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Title: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 07, 2012, 10:36:26 AM
what yall think..if Dre stayed on Ruthless long enough to co-produced these albums, would they have been in the top 5 classic west coast albums?..

p.s. Black Mafia Life is underrated as fuck  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
uncle sam is one of the top 5 classic albums in the west w out dre.


its every bit as good as doggystyle with more substance to the material


1chronic
2straight outta compton
3doggystyle/uncle sam
4eazy duz it
5amerikkkas most
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 10:42:57 AM
my bad swap 3 and four on my list
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 11:02:33 AM
uncle sam is one of the top 5 classic albums in the west w out dre.


its every bit as good as doggystyle with more substance to the material


1chronic
2straight outta compton
3doggystyle/uncle sam
4eazy duz it
5amerikkkas most
:grumpy:


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ce/2Pac_Makaveli-The_Don_Killuminati_front.jpg/220px-2Pac_Makaveli-The_Don_Killuminati_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
u mad cuz pacs albums aint on the list?

the only one eligible was me against the world and that album had a decidedly east coast influence.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 11:17:18 AM
u mad cuz pacs albums aint on the list?

the only one eligible was me against the world and that album had a decidedly east coast influence.

makaveli = best album ever  8)


far better than uncle sams curse, which IMO is ATL's third best album.  i'd take Livin Like Hustlers #1 because it had no weak songs.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
IMO YOP is wrong hack.


makaveli is an incredible album for the amount of time he recorded it in but its flaws are what kind of make it so endearing. to be honest pac kind of transends costal lines because at diff times he was fucking around on both coasts and hes just fucking larger then hip hop. even in 96 it was weird for me to view him as a westcoast artist because the pac i was loving was rapping over eazy mo bee tracks and shit i had to get accustomed to the hollywood tupac as time would go on.


i have alot of single songs i liked on ATL previous albums but this one was conceptual and seemed to be more cohesive kmg really shined on that one too
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on August 07, 2012, 12:36:32 PM
here's my top 5 westcoast or westcoast influenced albums alltime:

1 NIGGAZ4LIFE (IT CHANGED THE GAME COMPLETELY)
2 KILLUMINATI: 7TH DAY THEORY (DEEPEST, DARKEST & MOST SPIRITUAL ALBUM EVER)
3 STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON (OPENED THE DOORS WIDE OPEN FOR THE WESTCOAST)
4 AMERIKKKA'S MOST WANTED & DEATH CERTIFICATE (IT RE-CHANGED THE GAME ALONG WITH NIGGAZ4LIFE & ELEVATED THE BAR)  
5 NO ONE CAN DO IT BETTER (LYRICAL MASTERPIECE BY THE DOC & DRE)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 07, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

yeah

songs like fuck the world, it aint easy, heavy in the game and death around the corner were west coast sounding to me  ???


but then Pac had Easy Mo Bee bless him with some east coast beats (if i die tonight and temptations)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 07, 2012, 01:20:42 PM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

yeah

songs like fuck the world, it aint easy, heavy in the game and death around the corner were west coast sounding to me  ???


but then Pac had Easy Mo Bee bless him with some east coast beats (if i die tonight and temptations)

outlawww outtlaawww

they live in the citttyyyyyy that shit bay pac is bay all day
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: HighEyeCue on August 07, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
IMO Black Mafia Life > Uncle Sam's Curse but both are classic 8)

I know this is a west coast board but Pac's best album was MATW
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

Lol no.

Regulate did big numbers but his skills were ass on the Mic. No cube album is better then amerikkkas most.

Sales don't always equate to classic records
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 07, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
uncle sam's curse is one of the top 5 classic albums in the west without dre.

1.chronic
2.efil4zaggin
3.doggystyle/uncle sam
4.eazy duz it
5.straight outta compton
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 01:41:04 PM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

yeah

songs like fuck the world, it aint easy, heavy in the game and death around the corner were west coast sounding to me  ???


but then Pac had Easy Mo Bee bless him with some east coast beats (if i die tonight and temptations)

outlawww outtlaawww

they live in the citttyyyyyy that shit bay pac is bay all day

Your a moron...that's reggae inspired and they say "the game ain't the saaaaaame"


That awkward moment you don't know the lyrics to ur fave songs
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 02:27:21 PM
id have to say:


1-makaveli
2-chronic
3-doggystyle
4-all eyez on me
5-safe + sound
6a-dogg food
6b-me against the world
8-death certificate
9-eazy e's 187umm dr. dre killa
10-niggaz4life



all better than uncle sams curse in my opinion
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 02:54:54 PM
Uncle sam's curse definitely one of the top 5 albums WEST COAST. First album to really introduce the G-funk sound so it has to be one of the 5 monumental records WEST COAST HISTORY. Record sales don't equate top albums that stuff is based on markting and pay ola. Warren G got his G-funk from ATL hutch coined the name G-funk and besides that regulate record was disco.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
have a stack prop my dude
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 03:00:43 PM
All eyez on me has the better personality not the better record as far as concept music and sound. safe+ sound doesn't haven't enough weight on the record. Dogg food was too scattered and goofy eazy e 187umm dre killa was a nice record but the beef with the row gave the record it's buzz and hype also most of the 2pac records are him personally as the persona not really mega reocrds. I would say the chronic,niggaz4life,doggystyle,death certificate and uncle sam's curse 5 records that changed the west coast sound conceptually and musically.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
all that shit is so true.


