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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TRG on January 16, 2011, 03:27:57 AM
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Alex Da Kid is talking about Skylar Grey when he mentions she's features on "Dre's first official single, i need a doctor with Eminem"...
http://www.youtube.com/v/lKFzgrnut_M
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Lord why? ::)
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Lord why? ::)
feelin you... but lets lean back and see what happends...
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Not surprising if true. Just like what happened for 2001. They're following the same formula. The 1st single off that album was with Snoop (Still DRE) and it bombed just like Kush is doing now. They then released Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album but it had Eminem so it did well.
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Hope not. There's obviously been a lot of speculation about Detox through the years but it is beginning to look more like fact that the album is going to be horrible. What the fuck is Dre doing?
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
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Hope not. There's obviously been a lot of speculation about Detox through the years but it is beginning to look more like fact that the album is going to be horrible. What the fuck is Dre doing?
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Not surprising if true. Just like what happened for 2001. They're following the same formula. The 1st single off that album was with Snoop (Still DRE) and it bombed just like Kush is doing now. They then released Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album but it had Eminem so it did well.
Forgot About Dre was a dope track, much better than I Need A Doctor IMO, but they are using the same formula
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This can't be happening. Terrible terrible news if true.
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
A matter of taste. I've always skipped that track when listening to that album.
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Let's hope the final version of "I Need a Doctor" is much better than the leak...but even if that's the case I can't really picture it being good.
It might be time to move on and forget about Dre.
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check out that dawaun parker interview, it doesn't look like Detox is coming anytime soon
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Forgot About Dre was average , the same level as kush .. i think kush is a better track
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Hope not. There's obviously been a lot of speculation about Detox through the years but it is beginning to look more like fact that the album is going to be horrible. What the fuck is Dre doing?
I've seen an incredible amount of hate regarding this track and the final version hasn't even come out. From all of the songs that have been leaked so far, this one by far has the best chance of succeeding on the radio. Is anyone even doubting Eminem at this point, or that Alex da Kid is a hot producer at the moment? This song has a hot hook, a couple of hot verses from Eminem and a beat that has the potential to be hot and at a minimum extremely radio friendly.
All of us that were looking for a completely chronic type record are not going to get it. It is simple, that music doesn't sell anymore.
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Hope not. There's obviously been a lot of speculation about Detox through the years but it is beginning to look more like fact that the album is going to be horrible. What the fuck is Dre doing?
All of us that were looking for a completely chronic type record are not going to get it. It is simple, that music doesn't sell anymore.
and?
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Lol I wouldn't be surprised considering the way Love the Way You Lie performed. They're trying a song in the same vein for detox. Unfortunate but I guess at least they didn't try to make another Not Afraid :-X
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I don't know what to say.
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
what are you talking about? have you never listened to Dre before??
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
what are you talking about? have you never listened to Dre before??
I dont think anything on 2001 or The Chronic were aimed at the radio. Maybe aimed at a more mainstream rap audience, but not for kids and little girls (as was most of Recovery, which this song is clearly trying to replicate.)
And Dre not producing his own album (when your considered one of the best in the game) is another huge loss. Really doesn't make sense to me, this whole INAD story.
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
what are you talking about? have you never listened to Dre before??
I dont think anything on 2001 or The Chronic were aimed at the radio. Maybe aimed at a more mainstream rap audience, but not for kids and little girls (as was most of Relapse, which this song is clearly trying to replicate.)
Relapse was definitely not aimed at kids and little girls! but songs like Next Episode were definitely aimed at the radio, that still gets played in clubs to this day
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
what are you talking about? have you never listened to Dre before??
I dont think anything on 2001 or The Chronic were aimed at the radio. Maybe aimed at a more mainstream rap audience, but not for kids and little girls (as was most of Relapse, which this song is clearly trying to replicate.)
Relapse was definitely not aimed at kids and little girls! but songs like Next Episode were definitely aimed at the radio, that still gets played in clubs to this day
IMO Radio/Clubs is fine, and Dre has been like that for a while, but Recovery (which is what I meant to say when I said Relapse) was something completely different. A blatant attempt at mainstream aimed at the kids who will (and did) buy his shit. It's smart, but Dre is NOT Em.
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Fuck that.
Dre, since when the fuck did you go for a radio single?! All these people saying "well it will secure radio play" and all that bullshit, but this is the motherfuckin DOCTOR. Gotta say, I know we haven't even heard the finished version, but this is some bullshit.
what are you talking about? have you never listened to Dre before??
I dont think anything on 2001 or The Chronic were aimed at the radio. Maybe aimed at a more mainstream rap audience, but not for kids and little girls (as was most of Relapse, which this song is clearly trying to replicate.)
Relapse was definitely not aimed at kids and little girls! but songs like Next Episode were definitely aimed at the radio, that still gets played in clubs to this day
IMO Radio/Clubs is fine, and Dre has been like that for a while, but Recovery (which is what I meant to say when I said Relapse) was something completely different. A blatant attempt at mainstream aimed at the kids who will (and did) buy his shit. It's smart, but Dre is NOT Em.
fair point
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I just don't want to beleive this.
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I dont think its aimed at little kids since the people who will get the most out of the lyrics are people who know about the history between Dre and Em.
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The main reason for the popularity of Dr. Dre's previously released album was the production handled by dre himself, so why would he let other producers handle all of the production?
If it was a compilation album where dre attaches his name to certain producers to help further their careers it would be understandable, but that isn't how detox has been marketed over the last decade.
However, this does end all discussion about whether dre is pop or not.
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The main reason for the popularity of Dr. Dre's previously released album was the production handled by dre himself, so why would he let other producers handle all of the production?
If it was a compilation album where dre attaches his name to certain producers to help further their careers it would be understandable, but that isn't how detox has been marketed over the last decade.
However, this does end all discussion about whether dre is pop or not.
Dre has never produced alone.. so nothin really changed.. he still adds his touch to it when it has his name on it, so i wouldnt complain
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I dont think its aimed at little kids since the people who will get the most out of the lyrics are people who know about the history between Dre and Em.
kids don't care about the lyrics.
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Why is this a Dre single when Eminem raps for most of the song? Unless they changed it, Dre only has one verse
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I dont think its aimed at little kids since the people who will get the most out of the lyrics are people who know about the history between Dre and Em.
kids don't care about the lyrics.
Then they should love any of Dre's music since he's all about the beats
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
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check out that dawaun parker interview, it doesn't look like Detox is coming anytime soon
wheres it at?
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check out that dawaun parker interview, it doesn't look like Detox is coming anytime soon
wheres it at?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=262154.0
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I actually LOVE the record so I'm not upset. Though my only real complaint is both of the released Detox songs AREN'T produced by Dr. Dre.
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I dont think its aimed at little kids since the people who will get the most out of the lyrics are people who know about the history between Dre and Em.
That's the scary part. I think Dr. Dre might actually find this a good song. :-X
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So, Dre isn't even producing on his own album, and he gets his lyrics ghostwritten.
I've waited 10 years for some alex da fag to produce a legends first single?
dre lost
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
I agree with you and the others who've said we should at least wait to hear what it sounds like in CDQ. Having only heard the poor quality, leaked version I have to say so far I'm not a fan. Although I doubt I'll ever love this song, if I get a chance to at least hear it the way it was intended to be heard, I may at least like it more than I do now.
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Dre be gettin' trendy with these bubblegum producers ... Get some balls , u have nothing to lose, Dre ! Your rich and legendary no matter what , be confident in your own work. He is very insecure about flopping
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It's probably Jimmy Iovine who wants to put this out as the first single. When is the final version of the song comin' out anyway? At least i hope we get to hear another verse from Dre instead of two verses from Eminem and only one from Dr. Dre. I hope the whole album won't be soundin like this track.
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
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So, Dre isn't even producing on his own album, and he gets his lyrics ghostwritten.
I've waited 10 years for some alex da fag to produce a legends first single?
That's how the whole album is going to be. I'm surprised people are expecting anything else.
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From a conceptual standpoint, I understand this (you know how the song goes, Eminem is trying to get Dre to do his thang again and at the end Dre's last verse signifies that, it's basically a rebirth.) Only issue with this is that Dre didn't produce it.
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
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So, Dre isn't even producing on his own album, and he gets his lyrics ghostwritten.
I've waited 10 years for some alex da fag to produce a legends first single?
dre lost
there's nothing new about that, Dre has always had a massive team of collaborators making music for him, this is historical fact. even stretching as far back to his N.W.A. dayz, Dre uses all these different dudes talents to make them into one cohesive unit that best represents his musical vision, The Chronic & 2001 are great representations of that. so on & so forth... also he has never written a single line/rap for himself, this track is going to be super weak if it's in fact for Detox, :puke: even a final version mixed/mastered/blessed by GOD himself, it's still pretty corny, forced (emotionally) & wack. :grumpy:
on the other hand it's a FANTASTIC & BRILLIANT Em track... ::)
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you guys can never stop bitching. Dre always makes and releases what he wants to hear, not the fans. And then most of the time when ppl say its wack and wtf is dre doing, it turns out to be something classic (eminem for example).
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there's nothing new about that, Dre has always had a massive team of collaborators making music for him, this is historical fact. even stretching as far back to his N.W.A. dayz, Dre uses all these different dudes talents to make them into one cohesive unit that best represents his musical vision, The Chronic & 2001 are great representations of that. so on & so forth... also he has never written a single line/rap for himself
Yes, he actually has. Even Snoop Dogg and MC Ren has confirmed that.
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
I'm sure most people here know that, the difference between The Message and these Detox tracks is that The Message was good. It was a track that suited Dre. It was also the only track on the album that wasn't produced by Dre and Mel Man, apparently Detox has more than this already.
There's also a difference between Dre producing WITH people and the probable situation here where Dre's picking beats he likes from tapes people are sending him. Where's the creativity in that, where's the connection between Kush* and I Need A Doctor which provides a cohesive sound for the album?
*I know Khalil works inhouse
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
1 out of 17 tracks, it's already twice as much for detox
And don't act like there is no difference between Lord finesse & Alex da kid.
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The main reason for the popularity of Dr. Dre's previously released album was the production handled by dre himself, so why would he let other producers handle all of the production?
If it was a compilation album where dre attaches his name to certain producers to help further their careers it would be understandable, but that isn't how detox has been marketed over the last decade.
However, this does end all discussion about whether dre is pop or not.
Dre has never produced alone.. so nothin really changed.. he still adds his touch to it when it has his name on it, so i wouldnt complain
well Kush wasn't even produced by Dre, so yes something has changed.
Hope not. There's obviously been a lot of speculation about Detox through the years but it is beginning to look more like fact that the album is going to be horrible. What the fuck is Dre doing?
I've seen an incredible amount of hate regarding this track and the final version hasn't even come out. From all of the songs that have been leaked so far, this one by far has the best chance of succeeding on the radio. Is anyone even doubting Eminem at this point, or that Alex da Kid is a hot producer at the moment? This song has a hot hook, a couple of hot verses from Eminem and a beat that has the potential to be hot and at a minimum extremely radio friendly.
All of us that were looking for a completely chronic type record are not going to get it. It is simple, that music doesn't sell anymore.
well, are you getting royalties from Detox? don't think so.
Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
1 out of 17 tracks, it's already twice as much for detox
And don't act like there is no difference between Lord finesse & Alex da kid.
+ it was a nice song with a dope beat ( the sound fits 2001)
there's nothing new about that, Dre has always had a massive team of collaborators making music for him, this is historical fact. even stretching as far back to his N.W.A. dayz, Dre uses all these different dudes talents to make them into one cohesive unit that best represents his musical vision, The Chronic & 2001 are great representations of that. so on & so forth... also he has never written a single line/rap for himself
Yes, he actually has. Even Snoop Dogg and MC Ren has confirmed that.
true. although he admitted that he's not a lyricist.
Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
cham, just accept the fact that some don't/won't like the song.
take 50's I get it in for example: i remember some were saying: wait for the final version. i agree that the final version was better than the first leak, but it was still not good enough
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maybe the mastered version will sound better :-\
the hook still fits an Em track better and Dre sounds awkward on this
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DRE, Snoop, and Game will never please most of you on here even if the song is good, because your asses are stuck in the 90s and early 2000s. With that said this song is not bad.
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I bet the finished version of I Need a Doctor sounds very different than the version everyone on here is complaining about.
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Not surprising if true. Just like what happened for 2001. They're following the same formula. The 1st single off that album was with Snoop (Still DRE) and it bombed just like Kush is doing now. They then released Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album but it had Eminem so it did well.
Forgot about dre was not the worst song at all I thought Em got off on that shit and people were going nuts over that track when it hit radio! I think every song on Cronic 2001 was the shit! Thats an album you can bump back to back just put the cd on play from begining and let it play all the way to the end! Will the new album be just as dope I don't know but people are still going to bump it no matter what casue its DRE!!
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lol motherfuckers are heartbroken
ppl wont settle for less then nothing but a g thang part 356
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I bet the finished version of I Need a Doctor sounds very different than the version everyone on here is complaining about.
I bet not. Sounded fairly finished to me
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
I'm sure most people here know that, the difference between The Message and these Detox tracks is that The Message was good. It was a track that suited Dre. It was also the only track on the album that wasn't produced by Dre and Mel Man, apparently Detox has more than this already.
There's also a difference between Dre producing WITH people and the probable situation here where Dre's picking beats he likes from tapes people are sending him. Where's the creativity in that, where's the connection between Kush* and I Need A Doctor which provides a cohesive sound for the album?
*I know Khalil works inhouse
Yeah Kush & I Need A Doctor sound like 2 different tracks on 2 different albums by 2 different artists..
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
ALSO, do ANY of you realize that Lord Finnese produced 1 track on 2001? (The Message)
I'm sure most people here know that, the difference between The Message and these Detox tracks is that The Message was good. It was a track that suited Dre. It was also the only track on the album that wasn't produced by Dre and Mel Man, apparently Detox has more than this already.
There's also a difference between Dre producing WITH people and the probable situation here where Dre's picking beats he likes from tapes people are sending him. Where's the creativity in that, where's the connection between Kush* and I Need A Doctor which provides a cohesive sound for the album?
*I know Khalil works inhouse
Yeah Kush & I Need A Doctor sound like 2 different tracks on 2 different albums by 2 different artists..
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They have being shit in common.
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I bet the finished version of I Need a Doctor sounds very different than the version everyone on here is complaining about.
I bet not. Sounded fairly finished to me
I can't imagine him releasing that version of the song as a single, two months after it has leaked.
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there's nothing new about that, Dre has always had a massive team of collaborators making music for him, this is historical fact. even stretching as far back to his N.W.A. dayz, Dre uses all these different dudes talents to make them into one cohesive unit that best represents his musical vision, The Chronic & 2001 are great representations of that. so on & so forth... also he has never written a single line/rap for himself
Yes, he actually has. Even Snoop Dogg and MC Ren has confirmed that.
do you know what song(s) he's written for?
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Somebody made a cool point that this would be the Intro to the album. I mean, that's the only place I see it going on the album.
& to be completely honest with you all, I'm like 97% sure that Dr. Dre CANNOT make a song that will satisfy any of you. Because all you people want is just duplicates of old Dre songs & if that was the case, you would just point out that he's "remaking" old classics.
Let's hear the CDQ, maybe it sounds much better; because I know the premise of the song isn't bad at all. Y'all just bitching.
cham, just accept the fact that some don't/won't like the song.
take 50's I get it in for example: i remember some were saying: wait for the final version. i agree that the final version was better than the first leak, but it was still not good enough
I've accepted the fact that most won't like the album lol.
I've said it before, if 2001 never came out & he dropped it in two months some people wouldn't even like that lol.
It's all in the sub-conscious.
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motherfuckers are heartbroken
:D It's funny to see people's hearts breaking on the Internet. Fact is Dre is well past his prime. Why are people expecting Detox to be the best album of Dre's career? His prime was Elif4Zaggin, Chronic, and Doggystyle -- that run, that era. It's 2011 now, something like 16 years later. There's no way Dre is going to come back better than ever at this point in his career. It's like asking Michael Jordan on the Wizards to score 37 points a game again like he did in the late 1980s. It just doesn't work like that. Artists are like athletes -- you rise and fall. It's a bell-shaped curve. If Detox is a decent/ok album with technical mastery, I'll be fine with it (assuming it's even a real album, which I'm still waiting for him to show and prove, going on 10 years now). But I do not expect in any way, shape or form for Detox to be some kind of amazing artistic accomplishment. Life's progression just doesn't work like that. Compared to Dre's previous masterpieces, it's going to be "ehh." Cham is right in that there's no way for Dre to please all of us, but Cham's not right in the way he means it. It's not because we as fans are stuck in the 90s or whatever. It's because Dre doesn't have the artistic ability anymore to make something that would please all of us fans. In the early 90s he could, but not anymore, because he's well past his prime.
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motherfuckers are heartbroken
:D It's funny to see people's hearts breaking on the Internet. Fact is Dre is well past his prime. Why are people expecting Detox to be the best album of Dre's career? His prime was Elif4Zaggin, Chronic, and Doggystyle -- that run, that era. It's 2011 now, something like 16 years later. There's no way Dre is going to come back better than ever at this point in his career. It's like asking Michael Jordan on the Wizards to score 37 points a game again like he did in the late 1980s. It just doesn't work like that. Artists are like athletes -- you rise and fall. It's a bell-shaped curve. If Detox is a decent/ok album with technical mastery, I'll be fine with it (assuming it's even a real album, which I'm still waiting for him to show and prove, going on 10 years now). But I do not expect in any way, shape or form for Detox to be some kind of amazing artistic accomplishment. Life's progression just doesn't work like that. Compared to Dre's previous masterpieces, it's going to be "ehh." Cham is right in that there's no way for Dre to please all of us, but Cham's not right in the way he means it. It's not because we as fans are stuck in the 90s or whatever. It's because Dre doesn't have the artistic ability anymore to make something that would please all of us fans. In the early 90s he could, but not anymore, because he's well past his prime.
a lot of truth to this, dre is never gonna make that impact with his music again. but at the same time you'd still expect detox to be a better than average album, just based on the 'technical mastery' or whatever. relapse certainly had a very advanced mix, regardless of the corny horrorcore themes. problem with kush and i need a doctor, these tracks barely surpass average and are not muscially interesting or resonating in the least. that's a step down for even post-2000 dre.
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motherfuckers are heartbroken
:D It's funny to see people's hearts breaking on the Internet. Fact is Dre is well past his prime. Why are people expecting Detox to be the best album of Dre's career? His prime was Elif4Zaggin, Chronic, and Doggystyle -- that run, that era. It's 2011 now, something like 16 years later. There's no way Dre is going to come back better than ever at this point in his career. It's like asking Michael Jordan on the Wizards to score 37 points a game again like he did in the late 1980s. It just doesn't work like that. Artists are like athletes -- you rise and fall. It's a bell-shaped curve. If Detox is a decent/ok album with technical mastery, I'll be fine with it (assuming it's even a real album, which I'm still waiting for him to show and prove, going on 10 years now). But I do not expect in any way, shape or form for Detox to be some kind of amazing artistic accomplishment. Life's progression just doesn't work like that. Compared to Dre's previous masterpieces, it's going to be "ehh." Cham is right in that there's no way for Dre to please all of us, but Cham's not right in the way he means it. It's not because we as fans are stuck in the 90s or whatever. It's because Dre doesn't have the artistic ability anymore to make something that would please all of us fans. In the early 90s he could, but not anymore, because he's well past his prime.
a lot of truth to this, dre is never gonna make that impact with his music again. but at the same time you'd still expect detox to be a better than average album, just based on the 'technical mastery' or whatever. relapse certainly had a very advanced mix, regardless of the corny horrorcore themes. problem with kush and i need a doctor, these tracks barely surpass average and are not muscially interesting or resonating in the least. that's a step down for even post-2000 dre.
Really well said.
I expect dopeness.. Nothing more, nothing less.
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motherfuckers are heartbroken
:D It's funny to see people's hearts breaking on the Internet. Fact is Dre is well past his prime. Why are people expecting Detox to be the best album of Dre's career? His prime was Elif4Zaggin, Chronic, and Doggystyle -- that run, that era. It's 2011 now, something like 16 years later. There's no way Dre is going to come back better than ever at this point in his career. It's like asking Michael Jordan on the Wizards to score 37 points a game again like he did in the late 1980s. It just doesn't work like that. Artists are like athletes -- you rise and fall. It's a bell-shaped curve. If Detox is a decent/ok album with technical mastery, I'll be fine with it (assuming it's even a real album, which I'm still waiting for him to show and prove, going on 10 years now). But I do not expect in any way, shape or form for Detox to be some kind of amazing artistic accomplishment. Life's progression just doesn't work like that. Compared to Dre's previous masterpieces, it's going to be "ehh." Cham is right in that there's no way for Dre to please all of us, but Cham's not right in the way he means it. It's not because we as fans are stuck in the 90s or whatever. It's because Dre doesn't have the artistic ability anymore to make something that would please all of us fans. In the early 90s he could, but not anymore, because he's well past his prime.
Dw bro, detox is a myth anyway
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3 pages off a comment Alex Da Kid made?
so this "news" isn't even official ...
that dude makes beats, doubt he knows what is coming out and when.
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3 pages off a comment Alex Da Kid made?
so this "news" isn't even official ...
that dude makes beats, doubt he knows what is coming out and when.
C/S 100000%. Alex Da Kid is a flop who should just fuck off already. As good as the single is and would have been for Dre's comeback, i REALLLY doubt he's going to put out a song that has been leaked for a while now. Doesn't make sense. Cmon' dre pick another song out of that vault
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motherfuckers are heartbroken
:D It's funny to see people's hearts breaking on the Internet. Fact is Dre is well past his prime. Why are people expecting Detox to be the best album of Dre's career? His prime was Elif4Zaggin, Chronic, and Doggystyle -- that run, that era. It's 2011 now, something like 16 years later. There's no way Dre is going to come back better than ever at this point in his career. It's like asking Michael Jordan on the Wizards to score 37 points a game again like he did in the late 1980s. It just doesn't work like that. Artists are like athletes -- you rise and fall. It's a bell-shaped curve. If Detox is a decent/ok album with technical mastery, I'll be fine with it (assuming it's even a real album, which I'm still waiting for him to show and prove, going on 10 years now). But I do not expect in any way, shape or form for Detox to be some kind of amazing artistic accomplishment. Life's progression just doesn't work like that. Compared to Dre's previous masterpieces, it's going to be "ehh." Cham is right in that there's no way for Dre to please all of us, but Cham's not right in the way he means it. It's not because we as fans are stuck in the 90s or whatever. It's because Dre doesn't have the artistic ability anymore to make something that would please all of us fans. In the early 90s he could, but not anymore, because he's well past his prime.
Case closed. Now move on, please.
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I will reserve full judgment for this song considering we've only heard it in basic form, completely unmixed and most likely unfinished. BUT, I don't think I will like it anyway when it drops. It just sounds far too like an Eminem song for my liking and not at all how I imagined any Detox record to sound.
I just hope Dre's other choice of songs for singles are better than this one.
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After all the rappers and producers who've falsely associated themselves with Detox over the years for free publicity, how can you all believe what this guy has to say? We should wait for official confirmation.
As for the track itself, I don't like it for multiple reasons:
1. Dre didn't produce it (I'll still reserve judgement till I hear a mixed CDQ version).
2. Dre only has one verse (that too the last one), while Em has two. It reminds me of how 50 overshadowed Game on his debut single.
