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Title: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on November 08, 2010, 07:38:58 PM
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Incredible rhymes, production, no filler
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 08, 2010, 07:41:14 PM
naw son u buggin.  truthfully speaking it's rare to be a positive hip hop mc and put out an album in such nature and it be considered classic.  there's only few that have done that and "be" just wasn't 1 of them; it's cool if it's ur personal classic tho.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: dert mcgert on November 08, 2010, 08:18:52 PM
I agree with the topic creator

BE is amazing, and the intro is one of the best intros to a rap album ever
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on November 09, 2010, 10:32:51 AM
it's rare to be a positive hip hop mc and put out an album in such nature and it be considered classic


the fuck?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 09, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
be is a classic and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.


sorry radiopoop, your a cool kid but stick to your waka flockas and your juice mans because its obvious at this point in your life you just cant relate to this kind of sincerity in hip hop.


this is grown man rap...
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: jeromechickenbone on November 09, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
Def a great album, one of the best of the decade. Really cohesive, great raps, beats, etc.

*bumps Chi City profusely loud*
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 09, 2010, 11:10:18 AM
i forgot about this album for a minute, but damn youre right. 5/5 CLASSIC IS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 09, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
be is a classic and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.


sorry radiopoop, your a cool kid but stick to your waka flockas and your juice mans because its obvious at this point in your life you just cant relate to this kind of sincerity in hip hop.


this is grown man rap...


"grown man rap", yeah i've heard that b4.  look, im sorry yall love it but it don't mean i do.  "be" isn't anywhere close to tha classics that's already certified and off no bullshit i actually had "be" on bootleg and I just couldn't get into tha entire thing like that, a couple good tracks but 4 tha most part it was standard.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 10, 2010, 06:51:02 AM
be is a classic and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.


sorry radiopoop, your a cool kid but stick to your waka flockas and your juice mans because its obvious at this point in your life you just cant relate to this kind of sincerity in hip hop.


this is grown man rap...


"grown man rap", yeah i've heard that b4.  look, im sorry yall love it but it don't mean i do.  "be" isn't anywhere close to tha classics that's already certified and off no bullshit i actually had "be" on bootleg and I just couldn't get into tha entire thing like that, a couple good tracks but 4 tha most part it was standard.


like i said this is grown man rap...your still into popping bottles of liqours you cant pronounce and smoking "loud packs" with your pelle grant and your parents money, this shit is for your working stiff that wants to hear about shit he can relate to. this isnt nothing for you to "stunt" to, this isnt anything you can get your "dougie" on with so you cant feel it.

grown man rap...your a young dude. once youve been through some shit soulful music like this may be more appealing.

HEY YOUNG WORLD....THE WORLD IS YOURS
- Slick Rick
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 10, 2010, 06:57:30 AM
be is a classic and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.


sorry radiopoop, your a cool kid but stick to your waka flockas and your juice mans because its obvious at this point in your life you just cant relate to this kind of sincerity in hip hop.


this is grown man rap...


"grown man rap", yeah i've heard that b4.  look, im sorry yall love it but it don't mean i do.  "be" isn't anywhere close to tha classics that's already certified and off no bullshit i actually had "be" on bootleg and I just couldn't get into tha entire thing like that, a couple good tracks but 4 tha most part it was standard.


like i said this is grown man rap...your still into popping bottles of liqours you cant pronounce and smoking "loud packs" with your pelle grant and your parents money, this shit is for your working stiff that wants to hear about shit he can relate to. this isnt nothing for you to "stunt" to, this isnt anything you can get your "dougie" on with so you cant feel it.

grown man rap...your a young dude. once youve been through some shit soulful music like this may be more appealing.

