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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Black Excellence on January 11, 2011, 06:50:38 PM
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that's the word y'all. i think it could be a good look for nas.
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Of course it's a good look. Any rapper getting beats from Yeezy is a GOOD look
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Of course it's a good look. Any rapper getting beats from Yeezy is a GOOD look
not necessarily.
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Of course it's a good look. Any rapper getting beats from Yeezy is a GOOD look
not necessarily.
Lemme guess... A guest spot on a T.I. song is a good look, eh?
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Of course it's a good look. Any rapper getting beats from Yeezy is a GOOD look
not necessarily.
Lemme guess... A guest spot on a T.I. song is a good look, eh?
depends....
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Where's this rumor from?
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Where's this rumor from?
allhiphop.com
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I wish Nas would go Indie. Hope this isn't true.
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I wish Nas would go Indie.
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If he ain't gonna go indie, G.O.O.D. Music is the best possible move. Would be awesome
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If he ain't gonna go indie, G.O.O.D. Music is the best possible move. Would be awesome
Can't be worse than Def Jam, but those fuckers will censor him just as much.
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GOOD Music would be good for Nas. He's an establish artist with a fan base that will show support (see Hip-Hop Is Dead & Nigger sales).
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If he ain't gonna go indie, G.O.O.D. Music is the best possible move. Would be awesome
Can't be worse than Def Jam, but those fuckers will censor him just as much.
I don't buy that. Kanye seems to let his artists do as they please.
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If he ain't gonna go indie, G.O.O.D. Music is the best possible move. Would be awesome
Can't be worse than Def Jam, but those fuckers will censor him just as much.
I don't buy that. Kanye seems to let his artists do as they please.
lol that's because none of his artists even remotely speak on the things that Nas does...and trust me, Kanye isn't calling shots like that anyway.
You know there are several parts on untitled that are censored right? LA Reid fought for him initially, but then got backed down by the powers that be.
you don't understand the hierarchy and ownership of majors, and who truly runs shit.
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lol that's because none of his artists even remotely speak on the things that Nas does...and trust me, Kanye isn't calling shots like that anyway.
You know there are several parts on untitled that are censored right? LA Reid fought for him initially, but then got backed down by the powers that be.
you don't understand the hierarchy and ownership of majors, and who truly runs shit.
True none of his artists speak on the stuff Nas does.
Yes I know, I bought that album. Yes I do understand, I go through it every day. But I don't feel any pity.
If Nas wants to sign with GOOD Music and remain major, that's a risk he takes (being censored). If he truly wants to make music the way he wants too, go indie. You can't have it both ways.
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Aren't Mos and Pusha already signed with no sign of a release date? It always seems to happen when an artist is doing well, they sign everyone and nothing comes out
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Pusha has a mixtape coming pretty soon and Mos is on tour in Australia with Pharoahe Monch. They just had to cancel Brisbane due to those crazy floods! I see what you're sayin though man. But In line with this thread: If Kanye produced a Nas album it may possibly be the best thing outside of Illmatic to drop from him (If Kanye went nuts on the beats and kept his ego in check when Nas kills them!)
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Pusha has a mixtape coming pretty soon and Mos is on tour in Australia with Pharoahe Monch. They just had to cancel Brisbane due to those crazy floods! I see what you're sayin though man. But In line with this thread: If Kanye produced a Nas album it may possibly be the best thing outside of Illmatic to drop from him (If Kanye went nuts on the beats and kept his ego in check when Nas kills them!)
Damn I skipped that Mos show on Sunday cos I was broke from New Years, didn't know Pharoah was there!!! Yeah I'm looking forward to all these projects, just hope they come to fruition
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sounds good, Nas is horrible at pickin' beats. Perhaps, Nas and Mos collabo?
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now i can roll with that...
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If he ain't gonna go indie, G.O.O.D. Music is the best possible move. Would be awesome
Can't be worse than Def Jam, but those fuckers will censor him just as much.
I don't buy that. Kanye seems to let his artists do as they please.
You know there are several parts on untitled that are censored right?
like what?
(not challenging you, i genuinely don't know)
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For Nas, I assume, here's several changes made to the album:
A) Nigger to Untitled
B) Song selection severely limited - Be A Nigger, Too was left off and several other tracks
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...But In line with this thread: If Kanye produced a Nas album it may possibly be the best thing outside of Illmatic to drop from him (If Kanye went nuts on the beats and kept his ego in check when Nas kills them!)
Indeed, an all Kanye produced Nas album would be, in all likleyhood, epic.
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...But In line with this thread: If Kanye produced a Nas album it may possibly be the best thing outside of Illmatic to drop from him (If Kanye went nuts on the beats and kept his ego in check when Nas kills them!)
