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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 23, 2011, 11:30:42 PM
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Smooth flow is all Snoop has ever and will ever be. Can we all agree that Rick Ross right now spits better lyrics than (the ghost writers of) Snoopy?
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don't think so...
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don't think so...
Can you come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress?
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In 2011 for sure. To be fair, as soon as Ross blew up, Snoop fell off.
It's kinda hard to judge since they were both in their prime during different eras in hip-hop. Especially being a westcoast lover like I am, I tend to be more partial to Snoop.
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hell yea rozay that nigga he go hard
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Smooth flow is all Snoop has ever and will ever be. Can we all agree that Rick Ross right now spits better lyrics than (the ghost writers of) Snoopy?
If im wrong, i apologize:
Dont you hold the view that all music is subjective?
I think your post might be true. Snoop 2011 has been diluted ALOT by the style and type of beats IMO.
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To be honest i struggle to listen to both of them. Majority of snoops stuff is just straight trash and ross older stuff was garbage tho i do listen to some of his latest stuff. Lyrically Ross is better than Snoop, Roscoe and who ever else writes his shit.
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at the moment ross´ ghostwriters > snoop´s ghostwriters >>>>>> dre´s ghostwriters lol
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I think your post might be true. Snoop 2011 has been diluted ALOT by the style and type of beats IMO.
True words sir.
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Who ever wrote " tighter than the pants on Will.i.am" should be shot, that shit was wack as fuck
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
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has snoop ever been lyrical ? hahahaha WTF is wrong with some of you niggaz :D . his g to whatever to the double whatever is so lyrical :D.
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has snoop ever been lyrical ? hahahaha WTF is wrong with some of you niggaz :D . his g to whatever to the double whatever is so lyrical :D.
and Ross?!?!
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The question isn't Doggystyle or Teflon Don, it's Doggumentary or Teflon Don?
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The question isn't Doggystyle or Teflon Don, it's Doggumentary or Teflon Don?
Teflon Don
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Who ever wrote " tighter than the pants on Will.i.am" should be shot, that shit was wack as fuck
LOL
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In 2011 for sure. To be fair, as soon as Ross blew up, Snoop fell off.
It's kinda hard to judge since they were both in their prime during different eras in hip-hop. Especially being a westcoast lover like I am, I tend to be more partial to Snoop.
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smooth flow, listen to 187um
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TROLL THREAD
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Who ever wrote " tighter than the pants on Will.i.am" should be shot, that shit was wack as fuck
Krondon ;)
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Who ever wrote " tighter than the pants on Will.i.am" should be shot, that shit was wack as fuck
Krondon ;)
Seriously.
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at the moment ross´ ghostwriters > snoop´s ghostwriters >>>>>> dre´s ghostwriters lol
what in the blue hell does dre have anything to do with this thread?
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at the moment ross´ ghostwriters > snoop´s ghostwriters >>>>>> dre´s ghostwriters lol
what in the blue hell does dre have anything to do with this thread?
Because like Ross and Snoop, Dre also uses ghostwriters.
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ok so the title thread is misleading, it should read "Rick Ross' ghostwriter is lyrically better than Snoop Dog's ghostwriter ever was"
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beats carried snoop most of his career ;D now its just his legacy carrying him. this sums up snoops lyrical ability http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ey1vECfPjs :D
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ok so the title thread is misleading, it should read "Rick Ross' ghostwriter is lyrically better than Snoop Dog's ghostwriter ever was"
There's no evidence Ricky has a ghostwriter
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
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Dude rick ross sucks. You guys aren't listening to him, you're listening to his production.
Let's take them in their primes and swap eras; he would be a joke in 93. Doggystyle would still be classic.
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They both completely suck. Neither can rap. Both ride beats.
"SHOE BOX....NO SHOES IN 'EM!"
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LOL @ some fools trying to hint that Snoop is some lyrical genius.
C'mon now! Be real about shit.
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Dude rick ross sucks. You guys aren't listening to him, you're listening to his production.
Let's take them in their primes and swap eras; he would be a joke in 93. Doggystyle would still be classic.
Just like Snoops a joke in 2011. When was the last time snoop released a decent album. He should hang up the mic.
