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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on November 17, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
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im late,
but i was brushin off this Lil Eazy E-character for a long long time (due to that stupid artist name), until now..
i listened to this song "life of a G", n it was dope
a million times better than his overrated n dyslectic father (R.I.P.)
i think i also heard a song wit him n Timbaland many yrs ago. 8)
radiotube, im right - arent i?
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lmfao, smh
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michael stop sniffin the spray paint. eazy is a legend.
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michael stop sniffin the spray paint.
8)
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
are you for real ? LMFAO. eazy was dope ass hell when he wrote and didn't write. eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
what are u talkin about? eazy mighta not wrote all his shit (still wrote a good portion), but his voice/flow/mic presence MURDERS any of his children, along with 99% of the current rap game...step it up.
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no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
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no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
your opinion is yours. but if you don't agree on his influence and what he brought to the game you need to research.
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no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
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no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
this. dude better go listen to tha muthaphukkin real.... a song eazy e wrote.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
I was talkin' about Lil Eazy, but it was the same with Eazy-E. He wrote some of his verses, but mostly other people wrote his lyrics.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
I was talkin' about Lil Eazy, but it was the same with Eazy-E. He wrote some of his verses, but mostly other people wrote his lyrics.
diry red wrote for eazy a couple times. dresta said in an interview it's on was finished when he came around except real muthaphukkin g'z.
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im sayin that his seed is more talented than his pops, thru an objective standpoint. lyrics, subject matter n flow
eazy have classic songs, hes a legend n he had a powerful high-octane voice (some ppl fucks wit that). he was also a likeable character, all that yaddi-yadda this n that etc etc
but dude wasnt packin ammo like taht on the mic
i dont even consider eazy e to be a rapper. he was a hustler/entrepreur,, Dre n Yella had to re-record his vocals during like 10 hours till he got it right wit "boyz n da hood"
no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
your opinion is yours. but if you don't agree on his influence and what he brought to the game you need to research.
im very well aware of eazy-e's stature n influence, yes
ppl are even throwin birthday-bash parties in his name to this day
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im sayin that his seed is more talented than his pops, thru an objective standpoint. lyrics, subject matter n flow
eazy have classic songs, hes a legend n he had a powerful high-octane voice (some ppl fucks wit that). he was also a likeable character, all that yaddi-yadda this n that etc etc
i dont even consider eazy e to be a rapper. he was a hustler/entrepreur,, Dre n Yella had to re-record his vocals during like 10 hours till he got it right wit "boyz n da hood"
no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
your opinion is yours. but if you don't agree on his influence and what he brought to the game you need to research.
im very well aware of eazy-e's stature n influence, yes
ppl are even throwin birthday-bash parties in his name to this day
you finally get it !!!!!!!
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im sayin that his seed is more talented than his pops, thru an objective standpoint. lyrics, subject matter n flow
eazy have classic songs, hes a legend n he had a powerful high-octane voice (some ppl fucks wit that). he was also a likeable character, all that yaddi-yadda this n that etc etc
but dude wasnt packin ammo like taht on the mic
i dont even consider eazy e to be a rapper. he was a hustler/entrepreur,, Dre n Yella had to re-record his vocals during like 10 hours till he got it right wit "boyz n da hood"
mic-presence, madsen...it's one of the most important attributes of being an MC. Eazy's was a 10/10. Lil Eazy is nowhere close. i wont lie, i've heard some dope Lil Eazy tracks. but to compare him to Eazy, u must be trollin or sumthin.
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im sayin that his seed is more talented than his pops, thru an objective standpoint. lyrics, subject matter n flow
eazy have classic songs, hes a legend n he had a powerful high-octane voice (some ppl fucks wit that). he was also a likeable character, all that yaddi-yadda this n that etc etc
but dude wasnt packin ammo like taht on the mic
i dont even consider eazy e to be a rapper. he was a hustler/entrepreur,, Dre n Yella had to re-record his vocals during like 10 hours till he got it right wit "boyz n da hood"
mic-presence, madsen... it's one of the most important attributes of being an MC. Eazy's was a 10/10. Lil Eazy is nowhere close. i wont lie, i've heard some dope Lil Eazy tracks. but to compare him to Eazy, u must be trollin or sumthin.
thats what im sayin,, he had that -- high-octane voice, powerful as fuck.. articulated n dope,,
but ur voice is just ur voice. tahts somethin u have, not talent imo
i want more that that -- lyrics, subject matter and flow = the most basic cornerstones
i can listen to ur music if ur not talented, as long as ur making good songs (i fucks wit eazy myself, n i have digested his catalgoue),,, but "talented" is somethin else
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im sayin that his seed is more talented than his pops, thru an objective standpoint. lyrics, subject matter n flow
eazy have classic songs, hes a legend n he had a powerful high-octane voice (some ppl fucks wit that). he was also a likeable character, all that yaddi-yadda this n that etc etc
but dude wasnt packin ammo like taht on the mic
i dont even consider eazy e to be a rapper. he was a hustler/entrepreur,, Dre n Yella had to re-record his vocals during like 10 hours till he got it right wit "boyz n da hood"
mic-presence, madsen... it's one of the most important attributes of being an MC. Eazy's was a 10/10. Lil Eazy is nowhere close. i wont lie, i've heard some dope Lil Eazy tracks. but to compare him to Eazy, u must be trollin or sumthin.
thats what im sayin,, he had that -- high-octane voice, powerful as fuck.. articulated n dope,,
but ur voice is just ur voice. tahts somethin u have, not talent imo
i want more that that -- lyrics, subject matter and flow = the most basic cornerstones
i can listen to ur music if ur not talented, as long as ur making good songs (i fucks wit eazy myself, n i have digested his catalgoue),,, but "talented" is somethin else
str8. off tha streetz.. it gets no better.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
what are u talkin about? eazy mighta not wrote all his shit (still wrote a good portion), but his voice/flow/mic presence MURDERS any of his children, along with 99% of the current rap game...step it up.
this.
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even after eazy was done wit n.w.a. and started writing himself(mc ren confirmed it) his lyrics were on point theres no gangsta rapper on the west that spit that gangsta shit like eazy. the flows on still a nigga, it's on, tha muthaphukkin real is serious.
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how the hell is his flow dope? dude struggled wit his bars
i give u that, his voice was original n powerful (altho somwehat gay)/ so he had mic-presence --
but flow?
"nooooooow back to the muddafuckin set.. creeeeeepin craaaaawlin"
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:loco:
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Eazy-Duz-It is one of my fav albums of all-time, regardless if he had his lyrics written for him. No one will ever replace Eazy or his legacy. The fact that people are still talkin about him, whether positive or negative, it just goes to show how much of a legacy he left behind.
Lil Eazy is dope, but he needs to release some new shit.
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str8. off tha streetz.. it gets no better.
huh? E had better shit than this....
