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i have his digital albums also...but i have to go with underground hit list as his best album
Hopsin > Tyler
i have his digital albums also...but i have to go with underground hit list as his best album
that ones up there, but i think he's improved since then...btw, "the opera" wasn't only released digitally.
i have his digital albums also...but i have to go with underground hit list as his best album
that ones up there, but i think he's improved since then...btw, "the opera" wasn't only released digitally.
where can i get it at on cd
Hopsin > Tyler
No argument from me. Hopsin is one of the best artists in the game today. Tyler is just has a dope vibe. He's not very talented lyrically...at all.
http://www.youtube.com/v/FPHHudm0NTY
nik you are dumb as hell
I PREFER TO FUCK YOUR MOTHER
Hopsin > Tyler
No argument from me. Hopsin is one of the best artists in the game today. Tyler is just has a dope vibe. He's not very talented lyrically...at all.
http://www.youtube.com/v/FPHHudm0NTY
Tyler just swagger jacked all the sac-town artists and recreated the style with a lot less talent...really duno how he blew up over the likes of xraided, lynch, sicx, loki, c-lim, g-macc, t-nutty, cos, c-bo, mr. doctor and all 'em
^^^no u dont lol, it's a #fanboy thread.
OddFuture>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>L.A.M.B. [it's not even a competition]
as far as tha homie XRaided being under him... no, he's just been locked up for too long and doesn't quite have that ear for a good beat. lynch is that nigga and i doubt he's ever wanted to be all over the tv and radio like that otherwise he would've put a different balance to his music. and tha rest of them niggaz just don't have it like that and their ear 4 beats aren't quite up 2 par.
i don't know how u got OddFuture jacking that SacTown swagger but more power to u. when Tyler and OddFuture start rapping about raping children and eating body parts and using SacTown sonics in their music then you have a point. some people don't really know what "horrorcore" really iz lol. i haven't listened to everything OddFuture but i've heard enough from them to know that they ain't "horrorcore" type of rappers.
i need more proof...couldn't get past X-Raided's telephone rap...wtf? the beat alone makes it better that Tyler...
i guess Nik. it seems like you're tryna put on G-Macc, i guess you guys met up and you're trying to establish some type of bond thing or something. good 4 u 4 tryna put u and ur crew and pplz on but don't start actin' a ass becuz u got some type of ulterior motive or fanboy obsession with some dude niggaz never heard (no disrespect 2 G tho, i'm sure he's got something goin 4 him).
if u think OddFuture bit off of Siccmade (a label i grew up listening to) then you might as well say that Siccmade jacked Triple Six Mafia and Triple Six Mafia jacked them "drag em from the river" boyz so in the end OddFuture stole their whole style from them "drag em from the river" niggaz. like i said u don't really know what "horrorcore" is, horrorcore is what L.A.M.B. and Siccmade do not OddFuture. Brotha Lynch Hung and them rap about eating baby intestines (as well as Lamb) and OddFuture rap about fuckin' shit up. Just becuz the music is dark doesn't mean they're swagger jackin. U might as well say that LAMB stole The Prophet Posse's ENTIRE style and Eminem bit everything off of Brotha Lynch Hung and Esham if that's how ur goin at it (even though i admit Eminem isn't nothin but a White Brotha Lynch Hung. The only thing that makes him a little different is that his catalog is slightly more diverse than his).
like i said tho, it's cool u like that dark shit and that's ur thing but don't come out here lyin on niggaz talkin about so and so is stealing shit becuz ur establishing connects or G-Macc is your favorite rapper for today lol. Siccmade and OddFuture are like Apples and Grapes and LAMB and XRaided are like Ferrari's and drivable Hotwheels for toddlers. i like that u know a lil somethin about rap for a Jew but u need 2 dig a lil deeper and search a little harder to get that knowledge. they've all (mostly) made similar songs at some point but what artist in general hasn't? Biggie made "suicidal thoughts" and talkin about fuckin little kids in the ass but that doesn't make the nigga a horrorcore rapper, alotta niggaz have said some wild shit but it ain't tha same thing.
http://www.youtube.com//v/PpXxFD3OQ-g that's some gangsta shit, not some horrorcore shit. u gotta listen to tha lyrics.
LOL @ NIK thinking he's lyrical. & LMFAO @ NIK thinking he's better than Tyler, The Creator.
