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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Will_B on November 19, 2010, 04:54:15 PM
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DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Prodigy & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady :-*
Source: Itunes (K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
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Take that many people to write one song in 10 years?? lol
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Music Is Serious Yall: DJ Quik 8)
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Prodigy of mobb deep ?
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That's my guess yes. I've cross referenced all the names and this one convinced me it's him:
Mobb Deep ft Lloyd Banks "Stole Something" (A. Johnson, K. Muchita, C. Lloyd, M. Jones) (Prod by Havoc)
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Why didn't you just bump my thread? Asshole... :P
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Why didn't you just bump my thread? Asshole... :P
here we go...
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Why didn't you just bump my thread? Asshole... :P
No offence was meant. I wanted to start a fresh topic as I'd decoded the writing credits.
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This is how I take it:
DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz = Production
Blaqthoven = Sly's part, he said so on Twitter (although I think he was trying to say that it was actually him on the track)
Kobe = His own part
Prodigy & Krondon = Verses and maybe the hook?
So Snoop wrote nothing??? And if Krondon and Prodigy are getting their verses used then that means we are probably in for a crazy credit list on the album.
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Blaqthoven really? wtf?! that would be hella great but I can't do nothing but doubt that. I would never expect Dre to holla at Blaqthoven (even tho I think he is a great artist).
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I don't care who did what as long as the final product is dope and I wasn't really feeling it so on to the next one.
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Prodigy could also be a lyric sample too as original artists get credit for that too.
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Prodigy could also be a lyric sample too as original artists get credit for that too.
thats what i was thinkin.
LOL :P
u fucking guys are over-exaggerating!!
nothin is revealed, this is just soap-opera gossip at its finest.. :D
u can get writer-credit on a song if u composed one sampled melody.. song-writing equals writing/ publishing..
u dont have to literarly write the lyrics..
Prodigy never ghostwrote anything in his life, to my knowledge..
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Yes, it seems a little odd that they would have Prodigy ghostwriting songs when he's been locked up.
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(K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
Well... after a quick google search, I can't find Prodigy listed as A. Johnson II anywhere. Is he the second?
Do we know of another A. Johnsons??? lol. I'm curious as to who wrote Dre's and Snoops veres....
I don't see Krondon listed as Marvin Jones III anywhere either.
Blaqthoven is a dope producer. Wouldn't be surprised if he had something to do with the beat.
Wow so.... the most plausible thing I can think of: Kobe and Blaqthoven wrote the sung parts. Khalil and Dre made the beat. Danny Keyz played keys. Something prodigy once said is sampled somewhere and for some reason he is getting credit for one sampled line. The leaves Krondon as the writer of BOTH verses??? damn. That came out of no where.
We hear that Bishop is writing for the album. Then DOC is also writing. Then Slim Tha Mobster. Then Eminem. Then TI, Jay-Z, Drake....
Imagine it turns out that Krondon wrote both verses on the lead single for the album.
This is crazy. I mean Dre has been collecting verses for 10 years now...
when the album finally drops, the writer list for Dre's verses is gonna be insane.
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song-writing equals writing/ publishing..
u dont have to literarly write the lyrics..
Well duh ;D
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Prodigy is in Jail like 2 and half years now. ??? ???
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Blaqthoven , Krondon- they are Khalils homies, so that is logical.
remember this? Khalil on the beat, Krondon on the track as SAS and Blaqthoven on the hook...
http://www.youtube.com/v/vGNL3lU8r-w?fs=1&hl=en_US
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thats funny too. A. Johnson II isnt Prodigy.
this is just assuming/ guess.. gossip :laugh:
If i write a song together with 20 other people, and if Dre samples only 1 second of that song (that I wrote) for hsi own shit - then I am (plus, the other 20 people) enitlted legally to writing-credits on Dre's track..
what im tryin to say is,
u cant assume that everybody wrote "the song", just because u have a few names up there.. obviously this is a case like this
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I'm pretty sure A. Johnson II is Slim the mobster.