3. It sounds like an Eminem song that just happens to feature Dre, unlike Still DRE or Forgot About Dre. We've had enough of hearing about how everyone doubted Em when he was coming up and how Dre saved his life. This track shouldn't be about Em. Even Dre's verse is about Em. Is this even confirmed as a Detox leak and not a Relapse/Recover leftover?
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there's nothing new about that, Dre has always had a massive team of collaborators making music for him, this is historical fact. even stretching as far back to his N.W.A. dayz, Dre uses all these different dudes talents to make them into one cohesive unit that best represents his musical vision, The Chronic & 2001 are great representations of that. so on & so forth... also he has never written a single line/rap for himself
Yes, he actually has. Even Snoop Dogg and MC Ren has confirmed that.
do you know what song(s) he's written for?
MC Ren said that Dr.Dre wrote some of his NWA shit and i know for sure that Dre wrote a line or two of "Deep Cover". Actually i think it was the first two lines of the song, i remember Snoop Dogg sayin' somethin' like that in some old interview. I think Ren spoke about this subject in his interview with The Formula.com
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By the way, this beat isn't that bad. I feel if Dre produced it, not as many would complain.
It's not a "2001", West Coast banger. Which I understand you all, for some odd reason, think you're getting, so I can understand your frustration, I suppose lol.
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By the way, this beat isn't that bad. I feel if Dre produced it, not as many would complain.
It's not a "2001", West Coast banger. Which I understand you all, for some odd reason, think you're getting, so I can understand your frustration, I suppose lol.
I don't know whats worse, the beat or the hook lol
This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
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This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
i'm still 99% sure that this will be an Eminem single.
for the record: i actually like the song, and it has the potential to be a massive hit.
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This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
i'm still 99% sure that this will be an Eminem single.
for the record: i actually like the song, and it has the potential to be a massive hit.
I have no doubt it could be a huge hit, but I think the track is for Detox
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By the way, this beat isn't that bad. I feel if Dre produced it, not as many would complain.
It's not a "2001", West Coast banger. Which I understand you all, for some odd reason, think you're getting, so I can understand your frustration, I suppose lol.
I don't know whats worse, the beat or the hook lol
This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
The hook is awesome. The beat is futuristic. Then give me both in CDQ & those two might be better than the lyrics lol.
Because if everyone is convinced Dre is dropping shit to see the response of it, then that's what he did with this & since everyone is complaining about the beat, Dre likely went into the studio & touched it up.
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Co-sign but I think they're just using this song to make money on I-tunes. Its confirmed to be on i tunes the first week of Feburary. Just a way to make money off the song and build a buzz for the real single and album. You will know when Dre puts out his first real single.
By the way, this beat isn't that bad. I feel if Dre produced it, not as many would complain.
It's not a "2001", West Coast banger. Which I understand you all, for some odd reason, think you're getting, so I can understand your frustration, I suppose lol.
I don't know whats worse, the beat or the hook lol
This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
The hook is awesome. The beat is futuristic. Then give me both in CDQ & those two might be better than the lyrics lol.
Because if everyone is convinced Dre is dropping shit to see the response of it, then that's what he did with this & since everyone is complaining about the beat, Dre likely went into the studio & touched it up.
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remember when Alex Da Kid was talking about this song before it leaked?
saying it will be the biggest track of all time etc etc
talk about an exaggeration ...
it isn't even in the Top 10 Dre or Eminem tracks ...
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remember when Alex Da Kid was talking about this song before it leaked?
saying it will be the biggest track of all time etc etc
talk about an exaggeration ...
it isn't even in the Top 10 Dre or Eminem tracks ...
c/s dude is acting like he's a GOAT producer or someshit just because he's had a few smash singles.
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By the way, this beat isn't that bad. I feel if Dre produced it, not as many would complain.
It's not a "2001", West Coast banger. Which I understand you all, for some odd reason, think you're getting, so I can understand your frustration, I suppose lol.
I don't know whats worse, the beat or the hook lol
This definitely feels like an Em track rather than a Detox one
i'm still recovering from both ;D
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I dont know why some of you keep sayin we want a G-Thang pt 400, Still D.R.E. 7 and shit like that..
We just want quality music.
Yall just lowered your standards because of all the shit music that has come out the last 4 years.
Its OKAY to have standards and yall shouldnt be so afraid of being called haters!
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The single will be released on 25th January
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remember when Alex Da Kid was talking about this song before it leaked?
saying it will be the biggest track of all time etc etc
talk about an exaggeration ...
it isn't even in the Top 10 Dre or Eminem tracks ...
Alex Da Kid is a punk, dude thinks he knows what's happening with Detox, he don't know shit, he manages to produce trash no matter who he works with.
c/s dude is acting like he's a GOAT producer or someshit just because he's had a few smash singles.
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I dont know why some of you keep sayin we want a G-Thang pt 400, Still D.R.E. 7 and shit like that..
We just want quality music.
Yall just lowered your standards because of all the shit music that has come out the last 4 years.
Its OKAY to have standards and yall shouldnt be so afraid of being called haters!
What do you mean? It's been eleven years. Don't act like the "quality music" you want isn't something that Hip Hop has never heard before lol.
If you don't like this song for whatever reason, fine. Very understandable. But don't front like you're going like a song unless the quality is something that would put it in the Top 25 songs of all-time lol.
Agreed, it's "OKAY" to have standards. But it's retarded to have sky high standards.
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Wow, straight trash material. What is going in side dre's mind??
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More wackness just like everything else we have heard from Detox.
And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
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wackkness. i hope dre doesnt release detox. cancel it, 10 years for this?
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
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All I know is this track is wack and it's not even the content this time around but the structure of the composition. I'm not feeling it.
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I dont know why some of you keep sayin we want a G-Thang pt 400, Still D.R.E. 7 and shit like that..
We just want quality music.
Yall just lowered your standards because of all the shit music that has come out the last 4 years.
Its OKAY to have standards and yall shouldnt be so afraid of being called haters!
What do you mean? It's been eleven years. Don't act like the "quality music" you want isn't something that Hip Hop has never heard before lol.
If you don't like this song for whatever reason, fine. Very understandable. But don't front like you're going like a song unless the quality is something that would put it in the Top 25 songs of all-time lol.
Agreed, it's "OKAY" to have standards. But it's retarded to have sky high standards.
No one's asking for top 25 material. They just want good music. That isn't asking too much from the man who gave us The Chronic and 2001.
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Cham , it's not about the generation/time has changed argument , it's about the QUALITY of music , if tomorrow (in 2011) any rapper releases the best album of all time we wouldn't have any pb to say it .... the fact is we are not getting a lot of good hip hop albums for a while ... I think you are taking the generation/time has changed argument as an excuse to justify the lowering (if that word exists lol) of your standards ... why should we expect Detox not to be on The Chronic or 2001 level ? Because it's a different era and time has changed ? LOL
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Cham , it's not about the generation/time has changed argument , it's about the QUALITY of music , if tomorrow (in 2011) any rapper releases the best album of all time we wouldn't have any pb to say it .... the fact is we are not getting a lot of good hip hop albums for a while ... I think you are taking the generation/time has changed argument as an excuse to justify the lowering (if that word exists lol) of your standards ... why should we expect Detox not to be on The Chronic or 2001 level ? Because it's a different era and time has changed ? LOL
There are TONS of good Hip Hip albums out, they just aren't mainstream rappers. It's all underground.
The fact is that music that is underground today is what was selling years ago. Dr. Dre's music ten years ago isn't a trend in 2011. He can't duplicate it & sell it.
Dre's sound sold in 1999, but not in 2011. His album isn't meant for one last "hooorahhh" for his fans to remember him by. His intentions are to appeal to the MASS public & sell a couple of million.
It's like you all forgot it's a business at the end of the day, sorry he isn't satisfying you. But I mean, did you guys listen to Eminem's last album? The same people have a hand in on Detox & they won't settle for Dre to make a sound that 100,000 people will buy & that's it.
Everyone on this forum (& beyond) is in agreement that artists sell out to sell records, but then Dre is about to do it & it's like the concept of selling out is foreign.
& don't all look at me like I'm saying "What are you guys talking about? This is golden!". For an album that's been in the works for eleven years & this is the single for the album, OF COURSE this isn't close to being enough. It should be 15 times better. But it's not going to be & the sooner you all understand that the better.
His style is old & dated to the new generation. An album that was made in 1987 duplicated in 1998 would just sound out of place & wouldn't take off.
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I've mentioned this before....If Dre/anyone plans a promoting a project for 10 plus years people SHOULD have sky high expectations. Especially if you are considered the best or one of the GOAT producers in the game.
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The single will be released on 25th January
Your avy is suspect homo bro
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
i don't think the expectation argument counts for the majority, as they seem to like Kush.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JXH2AU/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511K0okEXPL._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JXH2AU?ie=UTF8&tag=aftermusic00-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B004JXH2AU
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Knowing how Dre is, he must be hooked 24/7 on as many hip hop forums/networks as can be to check the feedbacks lol
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There are so many shameless Aftermath promoters and Dr. Dre stans in these threads is disgusting. :-X
If you feel offended by this you need to, I'm probably talking about you.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511K0okEXPL._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JXH2AU?ie=UTF8&tag=aftermusic00-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B004JXH2AU
that cover is terrible. it is very obvious that its photoshopped. i really hope it's fanmade...
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511K0okEXPL._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JXH2AU?ie=UTF8&tag=aftermusic00-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B004JXH2AU
that cover is terrible. it is very obvious that its photoshopped. i really hope it's fanmade...
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they don't use fanmade covers @ amazon.com
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cover looks dope to me. shame about the track and everything, dre is gonna catch a lot of negative publicity when the single drops.
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Still refuse to believe its for Detox.. lol
FUCK THAT SONG..
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like kush, i don't think this is anything more than a song released to draw attention to the fact that dre is releasing detox in the near future.
hate it if you like, but it will most likely do very well on itunes/amazon, get radio airplay, and have people all around the world discussing it on websites just like we are in this thread. which is exactly what interscope wants.
i'm going to reserve judgement until i hear the final version. i can't imagine dre releasing a song that sounds the same as a track that leaked almost two months ago.
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i'm surprised that the final version hasn't leaked yet
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
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damn waiting 11 years for songs not produced by the DRE wtf >:(
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
I've warmed slightly to it and the hook is quite good and very commercial, but I really don't like the drums (hopefully Dre makes the drums more Dre like), I HATE the way that Eminem raps on these types of tracks (like Love The Way You Lie) and the Dre verse is all over the place and doesn't even sound like Dre (hopefully they rerecord AND rewrite that). No doubt that it will sell on itunes though.
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
Because this is what people waited eleven years for. All Dre sees on this song is "I Need A Doctor - Dr. Dre Featuring Eminem & Skylar Grey".
Em just sold five million, put him on your single, give an unusual two verses & it'll sell. Maybe to no one on here, but to the rest of the World. The album buying World.
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
Because this is what people waited eleven years for. All Dre sees on this song is "I Need A Doctor - Dr. Dre Featuring Eminem & Skylar Grey".
Em just sold five million, put him on your single, give an unusual two verses & it'll sell. Maybe to no one on here, but to the rest of the World. The album buying World.
The single will probably sell but that doesnt mean the album will do Em numbers damn waiting 11 years for songs not produced by the DRE wtf >:(
Kind of how I feel, 2 tracks into Detox and 2 tracks by Khalil and Alex the Kidi'm surprised that the final version hasn't leaked yet
They pushed up the release to the 25th so it should any day now
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One word: anticipointment
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Just listened to this for the very first time. Wow, not what I expected :-\ :-\ :-\
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
Because this is what people waited eleven years for. All Dre sees on this song is "I Need A Doctor - Dr. Dre Featuring Eminem & Skylar Grey".
Em just sold five million, put him on your single, give an unusual two verses & it'll sell. Maybe to no one on here, but to the rest of the World. The album buying World.
The single will probably sell but that doesnt mean the album will do Em numbers
Of course not. Nobody will do five million until the next Eminem album lol. But you throw Eminem over it, add other features & Dre can definitely do two million.
