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Title: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 20, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
Seriously.  Is anyone better right now?

I say no.  

After I saw that shit he spit on Funk Flex, it really hit me that Kendrick is the best rapper in the game right now.  Im pretty sure when his album leaks/drops he is going to have a major buzz and we are going to hear a westcoast classic.  The west has not seen this much potential or hype since The Game dropped "The Documentary".  

Discuss.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 20, 2012, 06:13:27 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Desert Lord on September 20, 2012, 06:20:52 PM
Seriously.  Is anyone better right now?

I say no.  

After I saw that shit he spit on Funk Flex, it really hit me that Kendrick is the best rapper in the game right now.  Im pretty sure when his album leaks/drops he is going to have a major buzz and we are going to hear a westcoast classic.  The west has not seen this much potential or hype since The Game dropped "The Documentary".  

Discuss.

i don't saw much potential in game when documentary dropped to be honest...
kendrick is another story, i'm curious to hear his album because he definetly got potential. but "the best rapper alive" goes a little to far imo
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Invincible on September 20, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Remedy360 on September 20, 2012, 06:27:42 PM
Kenrick is one of my favorites, and you can make a case for "hottest in the game" or something like that, but best rapper? No.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 20, 2012, 06:30:04 PM
no
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: PLANT on September 20, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.
do you feel they are better right now than Kendrick?
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 20, 2012, 06:40:21 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick



let's be real here, Kendrick failed at copying Lil Wayne early in his career and now that he became himself he's an above average rapper but nothing close to great.  The recipe was the dopest beat of the spring and even then I'll say he failed to do that beat as much justice as he could have.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 20, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
In terms of career hes obviously not better than Nas or Rakim or whatever, but I think hes the best rapper there is right now, and looking into the future, I feel like hes going to stay at that point. 
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Russell Bell on September 20, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
Hes good.  Every once in a while he makes a really good song.  Hes completely hit or miss (song by song) for me.  It makes me sad hearing some of the potential features on his upcoming album, but its not like the guy is selling cds out of the trunk of his car in a parking lot so I guess I understand why; it just wont encourage me to buy the album any.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Russell Bell on September 20, 2012, 07:14:38 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick



let's be real here, Kendrick failed at copying Lil Wayne early in his career and now that he became himself he's an above average rapper but nothing close to great.  The recipe was the dopest beat of the spring and even then I'll say he failed to do that beat as much justice as he could have.

Im glad that trend in hip hop is almost over, if not completely.  Wayne was good in his own right but jesus h christ every rapper from new york to oakland was trying to sound like him for a time. 
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: papa-smurf on September 20, 2012, 09:39:23 PM
kendrick is dope but not the best rapper alive.im more into rappers like nas.suga free & etc
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 20, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Of the new wave of rappers, I'd say he has potential to be one of the best. But it's way too early to be calling him "best rapper alive". We'll see what happens after his debut drops.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: h2k4 on September 20, 2012, 09:44:03 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick



let's be real here, Kendrick failed at copying Lil Wayne early in his career and now that he became himself he's an above average rapper but nothing close to great.  The recipe was the dopest beat of the spring and even then I'll say he failed to do that beat as much justice as he could have.

Who's to say he's being himself?  When he first came out, he was talking sort of that Gangsta shit mixed with a little bit of what he's doing now.  A few people thought he was dope but overall felt that he was going to be in the shadow of Jay Rock.  Then he switched up his style to mimick Lil' Wayne and then the majority of the people hated him and said he was wack.  Now that he switched up his style again and claims he's just being himself, everyone loves him and swears up and down he's the West Coast savior.  Put the Dre tramp stamp on him and now everyone is riding his nuts.  Westcoast fans are so weird.

