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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on December 16, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
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Mystikal just announced his signing to Cash Money this week, but the veteran MC has been in talks with the label’s head, Birdman, about joining the roster since before he went to prison back in 2004. Birdman tells XXLMag.com that the two even worked on songs for Mystikal’s 2001’s Tarantula album that were never released. Fastforward, after a few meetings earlier this year, the two finally agreed on a Cash Money Records recording contract.
“Just to be able to work with Mystikal, I’ll tell him I appreciate the opportunity,” Birdman says of the union. “All he’s been through and him being from the town and what we been through together, it means a lot to me, what we’re doing, building the brand and the team. I’m super excited, the team is super excited. 2012 we’re gonna let it go, we have a lot of great music on him. I want him to be bigger than he’s ever been. I have a lot of great music on him, we know it’s a lot of work. He knows it’s a lot f work. We’re gonna go hard.”
Despite both Birdman and Mystikal being from New Orleans and sharing a mutual admirations of each other’s music, the two are still getting to know each other. Back in the day, Cash Money and Mystikal’s label at the time, No Limit, had serious competition and there wasn’t too much mixing between the two camps allowed. But these days, all the beef is in the past.
“To work with Mystikal, we know each other, but don’t know each other,” Birdman details. “We followed each other for years, but we were on separate sides of the fence.
When we came together, it always was a mutual respect. He respects us and we respect him. We’re grown. We’re trying to feed our families, upgrade ourselves in life. Unfortunately, back in those days, we were just young and wild. All of us had this attitude and chip which really it didn’t make no sense. It would have been better for us to do things together and get money. But everything comes with time.
“It’s perfect timing for him and for us to be able to work with him,” continues Baby. “We’re just excited. I didn’t even look at the past. I didn’t think about what we went through. That shit’s so far behind us. We’re trying to provide for the team and the family. I think he’s a special talent like a Busta Rhymes or a Drake or a Wayne. He can’t be duplicated. His style is original. We gonna put out some visuals on him, his album is coming in May and we gonna roll.”
Last night, Funkmaster Flex debuted Mystikal’s first song under the YMCMB umbrella, “Original.” The track features Baby and Wayne.
“The song we did with me, him and Wayne was the first song we ever recorded,” Birdman says of the track. “I felt like ‘it would be a great way of embracing you. You with us. You on the team.’ We gonna do a lot of songs together. But it’s about him. I wanna see him do his thing, but we’ll do things together because we so team orientated. But I’m excited. He’s a talent. He can rap.”
In September, Mystikal told MTV News he had been working with former Cash Money artist and producer Mannie Fresh on some “monsters.” However, according to The Birdman, those records probably won’t be on the album. At least if it is up to him — which it is.
“I never heard none of them,” he said about the Mystikal/ Fresh collaborations. “But honestly, I don’t care to work with Fresh and none of his music. That’s [Mystikal’s] prerogative. If that’s what he wants to do, I’mma respect that. But if it’s on me, I want him with all new music.
No disrespect to Fresh, but we ain’t on that sound. He do what he do. We do what we do. I love the producers we have from the Cool and Dre to Detail to Mr. Beats to DJ Khaled. They have the sound that’s poppin’. The sound that’s putting 100,000 in these arenas every night. Boi-1da, the T-Minus —that’s what we working with.”
Birdman says Mystikal’s albums should be out in May, the same month as fellow new Cash Money signee Busta Rhymes. —Shaheem Reid
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
Same story over and over again. That's why you'll never (rarely) see former Cash Money artists on current Cash Money albums.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
You dont really believe that do you? Birdman is shady as fuck. What has there been now like ten producers that have sued him the last two years? And cash money's biggest hits and biggest sales came on songs produced by mannie fresh.fresh>>>>>> all those no names off the Carter IV production list. He's capable of making hits, he's proven it time and time again. This is just personal petty shit, has nothing to do with music.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
You dont really believe that do you? Birdman is shady as fuck. What has there been now like ten producers that have sued him the last two years? And cash money's biggest hits and biggest sales came on songs produced by mannie fresh.
I don't know about America, but in Europe Lil Wayne wasn't known at all till Go DJ (last Cash Money single that Mannie produced) came out. In fact, I remember reading around that time that Lil Wayne made his first trip overseas.
