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Title: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 03, 2011, 03:47:20 AM
Interview with OKEJ (Swedish Magazine) on 9-2-96
My Dream Came True

What's gonna be your New Year's promise?

I'll do more exercise! Jan. 1st, I'll start doin' 300 pushups each day.

How many are you doing now?

I can do 300 one day, but then I don't do anymore the next day. I'd really like to do something regularly. And I'd like to be some kinda role model so that the next generation actors, entertainers and...yeah, people in general try to get in better shape. It's important!

What does your acting career give you that the music don't?

Orgasms! I used to think that musicians were the ones that got the most sex, Tupac says and laughs so much that he's falling from his chair. Then Tupac tries to give me a serious answer. That's like askin' a woman what she gets from bein' a mother, that the career can't give her. It's a totally different kinda satisfaction, a different kinda joy, but they are similar, 'cause they're both creative, says Tupac, who feels privileged to be both an actor and a rapper. One night I record a video, next mornin' I'm here makin' a movie....

How do you avoid that your success goes to your head?

The society prevent that from happenin', by puttin' me in jail for a crime I've never committed! It makes you humble...

What do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about your personality?

There are so many... The biggest one is that I'm one-sided.. That's me? I'm born in the gemini... I'm a gemini, young, black, and a Bloods member. I've got many different sides. I'm a communist. I thirst for knowledge. I'm hard to put in a box, so they try to make me look like I'm crazy. That's the biggest misunderstanding 'bout me.

Are there anything from your time in prison that you can use in a positive direction?

Good question. In prison I was demanding to go into bankruptcy. I was just about to do it, when a friend of mine advised me not to, 'cause it would lower my credibility. So, instead I went to court, and won, says Tupac and tells that time, in prison I had nothing. No acting career, no music career, nobody wanted to have nothin' do with me. A rape charge is the worst thing you can get! You get marked. But I knew myself that I hadn't committed the crime I was charged for, so I kept the faith. I didn't commit suicide with an AK, did I? And it felt like God, himself, were holdin' his hand over me when my CD- which was the most expensive someone's ever did this year- sold in 6 million copies. The best sellin' album!! So, the good thing by bein' in jail was this: My "million $ dream" came true, you know what I'm sayin'? It's all that! And it ain't stoppin' yet! Nothin' can stop me now! says Tupac and with a serious expression on his face, he continues with, when you've reached the absolute bottom, like I did, then you're free. Nothin' can hurt me!!

Where do you live now?

Where I live? You mean which country or state? I've got a big house n' good friends down in L.A.

Is Tupac your real name?

My real, starts Tupac and tells about his name, the Patriot Tupac who never gave up. Though, when people ask I never tell without sayin' my name means determined, 'cause I've decided never to start slangin' again. Nobody's gonna gimme their power so that I can live longer, that's why I ain't gonna give mine to nobody either. Instead I just take deep breaths.

Which one's the biggest myth about fame?

That all celebrities wanna be famous. People think that you shouldn't complain if someone comes up to you and rip off your clothes, 'cause as a celebrity you've chose it, says Tupac, who describes himself as down to earth and ordinary.

Do you think you'll get a new audience now that you're making a movie?

The fact that I sold five-six million albums shows that it ain't only black homies from the ghetto, and wiggas that listen to my music. I've got audience everywhere. Both Americans and people outside the USA. I love the Swedish! I've been to Sweden and I loved it!

Are you planning to go on tour?

Yeah, I am!!! Tupac Promised.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Gamestarr on July 03, 2011, 05:25:23 AM
Pics?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Enya on July 03, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
people always twist things he said..

this is what he originally said:

"There are so many, the biggest one is that I’m one-sided. Me, who’s born a gemini! I'm a gemini, young, black, gangsta but I’ve got many different sides, I’m about the community, I’m hungry for knowledge, I’m hard to put in a category, so the ones that try, just say I’m krazy. That’s the biggest mistake ‘bout me."
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 03, 2011, 11:48:27 AM
people always twist things he said..

this is what he originally said:

