for that playoff run so there is no excuse in losing to a Magic team lead by young Shaq.
A whole month? That's not enough to get back in competitive form after having been out of the game for a year and a half and playing baseball during that time. He was rusty and was described that series as not looking like the old Michael Jordan.
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
i'll rank the top 10 lakers all-time to make it easier for u to realize how far apart they are
kobe=magic>kareem>wilt>shaq>west>baylor>worthy>goodrich>wilkes
Really, let's not get it twisted, Wilt's best years were not with the Lakers. I'd go like this.
Kobe>Magic>Kareem>West>Mikan>Shaq>Baylor>Worthy>Wilt>Goodrich (About to be Pau Gasol in that 10th spot soon though. I said it!)
im not goin based on their career as a laker only, and putting mikan ahead of worthy and baylor is blasphemy.
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
i'll rank the top 10 lakers all-time to make it easier for u to realize how far apart they are
kobe=magic>kareem>wilt>shaq>west>baylor>worthy>goodrich>wilkes
Really, let's not get it twisted, Wilt's best years were not with the Lakers. I'd go like this.
Kobe>Magic>Kareem>West>Mikan>Shaq>Baylor>Worthy>Wilt>Goodrich (About to be Pau Gasol in that 10th spot soon though. I said it!)
im not goin based on their career as a laker only, and putting mikan ahead of worthy and baylor is blasphemy.
Really, 5 titles and being the first great star in the NBA is not something to be proud of as a franchise. I am not going off of pure skill, then you'd never have older players on any list. I am going off greatest career as a Laker, and Mikan won 5 titles and was the first great player in the NBA. Plus, in a time when blacks were not allowed to play in the BAA (later merged with the NBA), George Mikan challenged the Globetrotters in 1948 after the Lakers won their first BAA title. So because Mikan was willing to play challenge and play against the Globetrotters, this helped speed up the integration of basketball. Mikan's legacy as a Laker, and to the sport of basketball is HUGE!
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if the Heatles lose does Pat Reilly take over as coach next year?
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hey sluts it's game time!! 8)
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if the Heatles lose does Pat Reilly take over as coach next year?
Nope, even he has to know the error of this teams design. The defense is a high pressure, high energy press D, and they have old horses running a young man's run and gun game plan. Either they change to a more half court scheme, which is not in the best interest if you have LeBron, or you get younger players. I think Riles gets younger players first. This D works, it was ranked 5th in the NBA, against teams like the Thunder or if they played the Grizzlies. But against passing teams like the Spurs, last years Celtics, the Heat are in trouble with movement offenses. If the Lakers still ran the triangle, they also would give the Heat fits. But the Heat's defense is still great, but it can use some younger players.
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Duncan came to play!
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lol @ calling that a foul on Allen when he was knocked over like that
Duncan is so close to his 5th ring
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Duncan is playing out of his mind today
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duncan is about to pass Shaq in playoff rebounds
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and this might be Chris Bosh and Erik Spoelstra's last quarter employed by the Heat lolz
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what a game
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Bron is going crazy in the 4th so far...Bosh is a ghost lately as far as scoring goes
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At the end of the day, Kobe>Shaq>LeBron
right now: Shaq > kobe > lebron
but give it a few years and this equation could easily be flipped upside down. this ain't Lebron's last trip to the finals...he's only 28.
i'll rank the top 10 lakers all-time to make it easier for u to realize how far apart they are
kobe=magic>kareem>wilt>shaq>west>baylor>worthy>goodrich>wilkes
Really, let's not get it twisted, Wilt's best years were not with the Lakers. I'd go like this.
Kobe>Magic>Kareem>West>Mikan>Shaq>Baylor>Worthy>Wilt>Goodrich (About to be Pau Gasol in that 10th spot soon though. I said it!)
im not goin based on their career as a laker only, and putting mikan ahead of worthy and baylor is blasphemy.
Really, 5 titles and being the first great star in the NBA is not something to be proud of as a franchise. I am not going off of pure skill, then you'd never have older players on any list. I am going off greatest career as a Laker, and Mikan won 5 titles and was the first great player in the NBA. Plus, in a time when blacks were not allowed to play in the BAA (later merged with the NBA), George Mikan challenged the Globetrotters in 1948 after the Lakers won their first BAA title. So because Mikan was willing to play challenge and play against the Globetrotters, this helped speed up the integration of basketball. Mikan's legacy as a Laker, and to the sport of basketball is HUGE!
still, to say he's a better player than them is a joke.
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saying Kobe is better than Magic is a joke.
However, Duncan over Kobe? That is the truth.
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I'll debate all that later, Tony Parker has ice in his veins right now!
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I still say Danny Green is the Spurs MVP
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WOW! holy shit
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its over 2nd best team in the nba, D wade is over soon as coach spo made that line up change and took mike miller out and put d wade in, spurs started packing the paint again. Shotty ref officiating and its been a great season its a wrap
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OVERTIME SLUTS
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That was a HUGE mistake to take Duncan out. I was like, WTF? Who takes out your best player in the finals minutes? Even Phil kept in Shaq in defensive situations.
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That was a HUGE mistake to take Duncan out. I was like, WTF? Who takes out your best player in the finals minutes? Even Phil kept in Shaq in defensive situations.
haha well both are horrible free throw shooters
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this is such a GREAT game. i hope we get a game 7
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OH SHIT
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MIAMI WOULD BE RETARDED TO NOT FOUL IMMEDIATELY
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I THINK WE HAVE A GAME 7 ON OUR HANDS
BARRING A MIRACLE SHOT OF COURSE
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GAME 7 BITCHES!!!
WOW WHAT AN OVERTIME!!!!
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Game 7 thanks to the no call. Oh well, at least I'll be right with my prediction. And really, that's all that matters.
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Game 7 thanks to the no call. Oh well, at least I'll be right with my prediction. And really, that's all that matters.
NIK is crying himself to sleep right now knowing the Heat are still alive
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another triple double by Lebron
Hey NIK did he do well today since he scored over 30 points??? :D
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Game 7 thanks to the no call. Oh well, at least I'll be right with my prediction. And really, that's all that matters.
NIK is crying himself to sleep right now knowing the Heat are still alive
Either way, this is a nightmare for a Kobe fan.
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Game 7 thanks to the no call. Oh well, at least I'll be right with my prediction. And really, that's all that matters.
NIK is crying himself to sleep right now knowing the Heat are still alive
Either way, this is a nightmare for a Kobe fan.
:D
duncan was the MAN today. dude is so damn good!
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yea still alive, i thought we were done son like an all meat double patty with the sesame seed bun. ray allen what a game he came through when it was time. C bosh is getting raped by duncan but he showed why hes the anchor of that heat defense. This game was the shit, just a rollercoaster ride of thrills and we got yet another game.
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Game 7 thanks to the no call. Oh well, at least I'll be right with my prediction. And really, that's all that matters.
NIK is crying himself to sleep right now knowing the Heat are still alive
Either way, this is a nightmare for a Kobe fan.
:D
duncan was the MAN today. dude is so damn good!
He just see's a chili cheese dog in chris bosh- he's food. 25 pts in the first half he was really trying to pop the champagn today
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and yet NIK tries to tell us Chris Bosh is a "franchise player" ::)
Magic and Jalen are joking about the Spurs now because they didn't close it out today
"you only got one day to recover...they're going to say they had game 6 locked"
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and OF COURSE that faggot Bill Simmons brings up a BASEBALL comparison (86 red sox losing to the NY Mess)
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LOL @ the Crypt Keeper aka Popavich taking Duncan out and getting burned on offensive rebounds/threes TWICE. Dude singlehandedly blew it for his guys.
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game 7 is gonna be so amazing
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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what a game 6!
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What a game. Some questionable decisions by Popovich, Lebron stepped it up when it mattered the most (he has been very hot n cold this series). Game 7 should be the shit!
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What a fucking game! So many big moments and great plays, key mistakes by both teams increasing the tension, just a great fuckkng game. As for Bron, loved his compete in the 4th. He made some mistakes, but played like he really can in the 4th for the first time all series.
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That was so remarkable.
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wonder why NIK didn't reply to this thread last night
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Still waitin for game 7, the better team will win
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Still waitin for game 7, the better team will win
yeah, the Heatles
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Was at work..... had googled the score and forgot to refresher browser..... I thought the spurs won, lol.
Gotta nice surprise when I caught the evening news.
Roller coaster game...... spurs blew it.
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7 HOURS TO GO
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90 minutes to go
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what a sloppy game by both teams so far
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNQAOBrCQAAgq-R.jpg)
this commercial has logged more playoff minutes than Durant did this year
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Lebron is straight killing it so far
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNQAOBrCQAAgq-R.jpg)
this commercial has logged more playoff minutes than Durant did this year
Were the Blunder not your WC final prediction?
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I don't remember but I bet if Westbrook were healthy they'd be here tonight.
either way what a game! Lebron straight schooling suckers.
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LEBRON WITH THE CLUTCH SHOT
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WOW
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Lebron James just keeps making history happen! WITNESS!
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i bet NIK doesn't show up on here tonight :D
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Lebron finished this playoffs with 596 total points. Not too shabby but last year he had a hundred more lol
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Lebron James, Bill Russell and Michael Jordan are the only players to win back-to-back MVP awards, NBA championships and NBA Finals MVP's.
Funny how no Laker has ever done that ;)
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wonder if the Heat can three-peat next year
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no way does Kevin Garnett miss that shot
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Good game by the Bullets, I'll bet they build on this and capitalize in years to come.
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Good game by the Bullets, I'll bet they build on this and capitalize in years to come.
you're just happy as long as OKC dones't win the title
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Good game by the Bullets, I'll bet they build on this and capitalize in years to come.
you're just happy as long as OKC dones't win the title
Well I hate LeBron and had an undisclosed amount of money riding on this series but you're right, it is all relative. I was very happy when the Heat won last year. As for the Bullets comment, I'm hammered and don't know where that came from. Frustration.
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Good game by the Bullets, I'll bet they build on this and capitalize in years to come.
you're just happy as long as OKC dones't win the title
Well I hate LeBron and had an undisclosed amount of money riding on this series but you're right, it is all relative. I was very happy when the Heat won last year. As for the Bullets comment, I'm hammered and don't know where that came from. Frustration.
resident Dubcc poster Chamillitary Click was spotted sitting courtside of game 7:
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
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WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW GOAT!
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WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW GOAT!
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
I'm a Laker hater. Laker fans hate Lebron, therefore him winning is good for my business. Game 6 last year hurt but our rival is the LAkers, not the Heat.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
I'm a Laker hater. Laker fans hate Lebron, therefore him winning is good for my business. Game 6 last year hurt but our rival is the LAkers, not the Heat.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
Laker hater above rooting for your own team? The ultimate traitor of the Celtics (ray allen) saved the Heat from losing and you're prancing around here like your team won lol. Just calling it like I see it my dude.
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were my Celtics playing tonight? no
I don't hate Ray Allen....left a bad taste in our mouths but he helped deliver us a title so I can't hate the guy.
Viva Lebron....already has as many finals MVP's as kobe but LBJ is only 28
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were my Celtics playing tonight? no
I don't hate Ray Allen....left a bad taste in our mouths but he helped deliver us a title so I can't hate the guy.
Viva Lebron....already has as many finals MVP's as kobe but LBJ is only 28
nik will come in here, and im just guessing, and talk about how "if this was different and that was different, kobe would have 9 titles and 8 mvps"
i talk like that sometimes about the Cowboys, so whatever i guess.
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were my Celtics playing tonight? no
I don't hate Ray Allen....left a bad taste in our mouths but he helped deliver us a title so I can't hate the guy.
Viva Lebron....already has as many finals MVP's as kobe but LBJ is only 28
lol he shat on your team bro. I like Ray as much as anyone for what he did when he played out here, just keeping it real though. I'd hate him if I were in your shoes.
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Congrats to the Heat well played game and Lebron finally comes through late...either way MJ still the GOAT and not even close anyone that says LeBron at this point in his career is either a jockrider or a complete handicapped moron nothing more nothing less...Congrats Heat fans!!
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I was rooting for Spurs but LeBron showed up and delivered the ring to Heat so congratulations to all the Miami fans - again, great game by King James and one of the best NBA Finals series in recent years.
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Great way to end a season. Game 7 was obviously a very nervous one, filled with mistakes and bad decisions but it was still great to watch. Lebron stepped up BIG time, he was super clutch. Wade was knocking down shots left and right, huge props to him on getting that 3rd ring. Battier and Chalmers also did their thing, while Bosh and Miller sucked.
On SAS on the other hand, Timmy did what he could, Ginobilli was hot and cold yet again but Parker blew it completley and it wasn't the first time in this series. Funny how nobody calls him a chocker. Oh and Kawahi will be a HUGE star in the future, dude is mad talented and has balls. Anyway, Spurs lost the finals in game 6.
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wonder if the Heat can three-peat next year
dont count on it....this is lebron's peak. it's all downhill from here.
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
excactly :stupid:
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
I'm a Laker hater. Laker fans hate Lebron, therefore him winning is good for my business. Game 6 last year hurt but our rival is the LAkers, not the Heat.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
poor excuse...laker fans didnt want spurs to win either.
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wonder if the Heat can three-peat next year
dont count on it....this is lebron's peak. it's all downhill from here.
Agreed. I think LeBron might get a couple more titles over the years. But the Heat as a whole look like shit. I don't expect a 3 peat.
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he's only 28 guys
you act like he's 32 lol
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I'm not talking about him. winning means they'll try to keep the same team. This team is deteriorating, aging fast. Wade isn't what he was, Bosh is a flop and the bench is OLD. I don't see them winning the East next year, not with Rose coming back and Indy getting a year of experience. I fully expect the Heat to have the best record in the NBA next year, and then fade in the playoffs. But will LeBron still be the best player in the world, yes. Will he's teammates help him, no.
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i bet Riles makes some good off sesaon moves
i could really still see Bosh being traded too
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
I'm a Laker hater. Laker fans hate Lebron, therefore him winning is good for my business. Game 6 last year hurt but our rival is the LAkers, not the Heat.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
poor excuse...laker fans didnt want spurs to win either.
you did
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i bet Riles makes some good off sesaon moves
i could really still see Bosh being traded too
Maybe, but conventional wisdom is to keep championship teams together.
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Great way to end a season. Game 7 was obviously a very nervous one, filled with mistakes and bad decisions but it was still great to watch. Lebron stepped up BIG time, he was super clutch. Wade was knocking down shots left and right, huge props to him on getting that 3rd ring. Battier and Chalmers also did their thing, while Bosh and Miller sucked.
On SAS on the other hand, Timmy did what he could, Ginobilli was hot and cold yet again but Parker blew it completley and it wasn't the first time in this series. Funny how nobody calls him a chocker. Oh and Kawahi will be a HUGE star in the future, dude is mad talented and has balls. Anyway, Spurs lost the finals in game 6.
all three of the spurs big three choked big time.
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you were on here tonight after the game, why so silent?
This calls you into question Mr. Wilson. You're celebrating this win as if you're a fan, yet the Heat took an absolute dump on your Celtics two years in a row (excluding this year in which they weren't good enough to make it) AND Ray Allen shat on your Celtics by defecting to the team that destroyed him two years in a row. Not a good look bro, just keeping it real.
