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Title: Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 12:22:59 PM
Sup Board,

Ok, Dre IS NOT Westcoast anymore. As much as ya'll want him to, he's not. Sure he's from 'Just Outside Compton" but he has not made a proper westcoast beat since he left Death Row. Just take a look at the people he has got/had on Aftermath and the tracks he's released. 2001 was not a Westcoast album IMO, ok It contained a few artists who are from the West (Snoop, King T, Ren etc) but the beats?! Hell nah!

Check the BAY if you want real West and stop playing with all these fakes.

Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Kaidy on February 16, 2003, 12:31:51 PM
Who cares? I dont. Dre makes decent music and a lot of it i like, i dont care if he doesnt make shit that sounds like its 'west coast' as long as its good music. just move with the times and let people like what they like. why are u so concerned about other peoples tastes anyway?
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 12:41:51 PM
It ain't about tastes. OK, so why is there a Westcoast forum? Half the people mentioned in it don't actually make 'Westcoast' music. SIMPLE.

Peace.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Mudpole on February 16, 2003, 12:42:32 PM
I've never heard any eastcoast artist make a beat like
Still DRE or the Next Episode, and what do you mean
2001 only had a few westcoast artists on it, man nearly
everybody on that album was westcoast.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: P Nelson on February 16, 2003, 12:54:47 PM
LOl what do u expect from Dre? That 1992 G Funk sound?? Hommie ur 11 years late, sometimes people got to improve their sound, for me, 2001 IS a West Coast album, hes reppin the West in it, but he's a producer , so im sure he felt like changin the game by doing this album instead of  making the same thing again ang again, open ur mind, and people gon open their mind to the West Coast
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Tha_Reverend on February 16, 2003, 01:03:46 PM
Snoop, Nate, kurupt, Xzibit, Ren, King T, Knoc, Time bomb, Hitt man, thos are all WEST.  and more.  and that album was West out the ass.  




now, detox, that could be a completely different situation.  only time will tell.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:04:54 PM
Yo Bz. I feel what u are saying, I understand people have gotta change they sound but Dre has changed and now all you get in a wack ass 5 sec loop for 4 mins. Back in the day he could produce a track with samples etc etc. Now if he bothers to do that he doesn't even clear it. I'm just fed up with all the peeps on here shouting about Dre's this Dre's that whoopy whoo blah blah shit. I used to love Dr. Dre now It doesn't bother me what the fuck he produced....take a look a tracks he produced on The Eminem Show, Man Vs Machine & Eve-olution ya'll will see what I mean.

Battlecat production is what Dre should aim for!

LOL, IMO!

PEACE.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Adriano on February 16, 2003, 01:18:25 PM


What are yall talkin about.......

"Dres not westcoast anymore" are you really in the position to say that ?? I dont think so dogg......


-Adriano
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:22:46 PM


What are yall talkin about.......

"Dres not westcoast anymore" are you really in the position to say that ?? I dont think so dogg......


-Adriano


What?
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Trauma-san on February 16, 2003, 01:28:13 PM
Dre's the westcoast barometer, westcoast sound is whatever dre's doing at that particular moment.  So I dunno how you can say he' isn't westcoast, no matter what he does, that's what the rest of the coast does.  
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:34:25 PM
Give me one reason why you think Dre is 'Westcoast' ??
The man ain't even actually from Compton!!
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Trauma-san on February 16, 2003, 01:37:57 PM
Here we go again.  He is from compton, lol man look up your info.  You believe something because Suge said it?  Ask Ren, Ask Ice Cube, Ask the D.O.C. where Dre's from.  

Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: OpTiCaL on February 16, 2003, 01:39:53 PM
Dre's the westcoast barometer, westcoast sound is whatever dre's doing at that particular moment.  So I dunno how you can say he' isn't westcoast, no matter what he does, that's what the rest of the coast does.  


Fo' real bo....Dre was knocked when he didnt produce an album of his own for a time...then he does and everyone wants to sound like that...i got faith in him,
if the rumor is true about this bein his last album then u can be sure its gonna be not only good but also groundbreaking!
To be groundbreakin you gotta change the flow of things and the way people hear / think about music.

