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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on July 10, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
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I just skimmed through the tracklistings of his three albums & I honestly didn't see any song that struck me as "classic".
I love his first two albums. But they are just filled with good songs from top to bottom; hence why they're great albums.
I'm talking classic music. I don't think Game has one. "Start From Scratch", "Put You On The Game", etc. just really dope songs to me, but all-time classics? No shot.
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Actually now that I think about it, some of my favorite Game tracks come from mixtapes.
Personal classic for me is One Night
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Old English is classic for me but some of his mixtape work is also very good
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No. Many high quality songs, but none that have wide enough recognition to be considered classics.
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Hate it or Love it is probably the closest he's got
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No. Many high quality songs, but none that have wide enough recognition to be considered classics.
Mind-boggling truth.
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cham been a subliminal game hater since day 1 ;D
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Hate it or Love it is probably the closest he's got
that and 'How We Do' as a pure club joint. funnily enough the beats & 50 make both records for the most part. nothing else really.
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cham been a subliminal game hater since day 1 ;D
Name me some classics.
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"Dreams"? My personal FAV Game track.
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no...
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cham been a subliminal game hater since day 1 ;D
Haha, pretty much. Everyone has their own opinion of what's considered a classic. That term is used too much. Fuck what other people say is a classic, like what you like. If it's your personal classic, then it's a classic to you.
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I def think "This is How We Do" and "Hate it or Love It" are classic tracks in most people's eyes. For me, tracks like "Da Shit", "Letter to The King", "Angel", "Going in For The Kill" and "This Way" are personal classics.
I'm not convinced he's hit his prime yet when it comes to releasing dope music. With the stuff I've heard Pharrell, Diddy, Snoop, Cool and Dre, and other people say about RED, I'm hoping the best is yet to come.
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"Dreams"? My personal FAV Game track.
I mean, I have no right to say what is & isn't classic to individuals. If it's classic to you, I'm not gunna say it isn't to you.
As for how most Hip Hop fans view it? I don't hear many people talk about how great that song is just out of Game's discography, let alone Hip Hop history.
cham been a subliminal game hater since day 1 ;D
Haha, pretty much. Everyone has their own opinion of what's considered a classic. That term is used too much. Fuck what other people say is a classic, like what you like. If it's your personal classic, then it's a classic to you.
Second person to stamp "hater" & not even name me a classic. Is it because it upsets you Game doesn't have a classic & trying to belittle the person questioning it makes it better? :eh:
Let's say I was the biggest Game hater on the planet, would it change the fact he probably doesn't have a classic song?
Think about it, if I was a Tupac or Eminem hater & made this thread "out of hate", there would be 200 people in here just dropping classics. I think I'm raising an interesting question, regardless of my personal thoughts on Game.
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"Dreams"? My personal FAV Game track.
I mean, I have no right to say what is & isn't classic to individuals. If it's classic to you, I'm not gunna say it isn't to you.
As for how most Hip Hop fans view it? I don't hear many people talk about how great that song is just out of Game's discography, let alone Hip Hop history.
cham been a subliminal game hater since day 1 ;D
Haha, pretty much. Everyone has their own opinion of what's considered a classic. That term is used too much. Fuck what other people say is a classic, like what you like. If it's your personal classic, then it's a classic to you.
Second person to stamp "hater" & not even name me a classic. Is it because it upsets you Game doesn't have a classic & trying to belittle the person questioning it makes it better? :eh:
Let's say I was the biggest Game hater on the planet, would it change the fact he probably doesn't have a classic song?
Think about it, if I was a Tupac or Eminem hater & made this thread "out of hate", there would be 200 people in here just dropping classics. I think I'm raising an interesting question, regardless of my personal thoughts on Game.
Oh, you didn't get what I wrote? I could name off quite a few. But the fact of the matter is, you will just say it's not. So what's the point?
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^Like I said, if this thread was in Pac's name. People would ring off "California Love", "Dear Mama", "Changes", etc. It would be obvious Pac has some indisputable classics.
Hate It or Love It? A mainstream single, that 50 Cent DOMINATED on & wrote for him? On top of that, the hook is the only part that keeps you interested years later. Amazing hook.
Don't get me wrong, great song. Love it. Hip Hop classic? In the same league as all those songs made by rappers Game consistently name drops in his music? Really? I'm sorry, I just disagree.
1. T.R.O.Y.
2. C.R.E.A.M.
3. New York State of Mind
4. Hate It or Love It
5. Stan
Really?
The homie above was like, "Dreams"? With a question mark. I think if you really need to question it, it's a safe bet it probably isn't regarded as a Hip Hop classic.
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^Like I said, if this thread was in Pac's name. People would ring off "California Love", "Dear Mama", "Changes", etc. It would be obvious Pac has some indisputable classics.
Hate It or Love It? A mainstream single, that 50 Cent DOMINATED on & wrote for him? On top of that, the hook is the only part that keeps you interested years later. Amazing hook.
Don't get me wrong, great song. Love it. Hip Hop classic? In the same league as all those songs made by rappers Game consistently name drops in his music? Really? I'm sorry, I just disagree.
1. T.R.O.Y.
2. C.R.E.A.M.
3. New York State of Mind
4. Hate It or Love It
5. Stan
Really?
The homie above was like, "Dreams"? With a question mark. I think if you really need to question it, it's a safe bet it probably isn't regarded as a Hip Hop classic.