NIK, just because you rhyme "I get digits on my pivot & live it because I'm livid" doesn't make you lyrical. You just throw rhyming words together & lyrically you rap about murdering women via bush.
http://www.youtube.com//v/izC-8bTziHE
i'll give u an example of what i mean. the first two niggaz rappin on the track (K-Rock and MC Mack) are on that gangsta shit while whole time tha beat kinda puts u in a dark trance even though there's no real references to demonic worship and all of that. and the last nigga on tha track (Scan Man) is on sum horrorcore crazy type of shit (it's actually kinda wack but u see what i mean). Scan Man references cutting up bodies and that type of shit and devilish references while the other two niggaz don't and never really have from all of what i heard (especially MC Mack who be rippin shit all tha time).
this track is kinda like a fine balance between the two genres except Scan Man is really tha only nigga on here doing that horrorcore shit but at tha time this is kinda tha reason why I fell in love with the whole entire Prophet Posse from tha jump (they were artists with it but they kept it hood at tha same time and executed it damn near perfectly even though today i'd probably skip over today alot of what i liked back then).
Listen to this shit in a system and that muthafucka bangz too. some OLD Heads and some youngins (i'm talkin maybe 14 and below) really don't realize how influential and pioneering DJ Paul and Juicy J were to this game of rap. a few people were experimenting with it here and there back in tha day but nobody was doing it like the Triple Six Mafia. they had to change their name in 95' from Triple Six Mafia to Three 6 Mafia just to make their shit more sellable. Tha funniest thing that gets me is that Juicy J and Project Pat's father is a preacher and still is to this day i believe lol.
http://www.youtube.com//v/_deinljetI4
i'll give u an example of what i mean. the first two niggaz rappin on the track (K-Rock and MC Mack) are on that gangsta shit while whole time tha beat kinda puts u in a dark trance even though there's no real references to demonic worship and all of that. and the last nigga on tha track (Scan Man) is on sum horrorcore crazy type of shit (it's actually kinda wack but u see what i mean). Scan Man references cutting up bodies and that type of shit and devilish references while the other two niggaz don't and never really have from all of what i heard (especially MC Mack who be rippin shit all tha time).
this track is kinda like a fine balance between the two genres except Scan Man is really tha only nigga on here doing that horrorcore shit but at tha time this is kinda tha reason why I fell in love with the whole entire Prophet Posse from tha jump (they were artists with it but they kept it hood at tha same time and executed it damn near perfectly even though today i'd probably skip over today alot of what i liked back then).
Listen to this shit in a system and that muthafucka bangz too. some OLD Heads and some youngins (i'm talkin maybe 14 and below) really don't realize how influential and pioneering DJ Paul and Juicy J were to this game of rap. a few people were experimenting with it here and there back in tha day but nobody was doing it like the Triple Six Mafia. they had to change their name in 95' from Triple Six Mafia to Three 6 Mafia just to make their shit more sellable. Tha funniest thing that gets me is that Juicy J and Project Pat's father is a preacher and still is to this day i believe lol.
three six are innovators of horrorcore rap, no doubt...but lynch, sicx, and raided came before them, homie. same with esham and necro. three six was not the first, they were just some of the biggest and are definitely innovators, but there was horrorcore way before 'em.
fuck r u talking about, these niggaz were putting out tapes (as a group and individually) starting in 1990/1991. do u know how long these niggaz been in tha game homie? u don't know about tha real 666 my nigga. i'm aware that Lynch/Sicx/Raided been out pretty much just as long but 666Mafia weren't biting off of them niggaz.
http://www.youtube.com//v/x8HHMIRrCM8
LOL @ NIK thinking he's lyrical. & LMFAO @ NIK thinking he's better than Tyler, The Creator.
NIK, just because you rhyme "I get digits on my pivot & live it because I'm livid" doesn't make you lyrical. You just throw rhyming words together & lyrically you rap about murdering women via bush.
better lyrically, no doubt...as far as rhyme-structure and mechanics go, tyler is really whack. as far as on a multi-syllable tip, tyler is awful. almost anyone can flip syllables better than tyler. dude's simple, his rhyming mechanics and techniques aint impressive at all.
necro was born in 1976
he was rappin in the 80s? u tryin to idolize ur fellow white man 2 much there NIKCC
LOL @ NIK thinking he's lyrical. & LMFAO @ NIK thinking he's better than Tyler, The Creator.
