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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: rayman on December 18, 2010, 03:58:05 AM
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
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It's getting to the point I'm starting to doubt detox will change the way people think about detox.
Same shit happened to the latest rakim album. People were comparing it to the fictional album they wanted it to be not the album it was.
Those 2 albums will go into hip-hop history as the two most slept on albums.
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I think an album by Gary Coleman would be more dope than detox........and also since detox means when you stop taking drugs to "detoxify" your body
why is the first single "kush" about drugs?
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
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its funny how before any single appeared people were like "oh detox is a myth" "detox is coming nevuary" and shit like that now that the single is out and were gonna get detox in 2011 everyone one is like "kush is mediocre" "why is it kush if its detox" man u idiots are like broken records u just keep hating and looking for negative stuff all the time till u dont hear the whole record just shut up and also if u dont understand the Detox concept just dont post making a fool outta urself.
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Dre produced the record, not the beat.
Dr Dre is first and foremost a music-producer, not a beatmaker..
when will ppl learn that?
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
Who said anything about the 90's nigga?
bottom line is the beat was fucking average, didnt matter who produced it. I Need A Doctor was fucking wack and corny and Alex Da Kid is wack. Dre a creative producer? all he does is put a shitty piano loop over some loud ass drums. yea real fucking creative. Its like everyone forgot that Dre was hyping this up to be the most advanced hip hop album ever, and all we get is a throw away piano beat and some lame alex da kid production. why you mad son?
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its funny how before any single appeared people were like "oh detox is a myth" "detox is coming nevuary" and shit like that now that the single is out and were gonna get detox in 2011 everyone one is like "kush is mediocre" "why is it kush if its detox" man u idiots are like broken records u just keep hating and looking for negative stuff all the time till u dont hear the whole record just shut up and also if u dont understand the Detox concept just dont post making a fool outta urself.
well what do you want us to do? praise an average beat just because he finally decided to release one?
GTFOH with this shit.
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Dre didn't produce Kush, Khalil did. Dre mixed it. I Need a Doctor wasn't produced by Dre either and it is even a finished track. I need to hear a whole album of Dre produced songs before proclaiming he fell off.
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
Who said anything about the 90's nigga?
bottom line is the beat was fucking average, didnt matter who produced it. I Need A Doctor was fucking wack and corny and Alex Da Kid is wack. Dre a creative producer? all he does is put a shitty piano loop over some loud ass drums. yea real fucking creative. Its like everyone forgot that Dre was hyping this up to be the most advanced hip hop album ever, and all we get is a throw away piano beat and some lame alex da kid production. why you mad son?
First of all learn to read. I know i used some big words there, but still. I didn't say dre was creative. He is, however, no less creative than any other mainstream producer out there. They make music for mainstream radio, so they're not allowed to be creative even if they wanted to. So now you're not sure who produced? It doesn't matter? At first you were sure Dre didn't produce it. Caught bullshitting?
And like i said, Alex da Kid is better than anybody making music in the west right now.
Hyping your album is called promotion. Everybody does it.
I'm not mad. Like i said i'm not even a Dre fan. The only one getting emotional here is you. You're embarrassing yourself here.
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
Who said anything about the 90's nigga?
bottom line is the beat was fucking average, didnt matter who produced it. I Need A Doctor was fucking wack and corny and Alex Da Kid is wack. Dre a creative producer? all he does is put a shitty piano loop over some loud ass drums. yea real fucking creative. Its like everyone forgot that Dre was hyping this up to be the most advanced hip hop album ever, and all we get is a throw away piano beat and some lame alex da kid production. why you mad son?
First of all learn to read. I know i used some big words there, but still. I didn't say dre was creative. He is, however, no less creative than any other mainstream producer out there. They make music for mainstream radio, so they're not allowed to be creative even if they wanted to. So now you're not sure who produced? It doesn't matter? At first you were sure Dre didn't produce it. Caught bullshitting?
And like i said, Alex da Kid is better than anybody making music in the west right now.
Hyping your album is called promotion. Everybody does it.
I'm not mad. Like i said i'm not even a Dre fan. The only one getting emotional here is you. You're embarrassing yourself here.
O RLY?
"I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre"
Alex Da Kid is fucking wack. and why has it gotta be a westcoast producer? he could have could anyone from the east, midwest, someone like ski beatz. but nah this dude goes with a nobody that makes shit beats.
we been waitin for detox for 5 years and he aint even producing his own tracks.
Dre is no longer even a top 5 producer anymore.
sit down kid.
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
Who said anything about the 90's nigga?
bottom line is the beat was fucking average, didnt matter who produced it. I Need A Doctor was fucking wack and corny and Alex Da Kid is wack. Dre a creative producer? all he does is put a shitty piano loop over some loud ass drums. yea real fucking creative. Its like everyone forgot that Dre was hyping this up to be the most advanced hip hop album ever, and all we get is a throw away piano beat and some lame alex da kid production. why you mad son?
First of all learn to read. I know i used some big words there, but still. I didn't say dre was creative. He is, however, no less creative than any other mainstream producer out there. They make music for mainstream radio, so they're not allowed to be creative even if they wanted to. So now you're not sure who produced? It doesn't matter? At first you were sure Dre didn't produce it. Caught bullshitting?
And like i said, Alex da Kid is better than anybody making music in the west right now.
Hyping your album is called promotion. Everybody does it.
I'm not mad. Like i said i'm not even a Dre fan. The only one getting emotional here is you. You're embarrassing yourself here.
O RLY?
"I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre"
Alex Da Kid is fucking wack. and why has it gotta be a westcoast producer? he could have could anyone from the east, midwest, someone like ski beatz. but nah this dude goes with a nobody that makes shit beats.
we been waitin for detox for 5 years and he aint even producing his own tracks.
Dre is no longer even a top 5 producer anymore.
sit down kid.
You're getting overly emotional and are not making any sense. This is a westcoast forum so i only care about Alex Da Kid in relation to the westcoast. I don't give a shit about east, midwest, south. Again, i'm not defending Dre. Imo He's no better or worse than any other mainstream producer. As far as "he ain't even producing his own tracks", were you there in the studio?
And ending with "sit down kid" does not make your argument stronger or mine any weaker.
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I'm looking forward to it, and it will probably knock, fuck what you think.
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Everyone has such high expectations for detox, its never going to match them.
If you took dre's name of kush and had it as another artist, everyone would be saying how dope it is. But because its dre it needs to be incredible for it not to be classed as wack.
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Kush isn't as good as we all hoped the first single would be. It had (has) a lot of replay value though. I Need A Doctor is one of the worst tracks I heard this year. Keri Hilson is hit or miss, so I can't judge on that yet.
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
good post, but Kush is produced by DJ Khalil
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I think an album by Gary Coleman would be more dope than detox........and also since detox means when you stop taking drugs to "detoxify" your body
why is the first single "kush" about drugs?
Wow Gary Coleman is doing post mortem albums? Sweet!
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I think an album by Gary Coleman would be more dope than detox........and also since detox means when you stop taking drugs to "detoxify" your body
why is the first single "kush" about drugs?
because its not the first single
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This forum needs to start thinking about other things.
Pathetic.
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my god.
:-X
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I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre.
Madlib? Blue Sky Black Death? Exile? Dan the Automater? DJ Shadow? Evidence? Lmao....
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I wonder how people got so hurt about Detox, there is so much hate in people like autor of this thread - whats the thing? You make a shit arguments, not even lookin at the good things they say.. Keri Hilson being on Detox is questionable, and pretty much doubtfull (that was your argument), you didnt mention, that Dre said in Power 106 interview that he will have many people he worked with on Detox.. that Detox wont be like "Kush" - it'll be diffrent.. you aint got no arguments, its just pathetic hate.. kinda sad
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I'm looking forward to it, and it will probably knock, fuck what you think.
