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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Okka on August 22, 2012, 08:24:16 AM
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Where is Meech Wells? Haven't heard anything from him in a while. If Snoop stops fuckin with that reggae shit after "Reincarnated", he needs to hook up with Meech Wells again. They've made so many classics together.
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Meech posted here that he was going back in the lab with Snoop. This was just after Doggumentary dropped.
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Meech, Snoop and Kokane on last Snoop album was sooo dope!!
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic imo
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http://www.youtube.com/v/56VN6sorJVM
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
You don't like his beats on "No Limit Top Dogg"?
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
which one were co-produced by quaze?
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http://www.youtube.com/v/56VN6sorJVM
that track is the shit 8)
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http://www.youtube.com/v/56VN6sorJVM
classic 8) 8) 8) 8)
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
You don't like his beats on "No Limit Top Dogg"?
not really, only "my heat goes boom"
never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
which one were co-produced by quaze?
major skrilla, christmas in tha hood, summertime, dont fight the feelin (uncredited), so low,
& plenty of unreleased (but leaked) Snoop tracks
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains in the vault to this day.
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains unreleased to this day.
that's why it remained unreleased it wasn't up to par wit what cat, fred, and meech was doin' then. they were to dogg house what the wack room was to death row. only track leimberg really made that was sick was that jayo felony record wit sleepy brown. he did that wit dj silk.
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jelly roll was the most underrated dogghouse producer...
http://mp3bear.com/bad-azz-ft-xzibit-west-coast-plantation-throwbaback-joint
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains unreleased to this day.
that's why it remained unreleased it wasn't up to par wit what cat, fred, and meech was doin' then. they were to dogg house what the wack room was to death row. only track leimberg really made that was sick was that jayo felony record wit sleepy brown. he did that wit dj silk.
tehy came in on the team rather late, right before Snoop switched gears wit his career & started messin wit Neptunes & Star Trak, i think thats the main reason why alot of the stuff didnt surface. the unreleased cuts ive heard are amazing, and shits on Meech Wells dull productions. -- unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans, and Quaze is also a singer, and they both have a broader sound in their music (specialy Josef)
u should check out their catalgoue n school urself on them imo 8)
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains unreleased to this day.
that's why it remained unreleased it wasn't up to par wit what cat, fred, and meech was doin' then. they were to dogg house what the wack room was to death row. only track leimberg really made that was sick was that jayo felony record wit sleepy brown. he did that wit dj silk.
tehy came in on the team rather late, right before Snoop switched gears wit his career & started messin wit Neptunes & Star Trak, i think thats the main reason why alot of the stuff didnt surface. the unreleased cuts ive heard are amazing, and shits on Meech Wells dull productions. -- unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans, and Quaze is also a singer, and they both have a broader sound in their music (specialy Josef)
u should check out their catalgoue n school urself on em
thanks but no thanks what i've heard was enough. they even ruined the 213 album with their sound.
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains unreleased to this day.
that's why it remained unreleased it wasn't up to par wit what cat, fred, and meech was doin' then. they were to dogg house what the wack room was to death row. only track leimberg really made that was sick was that jayo felony record wit sleepy brown. he did that wit dj silk.
tehy came in on the team rather late, right before Snoop switched gears wit his career & started messin wit Neptunes & Star Trak, i think thats the main reason why alot of the stuff didnt surface. the unreleased cuts ive heard are amazing, and shits on Meech Wells dull productions. -- unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans, and Quaze is also a singer, and they both have a broader sound in their music (specialy Josef)
u should check out their catalgoue n school urself on em
thanks but no thanks what i've heard was enough. they even ruined the 213 album with their sound.
http://www.youtube.com/v/b9rVgnLU2rc
http://www.youtube.com/v/WRq_D3a5wcc
http://www.youtube.com/v/XcNfvglfyW0
http://www.youtube.com/v/-h9ZOSm3czw
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never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic
quaze was wack. he had that fake jely roll sound. he just sounded like a rip off. meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
like hell he wasn't. Josef and Quaze were easily the best producers Dogghouse had ever had (especially Josef), besides Fredwreck.. they did alot of work for Snoop, but alot of it remains unreleased to this day.
that's why it remained unreleased it wasn't up to par wit what cat, fred, and meech was doin' then. they were to dogg house what the wack room was to death row. only track leimberg really made that was sick was that jayo felony record wit sleepy brown. he did that wit dj silk.
tehy came in on the team rather late, right before Snoop switched gears wit his career & started messin wit Neptunes & Star Trak, i think thats the main reason why alot of the stuff didnt surface. the unreleased cuts ive heard are amazing, and shits on Meech Wells dull productions. -- unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans, and Quaze is also a singer, and they both have a broader sound in their music (specialy Josef)
u should check out their catalgoue n school urself on em
thanks but no thanks what i've heard was enough. they even ruined the 213 album with their sound.
http://www.youtube.com/v/b9rVgnLU2rc
http://www.youtube.com/v/WRq_D3a5wcc
http://www.youtube.com/v/XcNfvglfyW0
http://www.youtube.com/v/-h9ZOSm3czw
their production is so generic.
