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Title: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 09, 2011, 12:36:42 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: D-Nice on June 09, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
And the 2nd would have been well on it's way to platinum as well if the label would not have fell apart. Same with Doggy's Angels. I always thought Dogghouse/Doggystyle had the potential to be one of the illest labels but it never got going to it's full potential.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: bouli77 on June 09, 2011, 01:10:29 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

not that crazy. remember it came out in 2000 with Dre's 2001 bringing back westcoast g-shit to the forefront & the up in smoke tour coming up. i think the up in smoke tour helped that album sell a lot since they were part of that tour. Tha Eastsidaz album basically rode 2001's coattails and capitalized on the Snoop Dogg brand. so the more gangsta, the better. G'd Up's video was a mixture between What's My Name & Still D.R.E. : VIP Records, fine bitches, and lowriders. couldn't go wrong at the time.

what's crazier is how they managed to go gold with their sophomore album while the industry was falling apart and Snoop was taking a turn towards soul-inspired gangsta music that had no real mainstream appeal.

i'm much more amazed at DJ Quik's first album going gold and eventually platinum with little promotion and airplay (at the time radios like Power 106 refused to play him, only stations like KMEL would do so). or
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 09, 2011, 01:12:18 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

not that crazy. remember it came out in 2000 with Dre's 2001 bringing back westcoast g-shit to the forefront & the up in smoke tour coming up. i think the up in smoke tour helped that album sell a lot since they were part of that tour. Tha Eastsidaz album basically rode 2001's coattails and capitalized on the Snoop Dogg brand. so the more gangsta, the better. G'd Up's video was a mixture between What's My Name & Still D.R.E. : VIP Records, fine bitches, and lowriders. couldn't go wrong at the time.

what's crazier is how they managed to go gold with their sophomore album while the industry was falling apart and Snoop was taking a turn towards soul-inspired gangsta music that had no real mainstream appeal.

went gold off one single no less
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: MUHFUKKA on June 09, 2011, 01:37:54 PM
different times
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 09, 2011, 02:06:46 PM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: 3rd Coast on June 09, 2011, 02:09:22 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

i'm much more amazed at DJ Quik's first album going gold and eventually platinum with little promotion and airplay (at the time radios like Power 106 refused to play him, only stations like KMEL would do so). or
u shouldnt ...quik had more promo n airplay than u think...

quik had the box channel...everytime time u turned it on...born n raised, quik is the name, n tonite would follow..ice cube or aerosmith janie got a gun....

if it wasnt from that channel alot of artist would be local jokers...quik, 2nd II none, 2live crew, poison clan and bunch of others...gained fans from a channel that only recognized nuthin but miami music...n was focused on bass...

that channel alone open doors 4 alot of music to not jus the south..but anybody with cable..and each requested song added money to different folks

and other outlets playin his music outside the west coast..he didnt need 106 n kmel...he had the midwest and south behind em...tom joyner and mean green kept quik in rotation russ parr at one point as well..

Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: bouli77 on June 09, 2011, 02:13:02 PM
thanks for the info 3rd coast. makes sense. westcoast (especially bay) artists were selling a lot throughout the Southwest and Midwest in the 90's from what i've gathered.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Hoodlum204 on June 09, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

i'm much more amazed at DJ Quik's first album going gold and eventually platinum with little promotion and airplay (at the time radios like Power 106 refused to play him, only stations like KMEL would do so). or
u shouldnt ...quik had more promo n airplay than u think...

quik had the box channel...everytime time u turned it on...born n raised, quik is the name, n tonite would follow..ice cube or aerosmith janie got a gun....

if it wasnt from that channel alot of artist would be local jokers...quik, 2nd II none, 2live crew, poison clan and bunch of others...gained fans from a channel that only recognized nuthin but miami music...n was focused on bass...

that channel alone open doors 4 alot of music to not jus the south..but anybody with cable..and each requested song added money to different folks

and other outlets playin his music outside the west coast..he didnt need 106 n kmel...he had the midwest and south behind em...tom joyner and mean green kept quik in rotation russ parr at one point as well..


