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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: I_ThePope_I on January 05, 2011, 02:26:09 PM
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Those who say this, did you hear Relapse? I listened to it faded last night...
3 a.m.
Hello
Same Song & Dance
Medicine Ball
Stay Wide Awake
Old Time's Sake
Must Be The Ganja
Deja Vu
Crack A Bottle
All god-tier beats. Even the Dr. West intro was on some next level ish.
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Besides this I have to agree with what most people are saying.. I have yet to be impressed by the pre-detox tracks..
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Underground
Deja Vu
Stay Wide Awake
Those 3 in order, were on another level. Then beats like My Mom, Same Song & Dance, Hello, etc. were amazing, and helped this album shit on almost everything else that year (instrumentally speaking). Too bad Em completely ruined it with his gayass flow and shitty lyrics, like maybe on a few tracks, but not every fuckin track. I thought this was gonna be the "Detox sound" and it probably was at some point, but looks like not anymore.
And speaking of Relapse, I figured out today that the concept song with Dre on the phone, and the chainsaw on the beat (forgot the name) was most likely supposed to be after the into (instead of 1 AM). You can tell, since the end of the intro is him waking up, and the beginning of this song, it continues where the intro left off. To me, that was one of the best Eminem songs i've ever heard. Especially the part at the end where he starts mic-trading with his evil side, then Dre gets on the phone, and eventually they start rapping the same lines. Fuckin crazy track, which CAN be called a concept track.
EDIT - It was "My Darling" from the bonus tracks on Relapse. If you were to mix the bonus tracks and the Refill bonus disc with the original Relapse, you could actually come up with a pretty ill album, regardless of Eminem trying to ruin everything.
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Have to agree with above. Stay wide awake is awesome
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Underground
Deja Vu
Stay Wide Awake
Those 3 in order, were on another level. Then beats like My Mom, Same Song & Dance, Hello, etc. were amazing, and helped this album shit on almost everything else that year (instrumentally speaking). Too bad Em completely ruined it with his gayass flow and shitty lyrics, like maybe on a few tracks, but not every fuckin track. I thought this was gonna be the "Detox sound" and it probably was at some point, but looks like not anymore.
And speaking of Relapse, I figured out today that the concept song with Dre on the phone, and the chainsaw on the beat (forgot the name) was most likely supposed to be after the into (instead of 1 AM). You can tell, since the end of the intro is him waking up, and the beginning of this song, it continues where the intro left off. To me, that was one of the best Eminem songs i've ever heard. Especially the part at the end where he starts mic-trading with his evil side, then Dre gets on the phone, and eventually they start rapping the same lines. Fuckin crazy track, which CAN be called a concept track.
EDIT - It was "My Darling" from the bonus tracks on Relapse. If you were to mix the bonus tracks and the Refill bonus disc with the original Relapse, you could actually come up with a pretty ill album, regardless of Eminem trying to ruin everything.
Agree, that some beats sounded really good.. altho the way Dre made those beats is kinda weak, they are simple, as always by Dre, but they are alot worse than his older productions.. no comparing, im happy Dre left this way behind him (hopefully)
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another dre thread...
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relapse had amazing sonics and mixing...definitely some 'next level' sounds. my major problem with dre's production was both the musical direction and lyrical content of it. not to say it doesn't work for what they were going for, but for me this was over the top and corny. couple of tracks were cool. i think some of quik's production on blaqkout was superior, crazy sonics and some vibes i could actually get down with.
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he fell off after 1992.........
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he fell off after 1992.........
LOL, just so stupid
but, Relapse had incredible production
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Just cause a beat is simple does not equate to bad and just because a beat is complex it does not mean it's good.
Dre's style has never really been "complex" by any standard. Have you not heard Still Dre?
Dre has a unique ear for sound that allows a track feel flush and full of atmosphere. He brings out a specific energy in HOW IT SOUNDS.
The only thing that Dr.Dre apparently has been lacking for the past decade is confidence. The proof of this is various interviews by artists affiliated with him such as Bishop Lamont & 50 cent. Then there's all the other commentary concerning his perfectionism. Add on top of the fact the recent Alex Da Kid produced track featuring eminem reflecting over Dr.Dre's lack of confidence.