Peace!
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:40:39 PM
Just because you may hang with some people from there don't mean YOU are. Look at Xzibit.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on February 16, 2003, 01:41:13 PM
I said it Before and I'll say it again ...FUCK THAT COAST BULLSHIT and just enjoy the music
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Suga Foot on February 16, 2003, 01:44:12 PM
IMO, Dre's beyond all that eastcoast/westcoast bullshit.  He doesn't even have that in his mind, he's just making good music, that's why he gets so much respect by eveyone in the music industry.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:45:06 PM
Once again, why have a Westcoast Forum then?
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:47:07 PM
IMO, Dre's beyond all that eastcoast/westcoast bullshit.  He doesn't even have that in his mind, he's just making good music, that's why he gets so much respect by eveyone in the music industry.

So why do I keep hearing bullshit about Dre putting the 'Westcoast' back on the map? it's all foolish. Dre is cool as a producer, but should NOT be in the same catergory as some of the 'Westcoast' producers.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on February 16, 2003, 01:53:16 PM
IMO, Dre's beyond all that eastcoast/westcoast bullshit.  He doesn't even have that in his mind, he's just making good music, that's why he gets so much respect by eveyone in the music industry.

So why do I keep hearing bullshit about Dre putting the 'Westcoast' back on the map? it's all foolish. Dre is cool as a producer, but should NOT be in the same catergory as some of the 'Westcoast' producers.


dre sets the stage look at before where was the west until dre released 2001 that set the stage nobody minds wen dres got an album out yall should lay off he was raised in compton fuck suge he talks more shit than daz wen dre releases cube and detox then the coast will be back on top not until then he puts the west on the map every time he drops an album he reps west his linin in the west he is west and hes the only man thats bringing the good times back to the west
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 16, 2003, 01:59:28 PM
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dre sets the stage look at before where was the west until dre released 2001 that set the stage nobody minds wen dres got an album out yall should lay off he was raised in compton fuck suge he talks more shit than daz wen dre releases cube and detox then the coast will be back on top not until then he puts the west on the map every time he drops an album he reps west his linin in the west he is west and hes the only man thats bringing the good times back to the west


That's the bullshit i'm talking about, I give up.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: HBKid_Jr on February 16, 2003, 02:05:54 PM
ok,  dres sound sure as hell aint east sounding,  it sure as hell aint dirty south sounding than wtf is it than
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Trauma-san on February 16, 2003, 03:39:06 PM
Dre didn't just 'hang' with guys from compton.  He lived in compton.  How else could you be 'from compton' ?
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Suga Foot on February 16, 2003, 04:13:15 PM
IMO, Dre's beyond all that eastcoast/westcoast bullshit.  He doesn't even have that in his mind, he's just making good music, that's why he gets so much respect by eveyone in the music industry.

So why do I keep hearing bullshit about Dre putting the 'Westcoast' back on the map? it's all foolish. Dre is cool as a producer, but should NOT be in the same catergory as some of the 'Westcoast' producers.

I know tons of people say he's gonna put the "westcoast" back on the map.  But does Dre himself ever say he's gonna put the "westcoast" back on the map?  NO.  Just let the man do his thing, you think too much.  Just enjoy the music he's giving us.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: closetothalimit on February 16, 2003, 04:19:32 PM
did u expect west coast rap never to evolve past the death row sound?

what dre did with the '2001' sound did change the west coast - if he aint west coast why has he contributed his sound to so many west coast rappers since 1999.  even though i havent liked his most recent beats on the 50 Cent album - he is still west coast

and dre was from comtpon, even if he did spend most his time playing atari inside  ;D
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Kaidy on February 16, 2003, 04:20:11 PM
That's the bullshit i'm talking about, I give up.