HEY YOUNG WORLD....THE WORLD IS YOURS
- Slick Rick


for the record, listening to rappers come up with new and creative ways to talk about poppin bottles will never get old
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 07:15:53 AM
"once i've been thru some shit..."  


wow son i cant even believe u would disrespect me like that.  if i want to hear some grown man rap i'll put on some Bishop Lamont or better yet I'll read something.  and it's been clear and proven that tha only thing in my playlist isn't "trap hop" or club music so plz fall tha fuck back on assuming what I like and don't like.  I don't like Common, I think he's overrated and the only reason I think he's been so successful is becuz there's been nobody else in that lane of rap that's ever been at that level rapping about what he's been rappin' about.  I like some of Common's music (i really do) but dude isn't MLK or Malcolm, he's just anotha nigga preachin' 2 tha choir about Positive shit (honestly he should just stick to acting).  "The Ressurrection" wasn't even all that great and "Like Water For Chocolate" was so-so and u REALLY have to be in that mood to listen to anything else by him, that "universal" track was my shit tho.  


i'm sorry that i happen to like music that came out yesterday and you despise it, but IT IS possible for a human being to like both - let alone all variations of it (*i'm sorry u weren't informed of that*).  Kanye did his thing but Kanye's made a million better other instrumentals and songs.  You guys sound like this other old ass nigga named "Arthur" that i used to work with, he was a big Common fan and he pretty much said tha same thing about it being "grown man music" but then I'm like just becuz dude is calm and talks about certain issues doesn't automatically make it great just becuz that's the type of shit he's on (same goes 4 u Talib/Madlib fans too).  and honestly, i can't see myself 10/20/30 years down tha line bumpin' Common's albums, it just isn't that interesting to me and it gets stale and u have to be stuck in that mood 2 really get down with it like that, there's other artist who do what he does better that talk about more shit and rap about partying too.  


And that's whut's wrong with u guys, y'all have no rhythm and ur boring and ur lame (u sit on ur asses and i bet your conversations with chicks are very Dry), I wouldn't doubt when you go out you're the guy sitting by himself at tha bar or against the wall watching everybody talkin about "i'm too grown to dance" or some shit like that.  So like I said if that's your thing then fine, i'm not hatin lol, but to say it's a classic becuz it's Common rappin' about shit really only Common raps about is classic is a little bit fanboyish.  All I'm sayin' is if it were really all that good (just Common's music in general) he would have a lot more songs that stick with society instead of "i used to love her", "the people", "the light", and "the bitch in yoo" and u can't blame labels and the media 4 that (u HAVE TO hold the people accountable for something like that and obviously the people aren't talkin that much otherwise Common would be in a bigger spotlight than he is now, it's natural tha way it works out 4 Celebrities, u can only spend so much money investing in urself to make urself only so big, the people carry u, not tha Executives).  I hope dude keeps doin his thing tho, I like whut he stands for and how he carries himself, but his body of work when it comes to his music just isn't there like that.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 07:18:08 AM
for the record, listening to rappers come up with new and creative ways to talk about poppin bottles will never get old


at least ur honest with it and not tryna hold up an imaginary standard of living charade.  some people are just way too conservative with theirselves (and most of it means nothing). 
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 10, 2010, 07:21:12 AM
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Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 07:25:07 AM
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that's perfectly fine but the next time someone says something about Common or the "Be" album just don't get all emotional if someone doesn't like it.  



but if u want me to sum it up [not completely] then I'll say that we live in a moraless society with little standards and a society that doesn't give a fuck about preaching unless you're getting paid to listen.  everybody's going their own direction and artist like Common go their own way and only so many people follow them.  the rest of the world already understands it but unless something changes drastically it'll always go in 1 ear and out the other.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Anunikke on November 10, 2010, 07:28:46 AM
Fuck all the bullshit about grown man music this is just good music.
5/5 classic indeed.

I'll read something.
Stop right there, you know damn well you don't read.

I would also like to be explained how Bishop Lamont makes grown man music.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 10, 2010, 07:57:38 AM
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that's perfectly fine but the next time someone says something about Common or the "Be" album just don't get all emotional if someone doesn't like it.  



but if u want me to sum it up [not completely] then I'll say that we live in a moraless society with little standards and a society that doesn't give a fuck about preaching unless you're getting paid to listen.  everybody's going their own direction and artist like Common go their own way and only so many people follow them.  the rest of the world already understands it but unless something changes drastically it'll always go in 1 ear and out the other.


you shouldnt need to type a screen play to get your point across fam...

you represent only a part of the rap demographic...the screen play writing fake track listing coogi wearing trendy dance step learning fraction of the rap listers and that album almost went plat so that disproves your whole post. in years to come that album will  be looked at as a classic and if he wouldnt have dropped the same year as kanye he would have had the album of that year.