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"SHOE BOX....NO SHOES IN 'EM!"
yeah i wouldn't expect your square ass to get that. hilarious.
in real life Chamella you're a stereotype and i'm not even trying to be funny
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tonedeff's rhymes makes snoop look like waka flocka
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Ross is spittin better than half the rappers in the game right now. Not just Snoop. Snoop need to hook back up with D.O.C.
And Wale, Meek Mill and Pill are some damn good ghostwriters.
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i havent read a Ross album booklet but all of a sudden he cant write his own rhymes now becuz they're good. i swear white people still kill me with that whole Black Man cant do it on his own shit. it's 2011, give it up already.
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"SHOE BOX....NO SHOES IN 'EM!"
that's some trappin' shit, you gotta read between those lines even though they are literally simple, ya dig 8)
but this is one random ass thread, troll success lol
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
The subject of your thread says ross is lyrically better then snoop EVER was and now you wanna back track and say come up with a recent snoop verse as good as devil in a blue dress....if you wanna switch it up n talk about current then yeah snoop fell off but as far as ross being better then snoop EVER was i highly doubt that not to mention im sure a young hungry snoop would probably kill ross in a battle
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tonedeff's rhymes makes snoop look like waka flocka
Real talk right there.
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
The subject of your thread says ross is lyrically better then snoop EVER was and now you wanna back track and say come up with a recent snoop verse as good as devil in a blue dress....if you wanna switch it up n talk about current then yeah snoop fell off but as far as ross being better then snoop EVER was i highly doubt that not to mention im sure a young hungry snoop would probably kill ross in a battle
even a hungry snoop was lyrically weak
Boy it's gettin hot, yes indeed it is
Snoop Dogg is on the mic i'm about as crazy as Biz
Markie, spark the, chronic bud real quick
And let me get into some fly gangsta shit
Yeah, I lay back, stay back in the cut
Niggaz try to play the D-O-G like a mutt
I got a little message, don't try to see Snoop
I'm fin to fuck a bitch, what's her name it's Luke
You tried to see me, on the TV, youse a B.G.
D-O-double-G, yes I'ma O.G.
You can't see my homey Dr. Dre
So what the fuck a nigga like you gotta say
Gotta take a trip to the MIA
And serve your ass with a motherfuckin AK
You, can't, see, the D-O-double-G, cuz that be me
i'm servin um, swervin in the Coupe
The Lexus, flexes, from Long Beach to Texas
Sexist, hoes, they wanna get witht his
Cuz Snoop Dogg is the shit, beeeitch!
Half of his rhymes were spelling out his name. Even in his prime the most clever thing Snoop could come up with was rhyming Texas with sexist :D
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tonedeff's rhymes makes snoop look like waka flocka
Real talk right there.
shit i just calls em like i sees them
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troll success
enough with this "Troll" shit. there's no basis for "trolling", most people just dont care to deliberate day to day or explore every nook and cranny of a person's opinion. u ask me "trolling" is a false term, it makes no sense in real life. you're basically saying that since i didnt follow your every word and make a comment on it then somehow i'm trying sabotage whatever u have to say.... WRONG!
no disrespect to u cuz but that term "troll" just kinda blows me, the shit literally makes no sense or holds any truth in tha grand scheme of things or at all for that matter.
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That people are calling this a troll thread says you actually think Snoop is a lyricist and that's just sad. Snoop has never been lyrical, his smooth flow and entertaining catchphrases fooled you into thinking he was.
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there is a difference between makin good tracks and bein lyrical, Snoop is/was never lyrical, but made good tracks
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rick ross isnt lyrical but makes good tracks
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think about it
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They both completely suck. Neither can rap. Both ride beats.
"SHOE BOX....NO SHOES IN 'EM!"
I thought that line was funny/clever.. do you even know what it means?!
Why are people comparing doggystyle and snoop in 90s? We are talking about nowadays... Rick Ross is def on top..
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It means he keeps his drug money in a shoe box lol. C'mon boys. That's not good.
With that being said, Ross > Snoop.
However, Kreayshawn > Ross > Snoop. #swag
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It means he keeps his drug money in a shoe box lol. C'mon boys. That's not good.
With that being said, Ross > Snoop.
However, Kreayshawn > Ross > Snoop. #swag
it's not just the line, it's how he said it.. his voice and flow are on point.
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I can't deal with that slow, simple nonsense. Matter of taste.
