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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Layeth THe Smacketh Down on September 25, 2010, 01:07:01 PM
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http://www.ballerstatus.com/2010/09/24/ice-cube-says-dre-went-mia-calls-relationship-distant/
What the fuck is with Dre? I'm gettin real tired of this guy's bullshit.
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basicaly, dre works solely with Aftermath & shady-artists and/or new up-and-coming artists. he might slide a beat or two, or mix a record, for some of these other rappers.. but he doesn't "work" wit them like that..
everybody is contributing shit to his Detox-album, but none of these rappers are gettin production for their own shit, from the good ol doctor.. lol
look at Snoop's latest albums? haha
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it is weird, coz they've always seemed to have great chemistry
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This is just another case of Dre starting something and then not finishing it. It really seems like the only artist Dre is willing to work with is Eminem. How many more stories do we have to hear about Dre not finishing something. If he doesn't want to work he should just retire already and stop bullshitting
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lol wat u expect? dre's a loner ever since 2002 or 2003, his loss unfortunetly
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
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Dre's just lazy.
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just how dre get down.2pac called dre out in 96 when pac said he tired of dre takeing 3 years just 2 make one fucking song etc.so its no suprise.dre beendoing this shit since he was on death row
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
The only ego getting in the way is Dre's. Its pretty much been shown that this is all his choice. Helter Skelter, the Dre/Snoop album, N.W.A reunion, etc. were all cancelled cause "Dre didn't want to do it anymore." Fucking shame.
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
The only ego getting in the way is Dre's. Its pretty much been shown that this is all his choice. Helter Skelter, the Dre/Snoop album, N.W.A reunion, etc. were all cancelled cause "Dre didn't want to do it anymore." Fucking shame.
This is why the west needs more and more producers working on projects.
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Dre doesn't want to work on musid, period.
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
if it was up to cube, there would have been more collaborations
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lol wat u expect? dre's a loner ever since 2002 or 2003, his loss unfortunetly
Id say it was more the other way, snoop needs dre more than dre needs snoop.
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Dre wants to make money. Eminem makes him more money than anybody else can. End of story.
Plus don't you listen to Eminem's lyrics? He gives Dre props all the time. Eminem has a huge ego, but he always puts himself second to Dre. If Dre works with Snoop & Cube, he has to deal with them acting like they on the same level or above Dre.
I'm not saying that's why, but that could definitely be a factor.
& above all, what the fuck do we want to hear spin-offs of old songs? Let's hear some new shit; POWER TO DRE. 8)
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Dre wants to make money. Eminem makes him more money than anybody else can. End of story.
Plus don't you listen to Eminem's lyrics? He gives Dre props all the time. Eminem has a huge ego, but he always puts himself second to Dre. If Dre works with Snoop & Cube, he has to deal with them acting like they on the same level or above Dre.
I'm not saying that's why, but that could definitely be a factor.
& above all, what the fuck do we want to hear spin-offs of old songs? Let's hear some new shit; POWER TO DRE. 8)
Snoop always gives Dre his just due. The only difference is Eminem has never had a down time with Dre as far as him not contributing to his albums due to him trying to chase him down like others have.
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
True that. Same thing goes for all the west coast artists, they could reign supreme again if they wanted to but nearly everybody has beef with each other :grumpy:
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it is such a loss to the music world that these big egos get in the way and stop dope music from happening
True that. Same thing goes for all the west coast artists, they could reign supreme again if they wanted to but nearly everybody has beef with each other :grumpy:
I say: BRING ON SOME FRESH TALENT. One of many reasons why the westcoast is in a standstill is because too many fans/ people live in the past.
Push for new exciting music! Or, you can wait forever for Detox 8)
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Eminem has a huge ego, but he always puts himself second to Dre.
why do u think Eminems got a big ego? he is known for being the most humble superstar of all these trip-a-names in HipHop. he doesn't even portray himself as the greaatest or a big boss, or anything.. a real down to earth-guy..
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Dre hasn't dropped a dope beat in like 5 years anyway, who cares.
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This shit has been going on forever. But here's why its super gay. We've been teased with Dre / Cube reunions since N.W.A. broke up...
1. Remember Cube said he wanted to get Dre to produce on Death Certificate? Didn't happen.
2. Then we get "Natural Born Killaz" then NO Helter Skelter album.
3. Fast forward to 99 - (the last time we'll probably ever hear them working together again); N.W.A. reunites for "Hello" and "Chin Check" with Snoop Frogg. But "Not These Niggaz Again" never drops and Dre doesn't put Cube or Ren on 2001 (please don't try to include those 4 seconds of Mc Ren talking).