Props To 3rd Coast For Always Dropping That Much Needed Knowledge To School Us.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 09, 2011, 02:50:18 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

i'm much more amazed at DJ Quik's first album going gold and eventually platinum with little promotion and airplay (at the time radios like Power 106 refused to play him, only stations like KMEL would do so). or
u shouldnt ...quik had more promo n airplay than u think...

quik had the box channel...everytime time u turned it on...born n raised, quik is the name, n tonite would follow..ice cube or aerosmith janie got a gun....

if it wasnt from that channel  of artist would be local jokers...quik, 2nd II none, 2live crew, poison clan and bunch of others...gained fans from a channel that only recognized nuthin but miami music...n was focused on bass...

that channel alone open doors 4 alot of music to not jus the south..but anybody with cable..and each requested song added money to different folks

and other outlets playin his music outside the west coast..he didnt need 106 n kmel...he had the midwest and south behind em...tom joyner and mean green kept quik in rotation russ parr at one point as well..


Props To 3rd Coast For Always Dropping That Much Needed Knowledge To School Us.

Word up, always appreciate the posts in the yellow writing
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: 3rd Coast on June 09, 2011, 02:51:54 PM
yep no problem

u will be shocked how the music scene is in the south and the midwest

kmel wasnt playin too short n e-40 music...mean green took care of it

they were shut out for so long...they had to make their own lanes

its still stations in both the midwest n the south thats not ran by clear channel or radio one..citadel n the others...that dont play the same top 20 songs u see on mtv2 or bet..that are major market stations still privately owned

that dont turn down dreams...give em a outlet..and let the listeners choose whats good n whats not...thats how the ugks,mc breeds, doc's, e40s came in the door


its not all peaches n cream tho, u got djs n people that go by the pay to play rule...but its ways to hustle to hustler...
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: PhunkyDoob on June 09, 2011, 03:38:19 PM
the album was straight westcoast g shit, there were no attempt at crossover and appealing to another crowd


if the album was released today it would go double tin foil

i'm much more amazed at DJ Quik's first album going gold and eventually platinum with little promotion and airplay (at the time radios like Power 106 refused to play him, only stations like KMEL would do so). or
u shouldnt ...quik had more promo n airplay than u think...

quik had the box channel...everytime time u turned it on...born n raised, quik is the name, n tonite would follow..ice cube or aerosmith janie got a gun....

if it wasnt from that channel  of artist would be local jokers...quik, 2nd II none, 2live crew, poison clan and bunch of others...gained fans from a channel that only recognized nuthin but miami music...n was focused on bass...

that channel alone open doors 4 alot of music to not jus the south..but anybody with cable..and each requested song added money to different folks

and other outlets playin his music outside the west coast..he didnt need 106 n kmel...he had the midwest and south behind em...tom joyner and mean green kept quik in rotation russ parr at one point as well..


Props To 3rd Coast For Always Dropping That Much Needed Knowledge To School Us.

Word up, always appreciate the posts in the yellow writing

lol 4 real.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: HighEyeCue on June 09, 2011, 03:51:26 PM
those were the days. Back when Snoop would sell 2 million and people would call it a flop.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on June 09, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
i bought both albums back in the day
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Native American on June 09, 2011, 04:37:45 PM
I just recently got my hard copy back from a friends storage and pop'd it in the xbox to burn. great album ! 8)

gangs & word of mouth also got them a lil notice, remember it was nothing to dub a cassette.
I remember my Unc's homie saying that this bitch they knew was dubbing shit from the box and selling it. "thats how she got them exclusives" LMAO now that i think about it, I was about 9 they where 20 or so.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on June 09, 2011, 04:40:53 PM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

WTF???  Napster was huge back then, circa when Tha Eastsidaz dropped.  You did NOT have to go to the store back then.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: crankdemon on June 09, 2011, 05:30:40 PM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

WTF???  Napster was huge back then, circa when Tha Eastsidaz dropped.  You did NOT have to go to the store back then.

still wasnt that popular. i think on average people used limewire bearshare and what not more around 2004-2005. im glad this album went platinum . the industry needs to go back to those days. somebody needs to get smart nd fuk up all piratebay demonoid servers like they did ps3 online and have nobody illegally downloading anything.

then these real rappers can come out with new inspiration n all.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 09, 2011, 06:43:20 PM
Yeah the 2nd one was platinum in the making but snoop gave up on the project

Btw, how much did deuces and trays and tha streetz iz a mutha REALLY sell?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: polepositon on June 09, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
i was just thinking about the box and dj quik videos just the other day. i had pulled up some of his old videos and i swear i was like wow, i havnt seen some of those videos since they were played on the box. lol.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sir Petey on June 09, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
the box was the shit...i loved that channel.


yell
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 09, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
It wasn't really that crazy. It was just the type of music that was popular at the time.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 09, 2011, 07:58:53 PM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

yeah it was before napster was really started.  At the time maybe napster was around, but if it was it was very small.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Gamestarr on June 10, 2011, 01:05:43 AM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

yeah it was before napster was really started.  At the time maybe napster was around, but if it was it was very small.

yeah today everybody and their mother downloads.

