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Eminem's best nation-wide release (and to be honest I probably like it a tiny bit better than Infinite)
so many classics
the ORIGINAL versions of JDGAF, Cum On Everybody and I'm Shady were better than the LP's remixes but even the remixes were amazing!
and the EP has that dope song featuring Fuzz and Bizarre!
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MMLP > The Eminem Show > Slim Shady LP.
All classics though. "Still Don't Give a Fuck" is without question one of my favorite Eminem songs.
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Eminem show >>>>>>>>>>>
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MMLP > The Eminem Show > Slim Shady LP.
All classics though. "Still Don't Give a Fuck" is without question one of my favorite Eminem songs.
SSLP > Infinite > SSEP > MMLP > Eminem show > anything else
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For me its MMLP > SSLP >> Eminem Show ... but SSLP & MMLP nearly a tie...
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For me its MMLP > SSLP >> Eminem Show ... but SSLP & MMLP nearly a tie...
just remember which album has AS THE WORLD TURNS and which doesn't
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SSLP >> Eminem Show >> MMLP for me.
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SSLP >> Eminem Show >> MMLP for me.
in my eyes Eminem Show and MMLP are seperated by one thing only......the song Remember Me. Other than that both are pretty much even.
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MMLP > The Eminem Show > Slim Shady LP.
8)
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Lol @ infinite
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the Slim Shady LP. Maybe I just like his more serious side.
I mean, you say "As The World Turns" (a classic), but "Stan" could be his best ever. From his flow, to the flawless production to his subject matter.
One of his SINGLES (The Way I Am), a single. One of the songs on an album that should be a little below the rest for the mainstream appeal to appeal to the average listener is practically better then every song on The Slim Shady LP.
I see an argument for The Eminem Show vs. SSLP, but MMLP is just on a higher pedestal for me lol.
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stan has NOTHING on Brain damage, Rock Bottom, if I had or Role Model
If I Had = his most serious song
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stan has NOTHING on Brain damage, Rock Bottom, if I had or Role Model
If I Had = his most serious song
. Lmao what?
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MMLP >> Slim Shady LP >> Eminem Show >> Relapse >> Recovery >> Encore
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the Slim Shady LP. Maybe I just like his more serious side.
I mean, you say "As The World Turns" (a classic), but "Stan" could be his best ever. From his flow, to the flawless production to his subject matter.
One of his SINGLES (The Way I Am), a single. One of the songs on an album that should be a little below the rest for the mainstream appeal to appeal to the average listener is practically better then every song on The Slim Shady LP.
I see an argument for The Eminem Show vs. SSLP, but MMLP is just on a higher pedestal for me lol.
Cham talking sense there! :o
Lol sorry. :laugh:
MMLP is Em at the top of his game. This would be one of the all time greats be the album loses momentum from that RBX featured track. I call it a 9.5/10 album, and you can argue which order all the rest come in, but I don't care really :pimp:
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I also think the Slim Shady LP was better because this was the more raw Eminem. Marshall Mathers LP is a bit more commercial.
Not that that's a bad thing, but still the first LP felt more pure.
SSLP>MMLP>EMINEMSHOW>RELAPSE>FROMTHELAB>ENCORE>RECOVERY
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MMLP contains more songs about how he dealt with the fame and everything, and that is what makes it a weaker album.
Yes, there are songs like Bitch Please II and Stan which are musically very very good, but music is more than just a technical or other aspect. There's something called ''soul'', and SSLP has more soul than anything Eminem has ever done. The energy of the white boy who lived an awful life and had to prove everything, against all odds, is very present. It's very typical of a debut album, Illmatic, Tical, Ready To Die, Power of the Dollar, etc...
MMLP feels like an exquisite piece of art made ''deliberately'' by an artist after the fame, while SSLP feels more like something that had to happen... it contains more things that we can all relate too. Matter fact I could even go as far as saying that the Eminem Show is a better album than MMLP.
The Slim Shady we ca all relate too > The Slim Shady we look up too. Sad but true. And Em is actually one of the few artist who couldn't have done a better job at progressing after each album (except for Encore and Recovery) but it is what it is.
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I also think the Slim Shady LP was better because this was the more raw Eminem. Marshall Mathers LP is a bit more commercial.
Not that that's a bad thing, but still the first LP felt more pure.