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Just listened to this for the very first time. Wow, not what I expected :-\ :-\ :-\
and you expected what?
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Just listened to this for the very first time. Wow, not what I expected :-\ :-\ :-\
and you expected what?
Stupid question, try again.
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
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cover looks dope to me. shame about the track and everything, dre is gonna catch a lot of negative publicity when the single drops.
the cover could've been dope. if they'd actually taken the time to make those signs themselves (which would've taken very little time and cost next to nothing) and photographed it themselves it would've been good. instead they paid some shit designer to Photoshop it and we're left this piece of crap. terrible...
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they don't use fanmade covers @ amazon.com
i'm sure they don't. i was hoping that it had been submitted to them as album art by a fan...
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(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/5372382171_c8c40b9971.jpg)
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
Any coincidence that everyone you mentioned is a basic "founding father" of Hip Hop? The impact can never be matched, hence why nobody will admit that better music can be made.
& look at all the names you mentioned for this generation. Everyone you named outside of Joe Budden is the hottest act in Hip Hop right now. Dr. Dre is in that company in terms of mainstream. Whether you like it or not, he's not making music for a particular fan base of his. He's making music for the fan bases of the artists you mentioned above because those fan bases buy albums lol.
& no, I don't think mainstream artists of today can make music better than those artists. But underground artists can. Fashawn made an amazing album. Even a little well more known Nas's "Nigger" album was great to me. Ask someone whose 25 & he'll say "ehh, it's pretty good, but it's nothing like 'insert random album from 1995'". If there is no impact, it won't be remembered. & it's not POSSIBLE to have such impact today. The only thing making impact on the public is Wayne & Eminem & most of you guys just laugh at the thought of that.
See, I was born in the start of today's acts & the end of the old acts. I heard the old acts first though. But you ask a 13-14 year old & he'll tell you that Wayne or Drake or anyone you named is amazing & the best Hip Hop ever. & in 15-20 years, the next generation will be saying their mainstream artists are the best & Wayne & Drake were alright.
Fast-forward to when everybody alive now the age of 40+ passes on. You think Frank Sinatra will still be talked about as great? You have people who lived through his era & they continue to talk about him, but when that era/generation of people isn't around anymore, the names of people they will tell you are great will just disappear.
It's a very simple concept.
Just to sum it up:
1. Dre is attempting to sell mainstream, hence the album will be mainstream.
2. I guarantee you don't find an album of any underground artist that you said "make great music, that is worth checking" nearly as good as any of those older artists you named because there is no impact todays artists can give.
3. As generations pass, new acts come up & the kids/listeners of that generation think it's the best ever.
I mean, is it any coincidence that in from the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's & 2000's, each decade there has been a new genre that emerged as the dominating genre? Time passes & styles get old & stale, man.
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maybe the final will sound drastically different but as it stands I do not like the track
feeling the cover though
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well the track length on the amazon site is about 4 seconds longer than the copy we have....so i'm pretty sure we heard a shitty sounding version of the official track. one can hope the verses are different
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well the track length on the amazon site is about 4 seconds longer than the copy we have....so i'm pretty sure we heard a shitty sounding version of the official track. one can hope the verses are different
You sure that the 4-sec difference can change the whole song? LOL
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So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
Lol why'd you put Jiggaman in the first list when he belongs in the second? Also half them dudes in the other lists are still around. Also you forgot to add Vanilla Ice, Kris Kross and MC Hammer and a bunch of other "hot" names.
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Dre and Em licking each other's assholes clean on a song = GARBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGE .
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Just listened to this for the very first time. Wow, not what I expected :-\ :-\ :-\
and you expected what?
Stupid question, try again.
thats what im thinking 8)
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
you obviously dont listen to rakim
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
you obviously dont listen to rakim
yes i do. he's last album is weak
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
you obviously dont listen to rakim
yes i do. he's last album is weak
how?
and how Holy Are You is not one of his best songs?
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
lol...
Eminem fuckin saved Dre's second album. "What's the Difference" and "Forgot About Dre" brought that album to life and made the lyrics for that album more updated and compelling. Without it you just have lyrics that are mostly a rehash of old idea's from the mid-90's. We still would of liked it, because most of us, like myself, loved the mid-90's; but for most the listening audience those two tracks were vital to Dre's commercial and critical success. Without it, it may not have been much more than a glorified King Tee album, lol.
I still remember that old Dreday website leaking the origional versions of "Forgot About Dre" and "What's the Difference" in the summer of 99. The beat was stripped down a bit, and it road out to the end on "Forgot About Dre" and ofcourse Xzibit was later added in place of Hitman on "What's the Difference" to really give that track a homerun swing.
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
you obviously dont listen to rakim
yes i do. he's last album is weak
how?
and how Holy Are You is not one of his best songs?
I was play it couple off times,didnt like it,delete it.
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I dont get it. why is track a trash? Dope hook,on point lyrics,beat is meh,not Dre beat,that only thing thats fail's.but who know is this track for detox or not.
Because this is what people waited eleven years for. All Dre sees on this song is "I Need A Doctor - Dr. Dre Featuring Eminem & Skylar Grey".
Em just sold five million, put him on your single, give an unusual two verses & it'll sell. Maybe to no one on here, but to the rest of the World. The album buying World.
The single will probably sell but that doesnt mean the album will do Em numbers damn waiting 11 years for songs not produced by the DRE wtf >:(
Kind of how I feel, 2 tracks into Detox and 2 tracks by Khalil and Alex the Kidi'm surprised that the final version hasn't leaked yet
They pushed up the release to the 25th so it should any day now
yeah but it's still late, if you look at Kush.
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
lol...
Eminem fuckin saved Dre's second album. "What's the Difference" and "Forgot About Dre" brought that album to life and made the lyrics for that album more updated and compelling. Without it you just have lyrics that are mostly a rehash of old idea's from the mid-90's. We still would of liked it, because most of us, like myself, loved the mid-90's; but for most the listening audience those two tracks were vital to Dre's commercial and critical success. Without it, it may not have been much more than a glorified King Tee album, lol.
I still remember that old Dreday website leaking the origional versions of "Forgot About Dre" and "What's the Difference" in the summer of 99. The beat was stripped down a bit, and it road out to the end on "Forgot About Dre" and ofcourse Xzibit was later added in place of Hitman on "What's the Difference" to really give that track a homerun swing.
cosign to the fullest, eminem contributed alot to dre's commercial success.
can you up those tracks you mentioned?
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
lol...
Eminem fuckin saved Dre's second album. "What's the Difference" and "Forgot About Dre" brought that album to life and made the lyrics for that album more updated and compelling. Without it you just have lyrics that are mostly a rehash of old idea's from the mid-90's. We still would of liked it, because most of us, like myself, loved the mid-90's; but for most the listening audience those two tracks were vital to Dre's commercial and critical success. Without it, it may not have been much more than a glorified King Tee album, lol.
I still remember that old Dreday website leaking the origional versions of "Forgot About Dre" and "What's the Difference" in the summer of 99. The beat was stripped down a bit, and it road out to the end on "Forgot About Dre" and ofcourse Xzibit was later added in place of Hitman on "What's the Difference" to really give that track a homerun swing.
cosign to the fullest, eminem contributed alot to dre's commercial success.
can you up those tracks you mentioned?
thanks...
...and no, back when those tracks were leaked on the DreDay website in Summer of 99 it was just an audio rip that you could play directly from the page. I wasn't that hi-tech back then, I actually took my cd/tape player up to the computer speaker and recorded the audio directly thru a microphone that was plugged into my cd/tape player and recorded those two tracks onto a blank tape, lol... damn, that whole process sounds so old school now!
They also had a leak in summer of 99' on the Dreday site of "The Throne Is Mine" the Royce vocals for Dre2001/leak that didn't end up making the album, along with the "Kim" track that ended up on the Marshall Mathers LP nearly a year later! Another great leak (although I'm not positive if this one came from DreDay) was the still unreleased track "Our House" with Eminem and Fred Durst.
I swear those 4-5 tracks from DreDay.com were the shittiest quality by the time I had them copied onto the audio cassette, but I clearly remember bumping the hell out of those tracks nearly everyday that summer and every morning before leaving for school my senior year highschool that fall, just to get me by until Dre's album was finally released in November 99!
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And LOL at Cham Click always making excuses for wack music cuz he's sad his generation of music is so shitty and generic.
Making excuses? All I'm saying is the rest of you are complete morons for having such high expectations & hoping you can understand this is as good as it's going to get.
It's not my generation, it's your generation living in my generation & not understanding that times have changed. Like I said, if "2001" drops in two months & most of you wouldn't even like that.
It's PLASTERED in your heads that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago. & you basically prove that by this quote of yours lmfao.
It's a simple concept that nobody wants to listen because it makes you seem stupid. I ask you whose the best basketball player ever, you say MJ. You ask my generation, they say Kobe. You ask the generation before you & they say Bird or Magic. You want to believe what you're seeing is the greatest thing imaginable & nothing can surpass that.
Where in the fuck do you get that it's plastered in my head that nothing in 2011 can come close to anything made 10-15 years ago? You talk out of your ass so much it's hard to take you serious. There are still some good artists making good music and worth checking, but they are few and far between and basically non-existent as far as mainstream goes.
So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
They last good song was before 65 years.they washd up. they carriers are over. and why i wonna hear wahsd up rapper on somthing futuristic? New? and this first list is funny,they never work with Dre. Cept Jigga and Joe.
you obviously dont listen to rakim
yes i do. he's last album is weak
how?
and how Holy Are You is not one of his best songs?
I was play it couple off times,didnt like it,delete it.
matter of taste ofc, but u should download it and listen again, esp lyrics. too dope
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Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album
:rubeyes:
lol...
Eminem fuckin saved Dre's second album. "What's the Difference" and "Forgot About Dre" brought that album to life and made the lyrics for that album more updated and compelling. Without it you just have lyrics that are mostly a rehash of old idea's from the mid-90's. We still would of liked it, because most of us, like myself, loved the mid-90's; but for most the listening audience those two tracks were vital to Dre's commercial and critical success. Without it, it may not have been much more than a glorified King Tee album, lol.
I still remember that old Dreday website leaking the origional versions of "Forgot About Dre" and "What's the Difference" in the summer of 99. The beat was stripped down a bit, and it road out to the end on "Forgot About Dre" and ofcourse Xzibit was later added in place of Hitman on "What's the Difference" to really give that track a homerun swing.
cosign to the fullest, eminem contributed alot to dre's commercial success.
can you up those tracks you mentioned?
thanks...
...and no, back when those tracks were leaked on the DreDay website in Summer of 99 it was just an audio rip that you could play directly from the page. I wasn't that hi-tech back then, I actually took my cd/tape player up to the computer speaker and recorded the audio directly thru a microphone that was plugged into my cd/tape player and recorded those two tracks onto a blank tape, lol... damn, that whole process sounds so old school now!
They also had a leak in summer of 99' on the Dreday site of "The Throne Is Mine" the Royce vocals for Dre2001/leak that didn't end up making the album, along with the "Kim" track that ended up on the Marshall Mathers LP nearly a year later! Another great leak (although I'm not positive if this one came from DreDay) was the still unreleased track "Our House" with Eminem and Fred Durst.
I swear those 4-5 tracks from DreDay.com were the shittiest quality by the time I had them copied onto the audio cassette, but I clearly remember bumping the hell out of those tracks nearly everyday that summer and every morning before leaving for school my senior year highschool that fall, just to get me by until Dre's album was finally released in November 99!
unreleased? isnt it this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_cjZpKmZVY
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"unreleased" is kind of another word for "unliscenced" or "without permision" or "not released commercially" or "not in record stores"....
