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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TRG on January 10, 2011, 09:04:45 PM
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Lex Luger
http://hulkshare.com/gqg9ixnwp2h4
http://www.mediafire.com/?ii57klbz1f53agd
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props, this H.A.M. ain't bad, 8) on the production tip!
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I dig it. 8)
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Shit is kinda cool, Jay absolutely murks it! Watch The Throne is set to be one of the top albums of 2011
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First spin: great song.
Third spin: old song.
My conclusion: Don't listen to this anymore till you have the hard copy of "Watch The Throne" in your changer.
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Shit is kinda cool, Jay absolutely murks it! Watch The Throne is set to be one of the top albums of 2011
I'm hyped for it. But I don't know about best album.
Their production & focus is going to be the deciding factor. Like this song doesn't really have focus, they are just rapping about whatever. Fifteen songs like this would still be good to bump, but it would lack replay value after a couple of spins.
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Shit is kinda cool, Jay absolutely murks it! Watch The Throne is set to be one of the top albums of 2011
I'm hyped for it. But I don't know about best album.
Their production & focus is going to be the deciding factor. Like this song doesn't really have focus, they are just rapping about whatever. Fifteen songs like this would still be good to bump, but it would lack replay value after a couple of spins.
I can't listen to entire Jay-Z albums, so when he put out those albums with R. Kelly I actually purchased his music. Back then I really liked BOBW, but UB not so much.
This album be something in between hit or miss. Jay-Z is a boring rapper (although he has some great songs), so about half of each song will be boring. It's up to Kanye West to save the other half with his rapping and it's up to the producer(s) to make it sound decent.
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^Yeah, basically agree with that.
Although Jay did come pretty good on this. Kanye was the "bleh" to me here.
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Lex Luger: “In 2011, I don’t want to speak too much on it but Jay-Z and Kanye West working on an album and he’s really messing with me, so I got Kanye West. I’ve been working more with Fabolous. I’ve been working with everybody, a lot of people been saying that ‘Lex Luger only got that Waka sound’ so I’m trying to take it somewhere else because I do have another sound, and that’s where I want to take it for 2011.”
still the same boring beat I have heard in 10 other songs
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Best beat of 2011. Hands down. Incredible :o 8)
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not bad but it's not touching That's My Bitch or The Joy (and I'm having doubts the latter is going to end up on the album)
I've only heard a couple of his Ross produced music and this joint is not really different.
And I'm not a massive Madlib fan, but give me the joints Kanye promised he and Jay did with him for the album
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this is wack. beat is garbage,wtf is with those drums. i dont wonna hear kanye rapin,make some ebat man.
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what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.
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I like it. I actually find the beat, especially the last part, quite epic.
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this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit...
this..
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not bad but it's not touching That's My Bitch or The Joy (and I'm having doubts the latter is going to end up on the album)
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what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.
Totally agree. They're trying too hard.
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I dig it. 8)
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I like it. I actually find the beat, especially the last part, quite epic.
This
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Not a bad song...
(http://zebule.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Kanye-West-Jay-Z-H.A.M.-single-cover.jpg)
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what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.
Totally agree. They're trying too hard.
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Holy shit, this is awful.
Im a massive Kanye fan but what the fuck is his verse about. The beat is terrible. Just sounds like its been thrown together using some futuristic shit and some opera shit. But it doesnt go very well at all.
Jesus this is so bad. It sounds like a bad mixtape track.
Awful.
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what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.
Totally agree. They're trying too hard.
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this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit...
this..
yep.
My initial though on first listen...especially when the chorus kicks in, was that the operatic hook sample doesn't even fit with the beat. The whole backing music in the track throughout is disjointed and, to be honest, an absolute mess.
Kanye's verse is horrendous aswell. It sounds like the slurring of a lazy, drunk child. Nonsense. Jay-Z's verse is decent but its not enough to save the song, for me.
Overall its a 4 out of 10 song AT BEST. A thumbs down.
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Reminds me of "General Patton", which is a good thing cuz that song is hard! So is this. Thumbs up from me 8)
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So, I'm listening to the beat and the first verse with Kanye comes on. It's aight. I'm not really impressed but then the chorus comes in and the beat explodes. That's when I'm feeling it. Ye's verse is over and Jay does what he does best which is consistently fresh hip-hop. Honestly, Jay should've stole the track for himself cause he wrecks it.
The production is fresh due to it's build into orchestration.
Basically, the continuation of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. It's ill. Hip-Hop!
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ye adopted a southern flow. it's not great but it wasn't as bad as y'all is making out to be. plus, the song is about going ham. What's hard to understand about that?
Y'all ain't pick up the shots Jay throwing out? Let me break it down:
Reality check on Baby & Lil Wayne,
Really you got baby money
Keep it real with niggas, niggas ain't got my lady money
A possible fuck you @ 50,
Bow down, brother pay homage
Don't spill hate all on my garments
Commes des Garçon, fuck your fresh
Head shots, nigga, fuck your vests
Fuck the pig, no pork on my fork
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i dont wonna hear kanye rapin
Neither do I, and I don't want to hear him rapping any more either..
When Jay used that "Huh"-gimmick, it sounded semi-retarded, so he apparently stopped using it.
Now Kanye is saying "Huuuuuuuuuuh?" in every other line, extremely annoying.. and his bitching voice adds to it. Stick to producing, Kanye!
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this track coulda been executed better than this. they coulda got a better producer. the beat is so repetitive. lex luger is gonna be another fly by night if he keeps this up.
