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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 23, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
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I think Method Man was one of the legends of 90's hip-hop that sometimes might get overlooked, because he's associated with being in a large and famous group- Wu-Tang. But to me he was the superstar of Wu-Tang. Old Dirty Bastard had star-quality but that came from being fucking crazy not from being a great artist, while Method Man had the whole package as a hip-hop emcee.
The only criticism I would have of Method Man, was that although he had a classic album as a group, 36 Chambers. He failed to produce a classic album as a solo artist. He had a couple of classic cuts as a solo artist with "All I Need" and "Bring The Pain", but him and Rza should of took more time and turned that shit into something on the level of an Illmatic or a Ready To Die.
Also notable, is that he was a part of two successful groups and successful as a solo artist, which not many artists can say that they went platinum in 3 different ways. With Wu-Tang he went Platinum, solo he went platinum, and as a duo with Redman he went platinum. And him and Red even had cuts like "Headbanger Boogie" that will go down as classics... so Meth has got to be remembered as one of the greats.
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The only criticism I would have of Method Man, was that although he had a classic album as a group, 36 Chambers. He failed to produce a classic album as a solo artist. He had a couple of classic cuts as a solo artist with "All I Need" and "Bring The Pain", but him and Rza should of took more time and turned that shit into something on the level of an Illmatic or a Ready To Die.
He had a deadline to meet on handing the album in and the original album that was gonna be released was lost in a flood. For the fact that Tical is still a pretty dope album when it was rushed is quite an achievement.
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just ask the real question you want to ask...get straight to the real lol
what you wanted to say was "how does method man compare to eminem?"
amirite? dont front...
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just ask the real question you want to ask...get straight to the real lol
what you wanted to say was "how does method man compare to eminem?"
amirite? dont front...
:D
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inb4buddenshot
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I mean, bring a part of Wu-Tang already puts him in the elite status.
Wouldn't find him in my top ten though.
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I mean, bring a part of Wu-Tang already puts him in the elite status.
Wouldn't find him in my top ten though.
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Meth is great, but there's a lot of greats. And many of them are great based only on their solo work.
Wouldn't find him in my top ten
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he easily makes my PERSONAL top 30 emcees
not sure about top 25...he's kinda a one trick pony. granted he was great at what he did for over a decade before getting old.
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He's in my top 15 for sure.
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not even in my top 50.
hes an entertainin guestfeature-rapper tho
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not even in my top 50.
i think that quote sums it up 4 most ppl. i like Meth but more as an actor
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I think Meth is a better rapper than he'll probably get credit for. Rap fans sort of have a "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" relationship with artists but while Method Man's solo discography might not be the best in his group, I'd say he was probably one of the best artists in there. As far as rap artists go, he's in the top percentile regardless of where y'all place him on your individual top 10's, 20's, or 50's.
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I think Meth is a better rapper than he'll probably get credit for. Rap fans sort of have a "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" relationship with artists but while Method Man's solo discography might not be the best in his group, I'd say he was probably one of the best artists in there. As far as rap artists go, he's in the top percentile regardless of where y'all place him on your individual top 10's, 20's, or 50's.
na,
its not about "what have u done for me lately"
alota Wu-tang fans dig em, but hes not reputed otherwise (even tho hes from a legenderay rapfamily), unlike - say, Red
Meth is an entertainin indivual/character, actor n sometims as a 16bar-guestrapper, but as an mc - no, never packed a punch lyricaly or wit punchlines. (((threadstarter asked about hes position as an mc on our lists, rite?
plus, no rapper in hiphop-history has re-used as many verses or rhymes as Meth - thats a very big L
granted, its all bout subjectivity when it comes down to it tho
i personly think Meth can b very funny
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plus, no rapper in hiphop-history has re-used as many verses or rhymes as Meth - thats a very big L
Not even Daz?
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he's far from the greatests...
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I don't have a problem with rappers re-usin lines, I think you only notice it if your a huge fan and had the oppurtunity to hear a great number of their tracks, in that case it is bound to happen that some lyrics may get re-used.