I'm a Laker hater. Laker fans hate Lebron, therefore him winning is good for my business. Game 6 last year hurt but our rival is the LAkers, not the Heat.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
poor excuse...laker fans didnt want spurs to win either.
you did
i went on record sayin i couldnt root for any team, broken head
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Great way to end a season. Game 7 was obviously a very nervous one, filled with mistakes and bad decisions but it was still great to watch. Lebron stepped up BIG time, he was super clutch. Wade was knocking down shots left and right, huge props to him on getting that 3rd ring. Battier and Chalmers also did their thing, while Bosh and Miller sucked.
On SAS on the other hand, Timmy did what he could, Ginobilli was hot and cold yet again but Parker blew it completley and it wasn't the first time in this series. Funny how nobody calls him a chocker. Oh and Kawahi will be a HUGE star in the future, dude is mad talented and has balls. Anyway, Spurs lost the finals in game 6.
all three of the spurs big three choked big time.
Heat won, Spurs lost it's as easy as that.
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i bet Riles makes some good off sesaon moves
i could really still see Bosh being traded too
Maybe, but conventional wisdom is to keep championship teams together.
maybe they trade Bosh to the Clippers for Jordan and someone else
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/lebron-james-is-quieting-the-haters-one-nba-title-at-a-time/2013/06/21/3458e36c-daaa-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html?wprss=rss_mike-wise
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"Lebron James didn't need Ron Artest to bail him out in game 7" - Petros Papadakis :D
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Great way to end a season. Game 7 was obviously a very nervous one, filled with mistakes and bad decisions but it was still great to watch. Lebron stepped up BIG time, he was super clutch. Wade was knocking down shots left and right, huge props to him on getting that 3rd ring. Battier and Chalmers also did their thing, while Bosh and Miller sucked.
On SAS on the other hand, Timmy did what he could, Ginobilli was hot and cold yet again but Parker blew it completley and it wasn't the first time in this series. Funny how nobody calls him a chocker. Oh and Kawahi will be a HUGE star in the future, dude is mad talented and has balls. Anyway, Spurs lost the finals in game 6.
all three of the spurs big three choked big time.
Heat won, Spurs lost it's as easy as that.
groundbreaking
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hey NIK, wasn't LEbron clutch as hell at the end of the game? sinking all those shots like a champ son
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
Wade only scored 23 son
Lebron scored 37 including huge shots and free-throws late in the game. and he made the key steal to win the game. did you watch the full game or turn it off late in the 4th when you realized the Heat were taking over? Lebron was great while Allen and Bosh combined for 0 points. Wade hit some clutch shots too but he was not the reason the Heat won.
On a funny note, I heard that chick Amy Vandyken on fox sports radio say "if the spurs win, duncan and parker probably retire on top"
lmao @ the thought of Parker retiring at age 31 when he has 25 million bucks coming to him the next 2 years...that chick is so stupid and could never host a show on her own. Except for a swimming show ::)
I've heard her say plenty of other dumb things about baseball and football too.
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NIK needs a five day ban to let his blasphemous thoughts marinate in his Jew cave.
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Okay, enough about LeBron, I just have one question. Am I the only one bothered that Chris Anderson won an NBA title? I mean, to me, there is something wrong with that.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
No, actually it's like Kobe teaming up with Pau Gasol. Or Kobe teaming up with Howard and Nash.
Nobody wins titles by themselves. Durant wasn't shit without Westbrook this year. Garnett had to team up with Pierece and Allen. Wade had to team up with Shaq. And so on. You're only playing the "what if game" and what could've or should've been when it comes to Lebron. Hence my comment before; Heat won, Spurs lost. That's all everybody is going to remember.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
No, actually it's like Kobe teaming up with Pau Gasol.
lmao...right. cuz pau was a finals mvp when kobe teamed up with him. smfh@the comparison.
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Pau is a GREAT player and you know it. And he worked perfectly with Kobe. He has one terrible season because he got injured left and right and people forget everything he did for Lakers, it's disgusting.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
No, actually it's like Kobe teaming up with Pau Gasol. Or Kobe teaming up with Howard and Nash.
Nobody wins titles by themselves. Durant wasn't shit without Westbrook this year. Garnett had to team up with Pierece and Allen. Wade had to team up with Shaq. And so on. You're only playing the "what if game" and what could've or should've been when it comes to Lebron. Hence my comment before; Heat won, Spurs lost. That's all everybody is going to remember.
NIK is atraight embarrassing himself in this thread. Everyone needs help; I seem to remember Kobe missing two game winners, only to have Artest and Gasol "bail" him out. Fact is , no one guy has ever won a title. And really, Bron scored as much in the second half of game 7 as safe did the whole game. Wade played very well in game 7, but he was no lebron.
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So I guess we are okay with Chris Anderson winning an NBA title?
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Pau is a GREAT player
lmfaooooo...i think ima stop discussin with u.
kobe is a great player. michael jordan, magic johnson, larry bird are great players....pau is a borderline all-star and a GOOD second option, but to call pau a great player is pretty damn strange comin from someone who i would expect to know the difference between a great player and a good one.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
No, actually it's like Kobe teaming up with Pau Gasol. Or Kobe teaming up with Howard and Nash.
Nobody wins titles by themselves. Durant wasn't shit without Westbrook this year. Garnett had to team up with Pierece and Allen. Wade had to team up with Shaq. And so on. You're only playing the "what if game" and what could've or should've been when it comes to Lebron. Hence my comment before; Heat won, Spurs lost. That's all everybody is going to remember.
NIK is atraight embarrassing himself in this thread. Everyone needs help; I seem to remember Kobe missing two game winners, only to have Artest and Gasol "bail" him out. Fact is , no one guy has ever won a title. And really, Bron scored as much in the second half of game 7 as safe did the whole game. Wade played very well in game 7, but he was no lebron.
wade made the hard plays, lebron hit wide open three pointers cuz they left him open since he was missing so many......yea, everyone needs help, but not every1 needs the help of a franchise player. this is a perfectly fine argument and to act like it's embarrassing is the only thing embarrassing.
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Pau is a softy euro but in his prime he was good for 20-10 when needed and fit perfectly in the triangle
still no HOFer
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Pau is a softy euro but in his prime he was good for 20-10 when needed and fit perfectly in the triangle
still no HOFer
pau was never a 20-10 guy in his entire career....bosh was, though.
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they don't teach reading at those private schools in woodland hills?
i said "good for" and "when needed"
and Bosh put up those stats on a crappy Toronto team...."when needed" by the Heat he scores 0 points in game 7
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they don't teach reading at those private schools in woodland hills?
i said "good for" and "when needed"
and Bosh put up those stats on a crappy Toronto team...."when needed" by the Heat he scores 0 points in game 7
pau only got 20-10 once in the last three playoffs as a Laker lmao. broken head shit.
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clutch as hell? i wouldnt go that far. the spurs game plan was to leave him open because of how bad he'd been shooting and he did what he was supposed to do by knockin down the open jumpers......still, wade played like a franchise player and thats what it took for lebron to win. it's like if kobe teamed up with durant and started winning 6-7-8 rings.. could u imagine how much shit he'd be eating from bspn and all the major sport outlets? lebron gets a pass cuz he's lebron...credit where credit is due, lebron is the champ, but he was far from spectacular in this series.
No, actually it's like Kobe teaming up with Pau Gasol. Or Kobe teaming up with Howard and Nash.
Nobody wins titles by themselves. Durant wasn't shit without Westbrook this year. Garnett had to team up with Pierece and Allen. Wade had to team up with Shaq. And so on. You're only playing the "what if game" and what could've or should've been when it comes to Lebron. Hence my comment before; Heat won, Spurs lost. That's all everybody is going to remember.
NIK is atraight embarrassing himself in this thread. Everyone needs help; I seem to remember Kobe missing two game winners, only to have Artest and Gasol "bail" him out. Fact is , no one guy has ever won a title. And really, Bron scored as much in the second half of game 7 as safe did the whole game. Wade played very well in game 7, but he was no lebron.
wade made the hard plays, lebron hit wide open three pointers cuz they left him open since he was missing so many......yea, everyone needs help, but not every1 needs the help of a franchise player. this is a perfectly fine argument and to act like it's embarrassing is the only thing embarrassing.
So Wade guarded Parker? So Wade played great in Game 6? The current version of Wade is not a franchise player. He's effective at times most definitely, but he was average or worse for much o the playoffs.
You know NIK, your act is passed its expiry date. I thjnk peeps on here were too hard on kobe back in the day, much of the time cuz they thjnk you are a joke, and you are jaded. Would you have given Wade the MVP? Bosh??
And anyone saying Gasol is a great player is clearly just trying to diminish Kobe's greatness, much like you are doing by embellishing Wades contributions. Most of the guys on here who debate in circles are actually pretty damn similar
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they don't teach reading at those private schools in woodland hills?
i said "good for" and "when needed"
and Bosh put up those stats on a crappy Toronto team...."when needed" by the Heat he scores 0 points in game 7
pau only got 20-10 once in the last three playoffs as a Laker lmao. broken head shit.
where did I say he averaged 20-10? eyebrow waxing jew shit 8)
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they don't teach reading at those private schools in woodland hills?
i said "good for" and "when needed"
and Bosh put up those stats on a crappy Toronto team...."when needed" by the Heat he scores 0 points in game 7
pau only got 20-10 once in the last three playoffs as a Laker lmao. broken head shit.
where did I say he averaged 20-10? eyebrow waxing jew shit 8)
where did i claim that u said he averaged that? public school in maine musta been brutal
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you keep bringing up his averages ::)
anyways back to the topic at hand....Lebron James is going to win his 3rd MVP next year and probably another ring next year too. then he'll leave Miami and go back to Cleveland to win a few titles with Irving by his side.
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sorry cuzz...ur love for the heat makes me queazy
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sorry cuzz...ur love for the heat makes me queazy
"Recognize the power of the royal King James" - LL Cool J
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Pau is a GREAT player
lmfaooooo...i think ima stop discussin with u.
kobe is a great player. michael jordan, magic johnson, larry bird are great players....pau is a borderline all-star and a GOOD second option, but to call pau a great player is pretty damn strange comin from someone who i would expect to know the difference between a great player and a good one.
Pau was a great player in a sense that he fit perfectly in Lakers game plan. He was exactly the type of player they needed. Also a very unselfish one. Pau in his primer on another team would have had a more "spectacular" statistic. But you and I both now that statistics don't show everything right?
And to answer your other post in another thread; I see no difference between teaming up with player that come to you, or teaming up by going somewhere. Teaming up is teaming up.
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And if you still wanna go statistical route:
Finals 2009: 18.6-9.2-1.8
Finals 2010: 18.6-11.6-2.6
Not to shabby for an only good player. Not to mention his FT% for a C is great, he even hits a 3 every now and then. Does he have the flashy statistics of a D.Howard? No. But who gives a fuck about that since Howard is a female with zero winner mentality. Pau knew when to step it up, he knew how to play in the best interest of the team, he knew how to fight and never give up.
Let's be clear, this is not an anti-Kobe post at all, this is a pro-Gasol post. People are quick to forget everything he did when he was ballin.
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Pau had a great run that year you guys beat my Celtics...I was never impressed with him in memphis nor LA those first 2 years. still no HOFer like Laker fans try to say.
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And if you still wanna go statistical route:
Finals 2009: 18.6-9.2-1.8
Finals 2010: 18.6-11.6-2.6
Not to shabby for an only good player. Not to mention his FT% for a C is great, he even hits a 3 every now and then. Does he have the flashy statistics of a D.Howard? No. But who gives a fuck about that since Howard is a female with zero winner mentality. Pau knew when to step it up, he knew how to play in the best interest of the team, he knew how to fight and never give up.
Let's be clear, this is not an anti-Kobe post at all, this is a pro-Gasol post. People are quick to forget everything he did when he was ballin.
pau was a nice complimentary piece, no doubt...but to call him great is a joke.
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Pau is a GREAT player
lmfaooooo...i think ima stop discussin with u.
kobe is a great player. michael jordan, magic johnson, larry bird are great players....pau is a borderline all-star and a GOOD second option, but to call pau a great player is pretty damn strange comin from someone who i would expect to know the difference between a great player and a good one.
Pau was a great player in a sense that he fit perfectly in Lakers game plan. He was exactly the type of player they needed. Also a very unselfish one. Pau in his primer on another team would have had a more "spectacular" statistic. But you and I both now that statistics don't show everything right?
And to answer your other post in another thread; I see no difference between teaming up with player that come to you, or teaming up by going somewhere. Teaming up is teaming up.
but running to a team with a franchise player who already won a championship as a finals mvp and getting pau gasol via trade is just a tad bit different, whether u see it or not LOL....kobe winning with pau as the 2nd option is equivalent to lebron winning with bosh as the 2nd option, which we all know would never happen.
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See, this bugs me. It really does.
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On top of the world miami heat world champs!! We the best, lakers couldn't do it and didn't even win 1 game against the spurs-we had to show yall how it was done! Steve nash is kicking himself in the balls right now for not signing that 1 year offer sheet we showed him last summer
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On top of the world miami heat world champs!! We the best, lakers couldn't do it and didn't even win 1 game against the spurs-we had to show yall how it was done! Steve nash is kicking himself in the balls right now for not signing that 1 year offer sheet we showed him last summer
yea spurs swept us minus kobe LOL
nash said all along he wanted to be in LA so he could be with family, not about title chasing
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you mean so Nash could avoid paying child support like Lyin Brian
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Lebron's new shoe is to die for: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/shooter-kills-robber-self-defense-while-waiting-line-215135252.html
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I've been busy lately so that's why I haven't posted on here. Plus my computer acts a fool on summertime a bunch >:( It's great that the birdman wins a title & the spurs lose. Glad they won the 1st 3 rounds, only cause I didn't like the attitudes of the grizzlies & warriors.
I hope this story don't get out cause it will give people another reason to hate miami as a sportstown. They're already 2nd worse, even b4 the fans left the arena & tried 2 get back in. Atlanta no.1 worst, So Cal 3rd, but then again so cal is a winners town.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/06/23/teen-hit-by-gunfire-finals.ap/index.html
Only fans that ever shot somebody during a championship celebration was a dumb bulls fan in the late 90's. And a donkeys fan in the late 90's also, killed an elderly woman with a shotgun blast >:(
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(http://worldredeye.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/4-Tina-Andersen-Jenine-Howard-Savannah-Brinson.jpg)
birdman's wife on the far left
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damn, she's purty
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its over 2nd best team in the nba, D wade is over soon as coach spo made that line up change and took mike miller out and put d wade in, spurs started packing the paint again. Shotty ref officiating and its been a great season its a wrap
Post of the year lol
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^lol heat fans never have faith in lebron....notice how unconfident they are before every game about whether he'll show up or not. then when the heat win, theyre the loudest mufuckaz on earth smh.
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anyone notice Shane Battier doing interviews at the draft? I wonder if he's gonna retire and work for BSPN
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so i predict the Heat either win a 3rd title in a row or lose in the playoffs and Lebron goes back to Cleveland after this season.
the problm is that what if the heat win 3 in a row...Bron is a free agent and might find himself behind a free agent after next year by going back to Cleveland to play aside Irving. The Cavs are still stupid for passing up on Nerlins.