there are some albums that are personal favorites of mine but i can be objective enough to see how another album is superior...for instance i personally prefer efi4zaggin over straight outta compton but can recognize that SOC is the superior album because of its impact left on the culture as well as its longevity and relevance to society.

i prefer doggystyle to the chronic for those same reasons but would never say doggystyle is a superior album to the chronic because after the chronic dropped hip hop was forever changed where as doggystyle was just a continuation of the blueprint the chronic album laid down.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
All eyez on me has the better personality not the better record as far as concept music and sound. safe+ sound doesn't haven't enough weight on the record. Dogg food was too scattered and goofy eazy e 187umm dre killa was a nice record but the beef with the row gave the record it's buzz and hype also most of the 2pac records are him personally as the persona not really mega reocrds. I would say the chronic,niggaz4life,doggystyle,death certificate and uncle sam's curse 5 records that changed the west coast sound conceptually and musically.

all eyez on me disc 1 alone is better than uncle sams curse


disc 2 alone is at least equal, if not better thanks to Picture Me Rolling and Can't C Me


Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 03:15:50 PM
All eyez on me has the better personality not the better record as far as concept music and sound. safe+ sound doesn't haven't enough weight on the record. Dogg food was too scattered and goofy eazy e 187umm dre killa was a nice record but the beef with the row gave the record it's buzz and hype also most of the 2pac records are him personally as the persona not really mega reocrds. I would say the chronic,niggaz4life,doggystyle,death certificate and uncle sam's curse 5 records that changed the west coast sound conceptually and musically.

all eyez on me disc 1 alone is better than uncle sams curse


disc 2 alone is at least equal, if not better thanks to Picture Me Rolling and Can't C Me



Naw Bro you like pac because of the persona, overrall pac doesn't make better records than uncle sam's curse comparing the 2 albums. 2pac got put on the gangsta tip through ATL his first gangsta stuff was recorded with ATL before that his was clowning around wit the underground. Where you think Thug life came from? it came from Black mafia life, at one time the two cliques were one in the same.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 07, 2012, 03:23:47 PM
most muthafuckers dont know ATL's influence on the artists they look up to the most


lets just say ATL was like daddies to snoop, warren g, nate dogg and alotta other people..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
most muthafuckers dont know ATL's influence on the artists they look up to the most


lets just say ATL was like daddies to snoop, warren g, nate dogg and alotta other people..
REAL TALK! G-funk came from the ATL camp actually snoop and warren g were in that camp which is why the sound was so similar and everybody on both sides had the same slang and ideas it ws all one clique as with 2pac thug life came out of black mafia life 2pac was the first nigga to say G-funk and that was on call it what you want an ATL record which was recorded before the chronic was even made.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 07, 2012, 03:30:01 PM
All eyez on me has the better personality not the better record as far as concept music and sound. safe+ sound doesn't haven't enough weight on the record. Dogg food was too scattered and goofy eazy e 187umm dre killa was a nice record but the beef with the row gave the record it's buzz and hype also most of the 2pac records are him personally as the persona not really mega reocrds. I would say the chronic,niggaz4life,doggystyle,death certificate and uncle sam's curse 5 records that changed the west coast sound conceptually and musically.

all eyez on me disc 1 alone is better than uncle sams curse


disc 2 alone is at least equal, if not better thanks to Picture Me Rolling and Can't C Me



Naw Bro you like pac because of the persona, overrall pac doesn't make better records than uncle sam's curse comparing the 2 albums. 2pac got put on the gangsta tip through ATL his first gangsta stuff was recorded with ATL before that his was clowning around wit the underground. Where you think Thug life came from? it came from Black mafia life, at one time the two cliques were one in the same.
LOL truth.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
All eyez on me has the better personality not the better record as far as concept music and sound. safe+ sound doesn't haven't enough weight on the record. Dogg food was too scattered and goofy eazy e 187umm dre killa was a nice record but the beef with the row gave the record it's buzz and hype also most of the 2pac records are him personally as the persona not really mega reocrds. I would say the chronic,niggaz4life,doggystyle,death certificate and uncle sam's curse 5 records that changed the west coast sound conceptually and musically.

all eyez on me disc 1 alone is better than uncle sams curse


disc 2 alone is at least equal, if not better thanks to Picture Me Rolling and Can't C Me



Naw Bro you like pac because of the persona, overrall pac doesn't make better records than uncle sam's curse comparing the 2 albums. 2pac got put on the gangsta tip through ATL his first gangsta stuff was recorded with ATL before that his was clowning around wit the underground. Where you think Thug life came from? it came from Black mafia life, at one time the two cliques were one in the same.
LOL truth.

NOT truth


Pac was turned into a "Gangsta rapper" by Big Stretch


compare Lost Tapes to 2pacalypse Now and Strictly and you'll see the Live Squad's influence on Pac
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
Wrong again Bro! 1991 call it what you want was recorded was his first record really on some gangsta stuff outside of digital underground which is why he said now i clown around with my underground but when i am with the mafia i'm droppin ya. Stretch wasn't even a rapper like that who had gangsta rap influence you talking about ATL one of the first gangsta rap groups outside of N.W.A! Big stretch is an east coast brotha how a east coast rapper going to influuence west coast identity.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 03:42:28 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 04:27:19 PM
damn!


some new blood on the forum :D


ive seen this guy keep it nothing but 100 thus far.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 05:41:14 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.