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Additionally, there is nothing wrong with his recent productions. Kush is not a proper single for Dre to launch Detox. For beats? Sure. His production on Relapse varied between good, amazing, and phenomenal. The only thing lacking might be a certain energy (some say funk but still dre is not really funky yet it's packed with energy) that's traditionally associated wit his singles.
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Just cause a beat is simple does not equate to bad and just because a beat is complex it does not mean it's good.
Dre's style has never really been "complex" by any standard. Have you not heard Still Dre?
Dre has a unique ear for sound that allows a track feel flush and full of atmosphere. He brings out a specific energy in HOW IT SOUNDS.
The only thing that Dr.Dre apparently has been lacking for the past decade is confidence. The proof of this is various interviews by artists affiliated with him such as Bishop Lamont & 50 cent. Then there's all the other commentary concerning his perfectionism. Add on top of the fact the recent Alex Da Kid produced track featuring eminem reflecting over Dr.Dre's lack of confidence.
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Additionally, there is nothing wrong with his recent productions. Kush is not a proper single for Dre to launch Detox. For beats? Sure. His production on Relapse varied between good, amazing, and phenomenal. The only thing lacking might be a certain energy (some say funk but still dre is not really funky yet it's packed with energy) that's traditionally associated wit his singles.
Exactly. You know what beat was real simple but than again would literally get me moving? Outta Control REMIX! That beat was fucken ridiculous in my opinion. And i agree that Relapse had some amazing beats. Stay Wide Awake was in another level. It was like a horror film. The beat was amazing and i also loved same song and dance even though you can also claim it was simple. But the sound was unique, as you can hear something of a choir in the background and the piano also simple but the sound was of a scary tune. Amazing beats and yes, eminem sometimes would kill the beat with his flow but like always came pretty hard with his lyrics and concepts.
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Just cause a beat is simple does not equate to bad and just because a beat is complex it does not mean it's good.
Dre's style has never really been "complex" by any standard. Have you not heard Still Dre?
Dre has a unique ear for sound that allows a track feel flush and full of atmosphere. He brings out a specific energy in HOW IT SOUNDS.
The only thing that Dr.Dre apparently has been lacking for the past decade is confidence. The proof of this is various interviews by artists affiliated with him such as Bishop Lamont & 50 cent. Then there's all the other commentary concerning his perfectionism. Add on top of the fact the recent Alex Da Kid produced track featuring eminem reflecting over Dr.Dre's lack of confidence.
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Additionally, there is nothing wrong with his recent productions. Kush is not a proper single for Dre to launch Detox. For beats? Sure. His production on Relapse varied between good, amazing, and phenomenal. The only thing lacking might be a certain energy (some say funk but still dre is not really funky yet it's packed with energy) that's traditionally associated wit his singles.
Exactly. You know what beat was real simple but than again would literally get me moving? Outta Control REMIX! That beat was fucken ridiculous in my opinion. And i agree that Relapse had some amazing beats. Stay Wide Awake was in another level. It was like a horror film. The beat was amazing and i also loved same song and dance even though you can also claim it was simple. But the sound was unique, as you can hear something of a choir in the background and the piano also simple but the sound was of a scary tune. Amazing beats and yes, eminem sometimes would kill the beat with his flow but like always came pretty hard with his lyrics and concepts.
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he fell off after 1992.........
how his last album was the chronic ;D (chronic 2001 *echo*)
what dre and em song are you talking about t-dot?
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Dr. Dre In reality is in another level. He is better than what he was in the past. His SOUND changed but not his talent. He is taking beats in a different directions than most producers. Dr. Dre can make beats fit concepts perfectly. He uses sounds that can be used in a scary or horror movie. He can give you sad or happy tunes, fast or slow paced. Dr. Dre is making shit outta the movies. You listen to many relapse tracks and he takes you to Eminem's idea. Eminem talks a lot about killing, drugs, horror and Dr. Dre uses sounds and beats to match the concept BUT its still HIP HOP haha. Its still a RAP!! That's where i think Dr. Dre is incredible. The beat for Busta's album (Carried away ft. NAS) was amazing. Beat was fast paced with high energy, sound was on some gladiator shit but yet lets Busta and NAs floss their rhymes in a Poetic way. haha maybe im getting carried away but that's what I HEAR. This is the type of shit that i been waiting for in DETOX. Dr. Dre claimed in the past it would be something of a HIP HOp MUSICAL. The album would be a whole story and the beats would fit every "episode" or track in the album. If DR. Dre keeps his word, we might be listening to a HISTORIC HIP HOP ALBUM. The lyrics would obviously have to be on point but the production will be the other half of the album. Dr. Dre has never fell off in my opinion. I can choose so many beats that he did in the last 5 years that are exceptional. I think people need to listen more, maybe smoke some weed, put on your head phones and dissect the tracks behind the lyrics. Try and listen to every sound his mixes in the album. From the bass to the pianos to beat and just the sounds in the background because DRE will always surprise you with some shit.