"There are so many, the biggest one is that I’m one-sided. Me, who’s born a gemini! I'm a gemini, young, black, gangsta but I’ve got many different sides, I’m about the community, I’m hungry for knowledge, I’m hard to put in a category, so the ones that try, just say I’m krazy. That’s the biggest mistake ‘bout me."
LMAO @ them twisting that I'm a Bloods member and I'm a communist. I was particlulary amused by the communist part. It would certainly explain the mentality of a lot folks on this board.
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Post by: Al Bundy on July 03, 2011, 11:51:29 AM
typical psycho hustla thread
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 04, 2011, 12:38:24 AM
that shit didn't even sound right lol ''a bloods member''. Shit sounds like he's referring to a club or costco or some shit
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 04, 2011, 12:57:14 AM
people always twist things he said..

this is what he originally said:

"There are so many, the biggest one is that I’m one-sided. Me, who’s born a gemini! I'm a gemini, young, black, gangsta but I’ve got many different sides, I’m about the community, I’m hungry for knowledge, I’m hard to put in a category, so the ones that try, just say I’m krazy. That’s the biggest mistake ‘bout me."

I Saw That Interview Too But Only After I Made The Thread, I Heard Some1 Talkn Bout That Interview (That I Posted) So There Are 2 "Versions".

This Or That Pac Was Deep Involved And Was Down With Tha MOB Pirus Ain´t No Secret "We Claim Mob, MOB 2 B Specific" ""And stick a needle in my eye if I don't live and die for M.O.B""

Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: dogg krush on July 04, 2011, 04:15:51 AM
Can't see me...Talking abt crips n blood..nigga was.....Sometin like tha.........
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 04, 2011, 04:31:02 AM
Can't see me...Talking abt crips n blood..nigga was.....Sometin like tha.........

what? ???
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: awol22222 on July 04, 2011, 09:07:28 AM
typical psycho hustla thread
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: donsds on July 04, 2011, 11:32:29 AM
people always twist things he said..

this is what he originally said:

"There are so many, the biggest one is that I’m one-sided. Me, who’s born a gemini! I'm a gemini, young, black, gangsta but I’ve got many different sides, I’m about the community, I’m hungry for knowledge, I’m hard to put in a category, so the ones that try, just say I’m krazy. That’s the biggest mistake ‘bout me."

I Saw That Interview Too But Only After I Made The Thread, I Heard Some1 Talkn Bout That Interview (That I Posted) So There Are 2 "Versions".

This Or That Pac Was Deep Involved And Was Down With Tha MOB Pirus Ain´t No Secret "We Claim Mob, MOB 2 B Specific" ""And stick a needle in my eye if I don't live and die for M.O.B""




More than likely refering to "Money Over Bitches". That would have been my first thought even before I heard that song. I agree that Pac hung around Suge and his Blood affiliates but that didn't mean Pac was one of them. People look to much into things. If Pac was apart of the bloods or crips, then you'd know it. I hang around alot of ignorant people, it doesn't mean that Im ignorant. Same thing with people that Im cool with that claim those gangs, still, it does not mean Im in it.

Trust me, if Pac was reppin Bloods/Crips, then he would have clearly said so.....people wouldn't have to dig for clues and add twists on certain quotes of Pac to slightly prove a gang affiliation.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Enigma on July 04, 2011, 04:53:31 PM
Pac was a blood, anyone saying otherwise is in denial that their "lord and savior" actually joined a gang when he was already a multi-millionaire.

MOB tattoo on the outer-arm is the signature tattoo for members of MOB Piru. On Death Row Uncut when he's on the beach with Suge, you can hear him say to Suge "Heyyy blood"

In addition, explain why else Pac would say "You from the South?" to a well-known member of the Southside Crips (MOB Piru enemy) right before proceeding to take off on the dude? The facts are in front of you. Why did Pac never say "MOB" or "Money over Bitches" before joining Death Row? Why would Ice-T check him at the Roseanne Bar show for becoming a blood? And who would say "Stick a needle in my eye if I don't live and die for Money Over Bitches (MOB)"? and "Watch me invite the whole world me and the Money over bitches (MOB) getting married?" - Unless the gang affiliation is attached to those lyrics, they make absolutely no-sense.

The Outlawz, Ice Cube, dozens of other rappers when asked about violence in rap after Pac's murder all said "Pac didn't die over the rap game, Pac died over some street shit."