Big Stretch of the Live Squad (who 2pac worked with before he worked with ATL) is the reason Pac went gangsta rap


look at Crooked Ass Niggas from 2pacalypse Now...that shit came out before Pac worked with ATL to begin with
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 07:06:52 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.

Big Stretch of the Live Squad (who 2pac worked with before he worked with ATL) is the reason Pac went gangsta rap


look at Crooked Ass Niggas from 2pacalypse Now...that shit came out before Pac worked with ATL to begin with
Gangsta what? Gangsta East coast? How a east coast rapper with no name going to give pac the credibility he needed to be certified on the gangsta rap map. Stretch didn't have no name to do that. Just as ATL put snoop,warren g and the dogg pound on they did the same for pac PERIOD POINT BLANK! West cost gangsta niggas started to check for pac soon as he get's down with ATL pioneers on the West coast stretch don't give pac that credibility homey.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 07:11:36 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.

Big Stretch of the Live Squad (who 2pac worked with before he worked with ATL) is the reason Pac went gangsta rap


look at Crooked Ass Niggas from 2pacalypse Now...that shit came out before Pac worked with ATL to begin with
Gangsta what? Gangsta East coast? How a east coast rapper with no name going to give pac the credibility he needed to be certified on the gangsta rap map. Stretch didn't have no name to do that. Just as ATL put snoop,warren g and the dogg pound on they did the same for pac PERIOD POINT BLANK! West cost gangsta niggas started to check for pac soon as he get's down with ATL pioneers on the West coast stretch don't give pac that credibility homey.

actually at that point Stretch and Majesty (the Live Squad) were signed to Ed Lover's label and Ed Lover was one of the biggest names in hip hop

nice try but you don't know what you're talking about.  :D


there's a reason Pac only did one song with ATL and yet Pac and Stretch have over 20 songs together.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 07:13:56 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.

Big Stretch of the Live Squad (who 2pac worked with before he worked with ATL) is the reason Pac went gangsta rap


look at Crooked Ass Niggas from 2pacalypse Now...that shit came out before Pac worked with ATL to begin with
First niggaz to say ballin?

First niggaz to say chronic on record


First niggaz to do a kalifornia song


First niggaz to do G-funk


First niggaz to bring the playa pimp  hustla element to the game


Nigga who Dre got the aftermath record name from




You need to study your history homey
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.

Digital underground was hippy/funk folk rap music they wasn't gangsta rappers he was put on the gangsta rap card through ATL laylaw the founder of the Above the law was his manager.

Big Stretch of the Live Squad (who 2pac worked with before he worked with ATL) is the reason Pac went gangsta rap


look at Crooked Ass Niggas from 2pacalypse Now...that shit came out before Pac worked with ATL to begin with
Gangsta what? Gangsta East coast? How a east coast rapper with no name going to give pac the credibility he needed to be certified on the gangsta rap map. Stretch didn't have no name to do that. Just as ATL put snoop,warren g and the dogg pound on they did the same for pac PERIOD POINT BLANK! West cost gangsta niggas started to check for pac soon as he get's down with ATL pioneers on the West coast stretch don't give pac that credibility homey.

actually at that point Stretch and Majesty (the Live Squad) were signed to Ed Lover's label and Ed Lover was one of the biggest names in hip hop

nice try but you don't know what you're talking about.  :D


there's a reason Pac only did one song with ATL and yet Pac and Stretch have over 20 songs together.

Ed lover lol! get out of here homeboy you ain't from the west coast talking about Ed lover that sound stupid you killed your argument  saying that.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 07:17:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgDwQzxPeEo aftermath got they name and how they say their slogan for they label from this record
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
you think I don't know anything about Above the Law????    i can see you have nothing left to argue so you choose to attack me (without knowing the fact that i have all of ATL's important cds)


you need to learn your 2pac facts.  He only did one song with ATL (in 1992) and between 1991-1995 Pac and Stretch made a billion songs.  before 1991 Pac was making songs like Panther Power and I Thought You Knew.  after he met Stretch he swerved toward "gangsta rap" with some of that old Panther Power style mixed in.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 07, 2012, 07:20:40 PM
you think I don't know anything about Above the Law????    i can see you have nothing left to argue so you choose to attack me (without knowing the fact that i have all of ATL's important cds)


you need to learn your 2pac facts.  He only did one song with ATL (in 1992) and between 1991-1995 Pac and Stretch made a billion songs.  before 1991 Pac was making songs like Panther Power and I Thought You Knew.  after he met Stretch he swerved toward "gangsta rap" with some of that old Panther Power style mixed in.

You silly on pacs's one nation song who you think he shots out to on that record. Your arguement ended up talking about ed lover who ain't even from the west coast. You mailed in the stats homey.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 07, 2012, 08:37:09 PM
damn hack hes sonning you.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 07, 2012, 09:24:48 PM
damn hack hes sonning you.
:stir:
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 08, 2012, 12:43:52 AM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

yeah

songs like fuck the world, it aint easy, heavy in the game and death around the corner were west coast sounding to me  ???


but then Pac had Easy Mo Bee bless him with some east coast beats (if i die tonight and temptations)

outlawww outtlaawww

they live in the citttyyyyyy that shit bay pac is bay all day

Your a moron...that's reggae inspired and they say "the game ain't the saaaaaame"


That awkward moment you don't know the lyrics to ur fave songs

damn....your right!

but you know what? it also doesnt say the game aint the same.

it says "they came in to sin" (just looked it up)


that awkward moment when someone calls you a moron for not knowing lyrics but then HE fails with the same song  ::)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 08, 2012, 07:06:37 AM
no way is uncle sams curse in a westcoast top 5 album. just my opinion. waayy to many better albums out IMO.