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he fell off after 1992.........
how his last album was the chronic ;D (chronic 2001 *echo*)
what dre and em song are you talking about t-dot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aycd-IatGQ&feature=fvst
Dre has a few bars on the phone near the end. The part with the evil Em is sick, but I didn't think too much of this track when I first heard it. It's almost a year later that I really started liking it and now its one of my favourite Em tracks. Produced by Em too btw.
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When did "When it Rains it Pours" by 50 come out? That beat was insaaaaane. :o
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When did "When it Rains it Pours" by 50 come out? That beat was insaaaaane. :o
Late '05, but i'm pretty sure it was one of the leftover Dre beats/songs from Massacre, which would mean Dre made it in '04 some time. I didn't really think much of it at the time (since all of Dre's other shit at the time was better IMO) but now i'm feelin it way more. I think it might have been 50 though that I didn't like on there, and still think didnt fit that beat. That would of really suited Banks I think.
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When did "When it Rains it Pours" by 50 come out? That beat was insaaaaane. :o
Late '05, but i'm pretty sure it was one of the leftover Dre beats/songs from Massacre, which would mean Dre made it in '04 some time. I didn't really think much of it at the time (since all of Dre's other shit at the time was better IMO) but now i'm feelin it way more. I think it might have been 50 though that I didn't like on there, and still think didnt fit that beat. That would of really suited Banks I think.
Nah 50 sounds good on it, this was the era when people were hating on 50 and they overlooked this song saying it wasn't that good. But I always thought the beat was next level and 50 sounded dope on it with good subject matter.
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well he had some nice stuff last year, but also some questionable stuff
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to me, dre is more like a shodw of himself. as a beatmaker he fell off a long time ago (even tho he can create good instrumentals every now & then), but as a music-producer he still got it. absolutely
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Don't think I've really felt a Dre track since Tha Blue Carpet...I mean not one that's topeed 'Imagine'.
Can anyone shoot some recommendations/youtubes that YOU think tops that track? 8)
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his most recent stuff has been dope IMO, the Relapse album and Ridaz and So Bad I enjoyed
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his most recent stuff has been dope IMO, the Relapse album and Ridaz and So Bad I enjoyed
I didn't like that he produced only couple of tracks on Recovery would have liked to hear more Relapse had some good beats and some not so good ones
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Dr dre fell off before 06, even chronic 2001 was not a classic ..;
dre fell off like snoop when they left death row records
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Don't think I've really felt a Dre track since Tha Blue Carpet...I mean not one that's topeed 'Imagine'.
Can anyone shoot some recommendations/youtubes that YOU think tops that track? 8)
agreed...probably the last dre beat i really felt
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how can anyone hate on "ridaz" and "so bad"
DOPE!!
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He IS a shadow of his former self, but to be fair to the man, his former self was the best producer in hip-hop, and its tough to follow what he's done. Especially in this throw-away internet era.
When I initially heard "Kush" i thought it was rubbish but the more I've heard it the more I've enjoyed it. I think he can still knock a great album out...if it ever happens.
As for the initial post about the beats on Recovery...not one beat on that album really got me interested to be honest. Eminem is way too "pop" and commerical these days for me to take him seriously as an artist though so that may be why.
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Not one Dre produced track after 06 makes me go :o Some nice tracks on Relapse, but they're still not on the same level as his productions from his 00-06 era to me.
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When did "When it Rains it Pours" by 50 come out? That beat was insaaaaane. :o
I agree, that beat was stupid sick. Simple, slow but with a nice vibe.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/FV7X48vxUYE?fs=1&
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Even Dave chappelle thinks that dre fell off after the chronic..........and all these idiots saying he fell off after 06..........I say PLEASE
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Funny how insane people are. All of the beats on Relapse were dope. You can say what you want about Eminem over them, but they were bangin'.