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its funny how before any single appeared people were like "oh detox is a myth" "detox is coming nevuary" and shit like that now that the single is out and were gonna get detox in 2011 everyone one is like "kush is mediocre" "why is it kush if its detox" man u idiots are like broken records u just keep hating and looking for negative stuff all the time till u dont hear the whole record just shut up and also if u dont understand the Detox concept just dont post making a fool outta urself.
You really need to earn your stripes before you start talking trash about who the haters are when you just registered here a few months ago. People think they can just come in here and start dissing everybody when they just registered. ::) It's rude as hell.
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I think people need to realize that no matter if Detox is great or not, it will never be better than Chronic or 2001. Times have changed and music has as well. That Old School west coast sound that both earlier records had will never be duplicated. Does that mean Detox cant be a classic? No! It can definitely be a west coast classic but in a different way and sound. Anyone that is expecting the same shit as in the past or comparing this album with the past is going to be disappointed. Get over the past and accept that the era we grew up in is OVER. Dr. Dre still produces amazing songs, so im excited to hear what new shit he will come with this time around.
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I think people need to realize that no matter if Detox is great or not, it will never be better than Chronic or 2001. Times have changed and music has as well. That Old School west coast sound that both earlier records had will never be duplicated. Does that mean Detox cant be a classic? No! It can definitely be a west coast classic but in a different way and sound. Anyone that is expecting the same shit as in the past or comparing this album with the past is going to be disappointed. Get over the past and accept that the era we grew up in is OVER. Dr. Dre still produces amazing songs, so im excited to hear what new shit he will come with this time around.
Preach! 8)
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I think people need to realize that no matter if Detox is great or not, it will never be better than Chronic or 2001. Times have changed and music has as well. That Old School west coast sound that both earlier records had will never be duplicated. Does that mean Detox cant be a classic? No! It can definitely be a west coast classic but in a different way and sound. Anyone that is expecting the same shit as in the past or comparing this album with the past is going to be disappointed. Get over the past and accept that the era we grew up in is OVER. Dr. Dre still produces amazing songs, so im excited to hear what new shit he will come with this time around.
Preach! 8)
double PREACH! 8)
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You really need to earn your stripes before you start talking trash about who the haters are when you just registered here a few months ago. People think they can just come in here and start dissing everybody when they just registered. ::) It's rude as hell.
LMAO! Message board stripes? Good one, Myth.
This thread has me thinking though. 2011 might be the death of this board. Think about it. If Detox drops and Crooked I finally releases a solo album, what will this fucking board have left to bitch about?
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I think people need to realize that no matter if Detox is great or not, it will never be better than Chronic or 2001. Times have changed and music has as well. That Old School west coast sound that both earlier records had will never be duplicated. Does that mean Detox cant be a classic? No! It can definitely be a west coast classic but in a different way and sound. Anyone that is expecting the same shit as in the past or comparing this album with the past is going to be disappointed. Get over the past and accept that the era we grew up in is OVER. Dr. Dre still produces amazing songs, so im excited to hear what new shit he will come with this time around.
I think people just need to hear the record and get it out of their system. People are expecting the impossible. 95% of you aren't even judging the music on those albums as much as you're judging the nostalgia attached to them. Nothing can compete with that. You're not gonna get the same feeling in your late 20's or early 30's with a cynical mindstate as you did when you were a care-free 11-year old or teenager. If you threw "G Thang" out on this board today with no one having ever heard it and said it was going to be the most awesome record you'd ever hear, people would dismiss as simple rhymes over a Leon Hayward sample.
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I think people need to realize that no matter if Detox is great or not, it will never be better than Chronic or 2001. Times have changed and music has as well. That Old School west coast sound that both earlier records had will never be duplicated. Does that mean Detox cant be a classic? No! It can definitely be a west coast classic but in a different way and sound. Anyone that is expecting the same shit as in the past or comparing this album with the past is going to be disappointed. Get over the past and accept that the era we grew up in is OVER. Dr. Dre still produces amazing songs, so im excited to hear what new shit he will come with this time around.
I think people just need to hear the record and get it out of their system. People are expecting the impossible. 95% of you aren't even judging the music on those albums as much as you're judging the nostalgia attached to them. Nothing can compete with that. You're not gonna get the same feeling in your late 20's or early 30's with a cynical mindstate as you did when you were a care-free 11-year old or teenager. If you threw "G Thang" out on this board today with no one having ever heard it and said it was going to be the most awesome record you'd ever hear, people would dismiss as simple rhymes over a Leon Hayward sample.
good talk
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Detox might suck. 2 things I'm afraid of might happen.
1. Dre doesn't have the inspiration to produce/co-produce all the tracks on Detox. He will ask other producers who are now just as good or even better than himself to produce for him. More than 1 track not produced by Dre would suck to me. He should only drop Detox if he has the inspiration to produce/co-produce all the tracks. Don't think I will buy Detox if he only produces 4 tracks on it.
2. Dre sells-out and has a song(s) with a corny popstar on Detox. Dre, or Jimmy Iovine might think that Detox can only go multi platinum if there's a song with a corny popstar on Detox. 1 corny popstar on Detox and it over with my respect for Dre. I won't buy Detox.
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95% of you aren't even judging the music on those albums as much as you're judging the nostalgia attached to them. Nothing can compete with that. You're not gonna get the same feeling in your late 20's or early 30's with a cynical mindstate as you did when you were a care-free 11-year old or teenager.
This.
Its kinda funny to see people complaining about the lyrics or subject matter on the recent Dre songs (did we listen to the same albums?). Same goes for people saying he's trying to go pop. Dre has always been pop. The only reason we are Dre fans today is because throughout his career he's focused on making music that bumps and will get airplay.
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There has been more knowledge dropped on this page of this thread (barring westcoast fanatic) than I have seen throughout all the bullshit thats been written in the countless other topics on the subject.
So yeh..well done.
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If you threw "G Thang" out on this board today with no one having ever heard it and said it was going to be the most awesome record you'd ever hear, people would dismiss as simple rhymes over a Leon Hayward sample.
I don't agree with this, because I'm hyped that we seem to be getting Haven't You Heard in CDQ with a proper release. In fact, suppose they dropped Haven't You Heard properly with CDQ sonics and Detox on the same day. I would definitely buy Haven't You Heard because I know I won't be disappointed, but I would preview Detox first, because I'm not as certain as with Haven't You Heard that I won't be disappointed.
I respect the point that you're making, which is that the "old" west coast music only holds up today because of nostalgia, and it really isn't all that great -- certainly not great enough to compete in today's era of music. I'm sure a lot of young people today feel that way. What you are saying is true, commercially speaking. But when it comes to pure musical enjoyment, I'd be willing to bet that I will enjoy Haven't You Heard more than Detox, because I enjoy that style more. The bottom line to me is that Kush is Dr. Dre's worst single so far, even including The Aftermath compilation.
I mean, rank these songs for me:
F*ck With Dre Day
Let Me Ride
G Thang
Lil' Ghetto Boy
Been There Done That
Eastcoast Killas/Westcoast Killas
Still Dre
Forgot About Dre
Next Episode
I don't think Kush is better than any of those. So to say G Thang wouldn't hold up today is a little bit off-base to me, because Haven't You Heard is basically from that same era, and I'm more hyped for that than for Detox at this point.
But, again, I respect your opinion, even though I don't agree with it.