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Up until go dj Wayne was never really taken serious. I mean yeah his first solo went platinum but he was just seen as juvenile and bg's little homey. Hence why they were on his first single.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
You dont really believe that do you? Birdman is shady as fuck. What has there been now like ten producers that have sued him the last two years? And cash money's biggest hits and biggest sales came on songs produced by mannie fresh.fresh>>>>>> all those no names off the Carter IV production list. He's capable of making hits, he's proven it time and time again. This is just personal petty shit, has nothing to do with music.
word.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
You dont really believe that do you? Birdman is shady as fuck. What has there been now like ten producers that have sued him the last two years? And cash money's biggest hits and biggest sales came on songs produced by mannie fresh.fresh>>>>>> all those no names off the Carter IV production list. He's capable of making hits, he's proven it time and time again. This is just personal petty shit, has nothing to do with music.
400 degrees sold like 4 mill.
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Birdman cares about what will hit the biggest audience and thats all
You dont really believe that do you? Birdman is shady as fuck. What has there been now like ten producers that have sued him the last two years? And cash money's biggest hits and biggest sales came on songs produced by mannie fresh.fresh>>>>>> all those no names off the Carter IV production list. He's capable of making hits, he's proven it time and time again. This is just personal petty shit, has nothing to do with music.
Of course i believe that. Would i rather listen to manny than a lotta producers? yeah. Kids in high school and younger who listen to his music probably wouldnt though, at least in baby's mind. Im not saying manny cant make hits either, but hes not what i think of when i hear that cheap simplistic and/or sappy/poppy sound that kids are going for these days and that young money is putting out.
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I can't even remember the last Mannie Fresh beat I heard. I always thought the shit he did with Jeezy was dope though
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Y is Mystikal on Cash Money in the first place
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Despite both Birdman and Mystikal being from New Orleans and sharing a mutual admirations of each other’s music, the two are still getting to know each other. Back in the day, Cash Money and Mystikal’s label at the time, No Limit, had serious competition and there wasn’t too much mixing between the two camps allowed. But these days, all the beef is in the past.
Actually, the rivalry was between Big Boy & Cash Money before being with No Limit and it was harsher. There was open beef between them and Mystikal & The B.G.'z (BG & Wayne) traded disses back and forth before Mystikal signed with No Limit when he was on Big Boy.
sucks for Mannie... shit is completely intentional. Baby's flexin is muscles as usual and he must be gloating. Mystikal has huge mainstream appeal so Baby doesn't want Mannie to benefit from that. of course he said it's Mystikal's decision but i doubt he'll go against his boss's wish lol.
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at the same time, its a boss-move. bosses do what bosses do
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Y is Mystikal on Cash Money in the first place
Y won't you respond to Jimmy in your thread Arthur?
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at the same time, its a boss-move. bosses do what bosses do
yeah, exactly
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
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Mystikal has huge mainstream appea
Had Mainstream appeal. Mystikal hasn't been relevant in a decade and Manny Fresh hasn't been relevant for a while either. If they want to make money, I don't blame Birdman for steering Mystikal towards producers that can make a hit in 2012
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
you act like Mystikal has no free will and was forced to sign with Cash Money.......nobody forced him to join forces against Fresh
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
you act like Mystikal has no free will and was forced to sign with Cash Money.......nobody forced him to join forces against Fresh
Mystikal has a family to feed. Baby probably offered him a deal, do you think he really thought about that shit at the time?
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Birdman continues to blackball mannie. Fucking sad. The first time fresh has his name poppin again and working with mystikal, birdman comes in and takes it away.
you act like Mystikal has no free will and was forced to sign with Cash Money.......nobody forced him to join forces against Fresh
Mystikal isn't mannie freshs brother, it was a business relationship. He just got out of prison for what 8 years? He hadn't anyone else step up, he took the money and the record deal. It's a business at the end of the day. But garaunteed birdman only signed him to fuck over fresh, otherwise he would have signed him when he got out of jail.
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birdman rippin them all off. it's no mystery why the other niggas left.
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Yeah it's too bad. I saw some footage a few weeks back of Mystikal and Mannie in the studio just vibin w/ fresh on the drum machine and mystikal freestyling and it was :o :o :o
Birdman needs to quit hatin on Mannie, CMR would be NOTHING without him.
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Birdman is a clown.
To me, Cash Money is Manny Fresh, Juvenile and the Hot Boyz. I can't get with their new stuff at all.
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he gay..wayne gay...bow wow gay..the end.
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he gay..wayne gay...bow wow gay..the end.
lol.