Let's be honest, most people today co-sign those 808 claps on Southern music like it belongs in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.
Give me a Dre beat over 95% of the industry.
It's HILARIOUS to me how so many of you can talk shit about Dre day in & day out, but then he drops music & you're all running to it, giving it your critique. If you have such low standards for Dre these days, what's the point of going so hard over his music? Just let him drop what he drops.
If he "fell off", don't listen to him. This isn't a rant defending Dre, this is me mindboggled over the hypocrisy of people lol.
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I love the Brother Man Dr. Dre.........and I will always be checking for him........all the time.......but He fell off...he doesn't make dope music anymore...that doesn't mean I don't still have love for him............
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his last good beat was Outta Control Remix
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Funny how insane people are. All of the beats on Relapse were dope. You can say what you want about Eminem over them, but they were bangin'.
Let's be honest, most people today co-sign those 808 claps on Southern music like it belongs in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.
Give me a Dre beat over 95% of the industry....
yea i agree with you. Beats on relapse were crazy and even if we agree that Dr Dre fell off he`s still better than majority of producers right now.
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his most recent stuff has been dope IMO, the Relapse album and Ridaz and So Bad I enjoyed
I didn't like that he produced only couple of tracks on Recovery would have liked to hear more Relapse had some good beats and some not so good ones
I would've liked more Dre tracks on Recovery as well but I thought Relapse had dope production. I think Dre's confidence took a hit when Under Pressure leaked and got negative response
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He IS a shadow of his former self, but to be fair to the man, his former self was the best producer in hip-hop, and its tough to follow what he's done. Especially in this throw-away internet era.
When I initially heard "Kush" i thought it was rubbish but the more I've heard it the more I've enjoyed it. I think he can still knock a great album out...if it ever happens.
As for the initial post about the beats on Recovery...not one beat on that album really got me interested to be honest. Eminem is way too "pop" and commerical these days for me to take him seriously as an artist though so that may be why.
how is he a shadow of his former self?
Funny how insane people are. All of the beats on Relapse were dope. You can say what you want about Eminem over them, but they were bangin'.
Let's be honest, most people today co-sign those 808 claps on Southern music like it belongs in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.
Give me a Dre beat over 95% of the industry.
It's HILARIOUS to me how so many of you can talk shit about Dre day in & day out, but then he drops music & you're all running to it, giving it your critique. If you have such low standards for Dre these days, what's the point of going so hard over his music? Just let him drop what he drops.
If he "fell off", don't listen to him. This isn't a rant defending Dre, this is me mindboggled over the hypocrisy of people lol.
i know what you mean.
some of them were telling others to get over Detox, yet they were quick to check out Kush :laugh:
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his most recent stuff has been dope IMO, the Relapse album and Ridaz and So Bad I enjoyed
I didn't like that he produced only couple of tracks on Recovery would have liked to hear more Relapse had some good beats and some not so good ones
I would've liked more Dre tracks on Recovery as well but I thought Relapse had dope production. I think Dre's confidence took a hit when Under Pressure leaked and got negative response
Relapse was aiight Under Pressure got bsd feedbsck cause it was wack and Kush beat is nothing special even though Dre didn't produce it
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For the sake of this thread, who do yall think is better than Dre at producing right now? I know some will say Kanye, and maybe Timbo, but to me those are the only 2 that can be compared at the moment.
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his most recent stuff has been dope IMO, the Relapse album and Ridaz and So Bad I enjoyed
I didn't like that he produced only couple of tracks on Recovery would have liked to hear more Relapse had some good beats and some not so good ones
I would've liked more Dre tracks on Recovery as well but I thought Relapse had dope production. I think Dre's confidence took a hit when Under Pressure leaked and got negative response
Relapse was aiight Under Pressure got bsd feedbsck cause it was wack and Kush beat is nothing special even though Dre didn't produce it
Relapse is really slept on production wise, and I think Dre didnt have time to work on Recovery that much because he was working on Detox. Kush is produced by Khalil but has Dre influences in it.
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People are ingnorant! Dre will always be Dre and music never stays the same and of course people will like some tracks better then other but if you a real fan and supporter you got to give it up! I think Dre is going to do what is right and just be Dre! He ain't fell off!!