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I think the album will be great.. beaing a producer isnt only about making a beat . there is more to it as for the sound Dr.Dre tried to get away from the gangster rap image since he left Death Row.. he wanted to show that his sound was universal, that it was more than a West Coast thing, and i did prove it well.. the sound of Chronic 2001 is still being used today in rap, pop, R&B and even random commercials... The Doctor is doing a great job. but the fans are some of the weirdest and stuck up fans ever (the westcoast fans)
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Yes Detox will suck a** if you listen to and like 97% of the shit that is considered hot today. Dr. Dre will re-invent the sound once again and most of you won't realize it until 2015 when your favorite shitty half ass producer is imitating the sound and attempting to recreate it on a $39.99 music creation program you can get at Walmart. You can't predict what an album will be or sound like when you haven't even heard more than one song from the album so why even try? I am amused at the ignorance of some west coast hip hop fans. Let me take you down history lane.....when Dre dropped the Aftermath presents compilation most of you were still crapping in diapers and the album was slammed for not being like Dre's Death Row sound....Dre fell off was the word in the industry and on the message forums. Then we got to hear a youngster by the name of Eminem blow up thanks to Dre and then of course Chronic 2001 came and changed the game. Thats what Dre does when he drops albums and if you haven't learned that yet you need to accept it. It is sad that many of you have been "programmed" to accept and love shitty music and ignorantly blast hip hop music actually made by musicians. Kush is so sonically advanced from anything we have heard in a long time it isn't even funny. Khalil produced it but you can hear Dre's influence on the drums and keys and mixing. Dre will produce 95% of the album and his features will all be the shit so sit back and relax and keep bumping your favorite wack ass west coast rappers until the game is changed by one person once again.
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Complaining.... people saying he's trying to go pop. Dre has always been pop. The only reason we are Dre fans today is because throughout his career he's focused on making music that bumps and will get airplay.
I don't know what's up with you and Dre is pop non-sense. Dre doesn't go pop, he becomes "pop" through the masses because of his quality control. You look at some "underground" or whatever you wanna call it artists and the one track on the album produced by Dr. Dre is the best.
This does not mean he intentionally produces pop music. Pop is just a term "popular" that was made up for bestselling artists when recording began (The Beatles). Nothing on 2001 is str8 up "pop" to me. Your misusing the term to make it sound like Dres corny. Gwen Stefani and Eve? Now that's pop but that was the objective.
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hahaha are you serious with this shit?
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Complaining.... people saying he's trying to go pop. Dre has always been pop. The only reason we are Dre fans today is because throughout his career he's focused on making music that bumps and will get airplay.
I don't know what's up with you and Dre is pop non-sense. Dre doesn't go pop, he becomes "pop" through the masses because of his quality control. You look at some "underground" or whatever you wanna call it artists and the one track on the album produced by Dr. Dre is the best.
This does not mean he intentionally produces pop music. Pop is just a term "popular" that was made up for bestselling artists when recording began (The Beatles). Nothing on 2001 is str8 up "pop" to me. I'll give you Forgot About Dre as an exception but that's it. Your misusing the term to make it sound like Dres corny. Gwen Stefani and Eve? Now that's pop but that was the objective.
I didn't say pop is corny. If you perceive it that way it says more about you than it doesn't about me. But you can't deny that Dre is pop (in a hip hop context). That's the type of music he's made throughout his career. I would say he's one of the main people responsible for commercializing hip hop.
People forget that gangster rap WAS pop in the 90s. A lot of us are here because its the music we grew up with blasting out our radios. You see 90s fans complaining about the commercialization of hip hop with autotune hooks and love songs....well the underground scene in the 90s was making the exact same complaints about gangster rap and G Funk. Because that's what was considered pop back then. And Dre was at the head that movement. Pop isn't one type of music only, its the kind of music that is appealing to the mainstream, and mainstream tastes change over time. Drake, Black Eyed Peas, Eminem etc. wouldn't have been considered pop in the 90s.
Just out of curiosity, what would make Forgot About Dre any more pop than the rest of the album?
You look at some "underground" or whatever you wanna call it artists and the one track on the album produced by Dr. Dre is the best.
To quote O.D.B. "nigga please." Stan indeed.
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hahaha are you serious with this shit?
really is that all your comin' w/ :laugh:
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nuff said. ;D
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europe :grumpy:
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and basically youre saying that you find dr dre more attractive than dubcc's milf orit, pretty gay
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and basically youre saying that you find dr dre more attractive than dubcc's milf orit, pretty gay
lmao
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I don't agree with this, because I'm hyped that we seem to be getting Haven't You Heard in CDQ with a proper release. In fact, suppose they dropped Haven't You Heard properly with CDQ sonics and Detox on the same day. I would definitely buy Haven't You Heard because I know I won't be disappointed, but I would preview Detox first, because I'm not as certain as with Haven't You Heard that I won't be disappointed.
I respect the point that you're making, which is that the "old" west coast music only holds up today because of nostalgia, and it really isn't all that great -- certainly not great enough to compete in today's era of music. I'm sure a lot of young people today feel that way. What you are saying is true, commercially speaking. But when it comes to pure musical enjoyment, I'd be willing to bet that I will enjoy Haven't You Heard more than Detox, because I enjoy that style more. The bottom line to me is that Kush is Dr. Dre's worst single so far, even including The Aftermath compilation.
I'm not saying that old West Coast music is only good because of nostalgia. I'm saying nostalgia is creating an unreleastic expectation about Detox. There is a group that are expecting it to be a nostalgia record. They want something that will remind them of what the 90's was like and anything that isn't that will make them angry. Your "Haven't You Heard" comparison works for a great example. That is a nostalgia record. It's old recordings put together to appeal to the demographic that loves that music. Detox is new material trying to compete in the current musical landscape. As were the other two Dre albums during their times. People are convinced of what a Dr. Dre album should be. "Jay-Z can't be on Detox. He wasn't on the last two. It should be only West Coast and that's it." Everyone has their own opinion of what a Dr. Dre album should be. That's why I say it just needs to come out. People have to have that enitial grieving period where they over-anaylze it and rip it apart because no matter how good the album is, it's not going to be the magic time machine that brings G-Funk back to the pop charts. So many people's heads are so far removed from reality that they need time to get over it. It's not the fountain of youth. It's a fucking rap album.
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and basically youre saying that you find dr dre more attractive than dubcc's milf orit, pretty gay
i guess, if that helps your crude fantasy... i suppose, sure. :monkey:
but really what's the point of getting into it w/ you. it's not fair to you cuz, due to your remedial debilitation, I might get accused of abusing the mentally handicapped... :-X
what an absolute, fucking-despicable waste of time & forum-sever space for actual discourses among REAL, useful contributors ... ^ :sign_banhim: DUBCC
srsly, what the fuck is the point of allowing perma-troll(s) to dwell on your board, dubcc mods/admin... ??? really not a good look. :-\
europe :grumpy:
also I'm American btw... :-\ dim-wit. :laugh:
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yes it is not a good look to have someone constantly acting like saying you are from europe is an insult......then it is not a good look
to have a weird woman in a green dress posted everywhere.....
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and basically youre saying that you find dr dre more attractive than dubcc's milf orit, pretty gay
i guess, if that helps your crude fantasy... i suppose, sure. :monkey:
but really what's the point of getting into it w/ you. it's not fair to you cuz, due to your remedial debilitation, I might get accused of abusing the mentally handicapped... :-X
what an absolute, fucking-despicable waste of time & forum-sever space for actual discourses among REAL, useful contributors ... ^ :sign_banhim: DUBCC
srsly, what the fuck is the point of allowing perma-troll(s) to dwell on your board, dubcc mods/admin... ??? really not a good look. :-\
europe :grumpy:
also I'm American btw... :-\ dim-wit. :laugh:
hahaha your intellectual fortitude has masticated the reticulum of your innermost desires through the forum in which.....cut the crap euro, youre a faggot and a flaming one at that
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yes it is not a good look to have someone constantly acting like saying you are from europe is an insult......then it is not a good look
to have a weird woman in a green dress posted everywhere.....
yeah and telling everyone that you shoot heroin and cocaine is cool....euro
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You really need to earn your stripes before you start talking trash about who the haters are when you just registered here a few months ago. People think they can just come in here and start dissing everybody when they just registered. ::) It's rude as hell.
LMAO! Message board stripes? Good one, Myth.
This thread has me thinking though. 2011 might be the death of this board. Think about it. If Detox drops and Crooked I finally releases a solo album, what will this fucking board have left to bitch about?
tabernacle.
they better hope dre goes on tour or something...thsi album is the wc last stab at being a factor in the game.