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im still tryna figure out how a consensus first pick fell to number six
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its over 2nd best team in the nba, D wade is over soon as coach spo made that line up change and took mike miller out and put d wade in, spurs started packing the paint again. Shotty ref officiating and its been a great season its a wrap
Post of the year lol
Me and tim duncan thought they won- even the staff inside the building, radio'd to put up the yellow ropes haha i've seen many of nba games end in that way, but credit jesus shuttlesworth for hitting the most iconic shot of the finals. Miami Heat back to back champs! we aint got no worries 8)
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you got a choice... i can attack... or hit u wit the long range
but i never cap'n save a hoe like rayray did lebron james...
even nbatv thought it was over and aired a commercial for the spurs championship dvd package LOL
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so Lebron needed ray allen to save him by scoring 0 points in game 7?
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so Lebron needed ray allen to save him by scoring 0 points in game 7?
ima start callin u trollfail if u keep makin comments like this
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so Lebron needed ray allen to save him by scoring 0 points in game 7?
ima start callin u trollfail if u keep makin comments like this
Lebron scored 38
ray allen scored 0
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i wonder if the Heat can keep Birdman
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He'll be back.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1696426-key-stories-for-miami-heats-summer-league-team
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I wonder if the Heat trade Bosh...he can opt out after next year and his house is on the market
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just heard on fox sports radio that Birdman has resigned with Miami
good move for them, keep that team together and go for a 3rd straight title.
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so i predict the Heat either win a 3rd title in a row or lose in the playoffs and Lebron goes back to Cleveland after this season.
the problm is that what if the heat win 3 in a row...Bron is a free agent and might find himself behind a free agent after next year by going back to Cleveland to play aside Irving. The Cavs are still stupid for passing up on Nerlins.
I'll give a good reason why they probably passed on Nerlins. Greg Oden! Plus cleveland being a cursed city with their sports teams, especially with injuries. Its like god has a grudge against them kinda cursed :( They're also tired of not being in the playoffs. They wanna be a playoff team now. The city is fed up with their teams sucking.
I wonder if the Heat trade Bosh...he can opt out after next year and his house is on the market
Some say they should, some say they shouldn't. Shouldn't cause it would suck for Bosh. Should cause they might not get a 3rd straight title with the same roster. Other teams will change to beat them. A la Frisco 94 to get past Dallas to win SB 29 >:( Bulls with D. Rose might beat the heat, Pacers might.
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mike miller has been released, saving the heat 30 million over the next 2 years
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bye bye mike miller
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will Greg Oden choose the Heat or Spurs??
will he choose based on the offer?
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I think he goes to Miami. I think he saw how Bron made Birdman relevant and hopes the same for him. Plus he knows he more talented than Birdman, so he should fit in even better.
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Greg Oden to the heatles
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/03/deshawn-stevenson-wants-to-play-for-the-miami-heat/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
hahahahahahaha
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/03/deshawn-stevenson-wants-to-play-for-the-miami-heat/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
hahahahahahaha
Man, I was gonna post that topic on here. Looks like karma for DeScrub Stevenson. Who's overrated now?! :D If you can't beat em, join em!
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elano wants chris bosh's dick venom
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i'm sorta surprised Mo Williams didn't sign with the Heat. Lebron's the only guy who has made him relevant in his entire NBA career.
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i'm sorta surprised Mo Williams didn't sign with the Heat. Lebron's the only guy who has made him relevant in his entire NBA career.
He doesn't really fit the system though. He's more streaky than pure shooter.
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elano wants mo williams to give him a hot beef injection
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btw cham Mo would be a nice bench player...a 7th or 8th guy. but Miami is still kinda stacked now.
that bench is looking nice...if Ray Allen were only a few years younger he'd be a legit 6th man of the year. Hell, even now he's better than at least 2/3 of the NBA's teams '6th man'
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Chalmers...Cole
Wade...Allen
James...Battier
Bosh...Birdman
Oden...Anthony...Birdman
I'm pretty pumped for October.
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Chalmers...Cole
Wade...Allen
James...Battier
Bosh...Birdman
Oden...Anthony...Birdman
I'm pretty pumped for October.
UR TEAMS LOOKIN NICE, CANT DENY IT
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Lol. Not my team.
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I BELIEVE U
JK
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Lebron takes Larry Bird over Magic
smart dude 8)
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uppp
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heat > lakers
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in fact i bet the heat finish with a better record than the lakers :laugh:
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did you hear lebron's mom is dating some rapper?
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Lebron's already getting asked about free agency
i predict he'll join the Cavs or the Knicks if the Knicks buy out or trade Amare
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/heat-bring-back-michael-beasley-205854611--nba.html
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I hope beasley will get his act 2gether now. He could get a ring outta this. And not be another jr rider who chose 2 be wasted space. Fool couldn't get his act 2gether with the lakers. And lakers are 1 of these teams, if you won't straighten up with them, you won't do it 4 nobody.
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Spoe signs mult-year extension.
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Spoe signs mult-year extension.
best coach in the game besides Doc and Pops
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Gotta respect him.
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Gotta respect him.
a lot more than D'antoni
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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/18463/how-special-is-the-miami-heat-bench
Miami's gonna be killer next year. 3 peat is inevitable.
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miami is 1-2
they are doomed
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lebron is a joke...anybody watchin the games? ol' stat collectin ass mufucka. he should pay all of last years salary to ray allen.
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yes, because Ray Allen did so much in game 7 right?
(OMG BUT RAY ALLEN GOT THEM TO OT IN GAME 6)
so what? Lebron got them to the finals to begin with while Ray Ray was along for the ride.
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because if it wasnt for that ray allen three, lebron would be known right now as nothin more but the biggest choke-artist in sports history...that is all
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and how is that?
it's pretty hard to supplant the 1990-1993 buffalo bills as biggest choke artists, but please tell me your logic
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and how is that?
it's pretty hard to supplant the 1990-1993 buffalo bills as biggest choke artists, but please tell me your logic
because had ray allen missed that three, lebron would once again have failed to lead his team to the promise land with another terrible finals outing, in which he underperfromed, and that brings his record to 1-4 in the NBA Finals....that three saved his entire career. i mean, the truth always gets exposed eventually, but now we gunna have to deal with lebron being over-glorified for yet another season SMH
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so Lebron taking a team to the finals and losing in 6 games is the biggest choke of all time?
what about the 03-04 Lakers losing in the finals to the Pistons in less games?
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so Lebron taking a team to the finals and losing in 6 games is the biggest choke of all time?
what about the 03-04 Lakers losing in the finals to the Pistons in less games?
lebron woulda been 1-4 in the finals witout that ray allen three. that is all
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so how is that the biggest choke of all time? what about chris webber's entire career? or John Starks in game 7 against the Rockets? how about Dan Marino in the superbowl? or the Colts in superbowl 3 against Joe Namath and the Jets? or the 1980 Russian hockey team losing to a bunch of college USA kids.
don't let your hatred of Lebron allow you to make stupid statements about choke jobs. if it wasn't for Lebron miami doesn't win game 7...ray allen did nothing that game.
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what about chris webber's entire career? or John Starks in game 7 against the Rockets? how about Dan Marino in the superbowl? or the Colts in superbowl 3 against Joe Namath and the Jets? or the 1980 Russian hockey team losing to a bunch of college USA kids.
yup...thats who we gotta compare lebron to
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except for the fact Lebron is a 2 time champion and 4 time MVP
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so Lebron taking a team to the finals and losing in 6 games is the biggest choke of all time?
what about the 03-04 Lakers losing in the finals to the Pistons in less games?
lebron woulda been 1-4 in the finals witout that ray allen three. that is all
Where would Kobe and Shaq be without this play. (with Chick Hearns calling the play)
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZA-o3uALst8?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
Did Kobe really almost choke away the game with that missed layup? And Shaq with that missed put back?
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so Lebron taking a team to the finals and losing in 6 games is the biggest choke of all time?
what about the 03-04 Lakers losing in the finals to the Pistons in less games?
lebron woulda been 1-4 in the finals witout that ray allen three. that is all
Where would Kobe and Shaq be without this play. (with Chick Hearns calling the play)
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZA-o3uALst8?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
Did Kobe really almost choke away the game with that missed layup? And Shaq with that missed put back?
Thing is, Kobe and shaq weren't letting the team down for the entire series up until that point .. Horrible example by the closet laker hater lol
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lol, niggas always got the excuse when it gets flipped back on him. That kind of struggle just makes it so difficult to talk sports on this forum lol.
Fisher & Horry were known as clutch niggas on that team. It's disrespectful to Laker history to not acknowledge their late game contributions were VITAL to the threepeat.
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
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Well neither had a Game 7 like LeBron. So I guess there are no parallels.
& it's not that he loves going against the Lakers. Your bias drives people to not even want to show slight homerism anymore.
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Well neither had a Game 7 like LeBron. So I guess there are no parallels.
& it's not that he loves going against the Lakers. Your bias drives people to not even want to show slight homerism anymore.
of course a lebron fan is gunna say he aint goin against the lakers lmao...he'd get crucified for posting those typa comments on a lakers forum where real laker fans post
and my point was that had ray allen missed that three, lebron is exposed as the greatest choke in sports history. that is all...if horry misses that three, there is no such consequence for kobe or shaq. game 7 was nice, but it doesnt change the fact that he played bad in more games than he played good.
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Well neither had a Game 7 like LeBron. So I guess there are no parallels.
& it's not that he loves going against the Lakers. Your bias drives people to not even want to show slight homerism anymore.
of course a lebron fan is gunna say he aint goin against the lakers lmao...he'd get crucified for posting those typa comments on a lakers forum where real laker fans post
and my point was that had ray allen missed that three, lebron is exposed as the greatest choke in sports history. that is all...if horry misses that three, there is no such consequence for kobe or shaq. game 7 was nice, but it doesnt change the fact that he played bad in more games than he played good.
You're the only one who sees it that way though.
*Waits for quotes from fellow Lakers fans*
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know what's a choke job? Being a team that allows Ray Allen to hit a 3 and then losing in OT. and then letting Lebron destroy them in game 7.
tim duncan missing a basic shot...that's choking to me.
meanwhile Lebron is going for a three-peat this year and I say there's a 51% chance that happens.
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know what's a choke job? Being a team that allows Ray Allen to hit a 3 and then losing in OT. and then letting Lebron destroy them in game 7.
tim duncan missing a basic shot...that's choking to me.
meanwhile Lebron is going for a three-peat this year and I say there's a 51% chance that happens.
spurs definitely choked...most notably, greg popavich. but it doesnt change what i said.
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Well neither had a Game 7 like LeBron. So I guess there are no parallels.
& it's not that he loves going against the Lakers. Your bias drives people to not even want to show slight homerism anymore.
of course a lebron fan is gunna say he aint goin against the lakers lmao...he'd get crucified for posting those typa comments on a lakers forum where real laker fans post
and my point was that had ray allen missed that three, lebron is exposed as the greatest choke in sports history. that is all...if horry misses that three, there is no such consequence for kobe or shaq. game 7 was nice, but it doesnt change the fact that he played bad in more games than he played good.
You're the only one who sees it that way though.
*Waits for quotes from fellow Lakers fans*
right...because the entire world wasnt questioning lebron going into game 6 LOL
casual nba fans are fickle...if that ray allen three doesnt go down, lebron is 1-4 in the finals, rated 95 on nba2k, and is known first and foremost as a regular season phenom who underperforms in the post-season
just give ray allen his props for changing the mind-set of an entire planet, cuz u know it's true
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i wonder what your excuse will be after Lebron and the Heat win another title this year.
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jeff green shows lebron and d-wade how it's done ;D
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jeff green shows lebron and d-wade how it's done ;D
dont act like u didnt cry when that 3 went down
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Wade blew it.
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
I love when you mention your Lakers nerd site where you are the oldest one and every sends love letters to Kobe. I call them as I see them, and well Laker fans hate Magic, he makes so many good points and is usually correct. But you call Magic a hater, I call him my favorite Laker of all time.
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
I love when you mention your Lakers nerd site where you are the oldest one and every sends love letters to Kobe. I call them as I see them, and well Laker fans hate Magic, he makes so many good points and is usually correct. But you call Magic a hater, I call him my favorite Laker of all time.
IM THE OLDEST ONE? LOL FUNNY U SAY THAT WHEN UR 10 YEARS OLDER THAN ME......BUT NAAH, THERE ARE LITERALLY 60+ YEAR OLDS ON LAKERSGROUND. IT'S A HIGHLY REGARDED SITE, NOT A RAP FORUM FROM EUROPE.. U GOT INSIDERS POSTIN ON THAT MUFUCKA. SHIT, ARTEST'S BROTHER USED TO POST ON THAT FORUM WITH NEWS UPDATE. LOL@U SOUNDIN LIKE A HEAT FAN ONCE AGAIN, CALLIN A LAKERS FORUM A "NERD SITE" SMFH
AND MAGIC IS KNOWN TO BE A COMPANY YES-MAN...IF U SAY HE MAKES MANY GOOD POINTS, IT MAKES SENSE WHY UR RETARDED.LORD KNOWS, I LOVE MAGIC, BUT DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ANALYST AND A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL SHOW U THAT MOST CREDIBLE BASKETBALL FANS FEEL THE SAME. ACTUALLY, JUST TYPE IN "MAGIC JOHNSON TERRIBLE" IN GOOGLE AND SEE WHAT COMES UP LMAO.
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
I love when you mention your Lakers nerd site where you are the oldest one and every sends love letters to Kobe. I call them as I see them, and well Laker fans hate Magic, he makes so many good points and is usually correct. But you call Magic a hater, I call him my favorite Laker of all time.
IM THE OLDEST ONE? LOL FUNNY U SAY THAT WHEN UR 10 YEARS OLDER THAN ME......BUT NAAH, THERE ARE LITERALLY 60+ YEAR OLDS ON LAKERSGROUND. IT'S A HIGHLY REGARDED SITE, NOT A RAP FORUM FROM EUROPE.. U GOT INSIDERS POSTIN ON THAT MUFUCKA. SHIT, ARTEST'S BROTHER USED TO POST ON THAT FORUM WITH NEWS UPDATE. LOL@U SOUNDIN LIKE A HEAT FAN ONCE AGAIN, CALLIN A LAKERS FORUM A "NERD SITE" SMFH
AND MAGIC IS KNOWN TO BE A COMPANY YES-MAN...IF U SAY HE MAKES MANY GOOD POINTS, IT MAKES SENSE WHY UR RETARDED.LORD KNOWS, I LOVE MAGIC, BUT DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ANALYST AND A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL SHOW U THAT MOST CREDIBLE BASKETBALL FANS FEEL THE SAME. ACTUALLY, JUST TYPE IN "MAGIC JOHNSON TERRIBLE" IN GOOGLE AND SEE WHAT COMES UP LMAO.
Company yes man, to who? The Dodgers now.
I call it a bunch of nerds because if they believe the stuff you spew and think your such a great Laker fan for it, then they have to be nerds. Howard is better than Bynum, Not getting ANYTHING back for Howard once you got him, just continuing on with the same script when Kobe is retiring soon. Man, you need to wake up and see that the Lakers can keep Kobe, but they need to get younger, they need to get better and over the years Kobe and Shaq, and Magic, and all of them choked too. I actually have very little problems with the way you praise the Lakers, I have a few, but not many. What I have issues with is that you have one of the greatest players ever and you act like LeBron isn't worthy to be in his spot. Now don't get me wrong, if the NBA was tougher on PEDS, I am 55% sure he'd test positive and 45% sure he'd find a way to pass the test by cheating. But until you can prove he's cheated, you have to just accept his place and history. And maybe it's my experience with Jordan as the top player in the 90's, but I am okay with the top player NOT being a Laker. I don't care who the top player is, as long as the Lakers have the best team. Sucking Kobe's dick doesn't mean you're a good Laker fan.