4. Now they're in their mid 40's and we're still getting the run around! Cube said he wanted Dre on the album. Then he said he was in the studio with him. Then we even heard reports that Dre was in the studio with JUST Cube, Snoop, and Game - so clearly all West Coast fans are anxious. So Dre gets our hopes up then just randomly ignores all 3 of those artist?
Fuck it, I'm starting to think 2Pac was right. Maybe Dre can't get any work done cuz he's too busy suckin dick and eatin pussy.
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If he doesn't want to work with Cube or Snoop, I can't blame him.
Snoop hasn't dropped anything worth listening to in years. The new Cube album is dreadfull. Atleast the only artist coming out of the aftermath camp (Eminem) has some level of concistensy.
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Sad shit, But at the same time both Cube & Snoop should just move on.
Dre is high class pussy, they can't afford her anymore.
Why not colab w/ DJ Pooh, he did great music with both?
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Dre has too many projects. He worked with Snoop a few albums ago.
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Dre hasn't dropped a dope beat in like 5 years anyway, who cares.
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It's easy to understand, Cube or Snoop ask him to work with them for their album, Dre said Ok lets do it, then he ask to listening what they have ever recorded, then realize he dont want to put his name on these wack records...
If it was me I did the same...
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Sad shit, But at the same time both Cube & Snoop should just move on.
Dre is high class pussy, they can't afford her anymore.
Why not colab w/ DJ Pooh, he did great music with both?
dj pooh stopped producing some years ago... he writes movie-scripts nowadays...
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Dre doesn't fuck with the west, sooner people realize this the less disappointed they will be when Detox drops
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Dre's basically retired at this point. Look how old he is. He's past his prime. Time for somebody new to step up and be the new production king of the West. We'll keep waiting for somebody to do so...
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fuck gay ass dre
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I'll always appreciate Cube in his prime for rap music and Friday movies
but his other acting in general is :-/ and his music lately is ass
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
I find that hard to believe, unless 99% of the shit he makes he refuses to put out. The amount of music he comes out with is that of a producer who's only in the studio a few times a year.
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who cares...
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
I find that hard to believe, unless 99% of the shit he makes he refuses to put out. The amount of music he comes out with is that of a producer who's only in the studio a few times a year.
Sure it can be hard to believe. But each month you hear about some of the biggest artists being in his studio, doing songs, listening to detox. Each time he works with a new artist(gage,bishop) theyre always saying how much time he spends in the studio. Dr dre not releasing stuff isnt really a new thing tho, people been talking about unreleased stuff by him for decades. His way of working like this is probaly why everybody still check for him tho. But my impression of Dre is that he spends lots of time in the studio, mixing, making beats, producing - I really doubt lazyness has anything to do with the lack of stuff getting out there..
Dosnt seem like skills on the mic is enough if youre going to come out under dre, he dropped lots of lyricists. He produce superstars with a background that they can build on. Sucks for us, the fans, but I guess under the process of producing an artist Dre sees who's gonna sell records, and whos not..
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Ny problem is Dre has no follow through. He starts all these projects and then doesn't finish them. Cube even said it. Dre started to work on some songs with him and then just dissapeared.
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Will either appear on Detox?
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Sad shit, But at the same time both Cube & Snoop should just move on.
Dre is high class pussy, they can't afford her anymore.
Why not colab w/ DJ Pooh, he did great music with both?
dj pooh stopped producing some years ago... he writes movie-scripts nowadays...
I was being lazy bro, You can add any of the numerous Producers they have both consistently worked with over the years -Dre.
They will/have always been fine, Would be cool for Dre to throw them a bone... But they don't need him.
But Detox will suffer with out Snoop, IMO... Just me.
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Detox for Dre is like that chick with the bomb ass pussy that you keep on speed dial and drop everything to see when you get the urge to be with her lol. Almost every time a artist leaks out that they are working with Dre, he then gets this want to work on the project again and drops everything to do it.
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
I find that hard to believe, unless 99% of the shit he makes he refuses to put out. The amount of music he comes out with is that of a producer who's only in the studio a few times a year.
Sure it can be hard to believe. But each month you hear about some of the biggest artists being in his studio, doing songs, listening to detox. Each time he works with a new artist(gage,bishop) theyre always saying how much time he spends in the studio. Dr dre not releasing stuff isnt really a new thing tho, people been talking about unreleased stuff by him for decades. His way of working like this is probaly why everybody still check for him tho. But my impression of Dre is that he spends lots of time in the studio, mixing, making beats, producing - I really doubt lazyness has anything to do with the lack of stuff getting out there..
Dosnt seem like skills on the mic is enough if youre going to come out under dre, he dropped lots of lyricists. He produce superstars with a background that they can build on. Sucks for us, the fans, but I guess under the process of producing an artist Dre sees who's gonna sell records, and whos not..