Indeed, an all Kanye produced Nas album would be, in all likleyhood, epic.
If Nas is given any beats in the same mold as MBDTF (Boring beats), Nas would not go well over them and I would criticize his beat selection again. I would rather he went indie and got beats from the greats instead.
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
Would be a bad move.
Nas is better than simply being another emcee in an artists' roster. Nas is better than Kanye, nevermind Kanye's weed carrier.
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Nas is dope but he sometimes pisses me off with his preachy pseudo-informed persona.
At the same time, I thought Untitled was dope, kind of like his "What's Going On?" and I think he can keep dropping heat.
I wonder if he'll do the same thing Marvin Gaye did and go in the complete opposite direction away from political to something else.
"What's Going On?" was from 1971 and in 1976 he dropped "I Want You" which wasn't political at all in comparison to "What's Going On?" which was all political.
Nas would be better off IMO to do that and make his next album just lyrical rap that's not too politics-infused, because to me Untitled was a snapshot of 2008. Anytime I want to remember it I play it.
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
I mentioned John Legend as the exception.
I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him.
Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.
So thats that covered then...
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
I mentioned John Legend as the exception.
I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him.
Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.
So thats that covered then...
So explain how Kanye has prevented anyone from "getting their shine." He certainly hasn't gotten in anyone's way.
Common is a veteran of the rap game, and Kanye was a relative newcomer when he signed him. I don't see how you expected Ye to improve his music. He gave him an outlet and a larger audience. You have unrealistic expectations if you expected more. After all, how much better can Common get? He's already a legend. Same with Nas, I wouldn't expect Ye would be able to do anything for him besides give him great production and some extra hype.
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
I mentioned John Legend as the exception.
I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him.
Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.
So thats that covered then...
So explain how Kanye has prevented anyone from "getting their shine." He certainly hasn't gotten in anyone's way.
Common is a veteran of the rap game, and Kanye was a relative newcomer when he signed him. I don't see how you expected Ye to improve his music. He gave him an outlet and a larger audience. You have unrealistic expectations if you expected more. After all, how much better can Common get? He's already a legend. Same with Nas, I wouldn't expect Ye would be able to do anything for him besides give him great production and some extra hype.
Its not him stopping them getting their shine per se, more a case of him using their careers to promote himself even more. But I won't mention the careers of artists like GLC & Consequence who he hasn't pushed or promoted very well in the entire time they were signed to GOOD Music. Or Mr Hudson, whose career Kanye has entirely changed just for an outlet for his alternative sound. Mr Hudson fronted an indie band before Kanye got hold of him, then he signed him and made Mr Hudson into an artist that isn't a genuine reflection on what he actually wants to be. That much is true.
With regards to Nas, I don't really see how this would HELP his career. It maybe won't hinder it too much (as long as Kanye doesn't stick his oar into every inch of Nas' albums like he has done with other artists) either, but still...
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Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
I mentioned John Legend as the exception.
I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him.
Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.
So thats that covered then...
So explain how Kanye has prevented anyone from "getting their shine." He certainly hasn't gotten in anyone's way.
Common is a veteran of the rap game, and Kanye was a relative newcomer when he signed him. I don't see how you expected Ye to improve his music. He gave him an outlet and a larger audience. You have unrealistic expectations if you expected more. After all, how much better can Common get? He's already a legend. Same with Nas, I wouldn't expect Ye would be able to do anything for him besides give him great production and some extra hype.
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fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & work with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
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fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & wok with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
You mean like L.E.S., Trackmasters, and Salaam Remi shit?
I don't think L.E.S. does beats anymore, haven't heard the trackmasters in years... - he'll always prolly feature a Remi cut on his albums... Does Large Pro still have the heat he used to do back in the day?
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fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & work with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
You mean like L.E.S., Trackmasters, and Salaam Remi shit?
I don't think L.E.S. does beats anymore, haven't heard the trackmasters in years... - he'll always prolly feature a Remi cut on his albums... Does Large Pro still have the heat he used to do back in the day?
yea that's exactly what i mean also dj premier...
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fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & wok with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
You mean like L.E.S., Trackmasters, and Salaam Remi shit?
I don't think L.E.S. does beats anymore, haven't heard the trackmasters in years... - he'll always prolly feature a Remi cut on his albums... Does Large Pro still have the heat he used to do back in the day?
LES was on Cormega's last album in 2009 so he hasn't completely gone away. And Large Pro is still well capable of making a great beat but just like the golden genration producers he doesn't make make beats as much as he used to. His beat on Joell Ortiz's album was nice.
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would be sweet to hear a Nas ft Common track or Nas ft Mos Def...damn lol, or better yet a song with all 3 over a hot ass kanye/no id produced track!!!