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Dude's a bit underrated compared to others like Cat, Fred, Daz or Soopa (like LT Hutton) but I dig his style.
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unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans
So now Meech ain't a musician?
Pfff
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unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans
So now Meech ain't a musician?
Pfff
Meech Wells is a beatmaker, not a musician
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unlike beatmaker Meech, Soundscannerz are msuicans
So now Meech ain't a musician?
Pfff
Meech Wells is a beatmaker, not a musician
::)
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ur not a musician just cuz u can use an MPC machine, a beatmaker is somethin else.
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ur not a musician just cuz u can use an MPC machine, a beatmaker is somethin else.
Meech plays keys
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^beatmaker. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
ur not a musician just cuz u can use an Akai and fiddle wit sounds n create melodies & rhythms, a beatmaker is somethin else.
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^beatmaker. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
ur not a musician just cuz u can use an Akai and fiddle wit sounds n create melodies & rhythms, a beatmaker is somethin else.
I don't know what the discogs link is meant to show.
"Styles: Lets take it a step before that.
Meech: You know, playing keyboards in the studio with my Dad. My dad is a songwriter. He wrote Love TKO for Teddy Pendagrass. So you know I’ve got roots. I was in the studio with him playing keyboards. He used to try to put a guitar in my hands, but I my thing was always keyboards. I started like that, but when they came out with the drum machine I put the drum machine with the keyboard once the midi came out. That was it, I got into the drum machine. I’m the drum machine master now (laughs)."
http://www.raptalk.net/news/features/RaptalkExclusiveInterviewWithProducerMeechWellsYou.php
You need to school yourself on Meech before u compare him to Snoops house band
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^beatmaker. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
ur not a musician just cuz u can use an Akai and fiddle wit sounds n create melodies & rhythms, a beatmaker is somethin else.
I don't know what the discogs link is meant to show.
when they came out with the drum machine I put the drum machine with the keyboard once the midi came out. That was it, I got into the drum machine. I’m the drum machine master now (laughs)."
lol,
u think thats what a musician is?
your retarded
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^beatmaker. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
ur not a musician just cuz u can use an Akai and fiddle wit sounds n create melodies & rhythms, a beatmaker is somethin else.
I don't know what the discogs link is meant to show.
when they came out with the drum machine I put the drum machine with the keyboard once the midi came out. That was it, I got into the drum machine. I’m the drum machine master now (laughs)."
lol,
u think thats what a musician is?
your retarded
So u delete the relevent part of the quote and you're calling ME retarded.
Don't waste my time on things u clearly don't understand.
"I'm Facebook friends with Quaze :'("
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lol @ that emotional reaction, if u cant argue then don't.
u believe that a beatmaker can adress himself as a "musician" if he can tap keys on a drummachine, and u try to prove it by linking an interview.
hilarious how u try to portray urself like u know what ur talkin about, even though u are clearly retarded (or maybe just stupid)
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lol @ that emotional reaction, if u cant argue then don't.
u believe that u can be a musician if u can tap keys on a drummachine, and u try to prove it by linking an interview.
hilarious how u try to portray urself like u know what ur talkin about, even though u are clearly retarded (or maybe just stupid)
So.
When Meech says he grew up playing keys with his dad a songwriter..of the legendary musical family Womack (have u heard of them) playing keys with his dad on guitar (who wrote Love TKO, have u heard of that song?) and playing keys for him in the studio (like a music recording studio, not a laptop in someone's bedroom Mike)...years before he got a drum machine or graduated to being a platimum music producer and manager of artists himself....
What part of that didn't u grasp?
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i used to play the banjo a few times in classes when i was 7, einsten
are u going to adress me as a fullfledged musician today too?
take ur L & move on, and stop embarrassing urself wit ur pathetic attempts at arguing
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A musician usually plays a musical instrument, especially (although not necessarily) as a profession.[1] Musicians can be classified by their roles in performing music and writing music. It's also a person who makes music a profession, anyone (professional or not) who's skilled in making music or performing music creatively, or one who composes, conducts, or performs music (especially instrumental music) is a musician
according to wiki he is a musician :D
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i'm a musician too 8)
i can tap buttons & keys, and create patterns & rhythms on an AKAI-drummachine.
musician, bitches :rock:
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i used to play the banjo a few times in classes when i was 7, einsten
are u going to adress me as a fullfledged musician today too?
Retarded
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if your profession is music, you're a musician.
i dunno what definition you're going by, but thats webster's dictionary definition.