Another point about Meth though, is that during the hieght of the East/West beef Meth was one of the rappers who had respect on both sides, he was one of the rare features on Biggies debut album and then the next year he was appearing on All Eyez On Me with Pac.
Meth is someone who's always been very respected in the industry, he really shined on the two documentaries on 90's hiphop The Show and Rhyme And Reason. He's like a spokesperson and an ambassador for the culture.
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He's got a really weak discography. Great in the group but as a solo artist he's mediocre
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one of the greats...end thread.
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I look at Method Man as a great 90's MC. He was part of some of the best stuff to come out in the 90's like 36 Chambers, Forever and his first solo Tical was a huge album also in the 90's. I dont consider him a very relevant artist from 2000 to beyond.
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One of my favorite MC's from the East Coast, but after his first album his albums have been kinda weak. I still haven't heard his latest album, i only heard a few songs from it and i didn't like them at all.
I think Method Man was one of the legends of 90's hip-hop that sometimes might get overlooked, because he's associated with being in a large and famous group- Wu-Tang. But to me he was the superstar of Wu-Tang. Old Dirty Bastard had star-quality but that came from being fucking crazy not from being a great artist, while Method Man had the whole package as a hip-hop emcee.
The only criticism I would have of Method Man, was that although he had a classic album as a group, 36 Chambers. He failed to produce a classic album as a solo artist. He had a couple of classic cuts as a solo artist with "All I Need" and "Bring The Pain", but him and Rza should of took more time and turned that shit into something on the level of an Illmatic or a Ready To Die.
Also notable, is that he was a part of two successful groups and successful as a solo artist, which not many artists can say that they went platinum in 3 different ways. With Wu-Tang he went Platinum, solo he went platinum, and as a duo with Redman he went platinum. And him and Red even had cuts like "Headbanger Boogie" that will go down as classics... so Meth has got to be remembered as one of the greats.
"Headbanger Boogie" was a skit that Meth did on "The Show" soundtrack, i don't think you talkin' about that.
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One of my favorite MC's from the East Coast, but after his first album his albums have been kinda weak.
Sad, but right.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
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One of my favorite MC's from the East Coast, but after his first album his albums have been kinda weak. I still haven't heard his latest album, i only heard a few songs from it and i didn't like them at all.
I suggest that you do check that album out. Surprisingly, it is pretty darn good. I would say over half of it is bumpable.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
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I wouldn't put Meth & Luda in the same league. But D was reffering to the weakness of their solo shit.
However, I was a huge fan of Tical.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
Even if I was it's a opinion. So what if Ludacris' fans are women. Meth has made tracks for them too lol. Meth's style was really nothing IMO, hence the name Method Man because he could rock ANY style, grimey, club, lyrical, cypher, didn't matter. Luda does his thing for sho, where I rank him I don't know. But definitely like I said before, their catalogs leave something to be desired.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
Even if I was it's a opinion. So what if Ludacris' fans are women. Meth has made tracks for them too lol. Meth's style was really nothing IMO, hence the name Method Man because he could rock ANY style, grimey, club, lyrical, cypher, didn't matter. Luda does his thing for sho, where I rank him I don't know. But definitely like I said before, their catalogs leave something to be desired.
If it's your opinion that Luda should be ranked with Method Man then it's my opinion that your opinion is trash... respectfully.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
Even if I was it's a opinion. So what if Ludacris' fans are women. Meth has made tracks for them too lol. Meth's style was really nothing IMO, hence the name Method Man because he could rock ANY style, grimey, club, lyrical, cypher, didn't matter. Luda does his thing for sho, where I rank him I don't know. But definitely like I said before, their catalogs leave something to be desired.
If it's your opinion that Luda should be ranked with Method Man then it's my opinion that your opinion is trash... respectfully.