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To me, Eazy is more about how much he influenced his genre, so I don't think you can compare someone from this generation to him. As for Lil E, he doesn't seem bad but has never really seemed that good either.
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Would'a been nice to hear that album "Prince of Compton" (cool name for a debut) im sure he woulda had some dope ass production on it (w/ with Timbaland/ JR/ Mr. Porter/ Johnny J./ Neff-U/ Toomp/ Cool & Dre and who knows who else) i remember him saying he did another track with Bone Thugs, hope that track alone comes out someday lol
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its better you hear it from Eazy
verse starts at 3.20 - 3.26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96_HCE9UP8
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
No he didn't.
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he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
Your hip hop credibility is revoked if you think he could flow. And emotion on the mic? LOL. Eazy had no emotion, he played the same character on every song.
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no, Cube n Ren wrote his shit
Eazy had his share of classic-material on his repertoïre but in no other means - was he "talented" as a rapper or writer.
but u dont have to be "talented" to make good songs,
it all comes down, to subjectivity and ur own preferenace in music -- but it would not be an understatement, when i say that his son is "better" or "more talented" (take it how u like it) than his pops. its just objective
eazy as an artist made it okay for your favorite rapper to have such freedom on wax
^lol.. sure, whatever
he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
dude sounds like hes too lazy/arrogant to try when he raps. i get that thats his appeal but SOUL?? lmfao
motherrrrr fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
Your hip hop credibility is revoked if you think he could flow. And emotion on the mic? LOL. Eazy had no emotion, he played the same character on every song.
i'll take that as a compliment coming from u, considering ur a fucking hip-hop retard.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/2FRJE7g8wNY
fux wit it, children
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I grew up listenin to Eazy and i love him and he's probably still one of my favorite artists, but some of y'all defendin' him a bit too much.
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I'm not a Eazy E fan or think he was as great as some posters here think but this thread is coming from the same poster who said Mack 10 doesn't have a SINGLE dope solo song
90% of the posts on Dubcc have been for shock value purposes only for a while ....
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^
u find 2 of my opinion-based threads "shocking"? really?
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eazy e was a weak rapper. R.I.P to him but he just got on records and said a bunch of nothing. he fucked up that bone record (for tha love of money)
look at this shit bro. this nigga saying random shit that had no meaning what so ever.
Can I get an eye open up
Eazy locin' up
Smokin' up
Much dust like a nut what
Give it up for the real stuff
Shut the what up
Back the shut up what
Hustler from the hood hoe
Hopin' and mud rub
The finishin' touches
Would sure went rubbers
Comin' in bunches
Could serve like lunches
Hold ya horses here's where the source is
Not very tall but never took a short kid
With a clip to claw
Wouldn't draw Mcgraw
I trick a law before all and all I'm raw
A naughty shorty, sporty with a forty
A laddy takin' tours, just to plan an orgy
A nasty critter, any hoe hitter
Hated my babysitter cause she wouldn't let me hit her
Now get up on it, on and on get on it
And I will pump it, only if you want it.
WTF is this nigga talking about ? now you tell me if this is any better that waka's lyric's.
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eazy e was a weak rapper. R.I.P to him but he just got on records and said a bunch of nothing. he fucked up that bone record (for tha love of money)
Actually he wrote his verse on "Foe Tha Love Of Money". That's why it sucks.
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wtf ? if you dont like eazy e you dont like gangsta rap and the westcoast .
eazy e is the gangsta rap in its purest form . a genius
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eazy e was a weak rapper. R.I.P to him but he just got on records and said a bunch of nothing. he fucked up that bone record (for tha love of money)
look at this shit bro. this nigga saying random shit that had no meaning what so ever.
Can I get an eye open up
Eazy locin' up
Smokin' up
Much dust like a nut what
Give it up for the real stuff
Shut the what up
Back the shut up what
Hustler from the hood hoe
Hopin' and mud rub
The finishin' touches
Would sure went rubbers
Comin' in bunches
Could serve like lunches
Hold ya horses here's where the source is
Not very tall but never took a short kid
With a clip to claw
Wouldn't draw Mcgraw
I trick a law before all and all I'm raw
A naughty shorty, sporty with a forty
A laddy takin' tours, just to plan an orgy
A nasty critter, any hoe hitter
Hated my babysitter cause she wouldn't let me hit her
Now get up on it, on and on get on it
And I will pump it, only if you want it.
WTF is this nigga talking about ? now you tell me if this is any better that waka's lyric's.
just by reading that i can tell treach from naughty wrote that for him..
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he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
Your hip hop credibility is revoked if you think he could flow. And emotion on the mic? LOL. Eazy had no emotion, he played the same character on every song.
i'll take that as a compliment coming from u, considering ur a fucking hip-hop retard.
Name one song where he conveys an emotion other than wanting to fuck a bitch.
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Even though I've enjoyed Eazy E and Lil Eazy E's music in the past anyone saying that them or any of of Eazy E's kids are above mediocre is nuts.
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he's not talented as a rapper? he doesnt have one of the greatest mic presences of all time? his voice and flow aren't 10/10? get the fuck outa here....dude conveyed his emotion on the mic better than anyone in the game. it was more than just a flow, he brought tracks 2 life with real passion behind the mic. somethin lil eazy can only dream of. go bump an eazy track and then bump a track from lil eazy. now tell me who has more passion/soul on the mic.........nobody had it like eazy.
Your hip hop credibility is revoked if you think he could flow. And emotion on the mic? LOL. Eazy had no emotion, he played the same character on every song.
i'll take that as a compliment coming from u, considering ur a fucking hip-hop retard.
Name one song where he conveys an emotion other than wanting to fuck a bitch.
pretty much every fuckin verse he's ever rapped.
http://www.youtube.com/v/VsdLn46UXnA
if u cant take notice of his passionate mic presence, dont even reply...
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dont post on here , if you dont like Eazy E . Eazy E is the godfather the essence of gangsta rap
gangsta rap is an art from the streets . if you lookin for any pseudo intellectual words, read a fuckin book .
https://www.youtube.com/v/jJbTUg1LINI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJbTUg1LINI)
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I don't know if Lil Eazy was more talented than his father. They both never had much replay value to me.
The song Lil Eazy did with Bone shits on Eazy-E's entire discography though.
http://www.youtube.com/v/LEoacmm9rE0
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what the fuck
too much beating around the bush in here. i said eazy is not talented, not that his music sucked. i said that his son is a better craftsman as a rapper techically -- flow, lyrics, and subject matter (not to mention that his son acutally wrote his own shit,, not all of it but more than his fatehr ever did)
"ughh ughhhhh Eazy E is a legend, he a veteran, read book this is ruthless rap, read book this not book this eazy-e, no lyrics only emotions, he still talent, voice very awesome uuughhh he O.G. he O.G. uuugh" ---- the fuck. like that shit should even matter, weh it comes to objectivty in talent. there is no such thing as subjectivity when it comes to talent, either ur talented or ur not.. Eazy was clearly not "talented" wit his craft as a rapper on the mic, but he did do alota great songs
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str8. off tha streetz.. it gets no better.
huh? E had better shit than this....
imo yes.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
No he didn't.
check the credits.
