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Title: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Gamestarr on July 25, 2012, 03:16:43 PM
She did somethin with Mel-Man a few years ago I think.. Cant remember exact time it dropped but there was also talks of an album?

Did it drop? Or whats goin on wit it?

Anybody know?
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 25, 2012, 03:18:54 PM
Delayed I guess.

Last news was about an album with DJ Premier dropping Summer 2011
http://www.djpremierblog.com/2011/04/03/lady-of-rage-upcoming-album-is-95-fixed-by-dj-premier/


Album is long overdue, and Rage still got it.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 25, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
she just did a song with Crooked I recently that was cut off the Psalm cd
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 25, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
She did somethin with Mel-Man a few years ago I think.. Cant remember exact time it dropped but there was also talks of an album?

Did it drop? Or whats goin on wit it?

Anybody know?

never dropped (yet?), she still supposed to be on Primo's label as far as I know & project's (officially) is not shelved so maybe one day we'll have the pleasure to listen to it?
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 27, 2012, 02:38:08 AM
Intersting 2 Hear Lady Of Rage And Crooked I On Tha Same Track, Who Laced Tha Beat?
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 03:04:39 AM
It's criminal Rage didn't blow up after Necessary Roughness. Death Row fully slept on her potential and should've got an album out in 94/95 after Afro Puffs.

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food but 'typical' West Coast fans wouldn't agree.

Most slept on artist in the camp.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 03:20:57 AM
It's criminal Rage didn't blow up after Necessary Roughness. Death Row fully slept on her potential and should've got an album out in 94/95 after Afro Puffs.

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food but 'typical' West Coast fans wouldn't agree.

Most slept on artist in the camp.

They slept on Nate Dogg's solo & Daz's solo too. & Later on with Tha Row "2nd Dynasty" they slept on EVERYONE but Kurupt (that is Crooked I & Eastwood)
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 04:27:12 AM
True dat!! I might bump Nates solo today to compare
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Invincible on July 27, 2012, 06:20:31 AM
You're going to be waiting a long time for this album. Primo still hasn't finished an album that he started in 2007.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: doggfather on July 27, 2012, 06:23:16 AM
You're going to be waiting a long time for this album. Primo still hasn't finished an album that he started in 2007.


just like Eiht's album...
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 06:31:31 AM
It could just be the "there's no money in rap" effect
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Gamestarr on July 27, 2012, 06:35:40 AM
You're going to be waiting a long time for this album. Primo still hasn't finished an album that he started in 2007.

Thanks for the replies yall. I was hopin somethin was cookin though.. shiit..


Yeah but hopefully she doesnt wait forever to get some premier beats.

There are other cats lacin bangers today.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 27, 2012, 08:57:55 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 08:59:22 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

Care to elaborate Hack?
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 09:02:25 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

No need to use derogatory words like retarded, to each his own opinion, but these three albums clealy don't compare as equals.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 27, 2012, 09:03:29 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

Care to elaborate Hack?


doggystyle
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dogg food.
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necessary roughness



there's a food chain for you lol
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 09:05:22 AM
something like that indeed.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 09:06:16 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

No need to use derogatory words like retarded, to each his own opinion, but these three albums clealy don't compare as equals.

Doggystyle would be streets ahead if it wasn't so limited lyrically. A few tracks in you know you've heard Snoops repertoire.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Gamestarr on July 27, 2012, 09:28:36 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

No need to use derogatory words like retarded, to each his own opinion, but these three albums clealy don't compare as equals.

Doggystyle would be streets ahead if it wasn't so limited lyrically. A few tracks in you know you've heard Snoops repertoire.

true.. what did Crook say? somethin like ''Fo shizzle my nizzle fo sheezy nephew // damn thats that niggas first verse and his next two''  ;D
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 09:31:25 AM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.

Yes but this is RAP music. Lyrics = to everything else.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 27, 2012, 09:47:52 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

No need to use derogatory words like retarded, to each his own opinion, but these three albums clealy don't compare as equals.

Doggystyle would be streets ahead if it wasn't so limited lyrically. A few tracks in you know you've heard Snoops repertoire.

true.. what did Crook say? somethin like ''Fo shizzle my nizzle fo sheezy nephew // damn thats that niggas first verse and his next two''  ;D

:D


with that said Doggystyle didn't need lyrical perfection with those beats
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 09:53:08 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food

easily your most retarded post ever and that says a lot

No need to use derogatory words like retarded, to each his own opinion, but these three albums clealy don't compare as equals.