NIK, just because you rhyme "I get digits on my pivot & live it because I'm livid" doesn't make you lyrical. You just throw rhyming words together & lyrically you rap about murdering women via bush.
better lyrically, no doubt...as far as rhyme-structure and mechanics go, tyler is really whack. as far as on a multi-syllable tip, tyler is awful. almost anyone can flip syllables better than tyler. dude's simple, his rhyming mechanics and techniques aint impressive at all.
rhyming multi-syllable is only impressive if you say something that makes sense. Is that line cham posted really yours? Because its meaningless and an awful rhyme. Rapping something meaningful with single syllable rhymes >>>> saying gibberish by rhyming random words together.
but who had actually heard of them niggaz though (other than MAYBE Esham in certain circles)? Three 6 was selling out shows and getting banned from clubs in 92' and they were selling out tapes ALL ACROSS THE SOUTH way before "Mystic Stylez" had ever came out. I know becuz my sister's ex from way back yonder who was from Alabama told me him and his boyz used to bump that shit when they were teenagers in high school (keep in mind this nigga graduated in 95 which is the year "Mystic Stylez" came out). I also know becuz when i waz a youngin i did all of the studying i could on Three 6 Mafia.
i see what you're saying but nobody heard of Brotha Lynch and them niggaz outside of Sacramento and MAYBE a few spots close to that in 86' my nigga. XRaided's FIRST demo tape (i think all of it) from 1991 is on YouTube [but basically them niggaz were local just like Lil' Jay waz before he became Young Jeezy]. And i didnt even hear of Necro until like 2/3 years ago so if he had a hit or two u have to define hit becuz i ain't never heard that shit. Tha only white rappers from back in tha day who had HITS were The Beastie Boys, Snow, House Of Pain, Mark Whalberg, and Vanilla Ice. They came out all around the same time i'll admit that but Three 6 actually blew up and had their own sound doing it and the rest of em didn't.
How many people before "Season Of Da Siccness" had actually heard of Brotha Lynch before that other than niggaz watching the news on that XRaided shit? I think you're kinda getting local niggaz (at tha time) mixed up with Innovators and game changers. I've read about where these niggaz got their influences from and it wasn't any of them niggaz from what i remember. I grew up on that Siccmade shit so i feel u but i think Three 6 had tha ball first with that 1, their posse was like 60 deep back in tha day. Between them and The Wu Tang u couldn't have had a bigger crew back in tha day (and all of them niggaz actually rapped and released albums too)
Necro Biography
Necro was born in Brooklyn, New York and grew up in the Glenwood Housing Projects, where he lived for eight years from about 6 years old to age 14, when he moved to Canarsie. He is the son of two Israeli expatriates and of Israeli and Romanian ethnicity.[3] Necro's father was a Romanian born Israeli combat soldier and his mother an Orthodox baalat teshuva.[4]
He began his musical career at 11, playing guitar in a death/thrash metal band named Injustice. But in due time, he made a transition from metal to hip-hop.[4] In 1988, he started rapping after being influenced by his older brother, rapper Ill Bill. Necro derived his stage-name from the Slayer song "Necrophobic". Before that he called himself "Mad Mooney", which was a character from a Clive Barker book. He made his first demo in about 1990 and won a demo battle contest on the Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito show on WKCR 89.9FM.
but who had actually heard of them niggaz though (other than MAYBE Esham in certain circles)? Three 6 was selling out shows and getting banned from clubs in 92' and they were selling out tapes ALL ACROSS THE SOUTH way before "Mystic Stylez" had ever came out. I know becuz my sister's ex from way back yonder who was from Alabama told me him and his boyz used to bump that shit when they were teenagers in high school (keep in mind this nigga graduated in 95 which is the year "Mystic Stylez" came out). I also know becuz when i waz a youngin i did all of the studying i could on Three 6 Mafia.
i see what you're saying but nobody heard of Brotha Lynch and them niggaz outside of Sacramento and MAYBE a few spots close to that in 86' my nigga. XRaided's FIRST demo tape (i think all of it) from 1991 is on YouTube [but basically them niggaz were local just like Lil' Jay waz before he became Young Jeezy]. And i didnt even hear of Necro until like 2/3 years ago so if he had a hit or two u have to define hit becuz i ain't never heard that shit. Tha only white rappers from back in tha day who had HITS were The Beastie Boys, Snow, House Of Pain, Mark Whalberg, and Vanilla Ice. They came out all around the same time i'll admit that but Three 6 actually blew up and had their own sound doing it and the rest of em didn't.
How many people before "Season Of Da Siccness" had actually heard of Brotha Lynch before that other than niggaz watching the news on that XRaided shit? I think you're kinda getting local niggaz (at tha time) mixed up with Innovators and game changers. I've read about where these niggaz got their influences from and it wasn't any of them niggaz from what i remember. I grew up on that Siccmade shit so i feel u but i think Three 6 had tha ball first with that 1, their posse was like 60 deep back in tha day. Between them and The Wu Tang u couldn't have had a bigger crew back in tha day (and all of them niggaz actually rapped and released albums too)
but who had actually heard of them niggaz though (other than MAYBE Esham in certain circles)? Three 6 was selling out shows and getting banned from clubs in 92' and they were selling out tapes ALL ACROSS THE SOUTH way before "Mystic Stylez" had ever came out. I know becuz my sister's ex from way back yonder who was from Alabama told me him and his boyz used to bump that shit when they were teenagers in high school (keep in mind this nigga graduated in 95 which is the year "Mystic Stylez" came out). I also know becuz when i waz a youngin i did all of the studying i could on Three 6 Mafia.