They didnt back then.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: bouli77 on June 10, 2011, 01:21:14 AM
Napster was fucking HUGE in 2000, I think that's when they peaked, then they were sued and became a legal downloading outlet and KaZaa took over. People weren't downloading like nowadays but that's when the industry started freaking out. I remember back in '01 there was an Eastsidaz - Deuces & Trayz ad on Napster btw lol.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sir Petey on June 10, 2011, 01:54:30 AM
crips were in style back then.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Dre-Day on June 10, 2011, 06:22:48 AM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

WTF???  Napster was huge back then, circa when Tha Eastsidaz dropped.  You did NOT have to go to the store back then.

still wasnt that popular. i think on average people used limewire bearshare and what not more around 2004-2005. im glad this album went platinum . the industry needs to go back to those days. somebody needs to get smart nd fuk up all piratebay demonoid servers like they did ps3 online and have nobody illegally downloading anything.

then these real rappers can come out with new inspiration n all.
thing is, if you shut down one thing, new sources pop up
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: itzkarl813 on June 10, 2011, 06:44:28 AM
yeah Napster was all over the place in 00-02.... After words I would use WinMX or Soulseek, carefree days..
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: crankdemon on June 10, 2011, 07:15:00 AM


WTF???  Napster was huge back then, circa when Tha Eastsidaz dropped.  You did NOT have to go to the store back then.
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still wasnt that popular. i think on average people used limewire bearshare and what not more around 2004-2005. im glad this album went platinum . the industry needs to go back to those days. somebody needs to get smart nd fuk up all piratebay demonoid servers like they did ps3 online and have nobody illegally downloading anything.

then these real rappers can come out with new inspiration n all.
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thing is, if you shut down one thing, new sources pop up
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fuck outta here/ thats a bullshit ass excuse not to try it. look at google crackin down on spammers makin that shit harder to do. they just need to work fuckin hard and the industry should be putting all theyre money behind it!! unless we're just gonna keep movin on lettin these controversial sellouts to get paid.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on June 10, 2011, 08:32:22 AM
Most albums that went platinum back in the 90's/early 00's wouldn't have went platinum if they were released today.

It's a sign of the times...
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 10, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
Yeah, I was happy to see that the first Eastsidaz album went platinum.  Snoop had really found himself again around 99-2001 and the West Coast had a little bit of a revival during that period.   Xzibit's Restless LP was another album I was really happy to see go platinum during that period. 

Platinum West Coast albums from that time...

Eastsidaz
Xzibit- Restless LP
Snoop-  The Last Meal
Dr. Dre- 2001

what else?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on June 10, 2011, 09:42:33 AM
LOL at the revisionist history that Napster wasn't huge back in 2000.  Dudes, I remember that time because I was around back then.  For instance, before this forum was created, we had this little forum that anyone could post to without a user account that had a black and red color scheme.  It was the precursor to the DubCC forums.  In those days, we were posting about these new songs we were discovering, because we were all basically young and broke high school students back then, and so we used Napster to download individual songs one by one.  In fact, I distinctly remember that's how I first listened to Bow Down for example -- I literally had to find the tracklist and download each song on the album one by one...and I'm sure others did as well.  Everybody in my high school was talking in the hallways about new music they were listening to because Napster enabled them to do so.  That's in fact why there was a bubble in music sales back then, because people were using Napster to discover new music rather than to strictly illegal d.l. and save music.

But anyway, people who say Napster wasn't big back then simply weren't around.  Maybe it wasn't big in Europe -- I know this forum has a lot of Euros these days, but I'm talking about the United States, Napster was huge.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: bouli77 on June 10, 2011, 09:48:11 AM
i'm a proud euro (if there is such thing lol) and i can confirm you that Napster was huge even in our backwards, outdated regions :laugh:
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 10, 2011, 09:50:41 AM
Napster was large and in charge back 11-12 years ago. I remember I used to get all my shit from there before those retards shut it down.