"where I rank Luda I DON'T KNOW". Respectfully re read what I said
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Method Man>>>>Redman>>>>>Ludacris
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Here to make everyone feel better
Method Man>Ludacris
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Good in a group, good in as a guest, but ouside Tical can't carry an entire LP. And Tical isn't even a top 5 WU solo album. He was a good rapper but people overrate him because he was arguably the most charismatic out of the WU so he was pushed the hardest mainstream wise.
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
SMH... I'm not even a Luda fan but 90% of his fans aren't women, not even close. Do you think before you talk ?
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
SMH... I'm not even a Luda fan but 90% of his fans aren't women, not even close. Do you think before you talk ?
well.. 90% women or 70% women and 20% bitchmade pussies with no taste in music... either way it's the same thing
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
Even if I was it's a opinion. So what if Ludacris' fans are women. Meth has made tracks for them too lol. Meth's style was really nothing IMO, hence the name Method Man because he could rock ANY style, grimey, club, lyrical, cypher, didn't matter. Luda does his thing for sho, where I rank him I don't know. But definitely like I said before, their catalogs leave something to be desired.
If it's your opinion that Luda should be ranked with Method Man then it's my opinion that your opinion is trash... respectfully.
"where I rank Luda I DON'T KNOW". Respectfully re read what I said
yeah, that's why I said... "IF"
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
SMH... I'm not even a Luda fan but 90% of his fans aren't women, not even close. Do you think before you talk ?
well.. 90% women or 70% women and 20% bitchmade pussies with no taste in music... either way it's the same thing
But don't you listen to Eminem?
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I kind of throw Meth and Luda in the same boat. Incredible lyrically but album catalogs leave alot to be desired. 420 was and still is my shit though from Meth.
wtf?.. did you just compare Ludacris to Method Man? Luda's fans are probably 90% female and most of his music is for the clubs. Meth's signature style is that grimey shit. I agree about what you said about his catalog but I just don't think Luda's name deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Meth
Even if I was it's a opinion. So what if Ludacris' fans are women. Meth has made tracks for them too lol. Meth's style was really nothing IMO, hence the name Method Man because he could rock ANY style, grimey, club, lyrical, cypher, didn't matter. Luda does his thing for sho, where I rank him I don't know. But definitely like I said before, their catalogs leave something to be desired.
If it's your opinion that Luda should be ranked with Method Man then it's my opinion that your opinion is trash... respectfully.
"where I rank Luda I DON'T KNOW". Respectfully re read what I said
yeah, that's why I said... "IF"
Hence why I said I am not ranking him. Clear as mud?
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red man is better then meth and has a stronger catalog to show for it.
its hard to compare them because most of there projects intersect but red was a super grimy nigga back in the day...reds first three albums are easily as good as enter the 36 chambers or any of meths joints
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But don't you listen to Eminem?
From 99 till 2004 I think Eminem was easily the greatest rapper alive (I can't defend anything he's done that came out after 2003). And what's your point? That people who like Eminem have no taste in music?
Dre called him the most talented artist he's ever worked with and said that the Marshal Mathers LP was the closest he ever came to making a perfect record. I don't think you can get any stronger endorsement then that. But what do I know and what does Dre know anyway... I mean I guess Ludacris is the greatest rapper ever right?
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Brian, it's 7:30, do you know where your children are? No? Didn't think so
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Brian, it's 7:30, do you know where your children are? No? Didn't think so
why dont u get off the mans nuts, u fuckin faggot?
this thread is about method man, not your man-crush on infinite....gay as fuck, son.
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Lmao, elior can't stand someone else not paying attention to him
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Lmao, elior can't stand someone else not paying attention to him
the quote under your avatar should read "i'm bisexual"...fuckin faggot
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top 30...
number 26 behind odb...
dirty ate every last one of them niggas in the wu...on every song he was ft on...
every song he was on ..on the wu albums..he shitted on em
his solo album..he ate them
i still wanted to hear dirty wreck the triumph beat..
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red man is better then meth and has a stronger catalog to show for it.
its hard to compare them because most of there projects intersect but red was a super grimy nigga back in the day...reds first three albums are easily as good as enter the 36 chambers or any of meths joints
Hell yeah. Been bumpin' a lot of Redman lately, he's in my top 5 East Coast MC's for sure.