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eazy was dope as fuck. no matter what's said about the man he built gangsta rap. and is the king of the west. he laid down foundation for a lot of shit and if it wasn't for him there'd be no west coast as it is now.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/2FRJE7g8wNY
fux wit it, children
classic. written by threat by the way. so if he didn't write his own on post n.w.a albums he would credited who wrote it i'm sure.
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all i know is that "letter to my homeboys" is one of the only rap songs i bump, at this moment
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
No he didn't.
check the credits.
Dirty Red ghostwrote all that shit.
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
He doesn't write his lyrics either. Gangsta Dre'sta has written a lot of songs for him actually.
eazy wrote on it's on and str8. off tha streetz.
No he didn't.
check the credits.
Dirty Red ghostwrote all that shit.
what he wrote he was credited for.
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what the fuck
too much beating around the bush in here. i said eazy is not talented, not that his music sucked. i said that his son is a better craftsman as a rapper techically -- flow, lyrics, and subject matter (not to mention that his son acutally wrote his own shit,, not all of it but more than his fatehr ever did)
"ughh ughhhhh Eazy E is a legend, he a veteran, read book this is ruthless rap, read book this not book this eazy-e, no lyrics only emotions, he still talent, voice very awesome uuughhh he O.G. he O.G. uuugh" ---- the fuck. like that shit should even matter, weh it comes to objectivty in talent. there is no such thing as subjectivity when it comes to talent, either ur talented or ur not.. Eazy was clearly not "talented" wit his craft as a rapper on the mic, but he did do alota great songs
bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
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here's a video of eazy-e rappin, followed by all three of his sons (Lil Eazy, E-3, and Yung Eazy)........u can see the drastic drop-off after Eazy's verse:
http://www.youtube.com/v/_eIxteKem4w
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fuck you michael your opinion don't count when it comes to hip hop. fuck outta here fag bait.
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fuck you michael your opinion don't count when it comes to hip hop. fuck outta here fag bait.
lol,
whatever, u fuckin yuppie.
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fuck you michael your opinion don't count when it comes to hip hop. fuck outta here fag bait.
lol,
whatever, u fuckin yuppie.
whatever fag bait. LOL.
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even after eazy was done wit n.w.a. and started writing himself(mc ren confirmed it) his lyrics were on point theres no gangsta rapper on the west that spit that gangsta shit like eazy. the flows on still a nigga, it's on, tha muthaphukkin real is serious.
not gonna take that with a grain of salt? Ren loves Eazy to death and would say anything to big ups Eazy.
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what the fuck
too much beating around the bush in here. i said eazy is not talented, not that his music sucked. i said that his son is a better craftsman as a rapper techically -- flow, lyrics, and subject matter (not to mention that his son acutally wrote his own shit,, not all of it but more than his fatehr ever did)
"ughh ughhhhh Eazy E is a legend, he a veteran, read book this is ruthless rap, read book this not book this eazy-e, no lyrics only emotions, he still talent, voice very awesome uuughhh he O.G. he O.G. uuugh" ---- the fuck. like that shit should even matter, weh it comes to objectivty in talent. there is no such thing as subjectivity when it comes to talent, either ur talented or ur not.. Eazy was clearly not "talented" wit his craft as a rapper on the mic, but he did do alota great songs
bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
Guerilla Black fine. Tha Realest was rapping before pac died and just has that voice not his fault. he is dope as fuck.
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That will teach you to have an opinion Michael!!!
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here's a video of eazy-e rappin, followed by all three of his sons (Lil Eazy, E-3, and Yung Eazy)........u can see the drastic drop-off after Eazy's verse:
http://www.youtube.com/v/_eIxteKem4w
Thanks for that^^^
Of those verses Eazy E clearly the best (goes without sayin of course) 'brutha that'll smother your mother' is one of the greatest openers in hiphop history..
My call is Young Eazy is the best of the sons..that clip makes me wanna hear more. Lil Eazy is average at best...and Baby Eazy is garbage.
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even after eazy was done wit n.w.a. and started writing himself(mc ren confirmed it) his lyrics were on point theres no gangsta rapper on the west that spit that gangsta shit like eazy. the flows on still a nigga, it's on, tha muthaphukkin real is serious.
not gonna take that with a grain of salt? Ren loves Eazy to death and would say anything to big ups Eazy.
what benefit would ren get for lying for eazy ?
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what the fuck
too much beating around the bush in here. i said eazy is not talented, not that his music sucked. i said that his son is a better craftsman as a rapper techically -- flow, lyrics, and subject matter (not to mention that his son acutally wrote his own shit,, not all of it but more than his fatehr ever did)
"ughh ughhhhh Eazy E is a legend, he a veteran, read book this is ruthless rap, read book this not book this eazy-e, no lyrics only emotions, he still talent, voice very awesome uuughhh he O.G. he O.G. uuugh" ---- the fuck. like that shit should even matter, weh it comes to objectivty in talent. there is no such thing as subjectivity when it comes to talent, either ur talented or ur not.. Eazy was clearly not "talented" wit his craft as a rapper on the mic, but he did do alota great songs
bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
Guerilla Black fine. Tha Realest was rapping before pac died and just has that voice not his fault. he is dope as fuck.
Realest is dope, but it's obvious he molded himself after 2pac...dude even has a 2pac tat on his body as well as other tats similar to pac's. it's not really a secret that 2pac influenced him drastically, i dunno how any1 can deny that.
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bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
It's not the same. Tupac and Biggie were ARTISTS. They wrote songs and mastered their craft. Eric was a great businessman. He had a great voice and was entertaining but he had no flow at all. He deserves the utmost respect for creating such an effective brand with the Ruthless label but his gifts weren't in rapping, they were in the business.
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bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
It's not the same. Tupac and Biggie were ARTISTS. They wrote songs and mastered their craft. Eric was a great businessman. He had a great voice and was entertaining but he had no flow at all. He deserves the utmost respect for creating such an effective brand with the Ruthless label but his gifts weren't in rapping, they were in the business.
This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
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bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
It's not the same. Tupac and Biggie were ARTISTS. They wrote songs and mastered their craft. Eric was a great businessman. He had a great voice and was entertaining but he had no flow at all. He deserves the utmost respect for creating such an effective brand with the Ruthless label but his gifts weren't in rapping, they were in the business.
who's to say eazy didn't or wouldn't of mastered his craft. imo his career was cut short unfortunately. next time someone interviews b.g. knocc out or dresta ask them who wrote eazy's shit.
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bottom line, eazy-e is better in every single aspect of rapping...even the shit that eazy wrote is better. as far as lil eazy, he aint half bad, but it's obvious that EVERY time he writes a verse, he thinks "how would my father have rapped this?"..shits obvious. it's almost like sayin tha realest is better than 2pac, or guerilla black is better than biggie. naah, son.