SSLP>MMLP>EMINEMSHOW>RELAPSE>FROMTHELAB>ENCORE>RECOVERY
Raw but crude, and less intelligence than MMLP (plus MMLP is better crafted musically).
Just my 2cents!
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It's Em at his rawest and just murdering beats,
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SSLP is my fave slim album. I prefer when he has his raw head on. Some of the stuff he came out with on that album was just wtf the amazing also.
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I also think the Slim Shady LP was better because this was the more raw Eminem. Marshall Mathers LP is a bit more commercial.
Not that that's a bad thing, but still the first LP felt more pure.
SSLP>MMLP>EMINEMSHOW>RELAPSE>FROMTHELAB>ENCORE>RECOVERY
Raw but crude, and less intelligence than MMLP (plus MMLP is better crafted musically).
Just my 2cents!
That's what I'm saying.
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I also think that the SSLP album is more honest, with MMLP he really tried to make some hits.
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MMLP is a better album, but SSLP is definitely up there as one of his best along with TES
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SSLP > Infinite > SSEP > MMLP > Eminem show > anything else
Now people want to act like they are some hardcore Em fans by saying that SSLP or Infinite were his best albums; but where the fuck were all these voices back in 1999 and 2000. It wasn't until after the MMLP came out that I finally started hearing Eminem receiving acceptance from fans. Now it's like an overreaction with fans going back and saying that SSLP was his best album... but I question that...
Eminem himself said he got better and progressed as a rapper and producer with each album (up until falling off with Encore), and I agree with that. SSLP was a great album but MMLP was even better (Dre said it's the closest he ever came to producing a perfect album), and then Eminem Show was pretty much a flawless record. Then Eminem reached the climax of his career with "8 Mile Road" and his biggest hit ever and most memorable track "Lose Yourself".
...so anyway, my point is that yeah, the Slim Shady LP was a great album. But how many people who love it now were supportin it when it first dropped? For me, it was enough to hear he was signed to Aftermath back in 98', but for most it took his appearances on Dre's album and the MMLP before they finally started jumping on the bandwagon.
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I wont claim that one album is better than the other, but what I will say is that I have gained an appreciation for the Infinite album over the years. For some reason any time I put Em on recently its been to put that album on. Its very laid back.
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MMLP>SSLP>RELAPSE>EMINEM SHOW>RECOVERY>ENCORE
my personal opinion...MMLP is a classic...SSLP shows an unpolished em finding his way in the game, very sick....i like relapse and all of its leftovers a whole lot (BUFFALO BILL. hell breaks loose, etc..things get worse...etc...)eminem show is nice but alot of mainstream shit and i dont fuck with ALL of it, and encore we all know is pretty shitty. I didnt like angry em on THE RE UP, and i think he about his his prime during 8 mile like most...
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SSLP > Infinite > SSEP > MMLP > Eminem show > anything else
Now people want to act like they are some hardcore Em fans by saying that SSLP or Infinite were his best albums; but where the fuck were all these voices back in 1999 and 2000. It wasn't until after the MMLP came out that I finally started hearing Eminem receiving acceptance from fans. Now it's like an overreaction with fans going back and saying that SSLP was his best album... but I question that...
Eminem himself said he got better and progressed as a rapper and producer with each album (up until falling off with Encore), and I agree with that. SSLP was a great album but MMLP was even better (Dre said it's the closest he ever came to producing a perfect album), and then Eminem Show was pretty much a flawless record. Then Eminem reached the climax of his career with "8 Mile Road" and his biggest hit ever and most memorable track "Lose Yourself".
...so anyway, my point is that yeah, the Slim Shady LP was a great album. But how many people who love it now were supportin it when it first dropped? For me, it was enough to hear he was signed to Aftermath back in 98', but for most it took his appearances on Dre's album and the MMLP before they finally started jumping on the bandwagon.
I bought the SSLP when it first came out in spring of '99 and it's been a top 10 album of mine EVER since
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SSLP > Infinite > SSEP > MMLP > Eminem show > anything else
Now people want to act like they are some hardcore Em fans by saying that SSLP or Infinite were his best albums; but where the fuck were all these voices back in 1999 and 2000. It wasn't until after the MMLP came out that I finally started hearing Eminem receiving acceptance from fans. Now it's like an overreaction with fans going back and saying that SSLP was his best album... but I question that...