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disagree, tehres a huge difference between a beatmaker and a music-producer, i dont care what ur googled wiki-defintion says.
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disagree, tehres a huge difference between a beatmaker and a music-producer, i dont care what ur googled wiki-defintion says.
In Mikes world everything makes sense to him
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disagree, tehres a huge difference between a beatmaker and a music-producer, i dont care what ur googled wiki-defintion says.
i'm sayin, the definition of a musician in the english language is some1 who makes music...so if u dont consider rap as music, thats one thing. but if rap is music, then someone who makes rap beats is a musician.
now, if ur talkin about live instruments, thats something else. u can say he's not a live musician, but nowadays, most music is made electronically, regardless.
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^come on now.
im not even an expert on Meech at all, but i assure you hes a beatmaker,
he doesnt play any instruments,, read notes,, and probly doesnt even arrange the music wit his performers in the studio (becuz he hardly even mixes his own songs, as i can tell by lookin at his credits).
dont care if he tried out the keyboards wit his dad when he was a kid.
his profession is beats - he makes beats and sends em to rappers in protools or seperate WAVE-files
through e-mails, just like 95percent of all the "producers" in teh rapgame does..
hey Will,
i know u have love-relationship wit ur favorite DPG-related "musicians", (sure thing, i'm a fan myself),
and you like to glorify their craft the best way u can,, but its time for you to start lookin at things objectively, instead of actin like a defensive groupie all the time. pathetic..
end thread
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^come on now.
im not even an expert on Meech at all, but i assure you hes a beatmaker,
he doesnt play any instruments,, read notes,, and probly doesnt even arrange the music wit his performers in the studio (becuz he hardly even mixes his own songs, as i can tell by lookin at his credits).
dont care if he tried out the keyboards wit his dad when he was a kid.
his profession is beats - he makes beats and sends em to rappers in protools or seperate WAVE-files
through e-mails, just like 95percent of all the "producers" in teh rapgame does..
hey Will,
i know u have love-relationship wit ur favorite DPG-related "musicians", (sure thing, i'm a fan myself),
and you like to glorify their craft the best way u can,, but its time for you to start lookin at things objectively
, instead of actin like a defensive groupie all the time.
end thread
Hey Mike. So post up how u KNOW Meech doesn't play instruments or read music etc.
Then I'll take your point as valid, as opposed to completely made up
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i havent seen his name tied to an instrument-credit ever,, i'll use that http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
regardless, i dont care if i have to prove anythin to you. arguments wit you is pointless, cuz ur always riding on your neverending & defensive groupie-tendencies. take a hike 8)
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/q5whukzq.hbl.jpg)
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i havent seen his name tied to an instrument-credit ever,, i'll use that http://www.discogs.com/artist/Meech+Wells#t=Credits_Production&q=&p=1
regardless, i dont care if i have to prove anythin to you. arguments wit you is pointless, cuz ur always riding on your defensive groupie-tendencies. take a hike 8)
Says the guy who's sucking off josef and Quaze like his life depended on it
I posted up a link explaining his strong musical background (and nowhere does it say he was a child in the studio LMAO) U came with nothing.
Also I just posted credits in the Hi 2 U thread. Educate yourself rather than posting 'thin air'
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^ oh golly. did u prove that Meech Wellls is a fullfledged musician now cuz u found his name credited once under "mixed by" or "keys by" in a booklet? did u go through that much trouble to dig that up for me.. awwww :-* . hey i played clarinet once in a schoolperformance back in 94. am i a musician too, Will? can i get ur stamp-of-aproval?
son ur repitivie back&fourts make u look autistic & u obvioulsy need therapy.. to make matters worse, ur 15 years older than everyone else on this forum
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^ oh golly. did u prove that Meech Wellls is a fullfledged musician now cuz u found his name credited once under "mixed by" or "keys by" in a booklet? did u go through that much trouble to dig that up for me.. awwww :-* . hey i played clarinet once in a schoolperformance back in 94. am i a musician too, Will? can i get ur stamp-of-aproval?
son ur obviously autistic & u need therapy.. to make matters worse, ur 15 years older than everyone else on this forum
Lol so do I need to quote myself and say don't waste my time again?
You jumped on this thread claiming Meech isn't as good a producer as your favourite, then when people disagreed u come with that 'oh Meech aint shit, I heard he got done shoplifting coz he's a bum who can't read music or write his own name blah blah shit'
"u don't like soundscannerz as much as me I straight hate u all u mad waffle waffle ramble :'("
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Erm , regardless of the debate going on, Meech as a producer is dope as fuck! like Snoop said on "issues"(one of the best songs on that album IMO) they go together like bread an meat. They have made so many great tracks together. Not just on "No limit Top Dogg" and "The last meal" but also on "Da game is to be sold not told" plus on compilations and etc.