So, in your opinion, what makes an album or song, classic?
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I mean, generally classic? I'm not disputing people have the right to call things classic. I think Joe Budden has classics. Xzibit's "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a personal classic. If people don't agree, I can understand why.
However, something that is generally classic is something a large amount of people understand is truly classic. You're not gunna find too many people who will tell you Dre doesn't have two classic albums or Nas doesn't have any classic songs. Basically something that will live on beyond your career. Game doesn't have that. A lot of rappers don't. Game is just one of them.
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No. Many high quality songs, but none that have wide enough recognition to be considered classics.
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300 bars is a classic
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No, he doesn't.
He's capable of making dope songs but that's about it.
Like someone said hate it or love it is close but that's because of 50, 50 wrote an amazing hook and a dope verse. You can take game out of the song and replace him with anyone from g unit and it's just as good( the remix is proof of this) but take 50 off the song and it's not the same
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Better Dayz.
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"The Documentary" from the album The Documentary. Im sure most of you probably wouldnt agree with me but I personally feel the song is a classic. My reasons are because of the song's concept. This was the title track to the album and was meant for one purpose and that was Game's way of telling everyone that his name belongs up there with the greats. The hook is mad play on words tieing Game's all time list of classic albums and throwing his own at the end of the list. Clearly it shows he has a large ego, but for a new artist to make the impact he did as fast as he did I saw it as a bold statement. This is the one Game song I know I will never get tired of hearing.
But on a side note my favorite Game track is one of his early tracks from the Get Low record days with JT Tha Bigga Figga. My all time favorite Game track is "Troublesome" off Untold Story Vol. 2 not to be confused with the one off West Coast Ressurection. "Troublesome" has no hook and seems incomplete but features the best Game verses I have heard to date.
Thats just my two cents.
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nope
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Nope. But it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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"Hate It Or Love It" is a classic, it was one of the biggest hip hop songs of last generation felt by all types of heads. It doesn't if it was basically a 50 Cent song, it was on Games album, so yes, Game has a classic.
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"Hate It Or Love It" is a classic, it was one of the biggest hip hop songs of last generation felt by all types of heads.
just kiddin right?!?! :o
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"Hate It Or Love It" is a classic, it was one of the biggest hip hop songs of last generation felt by all types of heads.
just kiddin right?!?! :o
Not at all. Where I was that track got major burn, whether it was in clubs, parties or whips, heard it everywhere. The underground heads didn't like it cos it was 50, but other than that everyone loved it from what I saw. It was top 10 in multiple countries and was nominated for 2 Grammy's. Song still goes to this day
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I def think "This is How We Do" and "Hate it or Love It" are classic tracks in most people's eyes.
i do too. not a game fan, never listened to any of his albums seriously, don't check for dude's music (unless it features an artist i'm interested in) but I think This is how we do & hate it or love it both fall into the hip-hop classic song category. classic doesn't necessarily mean extremely dope (i can't stand "stan" but i'll never deny its classic status), it can also mean a staple song that marked its time. i think they both did.
300 bars is also a classic to me for the impact it made in the industry at the time. not to mention it was dope.
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The Game joints I keep going back to years later, so imo are classics to me are;
Start from Scratch
This is How We Do
Don't Worry
Higher
State of Emergency
Let Us Live
Spanglish
And one of my favourite songs of all time California Vacation
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Only song that could come close is of course Hate It Or Love it. Then you got I Don't Need Your Love, Start From Scratch, Dreams and a few others that I would say are "classics to me".
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I def think "This is How We Do" and "Hate it or Love It" are classic tracks in most people's eyes.
classic or liking it?
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@Jaydc
Remember game did a completely solo version of hate it or love it and it was still crack. And if I recall, the rest of g-unit (namely banks and yayo) sounded horrible on the remix
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What about Hard Liquor?
I loved that he brought it back on L.a.x. with that skit.
No but anyways, you meantion you consider Joe Budden a classic, but in the same reply you say that something generally considered a classic is when a majority would share the opinion.
Where I live, NOBODY I know listens to Joe Budden except for his best tracks back in the day. So that would mean your view of something classic is also your own opinion.
To me a classic is not just about the songs, but also the persona and the label. Game has made such an impact on the hiphop community when he came out on Aftermath, it's just like back in the day when Death Row was pushing artists.
Game wasn't only everywhere with his singles, he did a unique thing with those anti g-unit mixtapes.
He had some weak mixtapes but I get the feeling he's gonna be back.
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biggest mistake of games career was not making an amazing video for Higher. That shit is still a perfect summer/club/banging track.
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Hate it or Love it is probably the closest he's got
that and 'How We Do' as a pure club joint. funnily enough the beats & 50 make both records for the most part. nothing else really.
those would be the only ones. if anything, dude is nothing without dre and 50, and thats old news.
i always thought he was a very average rapper, and he is, the only time he shines is when he spits fast.
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to me
Letter to the king
Why you hate the game
one night
300 bars
this way
dreams
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to me
Letter to the king
Why you hate the game
one night
300 bars
this way
dreams
........... how old are you 12?
in no which way or form are those classics, LOL 300 BARS? lol their not even close to being classics. wow
we had this before, but dude has nothing classic, mayb in 4 years theyll consider how we do or hate it or love it, but no, dude is nothing special
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Hate it or love it and How we do are def classics to me.