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jeff green shows lebron and d-wade how it's done ;D
dont act like u didnt cry when that 3 went down
::)
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jeff green shows lebron and d-wade how it's done ;D
dont act like u didnt cry when that 3 went down
::)
lol rolling eyes, how frank ocean
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
I love when you mention your Lakers nerd site where you are the oldest one and every sends love letters to Kobe. I call them as I see them, and well Laker fans hate Magic, he makes so many good points and is usually correct. But you call Magic a hater, I call him my favorite Laker of all time.
IM THE OLDEST ONE? LOL FUNNY U SAY THAT WHEN UR 10 YEARS OLDER THAN ME......BUT NAAH, THERE ARE LITERALLY 60+ YEAR OLDS ON LAKERSGROUND. IT'S A HIGHLY REGARDED SITE, NOT A RAP FORUM FROM EUROPE.. U GOT INSIDERS POSTIN ON THAT MUFUCKA. SHIT, ARTEST'S BROTHER USED TO POST ON THAT FORUM WITH NEWS UPDATE. LOL@U SOUNDIN LIKE A HEAT FAN ONCE AGAIN, CALLIN A LAKERS FORUM A "NERD SITE" SMFH
AND MAGIC IS KNOWN TO BE A COMPANY YES-MAN...IF U SAY HE MAKES MANY GOOD POINTS, IT MAKES SENSE WHY UR RETARDED.LORD KNOWS, I LOVE MAGIC, BUT DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ANALYST AND A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL SHOW U THAT MOST CREDIBLE BASKETBALL FANS FEEL THE SAME. ACTUALLY, JUST TYPE IN "MAGIC JOHNSON TERRIBLE" IN GOOGLE AND SEE WHAT COMES UP LMAO.
Company yes man, to who? The Dodgers now.
I call it a bunch of nerds because if they believe the stuff you spew and think your such a great Laker fan for it, then they have to be nerds. Howard is better than Bynum, Not getting ANYTHING back for Howard once you got him, just continuing on with the same script when Kobe is retiring soon. Man, you need to wake up and see that the Lakers can keep Kobe, but they need to get younger, they need to get better and over the years Kobe and Shaq, and Magic, and all of them choked too. I actually have very little problems with the way you praise the Lakers, I have a few, but not many. What I have issues with is that you have one of the greatest players ever and you act like LeBron isn't worthy to be in his spot. Now don't get me wrong, if the NBA was tougher on PEDS, I am 55% sure he'd test positive and 45% sure he'd find a way to pass the test by cheating. But until you can prove he's cheated, you have to just accept his place and history. And maybe it's my experience with Jordan as the top player in the 90's, but I am okay with the top player NOT being a Laker. I don't care who the top player is, as long as the Lakers have the best team. Sucking Kobe's dick doesn't mean you're a good Laker fan.
an espn comparny yes-man
did u type "magic johnson terrible" in google and see what other words pop up after terrible? now try "magic johnson hates"
LOL
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ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT KOBE AND SHAQ WERE BEASTING THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SERIES BEFORE THE HORRY THREE, NOT CHOKING THE ENTIRE SERIES ALA LEBRON PRIOR TO THE RAY ALLEN THREE...
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S A FACT
MDOGG JUST LOVES GOIN AGAINST THE LAKERS...U'D BE CAUGHT DEAD FINDIN SOME1 ON LAKERSGROUND TRYNA DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN KOBE/SHAQ'S PERFORMANCES TO LEBRON'S LOL
I love when you mention your Lakers nerd site where you are the oldest one and every sends love letters to Kobe. I call them as I see them, and well Laker fans hate Magic, he makes so many good points and is usually correct. But you call Magic a hater, I call him my favorite Laker of all time.
IM THE OLDEST ONE? LOL FUNNY U SAY THAT WHEN UR 10 YEARS OLDER THAN ME......BUT NAAH, THERE ARE LITERALLY 60+ YEAR OLDS ON LAKERSGROUND. IT'S A HIGHLY REGARDED SITE, NOT A RAP FORUM FROM EUROPE.. U GOT INSIDERS POSTIN ON THAT MUFUCKA. SHIT, ARTEST'S BROTHER USED TO POST ON THAT FORUM WITH NEWS UPDATE. LOL@U SOUNDIN LIKE A HEAT FAN ONCE AGAIN, CALLIN A LAKERS FORUM A "NERD SITE" SMFH
AND MAGIC IS KNOWN TO BE A COMPANY YES-MAN...IF U SAY HE MAKES MANY GOOD POINTS, IT MAKES SENSE WHY UR RETARDED.LORD KNOWS, I LOVE MAGIC, BUT DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ANALYST AND A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL SHOW U THAT MOST CREDIBLE BASKETBALL FANS FEEL THE SAME. ACTUALLY, JUST TYPE IN "MAGIC JOHNSON TERRIBLE" IN GOOGLE AND SEE WHAT COMES UP LMAO.
Company yes man, to who? The Dodgers now.
I call it a bunch of nerds because if they believe the stuff you spew and think your such a great Laker fan for it, then they have to be nerds. Howard is better than Bynum, Not getting ANYTHING back for Howard once you got him, just continuing on with the same script when Kobe is retiring soon. Man, you need to wake up and see that the Lakers can keep Kobe, but they need to get younger, they need to get better and over the years Kobe and Shaq, and Magic, and all of them choked too. I actually have very little problems with the way you praise the Lakers, I have a few, but not many. What I have issues with is that you have one of the greatest players ever and you act like LeBron isn't worthy to be in his spot. Now don't get me wrong, if the NBA was tougher on PEDS, I am 55% sure he'd test positive and 45% sure he'd find a way to pass the test by cheating. But until you can prove he's cheated, you have to just accept his place and history. And maybe it's my experience with Jordan as the top player in the 90's, but I am okay with the top player NOT being a Laker. I don't care who the top player is, as long as the Lakers have the best team. Sucking Kobe's dick doesn't mean you're a good Laker fan.
an espn comparny yes-man
did u type "magic johnson terrible" in google and see what other words pop up after terrible? now try "magic johnson hates"
LOL
Magic is known for being hard on everyone. He's one of those guys that can critic someone's game down to where your toes are. And he's such a company man that ESPN fired him. Really it's because fans caught feelings for their favorite player getting put on blast. But he was almost always correct. He was correct about Ricky Rubio when people were worried about Rubio not being able to adjust to the US game and Magic said his game was more suited for the US than Europe. He was correct about the Lakers and their chances. Magic is usually right more times than wrong, and just because you and a bunch of other Stans don't like the truth, doesn't mean that Magic is terrible. Though I will say, for as great as a basketball mind as he is, he still sounds straight out of Detroit many times, and that was hard to listen to. But the knowledge he spits was almost always correct.
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Tell me he is wrong on these points.
http://www.youtube.com/v/J1YpRFxzptQ?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/D9XTgugALpk?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/wk4RsGjcJ1o?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
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Tell me he is wrong on these points.
http://www.youtube.com/v/D9XTgugALpk?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
I mean, he's clearly wrong here. He compared LeBron to himself...which would put a flaw in every single NIK argument ever.
BSPN!!!
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Tell me he is wrong on these points.
http://www.youtube.com/v/J1YpRFxzptQ?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
i agree with this, but to see him say "i dont believe in jim buss" publicly like that proves to me that he has a personal issue.. why? because he knows the buss family personally, and it's not like he's just another analyst...so for him to go out on espn and say "i dont believe in jim buss" means theres definitely some ill feeling between him and the laker organization. maybe he wanted a larger role in ownership? maybe he's bitter that kobe is considered the GOAT laker? i duno, but what i do know is that magic johnson is undeniably over critical of anything laker related.
http://www.youtube.com/v/D9XTgugALpk?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
comparing lebron to himself is blasphemy...i see what he's saying, but lebron has nowhere near the court vision of magic. but yea, he is more like magic in a sense that he's pass first, and thats where it ends.
http://www.youtube.com/v/wk4RsGjcJ1o?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
what i learned from this is that lebron got bronx cheers from the heat fans at the end of game 6....lmfao i never knew that. bronx cheers for ur star player at the tail end of a finals series, what does that tell u about lebron?
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what does it tell you about Miami fans?
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what does it tell you about Miami fans?
miami retired michael jordan's jersey...pretty sure if they had michael jordan, he wouldnt be getting bronx cheers at the end of a finals series.
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game 6 wasn't the end...game 7 was
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game 6 wasn't the end...game 7 was
coulda been the end...and had it been the end, lebron was finna go out 2 bronx cheers.
when u ever heard of magic, michael, kobe goin out to bronx cheers? come on, now. there aint no thin line between choke-artist and closer....the guy choked and was given a second chance. if heat make it to the finals again, u will once again see him get nervous and buckle, probably fail to reach 20 points in the first few games etc etc we are who we are.
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DOESN'T HAVE THE COURT VISION OF MAGIC! LOL.
I will give you this, you make it impossible to ignore you. It just gets more ridiculous by the hour.
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DOESN'T HAVE THE COURT VISION OF MAGIC! LOL.
are u trying to say this is a ridiculous claim? cuz if so, lmfao
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DOESN'T HAVE THE COURT VISION OF MAGIC! LOL.
are u trying to say this is a ridiculous claim? cuz if so, lmfao
Unless you're willing to defend your ridiculous claim outside of saying "my Laker-vision, LeBron hating goggle eye test & biased ass Laker-fanboy forum says....".
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DOESN'T HAVE THE COURT VISION OF MAGIC! LOL.
are u trying to say this is a ridiculous claim? cuz if so, lmfao
Unless you're willing to defend your ridiculous claim outside of saying "my Laker-vision, LeBron hating goggle eye test & biased ass Laker-fanboy forum says....".
answer the question...do u think lebron is even half as good a passer, teammate, leader etc. as magic? do u really believe his court-vision is anywhere close to the greatest point guard in basketball history? cuz if so, ur love for lebron is even stronger than i thought.
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It's a very subjective thing. But I'll take Magic's word himself that Bron does.
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game 6 wasn't the end...game 7 was
coulda been the end...and had it been the end, lebron was finna go out 2 bronx cheers.
when u ever heard of magic, michael, kobe goin out to bronx cheers? come on, now. there aint no thin line between choke-artist and closer....the guy choked and was given a second chance. if heat make it to the finals again, u will once again see him get nervous and buckle, probably fail to reach 20 points in the first few games etc etc we are who we are.
and jessie jackson could have ran for president. but he didn't.
ted williams got boo'd all the time by Boston fans.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/t3M0MrYpObs?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
"[Kobe] could go down as the greatest Laker" - Magic Johnson
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It's a very subjective thing. But I'll take Magic's word himself that Bron does.
show me where he says "lebron's court vision is as good as mine"
lol
all magic said is that lebron is more like him than michael...which is true. he's more of a pass-first player, no doubt...but he's not nearly as good a passer as magic and not nearly as good a scorer as michael. and thats why he's a tier under 'em....if u can find me someone, anyone that says "lebron's passing skill is equivalent to magic's" i will give u this W.....but we all know that aint never happenin
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It's so biased and nostalgic it holds no weight, man.
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It's so biased and nostalgic it holds no weight, man.
stop beating around the bush and start addressing my points
do u really think some1 out there believes lebron's passing/court-vision is comparable to magic's?
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Absolutely comparable. How isn't he comparable?
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Absolutely comparable. How isn't he comparable?
ur a numbers guy, right?
11.2 > 6.9
lol
stop embarrassing urself
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Absolutely comparable. How isn't he comparable?
ur a numbers guy, right?
11.2 > 6.9
lol
stop embarrassing urself
And he didn't average 20 PPG in his career. What's your point? Magic was the point guard of that team. LeBron is the small forward of the Heat lmao.
LeBron is known for his amazing passing ability. Now you're just trolling too hard.
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Absolutely comparable. How isn't he comparable?
ur a numbers guy, right?
11.2 > 6.9
lol
stop embarrassing urself
And he didn't average 20 PPG in his career. What's your point? Magic was the point guard of that team. LeBron is the small forward of the Heat lmao.
LeBron is known for his amazing passing ability. Now you're just trolling too hard.
the point is that lebron is nowhere the passer magic johnson is, and thats why magic is a point guard and lebron is not...it's quite simple, and i think ud have 2 be straight up dumb 2 sincerely call that trolling
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You're alone, fam.
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Absolutely comparable. How isn't he comparable?
ur a numbers guy, right?
11.2 > 6.9
lol
stop embarrassing urself
And he didn't average 20 PPG in his career. What's your point? Magic was the point guard of that team. LeBron is the small forward of the Heat lmao.
LeBron is known for his amazing passing ability. Now you're just trolling too hard.
the point is that lebron is nowhere the passer magic johnson is, and thats why magic is a point guard and lebron is not...it's quite simple, and i think ud have 2 be straight up dumb 2 sincerely call that trolling
I think LeBron is not a point guard because he is a really good point forward. Here is the problem with comparing players in the past to players today, they don't compare. No point guard will ever be Magic, and be that tall and have that court vision, no shooting guard will ever be Jordan, though Kobe is close. No small forward will ever be Bird, Dr. J, or LeBron and those players don't compare to each other. No power forward will be Karl Malone, or KG, or Moses Malone. No center will be Shaq, Russell, Wilt, Kareem and all those players were different from each other. Each great player is different and they bring something new to the game.
Now is LeBron closer to Magic's game, yes, they are cut from the same cloth. Both really tall passers who changed the game with their physical gifts. The difference, Magic actually played point guard on a fast break team and LeBron plays small forward on a team he's expected to be the lead scorer of. They just ended up with different roles on different teams with different ways of using their gifts. Kobe/Jordan comparisons are rare between two great players, mainly because both had the same head coach but even Phil used them differently. Phil used Jordan as his "center" as the person playing center was there just to clean up the triangle, while Kobe was used more as a slasher and spot shooter in the triangle. But the end was both being the main ball carrier, just Jordan caught the ball from Scottie and Kobe got the ball after Fisher dumped it into Gasol first. But Jordan/Kobe comparison is rare. LeBron learned the NBA under Mike Brown, Magic Johnson under Paul Westhead and later Pat Riley. Westhead was not afraid to use Magic in all positions, Brown mainly kept LeBron at SF. Under Riley, the Lakers became a huge fast break team, Brown on the other hand focused on defense so LeBron's offense was more of a find it yourself type deal. So both players came up very differently and thus it's hard to truly compare. The difference in the game then and now also has to be taken to consideration. Now the defenses are better and big men are mainly only for defense. So it becomes harder to score and there is more focus on half court games. On the flip side Magic played in a league that was more physical and you had many dominate big men, so the idea was to push the ball and out run everyone. So well many can see the similarities of their physical attributes and their natural game, they played different due to eras under different systems. Therefore you can't just say, this man had more assist or this man had more points.
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You're alone, fam.
if u think im alone in sayin magic is a way better passer than lebron, then u flat out delusional
think will b saying "same day different shit" = "streetz is a mutha"
thats the sorta weight that opinion holds in the real world
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There's nothing but nostalgia in saying that though. He's a pass first player and highly recognized as one of the greatest passers with an ABSURD IQ.