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But don't you listen to Eminem?
From 99 till 2004 I think Eminem was easily the greatest rapper alive (I can't defend anything he's done that came out after 2003). And what's your point? That people who like Eminem have no taste in music?
Dre called him the most talented artist he's ever worked with and said that the Marshal Mathers LP was the closest he ever came to making a perfect record. I don't think you can get any stronger endorsement then that. But what do I know and what does Dre know anyway... I mean I guess Ludacris is the greatest rapper ever right?
What I'm saying is that is was mostly young kids and women who were listening to Eminem back then too. Do you think it was all older males that listened to Eminem in that era? You are questioning whether the people have taste when they listen to Eminem, but people who listen to Ludacris are in the same category as Eminem listeners.
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
Meth has 1 shitty album, The Prequel. Luda has several. Not to mention that none of albums stack up to Tical.
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Half of the songs on every Luda album are wack. Then out of the other half, half of them are alright & then the rest are good.
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
Meth has 1 shitty album, The Prequel. Luda has several. Not to mention that none of albums stack up to Tical.
none of ludas albums stack up to tical, i agree. but you are honestly the only person i have ever heard say they like more than one or two method man albums. and youre saying only ONE is shit? backup please. no hate, i really wanna hear u make a case for meths other albums
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What I'm saying is that is was mostly young kids and women who were listening to Eminem back then too. Do you think it was all older males that listened to Eminem in that era? You are questioning whether the people have taste when they listen to Eminem, but people who listen to Ludacris are in the same category as Eminem listeners.
You added the part about "kids", and when it comes to women, yeah Eminem had a lot of female fans but he wasn't making songs targeting young girls in the clubs.
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
Meth has 1 shitty album, The Prequel. Luda has several. Not to mention that none of albums stack up to Tical.
none of ludas albums stack up to tical, i agree. but you are honestly the only person i have ever heard say they like more than one or two method man albums. and youre saying only ONE is shit? backup please. no hate, i really wanna hear u make a case for meths other albums
Have you even listened to his other albums? I still bump Judgement Day and The Day After regularly
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
Meth has 1 shitty album, The Prequel. Luda has several. Not to mention that none of albums stack up to Tical.
none of ludas albums stack up to tical, i agree. but you are honestly the only person i have ever heard say they like more than one or two method man albums. and youre saying only ONE is shit? backup please. no hate, i really wanna hear u make a case for meths other albums
Have you even listened to his other albums? I still bump Judgement Day and The Day After regularly
to each his own brotha 8). heard em all, hate em all (except tical)
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i dont even like luda that much but his catalog is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than method mans. method man has one fucking album. ONE
the rest are so shit they are almost impossible to listen to
Meth has 1 shitty album, The Prequel. Luda has several. Not to mention that none of albums stack up to Tical.
none of ludas albums stack up to tical, i agree. but you are honestly the only person i have ever heard say they like more than one or two method man albums. and youre saying only ONE is shit? backup please. no hate, i really wanna hear u make a case for meths other albums
Have you even listened to his other albums? I still bump Judgement Day and The Day After regularly
to each his own brotha 8). heard em all, hate em all (except tical)
They deserve another listen then. I don't see how you could hate on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGHTWKKHvo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ3Nq-dFLic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJdkaQFcS5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqxPjXUO4X8
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420 from Meth was a dope album as well.
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Judgement day was dope. Just had way too many skits
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meth is always better when he is in the wu
than he is by himself...
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But don't you listen to Eminem?
From 99 till 2004 I think Eminem was easily the greatest rapper alive (I can't defend anything he's done that came out after 2003). And what's your point? That people who like Eminem have no taste in music?