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I would consider "Start from Scratch" "Dreams" and "Hate It or Love It" to be classics. Just my opinion, but I think they rise to that level. I don't think anyone is ever going to completely agree on what constitutes "classic" though.
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i'm 20...to me yes 300 bars is classic. You see what he did with that, he had radio stations spining that diss record. Interscope put a halt on it telling stations to stop playing it. It was the hot topic in summer of 2005, Game had everyone talking about it. I know plenty of people that/ have heard it and just said damn this is ill. Game was at his best on 300 bars. One night is timeless to me, dude went straight from the heart on some personal shit he was going through at the time. That beat and hook bangs harder than any Dre track that he ever gave game. Nottz really came with it on that. This way is a newer track that I've really thought was some ill shit from Game. Maybe not classic but one of hs better tracks he's dropped in a long time. Game and Nas is classic one of my favorite collabs in hip hop. So hate on me for that its my opinion Hustlers, Why you hate the game, Letter to the king. Every time the two have collabed its been some hot shit. But when they go with some deep shit, like the 2 tracks i mentioned, its hard to hate on those tracks
to me
Letter to the king
Why you hate the game
one night
300 bars
this way
dreams
.......... how old are you 12?
in no which way or form are those classics, LOL 300 BARS? lol their not even close to being classics. wow
we had this before, but dude has nothing classic, mayb in 4 years theyll consider how we do or hate it or love it, but no, dude is nothing special
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I'd say How We Do and Put You on the Game are the most likely out of his catalog to be considered classics plus I still bump those from time to time, maybe Hate It or Love It also. Everything else (i.e. Dreams, It's Okay/One Blood, Wouldn't Get Far, Dope Boys, etc.) pretty much died out shortly afterward. Just my opinion.
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Personal classic for me is One Night
Yeah that's my favorite track of his.
Hate It Or Love It may be the only track that he made that may have been a classic, but 50 did all the heavy lifting anyways.
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i rather take countless top album cuts and many many tight mixtape tracks than 1 classic track.....games mixtapes are better than other peoples whole cds
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Dude how is 300 bars not classic? 6 years later and I'm still amazed at that shit. Everyone thought game was ja rule jr or atleast gonna get bitched like jadakiss when he left. But instead he single handedly ruined 50's rein of terrorizing the industry. In the midst of the crunk era this dude had 300 bars (a 15 minute diss track) getting regular spins on the radio. Do me a favor and name 1 other rapper that could pull that shit off. Don't worry ill wait...
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^How do you listen to that song more than twice?
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^ why do you post on this forum?
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To me a classic is not just about the songs, but also the persona and the label. Game has made such an impact on the hiphop community when he came out on Aftermath, it's just like back in the day when Death Row was pushing artists.
That's a no to the question.
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http://www.youtube.com//v/FjYQvYk0i7g
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runnin...imo yayo wrecked that bitch
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Hell Naw, The Game Is A Mixtape Artist!!!
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Dont think he has any classics no. I do think he has some really dope songs tho. My fav game songd are
Put You On The Game
Bang Along
Where I'm From (YKWII 4)
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I'd say "Hate It Or Love It" is a classic.
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Hate it or love it
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^ why do you post on this forum?
Obviously not to ride Game's dick & call a 20 minute rambling session a "classic" Hip Hop song.
Son is talking like "300 Bars" is indisputable. That's mind-blowing considering it wasn't even for an album, so how the popular recognition would be there is crazy to me lol.
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Bethoven's symphony no.9 is a classic. rappers had only hit songs. none of them had classics... they're entertainers... not artists ;)
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Dude how is 300 bars not classic? 6 years later and I'm still amazed at that shit. Everyone thought game was ja rule jr or atleast gonna get bitched like jadakiss when he left. But instead he single handedly ruined 50's rein of terrorizing the industry. In the midst of the crunk era this dude had 300 bars (a 15 minute diss track) getting regular spins on the radio. Do me a favor and name 1 other rapper that could pull that shit off. Don't worry ill wait...
....... 300 bars is no where near classic. its a dope track, one of my fav diss/ game tracks, but im not too much of a game fan and never was, i actually disliked game cuz he was in g-unit with that east coast post 2001 g-unit sound. but i grew into it, but i give props when its due, and he hasnt contributed much at all. what documentary was his only relevant album.
i liked doctors advocate and LAX, dont get me wrong, but their no where near classic or legend level nor are any of the tracks.
Classics : Nuthin But A G Thang, Let Me Ride, Whats My Name, Life Goes On, Hit Em Up, Boyz N Tha Hood, Real Muthafuckin G's, Doggy Dogg World, Regulate, etc etc (u guys know what i mean)
something of that caliber, and 300 bars is no where near them.
classic needs to define the rapper, what their famous for their identity, how we do and hate it or love it is game.
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^ why do you post on this forum?
Obviously not to ride Game's dick & call a 20 minute rambling session a "classic" Hip Hop song.
Son is talking like "300 Bars" is indisputable. That's mind-blowing considering it wasn't even for an album, so how the popular recognition would be there is crazy to me lol.
dog, you can't put a 20 minute song on an album. As an interscope artist you also can't clear a song for an album dissing a label mate let alone using all those beats lol I do think Game over satuated hip hop fans with g unit disses which makes some people forget about 300 bars. IMO Game should have dropped 300 bars and maybe 2 other records. Instead he continued to diss them even as far as 2008 and put out numerous mixtapes. Classic diss record yes.....song? maybe not. The song caught enough buzz to be played back to back at radio stations when it first came out, it was huge.