It's not the same. Tupac and Biggie were ARTISTS. They wrote songs and mastered their craft. Eric was a great businessman. He had a great voice and was entertaining but he had no flow at all. He deserves the utmost respect for creating such an effective brand with the Ruthless label but his gifts weren't in rapping, they were in the business.
what are u talkin about...check the tracks posted. those are dope flows.
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far.
LMAO...dumbass spice-2
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i cant believe some people think Eazy got no flow ! is it a joke or what ?
Eazy E got the best flow , fluid , unpredictable ,very rythmic ...
man, delete this thread . Eazy E was a genius
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i cant believe some people think Eazy got no flow ! is it a joke or what ?
Eazy E got the best flow , fluid , unpredictable ,very rythmic ...
man, delete this thread . Eazy E was a genius
but he didnt write all of his lyrics! his children must be better...
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i cant believe some people think Eazy got no flow ! is it a joke or what ?
Eazy E got the best flow , fluid , unpredictable ,very rhythmic ...
man, delete this thread . Eazy E was a genius
couldn't of said it better.
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Lyrically, yeah.... but his son will never reach the status of his father.... so who's more talented?
I've always like Eazy's flow, it was simple and different.
Eazy E >
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na, but fareal ---
exclude the legend/o.g.-status thing for a sec, n look at it from an objective standpoint --- Eazy was never talented as an artist or writer, but his son is
Difference between Eazy-E and his kids, which I don't think has been mentioned in this thread, was Eazy-E never wanted to be a rapper in the first place. Cube had written "Boyz n Da Hood" and tried to get several cats to rap it and Eazy had turned him down initially.
I'm not a Eazy E fan or think he was as great as some posters here think but this thread is coming from the same poster who said Mack 10 doesn't have a SINGLE dope solo song
90% of the posts on Dubcc have been for shock value purposes only for a while ....
The Troll Squad has taken over
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his son will never reach the status of his father.... so who's more talented?
status doesnt necessirly equal talent.
Black Rob will never reach P Diddy's status, but he has more talent
Bizzy Bone/Kokane will never reach Eazy-E's statuts, but they have more talent
Lil' Eazy E will never reach Eazy-E's, but he has more talent
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what im sayin is, im not tellin you naysayers what to like or not like.
but this mentality that u goes have is just weird.
u guys r cleary mixin up great/classic songs wit talent.
a euro-dance act from the early 90's like "2 Unlimited", have classic songs for days on their repertoire. but they sure as hell werent talented.
this example sums everythin up perfectly
i have dope/classic/enjoyable Eazy-E, Biz Markie, P Diddy, Lil Jon and 2 Unlimited-songs on my iPod, but i would never in a million years call these dudes talented
im sayin Nicc/Blue Magic,
u need to re-evaluate the way u look at things,
u clearly have some teenage-relationships wit some old ass classic Eazy-E songs, n its hinderin u to look at things objecitvely
or maybe im trippin,
but a far as im concerned - flow, lyrics, subject-matter are the basic cornerstones in evaluation of a talented hiphop-craftsman. (and not to mention - writing ur own shit).
this "he has a great voice/emotions/feelings"-crap is just some melodramatic bullshit
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There are degrees of talent like there are degrees of perception of talent.
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what do u mean?
like a scale?
like Eazy is 25percent talented, and 2pac is 50percent talented?
i dont understand
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what do u mean?
like a scale?
like Eazy is 25percent talented, and 2pac is 50percent talented?
i dont understand
Eazy was a talented performer. Some guys could do everything else but not be able to sell it on stage.
I could say Crooked is talentless as a writer coz his stuff is cheesy as fuck, you might still say he has talent because u like it.
Different person, different perception.
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yeah man, ur absolutely right.
this car is very talented in speed-racing, cause i think so
(http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/files/old-renault-1_189.jpg)
this man is very talented in marathon running, cause i think so
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/511010801_d83e358c0c.jpg)
analogy =
this hiphop-artist is very talented in rap, cause i think so
(http://mtown3.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/EAZY-E-psd9222.png)
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I said he was a talented performer.
Everything in your world is black and white...step out into the real world...
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relax, William
i know what u mean.
the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
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I don't know if Lil Eazy was more talented than his father. They both never had much replay value to me.
The song Lil Eazy did with Bone shits on Eazy-E's entire discography though.
http://www.youtube.com/v/LEoacmm9rE0
Quoted for truth.
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relax, William
i know what u mean.
the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
Ok but Lil Eazy is average at best, even by 2011 standards. Eazy E was just as good a rapper as say Dre...they share similar career traits in fact
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the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
performing is also a sizeable part of being a hip-hop artist. rocking crowds is one of the most important elements of hip-hop. so being a talented performer is part of being a talented rapper and should be taken into account as much as, say, being a talented lyricist. I wouldn't dare say that Eazy-E was a great rapper, hell as Classic Material pointed out he only did it to fill a void but in the end he got the job done and his music sure wasn't worthless. so Lil Eazy E may be a better rapper than his father but does it make Lil Eazy E's music better and more relevant than that of E's ? I don't know.
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simple lyrics doesn't mean wack ! hell no ;
blues, funk, hip hop, rock have a simple structure , its popular music
a lot of rappers use complicated lyrics but the final song is wack !
Eazy E got a dope flow and an extraordinary presence and that's the most important in art
. he probably didnt work his flow cause he sounded very natural ..a genius (A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination)
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the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
performing is also a sizeable part of being a hip-hop artist. rocking crowds is one of the most important elements of hip-hop. so being a talented performer is part of being a talented rapper and should be taken into account as much as, say, being a talented lyricist. I wouldn't dare say that Eazy-E was a great rapper, hell as Classic Material pointed out he only did it to fill a void but in the end he got the job done and his music sure wasn't worthless. so Lil Eazy E may be a better rapper than his father but does it make Lil Eazy E's music better and more relevant than that of E's ? I don't know.
no it doesnt, performing is just charisma/presence, nothin to do wit talent
performing is delivering ur bars to music on stage, or lipsyncing to ur music. dont gimme that "Master of the crowd/ceremonies" crap.
MF Doom and Kool G Rap
are some of the most skilled lyricists/rappers ever, and they couldnt rock shows even if they life depended on it
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the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
performing is also a sizeable part of being a hip-hop artist. rocking crowds is one of the most important elements of hip-hop. so being a talented performer is part of being a talented rapper and should be taken into account as much as, say, being a talented lyricist. I wouldn't dare say that Eazy-E was a great rapper, hell as Classic Material pointed out he only did it to fill a void but in the end he got the job done and his music sure wasn't worthless. so Lil Eazy E may be a better rapper than his father but does it make Lil Eazy E's music better and more relevant than that of E's ? I don't know.
no it doesnt, performing is just charisma/presence, nothin to do wit talent
performing is delivering ur bars to music on stage, or lipsyncing to ur music. dont gimme that "Master of the crowd/ceremonies" crap.