..."unreleased" doesnt mean "hey I got this Eminem track that nobody else has ever heard before and it is top secret classified"
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the chorus is annoying
I need a doctor to bring me back to life :puke:
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the chorus is annoying
I need a doctor to bring me back to life :puke:
I don't like it either but if they were looking for a commercial track they found it.
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"i need a doctor" is the first official single so dre comes with another video too
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the chorus is annoying
I need a doctor to bring me back to life :puke:
tbh the chorus is the best part of the song, in my opinion
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So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
Lol why'd you put Jiggaman in the first list when he belongs in the second? Also half them dudes in the other lists are still around. Also you forgot to add Vanilla Ice, Kris Kross and MC Hammer and a bunch of other "hot" names.
Jay's best album is def from that era...I put him in the first group just because most people in the current generation think Jay is the GOAT, which has really only happened in the last 5-6 years or so. In the early / mid 90's nobody even remotely thought that. However, putting him in the 2nd group only further solidifies that generation and takes away one of the biggest heavy hitters the most current gen. has...but yeah maybe it is more appropriate.
As far as them still being around, every rapper I named has put out material in the last 2-3 years, with the exception of Biggie and Pac...that doesn't matter. I'm talking about the timeframe that spawned the artist.
And I didn't forget MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice. No where in my post did I say the early generations were devoid of wack / bullshit artists. I was illustrating that the best of the current generation isn't touching the best of earlier generations. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Where is this song anyways? It should be leaked by now fuck
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Where is this song anyways? It should be leaked by now fuck
The date according to this web site: http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases was changed to February 8th, so I don't know if that will affect when it leaks or not, but one would think that it might. Amazon.com still says the single is coming out February 1st though, so who knows.
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So by your logic, I guess you believe that Wayne / Drake / Jiggaman / Rick Ross / Kanye / Nicki Minaj / Joe Buddden have made better music than Nas / Biggie / Pac / Outkast / Dre / Cube and def better than Rakim / KRS / Slick Rick / Kool G Rap / Big Daddy Kane. If you believe that, then thats your opinion but it doesn't get much credibility in the musical taste department.
Lol why'd you put Jiggaman in the first list when he belongs in the second? Also half them dudes in the other lists are still around. Also you forgot to add Vanilla Ice, Kris Kross and MC Hammer and a bunch of other "hot" names.
Jay's best album is def from that era...I put him in the first group just because most people in the current generation think Jay is the GOAT, which has really only happened in the last 5-6 years or so. In the early / mid 90's nobody even remotely thought that. However, putting him in the 2nd group only further solidifies that generation and takes away one of the biggest heavy hitters the most current gen. has...but yeah maybe it is more appropriate.
As far as them still being around, every rapper I named has put out material in the last 2-3 years, with the exception of Biggie and Pac...that doesn't matter. I'm talking about the timeframe that spawned the artist.
And I didn't forget MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice. No where in my post did I say the early generations were devoid of wack / bullshit artists. I was illustrating that the best of the current generation isn't touching the best of earlier generations. Somebody prove me wrong.
Same goes for the other rappers you mentioned. None of the 80s rappers were considered GOATS in the 80s, none of the 90s rappers were considered GOATS in the 90s. (cept for Pac and Biggie because their status was hyped and elevated with both of their deaths). Nas wasn't no goat in the 90s. As a matter of fact people were saying he lost it because each album got worse and worse after illmatic. It was actually his whole beef with Jay-Z (which took place in the 00s) that brought his career back and elevated both of them to OG legend status.
Also, you can't seriously think Drake, Wayne, Rick Ross, Minaj, Budden etc. are the best the current generation has to offer. Now that's just laughable. Besides my opinion that most of them are weak, Wayne came out in the 90s, and 2 of those names came out this year. Kanye I can agree with. Give him 10 more years and he'll be on the legend status of the other rappers you mentioned. But aside from 'Ye, if you're only talking about mainstream I can agree that it has generally been less impressive. Hip hop as a whole? Fuck no. While the mainstream has gotten worse, the underground gets better and better :)
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This song is the gayest track I've heard in a long time. "One more cd and I'm packing up my bags..." might as well just pack them right now.
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Not surprising if true. Just like what happened for 2001. They're following the same formula. The 1st single off that album was with Snoop (Still DRE) and it bombed just like Kush is doing now. They then released Forgot About Dre with Eminem, which was prolly the worst song on that album but it had Eminem so it did well.
Forgot About Dre was a dope track, much better than I Need A Doctor IMO, but they are using the same formula
amen to that.
btw: i thought "kush" was the first single?
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I guess I'm the only one here but I like this song 10 x more than Forgot About Dre. The hook in this track is great and it sticks in your head. I think the finished version will be a lot better.
The song has substance too unlike Kush and most other bubblegum-rap songs. Eminem goes on a Kim type rant sounding nuts.
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"Forgot About Dre" is a classic, the leaked version of "I Need A Doc" was mad weak. I hope the final version sounds different and Dre will have atleast two verses.
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"Forgot About Dre" is a classic, the leaked version of "I Need A Doc" was mad weak. I hope the final version sounds different and Dre will have atleast two verses.
I agree most people hold it as being a classic (not to me) but Forgot About Dre was annoying as fuck. That plucking sound + Eminem ranting = irritating. Sounded like it could be a sequel to My Name Is. I always skip that track when I listen to 2001.
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I guess I'm the only one here but I like this song 10 x more than Forgot About Dre. The hook in this track is great and it sticks in your head. I think the finished version will be a lot better.
The song has substance too unlike Kush and most other bubblegum-rap songs. Eminem goes on a Kim type rant sounding nuts.
:nahnah: :loopaper:
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:nahnah: :loopaper:
Thanks for the response. I guess I'm alone on this one ???
No one else likes it ...?
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:nahnah: :loopaper:
Thanks for the response. I guess I'm alone on this one ???
No one else likes it ...?
maybe it's your nickname ???
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maybe it's your nickname ???
Yea your probably right ...
I'm guessing it will sound a lot different and this was just a reference. We'll see ... I'm still surprised it hasn't leaked yet.
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"Forgot About Dre" is a classic, the leaked version of "I Need A Doc" was mad weak. I hope the final version sounds different and Dre will have atleast two verses.
I agree most people hold it as being a classic (not to me) but Forgot About Dre was annoying as fuck. That plucking sound + Eminem ranting = irritating. Sounded like it could be a sequel to My Name Is. I always skip that track when I listen to 2001.
the same way you find Forgot about Dre irritating I feel about I Need A Doctor lol
I will give the final version a chance, maybe they reworked the track due to the feedback :-\
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"Forgot About Dre" is a classic, the leaked version of "I Need A Doc" was mad weak. I hope the final version sounds different and Dre will have atleast two verses.
I agree most people hold it as being a classic (not to me) but Forgot About Dre was annoying as fuck. That plucking sound + Eminem ranting = irritating. Sounded like it could be a sequel to My Name Is. I always skip that track when I listen to 2001.
the same way you find Forgot about Dre irritating I feel about I Need A Doctor lol
I will give the final version a chance, maybe they reworked the track due to the feedback :-\
well the hook is the worst part, but i doubt he's going to scrap that.
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"I Need A Doctor" doesn't compare to "Forgot About Dre"
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maybe it's your nickname ???
Yea your probably right ...
I'm guessing it will sound a lot different and this was just a reference. We'll see ... I'm still surprised it hasn't leaked yet.
i think you might be right. i'm starting to rethink the assumption that the final will be exactly or even very similar to what we already heard. based on where the leak came from, dre is barely on the track, etc. will have to see, but i can't see myself digging it at all. more to do with the vibe than the beat getting upgraded or whatever. but didn't alex da kid say something like 'thanks for believing in my version'...presumably dre had/has different versions of the beat, beside any different vocals.
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Video is being shot!
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"I Need A Doctor" doesn't compare to "Forgot About Dre"
It's actually not in the same universe lol.
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track is ok for now...
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"Forgot About Dre" is a classic, the leaked version of "I Need A Doc" was mad weak. I hope the final version sounds different and Dre will have atleast two verses.
I agree most people hold it as being a classic (not to me) but Forgot About Dre was annoying as fuck. That plucking sound + Eminem ranting = irritating. Sounded like it could be a sequel to My Name Is. I always skip that track when I listen to 2001.
the same way you find Forgot about Dre irritating I feel about I Need A Doctor lol
I will give the final version a chance, maybe they reworked the track due to the feedback :-\
well the hook is the worst part, but i doubt he's going to scrap that.
i didn't think it would happen, but the beat sounds different to me now than it did when it first leaked.
so i guess i'll cut out the hook from the final version
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I need a Doctor Video shoot is going down this weekend in LA,
and the Hughes brothers will be there on set directing
they directed Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents
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Hughes Bros directing Dre's new single video? I hope they bring thier A-game even though music videos are played out.
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Hughes Bros directing Dre's new single video? I hope they bring thier A-game even though music videos are played out.
are these dudes like hype williams or someshit
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Damn, that's crazy. I wonder what they will come up with.
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I need a Doctor Video shoot is going down this weekend in LA,
and the Hughes brothers will be there on set directing
they directed Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents
Where did you hear this?
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I need a Doctor Video shoot is going down this weekend in LA,
and the Hughes brothers will be there on set directing
they directed Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents
Where did you hear this?
prolly some twitter rant..
They should just stop wastin time on this piece of crap..
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the chorus is annoying
I need a doctor to bring me back to life :puke:
tbh the chorus is the best part of the song, in my opinion
This! And it would be a great Em track, too. Just don't like the Dre part.
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Video is being shot!
TRG ! I believe you, but hit me up with the source please ;D. I get very skeptical when it comes to Detox.
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this has to be one of the worst songs Dre has ever done oh wait he didn't even produce it ::)
wack beat, annoying chorus, and Em screaming all over with Dre having one verse and sounding out of place
Dre so far is 0 for 2
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http://www.splashnewsonline.com/2011-01-25/eminem-salutes-you/
Rapper Eminem was snapped on the music video set of I Need A Doctor in Downtown
Los Angeles.
(http://www.splashnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spl242900_002-wm900-373x560.jpg)(http://www.splashnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spl242900_008-wm900-373x560.jpg)
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http://www.splashnewsonline.com/2011-01-25/eminem-salutes-you/
Rapper Eminem was snapped on the music video set of I Need A Doctor in Downtown
Los Angeles.
(http://www.splashnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spl242900_002-wm900-373x560.jpg)(http://www.splashnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spl242900_008-wm900-373x560.jpg)
Thanks for the find !
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This song is GARBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGE !!!!!
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Che Viscous said they shot the video over the weekend already...not this comin weekend...
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I need a Doctor Video shoot is going down this weekend in LA,
and the Hughes brothers will be there on set directing
they directed Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents
Where did you hear this?
http://www.zimbio.com/Eminem/articles/EIqfN0D2HTq/DR+DRE+NEED+DOCTOR+FT+EMINEM+SKYLAR+GREY
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
you need a doctor
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
you need a doctor
hahahahaha +1
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8) 8)
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Final version is of course the same. If this is really the first single for Detox, then it's quite clear Dre is confused. The cd is gonna flop big time.
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Kush >>>>>>>>> I Need A Doctor
Don't know what to think about this track. It surely has hit potential, especially the hook is radio friendly. Maybe Dre really didn't produce the majority of Detox.... That would be a shock. Going back listening to "Purp & Patron".......
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
you need a doctor
hahahahaha +1
cham will probably reply like this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Mofsp8d9IxE
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http://www.youtube.com/v/GkF31-tCo1w
embedding works fine
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
They've changed the date three different times. It started out Feb. 1st, then they changed it to January 25th, then they changed it to February 8th, and now it appears it's been changed back to Feb. 1st. I really had no expectation that it would drop yesterday. I'm thinking the Feb. 1st date is probably accurate because that's the date Amazon.com has for it. But who knows.
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and now it appears it's been changed back to Feb. 1st.
Really ? I can't even see it anymore
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-mainstream/future-releases
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
Fixed, thanks to EnzoUk.