I'm not sitting here saying he's head and shoulders, night and day a better passer than Magic, but undoubtedly in the same conversation.
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I'm not sitting here saying he's head and shoulders, night and day a better passer than Magic, but undoubtedly in the same conversation.
lmfao, i'm done
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6. Tim Hardaway 2252
7. LeBron James 2246
Lebron James is 6 field goals away from passing Tim Hardaway in Miami Heat history for 6th place.
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lebron with the game winner...where is nik?
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Lebron beat Cleveland yesterday in Cleveland pretty easily. 28, 8 and 8.
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I wonder if the Heat will trade Wade to keep Lebron
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I wonder if the Heat will trade Wade to keep Lebron
They said they're looking to trade for a guard. Not trade Wade for another guard lol.
No way they trade Wade. It would be like the Lakers trading Kobe.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10088748/miami-heat-talk-trade-dwyane-wade-out
your favorite sports network ;)
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lebron is miami's kobe now, not wade...wouldnt be surprised to see him traded
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http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10088748/miami-heat-talk-trade-dwyane-wade-out
your favorite sports network ;)
Nowhere in that link does it even hint at Wade being the piece getting traded lol. They're weak at the position, why would you trade one of the best SG's for an inferior SG? Not to mention, what kind of value would you get back for an injury nagged Wade?
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10154738&categoryid=2378529
Terrifying numbers.
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Up
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"Potential" playoff lineup?
Mario...Cole
Wade...Ray
LeBron...Beasley...Battier
Bosh...Haslem
Oden...BYNUM...Andersen
;D
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lol@ODEN STARTING OVER BYNUM
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lol @ either of those guys playing a minute...crippled bums
spurs @ heat is on right now... good watch 8)
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got blown out by okc the other night
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Vegas has it set up right.
They'll spend the season being that "Whoa...I don't know if they're the same!" team. Then when all the money goes against them, Bron three peats.
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Clipper fans were rooting for Lebron hardcore the other night
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that's cuz clipper fans are all bandwagon fans...Miami heat fans on steroids
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so Lebron hits a game winner and NIK just gonna ignore it??
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bron is raping them hoes tonight
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My dude is coming for that MVP.
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i know NIK is gonna have some excuse for Lebron beasting in that first half...right now he's praying to the jewish allah that the Heat fold in the 2nd half lol
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Clipper fans were rooting for Lebron hardcore the other night
As I said before, many Clipper fans I know were Bulls fans in the 90's and Cavs fans in the 2000's. They only started cheering for the Clippers when they had a local alternative to the Lakers.
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and now they have a legit contender
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and now they have a legit contender
Yep, and all my friends who wanted to be Mike have Lop City everywhere?
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they should def go by the Clip show. that's a lot doper.
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Clipper fans were rooting for Lebron hardcore the other night
As I said before, many Clipper fans I know were Bulls fans in the 90's and Cavs fans in the 2000's. They only started cheering for the Clippers when they had a local alternative to the Lakers.
Lol the idea of just jumping through teams like that annoys the hell out of me. Part of it's probably cause of the fact that my own team got taken away, but picking your "team" cause of performance is straight chump.
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Clipper fans were rooting for Lebron hardcore the other night
As I said before, many Clipper fans I know were Bulls fans in the 90's and Cavs fans in the 2000's. They only started cheering for the Clippers when they had a local alternative to the Lakers.
Lol the idea of just jumping through teams like that annoys the hell out of me. Part of it's probably cause of the fact that my own team got taken away, but picking your "team" cause of performance is straight chump.
Hey, that's Clippers fans for you.
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lol@clipshow ....very original
i knew the heat were guna win yesterday...they wanted/needed it more. thats what happens.
westbrook's rust didn't help much either
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Westbrook played fine
OKC just ran into a better team. Lebron was in the zone to start off both halfs and OKC couldn't play from behind.
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Westbrook played fine
dumbass
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Westbrook played fine
dumbass
says the guy who thinks Melo is better than Lebron? ::)
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Westbrook played fine
dumbass
says the guy who thinks Melo is better than Lebron? ::)
i dont think that...but u do think prime garnett is close to prime kobe lmao. slap yaself
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KG > Kobe
Kobe had better longevity and sure doesn't mind taking more shots per game. KG at his best was still better as a player and a team mate.
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how many titles was garnett able to win as a first option?
and then dumbass mietek comes at ME sideways with u makin comments like that lmfao
sports section...never change
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those minnesota teams sucked ass and you know it.
Now I Know = Now I Troll
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those minnesota teams sucked ass and you know it.
Now I Know = Now I Troll
LOL THAT 58 WIN SAM CASELL, WALLY SCZCERBIAK, LATRELL SPREWELL, KEVIN GARNETT WOLVES TEAM THAT WENT TO THE WCF WERE DOPE AND U KNOW IT
HE ONLY WON AS A 2ND/3RD OPTION....FACE FACTS BRU
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Clipper fans were rooting for Lebron hardcore the other night
As I said before, many Clipper fans I know were Bulls fans in the 90's and Cavs fans in the 2000's. They only started cheering for the Clippers when they had a local alternative to the Lakers.
Lol the idea of just jumping through teams like that annoys the hell out of me. Part of it's probably cause of the fact that my own team got taken away, but picking your "team" cause of performance is straight chump.
Hey, that's Clippers fans for you.
Makes me like them a lot less. Nothing like rewarding bandwagon fans.
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those minnesota teams sucked ass and you know it.
Now I Know = Now I Troll
LOL THAT 58 WIN SAM CASELL, WALLY SCZCERBIAK, LATRELL SPREWELL, KEVIN GARNETT WOLVES TEAM THAT WENT TO THE WCF WERE DOPE AND U KNOW IT
oh yes, that was a legendary squad ::)
there's a reason Spreewell wasn't wanted by any NBA teams when he faked retirement. KG never had the team mates to make a playoff run any other year and he was right to leave for Boston. He beasted with us.
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Chris Bosh was holdin it down tonight
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wonder if Bron plays thursday
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Lebron with a smooth 31 points tonight
he'll be passing Kareem in no time
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-chris-bosh-lebron-james-mask-20140228,0,3671106.story#axzz2uaWaGnwl
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69% of people voting on ESPN.com said they liked or loved the black mask Lebron was wearing (out of 132,000 voters)
yet the gay NBA is making him get rid of it cuz they're lames.
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(http://www.howtomakeit.com/wp-content/uploads/Kobe-Bryant-Black-Mask-2-290x290.jpg)
i wonder where he got the idea
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class act
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10547325/lebron-james-wants-attend-zydrunas-ilgauskas-jersey-retirement-cleveland
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I think LeBron just proved he's not human. Holy shit. GOAT.
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I think LeBron just proved he's not human. Holy shit. GOAT.
1-yes, he's human
2-he's the best player on the planet, even if this forums own moderator somehow thinks he's not a top 2 player in the NBA :-\
3-Al Jefferson has 36 and 19...not bad for my man. ex C.
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8/10 from the 3 point line
that is not too shabby
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lebron was 22/33
that's dope as fuck considering the 3's he took
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WHAT WAS HIS CAREER HIGH BEFORE THIS? I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT IT WAS AT LEAST 65 OR SOME SHIT
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56
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I had no idea that my man Glen Rice held the previous Heat scoring record
I assumed D-wade or Alonzo would have owned the record, go figure.
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he got waxed by the texas twosome this week (Rockets and Spurs)
boy, that Rockets/Clippers vs Heat NBA finals is looking pretty good about now ;D
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LMAO LEBRON IS CLAIMIN THAT THE HEAT LOST BECAUSE HE'S TIRED FROM THE 61 POINT GAME AND BECAUSE HIS SHIRT WAS TOO TIGHT
CLASSIC
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the week Wilt scored 100 he also had two 30 point games
can't play on a 61 ppg level every night
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KOBE ONCE SCORED 50+ POINTS IN 4 STRAIGHT GAMES (NBA RECORD) 8)
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chicago miami
eastern conf finals preview right here folks
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wow, what an ugly game :D
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Noah is ballin his ass off
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lebron says he'll look at the Knicks next year bc they got Phil lmao
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hewt beat houston
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not bad
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489876
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Rondo with 9 points, 10 rebounds and 15 assists over Miami
best PG in the NBA 8)
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niko thinks he can dribble the ball better than rajon rondo :D
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Lebron is schooling Paul George right now
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pacers>heat
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Yeah because a 1 point victory on a missed game winner, at home with Ray Allen out proves that for sure.
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For sure
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Heat - Clippers final is gonna be da bomb
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I wouldn't be shocked if Spurs, Thunder, Rockets, Clippers, Warriors or even Portland made the Finals out of the West.
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miami and indiana both seem to want the other one to be the #1 seed
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I wouldn't be shocked if Spurs, Thunder, Rockets, Clippers, Warriors or even Portland made the Finals out of the West.
LOL PORTLAND AND HOUSTON DONT STAND A CHANCE
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the warriors don't stand a chance...they can beat any one team in a series but they don't have the depth to win 3 straight series.
Houston? Well it depends who they'd be matched up with. I don't like them against the Spurs but I can see them beating OKC or LAC in a 7 game series.
Portland....well they don't have the defense.
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this LEbron kid is doing well tonight
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the Heat should let Wade take the first round of the playoffs off lol
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LEbron's gone on a scoring tear the past 5 or 6 games
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http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400490079
SMH @ the heat giving in and resting Bron and Bosh instead of fighting til the end for the #1 seed. Sure, they played Wade but he needs time under his belt. Bron and Bosh should have at least played a good 20 minutes each if they really thought they could win today.
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any chance Miami loses more than 1 game to Charlotte???
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the Heat will be the first team to make the NBA finals 4 years in a row since the Celtics in the mid 80's
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Bron with the 3
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pacers>heat
not likely lol
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That time of year again. 8)
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2-0
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that was too easy yesterday
lol @ lebron pointing at MJ after the dunk
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He did a quick hop, skip & jump over Kobe. It's crazy how it's not even a conversation anymore.
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He did a quick hop, skip & jump over Kobe. It's crazy how it's not even a conversation anymore.
you know MJ is mad inside that Lebron is killing his team like this
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He did a quick hop, skip & jump over Kobe. It's crazy how it's not even a conversation anymore.
bru, he's not even considered the best in the nba right now LOL......kobe has been out of his prime and hasn't played virtually the entire season. sad what these LeBron apologists will use to build their King.
careerwise, he's still got a ways to go before he's anywhere near Kobe.
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where are Kobe's 4 MVP awards?
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on steve nash's shelf
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that's right, he only has one. and he didn't even win the finals that year lol
Meanwhile Bron is coming off two straight MVP and finals MVP seasons. G Shit.
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Kemba Walker is holdin it down for the Bobcats. that dude.
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lol, "not the best player". Durant had 15 with an OT and lost. If that happened to LeBron you'd use that as his automatic disqualification to be the best player.
Everybody recognizes as an overall basketball player, LeBron has exceeded Kobe's prime & it's on to MJ debates. I think it's even taken over the state of California. Only the citizens of LA & random Laker fans in the country are still in denial.
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pacers>heat
Pacers trailing 3-2 now...
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lol, "not the best player". Durant had 15 with an OT and lost. If that happened to LeBron you'd use that as his automatic disqualification to be the best player.
Everybody recognizes as an overall basketball player, LeBron has exceeded Kobe's prime & it's on to MJ debates. I think it's even taken over the state of California. Only the citizens of LA & random Laker fans in the country are still in denial.
half of lebrons games in the finals were like that last year....like i said, lebron has a cakewalk to the finals. hed be a first round out if he was facing a superior team like the grizzlies.
any1 who thinks lebrons prime is touching kobe's needs to slap themselves. lebron was a missed ray allen three from having a losing finals record, and is currently .500 in finals match-ups. nowhere near kobe. kobe was better even right before he fucked his achilles up..lmfao@comparing primes. u out ur damn mind?
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I'm not & neither is the rest of NBA universe who understand.
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Miami's got a long wait for their next game
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I'm not & neither is the rest of NBA universe who understand.
who.. the media? the same media who gave steve nash back-to-back mvps? the same media who works based on an AGENDA? there is no money in building up Kobe right now. a conspiracy theorist like yourself should be the first to understand how shit works.
how bout real basketball purists, tho?....cats like michael joardan, shaquille oneal, mark jackson, stu lantz, alvin gentry, byron scott etc...cats who have stake in their word. they all went on record to say Kobe>LeBron. the people who think LeBron>Kobe or that LeBron>MJ are the same cats who were saying MJ was head and shoulders better than any1 who ever played basketball just 10 years back, based on his larger-than-life marketing campaign and nba endorsed branding. any1 who actually studies the game and doesn't just follow the herd knows what time it is.
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No. They're just people who don't want to jump the gun when Kobe's career is pretty much over and Bron has another eight or so years to go.
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if LeBron ended his career today, they wouldn't even be close....LeBron would be Dr. J, Isiah Thomas, Dominique Wilkins status, and Kobe is already Magic, MJ, Bird status. quit feeding into the hype, young'n.
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None of them threepeated & went to four consecutive Finals (assuming).
And again, that's from having a full career. Without having by far the most talented roster top to bottom during his second Finals run & all he had to his name was the threepeat led by Shaq, completely different story.
Gotta let LeBron's career play out. But these past few seasons are hands down, no debate better than almost anyone whose ever played.
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IF LEBRON THREEPEATS THIS YEAR, I WILL CATAPULT HIM TO THE JORDAN, KOBE, MAGIC ECHELON AND WE CAN END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.......DEAL?
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i can roll with that but then how long will it take you to up him to the Bill Russell echelon? ;)
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Did you guys know that out of NBA coaches with at least 300 games coached, Erik Spoelstra has the 6th best winning percentage of all time?
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i can roll with that but then how long will it take you to up him to the Bill Russell echelon? ;)
u mean in between the dr. j-dominque-isaih and kobe-magic-jordan echelon? hes not too far, but this year will show us
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11 rings must mean he's the GOAT, am i right or am i right? :D
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Lebron and the Heatles are just sitting back chilling while the rest of the NBA beats eachother up
NIK is gonna tear his hair out and be balder than me if Bron wins a 3rd straight title :D
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Lebron must be rooting for game 7 tonight
and as a Paul Pierce and KG fan I am too.
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btw I hear Corona Man's wife looks like a beach whale with a bad tan
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11 rings must mean he's the GOAT, am i right or am i right? :D
neither
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you can deny greatness all you want, it's aight
let's just focus on Bron's greatness for now. He's gonna torch Toronto or Brooklyn. 5 games max unless Pierce goes nuts as he is capable of.
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if brooklyn beat toronto, i would be concerned as a miami fan. they had an answer for miami every time they met this year, there's every chance brooklyn will handle them
wizards are looking good also, might even see them in the eastern conf finals with the way the pacers and atlanta have been playing
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lol Miami isn't gonna concern themselves with an old team like Brooklyn
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lol Miami isn't gonna concern themselves with an old team like Brooklyn
True....not ina series.
Havent caught any games, surprised by the number of game sevens....and its only the first round, lol.
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No shot Nets beat Miami lol.
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I could see Brooklyn maybe taking 2 from Miami if Miami isn't focused
but Lebron is gonna be ready. and sadly my homie Kevin Garnett looks like his gas tank is on empty (such a shame)
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I do hope Paul Pierce goes off for the rest of the playoffs
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wow, both these teams look like they'll get swept by Miami
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just to show ya'll where Bron stacks up at his young age
6. Tim Duncan 4720
7. Jerry West* 4457
8. LeBron James 3991
9. Larry Bird* 3897
10. John Havlicek* 3776
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Heatles play tonight
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game time ese's!!