i see what you're saying but nobody heard of Brotha Lynch and them niggaz outside of Sacramento and MAYBE a few spots close to that in 86' my nigga. XRaided's FIRST demo tape (i think all of it) from 1991 is on YouTube [but basically them niggaz were local just like Lil' Jay waz before he became Young Jeezy]. And i didnt even hear of Necro until like 2/3 years ago so if he had a hit or two u have to define hit becuz i ain't never heard that shit. Tha only white rappers from back in tha day who had HITS were The Beastie Boys, Snow, House Of Pain, Mark Whalberg, and Vanilla Ice. They came out all around the same time i'll admit that but Three 6 actually blew up and had their own sound doing it and the rest of em didn't.
How many people before "Season Of Da Siccness" had actually heard of Brotha Lynch before that other than niggaz watching the news on that XRaided shit? I think you're kinda getting local niggaz (at tha time) mixed up with Innovators and game changers. I've read about where these niggaz got their influences from and it wasn't any of them niggaz from what i remember. I grew up on that Siccmade shit so i feel u but i think Three 6 had tha ball first with that 1, their posse was like 60 deep back in tha day. Between them and The Wu Tang u couldn't have had a bigger crew back in tha day (and all of them niggaz actually rapped and released albums too)
loox like this dumbass never herda 3rd Bass
Necro Biography
Necro was born in Brooklyn, New York and grew up in the Glenwood Housing Projects, where he lived for eight years from about 6 years old to age 14, when he moved to Canarsie. He is the son of two Israeli expatriates and of Israeli and Romanian ethnicity.[3] Necro's father was a Romanian born Israeli combat soldier and his mother an Orthodox baalat teshuva.[4]
He began his musical career at 11, playing guitar in a death/thrash metal band named Injustice. But in due time, he made a transition from metal to hip-hop.[4] In 1988, he started rapping after being influenced by his older brother, rapper Ill Bill. Necro derived his stage-name from the Slayer song "Necrophobic". Before that he called himself "Mad Mooney", which was a character from a Clive Barker book. He made his first demo in about 1990 and won a demo battle contest on the Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito show on WKCR 89.9FM.
exactly my point homie. nobody even heard of this bama until like the mid/late 90's while Tha Prophet Posse was selling out shows all across Tennessee and selling out albums all across the south. They had the swagger, the crew, the body of work, and pretty much the whole coast behind them before "Mystic Stylez" even came out in May of 95'.
no disrespect but i think my man waz right when he said you're idolizing dude a little too hard lol. "Mystic Stylez" went Gold before the year was over and they had already had beef with well known rappers at that time (Bone Thugs N Harmony) about who invented the style first and not at 1 point were niggaz mentioning Esham and Necro or even Lynch 4 that matter. I remember putting people on who were my school peers and a couple older heads onto Lynch's music back in early 01'/02' and that was the 1st time they had heard some shit like that (some of em actually thought Lynch was biting off of Eminem). I still remember niggaz geekin off of "Siccmade" in my classroom for the 1st time lol.
like i said they all came out around the same time i'll give u that and honestly i think it was just coming outta tha cracks regardless but it was Three 6 who were tha 1's that practically birthed the style (and maybe Lynch too but tha nigga was still Cali based anyway even though i've someBODY tell me on this side that they brought "Season Of Da Siccness" tha day it came out but that waz 1 nigga tho everybody else waz still ripe and didn't even listen to that type of shit but they all knew who Three 6 were before "When Da Smoke Clears").
LOL @ NIK thinking he's lyrical. & LMFAO @ NIK thinking he's better than Tyler, The Creator.
NIK, just because you rhyme "I get digits on my pivot & live it because I'm livid" doesn't make you lyrical. You just throw rhyming words together & lyrically you rap about murdering women via bush.
better lyrically, no doubt...as far as rhyme-structure and mechanics go, tyler is really whack. as far as on a multi-syllable tip, tyler is awful. almost anyone can flip syllables better than tyler. dude's simple, his rhyming mechanics and techniques aint impressive at all.
rhyming multi-syllable is only impressive if you say something that makes sense. Is that line cham posted really yours? Because its meaningless and an awful rhyme. Rapping something meaningful with single syllable rhymes >>>> saying gibberish by rhyming random words together.
matter of fact tha only thing that seperates Eminew from Lynch is Em's humor and ''the eminem show'' and ''recovery'' albums and tha accent he had on ''relapse'' and those bisexual references on that album.