Doggystyle would be streets ahead if it wasn't so limited lyrically. A few tracks in you know you've heard Snoops repertoire.

true.. what did Crook say? somethin like ''Fo shizzle my nizzle fo sheezy nephew // damn thats that niggas first verse and his next two''  ;D

:D


with that said Doggystyle didn't need lyrical perfection with those beats

It IS a really great album, but it's just a great album. Its not some mythical thing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 10:03:32 AM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.

Yes but this is RAP music. Lyrics = to everything else.

The wEst (with a few noticeable exceptions) is not best known for his lyricism, but for its music, the vocals are important of course, but they more seen as another instrument to complement the music, while on the East, (all of them aren't lyrical geniuses eirther) they can rap over the most simplistic beat which would be "unacceptable" (fr lack of better word) for the West, or un-sophisticated if you prefer... the West has always been more musical & that's what made it stand out & successful to begin with.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 10:06:41 AM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.

Yes but this is RAP music. Lyrics = to everything else.

The wEst (with a few noticeable exceptions) is not best known for his lyricism, but for its music, the vocals are important of course, but they more seen as another instrument to complement the music, while on the East, (all of them aren't lyrical geniuses eirther) they can rap over the most simplistic beat which would be "unacceptable" (fr lack of better word) for the West, or un-sophisticated if you prefer... the West has always been more musical & that's what made it stand out & successful to begin with.

This relates exactly to my original comment - for this reason Rage has been criminally slept on.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on July 27, 2012, 10:30:22 AM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.

Yes but this is RAP music. Lyrics = to everything else.

The wEst (with a few noticeable exceptions) is not best known for his lyricism, but for its music, the vocals are important of course, but they more seen as another instrument to complement the music, while on the East, (all of them aren't lyrical geniuses eirther) they can rap over the most simplistic beat which would be "unacceptable" (fr lack of better word) for the West, or un-sophisticated if you prefer... the West has always been more musical & that's what made it stand out & successful to begin with.

This relates exactly to my original comment - for this reason Rage has been criminally slept on.

I DO agree on that, just not on the albums being equals though.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 27, 2012, 10:39:34 AM
Doggystyle is a top 5 rap album ever


Rage's cd isn't a top 100 rap album ever
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 27, 2012, 10:53:54 AM
Doggystyle is a top 5 rap album ever

Saying Doggystyle is top 5 rap albums ever, doesn't say a lot for the genre.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 27, 2012, 07:21:54 PM
what you hear & listen to first & foremost in the MUSIC, the beats, the productions. & in that field, you know how to rate them albums, as #1, #2 & #3.

Yes but this is RAP music. Lyrics = to everything else.

lol, fuck outta here, u know as much about RAP music not related to DPG/aftermaht/DeathRow, as u do about fresh air outside of ur window -
meaning, nothing
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 27, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
saying Doggystyle isn't one of the top 5 CDs ever is like saying the Yankees aren't the best baseball team ever or like saying Crooked I isn't the best lyricist from the LBC  8)
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: smp4life on July 28, 2012, 04:00:46 AM
Rage can rap her ass off but Necessary Roughness suffered from lack of production/ direction. Premo beats aren't going to cut it. They should have had the second string produce on that, like Sooperfly or something. Microphone Pon Coc was dope.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 28, 2012, 10:28:20 AM
Rage can rap her ass off but Necessary Roughness suffered from lack of production/ direction. Premo beats aren't going to cut it. They should have had the second string produce on that, like Sooperfly or something. Microphone Pon Coc was dope.

Rage can rap her ass off and that was the main strength of the album. Having said that Big Bad Lady (Rock On) and No Shorts are some of Death Rows finest.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 28, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
but the fact you compared it to DOGGYSTYLE is a laugh and a half
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 28, 2012, 12:52:05 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 28, 2012, 04:05:58 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO
exactly what i said lol
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 28, 2012, 10:54:25 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: D-Nice on July 29, 2012, 01:04:44 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.

Agreed from a lyrical standpoint. From a musical standpoint though, her album comes after those. It's a shame because if she should have dropped after Doggystyle we would not be even having this discussion. Easily in my top 10 DOA MCs
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Gamestarr on July 29, 2012, 04:04:32 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.