Dre called him the most talented artist he's ever worked with and said that the Marshal Mathers LP was the closest he ever came to making a perfect record. I don't think you can get any stronger endorsement then that. But what do I know and what does Dre know anyway... I mean I guess Ludacris is the greatest rapper ever right?
how fucking dumb can you be... yes, it´s obvious that you hate luda but throwing a bitch fit when someone compares meth´s catalogue with luda shows your true nature. you act like a grown man but the bitch you really are is revealed every time someone disagrees with you
on topic, the guy´s flow was something no one could top back in the day, well, maybe biggie . they would´ve made a great duo album
and meth´s latest album wasn´t bad
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Overrated. I can think of a whole lot of niggas better than him.
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luda is def jams southern answer for method man...thats easy to see.
but luda hasnt sold out as much as meth did by this stage in his career...thats undisputable.
i knew once they did the deodorant commercials neither red nor meth would ever be the same.
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luda is def jams southern answer for method man...thats easy to see.
but luda hasnt sold out as much as meth did by this stage in his career...thats undisputable.
i knew once they did the deodorant commercials neither red nor meth would ever be the same.
It was never possible for Luda to "sell-out" because he never had credibility to begin with. Meth came in with all the credibility in the world.
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how so?
he was independent before he came out on dj and pushed a nice amount of units, he was a known figure in southern hip hop by the time his debut came out...
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Don't talk to infinite dude likes four rappers and hates everyone else.
This is the same guy that called nas's untitled album wack but noted hero and the dong with Chris brown(easily the worst two songs on the album) were the only good songs.
He's already shown his lack of knowledge calling ludas fan base 90 percent female
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luda is def jams southern answer for method man...thats easy to see.
but luda hasnt sold out as much as meth did by this stage in his career...thats undisputable.
i knew once they did the deodorant commercials neither red nor meth would ever be the same.
It was never possible for Luda to "sell-out" because he never had credibility to begin with. Meth came in with all the credibility in the world.
you sure talk a lot of shit for someone who doesnt know anything about anything.
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One of my favorite MC's from the East Coast, but after his first album his albums have been kinda weak.
Sad, but right.
i always hoped his solo albums woulda been better, his albums with red and his albums with wu are dope, then for some reason his solos just cant hold up to those standards, other than his first album
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He's a personal favorite, just wish he put more time into his solo shit.
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This thread is slowly dying...let me revive it.
To answer your question, Infinite..he's good.....but he's no Joe Budden. 8)
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I'll say it out loud (without reading the entire thread ofcourse);
Luda shits on Meth.
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
Because you don't listen to music? lol.
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^no, because morons like u post here
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^no, because morons like u post here
"Morons" (in your book) post in every section. Why you still here at all, hypocrite?
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^no, because morons like u post here
"Morons" (in your book) post in every section. Why you still here at all, hypocrite?
that's a great question...the best uve ever asked in ur entire life.
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^no, because morons like u post here
"Morons" (in your book) post in every section. Why you still here at all, hypocrite?
that's a great question...the best uve ever asked in ur entire life.
That's a terrible answer. But at least opposed to other times you dodge, it's an answer.
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^no, because morons like u post here
"Morons" (in your book) post in every section. Why you still here at all, hypocrite?
that's a great question...the best uve ever asked in ur entire life.
That's a terrible answer. But at least opposed to other times you dodge, it's an answer.
u just dont get it, cuz ure retarded......and most likely gay.
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
One of the reasons why I barely get my post on anymore.
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
One of the reasons why I barely get my post on anymore.
LMAO@ those who didn't get my irony...
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
One of the reasons why I barely get my post on anymore.
LMAO@ those who didn't get my irony...
judging ur post after reading some comments from other posters who post here, that sorta comment isn't out of the norm...
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NIK would be the kind of guy to not actually discuss music by talking music, but bring his Dubcc infamy as a topic of discussion.
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LMAO@the last 2 replies...now i remember why i stopped posting in the music sections
One of the reasons why I barely get my post on anymore.
LMAO@ those who didn't get my irony...
judging ur post after reading some comments from other posters who post here, that sorta comment isn't out of the norm...
Read my post again. The sarcasm and irony is crystal clear.