Regulate...G Funk Era?

Death Certificate(if you wanna talk about substance this one hold the title)

me against the world(IMO a more bay area feel than anything)

yeah

songs like fuck the world, it aint easy, heavy in the game and death around the corner were west coast sounding to me  ???


but then Pac had Easy Mo Bee bless him with some east coast beats (if i die tonight and temptations)

outlawww outtlaawww

they live in the citttyyyyyy that shit bay pac is bay all day

Your a moron...that's reggae inspired and they say "the game ain't the saaaaaame"


That awkward moment you don't know the lyrics to ur fave songs

damn....your right!

but you know what? it also doesnt say the game aint the same.

it says "they came in to sin" (just looked it up)


that awkward moment when someone calls you a moron for not knowing lyrics but then HE fails with the same song  ::)


They don't say they came into sin...that's some peckerwood euros fucked up translation. I'm guessing English isn't ur first language either. That shit don't even make sense G. I promise u it says the game ain't the same...theres alot of fucked up rap lyrics sites going around out there ive seen the them first hand. dont believe everything you read on the net young pimpin
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on August 08, 2012, 08:49:50 AM
"Gangsta Madness" is the best song on Uncle Sams Curse  ;)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sccit on August 08, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
BOTH ALBUMS ARE ALREADY CLASSIC..."UNCLE SAMS CURSE", MORESO
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 08, 2012, 10:16:41 AM
"Gangsta Madness" is the best song on Uncle Sams Curse  ;)

agreed
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Post by: J-FUNKTION on August 08, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
u mad cuz pacs albums aint on the list?

the only one eligible was me against the world and that album had a decidedly east coast influence.
this right here might get my vote for post of the year...its nice to see other non dilusional open minded people here....
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: midwestryder on August 08, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.
OG Black Wilson ,Shaka zulu is half right about ATL being the onnes who turned 2pac gagnsta but is wrong on time & date . 2pac was already hanging out with ATL & NWA during the recording of Niggaz4life & there was no big stretch around at that time . so 2pac was turnered gangsta by hanging out with ATL & NWA. snoop dogg & warren g were also around during those recording sessions . know your facts because you seemed to not do . your are right about Stretch and Majesty (the Live Squad) were signed to Ed Lover's label and Ed Lover was one of the biggest names in hip hop
. ed lover was one of biggest names in hip hop because he was one of host of yo mtv raps
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 08, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
shut yo stanking 3rd world refugee typing ignorant nelly jocking no deoderant rastafarian looking faggot ass up.


NO one takes one word you say seriously you are nellys pool boy. you probably still bump chingy.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 01:47:25 PM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: donfathaimmortal on August 08, 2012, 01:52:51 PM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: a little red dot on your new york hat on August 08, 2012, 01:55:15 PM
All Eyez On Me is one of the best albums ever in any genre.  8)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
i saw a 1988 interview of pac and he seemed feminine as a muthafucker..if someone had to "turn him into a G" then idk, somethings kinda odd about that..seems like the fake ass rap stars get the most love on this board lol says somethin about yall character...imo..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 08, 2012, 02:02:01 PM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO

Pac was doing digital underground music and went to drama school he had the thug life stuff in him do to his political background with his mom and family being panthers. But bottomline ATL gave 2pac stamped approval on the gangsta rap scene in symbolic terminology it is like getting put on the set 2pac is waaaaaay bigger than ATL but they put the nigga on simple fact.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 02:02:37 PM
Thug life idea for the name was literally i mean literally was taken out of black mafia life the name. No BS! He got put on by ATL black mafia LIFE thug LIFE....

2pac already had an album out by the time Black Mafia Life came out


and 2pac was "put on" by Digital Underground....they really found him first.  before that he was just part of Strictly Dope.
OG Black Wilson ,Shaka zulu is half right about ATL being the onnes who turned 2pac gagnsta but is wrong on time & date . 2pac was already hanging out with ATL & NWA during the recording of Niggaz4life & there was no big stretch around at that time . so 2pac was turnered gangsta by hanging out with ATL & NWA. snoop dogg & warren g were also around during those recording sessions . know your facts because you seemed to not do . your are right about Stretch and Majesty (the Live Squad) were signed to Ed Lover's label and Ed Lover was one of the biggest names in hip hop
. ed lover was one of biggest names in hip hop because he was one of host of yo mtv raps

true. i remember hutch mentioning in the source mag how eazy encouraged them to collaborate wit other artists.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
i saw a 1988 interview of pac and he seemed feminine as a muthafucker..if someone had to "turn him into a G" then idk, somethings kinda odd about that..seems like the fake ass rap stars get the most love on this board lol says somethin about yall character...imo..
i thought it was just me who figured that out.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 08, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
i saw a 1988 interview of pac and he seemed feminine as a muthafucker..if someone had to "turn him into a G" then idk, somethings kinda odd about that..seems like the fake ass rap stars get the most love on this board lol says somethin about yall character...imo..