I always felt K. Dot was dope and had it in him to become a big name but it seems like his star power has risen because of his newly found relationship with Dre.  Sucks that Dre still has his thumb on the Westcoast.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 20, 2012, 09:53:16 PM
kendrick is far from being a Snoop
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: RingMan on September 21, 2012, 02:13:50 AM
In terms of career hes obviously not better than Nas or Rakim or whatever, but I think hes the best rapper there is right now, and looking into the future, I feel like hes going to stay at that point. 
I wouldn't say the best rapper, but he is one of the best right now, let's see if the album pushes him even higher
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: wcsoldier on September 21, 2012, 02:20:22 AM
The "title" is definetely there for the taking since there hasn't been a great mainstream album for quite some years
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: doggfather on September 21, 2012, 03:10:08 AM
Kenrick is one of my favorites, and you can make a case for "hottest in the game" or something like that, but best rapper? No.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Gamestarr on September 21, 2012, 03:46:25 AM
lmao
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Will_B on September 21, 2012, 05:51:26 AM
Maybe u could say one of the best newer rappers with his introspective shit

That's all that makes him standout IMO
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: The_Offence on September 21, 2012, 06:08:33 AM
i like kendrick but nipsey is a better rapper in my opinion. kendrick has some weird music that i can't listen too. you know those track where he does that weird voice ? i can't listen to that shit.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Will_B on September 21, 2012, 06:24:48 AM
i like kendrick but nipsey is a better rapper in my opinion. kendrick has some weird music that i can't listen too. you know those track where he does that weird voice ? i can't listen to that shit.

The Andre 3k thing?
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: The_Offence on September 21, 2012, 06:30:16 AM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick



let's be real here, Kendrick failed at copying Lil Wayne early in his career and now that he became himself he's an above average rapper but nothing close to great.  The recipe was the dopest beat of the spring and even then I'll say he failed to do that beat as much justice as he could have.

Who's to say he's being himself?  When he first came out, he was talking sort of that Gangsta shit mixed with a little bit of what he's doing now.  A few people thought he was dope but overall felt that he was going to be in the shadow of Jay Rock.  Then he switched up his style to mimick Lil' Wayne and then the majority of the people hated him and said he was wack.  Now that he switched up his style again and claims he's just being himself, everyone loves him and swears up and down he's the West Coast savior.  Put the Dre tramp stamp on him and now everyone is riding his nuts.  Westcoast fans are so weird.

I always felt K. Dot was dope and had it in him to become a big name but it seems like his star power has risen because of his newly found relationship with Dre.  Sucks that Dre still has his thumb on the Westcoast.
dre will always have his thumb on the west coast because he's a high ranking Illuminati member. this nigga is almost 50 and he's still god on the west coast. no way you can tell me dre is not in the Illuminati. niggas like dre, Oprah, jay z, p diddy, Russel simmons, eminem, will smith, 50 cent ect are all high ranking Illuminati members. some of these niggas are right under our noses with that shit and niggas are more focused on these new cats being in the Illuminati. look how powerful all these niggas got once they linked up with dre. look how powerful 50 & eminem became once dre excepted them into the devils world. movies, clothing lines, deals with coca cola. they don't let black people gain this much power unless they're doing some fucked up shit for the man.. a black woman like Oprah as one of the most powerful women in the world ? America don't let us gain power unless we're doing dirty work for them.. dre is one of the biggest Illuminati member that people over look. don't be shocked if you see this nigga dre running for the mayor of California soon. look how powerful eminem became in a short period of time. Oprah can call shots like shes the president my nigga. don't be surprised if Oprah becomes the first woman president.. this nigga dre had the world waiting on detox lmao, niggas are selling their asses to buy some beats by dre lol. this nigga is a high ranking Illuminati member that people over look.  people are focus on these lil new rappers wearing a shirt with some eyes on it. them niggas just doing that shit for attention. the real Illuminati members are the powerful niggas in the game. the ones that wouldn't wear a stupid shirt to call attention to themselves. think about bro. all this nigga has to do is say your name in a few interviews and your on your way to becoming a star.  are you kidding me ? a black man from compton with that much power  :D thats that Illuminati power!
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Sccit on September 21, 2012, 07:40:19 AM
come on, my dude...this shit looks like a troll thread.


Kendrick is a good rapper...but he has a long way 2 go if he wants 2 be mentioned amongst the GREATS.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: UCC on September 21, 2012, 10:23:36 AM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 21, 2012, 11:08:48 AM
come on, my dude...this shit looks like a troll thread.