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the release has been pushed back to:
February 8, 2011
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impacting songs
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Dr. Dre
Aftermath/Interscope
* I Need A Doctor (f. Eminem)
SOURCE: http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
so basically that version floating round as the CDQ version is bullshit ;D
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still the song is wack
and i doubt it will sound any different
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the release has been pushed back to:
February 8, 2011
#
impacting songs
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Dr. Dre
Aftermath/Interscope
* I Need A Doctor (f. Eminem)
SOURCE: http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
so basically that version floating round as the CDQ version is bullshit ;D
why is it bullshit?
Ever heard of a leak? ;D
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Lets hope it stays getting pushed back. Track is wack. :-[
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Final version will be the one we've heard minus the flanger effect. Of course in CDQ, so those of you hoping/ trying desperate to fool yourself with "Dre probably changed the beat, crisped it up, etc." BS is going to be dissapointed.
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looks like we will have to wait till Feb 1st to hear the final version
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looks like we will have to wait till Feb 1st to hear the final version
It's the 8th homie, the 8th ! 8)
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
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looks like we will have to wait till Feb 1st to hear the final version
It's the 8th homie, the 8th ! 8)
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
Amazon still has it for the 1st :-\
http://www.amazon.com/I-Need-A-Doctor-Explicit/dp/B004JXH26E/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296059599&sr=301-1
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looks like we will have to wait till Feb 1st to hear the final version
It's the 8th homie, the 8th ! 8)
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
Amazon still has it for the 1st :-\
http://www.amazon.com/I-Need-A-Doctor-Explicit/dp/B004JXH26E/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296059599&sr=301-1
Oh ! Sorry about that, didn't know that part of the story.... Why would Amazon have it before radio tho ? They might have their dates f.ked up. Let's not forget that these are the guys who accidentally shipped lil wayne albums 6 months before the release.
And now i Just realized, that if the shipped those wayne albums, its because they had it before hand... so you might be right lol. oh well.. let's see how this plays out...
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1st or 8th doesn't matter--should've been leaked by now. I've seen Em, Kanye, and Snoop albums out over two weeks before the release date. This is just a single. Expect it to drop any time now.
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Better than the other version... but not good for a real Dr. Dre fan... good for the radio but not for me sorry :rant:
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^It's the 26th & I still don't see this song. :-\
you need a doctor
hahahahaha +1
cham will probably reply like this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Mofsp8d9IxE
Give me the OG version with Pac & that's me right there. 8)
But to be completely honest, I don't think this song will flop. If this gets play on the radio & the public hears Eminem is on the song for not one, but TWO verses. They will be hooked right in.
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I haven't even peeped a snippet of this track and don't think I will until the official version is out that's actually being pushed... hoping I don't hear something as bad as y'all make it out to be cuz I love "Kush" still
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Final version is of course the same. If this is really the first single for Detox, then it's quite clear Dre is confused. The cd is gonna flop big time.
He's definitely confused but I disagree with flop. Other way around. This should ensure it sells IMO. This is about as safe as it can get for a mainstream single. Surely this will be a charting hit.
Instead of deciding what's hot, Dre is starting to conform.
BloodMoney: Picture Dre's version of Castle Walls (not as good) or Airplanes or Love the Way you Lie. Banging beat, killer female hook.
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Kush was realy good, but I Need A Doctor ... It's a real big shit
And on I need a doctor, Dre raps only 45 seconds ... Is it realy the album of Dre ?
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Final version is of course the same. If this is really the first single for Detox, then it's quite clear Dre is confused. The cd is gonna flop big time.
BloodMoney: Picture Dre's version of Castle Walls (not as good) or Airplanes or Love the Way you Lie. Banging beat, killer female hook.
Exactly. & it has Eminem yelling like he did on Recovery which five million people worldwide just jizzed in their pants over & bought.
It's like a darker version of those three songs & it should do just lovely.
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Final version is of course the same. If this is really the first single for Detox, then it's quite clear Dre is confused. The cd is gonna flop big time.
BloodMoney: Picture Dre's version of Castle Walls (not as good) or Airplanes or Love the Way you Lie. Banging beat, killer female hook.
Exactly. & it has Eminem yelling like he did on Recovery which five million people worldwide just jizzed in their pants over & bought.
It's like a darker version of those three songs & it should do just lovely.
but when you say "killer" is that supposed to be good or bad, because I like "Castle Walls" and "Airplanes"
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Final version is of course the same. If this is really the first single for Detox, then it's quite clear Dre is confused. The cd is gonna flop big time.
BloodMoney: Picture Dre's version of Castle Walls (not as good) or Airplanes or Love the Way you Lie. Banging beat, killer female hook.
Exactly. & it has Eminem yelling like he did on Recovery which five million people worldwide just jizzed in their pants over & bought.
It's like a darker version of those three songs & it should do just lovely.
but when you say "killer" is that supposed to be good or bad, because I like "Castle Walls" and "Airplanes"
The hook is easily the best part of the song. "Castle Walls" and "Airplanes" are better than this though. Dre sounds extremely uncomfortable on this.
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The hook is catchy and is what will give it hit potential. If Eminem were using his Marshal Mathers LP voice I would like the song a lot more. I really can't stand that angry voice after an entire album of it.
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Castle Walls & Airplanes (Part II) are 100 times better than this.
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Castle Walls & Airplanes (Part II) are 100 times better than this.
That's not important though. It's about sales. To them anyway.
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Now I've heard it in CDQ I think it's a really good song, that will appeal to the kids who buy music.
But, I can't understand why Dr Dre, a producer is rapping other peoples lyrics on other peoples beats (P Diddy)!? Detox is so anticipated due to the fact pretty much the undisputed greatest hip hop producer of all time has taken his time (nearly 12 years) to Create a masterpiece to end his solo career on an all time high. Now we're two songs into Detox and no Dre production, I havn't been waiting like a crack head for all this time to hear Dre's lyrics, I've been waiting to hear a full length album of his production.
I can see why Maybe he would use a popular pop/hip hop producer for a single, as Dr Dre does not produce modern pop music without is sounding really forced and a bit cheesy ie. Just Lose It, We made you, I Dominate. So Alex Da kid producing a single for Detox makes sense as he's a better at making modern radio songs, but Dre could have made a record Like the Kush, and probably been better aswell!
I'm seriously worried that Relapse will be the closest thing I get to the Detox that I've envisioned in my mind for all these years.
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Now I've heard it in CDQ I think it's a really good song, that will appeal to the kids who buy music.
But, I can't understand why Dr Dre, a producer is rapping other peoples lyrics on other peoples beats (P Diddy)!? Detox is so anticipated due to the fact pretty much the undisputed greatest hip hop producer of all time has taken his time (nearly 12 years) to Create a masterpiece to end his solo career on an all time high. Now we're two songs into Detox and no Dre production, I havn't been waiting like a crack head for all this time to hear Dre's lyrics, I've been waiting to hear a full length album of his production.
I can see why Maybe he would use a popular pop/hip hop producer for a single, as Dr Dre does not produce modern pop music without is sounding really forced and a bit cheesy ie. Just Lose It, We made you, I Dominate. So Alex Da kid producing a single for Detox makes sense as he's a better at making modern radio songs, but Dre could have made a record Like the Kush, and probably been better aswell!
I'm seriously worried that Relapse will be the closest thing I get to the Detox that I've envisioned in my mind for all these years.
care to link me to the CDQ? the CDQ hasnt been leaked if you read the thread!
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Pretty sure the one hiphopdx just posted is CdQ, if not it's a lot better quality than the version that leaked ages ago.
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The version I posted in outbound is the closest you will get to CDQ for the moment
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4MCSLCJQ
its this one
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I don't mind the Eminem yelling on this track, his verses are tight but Dre sounds uncomfortable rapping his part(coached by Em probably) and the chorus is something I expect from a Diddy, BOB, Em record. Not Dr. Dre's first official single from Detox. No doubt it will do well on the charts and probably sell the album but his hardcore fans are left to wonder :-\
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http://www.drdre.com/i-need-a-doctor/
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Trash, everything about this track is ridiculously bad
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The official version gotta be diff. I mean, c'mon, this is it?????
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It has to be different. No way Interscope spends money on a video for a song that leaked two months ago.
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I don't mind the Eminem yelling on this track, his verses are tight but Dre sounds uncomfortable rapping his part(coached by Em probably) and the chorus is something I expect from a Diddy, BOB, Em record. Not Dr. Dre's first official single from Detox. No doubt it will do well on the charts and probably sell the album but his hardcore fans are left to wonder :-\
Exactly this. I don't mind Em. Dre sounds so uncomfortable. His flow on it is awful. Something I'd expect from an amateur really :-\ The chorus mirrors those artists because it sounds like there recent hits (Coming Home, Airplanes, Love The Way You Lie, etc). Exactly. This is not what we envisioned Dre would do.
Oh well
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There are so many shameless Aftermath promoters and Dr. Dre stans in these threads is disgusting. :-X
If you feel offended by this you need to, I'm probably talking about you.
:puke:
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I don't mind the Eminem yelling on this track, his verses are tight but Dre sounds uncomfortable rapping his part(coached by Em probably) and the chorus is something I expect from a Diddy, BOB, Em record. Not Dr. Dre's first official single from Detox. No doubt it will do well on the charts and probably sell the album but his hardcore fans are left to wonder :-\
Exactly this. I don't mind Em. Dre sounds so uncomfortable. His flow on it is awful. Something I'd expect from an amateur really :-\ The chorus mirrors those artists because it sounds like there recent hits (Coming Home, Airplanes, Love The Way You Lie, etc). Exactly. This is not what we envisioned Dre would do.
Oh well
Dre should at least co-produce his own single
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Is this 100% for detox?
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I don`t think people realize how little power Dre actually has. If Jimmy says " i need a doctor" will be the next single then that's what's gonna happen. Interscope is struggling right now. Their every release over the last few months has flopped (Diddy, soulja boy, black eyed peas, kerry hilson, etc), so when Kush flopped too they weren't gonna take any more chances. They went to the only artist who still consistently makes them money - Eminem. Doesn't mean i like it, but it is what it is.
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Is this 100% for detox?
other dude a few posts up just threw this up on here..
http://www.drdre.com/i-need-a-doctor/
Seems like it.. That is the only confirmation so far I really believe in..
And Eminems yelling is fuckin annoying..
I would also prefer his MMLP voice/flow .
but this song is BEYOND WACK
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i was have hopes,that Dre gonna build this beat like that Busta and Stevie song. but....Dre you realy lost your mind :-\
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http://www.theboombox.com/2011/01/13/eminem-among-performers-at-2011-grammy-awards/
Anybody think Dre might join Eminem on stage at the Grammy's for a live performance of I Need A Doctor? It's on 2/13, in Los Angeles, Interscope is promoting Detox - makes too much sense.
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Think they would have announced it then ^
Would be dope to see Dre performing again!
Just too bad if its done it will be with this song..
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Think they would have announced it then ^
Would be dope to see Dre performing again!
Just too bad if its done it will be with this song..
I guess they would announce it. But I could see them making it a surprise too. They know lots of people will be watching the Grammys regardless.
Guess we will see.
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looks like this time not even Dr Dre can resurrect the fortunes of the west. havent heard one decent "detox" track yet, dudes officially losing his mind...
maybe its early onset dementia or some shit
wonder how many of the fanatics will top themselves when the album drops and its bullshit?
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Honestly, i'm not even gonna hate on the track or it being aimed at kids. What gets me is the fact that the SECOND single now aint even Dre, its some piece of shit Alex Da Kid beat. Dre, this isn't Detox, this is on some 2010 Eminem/Recovery shit. If it was on Recovery or a future Em album, then it's clearly acceptable, but fuck it, i'm sick of beating a dead horse with this. And i'll co-sign the dudes who said the hook is easily the only good part here. The only thing I could see this song good for is a "re-introduction" single for Dre, but not an actual album track (wasn't that supposed to be Kush?).