if you wanna talk about passive disposable rap look no further then your own play list you really think in years to come ppl will be talking about waka? i seriously doubt it. with that said i like wakas album. its refreshing to hear music that so void of commercial material. which i ronically is one of the same reasons i love commons be.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 08:18:20 AM
The "screenplay" wasn't even all about Common or "Be" so let's dead that right there (it was more or so an informative message as to why tha genre of hip hop isn't all that popular with the rest of society).  And if I represent only a small demographic (there u go assuming whut I like and listen to again) then it's safe to say that it isn't a Small part it's more like the Majority.  I don't know whut's got u all hot in tha pants this morning but u really need 2 calm tha fuck down.  And if "Be" was gonna be album of the year clearly it would've had a bigger social impact instead of being praised by the SMALL DEMOGRAPHIC of people it was praised by and more people (regardless of their preference of Hip Hop) would be more accepting of that album and it would still be ringing bells to this day, instead it's just held up high by backpack hip hop fans.  Say whut u want about Waka Flocka Flame but dude is doin way bigger things than u r and clearly has a lot more swagg than u have so u kan miss me with that bullshit right there.




And Bishop Lamont does make grown man music, it's just that every song he does doesn't have that "i have morals becuz I'm too serious" vibe to it.  It's all preference really, but as far as the subject at hand goes, "Be" is not a classic, if it wuz like I said it would've been integrated in society a lot more than it iz.  Like i've said b4, i know this is the world wide web but everybody isn't on the computer all tha time (it just appears that way becuz we live our lives attached to our computers).  



If all u c is Teenagers and 20-something year olds when u think about Hip Hop then you really need someone to open that azzhole up and fill it with somethin nasty.  I like Common, I like to hear positive messages, I don't always dance to songs, I don't like every jingle that comes out but I do love Good music and just becuz it's good to a particular demographic of fans doesn't mean it's the best.  Everybody liked "the chronic" in it's day, it's official that "Ready To Die" is a Hip Hop classic, it's official that "Doggystyle" is one of MUSIC's greatest records, but it's not certified that "Be" is any of that.  Don't get mad at the messenger.  
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Action! on November 10, 2010, 08:35:13 AM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist. 
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 10, 2010, 08:44:35 AM
And Bishop Lamont does make grown man music, it's just that every song he does doesn't have that "i have morals becuz I'm too serious" vibe to it.  

yeah i think a lot of folks on here seem to think that a positive message with morals = grown man music and everything else = not

lemme tell you guys somethin, about a year ago 9th wonder used the phrase "grown man music" and you know what album he was describing? DEEPER THAN RAP

now if someone on here said that folks would tear us to pieces, aint that right? but it was 9th... so what do you folks make of that?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Paul on November 10, 2010, 08:51:39 AM
Great album. 8/10 for me.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist.  


I don't think Common gets "hated on", I just think that people don't really care.  Common is kinda 1 of those artist u can't get mad at unless dude starts poppin up with "i shot a nigga in tha face with ak47 becuz I'm hot" raps or "all bitches ain't shit one less bitch" music.  Common's a soul brotha, it's kinda hard 2 hate him or dislike anything he does/puts out.  
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 09:14:29 AM
And for the record "Go" is my shit, that shit ain't gon' fade no time soon.  So plz don't take my criticism as haterizm lol.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: K.Dub on November 10, 2010, 09:18:37 AM
Grown man shit right there.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Action! on November 10, 2010, 06:09:59 PM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist.  


I don't think Common gets "hated on", I just think that people don't really care.  Common is kinda 1 of those artist u can't get mad at unless dude starts poppin up with "i shot a nigga in tha face with ak47 becuz I'm hot" raps or "all bitches ain't shit one less bitch" music.  Common's a soul brotha, it's kinda hard 2 hate him or dislike anything he does/puts out.  

I disagree.  In my time I've seen people hate on him for both Universal Mind Control & Electric Circus.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 10, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist.  


I don't think Common gets "hated on", I just think that people don't really care.  Common is kinda 1 of those artist u can't get mad at unless dude starts poppin up with "i shot a nigga in tha face with ak47 becuz I'm hot" raps or "all bitches ain't shit one less bitch" music.  Common's a soul brotha, it's kinda hard 2 hate him or dislike anything he does/puts out.  

