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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on November 11, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
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all of em were under the tutelage of legends/bosses for a long time, n went NOWHERE, as soon as the ties were severed
not to mention the Outlawz/Thug Life and guys like Lil' Cease (Junior MAFIA), Peedi Crakk, Hot Rod, Goldie Loc, Kokane (signed to Eazy E and Snoop)
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.
but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.
Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.
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Young buck doesn't belong on this. His ties weren't severed and that's the problem. It's well known 50 cent is holding his career hostage and refuses to let buck go. He won't even allow buck to have guest features. So we don't know what he could have done.Personally I think he'd have a solid independent career if given the chance
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Out of this list I'd say Memphis bleek. Dude was handed a career and did nothing with it but fail again and again
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didnt know about the hostage-situation wit Fif n Buck,,, lmao
thats a boss-move. kinda like what CamRon did to Juelz Santana
some other artists --- guys like Cadillac Tah n Black Chiild (Murder Inc),, Ja Rule's n Irv Gottis artists. Ja Rule was the biggest hiphop-artist on the planet back in 98/99 (along wit dmx, jigga n cashmoney-artists), but his murder inc-soldiers failed terribly (except ashantii)
Lil C-Style -- doent realy count imo, cuz dude was never interestd in a rap-career, n picked the streets over the industry.
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Bishop. He isn't even alive anymore.
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.
but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.
Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.
Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.
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If they dropped a hittman album after 2001 it was gauranteed to go platinum, where as bishop going gold would be an accomplishment
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I wouldnt really say Memphis Bleek was a career fail, simply because the guy has done a whole lot better than he deserved anyway. He's had 4 (or is it five?) full major label LPs out of Jay-Z's mentorship, all of which are loaded with big name producers, guest spots etc. The guy has spent most of his career travelling the world as Jay-Z's hypeman on stage and probably enjoyed every second of it.
Without Jay-Z would he even have had one album out? I doubt it. So if I was Memph right now I'd be very grateful of everything I've achieved. I would highly doubt he's under any illusions that he doesn't owe Jigga his whole career. He knows this.
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Memph and Buck have had pretty respectable careers. Bleeks dropped 4 or 5 albums or with decent sales. Buck had a Platinum and a Gold album, now 50's got his career on lock down.
I gotta go with Loon out of this list. The fact Bishop still hasn't dropped his debut is kind of depressing though, he had so much potential
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bishop lamont
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Loon retired and became very religious and has never looked back. He walked away, that's not really a career fail
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Lol@my coast supporters, I mean come on how can anyone say bleek he got gold albums been on plat albums can tour with his equal hov, loon had a couple of hits and doing some networth black man shit. Bucc got a plat album ,badazz been on multi plat albums. Come on bill waltons lol yell
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Buck
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Loon retired and became very religious and has never looked back. He walked away, that's not really a career fail
he failed miserably.
realesd 2 albums after he left Bad Boy (one of em was even released on siccness.net),, he didnt leave the rapgame for Allah till recently
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.
but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.
Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.
Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.
not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)
Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot
Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
true, bishop isnt the biggest failure from aftermath
you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.
but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.
Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.
Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.
not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)
Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot
Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)
250 guest appearances in those years? no way
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you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.
but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.
Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.
Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.
not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)
Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot
Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)
lmao so you're comparing Bishop going out and doing projects with underground artists with Hittman being featured on one of the biggest rap albums of all time? Hitt was given everything. He was featured on ten songs on the biggest album of the year and was the only rapper to get his own solo track. Now that's a way bigger buzz than Bishop doing songs with Warren G and Black Milk. He was promoted as Dre's next big protege and featured all over his album.
And bro if Hittman had a music video we wouldn't be talking about his career failure since his album would have come out. But he did get to spit a verse at the end of the music video from Dre's biggest single. He had everything and did nothing with it. Bishop doing as many features as he did, means he was taking full advantage of the opportunity given to him, not wasting it like Hittman did. Do you think it was Dre who had him go out and work with Black Milk and Warren G? No, that was shit he went out and did on his own. Guy released 5 full-length projects. You've got to admit he made far more out of his time on Aftermath than anyone else on the label who didn't drop an official album. And he also left the label on his own, not waiting around to get dropped for doing nothing like Hittman.
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thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.
u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250 guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..
Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Eminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)
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thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.
u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250 guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..
Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Elyminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)
Where did all these Dre beats come from? I only remember No Stoppin Carson and Grow Up. Hittman was given an entire album of Dre beats and got to be on songs with Dre himself. His songs were getting airplay. He was actually mainstream during that time.
Your problem is you are looking at all the things Bishop did while on Aftermath as things Dre did for him. But these are all things he did on his own. Dre didn't do shit but appear in a video with him. All these projects and appearances, that WAS him piggybacking off of being signed. What did he have to show for being signed? Five projects of original material (non of it produced by Dre). Hittman on the other hand was the star of Dre's comeback album and was promoted as the next big thing. And he did nothing with it. He was dropped and disappeared out of existence without ever having released any music on his own. That is the ultimate career fail.
None of the rappers who left or were dropped from Aftermath have been able to maintain their relevancy. The fact Bishop was able to build a discography during that time means his career was more successful than any of the others who didn't walk away with anything. Right?