I'm getting tired of people saying this dude wasn't affiliated during his last year of life, it's pure ignorance.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on July 04, 2011, 06:43:40 PM
Wow equals here really get into it over pac bangin, to b or not to b. lol I personally think folk jere don't want to admit pac joined a gang as an adult with chipper jones, is it kills all that shit they say about lil wayne lol, I guess y'all still got baby to bash since he ain't start rep'n til his late 30's yell
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Enigma on July 04, 2011, 07:58:46 PM
@donsds, what mainstream rapper was repping his gang back then? Some of the most well known gang bang rappers (Snoop, Eazy, etc) weren't saying a word about their true affiliation at the time, wasn't near as
accepted in rap as it is now).
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 05, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
I Agree With Enigma 100% But:

Why He Never Wore That Much Red?

Why He Wasn´t Flaggin At Night While The 96 Shooting Happen?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Maniac Marxxx on July 05, 2011, 09:23:15 AM
Who cares if he was blood or not, ppl on this site need to shut the fuck up and enjoy the music!!!!!
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
I Agree With Enigma 100% But:

Why He Never Wore That Much Red?

Why He Wasn´t Flaggin At Night While The 96 Shooting Happen?
Pac actually did wear red a lot more frequently than before.  Off the top of my head, I remember:

* Pac in the studio on his birthday with the red USA jacket
* Pac outside of the courthouse with Suge while wearing the red shirt on and the black/white/red Nike windbreaker jacket
* Pac wearing the red dress shirt in the How Do U Want It concert version of the video
* Pac wearing the red LA Dodgers hat in the To Live & Die in L.A. video (ironically in a song where he says "Better learn about the dress code, B's and C's")
* Pac with a black and red hockey jersey of some sort in his Rolls-Royce (possibly when they received them)
* Pac in his RR again with a red dress shirt and black vest and dress pants (with the Euphanasia medallion)
* Lots of other candid pictures in the Tupac Resurrection book wearing red (like when he was posing with his mom at someone's house)

And then there's of course the thing that he would sport that all Bloods/Pirus who rolled with Suge would wear too, specifically on fight nights.

But that being said, in all fairness, Pac did still wear blue from time to time, but just less frequently (i.e. blue hockey jersey during the videotaped One Nation recording sessions) compared to red.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: MUHFUKKA on July 05, 2011, 12:08:26 PM
I Agree With Enigma 100% But:

Why He Never Wore That Much Red?

Why He Wasn´t Flaggin At Night While The 96 Shooting Happen?
Pac actually did wear red a lot more frequently than before.  Off the top of my head, I remember:

* Pac in the studio on his birthday with the red USA jacket
* Pac outside of the courthouse with Suge while wearing the red shirt on and the black/white/red Nike windbreaker jacket
* Pac wearing the red dress shirt in the How Do U Want It concert version of the video
* Pac wearing the red LA Dodgers hat in the To Live & Die in L.A. video (ironically in a song where he says "Better learn about the dress code, B's and C's")
* Pac with a black and red hockey jersey of some sort in his Rolls-Royce (possibly when they received them)
* Pac in his RR again with a red dress shirt and black vest and dress pants (with the Euphanasia medallion)
* Lots of other candid pictures in the Tupac Resurrection book wearing red (like when he was posing with his mom at someone's house)

And then there's of course the thing that he would sport that all Bloods/Pirus who rolled with Suge would wear too, specifically on fight nights.

But that being said, in all fairness, Pac did still wear blue from time to time, but just less frequently (i.e. blue hockey jersey during the videotaped One Nation recording sessions) compared to red.
one of the gayest posts i have ever seen
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
Gay because someone asked a question and I answered it?  That makes a lot of sense.
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Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 12:26:23 PM
Gay because someone asked a question and I answered it?  That makes a lot of sense.

Gay because you are writing down every time a rapper thats been dead for 15 years wore a certain color of shirt.

And Physco hustla...did you bust a nut when you thought PAC was a blood?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Gay because someone asked a question and I answered it?  That makes a lot of sense.

Gay because you are writing down every time a rapper thats been dead for 15 years wore a certain color of shirt.
Someone asked a question, and I could answer it because I have this thing called a photographic memory.  Or is that gay too?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
Gay because someone asked a question and I answered it?  That makes a lot of sense.

Gay because you are writing down every time a rapper thats been dead for 15 years wore a certain color of shirt.
Someone asked a question, and I could answer it because I have this thing called a photographic memory.  Or is that gay too?