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Heatles done laid a smackdown last night
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another Heat win today
getting closer to NIK having to make an apology post to Lebron for the 12 years of hating on him lol
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hey NIK, what'd you think of the game last night?
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It fucking kills me that he's staying in shitty ass Cleveland... together with Bosh in Chicago or with Bosh and Wade in Miami he could fucking humiliate the league for years to come... in shitty ass Cleveland he is just going to get humiliated by borderline contenders like the Magic...
Yea, but then it wouldn't be HIS team, and we all know LeBron has an unparalleled ego that needs to be satisfied. I don't think the bitch in him will allow him to sign with Miami.
boy, Lebron sure bitched out on going to Miami because of that ego, right?
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close game at halftime
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lebron's the only one who showed up lol
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nice to see both KG and PP scoring today
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It fucking kills me that he's staying in shitty ass Cleveland... together with Bosh in Chicago or with Bosh and Wade in Miami he could fucking humiliate the league for years to come... in shitty ass Cleveland he is just going to get humiliated by borderline contenders like the Magic...
Yea, but then it wouldn't be HIS team, and we all know LeBron has an unparalleled ego that needs to be satisfied. I don't think the bitch in him will allow him to sign with Miami.
boy, Lebron sure bitched out on going to Miami because of that ego, right?
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watch the Heat win by a mile tmrw night
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game 4
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lebron with 37 so far
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as weird as it is, tonight Lebron is pretty much pulling a Kobe Bryant: 48 points and just 2 assists
however he's the reason they won tonight. Brooklyn has put it together these two home games but when you give up 48 to the King you aren't likely to win
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Brooklyn shoulda won that game, KG fucked it up wit that stupid ass shot
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Brooklyn shoulda won that game, KG fucked it up wit that stupid ass shot
shoulda but didn't. Shocked that Bron didn't get 50 though.
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classic lebron, choking under pressure
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where would they have been without him yesterday?
2 time defending NBA finals MVP....and you know #3 is just around the way
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He's too good.
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d-wade is on fire but Bron sucks tonight so far. smh.
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OH SHIT
since i made that last post Bron has gone on a huge tear with 20 points (29 total now)
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hey NIK, how about that game ending???
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MIAMI GOT LUCKY, LEBRON CHOKED AGAIN MISSING THE FREE THROW, GOOD THING BROOKLYN CANT EXECUTE FOR SHIT (0 POINTS IN FINAL 5 MINUTES SMFH)
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MIAMI GOT LUCKY, LEBRON CHOKED AGAIN MISSING THE FREE THROW, GOOD THING BROOKLYN CANT EXECUTE FOR SHIT (0 POINTS IN FINAL 5 MINUTES SMFH)
What about the kings 78 points over the last 2 games? Are you going to act like those points never happened?
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
and if you were from Uranus you'd be a Urasshole. But you aren't from Uranus,...well I'd hope not.
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"Lebron is gonna ride on them busters on Indiana. D-wade is his closest road dawg and he got Bosh and Allen to trade war stories with. -- sincerely, infinite"
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http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/tony-parker-tight-hamstring/story?id=23725520
scoreless in 10 minutes
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
LeBron did have to beat a western team at the end to win those titles.
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
LeBron did have to beat a western team at the end to win those titles.
yea...because Miami gets to cruise in the playoffs while the western conference teams fuck each other up.
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
LeBron did have to beat a western team at the end to win those titles.
yea...because Miami gets to cruise in the playoffs while the western conference teams fuck each other up.
which means the west team is more battle tested. null point.
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
LeBron did have to beat a western team at the end to win those titles.
yea...because Miami gets to cruise in the playoffs while the western conference teams fuck each other up.
which means the west team is more battle tested. null point.
ur better than this
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Yes he's good, we know that... But he also folds under pressure. If he played in the west he'd have 0 rings right now, guaranteed.
LeBron did have to beat a western team at the end to win those titles.
yea...because Miami gets to cruise in the playoffs while the western conference teams fuck each other up.
which means the west team is more battle tested. null point.
ur better than this
and Laker fans drink veteran piss
from a dixie cup
if they ever mix me up
or confuse me with a Canibus or Dre with a Dupri
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game 1 sunday afternoon
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the Heat are gonna come out and destroy the Pacers game 2. Miami got caught sleeping today.
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the top playoff scorers alive
1. Michael Jordan 5987
2. Kareem A-Jabbar 5762
3. Kobe Bryant 5640
4. Shaquille O'Neal 5250
5. Tim Duncan 4804
6. Karl Malone 4761
7. Jerry West 4457
8. LeBron James 4166
9. Larry Bird 3897
10. John Havlicek 3776
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17. Tony Parker 3536
19. Dwyane Wade 3313
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33. Ray Allen 2654
34. Manu Ginobili 2617
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61. Kevin Durant 1954
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wonder how far Duncan will climb this post season toward Shaq.
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the top playoff scorers alive
1. Michael Jordan 5987
2. Kareem A-Jabbar 5762
3. Kobe Bryant 5640
4. Shaquille O'Neal 5250
5. Tim Duncan 4804
6. Karl Malone 4761
7. Jerry West 4457
8. LeBron James 4166
9. Larry Bird 3897
10. John Havlicek 3776
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17. Tony Parker 3536
19. Dwyane Wade 3313
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33. Ray Allen 2654
34. Manu Ginobili 2617
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61. Kevin Durant 1954
DAMN, KOBE GUNA BE NUMBER 1 BY THE END OF HIS CAREER, THATS DOPE.
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he's never gonna make the playoffs again so no, he won't
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DO U WANNA PUT MONEY ON THAT?
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no....just my luck Kobe would get bought outta his deal and sign with the Clip Show
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http://www.youtube.com/v/zezQAe5sQ98
Greatness.
almost forgot this
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no....just my luck Kobe would get bought outta his deal and sign with the Clip Show
aka im scary
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if the Lakers even make the playoffs next year it's as a bottom feeder seeed for SAS, OKC, LAC etc. etc. to feed on. and you know old man Kobe is just staying around to grab a check while his wife plans to divorce him as he retires.
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lets bet that the lakers make the playoffs before the celtrics then
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it's spelled Celtics
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I disagree
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celshits
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i disagree
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Miami wins tonight
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game 2 is on right now
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Bron was quiet early, but turned up when it matter.
Wade is on a personal mission, defending his legacy to shit on Lance any way he can lol.
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Heat should have this series wrapped up in no time
Heat vs Spurs finals
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Miami stay gettin lucky
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Miami stay gettin lucky
lol what
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haters gonna hate
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Bosh sure has sucked so far in the series
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If Bosh splits after the season and goes where he'll be the go to option, assuming they have an all star point guard to dime for him...he'd be a monster. He's completely abandoned his post game and has developed shooting so much, he can actually hit the long ball.
Give him the green light as the go to guy on a team and he'd average upper 20's.
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i wonder where Bosh could go
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game 3 sat night
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i wonder where Bosh could go
lakers
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i wonder where Bosh could go
lakers
well i guess he's done winning rings in that case but he'd sure cash in :D
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great second half by the Heatles
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Playoff Win Shares
1. LeBron James-MIA 3.0
2. Paul George-IND 2.3
3. Tim Duncan-SAS 2.0
4. Kevin Durant-OKC 2.0
5. Tiago Splitter-SAS 1.9
6. Chris Paul-LAC 1.9
7. Trevor Ariza-WAS 1.7
8. Russell Westbrook-OKC 1.7
9. Kawhi Leonard-SAS 1.6
10. Joe Johnson-BRK 1.5
some interesting names on that bitch
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I caught the highlights on sky this morning. Indianapolis has this in the bag. Highbert is playing like he hasn't before this season. He made James look silly on jump ball foul.
lmao
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game 4 is monday 8)
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in miami
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game 4 tonight ya'll
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game 4 tonight ya'll
in miami
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lebron is doing quite well so far
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Mr. James has 25 so far and Bosh has 21
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32 points and 10 rebounds from the royal King James
NIK meanwhile is almost a week in hiding mode because of the Heat
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Bosh had a nice game too
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Threepeat.
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Threepeat.
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Threepeat.
What's sad is this is the worst of the 4 Heat teams I've seen, yet they are by far the best team in the NBA. This team would not beat the Mavs, Thunder or Spurs that the other Heat teams played. It's almost like they'd win by default.
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Threepeat.
What's sad is this is the worst of the 4 Heat teams I've seen, yet they are by far the best team in the NBA. This team would not beat the Mavs, Thunder or Spurs that the other Heat teams played. It's almost like they'd win by default.
i think they'd beat that Thunder team
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Threepeat.
What's sad is this is the worst of the 4 Heat teams I've seen, yet they are by far the best team in the NBA. This team would not beat the Mavs, Thunder or Spurs that the other Heat teams played. It's almost like they'd win by default.
BS. #1 in fg% in nba. Makin fools out of the supposed best defense in the nba.
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The role players aren't as on point, even Ray outside of Game 2 of this series.
You forget that Wade was almost invisible last year. So pretty much they got Wade having his best run in years, shooting 60% from the field. Just playing like a superstar. Defense is slower but they're just as dangerous.
This team only got that "weaker" tag because this is the first year they really coasted in the regular season. Wade almost missed 30 games & most of them were just to rest his knee for this.
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Threepeat.
What's sad is this is the worst of the 4 Heat teams I've seen, yet they are by far the best team in the NBA. This team would not beat the Mavs, Thunder or Spurs that the other Heat teams played. It's almost like they'd win by default.
BS. #1 in fg% in nba. Makin fools out of the supposed best defense in the nba.
Because ain't no team that good this year. This Heat team is winning because the Pacers fell off and died, the Thunder's bench is suspect and the Spurs are old. I mean, this Spurs team is not nearly as good as they've been the last 5 years, let alone 10. And they are almost to the NBA Finals. This Thunder team is not even as good as last year, yet they are almost there. This Pacer team is the second best team left and they would get destroyed by all 3 teams left because the Pacers lost whatever they had.
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i really have to give it to lebronze, i hate that fucker, but he impressed me.
he can finally fit a contested 3 with single coverage and he can finally hit some post up jumpshots or just work the post with single coverage, efficiently.
very impressed, now he just needs to hit a contested 3 with a double team, post up shots or working the post on double and triple teams, shoot 3s with his left hand, hit some fallaway 3 point clutch shots or game winner, actually make AT THE LEAST 10 career game winning shots, ,make the defense double you on the outside perimeter right when you cross half court, and and get double teamed off the ball to make it impossible to get an entry pass, with some consistency then he can finally be in the same discussion as Kobe/MJ :laugh:
but last game, i give it more to the pacers horrible play, rather than heats good play. the heat played good, but the pacers we're still behind only 10 points (which was really 20 points since the pacers had no control over the tempo of the game, had no control, and no idea what they were doing) they should of been up by 30 given how horrible the pacers were playing.
i really dont know what the hell was going on with the pacers offense. MOST points were off turn overs, stupid turnovers.
roy hibbert was invisible, not contesting bosh on his 3s, no rebounds, did he even score? missed point blank hooks he should make, it was horrible.
vogel wanted a 'hot potato' offense to move the ball and run, but the fact is they couldnt keep up with the consistency of the heat because they had an off game.
and what do they do? they continue to run and die by the 3. Paul george was literally a spot up shooter that game.
george NEEDS to take advantadge when lebron switches off him on defense, when it switches to wade, mario, or lewis, he needs to go to work.
hell play some INSIDE GAME, make scola the playmaker in the paint, scola was the best big man on the floor that night, hell mayb even the best play maker. dude was calm used his foot work to get his or to find a teammate, vogel is making a big mistake not playing scola, atleast in that game
lance was out of control, he said he was going to tone it down, but just not shooting is not toning it down, he was over dribbling and made some horrible passes.
also west, i dont know what to say about him. hes a vet, but he was looking like a rook out there, theres one thing to be aggressive and theres one thing to just drive in 8 times into 3 heat players and just tossing up the ball and bricking 6 of those 8 terrible shots.
honestly this whole pacers team had me saying, what the fuck? that was one of the worst offenses ive seen in recent memory.
woudlnt be surprised if vogel is gone.dude could of grinded the game out with half court sets and take high percentage shots but no.
i got to say all the teams got weaker, hell in the WCF when we had a young trailblazers led by roy, melo led nuggets, lakers being the power house, thunders up and coming, spurs werent nearly as intimidating as now. hell i remember in those years sometimes they werent projected to even get out of the 1st round.
this "super team" concept is terrible imo. never liked it, if it never happened id still look forward to raptor games, cav games, etc etc. not much any more, and nuggets arent as nearly exciting to look forward to without a melo.
i feel like kobe, dirk, and duncan will truly be the last players to stick with one team.
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game 5 tonight
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Lebron was pissed see how he walked out. Something tells me its gonna be an epic ass whooping in Miami on friday. He about to have either a triple double or a 40+ game.
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That was the worst officiated game I've ever seen. The Pacers have no business being on the same floor as Miami. They're lucky Paul George just kept firing up threes or the Pacers would of lost by 15 even after they built an 11 point lead.
Something tells me its gonna be an epic ass whooping in Miami on friday. He about to have either a triple double or a 40+ game.
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That was the worst officiated game I've ever seen. The Pacers have no business being on the same floor as Miami. They're lucky Paul George just kept firing up threes or the Pacers would of lost by 15 even after they built an 11 point lead.
Something tells me its gonna be an epic ass whooping in Miami on friday. He about to have either a triple double or a 40+ game.
That was a very NIK-like post ;)
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it became such a joke by the time Lebron had 4 fouls in 10 minutes of play. clearly the NBA wanted to extend the series but wow.
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the slaughtering begins tonight
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Heat are heading back to the finals for a 3 peat
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That was a joke lmao.
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Heat are gonna shit on the Spurs
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the officiating is a bit different since adam became commish, at least in the playoffs. the home team clearly gets favored.
but that series was just terrible, on the pacers part. just horrible offense and i mostly blame the coach. george hill is a combo guard at best, he cant handle full time PG duties it showed and vogel didnt change and i dont know what this dude tells paul george or his team, but if lebron switches off george, he needs to go to work. and virtually scola was the play maker in the paint, he wasnt doing stupid shit like west or nothing like hibbert.
plus lance doing stupid shit like over dribbling, dangerous awkward force passes, wasnt calm at all, rushing and forcing stuff, hibbert went back into his shell, david west crashing into 3 heat jerseys and just throwing the ball up there like that was the best possible play, paul george virtually becoming a spot up shooter.
the man needed to bench hibbert, he got heat for it last year but it was the right thing to do and maybe it was before too. scola should of been getting a lot of minutes playing besides west and hibbert.
vogel is to weak, he shouldnt tolerate stupid plays, i've seen west make plenty. lance seriously needs to control himself dude seems like hes playing at a speed that he really cant handle.
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watch Lance go rot in obscurity for some team who over pays
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imagine all the Three Peat t-shirts that Pat Riley will make mad money off of
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wouldn't it be crazy if the Heat dump Bosh and try to get Kevin Love this off season?
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gotta wait 3 nights til game 1
wack
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can't wait for the series
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finals starts tmrw
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FINALS TONIGHT SLUTS
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Damn they found Lebrons weakness. Lack of air conditioning lol.