I disagree.  In my time I've seen people hate on him for both Universal Mind Control & Electric Circus.


well they're just haters then.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: D-Nice on November 10, 2010, 07:05:39 PM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist.  


I don't think Common gets "hated on", I just think that people don't really care.  Common is kinda 1 of those artist u can't get mad at unless dude starts poppin up with "i shot a nigga in tha face with ak47 becuz I'm hot" raps or "all bitches ain't shit one less bitch" music.  Common's a soul brotha, it's kinda hard 2 hate him or dislike anything he does/puts out.  

I disagree.  In my time I've seen people hate on him for both Universal Mind Control & Electric Circus.

Those albums were cool but just were a different vibe then his earlier work.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 10, 2010, 10:20:40 PM
Common is dope and has shown he can switch it up but he always get hates when he wants to try something different.  I'm a fan of his music and tracks like G.O.D (Gaining One's Definition) hit home hard just like Bishop lamont's track like Everyday or Can't Figure It Out.  Both are dope artist.  


I don't think Common gets "hated on", I just think that people don't really care.  Common is kinda 1 of those artist u can't get mad at unless dude starts poppin up with "i shot a nigga in tha face with ak47 becuz I'm hot" raps or "all bitches ain't shit one less bitch" music.  Common's a soul brotha, it's kinda hard 2 hate him or dislike anything he does/puts out.  

I disagree.  In my time I've seen people hate on him for both Universal Mind Control & Electric Circus.


well they're just haters then.

umc is the biggest pile of shit ive ever heard, and i like common
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 11, 2010, 06:08:46 AM
grown man music means nothing more then music that everyone and anyone can relate to...no over the top thug posturing but that dont mean theres no thug messages or stories in the music.

i consider artists like big krit and david banner to make grown man music and he did 9mm and all kinds of other ignorant stuff...but when you listen to mississippi the album you also here a lot of politically charged material etc.

its all about balance...grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.

Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Paul on November 11, 2010, 09:30:28 AM
^^ good point.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 11, 2010, 10:36:29 AM
grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.


1st off.... People like u are going OVER BOARD with all of these GucciMane/BrickSquad references... it's really pathetic.



2nd.... That's really all they talk about is shit that happens in tha street, but people like u wouldn't know that becuz most of the music you ever get 2 hear u get from this forum, the radio, and tv.  i'm sorry guy, but until you're ready to admit that you were wrong about 99% of rappers from tha south that appear on tha outside to be mainstream but really aren't then all of your negative comments about them are revoked.  I'm not sayin that they put out the best material the world has ever heard but if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 12, 2010, 05:40:07 AM
grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.


1st off.... People like u are going OVER BOARD with all of these GucciMane/BrickSquad references... it's really pathetic.



2nd.... That's really all they talk about is shit that happens in tha street, but people like u wouldn't know that becuz most of the music you ever get 2 hear u get from this forum, the radio, and tv.  i'm sorry guy, but until you're ready to admit that you were wrong about 99% of rappers from tha south that appear on tha outside to be mainstream but really aren't then all of your negative comments about them are revoked.  I'm not sayin that they put out the best material the world has ever heard but if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1


its not about putting an artist like common over waka or gucci and trust me when i say there music stays in my deck too...my musical tastes are very diverse and im just being real with you. young dudes like you be thinking that the "trap star" shit is real and its not, its a fabrication of a life style...a very small percentage of rappers OR drug dealers actually live like this but its there goal to live like this one day.

the "grown man rap" that im speaking of talks to your average 9 to five cat with realistic everyday struggles. I was one of the first niggas on this forum that was pumpin up gucci mane
but your not gonna sit here and tell me that guccis music is as relevant as common when people are still writing about the importance of songs like "i used to love her" and most people dont even  remember the name of gucci manes last album.

Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 12, 2010, 06:29:16 AM
grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.


1st off.... People like u are going OVER BOARD with all of these GucciMane/BrickSquad references... it's really pathetic.