Even this track is classic to me(especially compared to what snoop dose now);
http://www.youtube.com/v/NQESI-Hcz4s
(from Big Tray-Deee's generals list)
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smh, typical Will-meltdown.
desperate groupie that does wahtever it takes to defend and glorify his favorites artists,
instead of just lookin at things objectively. :catfight:
B-Real (from Cypress Hill) once played congas on a song by Snoop Dogg, just for the fun of it when
he was in the studio wit Fred.
did you know that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRgKtZz6ges
is he a fullfledged congo-player in your book, Will?
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/3339038/The+Congos+Congos.jpg)
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smh, typical Will-meltdown.
desperate groupie that does wahtever it takes to defend and glorify his favorites artists,
instead of just lookin at things objectively. :catfight:
B-Real (from Cypress Hill) once played congas on a song by Snoop Dogg, just for the fun of it when
he was in the studio wit Fred.
did you know that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRgKtZz6ges
is he a fullfledged congo-player in your book, Will?
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/3339038/The+Congos+Congos.jpg)
What has u denying Meechs ability (as proven in plain English I know sorry the Ukrainian link was down) go to do with my objectivity in regards to anything?
"I love to see myself suffer"
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^come on now.
im not even an expert on Meech at all, but i assure you hes a beatmaker,
he doesnt play any instruments,, read notes,, and probly doesnt even arrange the music wit his performers in the studio (becuz he hardly even mixes his own songs, as i can tell by lookin at his credits).
dont care if he tried out the keyboards wit his dad when he was a kid.
his profession is beats - he makes beats and sends em to rappers in protools or seperate WAVE-files
through e-mails, just like 95percent of all the "producers" in teh rapgame does..
hey Will,
i know u have love-relationship wit ur favorite DPG-related "musicians", (sure thing, i'm a fan myself),
and you like to glorify their craft the best way u can,, but its time for you to start lookin at things objectively
, instead of actin like a defensive groupie all the time.
end thread
(http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Cats/Retard.jpg)
please, Mike - i can validate it.
:sleep: jesus christ, what was taht? are u going to dig up a 12-year old booklet from your stash to prove that ur "ride-or-die"-producer mixed a song once?
take ur L and move on, dont waste any more time. your defensive groupie-arguments are disgusting, and explains why u get shitted on so much on this forum
(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/ewww/grand/ewww-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-573.gif)
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^come on now.
im not even an expert on Meech at all, but i assure you hes a beatmaker,
he doesnt play any instruments,, read notes,, and probly doesnt even arrange the music wit his performers in the studio (becuz he hardly even mixes his own songs, as i can tell by lookin at his credits).
dont care if he tried out the keyboards wit his dad when he was a kid.
his profession is beats - he makes beats and sends em to rappers in protools or seperate WAVE-files
through e-mails, just like 95percent of all the "producers" in teh rapgame does..
hey Will,
i know u have love-relationship wit ur favorite DPG-related "musicians", (sure thing, i'm a fan myself),
and you like to glorify their craft the best way u can,, but its time for you to start lookin at things objectively
, instead of actin like a defensive groupie all the time.
end thread
(http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Cats/Retard.jpg)
please, Mike - i can validate it.
:sleep: jesus christ, what was taht? are u going to dig up a 12-year old booklet from your stash to prove that ur "ride-or-die"-producer mixed a song once?
take ur L and move on, dont waste any more time. your defensive groupie-arguments are disgusting, and explains why u get shitted on so much on this forum
(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/ewww/grand/ewww-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-573.gif)
Weak :)
Step it up a next time, keep your knowledge up and try and prove me wrong instead of going down the "u mad" route
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^ already did, 8) ,,,,he even said himself in teh inteview u linked that he always uses a drummachine. hence, a beatmaker. just cuz he tried out the keyboard once on a song or when he was playin around wit his daddy in the studio as a young'n, doesnt make him a fullfledged "musician",, dumbass
but thanks for the testosterone u sprinkled in the thread, just becuz u couldn't validate ur "important" beliefs in your emotional rollercoaster of yippity yipp-yabbering.
(http://images55.fotki.com/v1603/photos/2/1226082/9197780/smholdblacklady-vi.gif)
never liked him that much to be honest. the only tracks he had that were good were co-prod by Quazedelic imo
meech was fire though from top dogg to tha eastsidaz albums and tha last meal. dogg house was doin' the damn thing then !!!!!!!!!!!!
well okay,,if you like Meech i suggest u check out the album "Inglewood's Best Kept secret" by Big Boone, it had dope stuff by Meech
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Fuck outta here "didn't validate"
Got cry into your hanky coz people don't worship your 'fake jazzy generic' sounding producers
"he called such and such a musician, I heard he struggles with playin chopsticks on a Casio :'("
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^come on now.