He gets so much credit for being good, yet, in every single song it goes, the beat > the featured hook > the featured verse > the flow > the voice > the mixing > the Ross grunt > the Ross "BAWSE" > his lyrics (which could not even be his own lyrics). I just don't feel rappers like that. It should honestly be in reverse order of what I just said lol.
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It means he keeps his drug money in a shoe box lol. C'mon boys. That's not good.
With that being said, Ross > Snoop.
However, Kreayshawn > Ross > Snoop. #swag
bullshit you didn't even know before we told u. stop being such a fuckin poser for once. u didn't know what he meant, fine, you didn't get it becuz you clearly have never lead that type of life or knew anybody in that situation or clearly havent watched enough hood movies or heard enough rap songs. stop lying just to kick it. u internet crackers get on my fuckin nerves with this shit. be a fuckin man for once and learn how to chill tha fuck out. you're emo and it shows in so many ways.
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I can't deal with that slow, simple nonsense. Matter of taste.
He gets so much credit for being good, yet, in every single song it goes, the beat > the featured hook > the featured verse > the flow > the voice > the mixing > the Ross grunt > the Ross "BAWSE" > his lyrics (which could not even be his own lyrics). I just don't feel rappers like that. It should honestly be in reverse order of what I just said lol.
like i've always said, "white people killed hip hop" on a PR level and "jews stole some of tha soul". none of yall can fester in the vibe all tha way and that whole "music is color blind and universal" cliche' is bullshit; word to Les Nubians and i fuck with them. you obviously dont care too much for Rick Ross and nobody really cares to be honest but saying that dude is wack and lyrically inferior (as u put it) is gay and CLEARLY an uninformed (or whatever the word is) opinion. Ross is that nigga, stop feeding into all of these blogs becuz that's the closest thing you'll ever get to that type of life.
wake up. keep your opinion but stop trying to spread it around to everybody else like u have some sorta point or something. be a leader not a follower.
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^LOL, how mad can your Black ass get? Scroll through the thread, nobody said what it meant. It doesn't take a genius to decipher a Rick Ross line lol.
C'mon, you racist. White people were pushing dope to Blacks before Blacks started pushing it to each other, do your homework, sonny boy.
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^LOL, how mad can your Black ass get? Scroll through the thread, nobody said what it meant. It doesn't take a genius to decipher a Rick Ross line lol.
C'mon, you racist. White people were pushing dope to Blacks before Blacks started pushing it to each other, do your homework, sonny boy.
Columbians were, not White people. In fact everybody else was before white people. why are u talking about the streets. just becuz there have always been crooked ass cops (AND fuckin' CO's) doesn't mean yall were the 1st to do it. take that white power shit somewhere else.
You're mad becuz i called u White (becuz u r), get over it. You ARE white and that's a fact, you aren't from the hood and that's a fact, you just flat out don't like Rick Ross or southern Hip Hop for that matter and that's a fact. stop pretending to be something you're not. in real life you've probably had dreams and fantasies of being African American. you're just like JayDC (literally) you aren't fooling anybody. you can hype it up all u want to but everybody knows. Just except what you won't be in life. Some of us will never be pimps, that doesnt stop us from talking to females everyday, some of us will never be drug dealers, that doesn't stop us from using them, and some of us will never be gangsters, that doesn't stop us from bussin a muthafucka in tha mouth when it's necessary. stop posin and move on already.
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Italian mobsters in the 30's were pushing drugs, dick.
You ever see "American Gangster"? Movie about Frank Lucas. The depict White people shocked that a Black dealer was making bread selling drugs & you're going to tell me Blacks have been selling drugs since day one.
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Italian mobsters in the 30's were pushing drugs, dick.
You ever see "American Gangster"? Movie about Frank Lucas. The depict White people shocked that a Black dealer was making bread selling drugs & you're going to tell me Blacks have been selling drugs since day one.
so now u wanna tell me about Black people? are u really that hurt. fuck Italians, who are they? the Mob hasn't ran shit since they were in their hey days. are u seriously trying to tell me about that? what does that have 2 do with tha fact that YOU (ChamillitaryClick, literally - who stole the whole "literally" thing from me a black guy) didn't know what Rick Ross (a black rapper) was getting at. You're making it worse by not taking the L'. Wow, so the Mob had drugs back then, big gip. Frank took over their shit over. You probably aren't even Italian, you're probably Swedish. don't be so upset becuz you're a wannabe. it's so dumb
cocaine had been around the world and back before it even went inside Coca-Cola. once again you're proving that you're nothing but stereotypical white kid who loves black culture and hip hop too much and more than his own. you'd probably trade your ancestors and family in for a slave family or a boarder jumping family from Mexico.