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Take that many people to write one song in 10 years?? lol
you really think only one song was finished? :P
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Blaqthoven really? wtf?! that would be hella great but I can't do nothing but doubt that. I would never expect Dre to holla at Blaqthoven (even tho I think he is a great artist).
Blaqthoven helped dre on the wash album 2
and i know that they worked 2gether in the near past
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I'm pretty sure A. Johnson II is Slim the mobster.
Hmmm. I've been looking around for Skim Da Mobsters real name but I can't find it referenced anywhere ???
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Blaqthoven really? wtf?! that would be hella great but I can't do nothing but doubt that. I would never expect Dre to holla at Blaqthoven (even tho I think he is a great artist).
Blaqthoven helped dre on the wash album 2
and i know that they worked 2gether in the near past
that's dope actually, thanks for the info.
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i know slim wrote dre's part for this joint that is for sure .. he did alot of writin for detox .. dre laced him with a crazy mansion for his work on this project
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Blaqthoven , Krondon- they are Khalils homies, so that is logical.
remember this? Khalil on the beat, Krondon on the track as SAS and Blaqthoven on the hook...
http://www.youtube.com/v/vGNL3lU8r-w?fs=1&hl=en_US
This song was not produced by Dj Khalil.
Produced by Blaqthoven. It was wrongly credited to Khalil when it was released.
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i know slim wrote dre's part for this joint that is for sure .. he did alot of writin for detox .. dre laced him with a crazy mansion for his work on this project
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damn thats crazy.
I guess Krondon wrote snoop's verse then??
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Not sure if its been said already, but in the event that it is Prodigy (whether he wrote something or is just getting credit for a sample), it would kind of make sense because wasn't Dre quoted as saying he was listening to all of Mobb Deep's shit not too long ago?
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From allmusic -
Prodigy (Albert Johnson, born November 2, 1974)
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damn no c. broadus in the credits. people bash eazy for no writing some of his rhymes. snoop got just as many rhymes he didn't even write.
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From allmusic -
Prodigy (Albert Johnson, born November 2, 1974)
Yup, just checked the album H.N.I.C. and Prodigy is def A Johnson.
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(K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
Well... after a quick google search, I can't find Prodigy listed as A. Johnson II anywhere. Is he the second?
Do we know of another A. Johnsons??? lol. I'm curious as to who wrote Dre's and Snoops veres....
I don't see Krondon listed as Marvin Jones III anywhere either.
Blaqthoven is a dope producer. Wouldn't be surprised if he had something to do with the beat.
Wow so.... the most plausible thing I can think of: Kobe and Blaqthoven wrote the sung parts. Khalil and Dre made the beat. Danny Keyz played keys. Something prodigy once said is sampled somewhere and for some reason he is getting credit for one sampled line. The leaves Krondon as the writer of BOTH verses??? damn. That came out of no where.
We hear that Bishop is writing for the album. Then DOC is also writing. Then Slim Tha Mobster. Then Eminem. Then TI, Jay-Z, Drake....
Imagine it turns out that Krondon wrote both verses on the lead single for the album.
This is crazy. I mean Dre has been collecting verses for 10 years now...
when the album finally drops, the writer list for Dre's verses is gonna be insane.
good work homie, nice post. Yeah Ive been meaning to check out Krondon for the longest, I was waiting for Xzibit to do a Strong Arm Steady album but it never happened.
Krondon came with some ill shit for this "Kush" track. He may not be what TV is looking for image-wise, so ghostwriting could get him paid.
Bangin first single, I love that Dre is workin with Akon. Perfect lead single. From Chronic to "Kush"!
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DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Prodigy & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady :-*
Source: Itunes (K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
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lol @ Prodigy.... A. Johnson is Slim the Mobster. He wrote Dres part...
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Favorite line from the song: "Still I am/ Tighter than the pants on Will.I.AM"! 8) 8) 8) Props to whoever wrote that line!