im not even an expert on Meech at all, but i assure you hes a beatmaker,
he doesnt play any instruments,, read notes,, and probly doesnt even arrange the music wit his performers in the studio (becuz he hardly even mixes his own songs, as i can tell by lookin at his credits).
dont care if he tried out the keyboards wit his dad when he was a kid.
his profession is beats - he makes beats and sends em to rappers in protools or seperate WAVE-files
through e-mails, just like 95percent of all the "producers" in teh rapgame does..
hey Will,
i know u have love-relationship wit ur favorite DPG-related "musicians", (sure thing, i'm a fan myself),
and you like to glorify their craft the best way u can,, but its time for you to start lookin at things objectively, instead of actin like a defensive groupie all the time. pathetic..
end thread
well, the beats he makes is music...therefore, he is a musician. a drum machine is just as much an instrument as a clarinet. through human contact, it makes music. thats what a musician is. now, u can say hes not a musician on the level of others (dj quik, the roots, etc), but at the end of the day, if u make music, u are a musician
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^cool, but ur readin into it
the thing is--,,
me, or you, could make a beat wit any prefered mac-software or drummachine on the market, and sell it --> depending on how "dope" it is, how "original" or "dope" the sample is (if we choose to use one), or how "hot" we are as namebrands -->
but that doenst necessarily make either of us musicians.
catch my drift? a beatmaker is just a beatmaker, if u want to refer to them as musicians go ahead though, i wont stop u. ;)
rant rant rant ,rabble ,rant ,lost my marbles, Meech Wells mixed this record, he played the keys,, lost my marbles, rant, rabble yippity yapp whatever the fuck mad mad etc etc etc
zzzZZZzzzZZz.. tedious groupie,
the way things are goin it wouldnt surpirse me if ur goin to attempt to prove
to me that Snoop Dogg is a professional opera-singer next. "he raised the voice on this one song. look, Mike. look - i have proof"
your dragging down good arguments in threads when u can't prove jackshit & succumbes to your "crybaby"-routine,
just becuz you're emotionaly intertwined wit ur favorite artists (or whatever) as a groupie
buzz off, you old weirdo
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^cool, but ur readin into it
the thing is--,,
me, or you, could make a beat wit any prefered mac-software or drummachine on the market, and sell it --> depending on how "dope" it is, how "original" or "dope" the sample is (if we choose to use one), or how "hot" we are as namebrands -->
but that doenst necessarily make either of us musicians.
catch my drift? a beatmaker is just a beatmaker, if u want to refer to them as musicians go ahead though, i wont stop u. ;)
rant rant rant ,rabble ,rant ,lost my marbles, Meech Wells mixed this record, he played the keys,, lost my marbles, rant, rabble yippity yapp whatever the fuck mad mad etc etc etc
zzzZZZzzzZZz.. tedious groupie,
the way things are goin it wouldnt surpirse me if ur goin to attempt to prove
to me that Snoop Dogg is a professional opera-singer. "look, he raised the voice on this one song. look, Mike. look - i have proof"
your dragging down good arguments in threads when u can't prove jackshit & succumbes to your "crybaby"-routine,
just becuz you're emotionaly intertwined wit ur favorite artists (or whatever) as a groupie
buzz off, you old weirdo
if we made a profession out of it, we'd be musicians.....thats going by the definition.
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"Being the son of Motown legend Mary Wells may have helped jumpstart Meech Wells' career, but the West Coast rap producer quickly proved his talent and eventually aligned himself with Snoop Dogg, another relationship that definitely didn't hurt his career. Before being Snoop's producer of choice during the late '90s and early 2000s, Wells began his career as part of a funk band called Trey Lewd that also featured Tracey Lewis, George Clinton's son; this provided him with the opportunity to work with Clinton himself. By 1993, Wells found himself working alongside producer/rapper Def Jef; the two's production on Shaquille O'Neil's "I Got Skillz" (a surprise hit single) won them instant credentials. Throughout the mid-'90s, he continued to hone his craft, working on a number of remix projects before eventually being introduced to Snoop through a friend. Before long, the two were working together as a potent duo, beginning with "Still a G Thang," one of the better songs on Snoop's Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told. Wells produced a few No Limit songs featuring Snoop -- Tru's "It's a Beautiful Thang," Silkk the Shocker's "Get It Up" -- before playing a major role in bringing a West Coast sound to Snoop's Top Dogg album in 1999: "In Love With a Thug," "Better Days," "Gangsta Ride," among others. In 2000 he reprised his role as one of Snoop's producers of choice, producing tracks for Tha Eastsidaz' self-titled debut and Doggy's Angels' Pleezbalevit, as well as Snoop's own Tha Last Meal ("Go Away," "Issues")."
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/meech-wells-mn0000869654
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http://www.discogs.com/Trey-Lewd-Drop-The-Line/release/224312
Cecil Womack (aka Meech Wells)
Song writer, Keys, Drum programming and vocals.