Kendrick is a good rapper...but he has a long way 2 go if he wants 2 be mentioned amongst the GREATS.
I never mentioned him amongst any greats.  I said I think hes the best rapper out right now.  Im looking at the rap game as a whole right now, thinking...there is nobody better than kendrick right now.  And his album hasnt even dropped yet.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: PLANT on September 21, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...

No offense but I dont see any of these artist you mentioned dropping a better album than Kendrick anytime soon.  Chuck D?  Cmon dude, maybe in 88!
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: DJ Warrior on September 21, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
come on, my dude...this shit looks like a troll thread.


Kendrick is a good rapper...but he has a long way 2 go if he wants 2 be mentioned amongst the GREATS.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Invincible on September 21, 2012, 11:40:05 AM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...

No offense but I dont see any of these artist you mentioned dropping a better album than Kendrick anytime soon.  Chuck D?  Cmon dude, maybe in 88!

You can't say that till you've heard the album. It might be full of mainstream sounding bullshit. It is coming out through Aftermath after all.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: pixtr on September 21, 2012, 12:09:09 PM
even Jay Rock or Maylay are better than Kendrick
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: PLANT on September 21, 2012, 12:53:31 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...

No offense but I dont see any of these artist you mentioned dropping a better album than Kendrick anytime soon.  Chuck D?  Cmon dude, maybe in 88!

You can't say that till you've heard the album. It might be full of mainstream sounding bullshit. It is coming out through Aftermath after all.
"GKMC" will delivery, Im sure of that.  Read the reviews from the listening sessions.  Having said that, I highly doubt any of the above mentioned artists are making an album that comes even close to Section 80.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...

No offense but I dont see any of these artist you mentioned dropping a better album than Kendrick anytime soon.  Chuck D?  Cmon dude, maybe in 88!
black thought always show and prove on the roots albums.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: RingMan on September 21, 2012, 01:25:40 PM
even Jay Rock or Maylay are better than Kendrick
yet nobody knows them, compared to Kendrick
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 21, 2012, 01:29:32 PM
even Jay Rock or Maylay are better than Kendrick
yet nobody knows them, compared to Kendrick
I dont feel these guys are on Kendricks level.  Ab-Soul is a better spitter than both.  Dont get me wrong, I think Rock is dope, but cant spit like Kendrick, or write songs like KDot
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Sccit on September 21, 2012, 01:50:46 PM
come on, my dude...this shit looks like a troll thread.


Kendrick is a good rapper...but he has a long way 2 go if he wants 2 be mentioned amongst the GREATS.
I never mentioned him amongst any greats.  I said I think hes the best rapper out right now.  Im looking at the rap game as a whole right now, thinking...there is nobody better than kendrick right now.  And his album hasnt even dropped yet.


lol Tech N9ne is lightyears ahead of Kendrick, as far as rappin goes. Lynch is still puttin out great records with his "Mannibalector" trilogy....Raided just put out a new album which rapping-wise, destroy's anything Kendrick has done. you got a super group in Slaughterhouse, who have Royce and Crooked I. You got underground rappers who would lyrically destroy Kendrick, like Locksmith, Ill Bill, etc..even as far as new school rappers, u got a few cats like Big Krit, Curren$y, etc. who are at least on Kendricks level.... Kendrick is technically a beast behind the mic. but he hasnt really developed his character..there are rappers out there who are still undiscovered who are better. to say he's "the best rapper alive" is a stretch.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Remedy360 on September 21, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
I think a lot of the appeal in Kendrick is that he's a lot different than most dudes out right now. He's got some nice rhymes, but I don't see him ever being a guy that's gonna completely blow people away with his shit like the greats have done in the past, that's OK though. Dude is great at what he does.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: pixtr on September 21, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
even Jay Rock or Maylay are better than Kendrick
yet nobody knows them, compared to Kendrick
I dont feel these guys are on Kendricks level.  Ab-Soul is a better spitter than both.  Dont get me wrong, I think Rock is dope, but cant spit like Kendrick, or write songs like KDot
I think the same way if we talk about lyrics, but Maylay has a lot of generic west tracks and each of these dope songs are better than Kendrick's, maybe I was wrong about Rock but i love his mixtape called 'Coming Soon To A Hood Near You' which is much better than his solo album FMH and I based on that when I wrote comment
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2012, 02:33:45 PM
The "title" is definetely there for the taking since there hasn't been a great mainstream album for quite some years
trouble man 12.18.12
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on September 21, 2012, 03:34:59 PM
People act like Section 80 wasn't the best album to drop last year. The potential for Kendrick is huge, and in my opinion he's going to live up to it. I'm not mad at his features, Kendrick has never disappointed me with his choice of guests in the past and I don't see him making some weak shit just because, he's gonna bring the artists into his world, not the other way around.