He seemed feminine an all that because he went to drama school he was an advid reader into theater and Art etc....He was a real artist who lived out the drama on screen and in music he also had the anarchy spirit due to his mother being a black panther so he had it all rolled up into one big energy bubble.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 02:26:01 PM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO
them joints is classic... about to go listen to livin' like hustlers now.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 04:31:39 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 08, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO

your crazy!

ONLY good album? they made great music period just not on some classic type level IMO.

and SMH at this nigga before you saying that Pac was already hangin out with ATL and NWA around the time of EFIL4ZAGGIN!

how the fuck you know that shit nigga prove it!
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 08, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/vTJi_qs9RVQ - so this was influenced by Above The Law and not the streets of The Bay?

http://www.youtube.com//v/GB0AiZMgjRY
so Pac wasn't listenin' 2 none of this when he was a youngin'?

http://www.youtube.com//v/UQUWGpFAz0Q&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com//v/dxCN-Q4A_98 - thrown in for good measure


sounds like this thread is leading up to the discussion of Schooly D and how Hip Hop's true origin is from the Ghettos in America and how no idea's original



Ain't nobody tryna downplay Above The Law but we don't need 2 dickride them all hard n shit becuz they came out with some new shit back in 91' and haven't been able to stay relvevent since 95'.  Hutch dropped the ball when he was Producing those Pac albums and that's his fault.  He better get a bomb ass team of lawyers for that new Dr. Dre lawsuit becuz if what he's saying is real (and it sounds like it) then he'll finally be able to certify his claim to fame.  He even dropped the ball not promoting the work he's done with Eazy E before, during, and after this time...

http://www.youtube.com//v/NrJLs1GzU4E

http://www.youtube.com//v/2KzYjueWPAk&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/a4yTOAx561A

http://www.youtube.com//v/uYrjZkwQ0_w&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com//v/IVaAp_4SGMw&feature=relmfu  <<<< "No Time" by Lil' Kim

http://www.youtube.com//v/iCY7OOgAgPs&feature=relmfu <<<< "N 2 Deep" ,  Scarface's verse >>>> Both songs
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
not gonna go back and forth bout some niggas i dont know, thats just some gossipin ass female trait type shit..

eitherway all the music is good..fuck it..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/gwRN-1lYaw0


Hutch is too busy worry about giving himself credit to actually give himself credit sometimes...  :-X :-\ ;)


Eazy E IS tha godfather of gangsta rap just like James Brown is the godfather of Soul....

not to say that it didn't exist before or after them but c'mon.... who actually did it like they did with that much originality (and flare)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 05:11:32 PM
most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.

basically..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
shut the fuck up loser. fuck YOU mean? if you born and raised around certain shit that shit rubs off on you. you ain't no fuckin' hoodsta either. beat it.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 05:17:52 PM
'hoodsta' as in from the notorious NH card?...
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 05:19:48 PM
most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.

basically..


Wait.....


so now all of a sudden Literally ALL "Gangsta/Thug"'s are raised to be this way after their toddler years?  But what about the BABIES that are watching their mother's sell their bodies to different strangers for Food (and sometimes Drugs) and the one's who have their own Fathers and Uncles put guns in their hands for show?  What about the toddlers who smoke weed and take sips from their parent's/mother's glass with their permission and encouragement?  What about the one's that's 6 years old playing "look out" on tha block?  What about the little niggas stealing food and doing stick ups who couldn't even tell u what 36 + 16 is without thinking about it for a second?


can anybody clearly define what a Gangster is first?  becuz i have the feeling it's nothing but abuncha stereotypical thoughts and shit people only say and do in movies... or is my interpretation of what a real "gangsta" is misconscrude?  becuz i swear to u I've met a few pre-teens in my life who were born into this life who are tatted up walkin around with straps and all that who hang with niggas who r down to do the same thing (whether if it's for survival or peer pressure)....  and nevermind that 1 story about Pac tryna sell drugs becuz as we all know there's more than 1 way to hustle...  i know what ya'll are tryna say but let's get a little real 4 a second
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 08, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
'hoodsta' as in from the notorious NH card?...
dude ain't no hoodsta or no where near it.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 05:42:36 PM
most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.

basically..


Wait.....


so now all of a sudden Literally ALL "Gangsta/Thug"'s are raised to be this way after their toddler years?  But what about the BABIES that are watching their mother's sell their bodies to different strangers for Food (and sometimes Drugs) and the one's who have their own Fathers and Uncles put guns in their hands for show?  What about the toddlers who smoke weed and take sips from their parent's/mother's glass with their permission and encouragement?  What about the one's that's 6 years old playing "look out" on tha block?  What about the little niggas stealing food and doing stick ups who couldn't even tell u what 36 + 16 is without thinking about it for a second?