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i love quaze, i mean i love the few beats i heard from him... i should do my homework and check the rest he did.
i'm a huge meech wells fan tho, meech really dropped heat on NLTD (My Heat Goes Boom), TLM, Tha Eastsidaz two albums (Now We Lay Em Down, Nigga 4 Life,Tha G in Dee, Now Is The Time)
my favorite Meech produced song :
http://www.youtube.com/v/NbkP9Le4lRI
being a full-fledged musician doesn't make someone a better producer or engineer though, a lot of producers are musicians but aren't outstanding producers, while lousy musicians (quincy jones, dr dre) make sometimes great producers. producing rap music didn't involve music playing in the first place, it might come in handy, especially in west coast and down south rap but it's not a sine qua non condition to be a great producer. Terrace Martin can't fuck with Primo, Warren G or Pete Rock.
that being said i can believe quaze being better than meech, i loved dogghouse america and nite l.o.c.'s
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there is a 120+ different album-credits for Meech. i havent seen his name tied to an instrument-credit more than once. thats not enough to adress him as a musician,
he doesnt even mix his own songs, all teh stuff he produced were usually mixed by the guy who he produced the track wit (i.e. Def Jeff, Keith Clarke).
hes a drummachine-beatmaker, thats what he does. i dont care if he played keys in a band as a teen
thanks for the detective work tho lol
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there is a 120+ different album-credits for Meech. i havent seen his name tied to an instrument-credit more than once. thats not enough to adress him as a musician,
he doesnt even mix his own songs, all teh stuff he produced were usually mixed by the guy who he produced the track wit (i.e. Def Jeff, Keith Clarke).
hes a drummachine-beatmaker, thats what he does. i dont care if he played keys in a band as a teen
thanks for the detective work tho lol
He was 25 when the Trey Lewd album dropped in 92, by that time he was already workin with George Clinton etc.
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i love quaze, i mean i love the few beats i heard from him... i should do my homework and check the rest he did.
i'm a huge meech wells fan tho, meech really dropped heat on NLTD (My Heat Goes Boom), TLM, Tha Eastsidaz two albums (Now We Lay Em Down, Nigga 4 Life,Tha G in Dee, Now Is The Time)
my favorite Meech produced song :
http://www.youtube.com/v/NbkP9Le4lRI
being a full-fledged musician doesn't make someone a better producer or engineer though, a lot of producers are musicians but aren't outstanding producers, while lousy musicians (quincy jones, dr dre) make sometimes great producers. producing rap music didn't involve music playing in the first place, it might come in handy, especially in west coast and down south rap but it's not a sine qua non condition to be a great producer. Terrace Martin can't fuck with Primo, Warren G or Pete Rock.
yeah exactly
B-Real played congas on one song in his career,, but hes not a conga-player in my book.
,,,rapper Scarface played the guitar on just one of his songs in his discography before.
he even had a hobby rock-band (that never released anythin, but still- im sayin)
can he be adressed as a fullfedged musician professionaly though?
would u call him a musician?
no, u probly wouldn't.. hes a rapper, and occasionaly AkaiMPC-beatmaker.
it makes sense if one would actually think about it, instead of raving like a defensive/hysteric groupie (a'la Wilbert). just look at it objectively for a sec.
just because u dabbled into and tried somethin out, it doesn't solidify you as a musician
in Meech' case, he doesnt mix his own stuff (as i can tell,if i look at almost all of his documented credits), and his entire career in teh hiphopgame to this day, consists of loose MPC4000 or 3000-beats based mostly on like 8 or 9 sounds, which Will is probly too deaf to hear (& he hardly arranges the music for his artists either, just sells 'em beats) --> so i'm not going to adress him as a musician, even if he fucked around wit keys (lol wow) in some band 21 (!) friggin years ago, or if his mom worked wit Smokey Robinson in the 1960's,lol. hes def a beatmaker,,some of his beats were dope as fuck tho definitely.i love the stuff he had on Big Boones album. 8)
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Dubcnn: What equipment do you use and what's your working process when making a beat?
Meech Wells: I'm using the MPC 4000, I started with the MPC back in the day, when I had first came out, so I just stayed with that line. MPC 4000, all computer stuff now like plug-ins. I sold all my keyboards, it's a whole new sound right now. It's all coming from the computers
^ a beatmaker
Quote #2
Dubcnn: When you work with an artist, do you fit the beat to the artist or vice versa?