like i said, three six was the first one to go really big wit it, but they definitely aint the first to come out on a horrorcore tip...esham put out a horrorcore album years before three six even formed as a groupe, ya feel me? so like i was sayin, there was horrorcore before three six, but three six was the first ones to go really big with it..
matter of fact tha only thing that seperates Eminew from Lynch is Em's humor and ''the eminem show'' and ''recovery'' albums and tha accent he had on ''relapse'' and those bisexual references on that album.
u type like a fuckin methadon user
how tha fuck was 3rd bass over rated?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090728060852AAe5mwt
like i said, three six was the first one to go really big wit it, but they definitely aint the first to come out on a horrorcore tip...esham put out a horrorcore album years before three six even formed as a groupe, ya feel me? so like i was sayin, there was horrorcore before three six, but three six was the first ones to go really big with it..
LIKE I SAID, tha nigga was local http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomin%27_Words_from_Hell and outside of his city (maybe even state) nobody had heard of this nigga. U might as well credit my nigga Larry Davis for inventing "Gangsta Rap" if that's tha case. I said maybe other than a few "circles" people had probably heard of dude, i remember reading about it a long time ago but you're not gonna tell me that with all of the rap music that's come out in tha past decade with the whole style and hooks and even today with tha more melodicly dark beats that Three 6 didn't grandfather tha whole genre of it.
U said it yourself they blew it up, Esham didn't, Necro didn't, and SiccMade was probably the next in line. Society has always followed and clung onto what waz popular and 1996 or whatever wasn't any different. U had to SEARCH to hear that shit ur puttin out there, it's always been alot easier to find what DJ Paul and Juicy J were doing. I mean it's not like we're talkin Peanut Butter with George Washington Carver, we're talking about trend setters and innovators not some niggaz putting out demos on a corner on a block that nobody ever went to except people who lived there.
Maybe I'm wrong about it all but I've done a little too much reasearch and stanning on Three 6 to just be saying anything and if i'm wrong i'm wrong but i can't see some niggaz who were making moves like Master P swagger jacking and imitating some local ass nigga that nobody even heard of outside of his County, you're kinda reaching if u ask me. U have to really understand how connected these niggaz were in Tennessee back in those days (as in the state and not just the County in Memphis). U'd have a better chance at convincing me that they were biting off all of Brotha Lynch's shit than Esham and Necro and King Gordy and shit like that considering tha fact that the niggaz were so influenced by California and DJ Squeeky. But Esham and Necro though, i'm not seein it. Even XRaided was still pretty regional when all that shit went down. I guess becuz u've been in Cali all of ur life u don't see it that way so i know where ur comin from.
i havent idolized one person in this thread yet, lol...but it is funny that u think three six birthed that style when esham already had horrorcore albums out before three six was even formed. really, i only spit the real, i aint like these other punks on here, so dont doubt what i say when i say it...u only heard of necro 2/3 years ago LOL. his height of popularity was '99/'00 when "I Need Drugs" came out...dude is an innovator of horrorcore, and there's no denyin it. of course, he's undergorund, and never reached the level of success three six has reached, but he is one of the innovators and is well respected as a horrorcore originator in the game. shit, necro is actually workin on a collaboration album with kool g rap, it don't get more hip-hop than that. at the end of the day, there was horrorcore rap before three six...they just were the first 2 take it 2 the next level, so the respect is there...but lynch n raided will always be my shit.
i havent idolized one person in this thread yet, lol...but it is funny that u think three six birthed that style when esham already had horrorcore albums out before three six was even formed. really, i only spit the real, i aint like these other punks on here, so dont doubt what i say when i say it...u only heard of necro 2/3 years ago LOL. his height of popularity was '99/'00 when "I Need Drugs" came out...dude is an innovator of horrorcore, and there's no denyin it. of course, he's undergorund, and never reached the level of success three six has reached, but he is one of the innovators and is well respected as a horrorcore originator in the game. shit, necro is actually workin on a collaboration album with kool g rap, it don't get more hip-hop than that. at the end of the day, there was horrorcore rap before three six...they just were the first 2 take it 2 the next level, so the respect is there...but lynch n raided will always be my shit.
yeah u have been stannin' and my man NOBODY knew who tha fuck Necro was even if they had heard that record. and u can miss me with all of that OG talk becuz i know what you're about lol smh. By 99' Three 6 wasn't even really on that shit anymore (other than maybe Lord Infamous) so you're right those dudes probably did mold the style a little bit. i think you're giving your heros a little more credit than they deserve.
And before u say anything about me and Three 6 just know i didn't even really start to fuck with their music until "Da Unbreakables" came out, before that it was all about Tha Ruthless Family Tree and Brotha Lynch Hung and pretty much everybody else on The West Coast. I had to hip myself to Three 6 Mafia/Prophet Entertainment just like u need 2 do. Memphis (not just Three 6) is a mecca it's self but it never gets credit for being it.