Eminem himself said he got better and progressed as a rapper and producer with each album (up until falling off with Encore), and I agree with that. SSLP was a great album but MMLP was even better (Dre said it's the closest he ever came to producing a perfect album), and then Eminem Show was pretty much a flawless record. Then Eminem reached the climax of his career with "8 Mile Road" and his biggest hit ever and most memorable track "Lose Yourself".
...so anyway, my point is that yeah, the Slim Shady LP was a great album. But how many people who love it now were supportin it when it first dropped? For me, it was enough to hear he was signed to Aftermath back in 98', but for most it took his appearances on Dre's album and the MMLP before they finally started jumping on the bandwagon.
I bought the SSLP when it first came out in spring of '99 and it's been a top 10 album of mine EVER since
Matter of fact, I'm gonna listen to SSLP again.
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i think sslp is his best album, next i would put relapse and probably mmlp. the others after that are pretty much even as far as im concerned
i always preferred his more comical side where he was just spitting lyrics. where he wasnt concentrating so much on the flow or whatever. i can put sslp album on from the start and not skip a track. for me thats VERY rare, pretty much the only album where i can do this
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SSLP>MMLP>The Eminem Show>Relapse>Encore>Recovery
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SSLP > Infinite > SSEP > MMLP > Eminem show > anything else
Now people want to act like they are some hardcore Em fans by saying that SSLP or Infinite were his best albums; but where the fuck were all these voices back in 1999 and 2000. It wasn't until after the MMLP came out that I finally started hearing Eminem receiving acceptance from fans. Now it's like an overreaction with fans going back and saying that SSLP was his best album... but I question that...
Eminem himself said he got better and progressed as a rapper and producer with each album (up until falling off with Encore), and I agree with that. SSLP was a great album but MMLP was even better (Dre said it's the closest he ever came to producing a perfect album), and then Eminem Show was pretty much a flawless record. Then Eminem reached the climax of his career with "8 Mile Road" and his biggest hit ever and most memorable track "Lose Yourself".
...so anyway, my point is that yeah, the Slim Shady LP was a great album. But how many people who love it now were supportin it when it first dropped? For me, it was enough to hear he was signed to Aftermath back in 98', but for most it took his appearances on Dre's album and the MMLP before they finally started jumping on the bandwagon.
I bought the SSLP when it first came out in spring of '99 and it's been a top 10 album of mine EVER since
Me too. since my name is video 8) 8)
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Infinite was shit
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Infinite was theshit
Tonite was fucking awesome
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Infinite was theshit
Tonite was fucking awesome
tonite, open mic, infinite, 313, backstabber, jealousy woes, it's ok
damn man for a "demo" that album was GREAT
just imagine if Em would go and remaster it...he has the masters.
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yooo for real though, god bless dre for helping eminem
#WESTCOAST4LIFE
I think Dre is thankful too that he found Em, that man made him so many more millions
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Em and dre needed eachother, they saved eachothers careers
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Mmlp - sslp/eminem show - relapse - recovery/encore
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I notice people think Encore is one of his worst. Whatīs the deal?
Sure, the content was pointless but I think he was on point with his rapping.
My 1st Single
Toy Soldiers
Never Enough
Rainman
Ass Like That
Spend Some Time
I could go on..
I would put Encore next to Eminem show rather than saying it's equal to Recovery.
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I think if Eminem cut songs off of Encore & shortened it, it wouldn't have gotten hated on.
Still his second worse, no matter how you slice it. But it wouldn't get the whole "This is awful" thing.
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Like Toy Soldiers
Mosh
Rain Man
Spend Some Time
Mockingbird
Crazy In Love
Encore
& add "We As Americans" off the bonus songs & throw in Em's usual skits & you have an album people wouldn't say is "complete shit".
It's just every other song I didn't name gave the album such a terrible reputation.
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I think if Eminem cut songs off of Encore & shortened it, it wouldn't have gotten hated on.
Still his second worse, no matter how you slice it. But it wouldn't get the whole "This is awful" thing.
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Like Toy Soldiers
Mosh
Rain Man
Spend Some Time
Mockingbird
Crazy In Love
Encore
& add "We As Americans" off the bonus songs & throw in Em's usual skits & you have an album people wouldn't say is "complete shit".