Meech Wells: Yeah a lot of them I had the beat first cause by doing the mixtape stuff now we conditioned to what's going on. So it's like I'll have beats already
^ a beatmaker
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there is a 120+ different album-credits for Meech. i havent seen his name tied to an instrument-credit more than once. thats not enough to adress him as a musician,
he doesnt even mix his own songs, all teh stuff he produced were usually mixed by the guy who he produced the track wit (i.e. Def Jeff, Keith Clarke).
hes a drummachine-beatmaker, thats what he does. i dont care if he played keys in a band as a teen
thanks for the detective work tho lol
drum machine is an instrument
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depends on how u look at it, & how u choose to define it from ur own pointofview
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depends on how u look at it, & how u choose to define it from ur own pointofview
in the end, it comes down to this
does meech wells make music as a profession? if so, he is a musician. if u dont consider what he does music, thats another topic of discussion. actually, there are a lot of people who dont consider music made electronically music at all. some people say rap is not music. so u can say he's not a real musician, if u dont consider what he does real music. but i consider rap music, and i consider the drum machine just as much an instrument as a piano.....so considering that, he is a musician. now, is he a musician on the level of dj quik? probably not. but still a musician, nonetheless, as his profession is music. but like i said, if rap is not considered music to you, then thats a whole nother topic of discussion.
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yea what he creates is music,
but i still prefer to call him a beatmaker rather than a musician
i can seperate beatmakers wit real musicians and producers without readin into it (and so can u), its not hard at all. Meech Wells is most def a beatmaker
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yea what he creates is music,
but i still prefer to call him a beatmaker rather than a musician
i can seperate beatmakers wit real musicians and producers without readin into it (and so can u), its not hard at all. Meech Wells is most def a beatmaker
but thats like telling some dude who plays the clarinet "you're a clarinet player, not a musician"...considering beats are music, they're musicians. going by the definition, beatmakers are musicians. if u made urself ur own definition, thats fine. but dont expect every1 to agree with you. i do see what ur saying, tho.
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yea what he creates is music,
but i still prefer to call him a beatmaker rather than a musician
i can seperate beatmakers wit real musicians and producers without readin into it (and so can u), its not hard at all. Meech Wells is most def a beatmaker
but thats like telling some dude who plays the clarinet "you're a clarinet player, not a musician"...considering beats are music, they're musicians. going by the definition, beatmakers are musicians. if u made urself ur own definition, thats fine. but dont expect every1 to agree with you. i do see what ur saying, tho.
Mikes tryin to enforce his view that a guy like Cecil D Womack Jr., who has been involved in music 30+ years and a professional musician & producer 20 years, is now ONLY to be considered a Beatmaker because of the work he's doing since leaving Doggystyle records.
I disagree simply because he's actually been a manager since, and is developing his own artists which involves working very closely with them from conception of the track to the finished product. As opposed to a 'standard' beatmaker that sells finished beats by email or whatever.
Also when Meech hooked back up with Snoop recently he was developing songs with Kokane, again not just 'handing' people beats..
Anyway Mike knows all this he's just playing devils advocate like the good troll that he is.
"Never back down :'("
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a beatmaker is a beatmaker.
the guy made beats wit an akai-mpc machine for a living, since he started out professionaly in the rapgame wit his co-producer Def Jeff back in 1993/1994. (he used co-producers for his beats for a long part of his career as well, Quaze, Def Jeff, Keith Clarke, Soul Mechanix, and he hardly even mixes his own shit),, his small stint as a keyboardist in a funkband 21 years ago is as relevant as rapper Scarface's career as a guitar-player in a rockband.
look at his own quotes objectively, instead of spazzing out as the melodramatic soap-opera queen u are (but his dad is a legend :boohoo:
Quote#1
Dubcnn: What equipment do you use and what's your working process when making a beat?
Meech Wells: I'm using the MPC 4000, I started with the MPC back in the day, when I had first came out, so I just stayed with that line. MPC 4000, all computer stuff now like plug-ins. I sold all my keyboards, it's a whole new sound right now. It's all coming from the computers
^ a beatmaker
Quote #2
Dubcnn: When you work with an artist, do you fit the beat to the artist or vice versa?
Meech Wells: Yeah a lot of them I had the beat first cause by doing the mixtape stuff now we conditioned to what's going on. So it's like I'll have beats already
^ a beatmaker
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yea what he creates is music,
but i still prefer to call him a beatmaker rather than a musician
i can seperate beatmakers wit real musicians and producers without readin into it (and so can u), its not hard at all. Meech Wells is most def a beatmaker
if u made urself ur own definition, thats fine. but dont expect every1 to agree with you. i do see what ur saying, tho.
u know what im talkin about, & u know where im coming from wit my argument, so lets leave it at that.
i don't define a protools-emailing beatmaker as a musician, even tho he does contribute to a song wit an instrumental
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a beatmaker is a beatmaker.
the guy made beats wit an akai-mpc machine for a living, since he started out professionaly in the rapgame wit his co-producer Def Jeff back in 1993/1994. (he used co-producers for his beats for a long part of his career as well, Quaze, Def Jeff, Keith Clarke, Soul Mechanix, and he hardly even mixes his own shit),, his small stint as a keyboardist in a funkband 21 years ago is as relevant as rapper Scarface's career as a guitar-player in a rockband.
look at his own quotes objectively, instead of spazzing out as the melodramatic soap-opera queen u are (but his dad is a legend :boohoo:
Quote#1
Dubcnn: What equipment do you use and what's your working process when making a beat?