crips were in style back then.
I remember lil redheaded girls with freckles wanted to crip walk back in those days. What happened to kids these days? :'(
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Dre-Day on June 10, 2011, 11:01:13 AM
i'm a proud euro (if there is such thing lol) and i can confirm you that Napster was huge even in our backwards, outdated regions :laugh:
yeah but not many people had fast internet back then
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: 3rd Coast on June 10, 2011, 12:54:27 PM
LOL at the revisionist history that Napster wasn't huge back in 2000.  Dudes, I remember that time because I was around back then.  For instance, before this forum was created, we had this little forum that anyone could post to without a user account that had a black and red color scheme.  It was the precursor to the DubCC forums.  In those days, we were posting about these new songs we were discovering, because we were all basically young and broke high school students back then, and so we used Napster to download individual songs one by one.  In fact, I distinctly remember that's how I first listened to Bow Down for example -- I literally had to find the tracklist and download each song on the album one by one...and I'm sure others did as well.  Everybody in my high school was talking in the hallways about new music they were listening to because Napster enabled them to do so.  That's in fact why there was a bubble in music sales back then, because people were using Napster to discover new music rather than to strictly illegal d.l. and save music.

But anyway, people who say Napster wasn't big back then simply weren't around.  Maybe it wasn't big in Europe -- I know this forum has a lot of Euros these days, but I'm talking about the United States, Napster was huge.

i do too...and i was around back then too..lol...napster was huge...but not like big enough to fuck up album sales..niggas in the hood didnt know shit....about napster...lol

kuz alot people was still on dial up...i remember days it took 4 days to get 1 song from yousendit...got to high school and college fell in love with t1...n discovered mirc on this very board..

Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sir Petey on June 10, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
this forum also introduced me to mirc


thx
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Jimmy H. on June 10, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
Popular music was a different animal back then. There's always a way to get something for free if you look hard enough but the fact is the climate has changed. Everyone has MP3 players and IPod's these days. Even if you still buy physical CD's, nearly anything that's been out for longer than a year, you can probably buy for under $6 on Amazon or E-Bay. The only music outlets that are still around are Best Buy, the Mom & Pop's, and FYE (who seem to be closing stores left and right). BMG and Columbia House use to have individual CD clubs then they merged. Now, they are going out of business at the end of the month. It is a horrible time for the music business.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 10, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
Napster in its prime still didn't make free music as easily accessible as it is now.

Example, if I wanted a snoop album right now all I have to do is go on google and type "snoop dogg doggumentary mediafire" and within a minute I would have a link and withing 5 minutes I'd be extracting the songs to my desktop and burning them onto a disc or adding them to my itunes playlist.

Napster was NEVER that simple.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: BigNeckBone on June 10, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
To this day, still one of my most favorite albums
Eastsidaz always dropped raw, thight, g shit
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: bouli77 on June 10, 2011, 03:48:37 PM
Napster in its prime still didn't make free music as easily accessible as it is now.

Example, if I wanted a snoop album right now all I have to do is go on google and type "snoop dogg doggumentary mediafire" and within a minute I would have a link and withing 5 minutes I'd be extracting the songs to my desktop and burning them onto a disc or adding them to my itunes playlist.

Napster was NEVER that simple.

of course not. only thing I'm saying was Napster was already huge at the time. when it came to piracy we still relied on audio cassettes and people with cd-recorder (it wasn't that common back then lol)

and Dre-day you're spot on, i remember with my 56k internet access, i could only download a song here lol and there while my friends all had faster internet connection lol.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 10, 2011, 10:52:07 PM
LOL at the revisionist history that Napster wasn't huge back in 2000.  Dudes, I remember that time because I was around back then.  For instance, before this forum was created, we had this little forum that anyone could post to without a user account that had a black and red color scheme.  It was the precursor to the DubCC forums.  In those days, we were posting about these new songs we were discovering, because we were all basically young and broke high school students back then, and so we used Napster to download individual songs one by one.  In fact, I distinctly remember that's how I first listened to Bow Down for example -- I literally had to find the tracklist and download each song on the album one by one...and I'm sure others did as well.  Everybody in my high school was talking in the hallways about new music they were listening to because Napster enabled them to do so.  That's in fact why there was a bubble in music sales back then, because people were using Napster to discover new music rather than to strictly illegal d.l. and save music.

But anyway, people who say Napster wasn't big back then simply weren't around.  Maybe it wasn't big in Europe -- I know this forum has a lot of Euros these days, but I'm talking about the United States, Napster was huge.

ummm I have lived my entire life in california and I was born in 1980.  I think you are clearly the one who can't remember things correctly, especially if you got Bow Down off Napster.  Bow Down came out at least 3 years before napster.