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there is a difference between makin good tracks and bein lyrical, Snoop is/was never lyrical, but made good tracks
THANK YOU.
Saying Snoop isn't lyrical ain't even a diss towards Snoop. Niggas have put Snoop and a few others on this pedestal as if he can't be touched or assessed for who he is. Snoop made great music in the 90's and early 2000's. I hope he makes more again someday if he can get his shit together.
What's really sad is that any thread that doesn't go with the status quo gets labelled as a "troll thread" and immediately becomes dismissed in the eyes of some simple muthafuckas. The dude who made the thread has made a valid point that had lead to some decent discussion. If that's "trolling" then what is the point of this forum existing?
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Radiotube i think its pretty obvious everybody knew what the shoe box line was about, aint exactly a complex line
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Radiotube i think its pretty obvious everybody knew what the shoe box line was about, aint exactly a complex line
not her tho. she doesn't get alotta shit. i know right, it seems pretty obvious and it is but dude didn't get it and that's why he chose that line of all things. i know what you're trying to get at but not in that bama's case, and i'm just being real.
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Italian mobsters in the 30's were pushing drugs, dick.
You ever see "American Gangster"? Movie about Frank Lucas. The depict White people shocked that a Black dealer was making bread selling drugs & you're going to tell me
Blacks have been selling drugs since day one.
off topic, but blacks were always the ones selling drugs on a street level. You're talking about the ones setting up operations to get the drugs into this country. Higher level shit.
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I'm a west coast rap fan for life but I can agree with the title of this thread. Rick Ross is a better lyricist than Snoop. He's more inventive and more intelligent. He also makes more overall thought provoking and moving songs. "Tears of Joy" and "All the Money in the World" are better than any song in Snoop's entire catalogue, imo.
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troll success
enough with this "Troll" shit. there's no basis for "trolling", most people just dont care to deliberate day to day or explore every nook and cranny of a person's opinion. u ask me "trolling" is a false term, it makes no sense in real life. you're basically saying that since i didnt follow your every word and make a comment on it then somehow i'm trying sabotage whatever u have to say.... WRONG!
no disrespect to u cuz but that term "troll" just kinda blows me, the shit literally makes no sense or holds any truth in tha grand scheme of things or at all for that matter.
aye I actually agree with most of this thread, Rick Ross is better than Snoop right now
but the thread starter made this to ruffle the euros' feathers so I'm not mad at all 8)
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That people are calling this a troll thread says you actually think Snoop is a lyricist and that's just sad. Snoop has never been lyrical, his smooth flow and entertaining catchphrases fooled you into thinking he was.
you're absolutely right, Snoop has never been lyrical like that but don't front like he hasn't had his moments, and his smooth flow is what makes all of his songs no shit thanks for pointing out the obvious :P
but I won't even start with comparing albums between Ross and Snoop cuz that shit's for the birds
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LMAO, i thought only kids listen to rick ross, hes jus a puppet built for mainstream....souljha boy Youuuuuuu ! 8)
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
The subject of your thread says ross is lyrically better then snoop EVER was and now you wanna back track and say come up with a recent snoop verse as good as devil in a blue dress....if you wanna switch it up n talk about current then yeah snoop fell off but as far as ross being better then snoop EVER was i highly doubt that not to mention im sure a young hungry snoop would probably kill ross in a battle
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
The subject of your thread says ross is lyrically better then snoop EVER was and now you wanna back track and say come up with a recent snoop verse as good as devil in a blue dress....if you wanna switch it up n talk about current then yeah snoop fell off but as far as ross being better then snoop EVER was i highly doubt that not to mention im sure a young hungry snoop would probably kill ross in a battle
even a hungry snoop was lyrically weak
Boy it's gettin hot, yes indeed it is
Snoop Dogg is on the mic i'm about as crazy as Biz
Markie, spark the, chronic bud real quick
And let me get into some fly gangsta shit
Yeah, I lay back, stay back in the cut
Niggaz try to play the D-O-G like a mutt
I got a little message, don't try to see Snoop
I'm fin to fuck a bitch, what's her name it's Luke
You tried to see me, on the TV, youse a B.G.