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1-0 Spurs
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1-0 Spurs
Spurs plan to cancel their air conditioning bill the rest of the playoffs
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funny how Lebron only played 33 minutes and lead the game in scoring doe
can't wait for game 2....why the fuck does the NBA finals have to be spread out? SUNDAY? gtfoh i want that game 2 saturday bitch.
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either Duncan gets 5 rings or Lebron moves up to 3.
this finals is a hell for NIK :D
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2014 Playoff Points
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 563
2. Russell Westbrook-OKC 507
3. LeBron James-MIA 432
4. Paul George-IND 429
5. Tony Parker-SAS 329
6. Tim Duncan-SAS 318
7. Blake Griffin-LAC 306
8. Dwyane Wade-MIA 299
9. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 288
10. David West-IND 287
2014 Playoff Points Per Game
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 29.6
2. LeBron James-MIA 27.0
3. James Harden-HOU 26.8
4. Russell Westbrook-OKC 26.7
5. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 26.2
6. Dwight Howard-HOU 26.0
7. DeMar DeRozan-TOR 23.9
8. Blake Griffin-LAC 23.5
9. Stephen Curry-GSW 23.0
10. Damian Lillard-POR 22.9
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game 2 tmrw night
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game 2 tonight
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who's ready for the Heat to win tonight?
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King James with 32 and 10 so far
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Heatles win
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Bron with 35, 10 and 3
Duncan with 18 and 15.
Wade and Bosh are sidekicks.
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where are all the Spurs fans on here???
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game 3 tmrw
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game 3 tonight
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game 3 tonight
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anything can happen, we'll see how it goes tonight
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anything can happen, we'll see how it goes tonight
a 9 PM east coast tip off is fucking retarded. it's like the nba doesn't give a fuck about the majority of the country watching the 4th quarter smh
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
Lol Exactly! They got dominated Kawahi played how he was expected to play and relatively shut down Lebron and dropped 29 what a game if he keeps that up it's gonna be vet quick.
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
Leonard is a beast?
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
Lol Exactly! They got dominated Kawahi played how he was expected to play and relatively shut down Lebron and dropped 29 what a game if he keeps that up it's gonna be vet quick.
There is always that case of a player getting the better of a better player for a game or two. If Leonard can do this 2 more games, which is highly unlikely, I think you have to elevate his status and it proves LeBron is not what we all thought he was. Of course, getting the best of LeBron for 2 more games will be very hard.
I will have to say, I'd rather see LeBron three peat as oppose to Duncan getting #5. So right now, I am not exactly liking this NBA Finals.
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
Lol Exactly! They got dominated Kawahi played how he was expected to play and relatively shut down Lebron and dropped 29 what a game if he keeps that up it's gonna be vet quick.
There is always that case of a player getting the better of a better player for a game or two. If Leonard can do this 2 more games, which is highly unlikely, I think you have to elevate his status and it proves LeBron is not what we all thought he was. Of course, getting the best of LeBron for 2 more games will be very hard.
I will have to say, I'd rather see LeBron three peat as oppose to Duncan getting #5. So right now, I am not exactly liking this NBA Finals.
Of course it's going to be tough to do as Lebron is clearly one of the 2 best players actively playing in the NBA today(Durant being the other) but I think as long as Kawahi stays aggressive and plays Lebron close like he did game 3 and if he continues to score its gonna be very tough for Miami to win this series even if Kawahi just slows Lebron down and stays out of foul trouble...I predicted Spurs in 5 before the series started so I'll stick with it but i wouldn't be shocked if it goes 6 or 7 I just think the Spurs role players/rookies/sophmores from last year have vastly improved leading to their team to be much better this year and the Heat have actually degressed a bit with the loss of Mike Miller.
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I've said it before, this is the worst Heat team I saw since LeBron joined them. They are weaker than they've ever been, and the Spurs have what it takes to knock them off. Just don't want to see it happen.
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All the Spurs need from Leonard is to be aggressive defensively against LeBron. If he does that, with home court advantage and the Spurs win the series. The Spurs are deep enough for him to just be a role player on offense. He wasn't much of a factor offensively in game one and they still won.
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If Leonard can do this 2 more games, which is highly unlikely, I think you have to elevate his status and it proves LeBron is not what we all thought he was.
or what YOU thought he was....some of us been seen right through him
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If Leonard can do this 2 more games, which is highly unlikely, I think you have to elevate his status and it proves LeBron is not what we all thought he was.
or what YOU thought he was....some of us been seen right through him
a two time NBA finals MVP and 4 time regular season MVP
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so whats the excuse for the heat after that 1st quarter?
Lol Exactly! They got dominated Kawahi played how he was expected to play and relatively shut down Lebron and dropped 29 what a game if he keeps that up it's gonna be vet quick.
There is always that case of a player getting the better of a better player for a game or two. If Leonard can do this 2 more games, which is highly unlikely, I think you have to elevate his status and it proves LeBron is not what we all thought he was. Of course, getting the best of LeBron for 2 more games will be very hard.
I will have to say, I'd rather see LeBron three peat as oppose to Duncan getting #5. So right now, I am not exactly liking this NBA Finals.
kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season. theres a reason why he'll be the face of the spurs once the big 3 are gone. he is very capable of exploding like that offensively. in the finals last year, he averaged 14 pts. he didnt play as good game 1 and 2 and showed what he could do game 3 and i can see him stepping it up again the rest of the series, dont sleep on him.
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Can anything other than another 2011 Finals meltdown do anything to destroy LeBron's legacy at this point? His career trajectory will put him in the top 10 of all time when he retires.
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kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season.
12.8 points per game....i think Pop was exaggerating a bit. if he really was that good he'd be the star of the team.
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Can anything other than another 2011 Finals meltdown do anything to destroy LeBron's legacy at this point? His career trajectory will put him in the top 10 of all time when he retires.
no. even if the Heat lose the finals this year they'll be back next year with a stronger roster (to face the Clippers)
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Can anything other than another 2011 Finals meltdown do anything to destroy LeBron's legacy at this point? His career trajectory will put him in the top 10 of all time when he retires.
uh, yea...if he ends his career 2-5 in the finals, that'll be pretty fuckin bad considering how highly people have talked of him, and he definitely wont be etched into the top tier of all-time greats wit the magics, kobes, birds, mjs, and kareems of this league.
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kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season.
12.8 points per game....i think Pop was exaggerating a bit. if he really was that good he'd be the star of the team.
13.6 PPG in the postseason and averages 15.7 against the heat. first 2 games all the shots he made where 3s so obviously plays werent being called for him and of course hes not the star of the team yet cuz the big 3 is still there.
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game 4 tonight 8)
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who else wishes these games started earlier when in the east??
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im glad these game start at 6 here out west 8)
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im glad these game start at 6 here out west 8)
haha
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wow, this game is such a blow out. Lebron is the only one on Miami worth a damn out there.
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ducan on his way to 5th ring, dayum.
for Riley's sake i'd say forget Melo and go and recruit some centers and PFs
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BOSH AND WADE: 72 MINUTES, 22 COMBINED POINTS
wow, these guys are bums! thank god they aren't on the Celtics.
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how's Lebron gonna want to resign with this trash heap of a team if he can take his talents somewhere better like the Celtics?
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kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season.
12.8 points per game....i think Pop was exaggerating a bit. if he really was that good he'd be the star of the team.
20 and 14 tonight and did a hell of a job guarding lebron, you still think pop was exaggerating? i know what i said wasnt bullshit cuz we seeing it right now. he will be the star of the team.
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kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season.
12.8 points per game....i think Pop was exaggerating a bit. if he really was that good he'd be the star of the team.
20 and 14 tonight and did a hell of a job guarding lebron, you still think pop was exaggerating? i know what i said wasnt bullshit cuz we seeing it right now. he will be the star of the team.
perhaps in time but right now he's a #4 guy
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did i miss anything good by coach Pop on the press conference?
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Tim Duncan has 158 playoff double-doubles, more than anyone in NBA history.
the ageless wonder
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kawhi leonard played last night is how he's played through out the whole season. even coach pop said that thats the kawhi theyve seen all season.
12.8 points per game....i think Pop was exaggerating a bit. if he really was that good he'd be the star of the team.
20 and 14 tonight and did a hell of a job guarding lebron, you still think pop was exaggerating? i know what i said wasnt bullshit cuz we seeing it right now. he will be the star of the team.
perhaps in time but right now he's a #4 guy
yeah no shit, i said that he is only because the big 3 are still there
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but if he were truly good enough he'd outshine those guys like Rondo did with the Celtics
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but if he were truly good enough he'd outshine those guys like Rondo did with the Celtics
and he hasn't this pass couple games?
rondos a good pg, but i really wonder how it would of been if he never played with the big 3. what if he was on a certain new orleans team ::)
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but if he were truly good enough he'd outshine those guys like Rondo did with the Celtics
and he hasn't this pass couple games?
rondos a good pg, but i really wonder how it would of been if he never played with the big 3. what if he was on a certain new orleans team ::)
Rondo's the best. Look at his 10 assists last year with a buncha bums.
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back to the subject though.....i have a weird feeling the NBA will extend this series to 6 games (like they do with every series)
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back to the subject though.....i have a weird feeling the NBA will extend this series to 6 games (like they do with every series)
well they'll try their hardest, its not in the NBA's best interest to end any series early, if they can they would want EVERY series to go 7 games to rack up that money.
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game 4 sunday
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NIK is scared to enter this thread
he doesn't want to jinx the Spurs :D
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Tim Duncan is gonna have quite the resume if his team wins
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game 5 tonight
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the Miami Cavs role players strike again
Bron left doing all the heavy lifting...he'd be a complete fool to not go to the Clippers and play with Blake and CP3.
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series over
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Wade and Bosh 8-22 so far
:eh:
meanwhile Tim Duncan is getting fitted for a 5th ring. he deserves it....the best player post jordan for sure (well, until Lebron) although i think KG in his prime was better than Duncan it's obvious that T.D. has the longevity and resume to be considered better overall than both KG and Dirk.
5 rings, 3 NBA finals MVPs and 2 MVP awards. Nobody else since MJ has this type of resume.
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but if he were truly good enough he'd outshine those guys like Rondo did with the Celtics
add finals MVP to that, i couldve told you he would win finals mvp
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Wade and Bosh 8-22 so far
:eh:
meanwhile Tim Duncan is getting fitted for a 5th ring. he deserves it....the best player post jordan for sure (well, until Lebron) although i think KG in his prime was better than Duncan it's obvious that T.D. has the longevity and resume to be considered better overall than both KG and Dirk.
5 rings, 3 NBA finals MVPs and 2 MVP awards. Nobody else since MJ has this type of resume.
sound like you taking a shot at kobe
do i have to remind you 5 rings, 2 finals mvp and 1 mvp. if tim duncan can still win at this age, why not kobe? i bet anything that this will motivate the fuck outta kobe and he'll be firing on all cylinders next season
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Wade and Bosh 8-22 so far
:eh:
meanwhile Tim Duncan is getting fitted for a 5th ring. he deserves it....the best player post jordan for sure (well, until Lebron) although i think KG in his prime was better than Duncan it's obvious that T.D. has the longevity and resume to be considered better overall than both KG and Dirk.
5 rings, 3 NBA finals MVPs and 2 MVP awards. Nobody else since MJ has this type of resume.
sound like you taking a shot at kobe
do i have to remind you 5 rings, 2 finals mvp and 1 mvp. if tim duncan can still win at this age, why not kobe? i bet anything that this will motivate the fuck outta kobe and he'll be firing on all cylinders next season
He was taking shots at Kobe to try and bait Now I Know. Don't feed the trolls, Hack is one of the biggest.
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San Antonio well deserved. Miami on the other hand, were terrible in the finals. Lebron is essentially back on the Cavs team, you can't win championship with 1 player doing it all.
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but if he were truly good enough he'd outshine those guys like Rondo did with the Celtics
add finals MVP to that, i couldve told you he would win finals mvp
i still say Leonard guys back to being just another guy when the spurs big 3 are gone
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Wade and Bosh 8-22 so far
:eh:
meanwhile Tim Duncan is getting fitted for a 5th ring. he deserves it....the best player post jordan for sure (well, until Lebron) although i think KG in his prime was better than Duncan it's obvious that T.D. has the longevity and resume to be considered better overall than both KG and Dirk.
5 rings, 3 NBA finals MVPs and 2 MVP awards. Nobody else since MJ has this type of resume.
sound like you taking a shot at kobe
do i have to remind you 5 rings, 2 finals mvp and 1 mvp. if tim duncan can still win at this age, why not kobe? i bet anything that this will motivate the fuck outta kobe and he'll be firing on all cylinders next season
He was taking shots at Kobe to try and bait Now I Know. Don't feed the trolls, Hack is one of the biggest.
yeah i know all about dumb wilson ah ah ah :laugh:
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Kobe won't do shit next year but hop around like a cripple and score another 13 points per game for the few games he's healthy
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Wade and Bosh 8-22 so far
:eh:
meanwhile Tim Duncan is getting fitted for a 5th ring. he deserves it....the best player post jordan for sure (well, until Lebron) although i think KG in his prime was better than Duncan it's obvious that T.D. has the longevity and resume to be considered better overall than both KG and Dirk.
5 rings, 3 NBA finals MVPs and 2 MVP awards. Nobody else since MJ has this type of resume.
sound like you taking a shot at kobe
do i have to remind you 5 rings, 2 finals mvp and 1 mvp. if tim duncan can still win at this age, why not kobe? i bet anything that this will motivate the fuck outta kobe and he'll be firing on all cylinders next season
its the front office. right now i don't have any confidence in them.
Mike Brown Hire? than D'Antoni? over the likes of Phil, Adelman, Shaw? than offering kobe a 2 year 48 million dollar contract? letting howard walk? lakers don't have the clout to convince players to sign with us for cheap anymore.
I've said this from day one its going to hurt us and it did. kobe for damn sure can compete, and the spurs are a prime example.
jimmy buss's ego trip really hurt this franchise. the man is a bum
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Top 25 playoff scorers of all time
Rank Player PTS
1. Michael Jordan* 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
3. Kobe Bryant 5640
4. Shaquille O'Neal 5250
5. Tim Duncan 4988
6. Karl Malone* 4761
7. Jerry West* 4457
8. LeBron James 4419
9. Larry Bird* 3897
10. John Havlicek* 3776
11. Hakeem Olajuwon* 3755
12. Tony Parker 3705
13. Magic Johnson* 3701
14. Scottie Pippen* 3642
15. Elgin Baylor* 3623
16. Wilt Chamberlain* 3607
17. Dwyane Wade 3481
18. Dirk Nowitzki 3455
19. Kevin McHale* 3182
20. Dennis Johnson* 3116
21. Julius Erving* 3088
22. James Worthy* 3022
23. Paul Pierce 3007
24. Reggie Miller* 2972
25. Clyde Drexler* 2963
* = HOF
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Good chance Kobe passes Kareem, but LeBron passes Kobe, unless he gets injured.