I remember someone said in that big ass Kush thread that if you were to hear Kush on the radio, you wouldn't be able to see a difference with that and anything else. I disagreed, but for this one, it's truth, at least on the hook/instrumental side. But in the end, I guess we would ALL rather have Dre/Em/Detox running the airwaves than some skinny jeans movement.
And FYI, the thing about Under Pressure was that NO ONE liked it, litterly NOBODY. This track, it seems only the people who been real heavy on Detox are upset with it, as everyone else thinks it's cool or just a little below-standards. So that's why it hasn't been trashed and Detox hasn't been pushed back 2 years.
And one more thing, not sure if it's been mentioned, but they started shooting the video for this on Tuesday.
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yeah i made that comment about Kush. at the time i thought it was produced by Dre, even though the sound was a little different. now that i know that DJ Khalil produced it, it makes sense why i thought that the sound was weird for a Dre produced single.
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I'm hoping that Kush and INAD are both not on the album, and are only serving as re-introduction tracks.
If you look at Kush on iTunes, under album it does not say Detox. Will be interesting if INAD doesn't either.
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The official version of Dr. Dres new Detox single I Need A Doctor (feat. Skylar Grey & Eminem) has just leaked onto the internet. Its obviously a more refined and properly mastered version of the track, and you can stream it below. The official single is set to be released on February 1st. (Skylar Greys website)
detox coming soon ...(summer or september 2011) maybe a big disappointment for us , the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
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looks like this time not even Dr Dre can resurrect the fortunes of the west. havent heard one decent "detox" track yet, dudes officially losing his mind...
maybe its early onset dementia or some shit
wonder how many of the fanatics will top themselves when the album drops and its bullshit?
Probably about 95% of this forum will vanish if that's the case ;D
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
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With a few changes this song could be very good, im lovin the hook. You get addicted to it.
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
Dude that album was mainstream to the fullest. I remember being a kid in middle school when that album came out. The songs were all over the radio and everyone in my age group was loving it. I thought it was the most awesome album I had ever heard. It was definitely targeted at my generation.
So if Dre is making an album targeting kids now, he's basically targeting the same age group he did in 99. That being said, I think Dre should be able to make a mainstream album without trying to remake Recovery. I disapprove of this song's direction.
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The official version of Dr. Dres new Detox single I Need A Doctor (feat. Skylar Grey & Eminem) has just leaked onto the internet. Its obviously a more refined and properly mastered version of the track, and you can stream it below. The official single is set to be released on February 1st. (Skylar Greys website)
detox coming soon ...(summer or september 2011) maybe a big disappointment for us , the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
Where is the link?
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
Dude that album was mainstream to the fullest. I remember being a kid in middle school when that album came out. The songs were all over the radio and everyone in my age group was loving it. I thought it was the most awesome album I had ever heard.
So is that the criteria for a mainstream album? "People loving it & being on the radio"?
Is every album that everyone loves mainstream?
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
Dude that album was mainstream to the fullest. I remember being a kid in middle school when that album came out. The songs were all over the radio and everyone in my age group was loving it. I thought it was the most awesome album I had ever heard. It was definitely targeted at my generation.
So if Dre is making an album targeting kids now, he's basically targeting the same age group he did in 99. That being said, I think Dre should be able to make a mainstream album without trying to remake Recovery. I disapprove of this song's direction.
i understand your mind but dre is 46 years old so he must sale one rock'n roll 's singles to enjoy all fans in the world ?? i'm rock'n roll or not that's the way i live jimmy like rock n roll 's vibe i need a doctor is perfect for the radio
like eminem feat. dido - stan all people liked this record it's a mainstream business !!!
2001 was more gangsta than kush or i need a doctor today the rap game is a combination between rock n rap like lil wayne game jay z or snoop busta rhymes redman lol that's a good way to sale a lot of music !!!
when i saw the featuring on 2001 there was more dirty mc's like xzibit snoop knocturnal kurupt mc ren nate dogg kokane a lot of big dogs man !!
today we listen lady gaga beyonce la roux can be on detox why not madonna too ?
man today is more mainstream than before all fan know the G-funk is dead !!!
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this song is too mainstream its like something my little sister would listen to :D
looks like Dre was told by Iovine to make this who knows what Detox would sound like if he had complete control
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looks like Dre was told by Iovine to make this who knows what Detox would sound like if he had complete control
That's what propably happened. I hope the whole album won't be full of shit like this.
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looks like Dre was told by Iovine to make this who knows what Detox would sound like if he had complete control
That's what propably happened. I hope the whole album won't be full of shit like this.
but i refuse to believe that jimmy or other powerful people told him not to produce his own single. i fully blame dre for that
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looks like Dre was told by Iovine to make this who knows what Detox would sound like if he had complete control
That's what propably happened. I hope the whole album won't be full of shit like this.
but i refuse to believe that jimmy or other powerful people told him not to produce his own single. i fully blame dre for that
yeah Dre should have definitely produced it, like you said he lost his confidence
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yeah Dre should have definitely produced it, like you said he lost his confidence
Yea I don't get why tho... he got a grammy last year. Maybe he feels he's not with the times re: pop-rap so he got a hired gun to help him out. Didn't this guy do the Em/Rihanna song too (which was huge)?
They know the hardcores will get it regardless so I guess they're tryign to get the youngins to buy it too with this new track.
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dr dre succs ass now face it my equals, i mean how you gonna be considered the best hip hop producer of all time,yet you got other's producing for you,and you are more known as a producer more so then a rapper? i mean as alot of net geeks say THAT'S AN EPIC FAIL in itself. I don't care how good the album turns out to be,it still got to succ to you hardcore dre fans to know that your hero has took 12 years to come bacc rap'n on other's beats haha, i swear if this was a producer or rapper yall didn't like y'all would use this shit as an excuse to gloat about them being wacc,and give it as a reason to just dl the album, got to love the truth when it's presented right haha yell
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i mean how you gonna be considered the best hip hop producer of all time,yet you got other's producing for you,and you are more known as a producer more so then a rapper?
I agree with this part ... the guy prolly has 1000s of beats made and for the first single he goes with someone else ... even a so so beat at that. Somethings not right. If he was rapping on an album to someone elses beat fine but his own.. ???
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Relapse Em >>>> New shouting annoying Em
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
Dude that album was mainstream to the fullest. I remember being a kid in middle school when that album came out. The songs were all over the radio and everyone in my age group was loving it. I thought it was the most awesome album I had ever heard.
So is that the criteria for a mainstream album? "People loving it & being on the radio"?
Is every album that everyone loves mainstream?
If you disagree then what would make 2001 not mainstream? Banging beats, catchy hooks, simple lyrics, Isn't that enough? What I liked about 2001 was that almost every song on there could have been a hit.
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Is there a link to the real/official mastered version or are we all bitching about the unfinished still? I checked YouTube and the track they had did not sound radio quality aka polished/mastered version...
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You can clearly hear the song from the version that has leaked. It's not gonna get any better.
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You can clearly hear the song from the version that has leaked. It's not gonna get any better.
Yea it would be a good track for Recovery or Relapse but for Detox a bit dissappointing ....
With that hook tho--which is catchy and memorable--it will do well. That's the only part of the song I really remember. I think this will do good on the charts though.
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I think you're all forgetting that "mainstream" in 1999 is NOT even CLOSE to mainstream of 2011. Back then, it could have been the most gangsta song ever made, but could still be a mainstream song (which didn't necessarily mean that mainstream was bad, in fact people only started hating mainstream rap these past 6 or 7 years). Now in 2011, it doesn't matter who is making the song, or what it sounds like, all that matters is the star power of the people on it, and the fact that it's made for little girls . . . which is why mainstream rap is indeed horseshit, and also why this song is trash. So don't compare mainstream rap now to mainstream rap then.
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the 2001 's era is lost now dr dre and jimmy want to make a mainstream album after 10 years dr dre comes with one little album 13 tracks only !!! what a shame !!!
you don't think 2001 was mainstream?
when i saw the tracklisting of 2001 i think not at all
1. Lolo (Intro) feat. Xzibit & Tray Deee (0'40)
2. The Watcher (3'28)
3. Fuck You feat. Devin the Dude & Snoop Dogg (3'25)
4. Still D.R.E. feat. Snoop Dogg (4'28)
5. Big Ego's feat. Hittman (4'01)
6. Xxplosive feat. Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg & Six-Two (3'35)
7. What's The Difference feat. Xzibit & Eminem (4'04)
8. Bar One feat. Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin (0'51)
9. Light Speed feat. Hittman (2'41)
10. Forgot About Dre feat. Eminem (3'42)
11. The Next Episode feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg (2'42)
12. Let's Get High feat. Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq (2'27)
13. Bitch Niggaz feat. Snoop Dogg, Hittman & Six-Two (4'14)
14. The Car Bomb feat. Mel-Man & Charis Henry (1'01)
15. Murder Ink feat. Hittman & Ms. Roq (2'28)
16. Ed-Ucation feat. Eddie Griffin (1'32)
17. Some L.A Niggaz feat. Defari, Xzibit, Hittman, Time Bomb, King Tee, MC Ren & Kokane (4'25)
18. Pause 4 Porno feat. Jake Steed (1'33)
19. Housewife feat. Kurupt & Hittman (4'03)
20. Ackrite feat. Hittman (3'40)
21. Bang Bang feat. Knoc-turn'al & Hittman (3'42)
22. The Message feat. Mary J. Blige & Rell (5'29)
Dude that album was mainstream to the fullest. I remember being a kid in middle school when that album came out. The songs were all over the radio and everyone in my age group was loving it. I thought it was the most awesome album I had ever heard.
So is that the criteria for a mainstream album? "People loving it & being on the radio"?
Is every album that everyone loves mainstream?
If you disagree then what would make 2001 not mainstream? Banging beats, catchy hooks, simple lyrics, Isn't that enough? What I liked about 2001 was that almost every song on there could have been a hit.
I mean, isn't that what you want from an album though? If you built your dream album wouldn't you want the best production & enjoyable hooks? I mean Dre wasn't lyrical on "The Chronic" either.
I always associate the term "mainstream" with "selling out" or not producing your best work for the public's sake. I guess it just comes down to your definition.
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To everyone:
A mainstream album is one in which its creators anticipate it's going to sell a lot of records -- that could be the artists involved and/or the label backing the project.
I agree that 2001 was a hella mainstream album, as was The Chronic to a certain extent. Straight Outta Compton was not. "Mainstream" is an adjective that describes an album's business potential rather than its musical content.
This is why it's ok to say Dre has been a mainstream artist for over 20 years now, but he has not always been a mainstream artist. Snoop has always been a mainstream artist.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream
Mainstream is, generally, the common current thought of the majority. However, the mainstream is far from cohesive; rather the concept is often considered a cultural construct[citation needed]. It is a term most often applied in the arts[citation needed] (i.e., music, literature, and performance). This includes:
something that is available to the general public;
something that has ties to corporate or commercial entities.
As such, the mainstream includes all popular culture, typically disseminated by mass media. The opposite of the mainstream are subcultures, countercultures, cult followings, and (in fiction) genre. Additionally, mainstream is sometimes a codeword used for an actual ethnocentric or hegemonic subculture point of view, especially when delivered in a culture war speech. It is often used as a pejorative term because hipsters look down upon those who know less about the intricacies of underground and garage bands than the vast majority of the population cares to know about. Pejorative actions towards mainstream members of the population are usually referred to as "Total Carrboro Moves" after a blog founded in Carrboro, North Carolina, a town that embodies hipster subculture. In the United States, mainline churches are sometimes referred to synonymously as "mainstream".
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You can clearly hear the song from the version that has leaked. It's not gonna get any better.
I think there's a good chance you're right, but do we know the source of the leak? Because some of the songs that Koolo guy has leaked were unfinished and some were never meant to be released. I'm not saying that's definitely the case with this because I don't know who leaked "I Need a Doctor." But if that was the case, I'd say there's still a chance that the final version won't be exactly the same. Either way, the retail version should be out in a matter of days and we will all finally know for sure.
