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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: CharlieBrown on January 12, 2003, 02:24:21 PM
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If it was you executive producing Ra's next album what producers would you have and how many tracks by each, and if any, what guests would you have?
I'd have Dre do 6 tracks BY HIS DAMNSELF, 3 Primo joints, a Dre/Primo joint, 1 or 2 Alchemist joints, maybe Ayatollah for 1, and then have a few Hi-Tek/Dre produced songs and maybe one Pete Rock or Rza joint. I would ideally like to have one guest emcee and that would be Big Daddy Kane cos he's still tight in my opinion and i wanna hear them do a joint together (Just Ryhming With RaKane?).
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If I could do it? No, this is how it should be...
Dre does the whole album...no guest appearences.
You don't see that anymore...Just Dre doing a whole album, last time were heard that was on "2001," but even then we had Mel co-produce and Finesse did one song.
The last time was in '93 for "Doggystyle." Shit that was long ago.
Also, just have 100% Ra...that would be cool. Maybe some people to sing hooks, but that's about it.
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^^^ I'm with that. Ra and Dre can handle it themselves.
10 - 14 tracks. No skits and no intro (maybe one like the Stillmatic or Chronic intro).
This would make the perfect album.
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5 dre tracks
10 premiere tracks
a track with Guru
a track with Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One
a track with Eminem
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id rather see Eric B produce the damn thing..and Rakim bust on it himself...
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Dr.Dre - 12 tracks
DJ Premier - 3 tracks
Alchemist or Ayatollah - 1 or 2 tracks
Guests:
Guru
Golden State
Dr.Dre
Nate Dogg
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If I could do it? No, this is how it should be...
Dre does the whole album...no guest appearences.
You don't see that anymore...Just Dre doing a whole album, last time were heard that was on "2001," but even then we had Mel co-produce and Finesse did one song.
The last time was in '93 for "Doggystyle." Shit that was long ago.
Also, just have 100% Ra...that would be cool. Maybe some people to sing hooks, but that's about it.
Dre didn't do all of "Doggystyle"...Warren and Daz did/helped on some joints without credit...
I'd have it like this...
Dre = 10 cuts
Primo = 2 cuts
Alchemist = 1 cut
Hi-Tek = 1 cut
Guests = Eminem, Dr Dre, Xzibit, and Ras Kass
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production
dre- 8 tracks
primo- 6
alchmist- 2
pete rock- 1
Guest
Nas
Eminem
Cube
an have nate do a hook or 2
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Dr Dre = 6 tracks
DJ Premier = 3 tracks
Kanye West = 2 tracks
DJ Hi-Tek, Havoc, Just Blaze, Megahertz, Pete Rock, Alchemist & Eminem = 1 track
Guests = Mobb Deep, Guru, Freddie Foxx, Nas & 50 Cent
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Producers:
Dr. Dre - 3 tracks
Pete Rock - 3 tracks
Eric B - 3 tracks
Premier - 3 tracks
Guests:
Big Daddy Kane
Kool G Rap
KRS-One
Nas
Guru
And no guests for the hooks.
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Dre
Primo
Alchemist
Large Pro
Guests
Nas
Gza or Deck
and one westcoast rapper (but not xzibit)
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Show me proof that Daz & Warren produced the album.
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Dre - 5 Tracks
Premo - 5 Tracks
Pete Rock - 1 Track
DJ Clark Kent - 1 Track
Alchemist - 1 Track
Kanye West - 1 Track
Eric B- 1 Track
As far as guests, I don't want that many but these would be good:
Guru
Nas
Big Daddy Kane
Kool G Rap
Also, on the tracks that Dre does, I think that they should still get Premo or someone else to do scratched hooks, like Yella did for him on the NWA albums cause this would sound dope, and will certainly be much better than getting singers to do hooks.
Unfortunately Dre is bound to put Truth Hurts on a hook, and we will probably see at least Eminem, if not Cube or 50 Cent as well on this album somewhere. I just hope that just because Dre is on here that Rakim doesn't lose his real NY sound.
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Murrow: are you trying to tell me that Ain't No Fun doesn't sound like a Warren G beat more than a Dre one. Also, even if he didn't fully produce it I think Warren G played a big part in producing Gz and Hustlaz, cause he used exactly the same sample to produce nearly the same beat for 2 Pac & Richie Rich on Lie To Kick It.
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What would be dope but won't happen would be a disk with no guest appearences at all and just Dre and Primo working together to supply the beats, then another disk, a bonus disk if you will, with about 5-6 tracks with guest appearences from the likes of Nas, Guru, Cube, Em, Dre, and each track would have a different producer to give various types of flavas/styles.
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What would be dope but won't happen would be a disk with no guest appearences at all and just Dre and Primo working together to supply the beats, then another disk, a bonus disk if you will, with about 5-6 tracks with guest appearences from the likes of Nas, Guru, Cube, Em, Dre, and each track would have a different producer to give various types of flavas/styles.