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DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Prodigy & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady :-*
Source: Itunes (K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
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lol @ Prodigy.... A. Johnson is Slim the Mobster. He wrote Dres part...
Not that I don't believe you (at all), you got a reference that shows Slim's real name please? I couldn't find one thing online about it.
Thanks!!! :)
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DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Prodigy & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady :-*
Source: Itunes (K. Rahman, A. Young, D. Tannenbaum, A. Ransom, B. Honeycutt, A. Johnson II & M. Jones III)
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lol @ Prodigy.... A. Johnson is Slim the Mobster. He wrote Dres part...
Not that I don't believe you (at all), you got a reference that shows Slim's real name please? I couldn't find one thing online about it.
Thanks!!! :)
Your welcome.....
http://twitter.com/Slimthemobster
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A. Johnson is definitely Slim the Mobster
I'll try & holla' at Blaqthoven to see what his role was
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A. Johnson is definitely Slim the Mobster
I'll try & holla' at Blaqthoven to see what his role was
Thanks to both!! 8)
For now it looks like we got DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Slim The Mobster & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady 8)
Hey Lunatic, if you holla at Blaqthoven ask him bout Krondon being involved yeah? ;)
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Take that many people to write one song in 10 years?? lol
thought the same.
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A. Johnson is definitely Slim the Mobster
I'll try & holla' at Blaqthoven to see what his role was
Thanks to both!! 8)
For now it looks like we got DJ Khalil, Dr. Dre, Danny Keyz, Blaqthoven, Kobe, Slim The Mobster & Krondon of Strong Arm Steady 8)
Hey Lunatic, if you holla at Blaqthoven ask him bout Krondon being involved yeah? ;)
No problem, Slim has an unreleased 2pac verse on his album too thanks to Dr Dre i guess.... Interesting..
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that will.i.am line is atrociously bad
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that will.i.am line is atrociously bad
^ yet the funny thing is that at the same time I'd only expect to hear a line like that come from somebody like Snoop... :laugh:
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that will.i.am line is atrociously bad
^ yet the funny thing is that at the same time I'd only expect to hear a line like that come from somebody like Snoop... :laugh:
the line may sound simple, but it actually has deeper implications. The West Coast is known for representing a very masculine vision of hip-hop. The West put the gangsta rap culture on the map, and usually the dress code was baggy.
Now that the West Coast has fallen off in the mainstream, a softer, prettier, bubblegum version of hip-hop has arisen. And tight jeens are actually a symbol of this shift in hip-hop music.
So actually, this song is Dre coming back, the West comin back, the good old days of the 90's coming back, and that line is perfect for the song.
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Lol, at you making that lame ass line appear deep. It's a wack line.
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Lol, at you making that lame ass line appear deep. It's a wack line.
i find the praise for the line funny myself
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Also written by Phillip Martin. But they wouldn't post that now would they?
haha
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Whoooooooo? ;D
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Also written by Phillip Martin. But they wouldn't post that now would they?
haha
Phillip Martin = Bishop Lamont
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Why wouldn't they give Bishop credit if he wrote on the song? Did they buy him out, or did he leave on bad terms?
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Lol, at you making that lame ass line appear deep. It's a wack line.
its definetly not deep, but not a wack line, it make me smile every time i hear it, good one ;)
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Also written by Phillip Martin. But they wouldn't post that now would they?
haha
i hope he got paid though
Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Why wouldn't they give Bishop credit if he wrote on the song? Did they buy him out, or did he leave on bad terms?
ghostwriting?
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it? Were any writing credits given for that song?
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
So there's a version of Kush with Bishop?
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
So there's a version of Kush with Bishop?
Yes. The track was recorded a couple years ago, I believe.
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A third verse on Kush with Bishop would have been amazing
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
So there's a version of Kush with Bishop?
Yes. The track was recorded a couple years ago, I believe.
strange, i thought Kush had a new beat
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
So there's a version of Kush with Bishop?