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For the sake of this thread, who do yall think is better than Dre at producing right now? I know some will say Kanye, and maybe Timbo, but to me those are the only 2 that can be compared at the moment.
people out there right now - DJ Quik, Danja. No way Dre has lost it, Make Up Sex gives a glimpse of the crazy new drum sounds, but i gotta hear some of his own shit for Detox and 2011 gangsta beats for Slim The Mobster.
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Is anybody looking at the fact that dre been out since like 1980.shit 4 him 2 make hits from 1980-2006 is a good run.what other producer or rapper could say they been around that long.but its 2011 and dre could still make hot records.i give props 2 guys like dre, ice cube,ll cool j 4 being able 2 still be active after so long
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For the sake of this thread, who do yall think is better than Dre at producing right now? I know some will say Kanye, and maybe Timbo, but to me those are the only 2 that can be compared at the moment.
Factor, Apollo Brown, Kno, Black Milk, Maker, Blue Sky Black Death, Alchemist, Oddisee, Jake One, Madlib, Big K.R.I.T...and these are only the dudes who put in major heat this year. I could add more but I think you get the point. What did Dre even produce this year?
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this is another "beating the "dead horse"" type of thread. chill foreal.
i just think some fans don't know when to voice their opinions. sometimes it always shakes shit up for nothin.
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Don't forget that "Encore/Curtain's Up" track with Em & 50. That would've been a dope Detox hype track. Waaay better than "Crack The Bottle."
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Even though Dre didn't have any hits lately, I don't really think you can say he fell off.
First of all someone already posted that he had a successful run for 26 years, and I couldn't agree more.
Second of all, he has never released anything to ridicule himself. The Beats headphones were a success, the label is doing great and even though he released only one single, he didn't drop anything that he should be ashamed of.
These topics are exactly why Dre is so secretive about his work and will not release unless he is sure. The second he goes public people are so quick to judge him.
It really agitates me when people think they can criticize anyone. Sure, the internet is a medium where everyone can express their opinions, but when people think they can say he has made shitty beats and fell off after he has had more success than anyone in this genre then you should shut off your computer and think about why you loved music again.
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"""...haters say Dre fell off, how NIGGA? his last album was "2001" they wanna know if he still got it, they say rap changed - they wanna know how he feel about it"
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"All you niggas that said that I turned pop. Or the Firm flop. Y'all are the reason Dre ain't been getting no sleep" ;D
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....."so FUCK yall - ALL YALL - if yall dont like me, blow me".
:-*
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how about that song he did for Raekwon , that shit was dope!
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He IS a shadow of his former self, but to be fair to the man, his former self was the best producer in hip-hop, and its tough to follow what he's done. Especially in this throw-away internet era.
When I initially heard "Kush" i thought it was rubbish but the more I've heard it the more I've enjoyed it. I think he can still knock a great album out...if it ever happens.
As for the initial post about the beats on Recovery...not one beat on that album really got me interested to be honest. Eminem is way too "pop" and commerical these days for me to take him seriously as an artist though so that may be why.
thank u ..this is by far the best way to put it...with class.
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how about that song he did for Raekwon , that shit was dope!
i agree..classic tune in my book.
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Funny how insane people are. All of the beats on Relapse were dope. You can say what you want about Eminem over them, but they were bangin'.
Let's be honest, most people today co-sign those 808 claps on Southern music like it belongs in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.
Give me a Dre beat over 95% of the industry.
It's HILARIOUS to me how so many of you can talk shit about Dre day in & day out, but then he drops music & you're all running to it, giving it your critique. If you have such low standards for Dre these days, what's the point of going so hard over his music? Just let him drop what he drops.
If he "fell off", don't listen to him. This isn't a rant defending Dre, this is me mindboggled over the hypocrisy of people lol.
i feel u..but not all the beats where tight....he needs mel- man back..plain and simple.
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how about that song he did for Raekwon , that shit was dope!
i agree..classic tune in my book.
One of the best tracks, if not THE best, of '09 for me. The beat, the hook, RAEKWON, everything. Just a fuckin crazy record. Smooth, hard, gangsta, everything in that one. And it's one of those ones from '06 or early '07 that Dre did with him.
And to the guy above me, I'm pretty sure Mel-Man came back to work with Dre in like '05 or '06, not sure if he's still around though.