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they can bitch about how their beer and chocolate is better than the next euros
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yes it is not a good look to have someone constantly acting like saying you are from europe is an insult......then it is not a good look
to have a weird woman in a green dress posted everywhere.....
Muhfucka's experience with euro's is limited to this message board, taking that into consideration I have to say that -as a european- I understand.
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Some of you Dre stans are really a bunch of miserable fucks, you know that? Y'all finally get what you've been waiting 10+ years for and you're still not happy. There is pretty much only one thing y'all agree with and that this:
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But you can't deny that Dre is pop (in a hip hop context). That's the type of music he's made throughout his career. I would say he's one of the main people responsible for commercializing hip hop.
Hip hop context fine. Type of music made through career... absolutely not. I highly doubt he goes into the studio saying "I'm gonna focus on making a pop track today." That's not how it works...
People forget that gangster rap WAS pop in the 90s....Because that's what was considered pop back then. And Dre was at the head that movement.
No it wasn't... New Kids, Backstreet, and Weird Al were pop, not Dr. Dre. Sorry, that's incorrect. They broke barriers by getting hip-hop onto the charts. You can look it up.
Pop isn't one type of music only, its the kind of music that is appealing to the mainstream, and mainstream tastes change over time. Drake, Black Eyed Peas, Eminem etc. wouldn't have been considered pop in the 90s.
I already said that on the Beatles. They defined the "pop" thing. Today they would be rock or because of popularity, rock-pop.
Just out of curiosity, what would make Forgot About Dre any more pop than the rest of the album?
Eminem. Yea he is rap but he is so popular he transcends it. Think about the context of the song... can any other artist pull that off as a single?
You look at some "underground" or whatever you wanna call it artists and the one track on the album produced by Dr. Dre is the best.
To quote O.D.B. "nigga please." Stan indeed.
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Fair enough... but your just as much as a Stan as me. Look at how many posts you have... there is a little Stan in all of us ;)
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But you can't deny that Dre is pop (in a hip hop context). That's the type of music he's made throughout his career. I would say he's one of the main people responsible for commercializing hip hop.
Hip hop context fine. Type of music made through career... absolutely not. I highly doubt he goes into the studio saying "I'm gonna focus on making a pop track today." That's not how it works...
He certainly focuses on making "hits"
People forget that gangster rap WAS pop in the 90s....Because that's what was considered pop back then. And Dre was at the head that movement.
No it wasn't... New Kids, Backstreet, and Weird Al were pop, not Dr. Dre. Sorry, that's incorrect. They broke barriers by getting hip-hop onto the charts. You can look it up.
Oh it definitely was. Nuthin But A G Thang is like the epitome of pop rap.
Just out of curiosity, what would make Forgot About Dre any more pop than the rest of the album?
Eminem. Yea he is rap but he is so popular he transcends it. Think about the context of the song... can any other artist pull that off as a single?
Sure, Eminem may transcend rap now. But remember this was Eminem one album deep. He wasn't as big then as he is now. Snoop was more of a pop star at that point. And besides, a song is not pop just because of who's on it. Eminem being featured on a song is not necessarily going to make it a pop song. He could be on some grimy underground song spitting a raw flow and that wouldn't make the song pop.
Not sure what you mean by context. Its a "Dre is back, don't forget it" single. I don't see it as any harder to pull off than Snoop doing the hook on Still Dre.
The Next Episode is way more pop than Forgot About Dre. Dre + Snoop rapping about partying not to mention the go-to hook guy Nate Dogg.
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Dre entered the mainstream with NWA, end of story.
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But you can't deny that Dre is pop (in a hip hop context). That's the type of music he's made throughout his career. I would say he's one of the main people responsible for commercializing hip hop.
Hip hop context fine. Type of music made through career... absolutely not. I highly doubt he goes into the studio saying "I'm gonna focus on making a pop track today." That's not how it works...
People forget that gangster rap WAS pop in the 90s....Because that's what was considered pop back then. And Dre was at the head that movement.
No it wasn't... New Kids, Backstreet, and Weird Al were pop, not Dr. Dre. Sorry, that's incorrect. They broke barriers by getting hip-hop onto the charts. You can look it up.
Pop isn't one type of music only, its the kind of music that is appealing to the mainstream, and mainstream tastes change over time. Drake, Black Eyed Peas, Eminem etc. wouldn't have been considered pop in the 90s.
I already said that on the Beatles. They defined the "pop" thing. Today they would be rock or because of popularity, rock-pop.
Just out of curiosity, what would make Forgot About Dre any more pop than the rest of the album?
Eminem. Yea he is rap but he is so popular he transcends it. Think about the context of the song... can any other artist pull that off as a single?
You look at some "underground" or whatever you wanna call it artists and the one track on the album produced by Dr. Dre is the best.
To quote O.D.B. "nigga please." Stan indeed.
Fair enough... but your just as much as a Stan as me. Look at how many posts you have... there is a little Stan in all of us ;)
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off topic. You're wrong. The Beatles are rock today and they were back then in late 60s. You probably haven't heard their albums. At the beginning of their career they were pop as fuck - no doubt. It wasn't due to the popularity. They were pop because they were recording easy-listening songs and they had great marketing behind them. But since mid/late 60s they were revolutionizing the rock music. They were ahead of their times with their experimental sound. And this experimental sound revolutionized rock music. I am a big fan of their late albums. It's amazing... i can still hear their influence in recent rock songs...
btw. did you know The Beatles was the first band that used sampling in their records. Yes...the same sampling method that was later used in hip hop music...
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very masculine..
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hahaha your intellectual fortitude has masticated the reticulum of your innermost desires through the forum in which.....cut the crap euro, youre a faggot and a flaming one at that
who's euro?? & whats w/ obsessing over nationality/sexuality? why so prejudice... ??? i thought this was a west-coast hip-hop forum... :-\ isn't this the subject matter that shall be discussed here?
I'm comfortable enough to be publicly secure w/ my sexuality, so please keep the inadequate insults coming, too bad you can't muster the same level of distinguished sophistication as i have in my life...
'Muhfukka' what an insecure, lost, lonely child you are, :-X seriously keep trying harder troll, wasting your time on this forum calling everyone/anyone a homo cuz your mother didn't love you or hug you enough as a child so that now, you have to resort to acting-out like a complete senseless moron, yelping, drawing all this unabated attention to yourself because your not intelligent nor constructive enough to find something more productive to do that just might have a meaningful, practical/useful impact on someone or something, somewhere else... ::) what a truly SAD display of wasted human potential. :'(
now I'm done w/ this crap, schooling you little kids, lecturing & all THIS.
this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior. ;D
Thank You.
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not reading your screenplay, just wanted to tell you that your a fag.
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not reading your screenplay, just wanted to tell you that your a fag.
thanks! takes one to know one. :-X
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this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior.
you lose.
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this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior.
you lose.
oh shit I've been utterly defeated now. :-\
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now I'm done w/ this crap, schooling you little kids, lecturing & all THIS.
this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior. ;D
Thank You.
fail
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this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior.
you lose.
oh shit I've been utterly defeated now. :-\
you know that your obsessive nature compels you to come back to this thread time and time again to defend your fantasy boy friend.
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NWA is and was not pop. Something that was banned and got onto the radio doesn't automatically makie it pop. I think we all may have different definitions of "pop" here so that is why it is getting confusing...
Recorded music was popularized in the late 60s cuz of the LP. Albums overtook singles and yes rock-bands had majority of the sales in the late 60s (Hendrix, Zepplin, Beatles, etc.) This is why I say they blend into "pop" music because that was when teens could afford the albums... This is where the term started... Top 40, FM, etc... beatles, zepplin etc...
I think now label heads have found a "gimmick" or "sound' in which the masses will listen to. Something simple, hooky, etc.
Pop was never a genre until recently.