You're vaguely right about Gangsta Nip doing his thing but the nigga was still local homie and as far as your "elements" argument is concerned u might as well say that Snoop Dogg was doin tha shit too becuz "Murda Was Tha Case" has that element to it. Like i said, u don't really know what horrorcore is and u think everything that has a dark and violent vibe to it is horrorcore. Horrorcore is all about worshipping the devil and chopping up people on every other song u make, not just about killing people over a dark melody it's a little more graphic and physcotic than that.
U think becuz some 13 year old kid who made a tape and sold it to his school invented this game, as well as people who literally never made it outside of their neighborhood were the originators and think they planted the 1st seeds in tha ground and in a way there's an "element" of truth to that but everybody was saying wild shit back then, you have to dig deeper than a few bars and beats and sell records to your classmates to really be an originator (i doubt if ANY of them had even heard of each other's music in the 1st place which is a key element you're forgetting - Mobb Deep didn't even listen to "The Lost Boyz" shit until this year).
I mean we're talking about niggaz who've been in tha game since EARLY 1991 (actually releasing tapes, not just doing talent shows in the school cafeteria or giving their homies on their block in a 5 block radius), i think u need to dip a little hard and then u'll know. Nip sold 100K but i don't think he was really all that horrorcore, the nigga was just violent and graphic as fuck.
U STILL don't know how deep their entire crew was back in tha day and how far they had reach in Tennesse and tha South in general. Just becuz Scarface had a bar about "bust you over the head with a muthafuckin bat and bust yo head to tha muthafuckin fat" doesn't mean these niggaz were on some Anti-Christ shit. I gotta get a little more hip to Gangsta Nip and i can see Three 6 being influenced considering what coast they were on but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_South_Park_Psycho wasn't released until 92' so that kinda deads what you're saying.
Like i said u don't really know how deep them niggaz were back n tha day, u probably think they were only DJ Paul, Juicy J, Skinny Pimp, and Gangsta Blac when in reality them niggaz worked with EVERYBODY in Tennessee pretty much and were already doing shows thruout tha state by the end of 91'. I know they started off competing in 1990 but by early 91' they were already formed and releasing music together. U need to do some research on them before u throw them off and say they weren't originators. Them niggaz were already selling 6figures by 93', everybody brought records back then. Other than DJ Squeeky's camp and i think DJ Zirk's camp them niggaz almost literally worked with everybody in Tennessee producing for them and making music with them. Your boy Esham was selling tapes at lunch and Necro was virtually unheard of.
I honestly just think u don't wanna give it to em and just wanna argue with me all night.
- raider, fuck 3rd Bass... they didn't do shit but make white america feel more comfortable about Hip Hop, nobody took them dudes seriously outside of NY. you're overrating them but your a fan i guess.
nah, they definitely don't carry me like they carry u, that's only cham dickriding me and a random follow from jaydc every now and then. 4 tha most part i never had that problem at all, i actually got tha joke u don't, u be takin it to a whole nother level while everybody is sittin back laughin at u (including me sometimes). maybe you're just to tormented on the inside and it drags down on your sense of humor. Looney's a bitch too but i don't pay tha fag the time of day so he doesn't really count.
But if that's the "they" you're talking about then yeah you're right (even though i dont care tho) but me and u are definitely not in tha same boat. i fucks wit u becuz u make music and i never really liked bullies but me and u iz like a Spaceship to a Camel, we're nothing alike. Besides, who actually gives a fuck what they say out tha side of their loose ass asscheeks anyway, i gave up on that back n forth shit years ago. After a minute u could tell these transsexuals were still teenagers and skitzophrenics, it stopped grabbing my attention real quick. I mean there's nothing left to say when u start lookin like a spam bot.
you're still missing the point, who had heard of these niggaz outside of their neighborhood and had they even heard of each other?
I know those albums and songs you're talking about, i mean there's only so many of em but as far as setting the trend and trailblazing the game and putting those seeds in people's minds that waz Three 6 all day.
The Geto Boys were doing they thing but them niggaz were local back then, Scarface wasn't even serious about being a rapper in those times. The nigga even said in The Source he was going to retire off of drug money (how true that is i dont know). just becuz u were an inspiring rapper or rap group back in tha day doesn't mean people had actually heard your shit. That's what you're not understanding. I'm going off of sales and popularity back then (becuz the game was different back then), you're talking about niggaz who were making basement tapes selling it to their homies. U have to google shit like that to find out, Three 6 on tha other had tha game on lock and blazed the path for EVERYBODY to get heard IMO, maybe Lynch too but like i said he was California based. By the summer/spring of 1994 DJ Paul had released "Vol. 16 - For Da Summa", that's 16 volumes deep homer, not 6.