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agreed, but game as an MC is known as a controversial artist surrounded by beef. 300 bars was a problem at the time.
Dude how is 300 bars not classic? 6 years later and I'm still amazed at that shit. Everyone thought game was ja rule jr or atleast gonna get bitched like jadakiss when he left. But instead he single handedly ruined 50's rein of terrorizing the industry. In the midst of the crunk era this dude had 300 bars (a 15 minute diss track) getting regular spins on the radio. Do me a favor and name 1 other rapper that could pull that shit off. Don't worry ill wait...
....... 300 bars is no where near classic. its a dope track, one of my fav diss/ game tracks, but im not too much of a game fan and never was, i actually disliked game cuz he was in g-unit with that east coast post 2001 g-unit sound. but i grew into it, but i give props when its due, and he hasnt contributed much at all. what documentary was his only relevant album.
i liked doctors advocate and LAX, dont get me wrong, but their no where near classic or legend level nor are any of the tracks.
Classics : Nuthin But A G Thang, Let Me Ride, Whats My Name, Life Goes On, Hit Em Up, Boyz N Tha Hood, Real Muthafuckin G's, Doggy Dogg World, Regulate, etc etc (u guys know what i mean)
something of that caliber, and 300 bars is no where near them.
classic needs to define the rapper, what their famous for their identity, how we do and hate it or love it is game.
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agreed, but game as an MC is known as a controversial artist surrounded by beef. 300 bars was a problem at the time.
Dude how is 300 bars not classic? 6 years later and I'm still amazed at that shit. Everyone thought game was ja rule jr or atleast gonna get bitched like jadakiss when he left. But instead he single handedly ruined 50's rein of terrorizing the industry. In the midst of the crunk era this dude had 300 bars (a 15 minute diss track) getting regular spins on the radio. Do me a favor and name 1 other rapper that could pull that shit off. Don't worry ill wait...
....... 300 bars is no where near classic. its a dope track, one of my fav diss/ game tracks, but im not too much of a game fan and never was, i actually disliked game cuz he was in g-unit with that east coast post 2001 g-unit sound. but i grew into it, but i give props when its due, and he hasnt contributed much at all. what documentary was his only relevant album.
i liked doctors advocate and LAX, dont get me wrong, but their no where near classic or legend level nor are any of the tracks.
Classics : Nuthin But A G Thang, Let Me Ride, Whats My Name, Life Goes On, Hit Em Up, Boyz N Tha Hood, Real Muthafuckin G's, Doggy Dogg World, Regulate, etc etc (u guys know what i mean)
something of that caliber, and 300 bars is no where near them.
classic needs to define the rapper, what their famous for their identity, how we do and hate it or love it is game.
lol controversial rapper? dude had the gayest beefs in the history of the rap game, in a time a diss track hardly means anything, nobody gives a shit about diss tracks nevertheless battling, the last diss track/beef that was even relevant enough to destroy ones career was ja rule n eminem.
not to knock on game i like him as rapper but, first of all his rap beef was over some publicity shit, and niggas a goddamn weirdo, he aint no "real g" and he doesnt keep it real (opbviously from the shit he does and all the stupid ignorant shit he says) nigga talks like a fucking 14 yr old that just go put on the hood, he doesnt talk like no "og" that he claims to be.
and its a known face dude was playing street fighter 3rd strike and basketball at uc irvine or riverside (i forget) all day n all night, and THEN at age waht? 20or 21 he joins black wall street. dudes a fake gangsta and its not even hard to see,. u can tell by how this dude acts like. lol all that "interviews" of his childhood is bullshit, to get money but niggas too dumb to realized back then that shit wasnt gonna sell.
he acts like a straight wanksta like my god, if he were to be UR friend acting like that, ud be embarrassed to kick it with him or to be out with him in public.
i know it went kinda off topic, but controversial is hardly the way id put it, more like lil whiny drama queen faggot, cuz thats basically how he presented himself with that whole thing.
lol MC, id hardly say game is a true MC. dude name drops so much it should officially be "his style of rapping"
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Calling 300 Bars a classic diss track...understandable.
Putting it among great songs...not a shot.
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200 Bars Was The Best One To Me But Still That Is More Of A Mixtape Track Instead Of A Classic!!!
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I'd call Hate it or Love it and Dreams classics.
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Hate it or Love it is probably the closest he's got
that and 'How We Do' as a pure club joint. funnily enough the beats & 50 make both records for the most part. nothing else really.
forgot about How We Do, I guess its not classic :D
IMO those 2 are the only tracks Game has made that there could be an argument for
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The only two game songs that can be even discussed as being classic are basically 50 cent songs ft game lol
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Calling 300 Bars a classic diss track...understandable.
Putting it among great songs...not a shot.
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I mean, generally classic? I'm not disputing people have the right to call things classic. I think Joe Budden has classics. Xzibit's "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a personal classic. If people don't agree, I can understand why.
However, something that is generally classic is something a large amount of people understand is truly classic. You're not gunna find too many people who will tell you Dre doesn't have two classic albums or Nas doesn't have any classic songs. Basically something that will live on beyond your career. Game doesn't have that. A lot of rappers don't. Game is just one of them.