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
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Over the years I understood that Dr.Dres production was about the sound quality, and not the music, like for Chronic and Doggystyle, he used Daz & Warren G for the music, and for the 2001 he used Scott and Mel-Man... I could even say that Dr.Dre sucks as a beat maker, but his perfectionist side makes him a great album/song producer
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
come on son...u no thats not correct.dre,ra,lyfe jennings..all came correct on this track(CATALINA).really dont know how u see.
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Over the years I understood that Dr.Dres production was about the sound quality, and not the music, like for Chronic and Doggystyle, he used Daz & Warren G for the music, and for the 2001 he used Scott and Mel-Man... I could even say that Dr.Dre sucks as a beat maker, but his perfectionist side makes him a great album/song producer
True dat..just like he used (dj yella) back in the NWA days...dre always had some one else doing beats....not saying he not a beat maker himself.
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Over the years I understood that Dr.Dres production was about the sound quality, and not the music, like for Chronic and Doggystyle, he used Daz & Warren G for the music, and for the 2001 he used Scott and Mel-Man... I could even say that Dr.Dre sucks as a beat maker, but his perfectionist side makes him a great album/song producer
didnt he do most of d.o.c.'s beats alone? and those were classic
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^^^^^
some of his best work
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
2010 wasn't a consistent year for Dre, but overall i still think he's the best producer, nothing to do with ignorance, just opinion.
Over the years I understood that Dr.Dres production was about the sound quality, and not the music, like for Chronic and Doggystyle, he used Daz & Warren G for the music, and for the 2001 he used Scott and Mel-Man... I could even say that Dr.Dre sucks as a beat maker, but his perfectionist side makes him a great album/song producer
Daz & Warren G brought ideas & samples, Dre had others for the instruments
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
2010 wasn't a consistent year for Dre, but overall i still think he's the best producer, nothing to do with ignorance, just opinion.
Explain how he is the best producer in 2010. He didn't produce an album, hell he didn't even produce his own single. From my count around 5 songs came out in 2010 with the Dre name attached. I hope by "overall" you mean career-wise and not what I mean by best producer today, otherwise that's just blatant stannery.
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
come on son...u no thats not correct.dre,ra,lyfe jennings..all came correct on this track(CATALINA).really dont know how u see.
I'm not saying its a bad song. But its Dre's basic piano loop and its the least interesting song on the album. Kiss the Ring, Surgical Gloves, Sonny's Missing, Pyrex Vision, Black Mozart, New Wu, etc >>>>>>>>
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
come on son...u no thats not correct.dre,ra,lyfe jennings..all came correct on this track(CATALINA).really dont know how u see.
I'm not saying its a bad song. But its Dre's basic piano loop and its the least interesting song on the album. Kiss the Ring, Surgical Gloves, Sonny's Missing, Pyrex Vision, Black Mozart, New Wu, etc >>>>>>>>
I love that "Black Mozart" joint, Rza really brought the heat on that one
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I don't think anyone's speaking down on Dre's legacy or the dope shit he has produced over the years. But a few of you are acting like he's the best or one of the best producers today, which is coming across like blind ignorance considering he's barely produced anything, and what he has produced isn't his best work by any means.
As far as mo on the 2 Raekwon tracks in 09, they were decent but they were really the weakest beats on that album.
2010 wasn't a consistent year for Dre, but overall i still think he's the best producer, nothing to do with ignorance, just opinion.
Explain how he is the best producer in 2010. He didn't produce an album, hell he didn't even produce his own single. From my count around 5 songs came out in 2010 with the Dre name attached. I hope by "overall" you mean career-wise and not what I mean by best producer today, otherwise that's just blatant stannery.
yeah i'm looking at all his work, not just 2010. like i said, 2010 wasn't a good year for Dre (imo)
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he fell off after 1992.........
how his last album was the chronic ;D (chronic 2001 *echo*)
hahaha I was thinking about that line the whole time while reading this thread so far :D
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who cares about beats....I like albums.....
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who cares about beats....I like albums.....
You basically just said "who cares about music". SMDH.
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If i had the choice you could have a rap album with no rap and only beats........or no beats and only rap.......it would be easy to choose
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I'd choose beats over lyrics every time....unless it was Homeboy Sandman. If I wanted accapella I'd just listen to spoken word recordings. With hip hop its all about the way a rapper flows over the beat.