Damn, never thought of that. That shit would be dope (but i'd want different guests).
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Producers:
Dr. Dre
Hi-Tek
Guest:
Dr. Dre
Eminem
50 Cent
DMC
;D Kurupt ;D
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im suprised to see not many people bring up eric b...i guess people would rather see dre... :-\
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guests aren't needed on a Rakim album. if he's gonna collab i'd rather see it on the other artists joint, or a soundtrack or something.
so no guests.
you need 2 Primo joints and a Pete Rock joint... as long as Dre brings the heat the rest should be Dre.
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im suprised to see not many people bring up eric b...i guess people would rather see dre... :-\
I thought Eric B is just a DJ now at clubs, thats why him and Ra went their seperate ways cos thats what he wanted and Ra still wanted to make music.
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Murrow: are you trying to tell me that Ain't No Fun doesn't sound like a Warren G beat more than a Dre one. Also, even if he didn't fully produce it I think Warren G played a big part in producing Gz and Hustlaz, cause he used exactly the same sample to produce nearly the same beat for 2 Pac & Richie Rich on Lie To Kick It.
That's your opinion, but to me Dre was the force that guided that album and made it a classic...on the production side.
If they produced such classics then why were they never alble to come close to that success?
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Well I would say that Daz's production on Dogg Food was pretty much up to the same standard as was Warren's on the Twinz Cd and his own first album. All I am saying is that Daz and Warren G played a similar role to say Mel-Man and Scott Storch on 2001, in producing Doggystyle, and therefore you saying that Dre hasn't produced anything himself since Doggystyle was incorrect. I have no doubt that the album wouldn't have been the same without Dre as the head (although the remixes of some of the tracks that Daz did were really tight), but he wasn't the only one there.
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Producers:
Dr. Dre
Hi-Tek
Guest:
Dr. Dre
Eminem
50 Cent
DMC
;D Kurupt ;D
I'm sorry but this is a typical reply from someone who has only just jumped on the Rakim bandwagon now that he is on Aftermath. This guy is the best rapper ever, and therefore has a lot of history attached to him. You can't just bundle on the Aftermath camp to his album, it will spoil his sound completly. If Dre raps on this album he will get absolutely killed by Rakim and it will be a laughable track. And I hardly think that 50 Cent's droanyness will go hand in hand with Rakim's crisp delivery.
You didn't even mention DJ Premier, who for me is someone who is essential to have on the album to at least retain some of Rakim's normal sound from his previous albums.
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id like 8 dre joints, 3 primo joints and 3 large professor joints
oh n apperances a bonus disk with appearances by rass kass, snoop, dre, xzibit, eminem, redman and kane........and y'all gon laugh at me at this, but id like rakim 2 rap on a callobo with michael jackson sumtime 2, cuz i feel rakim can tear a good beat up, like he did on truth hurts joint, but like that probably would neva happen
but they should release the bonus cd like a couple of months afta they release the actual cd so ppl can just judge his actual solo album fairly first,
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Murrow: are you trying to tell me that Ain't No Fun doesn't sound like a Warren G beat more than a Dre one. Also, even if he didn't fully produce it I think Warren G played a big part in producing Gz and Hustlaz, cause he used exactly the same sample to produce nearly the same beat for 2 Pac & Richie Rich on Lie To Kick It.
That's your opinion, but to me Dre was the force that guided that album and made it a classic...on the production side.
If they produced such classics then why were they never alble to come close to that success?
LoL...Buddy...Both Warren and Daz have claimed to have done production on "Doggystyle"...The booklet had no credits, so they never got credited...And they never came close to that succes? Uhhh, Warren G "Regulator"...Tha Dogg Pound "Dogg Food"...LoL...Come on now...PeACe
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guests aren't needed on a Rakim album. if he's gonna collab i'd rather see it on the other artists joint, or a soundtrack or something.
I would of liked to of seen Ra make an appearence on Talib's "Quality" and The Roots' "Phrenology", not only would it of been good publicity for him but I think these are exactly the type of records that suit his attitude and style.
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Murrow: are you trying to tell me that Ain't No Fun doesn't sound like a Warren G beat more than a Dre one. Also, even if he didn't fully produce it I think Warren G played a big part in producing Gz and Hustlaz, cause he used exactly the same sample to produce nearly the same beat for 2 Pac & Richie Rich on Lie To Kick It.
That's your opinion, but to me Dre was the force that guided that album and made it a classic...on the production side.
If they produced such classics then why were they never alble to come close to that success?
LoL...Buddy...Both Warren and Daz have claimed to have done production on "Doggystyle"...The booklet had no credits, so they never got credited...And they never came close to that succes? Uhhh, Warren G "Regulator"...Tha Dogg Pound "Dogg Food"...LoL...Come on now...PeACe
That is the same shit you've been saying, like Dre produced "Multiply" when he didn't. But you insisted that you did even though we showed you the credits and everything. This is the same thing.