Well, if that's the case, then we shouldn't be having this conversation because he still has a career. I would think that a person's discography should be revisited after atleast 10 years before the "classic" title is placed on it.
And even with the title, does that make you like the song/cd more because everybody else thinks it's a classic?
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300 Bars was cool, but it was no classic.
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Hell Naw, The Game Is A Mixtape Artist!!!
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I mean, generally classic? I'm not disputing people have the right to call things classic. I think Joe Budden has classics. Xzibit's "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a personal classic. If people don't agree, I can understand why.
However, something that is generally classic is something a large amount of people understand is truly classic. You're not gunna find too many people who will tell you Dre doesn't have two classic albums or Nas doesn't have any classic songs. Basically something that will live on beyond your career. Game doesn't have that. A lot of rappers don't. Game is just one of them.
Well, if that's the case, then we shouldn't be having this conversation because he still has a career. I would think that a person's discography should be revisited after atleast 10 years before the "classic" title is placed on it.
And even with the title, does that make you like the song/cd more because everybody else thinks it's a classic?
True, but if those songs aren't even highly regarded 5 years later I doubt they'll suddenly become classic in 10. Music gets less relevant over time, not more. Game's 2 biggest songs were popular radio singles, but there's a difference between the many radio hits that come out and the songs that people actually remember. Game's music falls into the category of having to play it for your friend and him going "oh yeah I remember that. that was dope", as opposed to a classic song that gets brought up in music discussions for its memorability.
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Hate it or Love it is probably the closest he's got
yeah, and i usually skip the song after 50´s verse tho i don´t like dude that much lol
game is corny as hell, but he has some good songs .
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Yeah, really. If you're going to say "How We Do" is classic, you have to say mainstream singles like "In Da Club" & "Lean Back" are classic lol.
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I mean, generally classic? I'm not disputing people have the right to call things classic. I think Joe Budden has classics. Xzibit's "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a personal classic. If people don't agree, I can understand why.
However, something that is generally classic is something a large amount of people understand is truly classic. You're not gunna find too many people who will tell you Dre doesn't have two classic albums or Nas doesn't have any classic songs. Basically something that will live on beyond your career. Game doesn't have that. A lot of rappers don't. Game is just one of them.
Well, if that's the case, then we shouldn't be having this conversation because he still has a career. I would think that a person's discography should be revisited after atleast 10 years before the "classic" title is placed on it.
And even with the title, does that make you like the song/cd more because everybody else thinks it's a classic?
i dont think age should do anythign about determining a classic, IMO none are in games catalog.
if you compare the other classic westcoast tracks, they were influencing the game, changing the game, it was new.
game was riding on a dieing post chronic 2001 g-unit sound with 50's basically last couple relevant apperances. dude did nothing to deserve a classic nor is any of his material.
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Yeah, really. If you're going to say "How We Do" is classic, you have to say mainstream singles like "In Da Club" & "Lean Back" are classic lol.
Those songs could easily be considered classics
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Yeah, really. If you're going to say "How We Do" is classic, you have to say mainstream singles like "In Da Club" & "Lean Back" are classic lol.
Those songs could easily be considered classics
I'd say in da club is a classic. Still gets played in clubs to this day. Lean Back not so much.
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All great songs, no classics.
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Yeah, really. If you're going to say "How We Do" is classic, you have to say mainstream singles like "In Da Club" & "Lean Back" are classic lol.
Those songs could easily be considered classics
I'd say in da club is a classic. Still gets played in clubs to this day. Lean Back not so much.
In da club is definitely a classic, just like hate it or love it. If these two aren't considered modern day classics I don't know what is.
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considering you can turn on the radio and hear hate it or love it to this day or how we do, which i have and almost quite often, for how long ago that was i guess those really gotta be his classic records. His fan base will share their songs they consider classics but to the hip hop world its gotta be those 2
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you'd have to be a fucking retard to say in da club aint a classic. That shit gave the hip hop game a boost for a good minute. Y'all probably never hit puberty back then to realise the flavour of the joint.
Go shaawwty its your birrthday lol
As for game, he got 5/5 joints, but nothing you could say is an ALL TIME CLASSIC. He got classic joints in terms of modern day great joints, dreams, hate it or love it (cringe, hate that shit), put you on the game, how we do, one blood (this strictly for niggaz tho) and album cuts which are 5/5 joints...but an all time classic...naa
But how many cats have?
;-)
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You guys seem to be forgetting the impact "How We Do" had....
It was the first time Dre had made a Westcoast beat for a Westcoast artist other than himself in 6 years. It was the first time an artist had charted a top single on the Westcoast other than Snoop and Dre in god knows how long....
Game had so much hype around him prior to the singles being released, and this single only validated the hype he was receiving prior to that from his mixtape appearances and being signed to Aftermath. This song was heard everywhere, and got people talking about the Westcoast again. Not to mention, it's one of Dre's cleanest beats to date (in my opinion). Sure Dre had made some recent hits prior to that, but they all went to Eminem and 50 Cent. This was a time when Dre went back to his roots and had an artist in the booth yelling "Compton" and "Westside" on tracks, and was still getting national play and spins, sales, everything you can expect from a single.
It's one of those songs that comes on in the club 6 years later, and EVERYONE will groove to it like it just came out.
I think all of the above reasons without a doubt makes "How We Do" a classic.