MF Doom and Kool G Rap
are some of the most skilled lyricists/rappers ever, and they couldnt rock shows even if they life depended on it
tal·ent/ˈtalənt/
Noun:
Natural aptitude or skill.
A person or people possessing such aptitude or skill: "the talent in their Toledo clubhouse".
performing, whether in the studio or on stage, is an important part of being a rapper. performing is a talent, just like songwriting is. there are good rappers that are poor performers, just like there are goods rappers that are poor lyricists. i don't know for other people, but to me, flowing is a part of performing, even if you don't have to have necessarily a good flow to be a good performer (you can make up for your lack of flow with others assets like charisma or presence).
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^^ yes !
and the presence is the most important and probably the most complicated because you cant really teach it
presence is the alchimy between form (flow etc..) and content (lyrics ..)
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or maybe im trippin,
yes
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relax, William
i know what u mean.
the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
as someone who raps and deals with countless rappers daily, lemme tell u, what u dont understand is that having the mic-presence of an eazy-e takes MAD talent....more talent than anything i've heard out of Lil Eazy. thats where ur trippin. breath-control, ups and downs, passion, FLOW...these all factor into the word TALENT. so Lil E being a monotone rapper who cannot deliver on the mic at the same level of his father has to do with TALENT.
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what im sayin is, im not tellin you naysayers what to like or not like.
but this mentality that u goes have is just weird.
u guys r cleary mixin up great/classic songs wit talent.
a euro-dance act from the early 90's like "2 Unlimited", have classic songs for days on their repertoire. but they sure as hell werent talented.
this example sums everythin up perfectly
i have dope/classic/enjoyable Eazy-E, Biz Markie, P Diddy, Lil Jon and 2 Unlimited-songs on my iPod, but i would never in a million years call these dudes talented
im sayin Nicc/Blue Magic,
u need to re-evaluate the way u look at things,
u clearly have some teenage-relationships wit some old ass classic Eazy-E songs, n its hinderin u to look at things objecitvely
or maybe im trippin,
but a far as im concerned - flow, lyrics, subject-matter are the basic cornerstones in evaluation of a talented hiphop-craftsman. (and not to mention - writing ur own shit).
this "he has a great voice/emotions/feelings"-crap is just some melodramatic bullshit
the man had talent. he was able to make millions of it and the talent of others also. he wrote the realest shit he ever wrote on 'tha muthaphukkin real' real introspective shit. even when niggas wrote for him it wasn't like that joint. you need to really sit and listen before you make such comments. how can you say the nigga ain't got no skills when he bombed on dre and snoop. remember your the same person who said mack 10 ain't got no dope shit. i don't believe you. str.8 off tha streetz.... was a great album by the way and he wrote most of it. no talent huh ?
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I don't agree with you here, Mike. But something you said on the first page is why you can't bring original ideas like this around here.
You said "forget his legendary/O.G. status for a minute". Motherfuckers here have no idea how to do that. All caught up in nostalgia & looking back. Shit, Brian said he still lives in 1996 lmao.
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meeeh...
:grumpy:
this thread failed.
i can c dat now, wit all of these melodramatic 70's and 80's-babies wit teenage-relationships to "Real compton city g's" and the ruthless-days, ganging up on me
im not bashin on Eazy, i love some of the songs,, but im sayin hes not talented like taht.
not even taht, i was tryin to compare him to his son --> Lil' Eazy E. that was the topic
like ChamClick said ---- >> you can't bring original ideas like this around here.
true, Lil Eazy aint got the same magnitude of a classic "song-catalogue" like his pops,, but if the kid was around and had neat Dre-production, n tailormade lyrics by the likes of Cube and Ren, back in the Ruthless-days,,,, ---> im sure he could've pulled it off better than his pops (not even taht, he wouldve wrote his own shit, n make it better)
Blue Magic/Nicc, u guys are not stupid.
i've seen ur posts about hiphop in diffrent threads so i already know, but stop wit this crazy "he-has-a-great voice/presence/charimsa" bullshit for a second, n look at it from an objective standpoint and understand what im sayin instead - he wasn't that talented wit his craft as an hiphop-artist. feel me on that
the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
performing is also a sizeable part of being a hip-hop artist. rocking crowds is one of the most important elements of hip-hop. so being a talented performer is part of being a talented rapper and should be taken into account as much as, say, being a talented lyricist. I wouldn't dare say that Eazy-E was a great rapper, hell as Classic Material pointed out he only did it to fill a void but in the end he got the job done and his music sure wasn't worthless. so Lil Eazy E may be a better rapper than his father but does it make Lil Eazy E's music better and more relevant than that of E's ? I don't know.
no it doesnt, performing is just charisma/presence, nothin to do wit talent
performing is delivering ur bars to music on stage, or lipsyncing to ur music. dont gimme that "Master of the crowd/ceremonies" crap.
MF Doom and Kool G Rap
are some of the most skilled lyricists/rappers ever, and they couldnt rock shows even if they life depended on it
tal·ent/ˈtalənt/
Noun:
Natural aptitude or skill.
A person or people possessing such aptitude or skill: "the talent in their Toledo clubhouse".
performing, whether in the studio or on stage, is an important part of being a rapper. performing is a talent, just like songwriting is. there are good rappers that are poor performers, just like there are goods rappers that are poor lyricists. i don't know for other people, but to me, flowing is a part of performing, even if you don't have to have necessarily a good flow to be a good performer (you can make up for your lack of flow with others assets like charisma or presence).
i understand your french mindframe to a certain extent,
but i still disagree wit you, François
back in the late 70's when hiphop was still a baby, Hip Hop was fractured on teh streets of NY. niggas didnt have no recording-studios, they were just performin the shit on-stage n on the streets..
hence, the word "master of teh crowd/ceremony", implyin the shit is a form of speech/peotry meant for live/open-mic performances.
in this day n age, a performer is just a performer, recycling the shit bar-for-bar on a beat on stage( to make matters worse, alotta niggas is lipsycnin to they shit wit playback) ---->>
havin nice capabilites as a performer on stage, doesnt equal a valid point to "talent" from a general perspective, and defnitely not an important factor/element in the artistry of hip-hop today.
my earlier example wit Kool G Rap and MF Doom served a valid point. same thing wit Canibus and Kurupt, these dudes are extremely talented (Gotti fell off) wit their craft - but these dudes are horrible on stage.
so the "performing"-shit means jack shit, and is not "important" as u put it, François
real is real, just think about it tho ;)
besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
smiling/poignant social activity,,,, deeep democra ,,,, and knowin when to look at the right n left camera etc etc, shit like taht
Babe The Pig is charmin than a muddafuca, but he is not talented - hes just a charmin and cute pig. u feel me?
Abraham Lincoln was a good speaker, but i dont call it talent. hes just a good speaker. social capabilities i.e.