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I'm comfortable enough to be publicly secure w/ my sexuality, so please keep the inadequate insults coming, too bad you can't muster the same level of distinguished sophistication as i have in my life...
hahahahahaha oh man thats a quote and a half right there. you found the gayest photo of dre you could and put your screen name on it for a fucking european gangster rap message board hahaha thats some distinguished sophistication all right haha
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here nooc you should use this for your next picture its right up your alley (no shlomo)
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They were pop because they were recording easy-listening songs
Exactly what I mean when I say pop. Pop = easy listening, mainstream-oriented. That's why when an indie band makes an album with more mainstream appeal you see critics and other people described it as pop. And when a so-called pop star goes another direction its described as an experimental sound or underground. It just so happens that Dr. Dre has been making "easy-listening" music his whole career. That's what I mean when I say his music is pop. Whether its of better quality than a producer with a more underground sound is entirely subjective.
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whats w/ obsessing over nationality/sexuality? why so prejudice... ??? i thought this was a west-coast hip-hop forum...
;D
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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95% of you aren't even judging the music on those albums as much as you're judging the nostalgia attached to them. Nothing can compete with that. You're not gonna get the same feeling in your late 20's or early 30's with a cynical mindstate as you did when you were a care-free 11-year old or teenager.
This.
Its kinda funny to see people complaining about the lyrics or subject matter on the recent Dre songs (did we listen to the same albums?). Same goes for people saying he's trying to go pop. Dre has always been pop. The only reason we are Dre fans today is because throughout his career he's focused on making music that bumps and will get airplay.
If you think Dre has always been Pop, than you dont know what pop is homie. Pop is Michael Jackson, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, shit that you mostly hear today on radio. Pop music is like Dance music where you go to club and boogie. Does Dre make POPular music? Yes but to say he is literally Pop, is wrong. Dre is Hip Hop. Most of his old school shit is straight HIp Hop! Like NWA era and Chronic's. The shit with Dre is that unlike many producers, he has the ability to make records that TOP the fucken charts, even if they dont sound POPPY. In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now. Dre is well respected by Hip Hop heads and will continue to be respected because he is an Innovator. As a matter of fact, Considering how famous Dr. Dre is and how he is always compared to Quincy Jones, im surprised he literally has not gone POP. The guy is still original and does some amazing shit. Some of the Beats that he did for Busta were straight fire. Nothing Poppy, like Dont get Carried away ft NAs, Get you Some, Cocaina, Legends of the fall offs? Those beats were fucken sick. Dre also makes beat that fit a concept. He can make beats that may fit perfectly with a story. Dr Dre is just a monster and like i said before, even if he does not top the last 2 albums, im sure he wont bring out anything less than great.
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And no way has Dre only ever done 'Easy listening' tracks. What planet are you on? :) some of his best tracks are hard as fuck. As a rule tracks with thugish lyrics don't have mainstream appeal. It's not only about beats.
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And no way has Dre only ever done 'Easy listening' tracks. What planet are you on? :) some of his best tracks are hard as fuck. As a rule tracks with thugish lyrics don't have mainstream appeal. It's not only about beats.
Its a fact Dre makes easy listening songs. And you must be joking to say thuggish lyrics don't have mainstream appeal when the 90s thrived off that type of music. Music that didn't have that hard appeal was seen as too soft and not having mainstream appeal. It was all about acting hard and exaggerating street cred because that's what sold records. Where do you think the whole idea of studio gangsters came from? Let me guess, you're from Europe....
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In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now.
Do you expect mainstream records from the 90s to sound like mainstream records in 2010? Mainstream tastes change all the time.
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In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now.
Do you expect mainstream records from the 90s to sound like mainstream records in 2010? Mainstream tastes change all the time.
Sure why not?? If you are talking about POP music of course. Now if your talking about Hip hop, than obviously it has changed from the past. My comment was regarding Dre always being Pop. That's false.
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hahaha your intellectual fortitude has masticated the reticulum of your innermost desires through the forum in which.....cut the crap euro, youre a faggot and a flaming one at that
who's euro?? & whats w/ obsessing over nationality/sexuality? why so prejudice... ??? i thought this was a west-coast hip-hop forum... :-\ isn't this the subject matter that shall be discussed here?
I'm comfortable enough to be publicly secure w/ my sexuality, so please keep the inadequate insults coming, too bad you can't muster the same level of distinguished sophistication as i have in my life...
'Muhfukka' what an insecure, lost, lonely child you are, :-X seriously keep trying harder troll, wasting your time on this forum calling everyone/anyone a homo cuz your mother didn't love you or hug you enough as a child so that now, you have to resort to acting-out like a complete senseless moron, yelping, drawing all this unabated attention to yourself because your not intelligent nor constructive enough to find something more productive to do that just might have a meaningful, practical/useful impact on someone or something, somewhere else... ::) what a truly SAD display of wasted human potential. :'(
now I'm done w/ this crap, schooling you little kids, lecturing & all THIS.
this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior. ;D
Thank You.
Dumb People trying to act smart are very amusing.
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Does Dre make POPular music? Yes but to say he is literally Pop, is wrong. Dre is Hip Hop.
Pop is popular music. If a song reaches mainstream radio, it's pop.
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NWA is and was not pop. Something that was banned and got onto the radio doesn't automatically makie it pop. I think we all may have different definitions of "pop" here so that is why it is getting confusing...
Recorded music was popularized in the late 60s cuz of the LP. Albums overtook singles and yes rock-bands had majority of the sales in the late 60s (Hendrix, Zepplin, Beatles, etc.) This is why I say they blend into "pop" music because that was when teens could afford the albums... This is where the term started... Top 40, FM, etc... beatles, zepplin etc...
I think now label heads have found a "gimmick" or "sound' in which the masses will listen to. Something simple, hooky, etc.
Pop was never a genre until recently.
NWA blew up, they didn't remain in the underground.
We came a long way from not givin a fuck
Sellin tapes out of a trunk to movin this far up
Now we got the whole world starstruck
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They were pop because they were recording easy-listening songs
Exactly what I mean when I say pop. Pop = easy listening, mainstream-oriented.....Whether its of better quality than a producer with a more underground sound is entirely subjective.
I can't even argue with some of your stuff it's so absurd ::)
So now your saying pop is a genre (easy listening), okay, and Dre makes easy-listening music. If we want to get into genres now your not gonna find Dr. Dre in the "easy-listening" section at your local record store. I highly doubt Michael Bolton, Michael Buble, and NWA and 2001 are sitting side by side. jeeeez ???
So we have pop as in popular and pop as in genre. Dre is popular, but no, he does not fall into the false genre of "pop." Sorry... and stop saying everything is a fact because your arguing about subjective things... Like 2001 is better than Doggystyle and that's fact... go loot it up in Guinness book of records.
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If you think Dre has always been Pop, than you dont know what pop is homie. Pop is Michael Jackson, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, shit that you mostly hear today on radio. Pop music is like Dance music where you go to club and boogie. Does Dre make POPular music? Yes but to say he is literally Pop, is wrong. Dre is Hip Hop. Most of his old school shit is straight HIp Hop! Like NWA era and Chronic's.
Exactly also I'm sure if you talk to his peers.. anyone from Ghostface to Bilal to Kurupt to B-Real I highly highly doubt any of them will say "fuck yea Dre is pop man... that guy lives and breathes pop... perfect example. He should be up there with Madonna..."
He probably has the utmost respect from those dudes as a hip-hop icon that still remains so.
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Damn is this Rapture dude fo' real. The guy has got to be from Europe...it's the only logical explanation..
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How is dre not pop?
Sure he's not lady gaga pop but he is pop no doubt.
Do you really think dre is just delaying detox for so long because he wants it to sound good?
Fuck no he needs to be sure it sells.
And how often do you hear of dre working with an underground artists not signed to him?
You know damn well you'd be more surprised to hear he was working with Ill Bill than you would if he was working with Lady Gaga.
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How is dre not pop?
Sure he's not lady gaga pop but he is pop no doubt.
Do you really think dre is just delaying detox for so long because he wants it to sound good?