can anybody clearly define what a Gangster is first?  becuz i have the feeling it's nothing but abuncha stereotypical thoughts and shit people only say and do in movies... or is my interpretation of what a real "gangsta" is misconscrude?  becuz i swear to u I've met a few pre-teens in my life who were born into this life who are tatted up walkin around with straps and all that who hang with niggas who r down to do the same thing (whether if it's for survival or peer pressure)....  and nevermind that 1 story about Pac tryna sell drugs becuz as we all know there's more than 1 way to hustle...  i know what ya'll are tryna say but let's get a little real 4 a second

he didnt say "all" he said "most"...and yea if they grow up in that environment theyre gonna be born and bred into it, they aint gonna know better till they older (back to the point about pac that started being thugged out after his rap career)..dont know what point your tryna make with that statement tho?...and a street "G" is someone that takes care of their own, if they gangbang then they put in work, do dirt, hustle, pimp some bitches or whatever..or atleast thats the way i came up seeing it...but imitating what they see in movies?..dont know who u been hangin around with..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 08, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
Hollywood Buildaturd Group listens to and posts about Drake, 2 Chainz and Nicki Minaj


why are you guys debating real hip hop with a guy like that??
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
he didnt say "all" he said "most"...and yea if they grow up in that environment theyre gonna be born and bred into it, they aint gonna know better till they older (back to the point about pac that started being thugged out after his rap career)..dont know what point your tryna make with that statement tho?...and a street "G" is someone that takes care of their own, if they gangbang then they put in work, do dirt, hustle, pimp some bitches or whatever..or atleast thats the way i came up seeing it...but imitating what they see in movies?..dont know who u been hangin around with..


Wait.....

So the Black Panthers aren't Gangsters now?  Having your mother pregnant in jail with u isn't sum "gangsta shit"?  All of what u named, r u tryna say Pac and his Surviving ass family didn't do all or any of that?  

R u trying to say that real Gangsters only do the little dumb shit?  So how do u feel about The Italians and their Mafia's?

What am I missing?  Please inform us.  U have my attention, I'm dying to know
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: iDontTrip on August 08, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
cant u read?..i said STREET G's...italian mob and all that shit, yea theyre gangsters no doubt..but i said STREET G's..as in the blacks and mexicans and everybody else puttin it down in the STREETS..= STREET G's..it might be "little dumb shit" to u cause u aint on that tip, but thats what THEY do...and hell nah black panthers arent gangsta lol wtf u smokin..theyre political activist if u wanna get technical..
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 08, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Hollywood Buildaturd Group listens to and posts about Drake, 2 Chainz and Nicki Minaj


why are you guys debating real hip hop with a guy like that??
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 07:12:23 PM
cant u read?..i said STREET G's...italian mob and all that shit, yea theyre gangsters no doubt..but i said STREET G's..as in the blacks and mexicans and everybody else puttin it down in the STREETS..= STREET G's..it might be "little dumb shit" to u cause u aint on that tip, but thats what THEY do...and hell nah black panthers arent gangsta lol wtf u smokin..theyre political activist if u wanna get technical..


Wait....


So the Black Panthers weren't putting it down in the streets?  The Muslim aren't putting it down in the streets?  So only White Italian mobsters who faught/fight for every cause are the Gangsters and the Crips/Bloods/Panthers aren't unless it's just strictly black on black crimes?  So becuz now I'm not on that "tip" I'm confused about what Street Gangsters are?  So r u saying that only young katz that do little ignorant shit and pull of survival tactics r the only 1's who r Gangster?   Have u ever met/known a 45 year old Gangster who was more ruthless than the 19 year old Gangster from the same area?
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 07:14:16 PM
Hollywood Buildaturd Group listens to and posts about Drake, 2 Chainz and Nicki Minaj


why are you guys debating real hip hop with a guy like that??

Come with some fucking substance or gtfo.  Stay in your lane Hack
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 08, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/vTJi_qs9RVQ - so this was influenced by Above The Law and not the streets of The Bay?

http://www.youtube.com//v/GB0AiZMgjRY
so Pac wasn't listenin' 2 none of this when he was a youngin'?

http://www.youtube.com//v/UQUWGpFAz0Q&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com//v/dxCN-Q4A_98 - thrown in for good measure


sounds like this thread is leading up to the discussion of Schooly D and how Hip Hop's true origin is from the Ghettos in America and how no idea's original



Ain't nobody tryna downplay Above The Law but we don't need 2 dickride them all hard n shit becuz they came out with some new shit back in 91' and haven't been able to stay relvevent since 95'.  Hutch dropped the ball when he was Producing those Pac albums and that's his fault.  He better get a bomb ass team of lawyers for that new Dr. Dre lawsuit becuz if what he's saying is real (and it sounds like it) then he'll finally be able to certify his claim to fame.  He even dropped the ball not promoting the work he's done with Eazy E before, during, and after this time...

http://www.youtube.com//v/NrJLs1GzU4E

http://www.youtube.com//v/2KzYjueWPAk&feature=relmfu

Homey nobody is saying pac wasn't a gangsta or wasn't hard! Bottomline look at the west coast N.W.A, Ice cube,D.O.C  ATL pioneers of gangsta rap music on the west coast the bay coined they shit MOB music early on and later on hyphy or whatever. Pac was certified west coast gangsta through ATL and like i said thug life is black mafia life the name thug life came from it. Look at words of wisdom he shout out ice cube public enemy and ATL as maricas worst nightmares niggas who influence his ride! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5hCNO7QsfU
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 08, 2012, 07:32:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/gwRN-1lYaw0


Hutch is too busy worry about giving himself credit to actually give himself credit sometimes...  :-X :-\ ;)


Eazy E IS tha godfather of gangsta rap just like James Brown is the godfather of Soul....

not to say that it didn't exist before or after them but c'mon.... who actually did it like they did with that much originality (and flare)
Also ATL was eazy's riders who put the smash down on the lench mob when cube left? Who went to war with the row when dre left on the streets and on  Wax?
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: annunaki on August 08, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
cant u read?..i said STREET G's...italian mob and all that shit, yea theyre gangsters no doubt..but i said STREET G's..as in the blacks and mexicans and everybody else puttin it down in the STREETS..= STREET G's..it might be "little dumb shit" to u cause u aint on that tip, but thats what THEY do...and hell nah black panthers arent gangsta lol wtf u smokin..theyre political activist if u wanna get technical..