///and i could give a damn if "2 Unlimited" performs their classic songs n be good at it, they still not talented objectively.
Biz Markie did a classic song "Pickkin Boogers", shit is enjoyable to this day, n im sure he pulls off a nice live-rendition of the song when hes on stage as well,, but dude is still not talented objecitvely.
ya dig?
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meeeh...
:grumpy:
this thread failed.
i can c dat now, wit all of these melodramatic 70's and 80's-babies wit teenage-relationships to "Real compton city g's" and the ruthless-days, ganging up on me
im not bashin on Eazy, i love some of the songs,, but im sayin hes not talented like taht.
not even taht, i was tryin to compare him to his son --> Lil' Eazy E. that was the topic
like ChamClick said ---- >> you can't bring original ideas like this around here.
true, Lil Eazy aint got the same magnitude of a classic "song-catalogue" like his pops,, but if the kid was around and had neat Dre-production, n tailormade lyrics by the likes of Cube and Ren, back in the Ruthless-days,,,, ---> im sure he could've pulled it off better than his pops (not even taht, he wouldve wrote his own shit, n make it better)
Blue Magic/Nicc, u guys are not stupid.
i've seen ur posts about hiphop in diffrent threads so i already know, but stop wit this crazy "he-has-a-great voice/presence/charimsa" bullshit for a second, n look at it from an objective standpoint and understand what im sayin instead - he wasn't that talented wit his craft as an hiphop-artist. feel me on that
the argument wasn't his skills as a live-performer, however
----> "rapper"
a less talented hiphop-artist (rapper, lyricsit, song-writer) can be a talented performer - hes just performin his songs, Lil Jon is a great performer. very energetic
performing is also a sizeable part of being a hip-hop artist. rocking crowds is one of the most important elements of hip-hop. so being a talented performer is part of being a talented rapper and should be taken into account as much as, say, being a talented lyricist. I wouldn't dare say that Eazy-E was a great rapper, hell as Classic Material pointed out he only did it to fill a void but in the end he got the job done and his music sure wasn't worthless. so Lil Eazy E may be a better rapper than his father but does it make Lil Eazy E's music better and more relevant than that of E's ? I don't know.
no it doesnt, performing is just charisma/presence, nothin to do wit talent
performing is delivering ur bars to music on stage, or lipsyncing to ur music. dont gimme that "Master of the crowd/ceremonies" crap.
MF Doom and Kool G Rap
are some of the most skilled lyricists/rappers ever, and they couldnt rock shows even if they life depended on it
tal·ent/ˈtalənt/
Noun:
Natural aptitude or skill.
A person or people possessing such aptitude or skill: "the talent in their Toledo clubhouse".
performing, whether in the studio or on stage, is an important part of being a rapper. performing is a talent, just like songwriting is. there are good rappers that are poor performers, just like there are goods rappers that are poor lyricists. i don't know for other people, but to me, flowing is a part of performing, even if you don't have to have necessarily a good flow to be a good performer (you can make up for your lack of flow with others assets like charisma or presence).
i understand your french mindframe to a certain extent,
but i still disagree wit you, François
back in the late 70's when hiphop was still a baby, Hip Hop was fractured on teh streets of NY. niggas didnt have no recording-studios, they were just performin the shit on-stage n on the streets..
hence, the word "master of teh crowd/ceremony", implyin the shit is a form of speech/peotry meant for live/open-mic performances.
in this day n age, a performer is just a performer, recycling the shit bar-for-bar on a beat on stage( to make matters worse, alotta niggas is lipsycnin to they shit wit playback) ---->>
havin nice capabilites as a performer on stage, doesnt equal a valid point to "talent" from a general perspective, and defnitely not an important factor/element in the artistry of hip-hop today.
my earlier example wit Kool G Rap and MF Doom served a valid point. same thing wit Canibus and Kurupt, these dudes are extremely talented (Gotti fell off) wit their craft - but these dudes are horrible on stage.
so the "performing"-shit means jack shit, and is not "important" as u put it, François
real is real, just think about it tho
besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
smiling/poignant social activity,,,, deeep democra ,,,, and knowin when to look at the right n left camera etc etc, shit like taht
Babe The Pig is charmin than a muddafuca, but he is not talented - hes just a charmin and cute pig
Abraham Lincoln was a good speaker, but i dont call it talent. hes just a good speaker. social capabilities i.e.
///and i could give a damn if "2 Unlimited" performs their classic songs n be good at it, they still not talented objectively.
Biz Markie did a classic song "Pickkin Boogers", shit is enjoyable to this day, n im sure he pulls off a nice live-rendition of the song when hes on stage as well,, but dude is still not talented.
ya dig?
eazy was dope and i don't care about his not being so lyrical at all he was a gangsta rapper and he delivered it well like no other and had flow like a muthafucka. he didn't intend on being a rapper as already mentioned but once he got the hang of it he got better in my opinion.
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what do u mean?
like a scale?
like Eazy is 25percent talented, and 2pac is 50percent talented?
i dont understand
eazy was just as talented and he laid the foundation for someone like tupac to have a voice.
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
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it takes a nation of wiggers to hold us back.
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at the end of the day, eazy-e was more talented than any of his children....thats all there is to it. maybe he wasnt as talented a WRITER (which may be debatable), but as a RAPPER - the complete package (flow, voice, delivery, expression, mic-presence, passion, etc.), eazy is lightyears ahead of his children.
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
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Radiotube is rambling in his threads (he a very funny/entertainin poster tho), i was tryin just tryin to expand this popular closeminded thinkin on this forum
and it failed
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
comparin Will Smth wit Eazy E is retarded, cause the cloth is so diffrent.
Will Smith has a presence on the mic, yes.
what makes Eazy's presence on the mic any more superior?
cause he had a light n high pitched voice?
do u even kow what "presence" is..?
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mike is right but the thing about eazy is he had vision.
thats a talent in itself.
same with rza...if you know soul music like i do you recognize most of wutangs biggest hits are simply loops with a damn snare on it...not complicated stuff at all.
he experimented as he got into the game more but to this day his biggest records are just simply loops, from a technical standpoint its like "i could have done that"
no you couldnt have...it took some one to put it all together like a puzzle and thats what eazy did.
he knew where the pieces went.
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
comparin Will Smth wit Eazy E is retarded, cause the cloth is so diffrent.
Will Smith has a presence on the mic, yes.
what makes Eazy's presence on the mic any more superior?
cause he had a light n high pitched voice?
do u even kow what "presence" is..?
Do you?
You seem to think anyone with charisma (like a tv/movie star just to illustrate the point) can do what Eazy did just as well over the mic :eh:
I've always wondered why people listen to acts like Joe Budden...I guess some just don't get how stupid they actually sound on the mic..
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the thing about eazy is he had vision.
thats a talent in itself.
^^^this
besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
comparin Will Smth wit Eazy E is retarded, cause the cloth is so diffrent.