Yes. The track was recorded a couple years ago, I believe.
strange, i thought Kush had a new beat
Nope. Khalil did that beat years ago. Dre mixed it and added his touch a few months ago.
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Oh yeah? Not seen a credit for Bishop's involvement. ???
And you won't. Just think "Flasy" ;)
Flashy wasn't officially released was it?
No. But what Dre did to Bishop on the song is the same with Kush.
So there's a version of Kush with Bishop?
Yes. The track was recorded a couple years ago, I believe.
strange, i thought Kush had a new beat
Nope. Khalil did that beat years ago. Dre mixed it and added his touch a few months ago.
thanks for the info ;)
i guess that explains why i thought that Kush didn't sound like a Dre instrumental.
you obviously know the difference between the original beat and the retail version, but it would be interesting for others to know how much different Dre's input sounds on Kush ;D
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^^You can definitely hear Khalil's influence on the track. I bet Dre added harder claps and the piano loop.
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....so Khalil basicaly did the beat, but Dre produced it
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So you heard Kush a couple years ago? ??? ??? ???
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i wana hear bishop's version!
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that's some sick infos rebel....damn i would have loved to have bishop on a detox single. It looked like it was the possible 3 years ago.
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whats so hard about that concept for people to grasp, most if not all great music producers always have a studio full of great musicians to use or control at their musical expense to compose their talents in the way that creates what an Artist like Dr. Dre has in his mind, he doesn't always have to be twisting knobs himself to make what he hears in his head or to have the ideas that are sparked from somebody elses creation to have Dre help make it the best that it can possibly be... that's what PRODUCERS do, they're not always 100% technical either. therefore I don't think Dre needs to physically contribute written music on his tracks for me to appreciate them, i know that the beats he composes are what he wants & feels are the best representation for reel Hip-Hop headz to get in-to! although with that said i also wished Dre wasn't so insecure with music he actually wrote himself solo w/ NO extra help from any other beat-makers & or key-board players, that's some shit I'm sure we'd all like to hear. 8)
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whats so hard about that concept for people to grasp, most if not all great music producers always have a studio full of great musicians to use or control at their musical expense to compose their talents in the way that creates what an Artist like Dr. Dre has in his mind, he doesn't always have to be twisting knobs himself to make what he hears in his head or to have the ideas that are sparked from somebody elses creation to have Dre help make it the best that it can possibly be... that's what PRODUCERS do, they're not always 100% technical either. therefore I don't think Dre needs to physically contribute written music on his tracks for me to appreciate them, i know that the beats he composes are what he wants & feels are the best representation for reel Hip-Hop headz to get in-to! although with that said i also wished Dre wasn't so insecure with music he actually wrote himself solo w/ NO extra help from any other beat-makers & or key-board players, that's some shit I'm sure we'd all like to hear. 8)
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Let me clarify. Bishop's writing for Dre and Snoop was over another beat. Kush wasn't meant for Detox, initially.
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Let me clarify. Bishop's writing for Dre and Snoop was over another beat. Kush wasn't meant for Detox, initially.
Oh wait so they took the beat from one Bishop track and added some ghostwritten Bishop verses from another track on to it?
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Pretty much.
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Well they can't have used Bishops final lyrics - why would he not get a credit? He wouldn't have ghost written for one of Dre's other many writers! :laugh:
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Well they can't have used Bishops final lyrics - why would he not get a credit? He wouldn't have ghost written for one of Dre's other many writers! :laugh:
Who cares? Bishop Lamont's a bitch anyway.
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A lot was rewritten over time, O.G. Bishop's content was actually anti-kush, haha.
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Let me clarify. Bishop's writing for Dre and Snoop was over another beat. Kush wasn't meant for Detox, initially.
What was Kush meant for originally? The Reformation?
I'd have liked to have seen the Bishop track 'Translator' with Dre's mixing and final touch on... that track was hard as fuck, and it'd be even harder with huge Dre claps and big mix
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A lot was rewritten over time, O.G. Bishop's content was actually anti-kush, haha.