2nd.... That's really all they talk about is shit that happens in tha street, but people like u wouldn't know that becuz most of the music you ever get 2 hear u get from this forum, the radio, and tv.  i'm sorry guy, but until you're ready to admit that you were wrong about 99% of rappers from tha south that appear on tha outside to be mainstream but really aren't then all of your negative comments about them are revoked.  I'm not sayin that they put out the best material the world has ever heard but if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1


its not about putting an artist like common over waka or gucci and trust me when i say there music stays in my deck too...my musical tastes are very diverse and im just being real with you. young dudes like you be thinking that the "trap star" shit is real and its not, its a fabrication of a life style...a very small percentage of rappers OR drug dealers actually live like this but its there goal to live like this one day.

the "grown man rap" that im speaking of talks to your average 9 to five cat with realistic everyday struggles. I was one of the first niggas on this forum that was pumpin up gucci mane
but your not gonna sit here and tell me that guccis music is as relevant as common when people are still writing about the importance of songs like "i used to love her" and most people dont even  remember the name of gucci manes last album.


you have to be joking when u talk about "grown man" shit when Elano has pretty much taken over your life.  and wassup witchu comin' at me like i'm some 12 year old like i dont know tha difference between a real rapper and an actor.  i think it's safe 2 say that most rappers that actually do rap about trappin nowadays PROBABLY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH (but just with some exaggerations here and there), it's a fuckin' recession.  you're tryna take some moral high road with me becuz u rock with Common harder than u do (let's say...) OJ Da Juiceman.  





And a regular cat with a 9 to 5 most likely DOES NOT PLAY THAT Conscience MC shit (unless you're pushin 60 or that was already your preference in the 1st place), at least that's how it iz around my way (i'm actually out here with the grown men that u talk about with the 9-5's or no real job at all and BELIEVE ME that they aren't bangin' out 2 Common like that (it iz Gucci and all them other niggaz u think only the kids play).  So yes BrickSquad's musik is as relevent as Common's music.  






Wassup witchu on that hater shit lately?  I don't get paid 2 put these niggaz on so I'll just leave it at tha FACT that YOU prefer Common's music over Gucci's music.  I can't take u that serious by tha way u act towards Elano with all of your rants and computer hacking.  So miss me with all of that and call it a day.  You're a geek Petey, there's just certain shit that you're blind to and can't understand and music is obviously 1 of them.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 12, 2010, 07:26:28 AM
Another screenplay from the aspiring brick squad weed carrier.

Conscious doesn't equal "grown man rap" necessarily my young coogi wearing homie..and what the fuck does elano have to do with this convo?

Someone here caught feelings like a virgin on prom night.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on November 13, 2010, 06:31:48 AM
"grown ass music" is subjective, let's just leave it at that
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: weedhead on November 16, 2010, 05:34:53 AM
"once i've been thru some shit..."  


wow son i cant even believe u would disrespect me like that.  if i want to hear some grown man rap i'll put on some Bishop Lamont or better yet I'll read something.  and it's been clear and proven that tha only thing in my playlist isn't "trap hop" or club music so plz fall tha fuck back on assuming what I like and don't like.  I don't like Common, I think he's overrated and the only reason I think he's been so successful is becuz there's been nobody else in that lane of rap that's ever been at that level rapping about what he's been rappin' about.  I like some of Common's music (i really do) but dude isn't MLK or Malcolm, he's just anotha nigga preachin' 2 tha choir about Positive shit (honestly he should just stick to acting).  "The Ressurrection" wasn't even all that great and "Like Water For Chocolate" was so-so and u REALLY have to be in that mood to listen to anything else by him, that "universal" track was my shit tho.  


i'm sorry that i happen to like music that came out yesterday and you despise it, but IT IS possible for a human being to like both - let alone all variations of it (*i'm sorry u weren't informed of that*).  Kanye did his thing but Kanye's made a million better other instrumentals and songs.  You guys sound like this other old ass nigga named "Arthur" that i used to work with, he was a big Common fan and he pretty much said tha same thing about it being "grown man music" but then I'm like just becuz dude is calm and talks about certain issues doesn't automatically make it great just becuz that's the type of shit he's on (same goes 4 u Talib/Madlib fans too).  and honestly, i can't see myself 10/20/30 years down tha line bumpin' Common's albums, it just isn't that interesting to me and it gets stale and u have to be stuck in that mood 2 really get down with it like that, there's other artist who do what he does better that talk about more shit and rap about partying too.  