Will Smith has a presence on the mic, yes.
what makes Eazy's presence on the mic any more superior?
cause he had a light n high pitched voice?
do u even kow what "presence" is..?
Do you?
You seem to think anyone with charisma (like a tv/movie star just to illustrate the point) can do what Eazy did just as well over the mic :eh:
I've always wondered why people listen to acts like Joe Budden...I guess some just don't get how stupid they actually sound on the mic..
im not even goin to answer you.
William, u have over 3500 posts about Dogg Pound-related content on this forum.
u are not allowed to speak about music anywhere on this forum. :grumpy:
yes, i know. this is rude, but also the truth
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the thing about eazy is he had vision.
thats a talent in itself.
^^^this
besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
comparin Will Smth wit Eazy E is retarded, cause the cloth is so diffrent.
Will Smith has a presence on the mic, yes.
what makes Eazy's presence on the mic any more superior?
cause he had a light n high pitched voice?
do u even kow what "presence" is..?
Do you?
You seem to think anyone with charisma (like a tv/movie star just to illustrate the point) can do what Eazy did just as well over the mic :eh:
I've always wondered why people listen to acts like Joe Budden...I guess some just don't get how stupid they actually sound on the mic..
im not even goin to answer you.
William, u have over 3500 posts about Dogg Pound-related content on this forum.
u are not allowed to speak about music anywhere on this forum. :grumpy:
yes, i know. this is rude, but also the truth
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
People will know the truth Mike. Don't go editing your posts now!
Nice try tho
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what do u mean "nice try"? its true..
ur knowledge in hiphop is limited to anecdotes and trivia about Snoop Dogg's asscrack and genetelia
ur "what is backpack-rap, guys?"-thread is still a personal classic to me
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tal·ent/ˈtalənt/
Noun:
Natural aptitude or skill.
A person or people possessing such aptitude or skill: "the talent in their Toledo clubhouse".
in this day n age, a performer is just a performer, recycling the shit bar-for-bar on a beat on stage( to make matters worse, alotta niggas is lipsycnin to they shit wit playback) ---->>
havin nice capabilites as a performer on stage, doesnt equal a valid point to "talent" from a general perspective, and defnitely not an important factor/element in the artistry of hip-hop today.
my earlier example wit Kool G Rap and MF Doom served a valid point. same thing wit Canibus and Kurupt, these dudes are extremely talented (Gotti fell off) wit their craft - but these dudes are horrible on stage.
so the "performing"-shit means jack shit, and is not "important" as u put it, François
real is real, just think about it tho ;)
besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
smiling/poignant social activity,,,, deeep democra ,,,, and knowin when to look at the right n left camera etc etc, shit like taht
///and i could give a damn if "2 Unlimited" performs their classic songs n be good at it, they still not talented objectively.
if we look at a talent as a "Natural aptitude or skill.", performing and having presence is definitely a talent that is not given to everyone. from my first point in this thread i said in understood where you're coming from, i just don't agree with you.
Babe The Pig is charmin than a muddafuca, but he is not talented - hes just a charmin and cute pig. u feel me?
Abraham Lincoln was a good speaker, but i dont call it talent. hes just a good speaker. social capabilities i.e.
well in Babe's pig being charming is a talent I guess, but it doesn't have anything to do with being a rap artist. same for lincoln, being an eloquent orator is definitely a talent in itself, but again we were talkin about being a rap artist.
but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
"mike is right but the thing about eazy is he had vision.
thats a talent in itself."
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
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besides, i dont even look at "being a good performer" as talent at all (unless these fuckin guys are actually dancing) ------->>> its just charisma, and presence.
Your thread failed, badly Mike (stop tryin to jock Radiotubes style anyway) but this point you made^^
We all know Will Smith got "charisma, and presence." ... so by rights he's just the same as Eazy-E on the Mic?
Wrong...and not even close.
no, hes not the same as Eazy.
he can rap as well, flow/he is talented. and he can perform his ass off, likeable like a muddafuca, plus he can bust moves n dance.
that was a bad comparison tho
How was it a bad comparison? You think Will Smith got the mic presence of Eazy-E?
Tell me you're joking..
comparin Will Smth wit Eazy E is retarded, cause the cloth is so diffrent.
Will Smith has a presence on the mic, yes.
what makes Eazy's presence on the mic any more superior?
cause he had a light n high pitched voice?
do u even kow what "presence" is..?
Do you?
You seem to think anyone with charisma (like a tv/movie star just to illustrate the point) can do what Eazy did just as well over the mic :eh:
I've always wondered why people listen to acts like Joe Budden...I guess some just don't get how stupid they actually sound on the mic..
They like a rapper you don't?!?! BURN EM!!!!!!
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
seriously...it's well known that eazy and dre always bumped heads over creative differences back in the ruthless days.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoQ-z46QF98
fast forward to 6:55 mark.
can someone hook this Lil eazy e song up, i think its called street lights
this is the so far hands down the best lil e track i have heard to date. someone please hook this banger up if its even out.
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
seriously...it's well known that eazy and dre always bumped heads over creative differences back in the ruthless days.
also a testemant to him being a talent and creative force in the group. and fuck what muthafuckas heard the nigga was thorough on the mic. period !!!!!!!!!!
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.
you crazy his flow was for from weak.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
i didn't say that.
im just saying, he was involved with the music, even though he wasn't writing the words.
take the niggaz4life album for example, you can tell eazy e's influence.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
he came up with ideas for the direction of HIS label and he also produced a couple tracks for Chronic 2000 but that's it, he gave the broad directions but didn't have any input in the booth when it came to crafting song. Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless. Suge kinda had that too, but never went that deep and far. he was more like an overseer that could redlight your project if he considered it too weak (cf. Danny Boy's album) and could greenlight your project if he felt it was the shit (like he did for Dogg Food, which wasn't the next project in line).
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.
you crazy his flow was for from weak.
You're fucking crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P6lIYgAZtg
First off its fairly obvious the D.O.C. wrote this for him and showed him how to flow over it. But even trained he's talking more than rapping. If you think this is impressive you have no idea what flow is in the first place.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
suge probably gave ideas but they didn't always use them. snoop said that about doggystyle.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
he came up with ideas for the direction of HIS label and he also produced a couple tracks for Chronic 2000 but that's it, he gave the broad directions but didn't have any input in the booth when it came to crafting song. Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless. Suge kinda had that too, but never went that deep and far. he was more like an overseer that could redlight your project if he considered it too weak (cf. Danny Boy's album) and could greenlight your project if he felt it was the shit (like he did for Dogg Food, which wasn't the next project in line).
And you know this how? You were in the studio with both Suge and Eazy and saw what they both did? Fuck outta here.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless.
mere speculation. no truth whatsoever
and smh at the Rick Rubin-comparison
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that's from reading interviews, anecdotes, autobiographies and biographies, seeing documentaries over the years, the pieces of the different puzzles come together
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.
you crazy his flow was for from weak.