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How we do is a 50 cent song that he allowed game to use. Let's be real. It's a 50 song. Same with hate it or love it.
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It doesn't matter - it's Game's song, and when people hear it, people think of Game and the Westcoast. It sounds like a Westcoast track, it doesn't sound like a NY track.
50 didn't add anything to the song that Game didn't already bring to the table. It's not like 50's verse killed Game's or anything.
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50 wrote the hook and had his verses done already. Game just threw his verses on because 50 wanted to promote his new artist. Game was replaceable on the song. Without him the songs a hit. Without 50 the song doesn't exist.Game didn't bring anything to the table whatsoever. These are facts. Only the biggest game stans can't admit it.Even games verse was just a play on 50s verse. 50 made those songs what they were
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Turn on the radio & hear it? I haven't heard Hate It or Love It on the radio since the summer it came out. Let's calm down.
Maybe "In Da Club" is a classic. It's easily a personal classic to me. I just didn't think it was regarded so highly by other Hip Hop fans.
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Turn on the radio & hear it? I haven't heard Hate It or Love It on the radio since the summer it came out. Let's calm down.
Maybe "In Da Club" is a classic. It's easily a personal classic to me. I just didn't think it was regarded so highly by other Hip Hop fans.
I dont listen to the radio maybe once a month and i hear how we do whenever i do listen to the radio, gets good rotation i'm willing to bet that record gets a good amount of spins still.
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50 wrote the hook and had his verses done already. Game just threw his verses on because 50 wanted to promote his new artist. Game was replaceable on the song. Without him the songs a hit. Without 50 the song doesn't exist.Game didn't bring anything to the table whatsoever. These are facts. Only the biggest game stans can't admit it.Even games verse was just a play on 50s verse. 50 made those songs what they were
50 should have kept those songs for himself. Even Game said that lol.
Nah I agree, 50 and Game made a great tandem together on records. It's crazy the buzz that album had around it because and I know I am gonna catch heat for this but I'm built for it, the Documentary is HIGHLY OVERRATED.
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i'm from LA and till this day if they throw on "hate it or love it" or 'how we do' in the club, people react...so at the very least i would call them classic party/club songs(in the same vain of a 'in the club' or 'aint no fun' although not nearly as respected), at least in this region of the country....
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You guys seem to be forgetting the impact "How We Do" had....
It was the first time Dre had made a Westcoast beat for a Westcoast artist other than himself in 6 years. It was the first time an artist had charted a top single on the Westcoast other than Snoop and Dre in god knows how long....
Game had so much hype around him prior to the singles being released, and this single only validated the hype he was receiving prior to that from his mixtape appearances and being signed to Aftermath. This song was heard everywhere, and got people talking about the Westcoast again. Not to mention, it's one of Dre's cleanest beats to date (in my opinion). Sure Dre had made some recent hits prior to that, but they all went to Eminem and 50 Cent. This was a time when Dre went back to his roots and had an artist in the booth yelling "Compton" and "Westside" on tracks, and was still getting national play and spins, sales, everything you can expect from a single.
It's one of those songs that comes on in the club 6 years later, and EVERYONE will groove to it like it just came out.
I think all of the above reasons without a doubt makes "How We Do" a classic.
i fail to hear why How we do has a west coast sounding beat
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You guys seem to be forgetting the impact "How We Do" had....
It was the first time Dre had made a Westcoast beat for a Westcoast artist other than himself in 6 years. It was the first time an artist had charted a top single on the Westcoast other than Snoop and Dre in god knows how long....
Game had so much hype around him prior to the singles being released, and this single only validated the hype he was receiving prior to that from his mixtape appearances and being signed to Aftermath. This song was heard everywhere, and got people talking about the Westcoast again. Not to mention, it's one of Dre's cleanest beats to date (in my opinion). Sure Dre had made some recent hits prior to that, but they all went to Eminem and 50 Cent. This was a time when Dre went back to his roots and had an artist in the booth yelling "Compton" and "Westside" on tracks, and was still getting national play and spins, sales, everything you can expect from a single.
It's one of those songs that comes on in the club 6 years later, and EVERYONE will groove to it like it just came out.
I think all of the above reasons without a doubt makes "How We Do" a classic.
i fail to hear why How we do has a west coast sounding beat
the keys on the beat are very west coast ish
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You guys seem to be forgetting the impact "How We Do" had....
It was the first time Dre had made a Westcoast beat for a Westcoast artist other than himself in 6 years. It was the first time an artist had charted a top single on the Westcoast other than Snoop and Dre in god knows how long....
Game had so much hype around him prior to the singles being released, and this single only validated the hype he was receiving prior to that from his mixtape appearances and being signed to Aftermath. This song was heard everywhere, and got people talking about the Westcoast again. Not to mention, it's one of Dre's cleanest beats to date (in my opinion). Sure Dre had made some recent hits prior to that, but they all went to Eminem and 50 Cent. This was a time when Dre went back to his roots and had an artist in the booth yelling "Compton" and "Westside" on tracks, and was still getting national play and spins, sales, everything you can expect from a single.
It's one of those songs that comes on in the club 6 years later, and EVERYONE will groove to it like it just came out.