So how much did Krondon and Slim Tha Mobster have to do with the final lyrics? Were there any other ghostwriters involved?
besides kobe and blaqthoven writing the hook lol.
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A lot was rewritten over time, O.G. Bishop's content was actually anti-kush, haha.
well if he didn't write anything in the final version then for our sake the credits tell the whole story.
and it makes sense if slim the mobster wrote dre's verse on here (cause it sucks).
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Lol so if the verses were changed and a different beat was used, what does this have to do with Bishop aside from the song name? That's why his name isn't on the credits
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^^You can definitely hear Khalil's influence on the track. I bet Dre added harder claps and the piano loop.
yeah i think so too.
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what the fuck is up wit snoop not writing his fuckin' lyrics on this one. he coulda wrote a better verse than that (wit the d.o.c.'s help of course) LMFAO. one of y'all should do a post make a list of songs that both eazy and snoop didn't write. eazy ethered that frail joker on 187um killa.
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A lot was rewritten over time, O.G. Bishop's content was actually anti-kush, haha.
and it makes sense if slim the mobster wrote dre's verse on here (cause it sucks).
Yea, Bishops stuff is light years ahead of Slims.
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whats so hard about that concept for people to grasp, most if not all great music producers always have a studio full of great musicians to use or control at their musical expense to compose their talents in the way that creates what an Artist like Dr. Dre has in his mind, he doesn't always have to be twisting knobs himself to make what he hears in his head or to have the ideas that are sparked from somebody elses creation to have Dre help make it the best that it can possibly be... that's what PRODUCERS do, they're not always 100% technical either. therefore I don't think Dre needs to physically contribute written music on his tracks for me to appreciate them, i know that the beats he composes are what he wants & feels are the best representation for reel Hip-Hop headz to get in-to! although with that said i also wished Dre wasn't so insecure with music he actually wrote himself solo w/ NO extra help from any other beat-makers & or key-board players, that's some shit I'm sure we'd all like to hear. 8)
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wow, limited or denied Intelligence, Influence & Inspiration i see... :-X
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whats so hard about that concept for people to grasp, most if not all great music producers always have a studio full of great musicians to use or control at their musical expense to compose their talents in the way that creates what an Artist like Dr. Dre has in his mind, he doesn't always have to be twisting knobs himself to make what he hears in his head or to have the ideas that are sparked from somebody elses creation to have Dre help make it the best that it can possibly be... that's what PRODUCERS do, they're not always 100% technical either. therefore I don't think Dre needs to physically contribute written music on his tracks for me to appreciate them, i know that the beats he composes are what he wants & feels are the best representation for reel Hip-Hop headz to get in-to! although with that said i also wished Dre wasn't so insecure with music he actually wrote himself solo w/ NO extra help from any other beat-makers & or key-board players, that's some shit I'm sure we'd all like to hear. 8)
:camp: :camp:
so much groupieness in this thread...its fucking disgusting.
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Ya'll think he is done with the artwork and cd booklets yet ?
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Ya'll think he is done with the artwork and cd booklets yet ?
I doubt it, because I think Dre said that he needs 2 or 3 more songs until the record is complete. I wonder what the front cover will look like though. It has to have some reference to weed surely?
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all of those may be true, but remember he uses ghost writers too that may never get credit.
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Lol so if the verses were changed and a different beat was used, what does this have to do with Bishop aside from the song name? That's why his name isn't on the credits
Lol for real. First off Rebel says this was originally a bishop song, then we find out its a completely different beat, and completely different verses. So Bishop really added nothing to the song? It's not like Kush is an extremely original name for a song either. Theres no reason Bishop should get credit on this track, I appreciate all the insight Rebel but sometimes it really seems like you're reaching with these Bishop/Detox connections.
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Is Rebel Bishop? :D
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lets just keep it poppin. and the will-i-am line is Funny. so its cool