Fuck no he needs to be sure it sells.
And how often do you hear of dre working with an underground artists not signed to him?
You know damn well you'd be more surprised to hear he was working with Ill Bill than you would if he was working with Lady Gaga.
um, doesnt he have like tens of artists we cant even name on his tracks?
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In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now.
Do you expect mainstream records from the 90s to sound like mainstream records in 2010? Mainstream tastes change all the time.
Sure why not?? If you are talking about POP music of course. Now if your talking about Hip hop, than obviously it has changed from the past. My comment was regarding Dre always being Pop. That's false.
Lets get one thing clear. I'm not comparing Dr. Dre to Justin Timberlake or any boy bands. We are talking about the hip hop genre here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is targeted at the mainstream and intended to get airplay, aka music that most hip hop fans want to hear. That's what easy-listening is.
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Easy listening is shit like Abba.
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Does Dre make POPular music? Yes but to say he is literally Pop, is wrong. Dre is Hip Hop.
Pop is popular music. If a song reaches mainstream radio, it's pop.
No shit but thats not what the guy meant. He made it seem as if Dr Dre is not hardcore. Like he is not True Hip Hop, ya dig? So what im saying is that Dr. Dre can still be hardcore and be Mainstream.
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In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now.
Do you expect mainstream records from the 90s to sound like mainstream records in 2010? Mainstream tastes change all the time.
Sure why not?? If you are talking about POP music of course. Now if your talking about Hip hop, than obviously it has changed from the past. My comment was regarding Dre always being Pop. That's false.
Lets get one thing clear. I'm not comparing Dr. Dre to Justin Timberlake or any boy bands. We are talking about the hip hop genre here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is targeted at the mainstream and intended to get airplay, aka music that most hip hop fans want to hear. That's what easy-listening is.
That does not mean he is POP!! You cant fucken predict what will go mainstream. Nothing But a G Thang?? Who thought that was going to be mainstream?? That shit is straight old school gangsta. Dre Day? Real Motherfuken G's? Those were very popular. How the fuck is that POP?
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How is dre not pop?
Sure he's not lady gaga pop but he is pop no doubt.
Do you really think dre is just delaying detox for so long because he wants it to sound good?
Fuck no he needs to be sure it sells.
And how often do you hear of dre working with an underground artists not signed to him?
You know damn well you'd be more surprised to hear he was working with Ill Bill than you would if he was working with Lady Gaga.
um, doesnt he have like tens of artists we cant even name on his tracks?
Artists who weren't his protege at one point?
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I'm looking forward to it, and it will probably knock, fuck what you think.
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I'm looking forward to it, and it will probably knock, fuck what you think.
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I'm looking forward to it, and it will probably knock, fuck what you think.
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How is dre not pop?
Sure he's not lady gaga pop but he is pop no doubt.
Do you really think dre is just delaying detox for so long because he wants it to sound good?
Fuck no he needs to be sure it sells.
And how often do you hear of dre working with an underground artists not signed to him?
You know damn well you'd be more surprised to hear he was working with Ill Bill than you would if he was working with Lady Gaga.
um, doesnt he have like tens of artists we cant even name on his tracks?
Artists who weren't his protege at one point?
And of course they all get dropped once it becomes obvious they aren't going to be big.
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In da Club, Nothing But a G thang, Still DRE, Gin and JUice are all Popular records that aint nothing like the POp shit you hear now.
Do you expect mainstream records from the 90s to sound like mainstream records in 2010? Mainstream tastes change all the time.
Sure why not?? If you are talking about POP music of course. Now if your talking about Hip hop, than obviously it has changed from the past. My comment was regarding Dre always being Pop. That's false.
Lets get one thing clear. I'm not comparing Dr. Dre to Justin Timberlake or any boy bands. We are talking about the hip hop genre here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is targeted at the mainstream and intended to get airplay, aka music that most hip hop fans want to hear. That's what easy-listening is.
That does not mean he is POP!! You cant fucken predict what will go mainstream. Nothing But a G Thang?? Who thought that was going to be mainstream?? That shit is straight old school gangsta. Dre Day? Real Motherfuken G's? Those were very popular. How the fuck is that POP?
Its POP because it was what the mainstream hip hop audience wanted to hear for most of the 90s. Dre popularized that type of music, but that doesn't make him any less pop.
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Right so any genre music that's accepted by 'the masses' becomes pop instead of say Jazz, Electro, Rock etc. ::)
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Right so any genre music that's accepted by 'the masses' becomes pop instead of say Jazz, Electro, Rock etc. ::)
what do you think pop means?
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Pop is Kylie Minogue.
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Lets get one thing clear. I'm not comparing Dr. Dre to Justin Timberlake or any boy bands. We are talking about the hip hop genre here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is targeted at the mainstream and intended to get airplay, aka music that most hip hop fans want to hear. That's what easy-listening is.
Your starting to dig yourself in deeper. Bitches Ain't Shit, Natural Born Killaz, Remember me, etc. are not "easy-listening" tracks. Michael Bolton playing sax is easy-listening but also, to some, jazz. Michael Buble is easy-listening but also, to some, lounge music and pop (as a genre).
If your talking about Dre being "easy-listening" ONLY in the hip-hop context your still getting mixed up. I don't know anyone other than yourself who has an "easy-listening" sub-category in the Hip-Hop genre.
Your opening a can of worms, or whatever you call it re: underground. Underground stay underground cuz they suck OR because they try to stay underground meaning anti-promo, anti-conform, etc. A lot of good underground artists will get picked up and promoted eventually, and in your defin will become pop. ???
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The fuck are you dickheads on? Pop and Dr. Dre? you're kidding me right
Pop music (a term that originally derives from an abbreviation of "popular") is usually understood to be commercially recorded music, often oriented towards a youth market, usually consisting of relatively short, simple songs utilizing technological innovations to produce new variations on existing themes. Pop music has absorbed influences from most other forms of popular music, but as a genre is particularly associated with the rock and roll and later rock style
Dre's shit is nothing like the above, dre makes HIPHOP/RAP music. not fucking lady gaga shit.
Dre might feature POP ARTISTS on his songs, that doesn't make him a popstar.
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Your starting to dig yourself in deeper. Bitches Ain't Shit, Natural Born Killaz, Remember me, etc. are not "easy-listening" tracks. Michael Bolton playing sax is easy-listening but also, to some, jazz. Michael Buble is easy-listening but also, to some, lounge music and pop (as a genre).
Posting a couple tracks doesn't mean anything since I didn't say every song of his could be considered pop. I said he has made pop music throughout his career.
Underground stay underground because they try to stay underground meaning anti-promo, anti-conform, etc.
You're essentially agreeing with me here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is intended to either conform or create conformity.
If your talking about Dre being "easy-listening" ONLY in the hip-hop context your still getting mixed up. I don't know anyone other than yourself who has an "easy-listening" sub-category in the Hip-Hop genre.
Oh Rally? How do you explain a song like In da Club? That song can't be described as anything other than a song for the club. Doesn't that make it "easy-listening." What about How We Do? The Next Episode? Nuthin But a G Thang? These are all songs I would describe as easy listening. Simple but catchy beats with with simple catchy lyrics and hooks. Certainly more easy-listening than this song, wouldn't you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D4cdMcj5w
Pop music in hip hop must exist because people use those words to describe music. Just look on any song posted on this forum and you'll hear comments like "this won't get any airplay" or "this is a good mainstream track" "this will make a good club song".
Even look at your own comment. You specifically pointed out some of Dre's more hardcore tracks. If Remember Me is not "easy-listening", then you're implying that some of his other songs are.
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Nah you're getting hung up on the terminology. Sorry.
Dre can be a popstar without making pop because his tracks chart. Just like Bob Marly say.
Easy Listening is music terminology - its a genre. Easy to listen to music isn't in the Genre of Easy Listening by default.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
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Nah you're getting hung up on the terminology. Sorry.