It's just every other song I didn't name gave the album such a terrible reputation.
I still prefer an album with 20 tracks and then bonus tracks, and then for half to be good, than an album with 15 tracks. Maybe you donīt like some songs but someone else may like them.
Itīs just that they compare it with Recovery, I donīt get that, because Recovery only had a hand full of decent (not even really good) tracks.
The best track on Recovery wouldn't even be on Encore, and not just because of the difference in styles. Also, the worst track of Encore (Big Weenie) was just to make a point, all that dissing that he did.
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^Big Weenie was dope. His flow was illlll. 8)
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^Big Weenie was dope. His flow was illlll. 8)
I agree but it would be his worst song if you look at the hook. Maybe Puke.. The rest is just great to me.. any thoughts?
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^Big Weenie was dope. His flow was illlll. 8)
I agree but it would be his worst song if you look at the hook. Maybe Puke.. The rest is just great to me.. any thoughts?
I mean, I'm a fan. So I enjoyed the album. So I guess you're asking the wrong person. I mean, I didn't think it was "great", but I liked almost all of it.
His bullshit tracks I didn't take seriously & I guess that's why I didn't straight up hate them.
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^Big Weenie was dope. His flow was illlll. 8)
I agree but it would be his worst song if you look at the hook. Maybe Puke.. The rest is just great to me.. any thoughts?
I mean, I'm a fan. So I enjoyed the album. So I guess you're asking the wrong person. I mean, I didn't think it was "great", but I liked almost all of it.
His bullshit tracks I didn't take seriously & I guess that's why I didn't straight up hate them.
Iīm also a fan, but I still like to think I can be pretty unbiased about music. I straight up hate Recovery.
But whatever, his bullshit tracks still make sense on some level, Big Weenie and Puke are straight up diss songs.
The only meaningless track is Just Lose It, but I think thatīs just a tradition track like Without Me and Real Slim Shady.
The only thing I donīt like on some tracks is Eminem trying to sing when he clearly canīt sing. Still better than autotune though.
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^I think once Interscope realized Eminem had sex appeal to women they did whatever they could to add to it. Girls love "Hayley's Song". Once that came out, I think they tried to make him sing whenever he could lol.
But yeah, I didn't like Recovery, but the fan in me allowed me to enjoy it for what it was.
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i hate Haileys song lol
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I give Encore so many chances, but i never can get into that album
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I give Encore so many chances, but i never can get into that album
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Like Toy Soldiers
Rainman
Mockingbird
Spend Some Time
Encore
Are the standouts for me on that album, but yeah half of it was just trash
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I give Encore so many chances, but i never can get into that album
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Like Toy Soldiers
Rainman
Mockingbird
Spend Some Time
Encore
Are the standouts for me on that album, but yeah half of it was just trash
i like theProof song but thats it
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SSLP>MMLP>The Eminem Show>Relapse>Encore>Recovery
I agree with this order. Only small change is that I can't decide between TES and Relapse. I think I like those about equally. Recovery clearly his weakest to me. Encore has major MAJOR weaknesses but is also a fun creative record that I mostly enjoy.
Actually, I might even like Relapse over TES. Need to listen to those albums again to decide.
SSLP will forever remain my favourite Eminem album. There's a rawness and an emotional quality to that record which I don't think he has come close to matching even though MMLP in many ways is a technically better album.
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Eminem's SSLP style >> Your favourite rapper >> Justin Bieber >> Eminem's most annoying accent on Relapse >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNgIdEU0yk >> Eminem shouting every damn syllable on Recovery >> Getting kicked in the nuts while listening to Justin Bieber's "Eenie Meenie" on repeat >>>> Eminem "singing"
And this is coming from an Eminem fan. I don't think I've ever made it through "Hailie's Song".
Besides the flawless flow Eminem can't seem to get it right these days. He overused the accents on Encore and especially Relapse, then realized that people hated it. Then he dropped that nice verse on "Forever" which everybody liked and then for some reason Eminem decided that he had to shout his way through every verse after that (when his Forever verse wasn't really shouting to begin with).
I really don't like Recovery, but at least his verse on "No Love" was flames. Can't stand the style he employs on "Love The Way You Lie" and "I Need A Doctor".