And that's whut's wrong with u guys, y'all have no rhythm and ur boring and ur lame (u sit on ur asses and i bet your conversations with chicks are very Dry), I wouldn't doubt when you go out you're the guy sitting by himself at tha bar or against the wall watching everybody talkin about "i'm too grown to dance" or some shit like that.  So like I said if that's your thing then fine, i'm not hatin lol, but to say it's a classic becuz it's Common rappin' about shit really only Common raps about is classic is a little bit fanboyish.  All I'm sayin' is if it were really all that good (just Common's music in general) he would have a lot more songs that stick with society instead of "i used to love her", "the people", "the light", and "the bitch in yoo" and u can't blame labels and the media 4 that (u HAVE TO hold the people accountable for something like that and obviously the people aren't talkin that much otherwise Common would be in a bigger spotlight than he is now, it's natural tha way it works out 4 Celebrities, u can only spend so much money investing in urself to make urself only so big, the people carry u, not tha Executives).  I hope dude keeps doin his thing tho, I like whut he stands for and how he carries himself, but his body of work when it comes to his music just isn't there like that.
Bishop Lamont!!come on cuzz...i know your young ,but dont be so mislead. :-\
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 16, 2010, 08:08:39 AM
wow (a week later tho)... but age don't have nothing 2 do with it at all.  i just think it's a little irrational to call something a classic when it was only praised by so many.  this is tha 1st time since it 1st came out that i've seen some1 mention that this album is a "classic".  i used BL as an example (obviously there's a gang of other artist including Common that'r on tha same page), but this album should've done more for Hip Hop and society if it was such a classic (i remember tha beats being used in commercials and shit like that but it ain't like Common made em). 





i hear y'all but no, this was indeed a good record from Com' but as far as Hip Hop is concerned it just isn't a classic... this album will be forgotten in another 4 or 5 years (unless Common starts getting more exposure as a celebrity and he does it big, which i doubt - i never say anything is impossible but with this nigga...).  Everybody knows about tha established classics already but i've yet 2 hear a squeek outta anybody about this being a Hip Hop classic (except 4 in this thread like i said and that other nigga named Arthur), i don't count what artists say about their NEW music when it comes out becuz it's all hype at tha end of tha day until tha numbers come out (i.e. Alex Da Kid).
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: weedhead on November 17, 2010, 07:10:52 AM
grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.


1st off.... People like u are going OVER BOARD with all of these GucciMane/BrickSquad references... it's really pathetic.



2nd.... That's really all they talk about is shit that happens in tha street, but people like u wouldn't know that becuz most of the music you ever get 2 hear u get from this forum, the radio, and tv.  i'm sorry guy, but until you're ready to admit that you were wrong about 99% of rappers from tha south that appear on tha outside to be mainstream but really aren't then all of your negative comments about them are revoked.  I'm not sayin that they put out the best material the world has ever heard but if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1


its not about putting an artist like common over waka or gucci and trust me when i say there music stays in my deck too...my musical tastes are very diverse and im just being real with you. young dudes like you be thinking that the "trap star" shit is real and its not, its a fabrication of a life style...a very small percentage of rappers OR drug dealers actually live like this but its there goal to live like this one day.

the "grown man rap" that im speaking of talks to your average 9 to five cat with realistic everyday struggles. I was one of the first niggas on this forum that was pumpin up gucci mane
but your not gonna sit here and tell me that guccis music is as relevant as common when people are still writing about the importance of songs like "i used to love her" and most people dont even  remember the name of gucci manes last album.


Im from the souf,and i dont even know none of gucci manes lps...but i only fucks with (ti,jeezy,face,geto boys,bun b,ect.)brothas thats talking about something...gucci,waka :bomb:
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: weedhead on November 17, 2010, 07:15:47 AM
grown man music is a reflection of real life and music like gucci and waka are a reflection of a small percentage of ppls real lifes.


1st off.... People like u are going OVER BOARD with all of these GucciMane/BrickSquad references... it's really pathetic.