Wait....


So the Black Panthers weren't putting it down in the streets?  The Muslim aren't putting it down in the streets?  So only White Italian mobsters who faught/fight for every cause are the Gangsters and the Crips/Bloods/Panthers aren't unless it's just strictly black on black crimes?  So becuz now I'm not on that "tip" I'm confused about what Street Gangsters are?  So r u saying that only young katz that do little ignorant shit and pull of survival tactics r the only 1's who r Gangster?   Have u ever met/known a 45 year old Gangster who was more ruthless than the 19 year old Gangster from the same area?

  Most niggas i know from the nation and as far as black orthodox muslims is from the streets and they riders. What you think the BGF consist of? Muslims,crips,bloods,and black liberation riders all together under one umbrella.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 08, 2012, 08:02:10 PM
I agree with all of that.  You're doing nothing but doubling down on what I'm saying but only from the contrary.  



But I coulda swore Pac came up with "Thug Life" on his own becuz he wanted the streets to follow a new code of conduct.  I think he addressed that at his Nu Afrikka speech.  Becuz I remember an interview with Mutulu where he was talking about Pac getting on that "thug life shit" and they were having disagreements about it.  


This is the song/video everybody is talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeUf8BQvEKQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com//v/BeUf8BQvEKQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I think it's safe to say Pac was just making a reference to the album and not actually talking about the Mafia.  I could be wrong unless he's disguising his lyrics (and well, we all know how Pac was).  
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: midwestryder on August 09, 2012, 12:43:37 AM
shut yo stanking 3rd world refugee typing ignorant nelly jocking no deoderant rastafarian looking faggot ass up.


NO one takes one word you say seriously you are nellys pool boy. you probably still bump chingy.
how am i a 3rd word refugee when i from american ,you fucking dumb ass idiot .  please i have more money then you will ever have . you the one with no deoderant. how do you even know what look like? you don't ! so shut you ignorant faggot ass up ,bitch  please i am no ones pool boy & never will be .i am good friends with nelly & iam older then nelly . i own my own business unlke you,loser  it sad you worship a rapper who was never that good aka master p . please my word means more around here then yours will ever . you fucking joke compared to me ,hater. i am not ignorant,stupid or closeminded like you .also i am half native american & half africa american . so there is no way in hell i am a 3rd world refugee or no deoderant rastafarian looking faggot like you ,loser . you are very very sad person . get a life loser.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: midwestryder on August 09, 2012, 12:48:22 AM
Wait.....


So everybody's delusional becuz even in 2012 people still just can't seem to get over Pac's music?  Sounds a little emo if u ask me.

And now ATL & NWA "turned Pac gangster".... sounds like some of y'all can't relate.  




Ftr, "Uncle Sam's Curse" is their only good album.  "Livin Like Hustlers" and "Black Mafia Life" are overrated IMO

your crazy!

ONLY good album? they made great music period just not on some classic type level IMO.

and SMH at this nigga before you saying that Pac was already hangin out with ATL and NWA around the time of EFIL4ZAGGIN!

how the fuck you know that shit nigga prove it!
hoodsta,don't you read the interviews on here ?  i think i read in above the law or big hutch interview that was on here aka Dubcnn. i think it was same interview that said dr dre dtole g-funk from abouve the law & blakc maifa life was made before the chronic . so don't hate on me for reading interviews on here while you don't . i only go by facts,hater
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on August 09, 2012, 12:53:06 AM
i think midwestryder hates himself
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 07:05:12 AM
lmfao @ midwestrider got dude mad as shit sounding like nelson mandela on crack over there hahahahaha



u emotionally compromised?
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2012, 08:16:05 AM
RADIOTUBE...NONE OF THE VIDEOS U POSTED WORK...


THE LINK IS SUPPOSED 2 LOOK LIKE THIS: http://www.youtube.com/v/wY9DxyKZ5bM


NOT THIS: http://www.youtube.com//v/wY9DxyKZ5bM



ONE "/" AFTER THE ".COM", NOT TWO.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 08:53:17 AM
i been on this shit since 03 and still cant post a you tube video.


ive done it before but im not referring to a tutorial everytime i wanna use a video to shit on someone.


no one here is worth that much work.



it would be so easy for one of these monkeys to install a you tube code it would improve the forum dramatically imo
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2012, 09:04:04 AM
i been on this shit since 03 and still cant post a you tube video.


ive done it before but im not referring to a tutorial everytime i wanna use a video to shit on someone.


no one here is worth that much work.



it would be so easy for one of these monkeys to install a you tube code it would improve the forum dramatically imo


LOL..ITS THE EASIEST SHIT EVER. ALL U GOTTA DO IS CHANGE "/watch?v=" TO "/v/" AND PUT THE [ FLASH=425,350 ] [ /FLASH ] CODE (MINUS THE SPACES)


I FEEL YA ABOUT HAVIN A SIMPLER 1, THO
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 09:50:31 AM
i know its an easy formula but it seems so incovenient when even my shitty lil forum (and every other forum) has a code for this shit.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3181/arthurmoney.jpg)