Please do.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: verbalassaulta on February 16, 2003, 04:56:52 PM
i dont think dre is westcoast either...other than xzibit he never works with westcoast artists.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Primo on February 16, 2003, 05:03:28 PM
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT COAST ANYONE IS FROM......HE COULD BE FROM A FARM IN WYOMING HE STILL WOULD BE THE BEST IN THE GAME..
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Big BpG on February 16, 2003, 05:10:25 PM
Nah, you see G-child, you are very wrong....  to you westcoast music should sound like it use to sound back in the  90's... the sound Dr. Dre created, however, he's changing the game... he's changing the sound of his music, which results in chaning the sound of westcoast music... so dre is still westcoast... he's just changing the game

-Bluey
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Mellow on February 16, 2003, 06:19:35 PM
MAn, Dre ain't dropped a proper track since HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!, let me see, THe Last Meal. And that's if he produced Hennesey and Buddah or was that Fred Wrecks work. Ain't nobody copying Dre's shit because a fuckin 5 year old can make his beats. THey're too simplistic now and sound like a whole lotta base with no fuckin' soul in the damn song. Just a boomp.. boom..boom, boom. So stop saying he's dope cuz' he ain't no good anymore. I've wasted too much $ buying cd's with singles he produced that are probably the worst on the album. For instance:Lookin' At You, Business, In Da Club, Symphony In X Major.He trying to create a new type of music. That takes a muthafucker with a lot of brains and patience. With the work Dre's been doing lately, I don't think he can pull off a Hip-Opera or Ghetto Rock album that sounds as creative as 2001. And if he can, why does he give all his homies shitty beats, but saves his best beats for himself. Stingy. If Quik can bring consistent, CREATIVE,INNOVATIVE(keywords)bangers, than why the fuck can't Dre do the same. Isn't he supposedly, the best rap producer in everybody's eyes? He may be the best to the whole world, but he'll never be innovative and that can end any producer's career. Whether it be Dre, Warren G or Quik. He needs to reinvent himself with a bit more soul in his shit!!!
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Suga Foot on February 16, 2003, 06:36:35 PM
Dre didn't produce smphony in x major.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: I luv Coochie on February 16, 2003, 06:45:52 PM
Sure he's from 'Just Outside Compton"

Dre's from compton dumbass. He hasn't been there for 12 years but he's still from there.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Trauma-san on February 16, 2003, 07:22:57 PM
The latest song out from dre i know of is "In the Club" and it's a banger for sure.  How anybody can say nothing he's made is any good since last meal is beyond me.  I'm the first one to say he's not as creative as before, but that doesn't mean everything he makes isn't still dope.  
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Sikotic™ on February 16, 2003, 09:52:59 PM
Stop so hard to try and label the music. The coastal shit is dissolving anyways and everyone is borrowing ideas from eachother. The sound got old so he's moved on.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: js83 on February 16, 2003, 10:38:51 PM
all i gotta say is...dre fell the fuck off...all his beats sounds the same these days...after he dropped 2001..i think he hasn't made one single fucking decent beat..."in the club" is aiight..nothin special...i mean back in the days..he was one of the top producers in da game...but now...........ahhh.....well HOPEFULLY...dre is saving all his best stuff on detox...
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Jome on February 16, 2003, 11:18:06 PM
LOL. Here we go again...

The same morons saying "Dre fell the fuck off the map, he's from NYC and his mother is from Israel" is the same idiots saying this when Detox drops: "Oooh, I love Dre, Detox is classic, Dre is a genius, I wanna get it on with him, he comes off with that lovely Westcoast sound".

Haters..  ::)
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on February 17, 2003, 02:10:29 AM
LOL. Here we go again...

The same morons saying "Dre fell the fuck off the map, he's from NYC and his mother is from Israel" is the same idiots saying this when Detox drops: "Oooh, I love Dre, Detox is classic, Dre is a genius, I wanna get it on with him, he comes off with that lovely Westcoast sound".

Haters..  ::)


that should shut these fools up
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: E. J. Rizo on February 17, 2003, 03:11:05 AM
man i can say that snoop and nate dogg aint west no more cause they got tracks on the new freeway album  ::) ;)
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on February 17, 2003, 10:20:01 AM
LOL. Here we go again...

The same morons saying "Dre fell the fuck off the map, he's from NYC and his mother is from Israel" is the same idiots saying this when Detox drops: "Oooh, I love Dre, Detox is classic, Dre is a genius, I wanna get it on with him, he comes off with that lovely Westcoast sound".