2nd.... That's really all they talk about is shit that happens in tha street, but people like u wouldn't know that becuz most of the music you ever get 2 hear u get from this forum, the radio, and tv.  i'm sorry guy, but until you're ready to admit that you were wrong about 99% of rappers from tha south that appear on tha outside to be mainstream but really aren't then all of your negative comments about them are revoked.  I'm not sayin that they put out the best material the world has ever heard but if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1


its not about putting an artist like common over waka or gucci and trust me when i say there music stays in my deck too...my musical tastes are very diverse and im just being real with you. young dudes like you be thinking that the "trap star" shit is real and its not, its a fabrication of a life style...a very small percentage of rappers OR drug dealers actually live like this but its there goal to live like this one day.

the "grown man rap" that im speaking of talks to your average 9 to five cat with realistic everyday struggles. I was one of the first niggas on this forum that was pumpin up gucci mane
but your not gonna sit here and tell me that guccis music is as relevant as common when people are still writing about the importance of songs like "i used to love her" and most people dont even  remember the name of gucci manes last album.


you have to be joking when u talk about "grown man" shit when Elano has pretty much taken over your life.  and wassup witchu comin' at me like i'm some 12 year old like i dont know tha difference between a real rapper and an actor.  i think it's safe 2 say that most rappers that actually do rap about trappin nowadays PROBABLY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH (but just with some exaggerations here and there), it's a fuckin' recession.  you're tryna take some moral high road with me becuz u rock with Common harder than u do (let's say...) OJ Da Juiceman.  





And a regular cat with a 9 to 5 most likely DOES NOT PLAY THAT Conscience MC shit (unless you're pushin 60 or that was already your preference in the 1st place), at least that's how it iz around my way (i'm actually out here with the grown men that u talk about with the 9-5's or no real job at all and BELIEVE ME that they aren't bangin' out 2 Common like that (it iz Gucci and all them other niggaz u think only the kids play).  So yes BrickSquad's musik is as relevent as Common's music.  






Wassup witchu on that hater shit lately?  I don't get paid 2 put these niggaz on so I'll just leave it at tha FACT that YOU prefer Common's music over Gucci's music.  I can't take u that serious by tha way u act towards Elano with all of your rants and computer hacking.  So miss me with all of that and call it a day.  You're a geek Petey, there's just certain shit that you're blind to and can't understand and music is obviously 1 of them.
im not taking sides..but damn lil.homie u missing the whole point. :grumpy:
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 17, 2010, 03:36:45 PM
Tha point is to shit on everything I say and try 2 brainwash me with bullshit.  I been got it.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: weedhead on November 19, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Yeah it was a (neo rap) classic..i drove to Amsterdam listening to this cd.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Black Excellence on November 21, 2010, 09:54:06 AM
a classic album indeed.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Knett on November 21, 2010, 03:34:53 PM
I had doubts at first, but if you look at the rest of the popular rap that came out that year, you have to give it to Common..
Kanye revitalised his shit right there..

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K1NG PETEY:
if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1[/unquote]

Are you serious? I mean no disrespect but you really can't hear the difference? Down south hip hop is great, but I don't consider Brick Squad music to be part of this. Sorry. I tried listening, but it just sounds like some illiterate bunch of guys raping a beat.
If you rap on a record, at least act like you're making an effort. To each his own, but I'll never listen to that.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Sir Petey on November 24, 2010, 02:22:58 PM
this thread proves that radiolube and his brand of preferred hip hop is nothing more then pizza roll/hot pocket rap.

heat, eat and then shit....repeat with the next trendy fad trap rapper.


kind of sad actually.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: M Dogg™ on November 24, 2010, 02:30:53 PM
Looking back??? It was classic in 2005, and it's classic now. Side not, I think Finding Forever is actually better than Be, but that's me personally, both though are still getting played today, great replay value on both albums.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Knett on November 24, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
this thread proves that radiolube and his brand of preferred hip hop is nothing more then pizza roll/hot pocket rap.
heat, eat and then shit....repeat with the next trendy fad trap rapper.
kind of sad actually.


My previous post wasn't finished yet.
You said this:
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if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1
You just lost all credibility. Did you really put BrickSquad along with classic hiphop like Doggystyle etc.?

Gucci will never go Platinum.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 24, 2010, 10:55:48 PM
this thread proves that radiolube and his brand of preferred hip hop is nothing more then pizza roll/hot pocket rap.
heat, eat and then shit....repeat with the next trendy fad trap rapper.
kind of sad actually.


My previous post wasn't finished yet.
You said this:
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if u can get down with all of tha CLASSIC west coast/east coast/down south hip hop (like Doggystyle for example) then there's just no reason whutsover that you can't get down with BrickSquad or anybody else that you're sleepin' on..... on 2 tha nex 1
You just lost all credibility. Did you really put BrickSquad along with classic hiphop like Doggystyle etc.?