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You can clearly hear the song from the version that has leaked. It's not gonna get any better.
I think there's a good chance you're right, but do we know the source of the leak? Because some of the songs that Koolo guy has leaked were unfinished and some were never meant to be released. I'm not saying that's definitely the case with this because I don't know who leaked "I Need a Doctor." But if that was the case, I'd say there's still a chance that the final version won't be exactly the same. Either way, the retail version should be out in a matter of days and we will all finally know for sure.
At the end of the day, Alex Da Kid is not a good producer so its hard to see this sounding any better. He makes pop garbage. None of Dre's technical work can save this track.
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Everybody is so dead-set that this song will blow . . . and what if it doesn't? That would not only make 90% of the people on here right, but it would make Dre/Em/Jimmy/Aftermath/Everyone down with it look like the biggest fools in music. If it doesn't blow, we're looking at one of the biggest fails (yeah I said it) in the history of rap. And basically, the D.O.C. interview confirms everything i've been, and many others have been saying. My hope for Detox is officially gone . . I stuck around after all the bullshit in '04-'08 . . then all the HUGE let downs that leaked and were supposed Detox singles in '09-10 . . . and even after the first official single dropped, Kush, and while it was good, didn't come close to living up to the hype . . . but not anymore. After this I gotta say, Dre needs a fuckin doctor.
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I think there's a good chance you're right, but do we know the source of the leak? ... I'm not saying that's definitely the case with this because I don't know who leaked "I Need a Doctor." But if that was the case, I'd say there's still a chance that the final version won't be exactly the same.
I don't have my hopes up but I hope your right. How the fuck could they release the same dam song that came out in Nov? That's got me scratching my head. It's pretty rare a major album like Dre's would use an old leaked track as a single.
But I just though of it didn't that happen to Crack a Bottle? The diff. was Crack a Bottle was popular at the time!
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But I just though of it didn't that happen to Crack a Bottle? The diff. was Crack a Bottle was popular at the time!
The thing about Crack A Bottle is that it marked many different things: Mostly for Eminem's big return, Dre's big return to the production game (he disappeared from the mainstream for a few years), Dre being featured as a guest which is rare as hell, and 50 featuring as well, in a track with 3 of biggest names in the game. This on the other hand is only significant because it is in relation to Detox. That being said, although I still don't like it: Crack A Bottle > I Need a Doctor. And taking it a step further, in speaking of Detox: Topless >>> Kush/Shit Popped Off >>>>>>>>> I Need A Doctor >> Under Pressure. I know there were others, but these were the only ones that were actually supposed "singles".
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I think you're all forgetting that "mainstream" in 1999 is NOT even CLOSE to mainstream of 2011. Back then, it could have been the most gangsta song ever made, but could still be a mainstream song (which didn't necessarily mean that mainstream was bad, in fact people only started hating mainstream rap these past 6 or 7 years). Now in 2011, it doesn't matter who is making the song, or what it sounds like, all that matters is the star power of the people on it, and the fact that it's made for little girls . . . which is why mainstream rap is indeed horseshit, and also why this song is trash. So don't compare mainstream rap now to mainstream rap then.
You're losing perspective. What makes songs about sex and drugs (2001) better than this?
People have always been hating on mainstream rap. From your perspective its different, because the 90s is the era you started listening to rap. However you go and talk to the people who grew up in the 80s and they thought our shit was trash with its over-glorified violence pandering to white suburban kids.
Everyone has a different perspective of what good rap is. People from the 80s have a different opinion then us who grew up in the 90s, which is different from those who are teenagers listening to rap now. Its a different era. And Dre has to make music that the mainstream now will find appealing. It would fuck up his legacy if he makes an album that the people on dubcc love but everyone else ignores.
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The track is alright. I guess it's just my opinion, but I don't really like listening to rappers rapping about rap music. Feels pretty contrived and corny.
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dr dre is old
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The track is alright. I guess it's just my opinion, but I don't really like listening to rappers rapping about rap music. Feels pretty contrived and corny.
You're right, rapping about slapping hoes, rapping about weed for the 1000th time, about the kinds of cars they own, etc. is definitely more interesting than rapping about rap music.
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clean version
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
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Not thrilled with the production, but I think this is about to blow up. Get ready to hear it on the radio every hour for a while.
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Relapse Em >>>> New shouting annoying Em
I could not agree more.. just add more '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>' . lol
+1
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clean version
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
Im just so embarrassed anybody would release that.. :-X
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*laughing at all the people who thought the leak wasn't official*
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Something i never thought i'd say, i'm more excited about Game's album than i am for Detox.
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*laughing at all the people who thought the leak wasn't official*
yeah a lot of ignorant folks out there. lol
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yeah Dre should have definitely produced it, like you said he lost his confidence
Yea I don't get why tho... he got a grammy last year. Maybe he feels he's not with the times re: pop-rap so he got a hired gun to help him out. Didn't this guy do the Em/Rihanna song too (which was huge)?
They know the hardcores will get it regardless so I guess they're tryign to get the youngins to buy it too with this new track.
i guess he feels that he can't make a monster single for Detox
clean version
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
it still sounds like it's playing in a basement ???
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*laughing at all the people who thought the leak wasn't official*
yeah a lot of ignorant folks out there. lol
Well, leaks are never "official" that's why it's a leak. At this point, I will concede though that the one dropping on the 1st seems to basically be the same song.
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I don't get what some of you were expecting from this final mix. If you look at the first version of Kush that leaked, it wasn't very different than the final mix. Although this one is even less different, they are both almost identical to the early versions. So what is Dre actually getting credit for on "the biggest rap album of all time"? I know he'll get the executive producer credits because he's basically arranging and putting the whole thing together how he wants (or is he? According the D.O.C. interview maybe not) and the mixing credits.
And people need to stop acting like only this site doesn't like it. I don't think any hip-hop fan (who is at all in the know) thinks this is isn't a huge let-down for a Detox single. Not even a Detox leftover as far as i'm concerned, just a shitty Recovery wannabe track.
Also, I kind of saw this coming when the leaks from the past 3 or 4 years weren't produced by Dre either. I just thought he would really fix them up and turn them into Dre production. Guess not.
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you may argue about what pop/mainstream is while the heart of the matter is if the song is good or not. And this one is pure trash... Dre is destroying his own legacy.
If this is the sound of Detox, most advanced rap album ever then it's going to turn Dre form legend to laughing stock. Face it. And please don't tell me things like 'record sales will tell you you were wrong". Bullshit. It's not all about the money. Whores are all about the money. not artists. Artists should be all about the art god dammit (even if it's pop art lol). Record sales ain't shit. Music is the shit... peace
edit: one more thing. imo there's nothing wrong with going mainstream if you're doing it the right way...when good music comes first and money second. Chronic and 2001 sounded like music was on the first place. proof? They've changed mainstream music in some points (it wasn't revolutionary but passionate enough to change some things in mainstream music). Now Dre is following mainstream standards which means he's all about the money recently. and you can hear it in the music.
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I Need a Doctor is constructed the same way Love The Way You Lie. :-\
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yeah Dre should have definitely produced it, like you said he lost his confidence
Yea I don't get why tho... he got a grammy last year. Maybe he feels he's not with the times re: pop-rap so he got a hired gun to help him out. Didn't this guy do the Em/Rihanna song too (which was huge)?
They know the hardcores will get it regardless so I guess they're tryign to get the youngins to buy it too with this new track.
i guess he feels that he can't make a monster single for Detox
clean version
http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases
it still sounds like it's playing in a basement ???
yeah Alex Da Kid raped the song with effects on the beat.. but nothin could really save this song apart from new lyrics, new flows and a different beat.
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you may argue about what pop/mainstream is while the heart of the matter is if the song is good or not. And this one is pure trash... Dre is destroying his own legacy.
If this is the sound of Detox, most advanced rap album ever then it's going to turn Dre form legend to laughing stock. Face it. And please don't tell me things like 'record sales will tell you you were wrong". Bullshit. It's not all about the money. Whores are all about the money. not artists. Artists should be all about the art god dammit (even if it's pop art lol). Record sales ain't shit. Music is the shit... peace
I think you have a point in regard to the quality of the record and based on the two singles that have come out I'm skeptical, but when you listen to Relapse, I think there is still hope. Also, I've never really liked Dre's radio songs anyways. Regardless, although this is a disappointment for long time Dre fans and not what I was hoping for this is the type of song that radio stations are playing and people are buying right now.
The artists that refuse to update their sound fall by the wayside.
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shoulda left the effects on eminems verse in the beginning, thats just my opinion though.
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Song should have two verses. 1 Eminem, 1 Dre.
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you may argue about what pop/mainstream is while the heart of the matter is if the song is good or not. And this one is pure trash... Dre is destroying his own legacy.
If this is the sound of Detox, most advanced rap album ever then it's going to turn Dre form legend to laughing stock. Face it. And please don't tell me things like 'record sales will tell you you were wrong". Bullshit. It's not all about the money. Whores are all about the money. not artists. Artists should be all about the art god dammit (even if it's pop art lol). Record sales ain't shit. Music is the shit... peace
I think you have a point in regard to the quality of the record and based on the two singles that have come out I'm skeptical, but when you listen to Relapse, I think there is still hope. Also, I've never really liked Dre's radio songs anyways. Regardless, although this is a disappointment for long time Dre fans and not what I was hoping for this is the type of song that radio stations are playing and people are buying right now.
The artists that refuse to update their sound fall by the wayside.
True that. But don't forget about one thing. Artists who are unable to make their own unique sound fall too (or they're one hit wonders at best). And when it comes to updating your unique style you need to prove you're still the shit and you are able to come up with something fresh. If you fail you'll probably destroy your "legendary" image (or at least make it hurt bad). Proving you're still the shit is way harder than blowing up. If you don't feel like you can handle it - don't do it.
After hearing Kush and I Need A Doctor songs that are outdated at start i don't think Dre can't handle it. I don't even know if Dre wants to handle it.
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Horrible song for Detox :-\
Fuckin' Pop Rock Beat...
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I don't get what some of you were expecting from this final mix. If you look at the first version of Kush that leaked, it wasn't very different than the final mix. Although this one is even less different, they are both almost identical to the early versions. So what is Dre actually getting credit for on "the biggest rap album of all time"? I know he'll get the executive producer credits because he's basically arranging and putting the whole thing together how he wants (or is he? According the D.O.C. interview maybe not) and the mixing credits.
And people need to stop acting like only this site doesn't like it. I don't think any hip-hop fan (who is at all in the know) thinks this is isn't a huge let-down for a Detox single. Not even a Detox leftover as far as i'm concerned, just a shitty Recovery wannabe track.
Also, I kind of saw this coming when the leaks from the past 3 or 4 years weren't produced by Dre either. I just thought he would really fix them up and turn them into Dre production. Guess not.
It just depends, the difference in the leaked version of a song and the finished, retail version varies tremendously from track to track. You're right about the leaked version of "Kush" not being very different from the finished version. But with the song "Echo" for instance, whoever leaked that track took the components of the song from the studio and put it together themselves, so the leaked version doesn't even have the artists on the song in the proper order. That's why I was asking about the source of the leak, because the original "I Need a Doctor" leak, started circulating about the same time as "Echo" Living Proof" and "All She Wrote." I'm not saying that that made me think that there would definitely be a big difference in the way the end version of "I Need a Doctor" sounded, I was just saying that I thought it was a possibility, at the time.
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they just posted the Full Version on Allhiphop......not very different....
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they just posted the Full Version on Allhiphop......not very different....
Thatīs what Iīve been saying all along. Yet some of these idiots wanted to believe that Dr.Dre would change the beat, composition of the track etc. Pathetic.
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Dope Song 8)
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NOT WHAT I EXPECTED. Fuck!