Napster was definitely not huge when the Eastsidaz album came out.  Napster was just getting started.  Hell, Hi-speed internet was barely even around in 1999.  Napster was certainly not HUGE.  Yeah people were using it, but nowhere near even close to the amount of things that get downloaded today.  I had high speed internet in 2000/2001 and I used napster.  I remember thinking how I got so much music from it.  In a year I maybe got close to 1000 songs...maybe.  Hell, if I wanted to nowadays I could get 1000 songs in 1 day.  Please stop talking this nonsense about how Napster was huge...that is a joke.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 11, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
well, u know - back in the 90's and early 00's, if u wanted to have music - u had to actually go out n buy a physical record n bring it home.
it was differnet back then. i actually remember those times

WTF???  Napster was huge back then, circa when Tha Eastsidaz dropped.  You did NOT have to go to the store back then.

Pretty sure only college boys were using Napster back then. Most of us were still going to the record stores. Not everyone had their own computer back then, and not everyone had the internet. And even those who did weren't using it to dl all their music. iPods weren't even around. That was when spending that much time on the internet made you a nerd to the rest of us. Nowadays EVERYONE gets their music off the internet, back then cds were still the main way.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 11, 2011, 12:12:35 AM
LOL at the revisionist history that Napster wasn't huge back in 2000.  Dudes, I remember that time because I was around back then.  For instance, before this forum was created, we had this little forum that anyone could post to without a user account that had a black and red color scheme.  It was the precursor to the DubCC forums.  In those days, we were posting about these new songs we were discovering, because we were all basically young and broke high school students back then, and so we used Napster to download individual songs one by one.  In fact, I distinctly remember that's how I first listened to Bow Down for example -- I literally had to find the tracklist and download each song on the album one by one...and I'm sure others did as well.  Everybody in my high school was talking in the hallways about new music they were listening to because Napster enabled them to do so.  That's in fact why there was a bubble in music sales back then, because people were using Napster to discover new music rather than to strictly illegal d.l. and save music.

But anyway, people who say Napster wasn't big back then simply weren't around.  Maybe it wasn't big in Europe -- I know this forum has a lot of Euros these days, but I'm talking about the United States, Napster was huge.

You were a nerd then. I was in high school in 2000 and most of us were still getting cds. Of course we knew about Napster when it came out and made the news, but most of us weren't using it. and hell the ipod wasn't even around yet. The ipod is what really killed albums, because before that everyone had cd players and the whole burning process was too complicated for most people. And internet forums? Lol, I'm just gonna say that the cool kids weren't on the internet sharing music.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2011, 02:48:37 AM
Napster in its prime still didn't make free music as easily accessible as it is now.

Example, if I wanted a snoop album right now all I have to do is go on google and type "snoop dogg doggumentary mediafire" and within a minute I would have a link and withing 5 minutes I'd be extracting the songs to my desktop and burning them onto a disc or adding them to my itunes playlist.

Napster was NEVER that simple.

of course not. only thing I'm saying was Napster was already huge at the time. when it came to piracy we still relied on audio cassettes and people with cd-recorder (it wasn't that common back then lol)

and Dre-day you're spot on, i remember with my 56k internet access, i could only download a song here lol and there while my friends all had faster internet connection lol.
haha yeah dial up sucked.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 11, 2011, 06:56:38 AM
niggas talking about Napster need to remember about dial up.  I was around back then and it was huge, but it took HOURS for most people to download it because vast majority of people were on dial up still, made most people say "fuck it, I'll just buy it"
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: dexter on June 11, 2011, 07:47:19 AM
those were the days. Back when Snoop would sell 2 million and people would call it a flop.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 11, 2011, 08:57:57 AM
hell no - "huge", lol?
just because groups of nerdy highschool-teenagers were downloadin songs from Napster in 2000 and 01, didnt make it "huge"
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Fonky Fresh on June 11, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
Back in those days winmx was the shit.I had to buy 40€  "u.s-import" cd  and 128k mp3's was a must-have lol. The real question is how much did it sell in the u.s and outside the u.s.

Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Dre-Day on June 12, 2011, 01:25:22 AM
hell no - "huge", lol?
just because groups of nerdy highschool-teenagers were downloadin songs from Napster in 2000 and 01, didnt make it "huge"
yeah kazaa was bigger, but once the distorted songs were uploaded, it was over
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 12, 2011, 08:39:26 AM
LOL at the revisionist history that Napster wasn't huge back in 2000.  Dudes, I remember that time because I was around back then.  For instance, before this forum was created, we had this little forum that anyone could post to without a user account that had a black and red color scheme.  It was the precursor to the DubCC forums.  In those days, we were posting about these new songs we were discovering, because we were all basically young and broke high school students back then, and so we used Napster to download individual songs one by one.  In fact, I distinctly remember that's how I first listened to Bow Down for example -- I literally had to find the tracklist and download each song on the album one by one...and I'm sure others did as well.  Everybody in my high school was talking in the hallways about new music they were listening to because Napster enabled them to do so.  That's in fact why there was a bubble in music sales back then, because people were using Napster to discover new music rather than to strictly illegal d.l. and save music.