Yes....especially if you use it to try and determine what gang a rapper is in.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
Gay because someone asked a question and I answered it?  That makes a lot of sense.

Gay because you are writing down every time a rapper thats been dead for 15 years wore a certain color of shirt.
Someone asked a question, and I could answer it because I have this thing called a photographic memory.  Or is that gay too?

Yes....especially if you use it to try and determine what gang a rapper is in.
Let me know where I said the color of Pac's outfit determined what gang he was in.  Oh wait, I didn't.

I can dumb my shit down next time, if it's too gay for you.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Well, you and everyone else knows why you would care to post about him only wearing the colors red, or blue....I notice you didn't post up where he was wearing green from your awesome memory.....Don't kid yourself.  And yes, if you don't mind, please dumb down your posts, as I'm sure you would not want anyone to think you may be pac/gang obsessed like our homie Mob soulja.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 12:54:33 PM
Well, you and everyone else knows why you would care to post about him only wearing the colors red, or blue....I notice you didn't post up where he was wearing green from your awesome memory.....Don't kid yourself.  And yes, if you don't mind, please dumb down your posts, as I'm sure you would not want anyone to think you may be pac/gang obsessed like our homie Mob soulja.
Except no one was asking about him wearing green, as they're not even really common gang colors in California (at least outside of Lime Hood), so your reply is irrelevant.  But if you really must know, I could probably think of times he wore green, like that LA Times photo shoot.

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f35ddbec970b-600wi)

Oh wait, was that gay too?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 01:01:22 PM
Well, you and everyone else knows why you would care to post about him only wearing the colors red, or blue....I notice you didn't post up where he was wearing green from your awesome memory.....Don't kid yourself.  And yes, if you don't mind, please dumb down your posts, as I'm sure you would not want anyone to think you may be pac/gang obsessed like our homie Mob soulja.
Except no one was asking about him wearing green, as they're not even really common gang colors in California (at least outside of Lime Hood), so your reply is irrelevant.  But if you really must know, I could probably think of times he wore green, like that LA Times photo shoot.

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f35ddbec970b-600wi)

Oh wait, was that gay too?

Yes, still gay...but not the real point

The real point is that you wrote about red and blue, because you were referring to the earlier posts about if Pac was a blood or not.  Since no one asked about blue, or any other color for that matter, you choosing to state that in all fairness Pac wore blue too was a direct reference to Crip colors.  You could have picked another color, but you choose to make a point of pointing out blue when no one else did.  Not sure why you are having a tough time understanding that, maybe my posts need to be smarter so I can reach your level?
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Post by: Sikotic™ on July 05, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
2pac is a thug angel. yall need to leave him alone and respect his legacy.

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Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 05, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Yes, still gay...but not the real point

The real point is that you wrote about red and blue, because you were referring to the earlier posts about if Pac was a blood or not.  Since no one asked about blue, or any other color for that matter, you choosing to state that in all fairness Pac wore blue too was a direct reference to Crip colors.  You could have picked another color, but you choose to make a point of pointing out blue when no one else did.  Not sure why you are having a tough time understanding that, maybe my posts need to be smarter so I can reach your level?
Wow, you really missed the point of me posting about him wearing blue?  Think a little harder.  I posted about times he wore red while on Death Row because someone asked when he did because they couldn't recall.  But I specifically pointed out other times also while on Death Row where he wore blue (yes, a reference to Crip colors), which would help counter and neutralize any arguments about him being a Blood purely based on him wearing red at that time.  Does that clarify it better?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 01:07:12 PM

Let me know where I said the color of Pac's outfit determined what gang he was in.  Oh wait, I didn't.

I can dumb my shit down next time, if it's too gay for you.

Ok, I'm letting you know.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: MUHFUKKA on July 05, 2011, 01:53:36 PM
what color ballerina outfit did pac wear?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 05, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
^^ same as your dad
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Ghost Drebin on July 05, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
^^ same as your dad

Hey Hustla. how are the tough streets of Poland today?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: MUHFUKKA on July 05, 2011, 02:18:25 PM
^^ same as your dad
attempted suicide lately?
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Post by: LooN3y on July 05, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
who cares
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: V2DHeart on July 05, 2011, 03:52:11 PM
2Pac wasn't a gangster, and the only affiliation came from his superior who was affiliated.