You're fucking crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P6lIYgAZtg
First off its fairly obvious the D.O.C. wrote this for him and showed him how to flow over it. But even trained he's talking more than rapping. If you think this is impressive you have no idea what flow is in the first place.
great song btw. you forget eazy wasn't tryin to become a rapper so of course he had to be trained and he was trained by the best btw no different when d.o.c. was coaching snoop in the beginning of his career. and eazy still was great without them after the break up of n.w.a. (d.o.c. , dre, cube, ren ) he came back wit one of the best duo's ever b.g. knocc out and dresta and sold even more records (it's on was triple platinum then) he started writing his own shit the rhymes were better and his flow was sick. that's progress to me. being that he started not writing his rhymes.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless.
mere speculation. no truth whatsoever
and smh at the Rick Rubin-comparison
it is true. eazy was creative as hell he also had things in store for ruthless records like putting out a death row killa album, an album wit dj yella, signing b.g. knocc out and dresta, a movie he co wrote, etc. come on the man had raw talent he perfected it and made it work and that's the cold hard truth.
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bouli77,
Eazy E is not anythin like Rick Rubin. excuse my french, but that comment was extremely retarded.
the only simliarity i can c, is his entrepreneurship when it comes to his business n pimpin the heyday of the musicbizz on his own terms,,,,, but as a creative force in artistry dude will never be mentioned in the same sentance as Rubin.. not in a million years.. thats like comparin John Lennon wit Fred Durst :)
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Blue Magic, i got u. i got u
i fucks wit Eazy, dont sweat it, his songs,everthin..
but this thread is more about pointin out that dude isn't the 8th wonder of the world, when it comes to talent. dont read into it ;)
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just finished watching the eazy e interview wit tarrie b. 91- 92 era he confirmed writing his rhymes.
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bouli77,
Eazy E is not anythin like Rick Rubin. excuse my french, but that comment was extremely retarded.
the only simliarity i can c, is his entrepreneurship when it comes to his business n pimpin the heyday of the musicbizz on his own terms,,,,, but as a creative force in artistry dude will never be mentioned in the same sentance as Rubin.. not in a million years.. thats like comparin John Lennon wit Fred Durst :)
lol yeah i must admit the comparison was far fetched... my point being is that Eazy occasionally added his input on songs and that he contributed to the "construction" of a song... i said Rick Rubin cause Rubin was all about vision but yeah obviously he was not in the same league as Rubin, not at all.
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but this thread is more about pointin out that dude isn't the 8th wonder of the world, when it comes to talent. dont read into it ;)
Because you saw him getting so much love on the forum?
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
u just loooove playin devils advocate, huh? even if ur argument makes absolutely no sense.....suge had no input on the musical aspect of things. i'm speakin on production. nwa would be in the studio, workin on a song, and eazy would have input regarding how the beat should sound, or where the vocals drop, etc. etc. he had input on the production side of things. suge didn't. the end.
as for his flow, eazy was great...the way he rode a beat was always on point. his timing on a beat was impeccable. duno how any1 can deny this.
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bouli77,
Eazy E is not anythin like Rick Rubin. excuse my french, but that comment was extremely retarded.
the only simliarity i can c, is his entrepreneurship when it comes to his business n pimpin the heyday of the musicbizz on his own terms,,,,, but as a creative force in artistry dude will never be mentioned in the same sentance as Rubin.. not in a million years.. thats like comparin John Lennon wit Fred Durst :)
my point being is that Eazy occasionally added his input on songs and that he contributed to the "construction" of a song...
yea,
but i thought Dre did all of that.. the story wit Dre & Yella whoopin on his ass like a school-class session, durin the recording of "boyz n da hood".. he was like a puppet, n it took like 10 hours befor he nailed the verse. he had to record the song, "bar by bar", n punch the shit in ???
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This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.
I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.
How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.
You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.
lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.
With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?
it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.
Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.
you crazy his flow was for from weak.
You're fucking crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P6lIYgAZtg
First off its fairly obvious the D.O.C. wrote this for him and showed him how to flow over it. But even trained he's talking more than rapping. If you think this is impressive you have no idea what flow is in the first place.
check the songs i posted
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most people that dont recognize Ezay E talent use the same old shitty argument
they dont recongnize hs talent b/c he only talks about fuckin hoes, sellin dope , violence in the hood ,money etc
(no socio political issues, supposedly no matter...etc ) .. this people dont know shit about music , really .iam not going to explain why
ths thread is a failure
LMAO at comparing the jew rick rubin with Eazy E . public enemy, beasty boys, ll cool j created the spirit of Def jam records
not the fuckin jew and opportunist russell simmons,lyor cohen and rick rubin .
mixin heavy metal or punk music with rap aint a very original idea
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bouli77,
Eazy E is not anythin like Rick Rubin. excuse my french, but that comment was extremely retarded.
the only simliarity i can c, is his entrepreneurship when it comes to his business n pimpin the heyday of the musicbizz on his own terms,,,,, but as a creative force in artistry dude will never be mentioned in the same sentance as Rubin.. not in a million years.. thats like comparin John Lennon wit Fred Durst :)
my point being is that Eazy occasionally added his input on songs and that he contributed to the "construction" of a song...
yea,
but i thought Dre did all of that.. the story wit Dre & Yella whoopin on his ass like a school-class session, durin the recording of "boyz n da hood".. he was like a puppet, n it took like 10 hours befor he nailed the verse. he had to record the song, "bar by bar", n punch the shit in ???
in the beginning, yes...remember, they grew as a group together, and the more eazy got into the game, the more input he would have regarding production of the tracks. like i said, it's documented that eazy and dre bumped heads many times over creative differences.
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but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.
Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.
i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?
He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.
you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)
You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.
u just loooove playin devils advocate, huh? even if ur argument makes absolutely no sense.....suge had no input on the musical aspect of things. i'm speakin on production. nwa would be in the studio, workin on a song, and eazy would have input regarding how the beat should sound, or where the vocals drop, etc. etc. he had input on the production side of things. suge didn't. the end.
as for his flow, eazy was great...the way he rode a beat was always on point. his timing on a beat was impeccable. duno how any1 can deny this.
bullshit, i can name a shitload of songs where it sounds like easy struggfles with the beat.
paperboy wrote some hits for him. (doo wah ditty)
eazys creative process was to have the song writer go in the booth and rap it then easy ghost rap over it memorizing the flow and dictation. this is undisputable fact.
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^eazy got better with age...like classic material keeps pointing out, he got to a point in his career where he was writing most his own shit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoQ-z46QF98
fast forward to 6:55 mark.
can someone hook this Lil eazy e song up, i think its called street lights
this is the so far hands down the best lil e track i have heard to date. someone please hook this banger up if its even out.
lol damn yall totally ignored me on this, if no one has it does any one know how to rip this song ?