You weren't really around in those times getting hip to what waz happening and i might've been a late bloomer on Three 6 but i always knew who them niggaz were becuz there were old heads and classmates of mine talking about em all tha time. Necro and them niggaz were basketball court/cafeteria rappers and The Geto Boys weren't even the same Geto Boys they had became up until 93'. There's things you're overrating and underminding. U makin it sound like EVERYBODY who had talked about getting a little blood on their shirt was jacking Spice 1 and Kool Keith and Esham, it was just something you said back then but they didn't actually make or set off an entire genre of music becuz of that.
to this day people still don't know who Esham and Necro (even Gangsta Nip) are, u need 2 socialize a little more. the internet isn't exactly the bee hive for everything hip hop. but i think it's kinda too late though, those times have came and went now
I always get a kick out of the two lamest people in the World going back & forth like this. It's like two idiots calling the other one stupider.
Although, Radiotube is growing on me. Outside of his pathetic fake tracklists that clearly take him hours to create & his soft spot for awful Southern music he thinks is on par with the likes of Nas & Premo, he's a decently knowledgable guy.
if someone doesn't know who necro or esham is, they really gotta step their game up...like i said, three six brought horrorcore to the forefront, but peeps were doin it before them. ur actually agreein with me, but ur havin difficulties sayin it for some reason.
i think it's safe to say that Three 6 were the innovators of it as well as originators 4 it and no matter how u wanna cut it with your favorite rappers
r u reading everything u wrote bitch or are u arguing.
"three 6 formed in 91'" - which is kinda false becuz they werent Three 6 in those days
everything you're tracing starts back to 1991 except Esham who nobody had heard of. and like i said u DONT KNOW THE ART OF IT. just becuz u made a song and put some wild shit on ur album cover doesn't make u a horrorcore artist. i mean what tha fuck son, ur getting shit from wikipedia writing it off as the holy scripture. CLEARLY, both u and i know that they're forgetting Lynch and Triple 6 on that list but ur sitting up here postin the shit like that's the end all be all.
ur chamillitary clickin.
no bitch u dont get it. ur chamillitary clickin. ur saying that two songs and a lunch room rapper are tha origin 4 tha style. give it up son, ur reachin, u need an exorcism to c da light u need 2 read a book or two about rap and poetry and travel back n time 2 get it. u probably didnt even start listening 2 rap until ''no limit top dogg'' and didnt start talking abt it until u got 2 dubcc and frankly tha shit iz kinda obvious.
ur basically saying since its like that that Linda Lovelace is tha anal queen of porn
on EVERYTHING i thought i was tha only person creating tracklists and album covers when i was a youngin, making up cartoons and
shit. Dude pretty much raps exactly like i was rappin' (even though i'm me), the characters with tha dark voices, speeding up the
beats and slowing them down midway thru tha songs, having a posse and making them into some voltron type shit... i swear to god
when i was in the 5th/6th grade i had all of tha niggaz i knew could "flow" and my cousins (even having my couzin Dave to a DJ
EZ-Dic skit on the record... i still remember the rap "don't wanna kiss u becuz ur breathe smell like old farted up tissue") and it all
written down in a notebook with their rap names and album names and release dates and "coming soons" and all of that (i even had
bitches that could sing written in there too). I still remember my cousin's name and album "Black Marxxx" "Tha Marxxx of Death". I
still remember tellin niggaz how EASY it was to make tha "Light Ya Ass On Fire" instrumental with Fruity Loops when those niggaz
didn't even have a clue what a beat machine was. Shit, on everything I love i got shit I'm already thinking about that's gonna be the
new new for 2035 - 2051.
this waz way back in 1999/2000 (and i was doing shit before that was similar way way back in 94/95 with just me and my other
cousin). this waz way before OddFuture, this was before I myself had even heard of Three 6 Mafia even though i swear i heard "tear
da club up" at some point in 96. I was even listening to Dre's beats and seeing where all of the extra instrumentation came from and
then go back and listen to other songs and see where u could fit more in and take stuff out, i've always done that. listening to tha
lyrics and seeing how it could be stitched together tighter (way before Eminem did with tha way he was going on Relapse" and
"Recovery"). I was greatly influenced by Lynch becuz of his soul and his craft but I wasn't trying to be like Brotha Lynch Hung.