Dre can be a popstar without making pop because his tracks chart. Just like Bob Marly say.
Easy Listening is music terminology - its a genre. Easy to listen to music isn't in the Genre of Easy Listening by default.
It should be fairly obvious I'm not talking about a music genre.
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It should be fairly obvious I'm not talking about a music genre.
If your not, your still not making any sense. You just said 50 Cent was "easy listening" same with next episode. I suppose you have a hard listening category toO?
I have never heard of anyone who puts Hip-Hop songs into "easy listening" and "pop" sub-genres. Hip-hop is the genre... there is no "easy listening" tracks WITHIN Hip-Hop unless you make up your own criteria (which you have).
If your gonna argue about why you think in da club is easy listening then forget it cuz now your just arguing about personal taste.
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Dre isn't pop, kanye isn't mainstream, dubcc is now completely lost.
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DubCC. Where people argue about Dr. Dre being a pop artist.
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DubCC. Where people argue about Dr. Dre being a pop artist.
I'm arguing against it ...
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Totally agree with the thread starter.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
I fail to see how that's the least bit relevant lol.
Just because you have a lack of diversity in music, doesn't mean everybody should.
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It's hip-hop or nuthin, Cham. I thought you knew this already :)
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It's hip-hop or nuthin, Cham. I thought you knew this already :)
Nobody sent me that memo lol.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
I fail to see how that's the least bit relevant lol.
Just because you have a lack of diversity in music, doesn't mean everybody should.
It's relevant, because it makes your opinion on music worthless (to me, at least). It also helps me understand why you digg the stuff Dre is putting out these days.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
I fail to see how that's the least bit relevant lol.
Just because you have a lack of diversity in music, doesn't mean everybody should.
It's relevant, because it makes your opinion on music worthless (to me, at least). It also helps me understand why you digg the stuff Dre is putting out these days.
So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
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So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
I'm not talking about other genres, I'm talking about pop music made for 13 year old girls. And you can stop trying to act like I'm stuck in the 90's, because you know nothing of my musical taste.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
I fail to see how that's the least bit relevant lol.
Just because you have a lack of diversity in music, doesn't mean everybody should.
It's relevant, because it makes your opinion on music worthless (to me, at least). It also helps me understand why you digg the stuff Dre is putting out these days.
So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
Didn't you say you only listen to radio R&B besides hip-hop?
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So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
I'm not talking about other genres, I'm talking about pop music made for 13 year old girls. And you can stop trying to act like I'm stuck in the 90's, because you know nothing of my musical taste.
That would be another genre, sir..
& what is your musical taste? Because I'm sure it's a bunch of 90's shit otherwise you couldn't co-sign an entire album as sucking ass while you've heard two songs off of it & "I Need A Doctor" might not even make it; so basically just one.
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This argument is retarded lol.
Dre has made great, classic music; end of discussion. Who THE FUCK cares what you people consider it?
Man, you are the Lady Gaga fan, right? That says it all right there..
I fail to see how that's the least bit relevant lol.
Just because you have a lack of diversity in music, doesn't mean everybody should.
It's relevant, because it makes your opinion on music worthless (to me, at least). It also helps me understand why you digg the stuff Dre is putting out these days.
So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
Didn't you say you only listen to radio R&B besides hip-hop?
Mainly, just Hip Hop & R&B. But I listen to some songs of some artists across all genres of music; but I would have to guess that only takes up 10% of my musical interests & the rest is Hip Hop & R&B.
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Listen young guns...the good doctor is hip hop/pop/r&b..he has went pop with EVE and Gwen Stefani..he is pop now because he is past the limit of being popular amongst the masses(europe,japan,usa ect.)....now do he has easy listening tracks..NO!I cant name 1...easy listening in hip hop is (warren g,Digable planets, Luaryn Hill ect.)..why is this so hard to see.whats the problem.
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Your starting to dig yourself in deeper. Bitches Ain't Shit, Natural Born Killaz, Remember me, etc. are not "easy-listening" tracks. Michael Bolton playing sax is easy-listening but also, to some, jazz. Michael Buble is easy-listening but also, to some, lounge music and pop (as a genre).
Posting a couple tracks doesn't mean anything since I didn't say every song of his could be considered pop. I said he has made pop music throughout his career.
Underground stay underground because they try to stay underground meaning anti-promo, anti-conform, etc.
You're essentially agreeing with me here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is intended to either conform or create conformity.
If your talking about Dre being "easy-listening" ONLY in the hip-hop context your still getting mixed up. I don't know anyone other than yourself who has an "easy-listening" sub-category in the Hip-Hop genre.
Oh Rally? How do you explain a song like In da Club? That song can't be described as anything other than a song for the club. Doesn't that make it "easy-listening." What about How We Do? The Next Episode? Nuthin But a G Thang? These are all songs I would describe as easy listening. Simple but catchy beats with with simple catchy lyrics and hooks. Certainly more easy-listening than this song, wouldn't you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D4cdMcj5w
Pop music in hip hop must exist because people use those words to describe music. Just look on any song posted on this forum and you'll hear comments like "this won't get any airplay" or "this is a good mainstream track" "this will make a good club song".
Even look at your own comment. You specifically pointed out some of Dre's more hardcore tracks. If Remember Me is not "easy-listening", then you're implying that some of his other songs are.
I feel u on some things,but sorry my friend in da club and the others u named,are not in the easy listening section period..now it being not complicated to listen to, yeah..but easy listen section..it will never be.
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Listen young guns...the good doctor is hip hop/pop/r&b..he has went pop with EVE and Gwen Stefani..he is pop now because he is past the limit of being popular amongst the masses(europe,japan,usa ect.)....now do he has easy listening tracks..NO!I cant name 1...easy listening in hip hop is (warren g,Digable planets, Luaryn Hill ect.)..why is this so hard to see.whats the problem.
Hmmm, well I'd say Warren actually makes music no one generally likes (and I'm a big fan) his style is more softer rap and big instrumentals, more liks a liad back version of Quik. Luaryn Hill is a incredible lyricist and a fierce rapper and although she does ballads too with her solo stuff she's still not pop.
Some examples of pop rap artists for me would be
Puffy
Will Smith
Wyclef Jean (though he makes great music)
Ja Rule
Richard Blackwood lol
Joe Budden
50 Cent (only some)
Snoop (flexible enough to do whatever he wants)
Lloyd Banks
Coolio (always been on the edge of straight pop rap, but mainly because he's a talented hit maker. He's still a rapper first and foremost)
JD
Rufus Blaq :-X
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So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
I'm not talking about other genres, I'm talking about pop music made for 13 year old girls. And you can stop trying to act like I'm stuck in the 90's, because you know nothing of my musical taste.
That would be another genre, sir..
& what is your musical taste? Because I'm sure it's a bunch of 90's shit otherwise you couldn't co-sign an entire album as sucking ass while you've heard two songs off of it & "I Need A Doctor" might not even make it; so basically just one.
Why u shitting on the best times in hiphop!what has the 90s done to u to make u be so disrespectful toward that musical time..cause i know lil.brothas that wish they where in the 90s era...stop that kind of hate homie u love hiphop but shit on it at the same time....your stuck in the 90s..niggaz kill me.
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Listen young guns...the good doctor is hip hop/pop/r&b..he has went pop with EVE and Gwen Stefani..he is pop now because he is past the limit of being popular amongst the masses(europe,japan,usa ect.)....now do he has easy listening tracks..NO!I cant name 1...easy listening in hip hop is (warren g,Digable planets, Luaryn Hill ect.)..why is this so hard to see.whats the problem.
Hmmm, well I'd say Warren actually makes music no one generally likes (and I'm a big fan) his style is more softer rap and big instrumentals, more liks a liad back version of Quik. Luaryn Hill is a incredible lyricist and a fierce rapper and although she does ballads too with her solo stuff she's still not pop.