I think people are quick to catch feelings when someone says "Best Rapper Alive" because they think of their favourite rappers who in reality probably fell of 10-15 years ago but they still hold on to that legacy. Whoever mentioned Chuck D is crazy, PE are legendary, but if Chuck and Kendrick both dropped tomorrow you would really wanna listen to Chuck's new album first and expect it to be better? smh

I think we need to wait for GKMC to drop before we starting throwing round the Best Rapper Alive title though.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on September 21, 2012, 03:57:27 PM
People act like Section 80 wasn't the best album to drop last year. T

cuz simply it wasnt  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: UCC on September 21, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
One of the more recent Chuck D tracks with PE, "Harder Than You Think" was used all over the Olympics coverage and it re-charted

So yeah, newer Chuck D stuff is better than Kendrick, not even having to go back to the 80s stuff...
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 21, 2012, 11:04:54 PM
lol Tech N9ne is lightyears ahead of Kendrick, as far as rappin goes. Lynch is still puttin out great records with his "Mannibalector" trilogy....Raided just put out a new album which rapping-wise, destroy's anything Kendrick has done. you got a super group in Slaughterhouse, who have Royce and Crooked I. You got underground rappers who would lyrically destroy Kendrick, like Locksmith, Ill Bill, etc..even as far as new school rappers, u got a few cats like Big Krit, Curren$y, etc. who are at least on Kendricks level.... Kendrick is technically a beast behind the mic. but he hasnt really developed his character..there are rappers out there who are still undiscovered who are better. to say he's "the best rapper alive" is a stretch.
I don't know I think, outside of Tech N9ne, Kendrick got it on a lot of them. Slaughterhouse are exceptional lyricists but I think Kendrick might be the stronger artist. Best rapper alive is definitely a premature statement but the guy has some hot records at the moment. We'll see what he does with this Aftermath release. Album is make or break to me. There's a lot of super-talented MC's out there but truly great albums are hard to come by. He is one of those artists that has me excited about music at the moment but we'll see if he has longevity with it.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 21, 2012, 11:46:18 PM
Not even close. Section 80 was dope but wasn't even the best album of the year, let alone of the past few years. I'd consider him one of the best "newer" rappers though.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 21, 2012, 11:55:26 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

KOOL G RAP, GZA, Chino XL, Mc Juice, Eminem etc. are also miles ahead of Kendrick

Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, Pharoahe Monch, Chuck D, Gift of Gab, Tech N9ne, AZ, OC, Black Thought...

Even if we're being generous, there's at least 50 rappers who are better than him, probably a lot more...

No offense but I dont see any of these artist you mentioned dropping a better album than Kendrick anytime soon.  Chuck D?  Cmon dude, maybe in 88!

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Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 21, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
People act like Section 80 wasn't the best album to drop last year.

It wasn't. It wasn't even the best west coast album that year. Go listen to Thurz - LA Riot. A debut concept album about the 92 LA Riots.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Enigma on September 22, 2012, 01:55:18 AM
There's definitely a case for Kendrick to be the best rapper in the game at the moment. He's without a shadow of a doubt the best on the west coast, but to start mentioning people like AZ, Ghostface, c'mon now. All time sure they take the cake but they're not dropping music like Kendrick right now. Most rappers nowadays can't even do shows without rapping over their own vocals with the record playing in the background. Kendrick will rap purely without missing a breath and no vocals in the background, even with TOUGH verses like The Recipe. Dude didn't even stop to catch his breath. He's something special and soon everyone will notice it.

And LMAO @ anyone thinking Jay Rock or Nipsey is better than him, get real. I saw someone mention Tech N9ne, and I love tech, he raps his ass off. But half the time he isn't talking about shit on his records. Every single Kendrick song out there has substance, something missing from a lot of hip hop. Oh yeah, AND he doesn't brag about jewelry and cars which is a breath of fresh air.