PAID IN FULL
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 09, 2012, 12:24:58 PM
shouldn't Arthur be a 1 cent bill?
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
rack city bitch
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 09, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
shut the fuck up loser. fuck YOU mean? if you born and raised around certain shit that shit rubs off on you. you ain't no fuckin' hoodsta either. beat it.


how bout you try to respond? instead of tryna be the hardcore from the streets. muthaphukkaz arguing about being from the "hood" like it's middle school or high school.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 09, 2012, 12:39:38 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
shut the fuck up loser. fuck YOU mean? if you born and raised around certain shit that shit rubs off on you. you ain't no fuckin' hoodsta either. beat it.


how bout you try to respond? instead of tryna be the hardcore from the streets. muthaphukkaz arguing about being from the "hood" like it's middle school or high school.
don't speak on what you don't know too much about or aren't familiar wit. bottom line.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 01:30:23 PM
kc hoodsta....smh


i used to fuck with you my dude. i thought you was one of the good ones.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on August 09, 2012, 04:49:35 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
shut the fuck up loser. fuck YOU mean? if you born and raised around certain shit that shit rubs off on you. you ain't no fuckin' hoodsta either. beat it.


how bout you try to respond? instead of tryna be the hardcore from the streets. muthaphukkaz arguing about being from the "hood" like it's middle school or high school.
don't speak on what you don't know too much about or aren't familiar wit. bottom line.


master P you really gonna say gangsters are born??????

real shit this is dumb ass argument

both of yall niggaz are slow

and environment which you are brought up in and the circumstances that surround your life is what creates a GANGSTA nigga!

you need to take a trip back to your local inner city homie cuz both yall niggaz str8 lost on LIFE if you really think that shit.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Black Excellence on August 09, 2012, 05:02:27 PM
Wait....


So becuz Pac wasn't publicly screaming "Thug Life" in Pre-Celebrity interviews in 1988/1989 and he was on that other Real Shit he's automatically feminine and wasn't about that life?  Explain that to me, especially considering he was only 17 at the time bouncing from house to house and coast to coast on some "Annie" shit).  Please do tell.  But before u do, have u ever lived that life?


This all sounds like fanboy shit to big-up Above The Law.  But I'm open to interpretation.  So please pour your heart out to me
gangstas are born not manufactured. have i lived that life ? when i was 17 i was bad as hell so yeah i lived it. most gangstas livin' a gangsta life lived it through their teens (or pre teens). they don't wait to get over 21 to do it.



nigga your fucking stupid!!!!!

an environment and circumstances create a gangster!

fuck you mean gangsters are BORN not created you know how dumb and ignorant you sound!

oh and my fav track on the album was

Rain Be For Rain Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNsc85rX2s

smoothest IMO
shut the fuck up loser. fuck YOU mean? if you born and raised around certain shit that shit rubs off on you. you ain't no fuckin' hoodsta either. beat it.


how bout you try to respond? instead of tryna be the hardcore from the streets. muthaphukkaz arguing about being from the "hood" like it's middle school or high school.
don't speak on what you don't know too much about or aren't familiar wit. bottom line.


master P you really gonna say gangsters are born??????

real shit this is dumb ass argument

both of yall niggaz are slow

and environment which you are brought up in and the circumstances that surround your life is what creates a GANGSTA nigga!

you need to take a trip back to your local inner city homie cuz both yall niggaz str8 lost on LIFE if you really think that shit.
we've confirmed you're the slow one....funny i was just in a local inner city earlier today.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 06:00:08 PM
i never said that or sided with that argument but i will say this i do believe the children of gs and hustlers are born with some hustle in them if they can tap into it is the real question.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 10, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3181/arthurmoney.jpg)

PAID IN FULL


Now that's ILL


+10000000
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: midwestryder on August 11, 2012, 01:14:41 AM
i think midwestryder hates himself
no, mike i love myself & i think i am greatest thing ever . no mike, i hate ignorant closedminded people who have no idea or clue what they are talking about aka 99% of the world . i know i am smarter & wiser then most people on this planet.
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sccit on August 11, 2012, 04:13:26 AM
i know i am smarter & wiser then most people on this planet.


THIS IS SCARY
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on August 11, 2012, 04:27:05 AM
i think midwestryder hates himself
no, mike i love myself & i think i am greatest thing ever . no mike, i hate ignorant closedminded people who have no idea or clue what they are talking about aka 99% of the world . i know i am smarter & wiser then most people on this planet.

hahahah and at the same time ur sentences sounds like u are idiot and teenager full of anger who think he is the alpha & omega of hop-hop knowledge
if u so smart and wise do something with ur life then or write a book :D
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 11, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
(http://brilliantlyblunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1-50-Cent-Laugh-Off.gif)
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 11, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Lmfao midwestryder is hands down my favorite poster to troll

When he's mad he types like he's from zamunda*



*extra points for the oldschool reference
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: midwestryder on August 13, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
Lmfao midwestryder is hands down my favorite poster to troll

When he's mad he types like he's from zamunda*



*extra points for the oldschool reference
thanks master p
Title: Re: Black Mafia Life & Uncles Sams Curse co-produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on August 14, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
no, thank you simmi

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTYyMjAzOTk5MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTkwMDkwMw@@._V1._SX640_SY1240_.jpg)