Some examples of pop rap artists for me would be
Puffy
Will Smith
Wyclef Jean (though he makes great music)
Ja Rule
Richard Blackwood lol
Joe Budden
50 Cent (only some)
Snoop (flexible enough to do whatever he wants)
Lloyd Banks
Coolio (always been on the edge of straight pop rap, but mainly because he's a talented hit maker. He's still a rapper first and foremost)
JD
Rufus Blaq :-X
I agree..besides 1 thing..warren g is easy listening though.
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So because I'm open to other genres & other sounds of music, that makes my opinion "worthless"? :D
You actually just killed the validity of your own opinion, dick lmao.
It ain't '92 anymore, chief. Time to face fact.
I'm not talking about other genres, I'm talking about pop music made for 13 year old girls. And you can stop trying to act like I'm stuck in the 90's, because you know nothing of my musical taste.
That would be another genre, sir..
& what is your musical taste? Because I'm sure it's a bunch of 90's shit otherwise you couldn't co-sign an entire album as sucking ass while you've heard two songs off of it & "I Need A Doctor" might not even make it; so basically just one.
Why u shitting on the best times in hiphop!what has the 90s done to u to make u be so disrespectful toward that musical time..cause i know lil.brothas that wish they where in the 90s era...stop that kind of hate homie u love hiphop but shit on it at the same time....your stuck in the 90s..niggaz kill me.
I'm not shitting on the 90's. I love music from the 90's.
But I also find a way to love music from today, without sitting there hating it because it doesn't sound like music from the 90's.
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I'm not shitting on the 90's. I love music from the 90's.
But I also find a way to love music from today, without sitting there hating it because it doesn't sound like music from the 90's.
It has nothing to do with the era of music. In the 90's you had Madonna and the Spice Girls, you probably like them too.
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Lets get one thing clear. I'm not comparing Dr. Dre to Justin Timberlake or any boy bands. We are talking about the hip hop genre here. Dre is pop because he makes music that is targeted at the mainstream and intended to get airplay, aka music that most hip hop fans want to hear. That's what easy-listening is.
Your starting to dig yourself in deeper. Bitches Ain't Shit, Natural Born Killaz, Remember me, etc. are not "easy-listening" tracks. Michael Bolton playing sax is easy-listening but also, to some, jazz. Michael Buble is easy-listening but also, to some, lounge music and pop (as a genre).
If your talking about Dre being "easy-listening" ONLY in the hip-hop context your still getting mixed up. I don't know anyone other than yourself who has an "easy-listening" sub-category in the Hip-Hop genre.
Your opening a can of worms, or whatever you call it re: underground. Underground stay underground cuz they suck OR because they try to stay underground meaning anti-promo, anti-conform, etc. A lot of good underground artists will get picked up and promoted eventually, and in your defin will become pop. ???
The guy is a fucken idiot. Just ignore him. Dude thinks Real Motherfucking G's is Pop hahaha! Let him be. Just tell him what he wants to hear.
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I'm not shitting on the 90's. I love music from the 90's.
But I also find a way to love music from today, without sitting there hating it because it doesn't sound like music from the 90's.
It has nothing to do with the era of music. In the 90's you had Madonna and the Spice Girls, you probably like them too.
I obviously meant 90's Hip Hop.
& no, I was never into that. Lady Gaga is the only artist who makes that kind of music that I like.
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let's get back on topic......detox won't be any good....
Ke$ha is the new dr. dre
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let's get back on topic......detox won't be any good....
Ke$ha is the new dr. dre
wow. i've seen it all
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I think mainstream / commercialized music is being confused with pop. Pop music is its own genre. Its Brittany Spears, Milli Vanilli, Backstreet Boys etc.... Pop artists have lunch boxes, posters, and Teen Magazine cover cameos in honor of them. Does that sound like Dr. Dre to you?....I didn't think so. Hip Hop has become more mainstream and/or commercialized, but it isn't pop music. Dr. Dre and NWA were one of the first groups/artists to crossover that fine line of underground to mainstream. They made music designed to appeal to a minority and word of mouth, the music, and the controversy made it appeal to a wider audience than what it was intended for.
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let's get back on topic......detox won't be any good....
Ke$ha is the new dr. dre
hahaha
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hahaha your intellectual fortitude has masticated the reticulum of your innermost desires through the forum in which.....cut the crap euro, youre a faggot and a flaming one at that
who's euro?? & whats w/ obsessing over nationality/sexuality? why so prejudice... ??? i thought this was a west-coast hip-hop forum... :-\ isn't this the subject matter that shall be discussed here?
I'm comfortable enough to be publicly secure w/ my sexuality, so please keep the inadequate insults coming, too bad you can't muster the same level of distinguished sophistication as i have in my life...
'Muhfukka' what an insecure, lost, lonely child you are, :-X seriously keep trying harder troll, wasting your time on this forum calling everyone/anyone a homo cuz your mother didn't love you or hug you enough as a child so that now, you have to resort to acting-out like a complete senseless moron, yelping, drawing all this unabated attention to yourself because your not intelligent nor constructive enough to find something more productive to do that just might have a meaningful, practical/useful impact on someone or something, somewhere else... ::) what a truly SAD display of wasted human potential. :'(
now I'm done w/ this crap, schooling you little kids, lecturing & all THIS.
this is my last post/interjection on this childish, unnecessary behavior. ;D
Thank You.
this has gay written all over it
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Dre didnt even produce Kush and that shit is average. Its a sick beat for someone like Khalil but it sounds like any other recycled Dre beat. Banging drums and boring piano loop, and Akon is wack.
I Need A Doctor is corny and fucking awful. If this track really is on the album, thats already 2 out of 12 tracks that are average.
And none of the westcoast veterans will be on Detox apart from Snoop. I doubt kurupt, daz and all them dudes will be on the album.
And now were finding out that Keri Hilson will be on the album. Dre lost it a long time ago/
Horrible post. Please don't post here again. And i'm not even a Dre fan.
Dre did produce it. It doesn't matter who played the piano, the composer was Dre. Because Suge once made crackhead Daz say that Dre stole a beat from him, now every bum is on that "Dre didn't produce this" kick. Every producer has a signature style and most of their beats sound similar. Every Neptunes beat sounds the same. Every Timbaland beat sounds the same. Same thing for Cool and Dre, Toomp, Scot Storch etc.
I need a doctor is produced by a better and more creative producer than anybody on the west right now with the exception of Dre. None of these dudes (Battlecat, Quik, Daz, Meech Wells, Fredwreck etc.) are moving forward. It's like they're are stuck in a time warp. All of their shit sound dated as fuck.
It's a GOOD thing that none of the "westcoast veterans" will be on the album cause they all FUCKING SUCK. A bunch of old irrelevant farts who have been making horrible music now for a decade. If any of them called Dre up to ask to be on the album, Dre probably laughed and hung up. The 90's are over. They should except it and you should too.
Nooob Cake YOUR A CLOWN yes it matterrs who MADE the beat. DRE MADE HIS NAME AS A PRODUCER NOT A 'COMPOSER'. its clear u live up to ur name. dre is straight garbage now if u knew about his crack a bottle song that came out a while ago he stole the sample from some french band and put like an extra kick in it. its exactly the same song dre didnt do shit. TOOO MANY PEOPLE ARE TAKIN CREDIT FOR OTHERS WORK.
as for what u said about westcoast veterans i cant wholly disagree with u that most of the veterans have lost 'it' because it is pretty true. BUT COME FUCKING ON..... your actually gonna put keri hilson on a song garbageeee
MARK MY WORDS i bet theres gonna be a little wayne drake feature and a little rihanna and have a hook by justin bieber.....OH U DIDNT KNOW??? THEY ALREADY HAVE A SONG TOGETHER
JUSTIN FUCKING BIEBER AND THE NIGGER WITH ATTITUDE DR. DRE........TOGETHER. PLEASE KILL URSELF DRE....unless u make an album with kendrick and tde them dudes are doin it.
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god, please make it stop...I know I haven't lived the life of a christian but If u do me this one favor ill be good, I swear.
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oh no