But anyway, people who say Napster wasn't big back then simply weren't around.  Maybe it wasn't big in Europe -- I know this forum has a lot of Euros these days, but I'm talking about the United States, Napster was huge.

i do too...and i was around back then too..lol...napster was huge...but not like big enough to fuck up album sales..niggas in the hood didnt know shit....about napster...lol

kuz alot people was still on dial up...i remember days it took 4 days to get 1 song from yousendit...got to high school and college fell in love with t1...n discovered mirc on this very board..



Word... 3rd Coast is right.  

In 2,000 albums were still being sold in spite of Napster.  I worked at Camelot music in the Mall my senior year of highschool, and I also used to hang out at Sam Goody and Blockbuster music and browse through all the cd's.  Those days are gone.  Camelot music, Sam Goody, Blockbuster Music all had to close down because they were going bankrupt just a few short years after 00'.  The reason was everybody and their mamma started downloading digitally and people stopped buying albums.  

Back in 2,000 Napster was popular but many people were still on dialup.  And albums were a little bit harder to find on the net.  I remember the Marshal Mathers LP leaked at the end of my senior year in highschool and I was the only one who knew about it and knew where to find it for the first week.  I had one kid with a fast computer burn it all for me, and made him promise he wouldn't do it for anyone else because I didn't believe in illegal bootlegging and I knew I would buy the album when it came out when others wouldn't.  But he still downloaded it for like 100 mutherfuckers at the school.  And he was paid like $5 dollars for those bootlegs.  Nobody would pay $5 dollars in these times because everyone can do it on their own these days.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 12, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
I burned my first mix cd in spring break 2000 titled Beats vol 1.  All i remeber is it had thong song, black rob, big tymers lol.  I went on to make over 30 beats volumes.

All the songs were from napster. I was in college an we had T1 connections, and we just raped the downloading scene. I basically destroyed my comp downloading so much, hella viruses. I can tell u without a doubt napster was in full effect in 2000.

Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on June 12, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
Sooooo... I guess I have to repeat myself for some people....

With Napster in those days, we had to download songs one by one.  I, like many people, except for people in college, was on dialup (in my high school days).  I remember it took me about an hour to download all of Bow Down, because I had to for example individually d.l. "Gangstas Make the World Go Round" -- that would take about 3-5 mins.  Then I would d.l. the next song, etc.  You could also d.l. multiple songs simultaneously, but my computer was a bit too slow to do that.  So it took me about an hour.  I did the same for Twinz's Conversation LP.  Then I would take those songs and burn them to a CD, which also took a while.

I'm not saying Napster hurt music sales.  In fact, I said in my first post that it actually helped sales during the pop bubble of the late 90s/early 2000s, because it increased people's exposure to music at that time.  And I'm not saying it was as convenient as today, but relative to that time, it was convenient, because it provided instant access to music.

And, yes, Napster was huge back then.  Why do you think it was sued?  What, because nobody was using it?  There was a time there in 99/2000 when everybody at my school was using Napster.  Again, I'm from a suburb in NJ -- I don't know what it was like in Europe or in the ghettos where y'all are from  ;)  I can't speak to that because I'm from neither place.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 12, 2011, 11:46:04 AM
It wasn't huge as in everyone's using it. You nerds in nice colleges were using it. The rest of us weren't. Deal with it  ;)
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Sir Petey on June 12, 2011, 11:59:23 AM
the ppl i knew that had it and used it were far and few inbetween back then.

i capatalized and started making cds for $$$$

back then the idea of making your own list of songs and having that burnt to a disc was some groundbreaking shit.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Dre-Day on June 13, 2011, 02:04:16 AM
It wasn't huge as in everyone's using it. You nerds in nice colleges were using it. The rest of us weren't. Deal with it  ;)
yeah, the name napster was well known, but with kazaa the ball really started rolling
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Schreibs21 on June 13, 2011, 08:36:03 AM
Napster was definitely huge back then, I was still in High School and when I 1st started using it I was still on dial-up as well, we did eventually get cable internet not too long after. I was in the same boat with the Marshall Mathers LP, I remember downloading it like a week before it came out and everyone at school was asking for copies. I did take advantage of napster and made mix cd's for people that wanted them and charged them like $5, lol.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 13, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 13, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 13, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.


don't listen to that fat fucker
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 13, 2011, 08:21:53 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.