2Pac is extremely under-rated as an actor. He was an actor first and foremost, even from an early age. Forgetting the blockbuster movies for a second, look at all that hard man image on record and on camera, spittn, screaming thug life. It's just an act. He read a lot, and experienced a lot and was very clever. The real 2Pac was a bit of a nerd like below:

(http://fermat.unh.edu/~mdx8/IMAGES/young-pac.jpeg)
Don't be calling women the "B" word

Anyone who personally knew him say he was soft, kind-hearted, polite and well spoken..
He became Suges mouth piece, repped MOB for him, dissed people for him, with 2pac knowing that with Suge connected with him, he could carve his character into a certain image more easily. He attempted to play the part of a gangster further, and take direct action on stage to make it look more believable, and paid the ultimate price for it
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 05, 2011, 05:59:59 PM
I honestly don't give a fuck either way.  But people thinking Pac got killed over some street shit are wrong.  He was being targeted by the Feds and extorted by the Jews.  He had to link up with people for his own protection.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Enya on July 05, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
I honestly don't give a fuck either way.  But people thinking Pac got killed over some street shit are wrong.  He was being targeted by the Feds and extorted by the Jews.  He had to link up with people for his own protection.

lol..
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: V2DHeart on July 06, 2011, 02:12:56 AM
I honestly don't give a fuck either way.  But people thinking Pac got killed over some street shit are wrong.  He was being targeted by the Feds and extorted by the Jews.  He had to link up with people for his own protection.

That theory may have been believable had he been killed during his 2Paclypse Now/Strictly days where he had created the most controversy. 2Pac had more politicians and public figures against him in those years than any other time in his life.
A lot of people, including music fans in general at the time just thought he was an arrogant loud mouth, and no one really paid much attention to what he had to say besides the minority (black community, die hard fans, critics). He never really broke any barriers down here (UK) until "I Get Around" - a 'party' song, so it wasn't as if he had a global legion of followers hanging on his every 'world changing' insights, and all his main hits over this way were party/club songs - I get around, California Love and so on
 
Besides, in 97 he was planning a collaboration album/compilation, and leaning away from rap, and planning on doing a lot more movies, with roles already lined up and in the works, taking away the opportunity of free speech that he was able to so freely have on records. They could have assassinated his character quite easily with the use of the media. He was on his way back to jail anyway for some time had he not been shot and killed by crips so either way, they wouldn't have had to go to the bother of setting this big scheme up, and he had to link up with people because he's always been that way. Digital Underground, to Thug Life with Richie Rich etc. to The Outlawz, then to Death Row
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Post by: One2free on July 06, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
That interview is real, except the part of him sayin he was blood.


Now, for those who saying he didn't die on some street shit, I don't know why it seems so difficult to admit he really DID die for a bullshit, you know, there's no superman in real life.
If Im sayin everyday, ppl are dying for some BS, or in connection to the street, you likely going to believe it, but not your rapper ?

Damn, he did run on a crip right after a blood did whisper in his ear... I mean you know, like 1+1 = 2, ya dig?
President of USA can be killed, but not Tupac Shakur ?

Somebody on anotha forum did say something like, To LIve & Die in La was the tupac's california love part2. and in this track, he's showing love to LA & str8 mentioning some blood members. That's deep, that's respect & love right here.
I don't know how some of you can not view that as a strong affiliation
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Post by: MontrealCity's Most on July 06, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
This thread is partly why i never come in this section
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Post by: Dre-Day on July 07, 2011, 01:24:57 AM
This thread is partly why i never come in this section
but you keep checking these topics? i don't see you in the good topics
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 07, 2011, 10:14:14 AM
I honestly don't give a fuck either way.  But people thinking Pac got killed over some street shit are wrong.  He was being targeted by the Feds and extorted by the Jews.  He had to link up with people for his own protection.