D-O-double-G, yes I'ma O.G.
You can't see my homey Dr. Dre
So what the fuck a nigga like you gotta say
Gotta take a trip to the MIA
And serve your ass with a motherfuckin AK
You, can't, see, the D-O-double-G, cuz that be me
i'm servin um, swervin in the Coupe
The Lexus, flexes, from Long Beach to Texas
Sexist, hoes, they wanna get witht his
Cuz Snoop Dogg is the shit, beeeitch!
Half of his rhymes were spelling out his name. Even in his prime the most clever thing Snoop could come up with was rhyming Texas with sexist :D
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Italian mobsters in the 30's were pushing drugs, dick.
You ever see "American Gangster"? Movie about Frank Lucas. The depict White people shocked that a Black dealer was making bread selling drugs & you're going to tell me
Blacks have been selling drugs since day one.
off topic, but blacks were always the ones selling drugs on a street level. You're talking about the ones setting up operations to get the drugs into this country. Higher level shit.
I'm not saying Blacks weren't in the dope business. It's just Radiotube acts like you have to be Black to understand it; although he said anyone whose White doesn't have the right to speak on Hip Hop lol. But what you said is very true, no hate.
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Radiotube i think its pretty obvious everybody knew what the shoe box line was about, aint exactly a complex line
not her tho. she doesn't get alotta shit. i know right, it seems pretty obvious and it is but dude didn't get it and that's why he chose that line of all things. i know what you're trying to get at but not in that bama's case, and i'm just being real.
Na, you're just mad that you're finally realizing you don't have to be Black to understand how things in Black culture work. You're just depressed over that & in denial. I'll give you your space though.
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The question isn't Doggystyle or Teflon Don, it's Doggumentary or Teflon Don?
Thats crazy!u cant compare a new artist thats still in his prime 2 a artist that been out fo 20 years.u have 2 compare snoop albums that he dropped in his prime 2 rick ross albums.so u have 2 cpmpare doggy style 2 all of rick ross albums.Then compare whatever album rick ross drop in 20 years to doggumentary.thats fair.compare prime from prime & snoop win.snoop was way better when he first came out then rick ross was when he first came out.
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
Like i said.u have 2 compare first albums with first albums.u cant compare snoop a guy that been in the game fo like 20 years 2 a new artist.u have 2 compare snoop when he first came out 2 rick ross & compare whatever album rick ross drop 20 years from now 2 dogumentary.so snoop win.doggy style is better then anything rick ross put out.
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Since when were mainstream artists lyrical?
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Since when were mainstream artists lyrical?
Not underground lyrical. But you can be more complex than these two are.
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Since when were mainstream artists lyrical?
Since the 80s and Rakim?
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
Like i said.u have 2 compare first albums with first albums.u cant compare snoop a guy that been in the game fo like 20 years 2 a new artist.u have 2 compare snoop when he first came out 2 rick ross & compare whatever album rick ross drop 20 years from now 2 dogumentary.so snoop win.doggy style is better then anything rick ross put out.
So you lose then. I knew you couldn't.
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Since when were mainstream artists lyrical?
in 1994/1995 we had 2pac/nas/biggie/GZA/method man all out in the forefront of rap music
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I see people mentioning devil in a new dress for Ross. That verse was off topic and mediocre. What's good about it exactly?
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
Like i said.u have 2 compare first albums with first albums.u cant compare snoop a guy that been in the game fo like 20 years 2 a new artist.u have 2 compare snoop when he first came out 2 rick ross & compare whatever album rick ross drop 20 years from now 2 dogumentary.so snoop win.doggy style is better then anything rick ross put out.
So you lose then. I knew you couldn't.
NO u lose.