No it wasn't, as I said, if it were huge then tha eastsidaz would have never gone platinum.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 13, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.


don't listen to that fat fucker

this thread has nothing to do with crooked I, what are  you doing in here?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 13, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.


don't listen to that fat fucker

this thread has nothing to do with crooked I, what are  you doing in here?

good comeback fatboy


go show us those dimes you claim to bang
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 13, 2011, 08:48:40 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.


don't listen to that fat fucker

this thread has nothing to do with crooked I, what are  you doing in here?

good comeback fatboy


go show us those dimes you claim to bang

You are not fooling anyone.  The only pics you want to see are of crooked I.  Fuckin groupie.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 13, 2011, 08:52:45 PM
lmao


so how was your game of 1 on 1 against NIK after driving like 10 hours to fight him?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on June 14, 2011, 07:06:15 PM


Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.

No it wasn't, as I said, if it were huge then tha eastsidaz would have never gone platinum.

True, Napster was some small thing which nobody was using, which is the reason RIAA sued it because they had nothing better to do with their time and money than to sue an obscure Internet application nobody had ever heard of.  ::)
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 14, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
lmao at some dudes returning wit 5 replies back to back, agressively tryin to defend some shit.
fact: napster wasnt "huge" (lol @ word), just let it go n deal wit it. college-students/teenagers doesnt equal a big opposition of the world.
why is it important?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 14, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
You euro crakkkas need to shut your asses up about Napster being huge



was it huge? YES
in what way? Millions of people were using it to DL music
Just like today? NO, because most people were on dial up still and songs had to be downloaded individually people still copped albums because it was a pain in the ass to DL full albums for most people


NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 14, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
You euro crakkkas need to shut your asses up about Napster being huge



was it huge? YES
in what way? Millions of people were using it to DL music
Just like today? NO, because most people were on dial up still and songs had to be downloaded individually people still copped albums because it was a pain in the ass to DL full albums for most people


NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP


"NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP"
--------------------------------
LMAO - emotions is a hard thing to cope wit cuzz
u threw ur keyboard on the floor, right?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 14, 2011, 07:58:39 PM
You euro crakkkas need to shut your asses up about Napster being huge



was it huge? YES
in what way? Millions of people were using it to DL music
Just like today? NO, because most people were on dial up still and songs had to be downloaded individually people still copped albums because it was a pain in the ass to DL full albums for most people


NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP


"NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP"
--------------------------------
LMAO - emotions is a hard thing to cope wit cuzz
u threw ur keyboard on the floor, right?


I'm chilling watching DVR shit with the laptop out, caps =/= real life emotions dummy
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 14, 2011, 08:57:40 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.

No it wasn't, as I said, if it were huge then tha eastsidaz would have never gone platinum.

Artists are still going platinum, so that argument means nothing.  It was huge, Napster was easily one of the biggest stories when it came on the scene. 
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 14, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
You euro crakkkas need to shut your asses up about Napster being huge



was it huge? YES
in what way? Millions of people were using it to DL music
Just like today? NO, because most people were on dial up still and songs had to be downloaded individually people still copped albums because it was a pain in the ass to DL full albums for most people


NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP

All true, easier access to higher speed net and the widespread use of mp3 players was what really pushed downloads over the edge
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 14, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Some people obviously don't understand what "Huge" means.

Obviously Napster wasn't huge back then, as showcased by the title of this thread.  If Napster was huge then the eastsidaz debut album would never have gone platinum.

Itunes is huge.  Napster was not huge.  You can call it revolutionary, but certainly not huge.  Yes, it certainly was a game changer for music, but compared to music downloading today, it wasn't used nearly as much as music gets downloaded these days.

From kids who can't even hardly read all the way up to senior citizens who can barely understand the lyrics to music, Itunes is easily accessible and used.  Napster was primarily only used by college students.

Napster wasn't huge? lol ok.

No it wasn't, as I said, if it were huge then tha eastsidaz would have never gone platinum.

Artists are still going platinum, so that argument means nothing.  It was huge, Napster was easily one of the biggest stories when it came on the scene. 

Yeah, but how many artists are going platinum and how huge are they?  Ask 10 random people today if they know who consists of the Eastsidaz group or if they know who Tray Deee or Goldie loc is.  Then ask them if they know who Eminem, Lil' Wayne, Jay Z, Beyonce, is.