Meech Wells: I'm using the MPC 4000, I started with the MPC back in the day, when I had first came out, so I just stayed with that line. MPC 4000, all computer stuff now like plug-ins. I sold all my keyboards, it's a whole new sound right now. It's all coming from the computers
^ a beatmaker
Quote #2
Dubcnn: When you work with an artist, do you fit the beat to the artist or vice versa?
Meech Wells: Yeah a lot of them I had the beat first cause by doing the mixtape stuff now we conditioned to what's going on. So it's like I'll have beats already
^ a beatmaker
Your quotes are from 2006.
Just bumping Suited n Booted - keys are so dope :whistle:
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he isnt any more of a so-called "musician" now as he was in 2006.
"but he made the beat for my favorite Snoop-song "Take U Home" :boohoo:
stop wasting time, ginger-brit - run along
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he isnt any more of a so-called "musician" now as he was in 2006.
You looked at one quote from a 20 year career.
"such and such artist took a year out from music, how u gonna call them a singer now? they less of a singer than before they started"
Oh really?
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you're retarded.
is Snoop a fullfledged reaggae-singer cuz he decided to be one yesterday?
and like i said
he isnt any more of a so-called "musician" now as he was in 2006.
"but he made the beat for my favorite Snoop-song "Take U Home" :boohoo:
now stop wasting time, ginger-brit - run along. it's obvious u suffer from some kind of "inferiority complex", thats why u keep coming back wit ur repititive blahzay blahazay all the time in an attempt to validate ur important beliefs (which i dont even care about)
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you're retarded.
is Snoop a fullfledged reaggae-singer cuz he decided to be one yesterday?
Actually u got it backwards.
By your same logic Snoop is now a reggae singer and can no longer be called a rapper.
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I still bump Meech's jefa's music... haha...
Mary Wells... one of my fave...
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he isnt any more of a so-called "musician" now as he was in 2006.
You looked at one quote from a 20 year career.
"such and such artist took a year out from music, how u gonna call them a singer now? they less of a singer than before they started"
Oh really?
i found an interview wit Ice Cube from 2006.
he said he was a rapper.
but he isnt one today, becuz the interview was from 2006 right?
jokes aside,
do u have any idea how desperate u look?
do u pull ur hair out right now? dont waste anymore time, ur retarded & a serious discussion wit u is absolutely pointless
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do u have any idea how desperate u look?
do u pull ur hair out right now? dont waste anymore time, ur retarded & a serious discussion wit u is absolutely pointless
Mike by your logic YOU are desperate too.
You wont acknowledge Meechs more than a simple beat maker. His platinum back catalogue is there as evidence, so what if he had a couple years underground (developing artist anyway)
"LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD :'("
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"I killed them because they didn't see soudscannerz ultimate superiority and pureness"
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i don't aknowlege your beloved "ride-or-die"beatmaker as a musician, cuz i look at his beats objectively & use common sense. it has nothin to wit me being a fan.
in all honesty - you're pathetic and hilarious at the same time, as proven by your Asperger-esque posts in this thread, and u get owned cuz ur retarded & u always let the inner-groupie in you take control of you in these type of arguments, when you can't validate ur belifes. no offense
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i don't aknowlege your beloved "ride-or-die"beatmaker as a musician, cuz i look at his beats objectively & use common sense. it has nothin to wit me being a fan.
in all honesty - you're pathetic and hilarious at the same time, as proven by your Asperger-esque posts in this thread, and u get owned cuz ur retarded & u always let the inner-groupie in you take control of you in these type of arguments, when you can't validate ur belifes. no offense
"OWNED, FAIL RABBLE RABBLE NEARLY 30 AND NEVER HAD A JOB...BUT I WIN ON THE INTERNET EVERY DAY :'("
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like i said, u are definitely retarded. now go and cry crocodile-tears to an administrator on this forum, and tell 'em how mean i was to you in this thread.. "mike disagreed" :boohoo:
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LAST WORD. I AM 5
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nope, but i am waaaay younger than you though - thats what makes you so pathetic
8)
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STILL TRYIN. THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT MEECH
"Soundscannerz :'("
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you need therapy :-\
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you both need couples therapy
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i am a musician for the person who said im just a beat maker and me and snoop gnna do some moe shit i just been busy working on some movie and tv projects gettin money ya know but im still here and aint going no whr! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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i am a musician for the person who said im just a beat maker and me and snoop gnna do some moe shit i just been busy working on some movie and tv projects gettin money ya know but im still here and aint going no whr! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
There u go 8)
Good to hear, keep us posted Meech