I made this beat way back yonder in the spring of 06' fucking around with the pitches n shit and incorporating them in my lyrics http://limelinx.com/files/c795ed23a0562dafbdc0304fa756522e does Pharrell owe me credit for this becuz it sounds so much alike like "So Ambitious" by Jay http://www.usershare.net/8n7q6hpo49x2
Does that mean I'm the originator of it? Tyler took that shit to a whole new level and breathed life into it causing him to be an
originator of that. Even though I had experimented with it and was thinking of that shit before I could even lay down a drum pattern
does that mean Tyler has to pay me homage. I was rapping on some Earl/Tyler/Hodgy shit too does that mean I'm one of the founding
fathers of OddFuture and they owe their career to my work? I think when you're young it's just something you come up with hence all
of that type of music in RAP coming out like that around the same time, it's just a phase u go thru at that age and u experiment with the shit.
I'm sorry it took you 10 years to find your passion for music again but if u woulda kept at it u would get what i'm saying. Triple Six
took the thought of it and created a whole new style of Hip Hop and if u disagree then u disagree, all I'm saying is don't be so sure
Esham and Gangsta Nip were household names all across America in 1990. Scarface wasn't even that mainstream like that back then
even though he and Willie D were buzzin'. By Your definition the Romans and Jews are the creators of all things Rap and Africa is the
creator of all things music (that arguement only holds so much truth and weight to it). I was even thinking of making videos for every
one of my songs on my album before 50 even released "Tha Massacre". It's like you're trying to lump everybody together and blanket tha shit.
I'm not making any of this stuff up and believe me my mind is endless when it comes to Hollywood and the Hiipower (i'm an original
and aninnovator myself and have always breaded myself to be that way... i felt a "sad" in my heart and a discomfort when Andre 3000
"hollywood just keeps takin our shit but it's ok becuz we'll just come out with the new shit"). You're mistaking two/three random ass
songs that niggaz did for birthing an entire style and genre of rap (like how the label has been doing with Lex Luger and his sound
even though the dude has shit that sounds nothing like the shit you hear that gets released). If that's the case then Brotha
Lynch/Sicx/XRaided hold more clout in that forum than The Geto Boys did.
Basically what i'm saying is that there comes a time in music where it takes the public to catch on to it even though it's always been
around for ages. Now people have never heard me rap (the world anyway) but if i never told u this you'd think OddFuture were the
only people thinking of this shit and everybody that comes out after them is biting off of OddFuture (even though you could be right
technically). It's just like i was saying, those raps you're mentioning and the people u named may have can out at tha same time or a
year or two before with it but who heard of em? You're getting today's "quick information age" mixed with yesterday's (which is why i
guess people are still bitching about the rap music of today even though they're getting what they're asking for and more). Example,
i've never heard of Tory Lanez or checked for his video but a couple thousand people have and i haven't and for all i know dude
could be on tha same shit i'm on but i'd never know it becuz i never heard his shit. Tay Don from BrickSquad is from Landover (5 cities over)
and I've never even heard this nigga's music and I thought he was from Atlanta. For all I know Tay Don could have that sound and
spark that Tha County needs but I would'nt know becuz I've never heard his shit and this nigga practically lives down the highway from
my house. I could've met tha nigga and not even knew it was him but yet he's fuckin' with BrickSquad and he's from Tha County.
And I'm not sayin that Three 6 wasn't influenced a little by The Geto Boys (i think everybody was) but The Geto Boys were more on that
gangsta shit while "Tha BackYard Posse" was more of a hybrid which is what i was getting at about them being the originators so to
say. And not once did i say i was giving Three 6 all of the sole credit (ironic) for it but tha fact of tha matter is is that they
were more popular (other than The Geto Boys even though they aren't horrorcore in the least and they were basically doing it to be
violent and shock people). Alot of people were on that same page about being graphic which is why your lack of knowledge is
showing and you're reaching just to make urself look right becuz everybody knows Nik can't be told nuthin'. You're too caught up in
your lifestyle and in a trance to really grasp what waz going on and what else is going on.
At the end of tha day no matter how much u wanna lie to yourself and make believe that Esham was Michael Jackson and Gangsta
Nip was Elvis the fact of tha matter still remains that Three 6 Mafia were doing this on a whole nother level before these other niggaz
even got outta their state. U act like i don't understand your simple ass and u think i'm callin Scarface a biter smh.
- And as far as the Linda Lovelace thing goes, No. Just becuz u took 5 minutes outta 1 of your 400 films to get fucked in tha ass
doesn't make u the trailblazer when it's been going on before her and after her. Being the Anal Queen of Porn means you eat ass, do
double anals (even triple anals), drink tha milk enemas, and all of that other wild shit they do. Linda wasn't an originator or an
innovator, she just finally tried something different once or twice in one or two of her hundreds of films.
You're talking to an artist NikCC, a connasuer of tha game. To know the truth you have to understand where they're coming from.
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