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Lookin’ at my bitch I bet she give your ass a bone
Lookin’ at my wrist it’ll turn your ass to stone
Stretch limousine sippin’ Rose all along
Double-headed monster with a mind of his own
Cherry red chariot excess is just my character
All black tux nigga the shoes lavender
I never needed acceptance from all you outsiders
Had cyphers with Yeezy before his mouth wired
Before his jaw shattered climbin’ up the Lord’s ladder
We still speedin’ runnin’ signs like they don’t matter
Uh hater talkin’ never made me mad
Never that when I’m in my favorite papertag
Therefore G4s at the Clearport
When it come to tools fool I’m a Pep Boy
When it came to dope I was quick to export
Never tired of ballin’ so it’s on to the next sport
New Mercedes sedan they’ll export
So many cars DMV though it was mail fraud
Different traps I was gettin’ mail from
Polk County Jacksonville rep Melbourne
Whole clique’s appetite had tapeworms
Spinnin’ Teddy Pendergrass vinyl as my jay burns
I shed a tear before the nights over
God bless the man I put this ice over
Gettin’ 2Pac money twice over
Still a real nigga red Coogi sweater dice roller
I’m makin’ love to the angel of death
Catchin’ feelings never stumble retracin’ my steps
This is whats passing as lyrical?these rhyme schemes are simple as fuck and he doesn't have one single clever line in the entire verse :-X. Oh snap he rhymed over three consecutive times!!!!!! Crown this man!!!!!!
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Lookin’ at my bitch I bet she give your ass a bone
Lookin’ at my wrist it’ll turn your ass to stone
Stretch limousine sippin’ Rose all along
Double-headed monster with a mind of his own
Cherry red chariot excess is just my character
All black tux nigga the shoes lavender
I never needed acceptance from all you outsiders
Had cyphers with Yeezy before his mouth wired
Before his jaw shattered climbin’ up the Lord’s ladder
We still speedin’ runnin’ signs like they don’t matter
Uh hater talkin’ never made me mad
Never that when I’m in my favorite papertag
Therefore G4s at the Clearport
When it come to tools fool I’m a Pep Boy
When it came to dope I was quick to export
Never tired of ballin’ so it’s on to the next sport
New Mercedes sedan they’ll export
So many cars DMV though it was mail fraud
Different traps I was gettin’ mail from
Polk County Jacksonville rep Melbourne
Whole clique’s appetite had tapeworms
Spinnin’ Teddy Pendergrass vinyl as my jay burns
I shed a tear before the nights over
God bless the man I put this ice over
Gettin’ 2Pac money twice over
Still a real nigga red Coogi sweater dice roller
I’m makin’ love to the angel of death
Catchin’ feelings never stumble retracin’ my steps
This is whats passing as lyrical?these rhyme schemes are simple as fuck and he doesn't have one single clever line in the entire verse :-X. Oh snap he rhymed over three consecutive times!!!!!! Crown this man!!!!!!
After reviewing snoop's "classic" lyrics on Doggystyle I couldn't find anything better
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LMAO.snoop still is better then rick tross & its no way rick ross flow could touch the way snoop use 2 rap.
so u saying riick ross albums is better then doggy style? & rick ross rap better then snopp dureing his doggy style days?LMAO.but everybody is entitled 2 they own opion.some one could say a goat rap better then rick ross but it dont mean its a fact.
like I said, come up with a recent Snoop Dogg verse that is better than Ricky on Devil in a New Dress? If you can't you automatically lose.
Like i said.u have 2 compare first albums with first albums.u cant compare snoop a guy that been in the game fo like 20 years 2 a new artist.u have 2 compare snoop when he first came out 2 rick ross & compare whatever album rick ross drop 20 years from now 2 dogumentary.so snoop win.doggy style is better then anything rick ross put out.
So you lose then. I knew you couldn't.
NO u lose.
you've yet to post a single snoop verse. you lose.
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defending that snoop is lyrical is a fail in itself
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Snoop and Ross BOTH suck lyrically. It's like comparing two pieces of shit and arguing which smells worse.Their whole careers are carried by production
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Its not a troll thread, its a WHORE thread. Attention WHORE! Who the fuck listens to Rick Ross?
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I do find it kind of funny that nobody has posted a Snoop verse...
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Its not a troll thread, its a WHORE thread. Attention WHORE! Who the fuck listens to Rick Ross?
A lot more people listen to Ross than Snoop currently, but what is the point of that question? It has nothing to do with whether Ross or Snoop is the better lyricist.
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if snoop OR ross were lyrical beasts, then there wouldnt be no argument
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remember when Rick Ross wrote songs like Poor Young Dave or Murder Was the Case?
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I do find it kind of funny that nobody has posted a Snoop verse...