That theory may have been believable had he been killed during his 2Paclypse Now/Strictly days where he had created the most controversy. 2Pac had more politicians and public figures against him in those years than any other time in his life.
A lot of people, including music fans in general at the time just thought he was an arrogant loud mouth, and no one really paid much attention to what he had to say besides the minority (black community, die hard fans, critics). He never really broke any barriers down here (UK) until "I Get Around" - a 'party' song, so it wasn't as if he had a global legion of followers hanging on his every 'world changing' insights, and all his main hits over this way were party/club songs - I get around, California Love and so on
 
Besides, in 97 he was planning a collaboration album/compilation, and leaning away from rap, and planning on doing a lot more movies, with roles already lined up and in the works, taking away the opportunity of free speech that he was able to so freely have on records. They could have assassinated his character quite easily with the use of the media. He was on his way back to jail anyway for some time had he not been shot and killed by crips so either way, they wouldn't have had to go to the bother of setting this big scheme up, and he had to link up with people because he's always been that way. Digital Underground, to Thug Life with Richie Rich etc. to The Outlawz, then to Death Row

He did die over bullshit, and the people that killed him are quite happy that you believe it was Orlando Anderson or some shit.  There's a reason that it's unsolved.  You need to know that Tupac was a target before he was born because of his Mom's affiliations with the Panthers and many other political prisoners.

Here's the articla talking about him being extorted:


http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2011/04/14/22671481.aspx
AllHipHop News) New documents released by the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) confirm longtime allegations that the Jewish Defense League (JDL) attempted to extort rappers Eazy-E and Tupac Shakur.

The FBI released the documents in response to various Freedom of Information requests for the documents, which until this point had been unreleased.

The new documents claim that members associated with the JDL, which has been labeled a right-wing hate organization, targeted Eazy-E, Tupac Shakur and others with an unsophisticated scheme to dupe the rappers out of cash.

According to the FBI documents, unnamed members of the group would call the rappers and make death threats.

"Subjects then intercede by contacting the victims and offering protection for a fee," the notes read. "The victim and their family are taken to a 'safe haven,' usually a private estate, and are protected by gun-toting body guards associated with the Jewish Defense League."

Former Ruthless Records executive Jerry Heller implied that Eazy-E had respect for JDL in his autobiography, "Ruthless."

According to Heller, Ruthless Records hired Israeli bodyguards to protect the business from Marion "Suge" Knight, who was also allegedly threatening Eazy-E with violence, after Dr. Dre left the record label around 1990.

In "Ruthless," Jerry Heller claimed that Eazy-E liked the JDL so much, that he planned on doing a movie on the organization.

During one office visit Suge Knight allegedly paid to Ruthless Records in the Fall of 1990, Knight warned Heller and Eazy-E to get new bodyguards.

Heller said he hired an Israeli named Mike Klein to head up Ruthless Records' security, since he had a "background in the Israeli security forces."

"The effect was immediate and extreme," according to Jerry Heller. "Somehow, the Suge Knight camp had Klein checked out and realized they were now dealing with a Mossad motherf**ker who didn't fool around. Suge vanished. His crew vanished. An uneasy calm descended."

According to the FBI, after Eazy-E died from complications related to being infected with the AIDS virus, the death threats continued until at least 1996, against Eazy-E's wife and family.

The JDL, which has been labeled a domestic terrorist organization, tried the same tactics with Tupac Shakur, but their efforts allegedly failed.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 07, 2011, 10:14:48 AM
I honestly don't give a fuck either way.  But people thinking Pac got killed over some street shit are wrong.  He was being targeted by the Feds and extorted by the Jews.  He had to link up with people for his own protection.

lol..

???
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 16, 2011, 03:23:31 AM
Some1 School Me On JDL And How They Tried 2 Extort 2Pac And Eric?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 16, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
All that Jewish conspiracy theory Illuminati shit always amuses me.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: awol22222 on July 16, 2011, 09:21:29 PM
All that Jewish conspiracy theory Illuminati shit always amuses me.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 18, 2011, 12:28:11 AM
^^ but it´s still interesting.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Yes, but at the same time it assists in deluding the reality of it for a lot of folks. It sort of gives people permission to fall back on some pretty absurd stuff instead of taking the time to dig a little deeper. It turns into this wild shit about how the Jews in cooperation with the government saw that Pac's music was becoming too powerful so they killed him, blackballed Suge, and are using bullshit music to introduce Satan to modern society.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 18, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
People's denial of facts always amuses me.  Read the link I put up, there's no conspiracy, it's real lmao.