Agreed from a lyrical standpoint. From a musical standpoint though, her album comes after those. It's a shame because if she should have dropped after Doggystyle we would not be even having this discussion. Easily in my top 10 DOA MCs

are you bein serious right now? lol

please list your top 10!
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 10:13:25 AM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 29, 2012, 10:14:47 AM
yeah Rage's album was full of WACK beats with a few dope songs sprinkled in  (microphone pon cock, big bad lady etc)


that Snoop/Daz song was wack because we heard the sample used MUCH better that same year by Notorious BIG on Long Kiss
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 12:15:22 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
your analogy is weak.
u basicaly try to evaluate Rage's album as classic/"better than Doggysytle" objectively or soemthing (because the lyrics were dope),
even tho ur just using ur own subjectivity as a blueprint (which isnt relevant).

 ur stupid
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 12:30:17 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 12:44:31 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
^okay,   :)
good for u, now kill ur incohesive rambling & "Seven samurai"-comparisons,  n go make a thread bout how much u think the new Rick Ross-album is lyrical.
ur hiphop-related opinions & attempts at "knowin-what-ur-talkin-about" are as meaningful/retarded as MekkanRefugee's


Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
she just did a song with Crooked I recently that was cut off the Psalm cd

i want to hear it
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 29, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
she just did a song with Crooked I recently that was cut off the Psalm cd

i want to hear it

me too

Daz also did a song with Crooked for that project too
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 01:37:47 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 01:47:42 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 02:18:04 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics... it's not that i'm saying "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are better than "necessary roughness". theyr'e simply on another level. furthermore, "dogg food" had it's share of dope lyricism, as well. any way u slice it up, "necessary roughness" doesnt measure up to "doggystyle" and "dogg food". and i'm pretty sure rage will tell u this herself, as well as every1 who worked on those albums.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 29, 2012, 02:21:16 PM
such a shame Rage never dropped an LP when Afro Puffs dropped
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 02:58:11 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint.  

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 03:04:29 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint. 

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.


not true...production value is what makes an album like "doggystyle". if "doggystyle" was recorded on a pc mic with the same exact lyrics, it would be complete shit.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 03:06:01 PM
yup, you evaluate greatness in hiphop-albums based on lyrics and musicality. Rage mightve rapped her ass off on that record, but it doesnt prove anythin musicaly
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 03:08:12 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint. 

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.


not true...production value is what makes an album like "doggystyle". if "doggystyle" was recorded on a pc mic with the same exact lyrics, it would be complete shit.

Yeah Doggystyle sounds great, full of memorable tunes, catchy, funny, entertaining, radio friendly, great features.

Weak point is Snoop.

Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...and there ARE
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 03:11:02 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...
and there ARE






^
and Lady Of Rage's album isnt
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 03:11:50 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...
and there ARE






^
and Lady Of Rage's album isnt

I never said it was.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 03:20:31 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint. 

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.


not true...production value is what makes an album like "doggystyle". if "doggystyle" was recorded on a pc mic with the same exact lyrics, it would be complete shit.

Yeah Doggystyle sounds great, full of memorable tunes, catchy, funny, entertaining, radio friendly, great features.

Weak point is Snoop.

Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...and there ARE


there is no better representation of west coast hip-hop from that time period...it was perfectly produced, and the lyrics are what they are. simple, but effective. it is the perfect album and they got exactly what they were going for. it's a staple and one of the most influential albums in west coast hip-hop and is definitely a 5/5 (or 10/10, whatever u wanna call it). u should know this by now. comparing it to "necessary roughness" is just weird.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 03:23:04 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint. 

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.


not true...production value is what makes an album like "doggystyle". if "doggystyle" was recorded on a pc mic with the same exact lyrics, it would be complete shit.

Yeah Doggystyle sounds great, full of memorable tunes, catchy, funny, entertaining, radio friendly, great features.

Weak point is Snoop.

Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...and there ARE


there is no better representation of west coast hip-hop from that time period...it was perfectly produced, and the lyrics are what they are. simple, but effective. it is the perfect album and they got exactly what they were going for. it's a staple and one of the most influential albums in west coast hip-hop and is definitely a 5/5 (or 10/10, whatever u wanna call it). u should know this by now. comparing it to "necessary roughness" is just weird.

And what happens if you rate The Chronic higher? You give it a 6/5?
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums


^lol, what do u mean? so i cant say that any otehr albums are 10/10, if "Doggsytle" is a 10/10 (which it is)?

ur self-proclamied hiphop-"connoisseur" act is just retarded & ridiculous.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 29, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
chronic aint better than DS
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 29, 2012, 03:28:06 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums


^lol, what do u mean? so i cant say that any otehr albums are 10/10, if "Doggsytle" is a 10/10 (which it is)?

ur self-proclamied hiphop-"connoisseur" act is just retarded & ridiculous.