I think all of the above reasons without a doubt makes "How We Do" a classic.
i fail to hear why How we do has a west coast sounding beat
the keys on the beat are very west coast ish
fair enough.
the drums not so much
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I remember the hype around "Higher" when it first leaked. Everybody was going nuts over that record. Dre even had that line "Look out for Detox" on there. The Game was the one who'd resurrect the west coast. He sort of did. Many rappers that are being talked about now (on this forum at least) were put on by Game or with his help.
A few days after "Higher" "Fresh '83" (anyone? :)) leaked, which I didn't like much, but it got many great responses. A little bit later they put out "Westside Story" with Snoop (or 50, I'm not sure) and that got a very negative response initially. I admit, it grew on me too.
I wish they didn't tweak the "Higher" song a little bit for the retail version, but it's still one of the greatest songs in west coast hip hop IMO. It's a personal classic for me because:
1. it's simply a great song.
2. it started a hype that lasted till after "Doctor's Advocate".
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You guys seem to be forgetting the impact "How We Do" had....
It was the first time Dre had made a Westcoast beat for a Westcoast artist other than himself in 6 years. It was the first time an artist had charted a top single on the Westcoast other than Snoop and Dre in god knows how long....
That's all well and good but this is something only dubcc nerds will think about. How many people who know the song know or care about any of that? How many people even know its a Game song? To most people its probably just one of 50's smaller hits.
It's one of those songs that comes on in the club 6 years later, and EVERYONE will groove to it like it just came out.
Haven't heard this in the club since it was popular. It's not a club staple. It was a throwaway single from his album.
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Turn on the radio & hear it? I haven't heard Hate It or Love It on the radio since the summer it came out. Let's calm down.
Maybe "In Da Club" is a classic. It's easily a personal classic to me. I just didn't think it was regarded so highly by other Hip Hop fans.
I dont listen to the radio maybe once a month and i hear how we do whenever i do listen to the radio, gets good rotation i'm willing to bet that record gets a good amount of spins still.
Now you're just making shit up to support your argument. "Frisco living" huh? I'm from the bay and I listen to our rap stations, that song doesn't get play and hasn't since the year it came out.
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I remember the hype around "Higher" when it first leaked. Everybody was going nuts over that record. Dre even had that line "Look out for Detox" on there. The Game was the one who'd resurrect the west coast. He sort of did. Many rappers that are being talked about now (on this forum at least) were put on by Game or with his help.
A few days after "Higher" "Fresh '83" (anyone? :)) leaked, which I didn't like much, but it got many great responses. A little bit later they put out "Westside Story" with Snoop (or 50, I'm not sure) and that got a very negative response initially. I admit, it grew on me too.
I think "Westside Story" with 50 was the first song from that came out from the album. I remember bumpin' that shit ages ago. It was premiered on Aftermathmusic.com if i remember right. I can't remember it gettin' negative response either, but i might be wrong. I remember that "How We Do"/"Fresh '83" and "Hate It Or Love It"/"Envy Me" were both premiered on DubCNN though.
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"Old Englsih"
"One Night"
"Never Be Friends"
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I remember the hype around "Higher" when it first leaked. Everybody was going nuts over that record. Dre even had that line "Look out for Detox" on there. The Game was the one who'd resurrect the west coast. He sort of did. Many rappers that are being talked about now (on this forum at least) were put on by Game or with his help.
A few days after "Higher" "Fresh '83" (anyone? :)) leaked, which I didn't like much, but it got many great responses. A little bit later they put out "Westside Story" with Snoop (or 50, I'm not sure) and that got a very negative response initially. I admit, it grew on me too.
I think "Westside Story" with 50 was the first song from that came out from the album. I remember bumpin' that shit ages ago. It was premiered on Aftermathmusic.com if i remember right. I can't remember it gettin' negative response either, but i might be wrong. I remember that "How We Do"/"Fresh '83" and "Hate It Or Love It"/"Envy Me" were both premiered on DubCNN though.
You may be right about Westside Story actually... but I remember Higher being Game's first Dre produced song that came out ???
Higher definitely came out before How We Do though and that was the song that got 'internet folks' hyped about The Game. People loved it when he said "it's that Compton Compton Compton Compton..."
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Turn on the radio & hear it? I haven't heard Hate It or Love It on the radio since the summer it came out. Let's calm down.
Maybe "In Da Club" is a classic. It's easily a personal classic to me. I just didn't think it was regarded so highly by other Hip Hop fans.
I dont listen to the radio maybe once a month and i hear how we do whenever i do listen to the radio, gets good rotation i'm willing to bet that record gets a good amount of spins still.
Now you're just making shit up to support your argument. "Frisco living" huh? I'm from the bay and I listen to our rap stations, that song doesn't get play and hasn't since the year it came out.
106 kmel...usually during the day where they will throw some throwback tracks on. I've only heard it during the day and why would i make some stupid shit like that up
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I remember the hype around "Higher" when it first leaked. Everybody was going nuts over that record. Dre even had that line "Look out for Detox" on there. The Game was the one who'd resurrect the west coast. He sort of did. Many rappers that are being talked about now (on this forum at least) were put on by Game or with his help.
A few days after "Higher" "Fresh '83" (anyone? :)) leaked, which I didn't like much, but it got many great responses. A little bit later they put out "Westside Story" with Snoop (or 50, I'm not sure) and that got a very negative response initially. I admit, it grew on me too.