Haters..  ::)

Blah blah blah, yeah cool. But It ain't like that, Remember that the Westcoast doesn't begin and end with Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg. All these people talking about opening they mind to music, Bullshit, they the same people hollaring about Snoop & Dre everytime they fart or cough. Y'all always contradicting yourselves.

Can anyone tell me Why Daz, J-Flexx, Scott Storch and fuck knows who else claimed they were NOT credited for work they have done in the past?

Yeah Dre is cool, but y'all don't pay attention to other producers who are right up there with Dre like BATTLECAT for example, the dude has been out for as long as Dre has but doesn't get the attention he deserves.

PEACE.
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on February 17, 2003, 12:14:27 PM
For whoever it was who said that everyone on the west follows what Dre does, tell me one west coast artist who has made an album with beats like the ones on 2001? I'm not saying he ain't west coast, cause he certainly ain't east coast or dirty south, and you can have many different styles of production on the west coast at the same time, but I certainly don't see him as a trend setter on the west.

The success or failure of Detox will depend on what his new sound is gonna be, something with more soul and shit would be much doper that his current looped shit, and which artists he manages to get in on the project as characters.
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Post by: Mudpole on February 17, 2003, 02:03:55 PM
For all who say dre ain't the same any more, just remember
dre doesn't want to be doinging the same thing he was
doing during death row cause he said when he left that
he's been there and done that and he wanted to
experiment with other things and create new sounds and
not just keep doing the same old g-funk that he created
back in the early 90's. You can't force a man to something
he doesn't want to do!

And g-child you wonder why people like Battlecat don't
get the attention they deserve, cause people like you
keep going on about dre and how he ain't west and steals
other peoples credit. Why don't you use your energy on
talking about the production of Battlecat and get people
intrested in him, instead of bitching about dre!!
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: E. J. Rizo on February 17, 2003, 02:24:37 PM
LOL. Here we go again...

The same morons saying "Dre fell the fuck off the map, he's from NYC and his mother is from Israel" is the same idiots saying this when Detox drops: "Oooh, I love Dre, Detox is classic, Dre is a genius, I wanna get it on with him, he comes off with that lovely Westcoast sound".

Haters..  ::)

Blah blah blah, yeah cool. But It ain't like that, Remember that the Westcoast doesn't begin and end with Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg. All these people talking about opening they mind to music, Bullshit, they the same people hollaring about Snoop & Dre everytime they fart or cough. Y'all always contradicting yourselves.

Can anyone tell me Why Daz, J-Flexx, Scott Storch and fuck knows who else claimed they were NOT credited for work they have done in the past?

Yeah Dre is cool, but y'all don't pay attention to other producers who are right up there with Dre like BATTLECAT for example, the dude has been out for as long as Dre has but doesn't get the attention he deserves.

PEACE.

where you there to see that dre didnt do the work??????? ...... man mouths run all the time.....you the type of person that believes everything you hear man???? common if you where there or have proof then thats a differnet story until then you got to believe whats on paper
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: eastcoasta on February 17, 2003, 03:39:28 PM
terrible topic....
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: Mellow on February 17, 2003, 04:20:06 PM
Dre didn't produce smphony in x major.

My bad. I meant "choke me, spank me."
Title: Re:Dre ain't Westcoast no more.
Post by: LIL GUY on February 18, 2003, 11:01:36 AM
Get the fuck outta here.  So do timbaland and Neptunes have the "V.A sound?" this shit is stupid.  Roger and Zapp shit aint tight no more.  you want dre to sample George All over again huh.  I cant blame Dre,  If you woulda said that Dre dont really fuck with west coast artist anymore  I would have agreed with you but to say he's not west coast any more becuase his Beats dont sound like what you think is West Coast is stupid.  To be honest I rather hear 50 Cent over Dre beat than Xzibit.  At least 50 knows how to ride the track.  Dre dont make West coast music he make universal music eventhough I dont feel all his shit , when he wants to he can still make that fire.  Ask Battlecat why the only person asking for his beats is snoop, and you herd snoops shit. That "WestCoast" sound is 90's homie get over it.