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I give Encore so many chances, but i never can get into that album
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Like Toy Soldiers
Rainman
Mockingbird
Spend Some Time
Encore
Are the standouts for me on that album, but yeah half of it was just trash
Yea got some shine momments but, that mommenst aint enough
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Eminem's SSLP style >> Your favourite rapper >> Justin Bieber >> Eminem's most annoying accent on Relapse >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNgIdEU0yk >> Eminem shouting every damn syllable on Recovery >> Getting kicked in the nuts while listening to Justin Bieber's "Eenie Meenie" on repeat >>>> Eminem "singing"
And this is coming from an Eminem fan. I don't think I've ever made it through "Hailie's Song".
Besides the flawless flow Eminem can't seem to get it right these days. He overused the accents on Encore and especially Relapse, then realized that people hated it. Then he dropped that nice verse on "Forever" which everybody liked and then for some reason Eminem decided that he had to shout his way through every verse after that (when his Forever verse wasn't really shouting to begin with).
I really don't like Recovery, but at least his verse on "No Love" was flames. Can't stand the style he employs on "Love The Way You Lie" and "I Need A Doctor".
I did make it through Hailieīs Song, but I smoked a lotta dope back in '04/ī05.. only track i really like is spacebound from Recovery though.. I prefer silly accent Em over serious Em anyday.
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Eminem's SSLP style >> Your favourite rapper >> Justin Bieber >> Eminem's most annoying accent on Relapse >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNgIdEU0yk >> Eminem shouting every damn syllable on Recovery >> Getting kicked in the nuts while listening to Justin Bieber's "Eenie Meenie" on repeat >>>> Eminem "singing"
And this is coming from an Eminem fan. I don't think I've ever made it through "Hailie's Song".
Besides the flawless flow Eminem can't seem to get it right these days. He overused the accents on Encore and especially Relapse, then realized that people hated it. Then he dropped that nice verse on "Forever" which everybody liked and then for some reason Eminem decided that he had to shout his way through every verse after that (when his Forever verse wasn't really shouting to begin with).
I really don't like Recovery, but at least his verse on "No Love" was flames. Can't stand the style he employs on "Love The Way You Lie" and "I Need A Doctor".
I did make it through Hailieīs Song, but I smoked a lotta dope back in '04/ī05.. only track i really like is spacebound from Recovery though.. I prefer silly accent Em over serious Em anyday.
Infact, you were smoking so much that you forgot that Hailie's Song is from 2002. 8)
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Kids, I thought this thread is about SSEP & SSLP?
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Eminem's SSLP style >> Your favourite rapper >> Justin Bieber >> Eminem's most annoying accent on Relapse >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNgIdEU0yk >> Eminem shouting every damn syllable on Recovery >> Getting kicked in the nuts while listening to Justin Bieber's "Eenie Meenie" on repeat >>>> Eminem "singing"
And this is coming from an Eminem fan. I don't think I've ever made it through "Hailie's Song".
Besides the flawless flow Eminem can't seem to get it right these days. He overused the accents on Encore and especially Relapse, then realized that people hated it. Then he dropped that nice verse on "Forever" which everybody liked and then for some reason Eminem decided that he had to shout his way through every verse after that (when his Forever verse wasn't really shouting to begin with).
I really don't like Recovery, but at least his verse on "No Love" was flames. Can't stand the style he employs on "Love The Way You Lie" and "I Need A Doctor".
I did make it through Hailieīs Song, but I smoked a lotta dope back in '04/ī05.. only track i really like is spacebound from Recovery though.. I prefer silly accent Em over serious Em anyday.
Infact, you were smoking so much that you forgot that Hailie's Song is from 2002. 8)
Please donīt expect me to remember all the years specifically. But funny though, Iīm from 1990 so I just then began listening to the music and understanding it really.
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he really needs to go back to this style...for real.
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eminem was at his best on the eminem show.
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SSLP and MMLP is a cloooooose call the personally id go with SSLP as it dosent have 'kim' on and bizarre dosent feature
both great ablums though
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eminem was at his best on the eminem show.
No offense, but can you explain to me why you say that? A lot of people seem to feel that way, but for me that album marked the beginning of Eminem's downfall (in terms of making quality music). I thought TES was a wack ass album, not nearly as good as MMLP and especially SSLP.
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infinite > anything but SSLP