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The most complex/ best Snoop rhymes you'll get were made in '96 and '97...and those were written by other people. I do think that at that stage of his career, his lyrics (even if written by someone else) were definately more impressive than his flow, which was incredibly soft, lazy and whispered. Mind you, those lyrics weren't mindblowing but better than what he's spat before or since.
To hear what I mean, take tracks like "You Thought", "Dat Whoopty Woop","Only In California". The one title I can think off from that time when he spat both good lyrics and had a good flow is "Downtown Assassins".
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LMAO, i thought only kids listen to rick ross, hes jus a puppet built for mainstream....souljha boy Youuuuuuu ! 8)
and what makes snoop different ?
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These are two very different types of MCs though...
Snoop is all about the way he uses his voice and melody and rhythms which work with the beats he's over... there would be no point in posting a Snoop verse on a message board because words on the screen totally miss what Snoop excels in - which is being all dope with the voice and melody and smooth rhythms. He never does much with the content and his rhyme schemes are simple, because his focus isn't on those things, it's on voice and rhythm.
Rick Ross is almost the opposite, he has very simple rhythms, like he's just talking slowly, but his stuff is mainly trying to do witty content, like a lot of the new MCs today. So you can probably post a Rick Ross rhyme and it will more likely look good on paper because you'll be able to read the cleverness in whichever verse, in a way you can't get with Snoop
Though, for me, Snoop is one the best MCs in his use of voice, melody, and rhythm, along with people like Slick Rick, Method Man, a few others. Within Snoop's style of rapping, he is up there with the best.
Though with Rick Ross I'd say is NOT one of the very best in his style of rapping... there are MCs with way cleverer, wittier lines - Canibus, Chino XL, Jay-Z, Papoose...etc, etc. and that is also partly because SO many MCs do the whole "witty content" thing, so there is much, much more competition in that style.
But the main thing is, you're comparing apples with oranges here, totally different styles of MCing.
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These are two very different types of MCs though...
Snoop is all about the way he uses his voice and melody and rhythms which work with the beats he's over... there would be no point in posting a Snoop verse on a message board because words on the screen totally miss what Snoop excels in - which is being all dope with the voice and melody and smooth rhythms. He never does much with the content and his rhyme schemes are simple, because his focus isn't on those things, it's on voice and rhythm.
Rick Ross is almost the opposite, he has very simple rhythms, like he's just talking slowly, but his stuff is mainly trying to do witty content, like a lot of the new MCs today. So you can probably post a Rick Ross rhyme and it will more likely look good on paper because you'll be able to read the cleverness in whichever verse, in a way you can't get with Snoop
Though, for me, Snoop is one the best MCs in his use of voice, melody, and rhythm, along with people like Slick Rick, Method Man, a few others. Within Snoop's style of rapping, he is up there with the best.
Though with Rick Ross I'd say is NOT one of the very best in his style of rapping... there are MCs with way cleverer, wittier lines - Canibus, Chino XL, Jay-Z, Papoose...etc, etc. and that is also partly because SO many MCs do the whole "witty content" thing, so there is much, much more competition in that style.
But the main thing is, you're comparing apples with oranges here, totally different styles of MCing.
Well said, and I agree completely. I've never considered Snoop lyrical. Hell, most people don't because he isn't. But that's not the only way to be a dope rapper. Ross is lyrically better but that's about where it ends.
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Props for the sloth. What a noble creature!
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what u doing is just as dumb as magic Johnson playing against kobe bryant today.of course kobe a win because magic johnson is pass his prime.u would have 2 compare magic johnson early years to kobe early years.u cant say kobe is better then magic johnson because he could beat him today.thats idiotic.so u have 2 compare snoop early years to rick ross early years.so compare doggy style 2 rick ross albums.& snoop win so he cant be better then snoop untill he put out something that top doggystyle
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Whoa, slow down, chiefy. Magic > Kobe. Ross > Snoop.
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you can probably post a Rick Ross rhyme and it will more likely look good on paper because you'll be able to read the cleverness in whichever verse, in a way you can't get with Snoop
I'm glad you agree that Rick Ross has better rhymes.
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not a stretch, Snoop was all flow and delivery in his prime
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like i've always said, "white people killed hip hop" on a PR level and "jews stole some of tha soul".