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Good chance Kobe passes Kareem, but LeBron passes Kobe, unless he gets injured.
sigh, stupid achilles injury. i really wanted to see how we would of faired against spurs with kobe coming off a pretty much career year at such an old age.
might of been enough to convince coward to stay
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Good chance Kobe passes Kareem, but LeBron passes Kobe, unless he gets injured.
lebron might just retire before kobe
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Good chance Kobe passes Kareem, but LeBron passes Kobe, unless he gets injured.
lebron might just retire before kobe
:loco:
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Good chance Kobe passes Kareem, but LeBron passes Kobe, unless he gets injured.
lebron might just retire before kobe
:loco:
troll all night n troll all day
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LeBron's style of play does not age well, that's the thing about him. He plays the game like a 22 year old rookie. The question in the next 2-4 years will be, can he adjust. At his pace, he will pass Kobe eventually and he should be #2 in overall points. But with his game, and potential for injury playing his style, that is the question. He could be like Vince Carter in that they were very physical, and that led to many injuries for Carter in his later career. Kobe is 100 points aways from Kareem, which he should pass if the Lakers make the playoffs. We shall see.
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No joke I can see Lebron retire around 35-36 while Kobe could play til he 40+
Lebron is dependent on physical attributes, Kobe is all footwork, fundamentals, and shooters stay shooters. There won't be a huge gap between their retirements.
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No joke I can see Lebron retire around 35-36 while Kobe could play til he 40+
Lebron is dependent on physical attributes, Kobe is all footwork, fundamentals, and shooters stay shooters. There won't be a huge gap between their retirements.
If Kobe is willing to adjust his game, and I said this before, he could do exactly what Ray Allen is doing. Kobe is an amazing shooter. I'm not sold LeBron could do that.
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How can kobe play til 40 when he's done at the end of his contract?
Lebron will play until he breaks Karrems scroing record.
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Lebron's on not even 30, right??
old man Kobe is like 35 next year coming off Joe From Family Guy like statitics.
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reports: Houston is going to go all in on trying to lure Lebron to Houston
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word has it that Houston will go after Bosh
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Is this where we hear you've been a true Rockets fan since the days of the Dream?
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no, it's where you voted for Obama twice just because of his skin color
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Is this where we hear you've been a true Rockets fan since the days of the Dream?
No, that'll be me. I think Houston is his best option.
Miami is too old. If I was Wade, I'd opt-in & take that big final payday before his pay checks get cut to less than a third of what he'd take home next year. Unless they worked things out to get Melo down there. Then I'd be interested in that.
Cleveland is too young. Kyrie, LeBron, Wiggins/Jabari & Waiters is a cool team. If Bennett didn't suck enormous dick, it would be more appealing. But they're just too young. I wouldn't hate it, but isn't better than Houston. Plus I heard Bron & Dan Gilbert still hate each other lol.
Supposedly Houston would have to lose Lin & Asik & they could get LeBron on the team with Harden, Dwight, Beverley, Parsons, Terrance Jones. Probably not a better look in the league.
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How can kobe play til 40 when he's done at the end of his contract?
Lebron will play until he breaks Karrems scroing record.
lebron aint going to play till hes 40. when he loses his athleticism its going to be real similar to d-wade. unless he some how MASSIVELY improves his jumpshot (although he has already) and playing in the post becomes 2nd nature to him and his footwork also becomes superb.
sound like anyone? lol, but i dont see it. hes was never a natural shooter so i dont think he'll last that long in the league. I'm not saying its not impossible but its going to be hard.
and definitely he might play some legit 4 or be a slower 3 like artest or paul pierce and their current stage.
Is this where we hear you've been a true Rockets fan since the days of the Dream?
No, that'll be me. I think Houston is his best option.
Miami is too old. If I was Wade, I'd opt-in & take that big final payday before his pay checks get cut to less than a third of what he'd take home next year. Unless they worked things out to get Melo down there. Then I'd be interested in that.
Cleveland is too young. Kyrie, LeBron, Wiggins/Jabari & Waiters is a cool team. If Bennett didn't suck enormous dick, it would be more appealing. But they're just too young. I wouldn't hate it, but isn't better than Houston. Plus I heard Bron & Dan Gilbert still hate each other lol.
Supposedly Houston would have to lose Lin & Asik & they could get LeBron on the team with Harden, Dwight, Beverley, Parsons, Terrance Jones. Probably not a better look in the league.
I've been saying since day one that a harden led team isn't going anywhere, neither a harden/dwight it just isn't enough.
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Is this where we hear you've been a true Rockets fan since the days of the Dream?
No, that'll be me. I think Houston is his best option.
Miami is too old. If I was Wade, I'd opt-in & take that big final payday before his pay checks get cut to less than a third of what he'd take home next year. Unless they worked things out to get Melo down there. Then I'd be interested in that.
Cleveland is too young. Kyrie, LeBron, Wiggins/Jabari & Waiters is a cool team. If Bennett didn't suck enormous dick, it would be more appealing. But they're just too young. I wouldn't hate it, but isn't better than Houston. Plus I heard Bron & Dan Gilbert still hate each other lol.
Supposedly Houston would have to lose Lin & Asik & they could get LeBron on the team with Harden, Dwight, Beverley, Parsons, Terrance Jones. Probably not a better look in the league.
Do you envision him seriously considering going back to Cleveland? I disliked him before "the decision" and thought he made himself look even worse with the way he did that, but Dan Gilbert reacted like a crazy ex. I don't see him ever playing for that guy.
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I think he wants to. But yeah, I don't think he'll play for Gilbert. Plus who knows how he feels about this European coach.
There were early rumors that Cleveland would work out a deal to get Kevin Love for the #1 pick. If they did that & Dan Gilbert went on national television apologizing his billionaire dick off, begging for him would be the only way.
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no, it's where you voted for Obama twice just because of his skin color
Really, I thought I voted for him because he was a liberal.
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no, it's where you voted for Obama twice just because of his skin color
Really, I thought I voted for him because he was a liberal.
your kidding right cham?
i aint trying to attack you, but if you ever for one second thought he was a liberal, you need to go back to school.
its just appalling even if you're joking. The mans a Neo-Con with the rest of the republican and democratic party.
lol the man suggested free universal health care during a damn depression, how the hell was he going to fund this? print more money? which we did anyways. Now look at obama care 6 years later in present time. that shit is eating away at middle america.
the only reason the man got voted is because hes half black, even though that nigga is an uncle tom, not an uncle sam and the democrats were just had the upper edge in 2008, they had a half black man and a woman.
lol and what did the republicans do? get sarah palin who was fairly attractive that governed a population thats smaller than LA country. not to mention how under qualified she was. she didnt even know the 3 goddamn countries in NAFTA (Mexican, US, Canada), and in an interview her International Political experience was "Oh Russia is right there"
not to mention rudy guliani just saying "9/11, i was there" getting a round of applause, without discussing hardly any policy at all.
McCain's racists rants going unnoticed, Mike Huckabee going on basically preaching and basically acknowledging his total lack of experience and prerequisites of being the chief executive of our country.
Mitt Romney basically going the Bush route saying he'll declare war through his attorneys rather than going through congress, which would probably lead to exonerating himself before he leaves office like Bush did.
not to mention Romney, Huckabee, Clinton, Guliani, Obama were all on judicial watches top 10 most corrupted politicians that year.
just had to put in my 2cents , i dont know if you were being serious or not.
i wish our politicians can be transparent with our foreign policy, but the general population is just too stupid to understand.
stop nation building? Modern day imperialism? cut military budget spending? bring back our troops from europe, asia, and the middle east? what makes you think China And Russia will just stop as well because we do? they won't. Its not right, but unless theres a solution we can't do anything about it.
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i am going to wait until the draft to announce my guess on Lebron's possible decision
but going into the draft I feel he wants to stay in the east so he can coast to the finals each year lol
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Miami got Napier! Best player in the draft for sure :D
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Miami got Napier! Best player in the draft for sure :D
Which is why he fell to 22.
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Miami got Napier! Best player in the draft for sure :D
Which is why he fell to 22.
who else drafted before him won the national title?
dude was the best, hence why his team won
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wade and bosh opting out too
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if Bosh doesn't take a lot less to stay with the Heat i say they just let his ass walk
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Miami got Napier! Best player in the draft for sure :D
Which is why he fell to 22.
who else drafted before him won the national title?
dude was the best, hence why his team won
Which is why he fell to 22.
if Bosh doesn't take a lot less to stay with the Heat i say they just let his ass walk
No more dino power on the Heat... sad. :'(
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watch Napier be the best, just like he was in college last year. son is a born winner 8)
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upppp
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remember when i said the fix was in?
well.....
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might as well say RIP to this thread right here lol
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but when Shabazz Napier starts balling i'm gonna resurrect it 8)
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RIP thread
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2 years 20 milly
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If Rose makes it through the entire year and plays like his usual self, I'd say that it'll be Cavs/Bulls in the conference final. With possibility of Indiana.
But if/when Rose goes down and the Heat make a few more clutch signings, I could see the Heat making a run to play Bron in the a East. That would be nuts.
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RIP thread
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Good, this thread isn't dead & closed down yet. They still have a south beach triad but it won't be as good as the original. DWB=Deng, Wade, & Bosh. Bosh is a chump for not going to houston. He got his rings, now play for cash & help someone else out 4 a change. I should be happy cause the clippers match up best with the rockets, even swept them. And nowadays teams mostly win because of matchups. I doubt their arena will be constant sellouts now with an older Wade. And the fools who boo Lebron & spray painted his face off the mural is pathetic. And so-flo's get mad when I & other people refer to miami as the 2nd worst sports town in america. Atlanta no.1, So-cal no.3. For the anti-heat fans here's a triad of pics :D
(http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/19532973_dissing_heat_fans.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19532973/dissing_heat_fans.jpg.html)
(http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/19532974_fake_heat_fans_running_out_game.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19532974/fake_heat_fans_running_out_game.jpg.html)
(http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/19532975_heat_fans_movin_to_cleveland.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19532975/heat_fans_movin_to_cleveland.jpg.html)
If that's too harsh, here's something that will cherer them up :P
(http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/19532976_hottie_in_wade_jersey.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19532976/hottie_in_wade_jersey.jpg.html)
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Wade should have retired. He's got more money than anybody would ever need. He ain't helping the team anymore. He has lost his athleticism and he could never shoot a basketball.
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I bet if wade went to Dallas ud be all on his nuts right now
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I bet if wade went to Dallas ud be all on his nuts right now
Even if Wade was a good player I wouldn't want him in Dallas, for personal reasons alone. I respect Stephen A. Smith dearly, but suggesting Wade might end up in Dallas was retarded. Cuban wouldn't sign Wade for the MLE. He's the type of owner who takes stuff personal.
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I bet if wade went to Dallas ud be all on his nuts right now
Even if Wade was a good player I wouldn't want him in Dallas, for personal reasons alone. I respect Stephen A. Smith dearly, but suggesting Wade might end up in Dallas was retarded. Cuban wouldn't sign Wade for the MLE. He's the type of owner who takes stuff personal.
"Did you take business classes at marquette?" lmao
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I bet if wade went to Dallas ud be all on his nuts right now
Even if Wade was a good player I wouldn't want him in Dallas, for personal reasons alone. I respect Stephen A. Smith dearly, but suggesting Wade might end up in Dallas was retarded. Cuban wouldn't sign Wade for the MLE. He's the type of owner who takes stuff personal.
"Did you take business classes at marquette?" lmao
Classic shit...
http://blogmaverick.com/2007/02/09/dwayne-wade-a-leader/
Dwayne Wade a Leader ?
Posted on February 9, 2007
I hope Dwayne Wade was misquoted in an article today in the Miami Herald. I know the Herald has issues with accuracy and they are still probably looking for the boat I dont own in Miami, but according to the Herald, and i have a hard time thinking even the Herald could get this quote wrong, Wade said the following:
DIG AT DIRK
After the Heat practiced Thursday at Quicken Loans Arena, Wade was asked if he believes players are ultimately remembered for what they do at the end of games.
Wade, who usually is selective and subtle with his criticisms of opposing players, took the opportunity to take a jab at Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki, who has failed to give the Heat credit for beating the Mavericks in the Finals last season.
”At the end of the day,” Wade said, “you’re remembered for what you did at the end. . . . I think that’s the reason — Dirk says they gave us the championship last year, but he’s the reason they lost the championship, because he wasn’t the leader that he’s supposed to be in the closing moments. That’s because of great defense by us, but also he wasn’t assertive enough as a leader’s supposed to be.”
Say what ? Is this the DWade of some of the lamest , boring commercials known to man ? Commercials that are singlehandedly responsible for selling more commercial skipping Tivos than anything else on TV ?
Dwayne I don’t blame you for not looking at tapes of the finals. You obviously didn’t. You would have seen your unbelievable skills and some other unbelievable elements that if I could discuss honestly here I would get fined for.
You are right, endings are remembered. And the ending of 3 of the games of the Finals will be remembered alongside Game 6 of the King vs Lakers Conf Finals a few years ago.
I guess you have earned the right to criticize Dirk with an obvious display of your own leadership skills.
I know Shaq appreciates your leadership as well. He called out your team a few weeks ago saying it was “embarassing’. Great leadership DWade. Your coach sat players for being fat. I guess you couldnt lead them away from the buffet.
You are an amazing player Dwayne. I love watching you shoot free throws. What you know about Dirk’s leadership skills is non existent. You don’t have a clue. Your ability to evaluate leadership skills….well you obviously have an overinflated value of your own. Did you take business classes at Marquette ?
Now we know why Charles won’t put you in his 5.
And Im pissed for one more reason. Im going to have to miss our next game against the Heat on Feb 22. A previous engagement. I guess its just a missed opportunity to bring a local business class to the game and try to let them interview you about your leadership skills.
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NIK is putting his parents money on the Heat to win the east next year
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Hack is stealing jokes again
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I'm mad that Brian may have exposed me
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It sounds like ur mad right about now, I'm just speakin sports n u catchin feelins stealin citizen-y lines out of desperation like an autistic trick
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Dr. Maimon in the house lol
aint nobody mad but u homeboy
go Celtics
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I aint the 1 tryna disguise my anger by stealin jokes
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I am thinking of locking this thread, but people keep posting here. Can we at least let it die and move to the Cleveland thread?
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loul deng is "too african" to join the atlanta hawks smh
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In a city with a HUGE African population... LOL (Atlanta has a large African population, and I mean African, not African American.)
If he'd join the T-Wolves, they'd market that so fast to the African population here.
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remember when NIK said that Miami would have a better record than the Cavs this year? lol
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remember when NIK said that Miami would have a better record than the Cavs this year? lol
it's not that far off
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Miami @ Cavs tonight
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Miami might fall out of the playoffs and Ferry deserves GM of the year. Good call on not getting Deng.
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/21/8821693/los-angeles-lakers-dwyane-wade-nba-free-agency-2015
maybe
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/21/8821693/los-angeles-lakers-dwyane-wade-nba-free-agency-2015
maybe
can't wait to see NIK's mock lineup tomrw
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Wade and Kobe together might combine for 60 games.
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IT AINT GOIN DOWN...MY MOCK LINE-UP REMAINS THE SAME
PG RONDO...MO WILLIAMS
SG CLARKSON...SWAGGY P/ELLINGTON
SF KOBE...D.CAROLL
PF RANDLE...ED DAVIS/R.KELLY
C M.GASOL...J.OKAFOR
+27TH & 34TH PICK
2016 CHAMPS
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Wade and Kobe together might combine for 60 games.
i'd give them 70
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watcH the sig
3 weeks more til preseason starts lol
Dats gay guy lik diz threat
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watcH the sig
3 weeks more til preseason starts lol
This threat iz so gay like Sccif