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Lmao @ the opera singing. That shit was corny and contrived / forced. Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...
However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising. His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time. This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years. And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag. Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight.
Kanye was boring on this, and I disagree, he didn't go ham on this. More like BAM - Boring as a motherfucker.
And finally, I would like to point out a couple things off of my 1 minute analysis of the cover for the single:
(http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20110106-HAM.jpg)
In the bottom corners and the top middle are upside down stars, and inset a bit from the bottom corner stars are 2 more upside down stars wthin circles. Those are all pentagrams:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Pentagram.png)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W8BxmcUmLgc/SwQqKhCPAII/AAAAAAAACZ0/KCnzHxnd4w4/s1600/pentagram+relentless.jpg)
Just so you know what your drenching your subconscious in.
Also, after looking more, there are several more inverted stars aka pentagrams. I'm sure there's lots more symbolism, I'll see if I find anything else. Peace.
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^The wings on the bottom star.
THROW IT UP!
(http://perfectionistgal.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/illuminati-jayz2.jpg)
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^^Yeah and those two branches next to the wings are oak leaves / olive leaves. I'd suggest yall look up the history of that symbol.
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/596149/2/istockphoto_596149-olive-branch-wreath.jpg)
(http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/aaa-ac/cia-2520oak-25201.jpg)
(http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/aaa-tz/zions-2520oak-2520copy.jpg)
(http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/aaa-ac/cia-2520oak-25202.jpg)
(http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/aaa-np/nazi-2520oak-252010-2520copy.jpg)
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I love this stuff lmao.
EDIT: Does the opera singing at the three minute mark have any significance?
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honestly, all the cover art significance you point out, i dont give rappers that much credit for being that witty;
the beatles and the whole paul is dead shit, people still talked about that, this, motherfuckers will forget about in a week.
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I love this stuff lmao.
EDIT: Does the opera singing at the three minute mark have any significance?
Absolutely. It signifies that the producer sucks.
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Production is messed up. Somebody forgot to mix it at some point. You can't really hear the sounds going on when the ''opera'' part kicks in. And I got good headphones
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Jrome you are reaching.
Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?
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honestly, all the cover art significance you point out, i dont give rappers that much credit for being that witty;
the beatles and the whole paul is dead shit, people still talked about that, this, motherfuckers will forget about in a week.
Here's the deal. Entertainers whether it be actors, musicians, etc are merely puppets. They aren't the ones choosing what they wear, what they say, what their videos look like, album covers, etc. Many of them are not even remotely aware of the symbolism they use. But I promise you, Jiggaman knows all about it, and so does Kanye. But they are higher up in the entertainment world, especially Jay. I mean he hangs out with Bill Gates who happily and openly admits that he supports eugenics. The mainstream entertainment industry is ran by just a few people at the top who are absolutely pushing an agenda.
As for the Beatles...who I am a huge fan of, were a total product of the Tavistock Institute. Research that. So were the Rolling Stones and endless other acts old and new. I'm on my phone or I'd post pics, which I'm sure you have seen...flashing occult hand signs, draped in dead babies. Aleister Crowley is on the Sgt Peppers album. Research him and what John Lennon said about him. John was breaking away from them and openly fighting them and thats why the CIA had him whacked. I could post much more but I don't have time. Peace.
The Beatles definitely foisted occult symboli
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Jrome you are reaching.
Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?
If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.
99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.
And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.
The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
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jrome, as long as you keep this shit to yourself. if you feel the need to start change please see a doctor
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Lmao @ the opera singing. That shit was corny and contrived / forced. Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...
However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising. His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time. This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years. And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag. Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight
I suggest you check Shiny Suit Theory with Jay Electronica.To me, that's Jay's best verse since Black Album, not that I've followed everything he drops but I'm sure he hasn't dropped something that stellar in a minute
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Jrome you are reaching.
Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?
If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.
99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.
And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.
The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
Exactly, they do anything for fame.
The alleged illuminati are people who are completely invisible, why the fuck would they associate themselves with known attention whores?
The star is everywhere because it's a very basic shape.
Little children often draw stars, are they affiliated with the illuminati?
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After bumping this for a little bit, me thinks it should've been a j. cole and jay-z track instead of a knaye one
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Jrome you are reaching.
Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?
If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.
99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.
And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.
The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
Exactly, they do anything for fame.
The alleged illuminati are people who are completely invisible, why the fuck would they associate themselves with known attention whores?
The star is everywhere because it's a very basic shape.
Little children often draw stars, are they affiliated with the illuminati?
Illuminati is kind of a misnomer...think of it more as a company. Further, as I've said, entertainers are merely puppets. The top of the pyramid isn't talking to Jay Z, they've got prolly 20 levels of people below them that handle this aspect. They dictate the overall agenda and it is carried out. Old ass jews like David Rockefeller or Evelyn de Rothschild aren't keeping their ear to the streets for bangin beats lol. It's all about social engineering.
Stars are one thing, pentagrams are another.
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Lmao @ the opera singing. That shit was corny and contrived / forced. Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...
However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising. His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time. This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years. And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag. Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight
I suggest you check Shiny Suit Theory with Jay Electronica.To me, that's Jay's best verse since Black Album, not that I've followed everything he drops but I'm sure he hasn't dropped something that stellar in a minute
Will do, thanks
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"I'm about to go ham"
What? Fuck off. Dumb shit.
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Shit is arrrrrite. I expect something better from Kanye and Jay-Z tho. Something more classic, this shit is aiiiiiiiiite.