Do you know what the word better means Mykhailo?


if your scale only goes to 10, you can't give another album more.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Sccit on July 29, 2012, 03:30:29 PM

Necessary Roughness = Doggystyle = Dogg Food


wtf? LMAO

True stories. Rage is the best spitter in the camp (rivalled only by Kurupts best verses). Doggystyle is party records and funk and radio friendly shit. Dogg Chit is tight rappin and str8 G-shit. Necessary Roughness is a different class of rappin altogether, but i guess doesnt fit the 'West Coast' formular for people. All have their qualities.


There are thousands of CDs that are lyrically better than "doggystyle"... As far as production value goes, it's not even close. Rages album was a disappointment. While its not a bad album, it's nowhere near classic. I'd say it's good, but if it came out when it was supposed to, it woulda been much better from a production standpoint. 

Doggystyle being a classic record doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece.


(http://s15.postimage.org/49qvdjfa3/220px_Top_Gun_Movie.jpg)<----- Classic film

(http://s11.postimage.org/tkc3g0gmr/Seven_Samurai.jpg)<------ Masterpiece

lol...i dunno what ur doing on this forum if u dont realize the importance of "doggystyle" to west coast hip-hop.

I never said Doggystyle wasn't a classic.

Is Dogg Food considered a classic anywhere other than amongst genre fans? Not all great albums fall under the spotlight.

Rage = slept on. Thats my point.


at the end of the day, "doggystyle" and "dogg food" are on another level than "necessary roughness"

If you value production over lyrics IMO


not really...lyrics aint shit without production value. so as much as u value lyrics, someone could write a lyrical masterpiece, but it would come out as shit without a proper production team producing/mixing/mastering your lyrics...

And similarly a production masterpiece like Doggystyle comes out only as good as a great sounding record, with fairly average lyrics.

The logic works both ways.


not true...production value is what makes an album like "doggystyle". if "doggystyle" was recorded on a pc mic with the same exact lyrics, it would be complete shit.

Yeah Doggystyle sounds great, full of memorable tunes, catchy, funny, entertaining, radio friendly, great features.

Weak point is Snoop.

Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums...and there ARE


there is no better representation of west coast hip-hop from that time period...it was perfectly produced, and the lyrics are what they are. simple, but effective. it is the perfect album and they got exactly what they were going for. it's a staple and one of the most influential albums in west coast hip-hop and is definitely a 5/5 (or 10/10, whatever u wanna call it). u should know this by now. comparing it to "necessary roughness" is just weird.

And what happens if you rate The Chronic higher? You give it a 6/5?


to me, they are both on the same level. u could give one 9.9/10 and the other a 10/10....but rage isnt even in the equation. that album would be lucky 2 get an 8/10.
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 29, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums


^lol, what do u mean? so i cant say that any otehr albums are 10/10, if "Doggsytle" is a 10/10 (which it is)?

ur self-proclamied hiphop-"connoisseur" act is just retarded & ridiculous.

if your scale only goes to 10, you can't give another album more.

no offense,
but see, this is just one of the reasons why u get kicked around on this forum so much.
u are absolutely retarded..   :laugh:


"Gladiator can't be as good as Spartacus. why? ..because i already gave Gladiator a 10 in rating .."
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 29, 2012, 03:41:12 PM
Saying Doggystyle is 10/10 album is also like saying there are no better albums


^lol, what do u mean? so i cant say that any otehr albums are 10/10, if "Doggsytle" is a 10/10 (which it is)?

ur self-proclamied hiphop-"connoisseur" act is just retarded & ridiculous.

if your scale only goes to 10, you can't give another album more.

no offense,
but see, this is just one of the reasons why u get kicked around on this forum so much.
u are absolutely retarded..   :laugh:


"Gladiator can't be as good as Spartacus. why? ..because i already gave Gladiator a 10 in rating .."

yo mike,  you are my e-friend and all that jazz but for fucks sake please don't hijack this thread lol


we have a good discussion going on here without it turning into Mike vs Will again



i do agree that it is mega retarded for someone to say Rage's cd is equal to Snoop's in any way shape or form besides multi syllabic rhymes
Title: Re: Sup with the Rage project?
Post by: Will_B on July 30, 2012, 08:47:01 AM
Its ok, English is Mikes 3rd language.

His strengths are MS-DOS programming and not getting the point.


I honestly thought at least numbers were universal in our languages though. When asked how much he liked Terrace Martins latest EP 'Oral Sax' he replied 137%