Gucci will never go Platinum.

yeah because platinum = good. thats why hammer, nelly and vanilla ice all went plat. cornball
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Knett on November 24, 2010, 11:58:03 PM
I agree that sales have little to do with talent if you look at the albums of the last decade and their sales.

But if you compare gonna compare it to albums that have been rated classic everywhere and have sold a certain amount of albums that have given them RIAA certification, you can't ignore that.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 25, 2010, 08:34:27 AM
I agree that sales have little to do with talent if you look at the albums of the last decade and their sales.

But if you compare gonna compare it to albums that have been rated classic everywhere and have sold a certain amount of albums that have given them RIAA certification, you can't ignore that.

so basically sales only matter when you decide they do to fit your outdated argument? ok sure
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: theremedy360 on November 25, 2010, 11:28:15 AM
I'd give it 4/5, very good album.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Knett on November 26, 2010, 03:33:54 AM
I agree that sales have little to do with talent if you look at the albums of the last decade and their sales.

But if you compare gonna compare it to albums that have been rated classic everywhere and have sold a certain amount of albums that have given them RIAA certification, you can't ignore that.

so basically sales only matter when you decide they do to fit your outdated argument? ok sure

Listen, to me the album is classic when it is considered classic worldwide. I can go to Japan and bump some Snoop or whatever. Try that shit with Gucci Mane.. see what happens.

The biggest difference is that Brick Squad is only for a minor group of hiphop fans, all negativity aside. You either like it or you don't. I personally don't like Lil Wayne that much, but I have to admit he has made an enormous impact on hiphop with classic songs.
Name one song that has made a real impact on hiphop by Brick Squad.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: SCREWFACE on November 26, 2010, 07:46:15 AM
I agree that sales have little to do with talent if you look at the albums of the last decade and their sales.

But if you compare gonna compare it to albums that have been rated classic everywhere and have sold a certain amount of albums that have given them RIAA certification, you can't ignore that.

so basically sales only matter when you decide they do to fit your outdated argument? ok sure

Listen, to me the album is classic when it is considered classic worldwide. I can go to Japan and bump some Snoop or whatever. Try that shit with Gucci Mane.. see what happens.

The biggest difference is that Brick Squad is only for a minor group of hiphop fans, all negativity aside. You either like it or you don't. I personally don't like Lil Wayne that much, but I have to admit he has made an enormous impact on hiphop with classic songs.
Name one song that has made a real impact on hiphop by Brick Squad.

im not talking about brick squad im talking about the dumb sales related argument. however brick squad are extremely relevant in the world of hip-hop today wether u like it or not. way more relevant than snoop is now actually. im not saying theyve made a classic, im not saying theyve made the impact doggystyle made, but they are way more relevant than snoop right now.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's safe to say that Be was a 5/5 CLASSIC
Post by: Knett on November 30, 2010, 12:40:38 AM
I agree that sales have little to do with talent if you look at the albums of the last decade and their sales.
But if you compare gonna compare it to albums that have been rated classic everywhere and have sold a certain amount of albums that have given them RIAA certification, you can't ignore that.
so basically sales only matter when you decide they do to fit your outdated argument? ok sure
Listen, to me the album is classic when it is considered classic worldwide. I can go to Japan and bump some Snoop or whatever. Try that shit with Gucci Mane.. see what happens.
The biggest difference is that Brick Squad is only for a minor group of hiphop fans, all negativity aside. You either like it or you don't. I personally don't like Lil Wayne that much, but I have to admit he has made an enormous impact on hiphop with classic songs.
Name one song that has made a real impact on hiphop by Brick Squad.
im not talking about brick squad im talking about the dumb sales related argument. however brick squad are extremely relevant in the world of hip-hop today wether u like it or not. way more relevant than snoop is now actually. im not saying theyve made a classic, im not saying theyve made the impact doggystyle made, but they are way more relevant than snoop right now.
When Snoop etc. came out back in the day, everybody knew them. Brick Squad came out, and outside of the U.S. almost nobody knows them. To me this is proof that there is a difference. Nowadays everybody can get famous in the U.S.