I think "Westside Story" with 50 was the first song from that came out from the album. I remember bumpin' that shit ages ago. It was premiered on Aftermathmusic.com if i remember right. I can't remember it gettin' negative response either, but i might be wrong. I remember that "How We Do"/"Fresh '83" and "Hate It Or Love It"/"Envy Me" were both premiered on DubCNN though.
lol i hated all of it at first. i was a game hater to the max, sooner or later i gave in, lol.
i guess u can consider some tracks a classic, but dude was basically a one hit wonder in terms of an album.
u can consider those tracks classic like you consider "ghetto jam" or "i wish i was a baller" classic, imo not a legendary classic like chronic etc etcd
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I actually think it has a lot to do with Game not really being original & his lyrics being weak for the most part. I think the name dropping really hurt him.
Then again, going by my theories on Hip Hop, if The Documentary or Doctor's Advocate came out in the 90's, they would probably be regarded as a classics. They were just 10+ years late lol.
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I actually think it has a lot to do with Game not really being original & his lyrics being weak for the most part. I think the name dropping really hurt him.
Then again, going by my theories on Hip Hop, if The Documentary or Doctor's Advocate came out in the 90's, they would probably be regarded as a classics. They were just 10+ years late lol.
maybe, but game wouldnt of had dre beats unless he signed to deathrow and i dont see deathrow tarnishing their establishment by signing a very weak rapper in game when deathrow was in its prime.
name dropping hurt his whole career and image indefinitely, imo i just try to say its just games style to refrain myself from hating a decent song just because he name drops so much.
and yes game is anything but original, thats why i really dont think he deserves any of his songs to be a classic. but i mean if anything were, id say how we do, hate it or love it, or westside story.
i mean when u think of game u usually think of those tracks, but imo far from classics
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This question all comes down to what's a classic? I would say for 1, it had to have a significant impact in the game, or at least big enough to be remembered. Next, it would had to have been felt by the majority of fans, even to this day. And lastly, some will disagree, but I think it would have to actually move units and be known outside of the world of rap. And for that reason, Hate It Or Love It is the closest thing Game has, and personally I would consider it classic. Let's not forget though, i'd say 99% of people who weren't in the know, thought that was a 50 Cent song.
And to that fool who said Beethoven is classic, rap is just entertainment, you are a fuckin moron. Let me guess, you used to listen to rap, then grew out of it as you got older and it got worse, now you listen to "real" music, right? Music not for kids and teens, right? I see people like you all the time, and straight up, people like you are a disgrace to music. Let me guess, you also used to wear XL tees and now wear V-necks because you grew up? I talk to industry dudes all the time and the vast majority of them have great respect for the history of hip-hop, and still do. So fuck off with that egotistical bullshit, you flavor-of-the-month faggot.
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Yeah, like somebody said, the G-Unit Remix to that is just as good as the OG.
This question all comes down to what's a classic? I would say for 1, it had to have a significant impact in the game, or at least big enough to be remembered. Next, it would had to have been felt by the majority of fans, even to this day. And lastly, some will disagree, but I think it would have to actually move units and be known outside of the world of rap.
Yeah, but going by those criteria, Lil' Wayne's "Lollipop" is a near classic lol.
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Sure it was known, and moved units, but is actually considered by most people I know as one of the worst songs in the history of hip hop (can't deny that). It also had absolutely no impact on rap (aside from being one of the lowest points in it's history). I'd say, had that song been considered great by fans (and no i'm not talking 13 year old rich girls), and had been in some sort innovative/had an impact on the game, then maybe it would be classic. But that track actually fits the bill for worst songs of all time in my book.
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Old English
Angel
One Night
Remedy
Why You Hate The Game
No More Fun And Games
Don't Need Your Love
just to name a few.
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I actually think it has a lot to do with Game not really being original & his lyrics being weak for the most part. I think the name dropping really hurt him.
Then again, going by my theories on Hip Hop, if The Documentary or Doctor's Advocate came out in the 90's, they would probably be regarded as a classics. They were just 10+ years late lol.
But if those albums came out in the 90s, what would Game be rapping about? His entire career is based on reminiscing about the 90s, namedropping the artists from that time and reusing their lines and phrases. Game in the 90s couldn't even exist.
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He would be name dropping 80s artists
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He would be name dropping 80s artists
Yeah, that's basically what I figured lol.
Even though he does that from time to time already anyway lol.
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I actually think it has a lot to do with Game not really being original & his lyrics being weak for the most part. I think the name dropping really hurt him.
Then again, going by my theories on Hip Hop, if The Documentary or Doctor's Advocate came out in the 90's, they would probably be regarded as a classics. They were just 10+ years late lol.
But if those albums came out in the 90s, what would Game be rapping about? His entire career is based on reminiscing about the 90s, namedropping the artists from that time and reusing their lines and phrases. Game in the 90s couldn't even exist.
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if we have to argue like this in a thread, is obvious it isnt a classic.
would anyone argue nuthin but a g thang isnt a classic? no.
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if we have to argue like this in a thread, is obvious it isnt a classic.
would anyone argue nuthin but a g thang isnt a classic? no.
True but G thang aside, theres tons of "classics" that i'm sure many of us don't agree on. I would say though, the best of the best are the ones most can agree on, and those can all probably be counted on one hand.
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Yeah, but going by those criteria, Lil' Wayne's "Lollipop" is a near classic lol.
Lollipop is a classic.
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if we have to argue like this in a thread, is obvious it isnt a classic.
would anyone argue nuthin but a g thang isnt a classic? no.