He hasn't produced a new artist since the Game, which was 5 years ago. So even if he's spending his time working on music that will never get released, he's still not accomplishing anything. All these people who claim to have been in the studio with him amount to squat if nothing is coming out of it.
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
I find that hard to believe, unless 99% of the shit he makes he refuses to put out. The amount of music he comes out with is that of a producer who's only in the studio a few times a year.
Sure it can be hard to believe. But each month you hear about some of the biggest artists being in his studio, doing songs, listening to detox. Each time he works with a new artist(gage,bishop) theyre always saying how much time he spends in the studio. Dr dre not releasing stuff isnt really a new thing tho, people been talking about unreleased stuff by him for decades. His way of working like this is probaly why everybody still check for him tho. But my impression of Dre is that he spends lots of time in the studio, mixing, making beats, producing - I really doubt lazyness has anything to do with the lack of stuff getting out there..
Dosnt seem like skills on the mic is enough if youre going to come out under dre, he dropped lots of lyricists. He produce superstars with a background that they can build on. Sucks for us, the fans, but I guess under the process of producing an artist Dre sees who's gonna sell records, and whos not..
He hasn't produced a new artist since the Game, which was 5 years ago. So even if he's spending his time working on music that will never get released, he's still not accomplishing anything. All these people who claim to have been in the studio with him amount to squat if nothing is coming out of it.
His last released new artist was the game, the last 2 niggaz he was working with was Bishop, and Slim Da Mobster being the latest I think. Which is wierd since I haven't heard shit from him in awhile? did he go Hittman on us?
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But Detox will suffer with out Snoop, IMO... Just me.
Snoop's gonna be on Detox. I just don't think Dre wants to do whole albums on him or Cube when they aren't in his business circle so to speak.
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You can hate it or you can understand it. Dre's in the studio everyday - qoute himself and the artists his working with at given time. He spent years in studios with cube, years with snoop. I can understand him trying new stuff, new artists, scrapping stuff he's not happy with. Why? Because he can. Obviously money dont mather for him, legacy does more. Hes obviously not lazy, hes worked on lots of different artists after em/cube/snoop - Some became xzibit, 50 cent and the game and blew up, some became scrapped like gage and others. He scores movies, pursuiting other venues, headphones,laptops, working with NBA teams. Il agree that he fucks on when he comments on detox, since its always getting postponed - the other projects we always hear him working on and then getting scrapped is always the artist dropping the dr.dre name for hype and create a buss around the project - we have no idea of knowing what dre's thought about the projects are.
Ofcourse we all think its fucked up he dont work more with snoop, cube - cus thats what we love, I can have somewhat of an understanding to him trying to break new artists, new music, and not going back but forward instead...
I find that hard to believe, unless 99% of the shit he makes he refuses to put out. The amount of music he comes out with is that of a producer who's only in the studio a few times a year.
Sure it can be hard to believe. But each month you hear about some of the biggest artists being in his studio, doing songs, listening to detox. Each time he works with a new artist(gage,bishop) theyre always saying how much time he spends in the studio. Dr dre not releasing stuff isnt really a new thing tho, people been talking about unreleased stuff by him for decades. His way of working like this is probaly why everybody still check for him tho. But my impression of Dre is that he spends lots of time in the studio, mixing, making beats, producing - I really doubt lazyness has anything to do with the lack of stuff getting out there..
Dosnt seem like skills on the mic is enough if youre going to come out under dre, he dropped lots of lyricists. He produce superstars with a background that they can build on. Sucks for us, the fans, but I guess under the process of producing an artist Dre sees who's gonna sell records, and whos not..
He hasn't produced a new artist since the Game, which was 5 years ago. So even if he's spending his time working on music that will never get released, he's still not accomplishing anything. All these people who claim to have been in the studio with him amount to squat if nothing is coming out of it.
His last released new artist was the game, the last 2 niggaz he was working with was Bishop, and Slim Da Mobster being the latest I think. Which is wierd since I haven't heard shit from him in awhile? did he go Hittman on us?
That's the problem. The Game was the last artist Aftermath actually pushed. Everyone since then he basically signs, maybe cosigns once in an interview and then they hang around the label waiting to get dropped while he works on Detox and the next Em/50 album.
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who cares...
I really have a feeling if he ever drops DETOX its gonna be str8 garbage. DRE is not perfect and above scrutiny. I'd rather have a collab of Nipsey, Young Maylay and Young Dre than a Snoop Cube Dre reunion.
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But Detox will suffer with out Snoop, IMO... Just me.
Snoop's gonna be on Detox. I just don't think Dre wants to do whole albums on him or Cube when they aren't in his business circle so to speak.
DIPSET
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Speaking of dre, could it be that the west is dying because the lack of producers?
It seems people have been discussing the same producer for 20 years.
Maybe the problem isn't with the rappers but with the producers?
Just some random thought I had a while back.