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Canibus. not as big fail as the ones you've mentioned but i've always thought he could have done much more... he was more gifted than Bishop and Hittman
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Hittman was never a star. Eminem was, Hittman was never mainstream/no buzz at all. and tehres is no Hittman-album wit complete Dre-production (just a few songs). n he appeared wit some verses on "2001", tahts all
Bishop Lamont is the only artist on aftermah, except Em ,Fif n Buss, that rapped on the most Dre-beats --- and even wit a plethora like that at his disposal, plus the fact taht he managed to spew out hundreds, hundreds, hundreds and hundreds of guestappearances (mainstream n underground) during his short stint at aftermah, he failed as soon as he left the label. disapeared into thin air.. add that up. his fault or not, his career is engraved in history as a fail,, thats how i c it
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Petey Pablo when he signed with Death row :stupid:
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thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.
u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250 guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..
Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Eminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)
i fail to see why he failed right after he left the label? you act like he was going to be a big star but messed up.
and im quite sure that the ones who listened to bishop before, still listen to him. you may have been sleeping, but he dropped quite a few songs since he left aftermath, 2 mixtapes ( one for japan, not all new music but still)
you're right that kendrick gained some attention after dre co-signed him, but hes not a star(yet).
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lol, why u always slinkin in defendin everyhtin that is aftermath-related?
what im sayin, is merely objective and its impartial.
it doesnt take a rocketscientist to see, taht Bishops career is a fail. dude built up a fanbase when he was active wit Dre - as soon as he left, dude had a hardtime carryin his own weight for whatever reason n make the kids follow him,, and shortly after that (now), Bishop was completely silenced. he went from new songs/guest appearnces on the latest/most relevant/hotest shit like every week, to ütter and awkward silence.
he generated a followin n these kids switched focus soon as the new Dre-crowned dudes came along (slim, kendrick).. real is real, all the kids that were ravin bout Bishop (particuarly on this forum), r focusin on Slim n Kendrik nowadays -- there is no such thing as loyalty, when it comes to Dr Dre-stanism.. ask Aftermath-leftovers like Gage and Brooklyn.. are u checkin for them today?
Aftermath Entertainment is a curse, n only time will tell if Slim drops his debut on that jewish-owned label..
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^^^^ if you think the focus has switched that's only cos Bishop hasn't dropped a project in god knows how long, and his last mixtape was sub par. Kendrick just dropped what to me was the album of the year and Slim just dropped a dope mixtape, of course the focus is more on those guys right now, they're doing shit to generate and maintain interest, Bishop isn't.
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if this was couple years ago id say crooked i...but its gotta be chingy lol
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Chingy had success you can't call that failing.
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lol, why u always slinkin in defendin everyhtin that is aftermath-related?
what im sayin, is merely objective and its impartial.
it doesnt take a rocketscientist to see, taht Bishops career is a fail. dude built up a fanbase when he was active wit Dre - as soon as he left, dude had a hardtime carryin his own weight for whatever reason n make the kids follow him,, and shortly after that (now), Bishop was completely silenced. he went from new songs/guest appearnces on the latest/most relevant/hotest shit like every week, to ütter and awkward silence.
he generated a followin n these kids switched focus soon as the new Dre-crowned dudes came along (slim, kendrick).. real is real, all the kids that were ravin bout Bishop (particuarly on this forum), r focusin on Slim n Kendrik nowadays -- there is no such thing as loyalty, when it comes to Dr Dre-stanism.. ask Aftermath-leftovers like Gage and Brooklyn.. are u checkin for them today?
Aftermath Entertainment is a curse, n only time will tell if Slim drops his debut on that jewish-owned label..
its a forum right? for the record, i dont defend everything from aftermath, just check my post archive.
i agree that bishop's career wasn't successfull at aftermath, i just think you're exaggerating. when he was on aftermath, there were enough quiet moments too, just search the forum. remember the early rumours of him getting dropped?
you say people on here dont check for him anymore, but quite a few checked out his last mixtape. and im sure it will be the same once he drops a new one. you're right that he's not really active with the music right now, which is a shame.
well GAGE woke up from his cave not long ago, he dropped a few mixtapes. i listen to it, but you're right that not many check for him.
i agree that aftermath is a shitty label.
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gotta go wit young buck. that cryin on the phone to 50 is hillarious still to this day. 50 really ethered dudes career.
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Juelz Santana, what ever happened to that joint album with Lil Wayne :-\
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Juelz Santana, what ever happened to that joint album with Lil Wayne :-\
has he had a 'career fail' though? Is two fairly popular solo albums and a massive Diplomats album (amogst the obvious being part of a huge mixtape movement) really considered a failure?
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Juelz Santana, what ever happened to that joint album with Lil Wayne :-\
has he had a 'career fail' though? Is two fairly popular solo albums and a massive Diplomats album (amogst the obvious being part of a huge mixtape movement) really considered a failure?
yeah but what has he been doing the last 6 years since his 2nd album came out? I understand that he had some commercial success with Dipset but he was supposeed to be the next big thing, at least here in NYC
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that "i cant feel my face" album wit Juelz n Weezy, wouldve been somthin. shame it didint came to fruition. blame it on Cam'Ron