 
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Never denied that the Jewish Defense League existed but the article is specifically vague in their attempted extortion of Shakur so the implication you make that they were directly involved with his murder because of who his mom was and what his family was to the Black Panther movement is a "conspiracy theory". The same way if I point to the existence of Suge Knight and the fact that he extorted Eric Wright and many other rappers to imply he must be responsible in some way for the deaths of Eazy and Pac, it's also a "conspiracy theory". I've heard all kinds of crazy stories about Tupac Shakur, Eric Wright, Dr. Dre, Jerry Heller, Jimmy Iovine, Suge Knight, and all these other dudes but people generally only want to subscribe to what is exciting, romanticized, or sensational. People want to play the "boogeyman" card because it's convient and allows things like logic or motive to take a backseat. How long did countless people overlook the math on Shakur's shooting so they could hold out the great "7-Day theory" as proof that he was still actually alive. Anything involving Pac, specifically on a forum such as this, is tough to discuss because he's become such a larger-than-life mythical figure to so many misguided people who don't realize that just because he was an artist who wrote profound lyrics and spoke with passion that he was still very much as flawed a human being as the next man.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 19, 2011, 07:42:11 AM
Never denied that the Jewish Defense League existed but the article is specifically vague in their attempted extortion of Shakur so the implication you make that they were directly involved with his murder because of who his mom was and what his family was to the Black Panther movement is a "conspiracy theory". The same way if I point to the existence of Suge Knight and the fact that he extorted Eric Wright and many other rappers to imply he must be responsible in some way for the deaths of Eazy and Pac, it's also a "conspiracy theory". I've heard all kinds of crazy stories about Tupac Shakur, Eric Wright, Dr. Dre, Jerry Heller, Jimmy Iovine, Suge Knight, and all these other dudes but people generally only want to subscribe to what is exciting, romanticized, or sensational. People want to play the "boogeyman" card because it's convient and allows things like logic or motive to take a backseat. How long did countless people overlook the math on Shakur's shooting so they could hold out the great "7-Day theory" as proof that he was still actually alive. Anything involving Pac, specifically on a forum such as this, is tough to discuss because he's become such a larger-than-life mythical figure to so many misguided people who don't realize that just because he was an artist who wrote profound lyrics and spoke with passion that he was still very much as flawed a human being as the next man.

First, you should learn to use paragraphs. I had to force myself to read that.

2nd, I didn't question if you thought the JDL was real. You said it was a conspiracy that he was being extorted by them. It's a fact. And if you know anything about Hollywood and the entertainment industry, you would know that it isn't uncommon for extortion to happen even though it isn't talked about (surely these same people don't own the media). These same people also own Vegas.

Since you know all the facts, why don't you tell us why Afeni was up and released from prison while being held in relation to the panther party the NY21 that was gonna blow up some buildings?

And you go on believing the romanticized story that all you wannabe gangstas get all excited about, that he was killed over some gang shit.

2pac was a major threat to the establishment, politicians, police, Jew owned record labels, etc. He was doing albums called one nation and killuminati, and yet most people have no idea what he is even talking about. Way over your head.

Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: awol22222 on July 19, 2011, 07:54:32 AM
Way over your head.
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: DJ ACE CAPONE on July 19, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
Link?
Title: Re: 2Pac Admits He´s A Blood In A Interview
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 19, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
First, you should learn to use paragraphs. I had to force myself to read that.
Thanks for the extra effort.

2nd, I didn't question if you thought the JDL was real. You said it was a conspiracy that he was being extorted by them. It's a fact. 
No, I more implied that the "conspiracy theory" was in that because this group is Isralei they must have killed Tupac as part of some joint co-op mission funded by the government and Jewish-owned record labels.

Since you know all the facts, why don't you tell us why Afeni was up and released from prison while being held in relation to the panther party the NY21 that was gonna blow up some buildings?
Someone obviously must have taught her the secret "Freemason" handshake.

And you go on believing the romanticized story that all you wannabe gangstas get all excited about, that he was killed over some gang shit.
I have no emotional stake in any specific theory regarding his death. I'm open-minded enough to hearing to anyone's theories on the murder, I just don't subscribe to anything that doesn't add up to me.
 
2pac was a major threat to the establishment, politicians, police, Jew owned record labels, etc. He was doing albums called one nation and killuminati, and yet most people have no idea what he is even talking about. Way over your head.
If most people can't read the concept in the concept album, how is he a major threat?