Like I've always said... you're a confused child. You are still in your early 20's and think because you have a glimpse of the real world that you understand its complexities. You don't. There's people in their 60's and 70's that are still figuring it out. And it's interesting that you bring up that Jewish comment. Just for the sake of conversation, didn't you create a new user name so you could create some controversy with that Method Man-Pac thread or was that somebody else? And if that shit was somebody else, are you pissed behind them ripping off your style?
none of yall can fester in the vibe all tha way and that whole "music is color blind and universal" cliche' is bullshit; word to Les Nubians and i fuck with them. you obviously dont care too much for Rick Ross and nobody really cares to be honest but saying that dude is wack and lyrically inferior (as u put it) is gay and CLEARLY an uninformed (or whatever the word is) opinion.
Music IS universal and color blind. "Gay" is a description of sexual orientation or by less popular definition, a term for "joy".
wake up. keep your opinion but stop trying to spread it around to everybody else like u have some sorta point or something.
An opinion is supposed to be spread. That's the foundation of free speech. Why come to a public forum if you can't respect that? There's plenty of shit you say that's on some borderline goofy shit but rather than attack your right to say it, I'd rather debate you on its merits. The problem I have with you is you contradict your own supposed philosphies within the same forum you use to spread them. You talk to people as if they are beneath understanding you when in reality, any confusion seems to be created intentionally by you as a way to avoid addressing the conversation as a mature, intelligent adult.
be a leader not a follower.
Case in point. A contradiction within the same paragraph. You tell someone to stop "spreading their opinion" then follow it up by telling them to be a leader.
You continually try to side-step debates by making personal attacks on people and hiding behind race, religion, geographical locations, or any number of other pointless personal traits that have zero to do with the conversation. Instead of pushing toward individual examples of your own intelligence, you want to hide behind the idea that because Chamilitary or whoever you're arguing with is supposedly white and you are "black and from the hood" that you are automatically more capable of seeing the bigger picture. It's embarassing. You put any intelligent black male or anyone for that matter out in a public forum and they will debate the facts and articulate their way of thinking as a way to educate the opposing view. Anyone that is confident of their intelligence will educate those they feel are ignorant, not just point at them and laugh. The fact that you are incapable of dropping said knowledge when the time comes suggests that you have nothing of substance to say.
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Lyrically they're the same in other words pretty lame but Snoop had a great delivery & flow. He's pretty shit now though, he uses the same lazy flow on every song now. It's terrible.
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Officer Ricky is garbage cant stand that fat phony
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If we're gonna match prime-for-prime if ya will, then I'd go with Snoop. However, currently I gotta go with Ross. I don't really see how anyone could argue otherwise, but I've seen stranger arguments here so go ahead and enlighten me lol.
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I once blew a guy in an applebees bathroom
Keep that shit to yourself
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I once blew a guy in an applebees bathroom
Keep that shit to yourself
:D
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Freddy said he , had a hoe ready , down to go steady
and sticc up eddie , for his fetti , and bring it all bacc
to daddy , i want bread , cheese , now put it on the patty
big mac style , sit bacc and flip files , in the virgin iles
listen hear , honey child , bow wow , how ya like it ?
doggystyle , smiling , grinning , sipping on some gin &
roll with a captain , you all strapped in ? from acting to macking
i keeps it crackin "
snoop verse
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Like someone else posted ross's verse on devil in a blue dress wasn't even great it was totally off topic rhymes that were just nothin but rhymes....tell me this spice do you think ross could keep up with a battle against a snoop in his prime?....and if we wanna talk rhymes that keep up with fake ass rick ross how bout imagine or i miss that bitch, murder was the case..songs that actually have stories behind them. How bout whos a bigger poser snoop claimin he a real crip or ross claiming he got hit with charges and moves keys when he was really on the other side of the cell
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SNOOP NEVER HAD LYRICS HE ALWAYS HAD A COLD FLOW!!
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Like someone else posted ross's verse on devil in a blue dress wasn't even great it was totally off topic rhymes that were just nothin but rhymes....tell me this spice do you think ross could keep up with a battle against a snoop in his prime?....and if we wanna talk rhymes that keep up with fake ass rick ross how bout imagine or i miss that bitch, murder was the case..songs that actually have stories behind them. How bout whos a bigger poser snoop claimin he a real crip or ross claiming he got hit with charges and moves keys when he was really on the other side of the cell
True true, very true.