Of course Napster was one of the biggest stories when it came out on the scene.  I'm not disputing that at all.  Napster was revolutionary to the music industry.  what I'm saying is that it wasn't HUGE in the sense that tons and tons of people were using it and getting all their music from there at will (like is done on the Internet today)

Calling Napster huge in that sense would be like calling the Laserdisc huge because it paved the way for the DVD.  Or calling the Betamax huge because it paved the way for the VHS.  Or calling the first electric car huge because it paved the way for the hybrid.

Nowadays, unless you are a total independent artist no one has ever heard of, there is a 99.9% chance that your album will be leaked to the internet anywhere from months to days before it is actually released in stores.  That absolutely NEVER happened with napster.  Sorry guys, but the day that Eastsidaz was released it wasn't on Napster.

It was extremely difficult to find full albums of brand new music on napster.

I used napster to the fullest, downloading a bunch of songs...it got me into a lot of different artists.  I was so into westcoast rap back then...I went to Up in Smoke, I bought Tha Eastsidaz the day it dropped, I checked sites like Snoops dogghouse, DR Untouchable, westcoast 2K, I downloaded rare songs in real audio from the websites.  I used to have the version of Nothin' but the Cavi hit with Ice cube at the end.  You can't tell me that I wasn't around for it, or i didn't know what what going on.  How many of you can say you also did all those things?  And I will just finish with this: Napster wasn't huge in the terms of affecting music sales.  It affected them to a degree, but nowhere near huge.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: acgrundy on June 14, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napster

At its peak Napster had 25 million users.  That is just above 8% of the USA population.  YEAH THAT IS HUGE GUYS!

Haha show me 1 person in the USA alone that doesn't download music, much less the entire world.

25 million people is not even 1/2 of 1 percent of the world population.  And you guys want to call that HUGE?  So if you call that HUGE, then what exactly do you call music downloading today?  Huge to the power of 100?
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: OG Jaydc on June 15, 2011, 01:23:12 AM
It always makes me laugh when people claim album sales don't suffer from the Internet. When 15 years ago going gold was considered a failure for major labels. Now you got people like Rick Ross who's never gone past gold and people claim is a huge artist.

To put everything in perspective consider how huge lil Waynes buzz was during the build up to Carter 3 and lollipop dominating charts. Lil Wayne was the biggest artist on the planet. But guess what? Lil Wayne doesn't even have the highest selling album in cash money history. Juvenile does. Juvenile had maybe a quarter of the buzz back then that Wayne had at that time.
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: V2DHeart on June 15, 2011, 04:50:16 PM
Not hard to believe it went platinum. It was released at a time you could still go on MTV, or any other music channel, and find the groups video on there with Snoop on it, along with other artists. I can remember seeing quiks Pitch in on a Party video a number of times. Music channels actually played music videos, and had dedicated Hip Hop programs. Lyricist lounge etc. Before this white upper class rich kid reality based disease set in, and took over the station. No more celebrity death match, no more Yo raps. No more music videos. The closest you'd get nowadays to hearing an Eastidaz track is hearing a 8 second instrumental while their showing you through a $8 million pad, or showing a little girls $100,000 16th birthday party, and even then, it'd be the likes of Wacka Floka, Trey Songs, or Drake... All imagery fashion rappers.

Dr Dre and anything associated with him at the time got a big boost. Tha Last Meal album, Eminem, even Knock-turnal.

There's no major TV, or radio that plays these videos, or singles. It's all advertisements, and fashion icon singers or rappers, and that's why that Eastsidaz album wouldn't even go gold today
Title: Re: Looking back, it's crazy that Eastsidaz went platinum
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 15, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
It always makes me laugh when people claim album sales don't suffer from the Internet. When 15 years ago going gold was considered a failure for major labels. Now you got people like Rick Ross who's never gone past gold and people claim is a huge artist.

To put everything in perspective consider how huge lil Waynes buzz was during the build up to Carter 3 and lollipop dominating charts. Lil Wayne was the biggest artist on the planet. But guess what? Lil Wayne doesn't even have the highest selling album in cash money history. Juvenile does. Juvenile had maybe a quarter of the buzz back then that Wayne had at that time.

Yeah but 400 Degreez shits on any Wayne album ever, and it's not even close.  So saying that downloading is the only reason is a joke.  People wanna blame downloading, but quality has declined considerably.  So if Wayne is the biggest rap star on the planet, that's a pretty sad state for hip hop.  I have purchased hundreds if not over 1000 cd's, and the amount that I purchase or download has decreased drastically, at least as far as mainstream shit goes.  That's cuz it's all shit.  Mainstream didn't used to always suck.