Look back to my history, I said in 2009 that Kendrick was our best hope and that if more of the Westcoast took up his style we'd be in good shape. 3 years later TDE owns the Westcoast and Jay Rock (the TDE member who was afraid to step out of the box and still raps about shit like "bitch I'm thuggin") has by far the smallest buzz in the clique.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: UCC on September 22, 2012, 05:32:22 AM
The one thing I haven't kind of been able to pin down with Kendrick, is how to sum him up easily for a mainstream audience like:

Eminem - crazy pill-popping white trash with sick battle rhymes
NWA/Dre/Game/etc. - group of LA gangstas
Public Enemy - political rap over noisy beats
Wu-Tang - raw hip-hop with Kung-Fu samples
A Tribe Called Quest - conscious Jazz rap
Snoop - laidback gangsta pimp
Cypress Hill - rock/rap weed smokers

Like most of the mainstream people have really obvious themes to latch onto, so they are easy to "get" for a large audience...

I don't know enough about Kendrick at all to know what his might be, but so far, it seems like, "guy from West Coast who is pretty good rapper"
Is that about right?







 
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on September 22, 2012, 05:37:34 AM
Kendrick is good, I mean for this new generation he actually fits, he understood that it wasn't only about west coast but hiphop culture in general wich is why I think people are feeling him he is universal
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: WalterOhDim on September 22, 2012, 07:51:15 AM
I doubt it ... let's compare Xzibit's album to his and then decide...
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 22, 2012, 10:09:24 AM
He's without a shadow of a doubt the best on the west coast

Thurz? Blu? Fashawn? I like Kendrick but cmon now...
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Sccit on September 22, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
There's definitely a case for Kendrick to be the best rapper in the game at the moment. He's without a shadow of a doubt the best on the west coast, but to start mentioning people like AZ, Ghostface, c'mon now. All time sure they take the cake but they're not dropping music like Kendrick right now. Most rappers nowadays can't even do shows without rapping over their own vocals with the record playing in the background. Kendrick will rap purely without missing a breath and no vocals in the background, even with TOUGH verses like The Recipe. Dude didn't even stop to catch his breath. He's something special and soon everyone will notice it.

And LMAO @ anyone thinking Jay Rock or Nipsey is better than him, get real. I saw someone mention Tech N9ne, and I love tech, he raps his ass off. But half the time he isn't talking about shit on his records. Every single Kendrick song out there has substance, something missing from a lot of hip hop. Oh yeah, AND he doesn't brag about jewelry and cars which is a breath of fresh air.

Look back to my history, I said in 2009 that Kendrick was our best hope and that if more of the Westcoast took up his style we'd be in good shape. 3 years later TDE owns the Westcoast and Jay Rock (the TDE member who was afraid to step out of the box and still raps about shit like "bitch I'm thuggin") has by far the smallest buzz in the clique.


Tech N9ne does make bullshit songs, but he's still a much better rapper than Kendrick.......shit, i'd even put Hopsin over Kendrick.


Is he good? yes...one of the best nowadays? probably. but he is far from THEE best.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Sccit on September 22, 2012, 03:20:29 PM
He's without a shadow of a doubt the best on the west coast

Thurz? Blu? Fashawn? I like Kendrick but cmon now...

theres hella unknown rappers who are at least as good as Kendrick..

g-macc, t-nutty, sav sicc, bleezo, g-mo, shady blaze, c-dubb, hd, young droop, cos etc
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 22, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
But who is ever considered the BEST in their prime? Greatness is always generally judged in hindsight. When Eminem was doing his best work, you had just as many people scoffing at the idea of him being that "great". Pac and Big, kind of took on this iconic status following their murders. A lot of these artists who kind of fathered the industry have this advantage of being the ones who paved the way to where influence gets blurred with everything else. I mean, you're never going to judge the stuff you're hearing today and the stuff you grew up on with a level of equality. And no matter how fucking good a new artist is, he's always going to have deal with the credibility hurdles that come with being a "new artist".
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
there are female rappers better than kendrick. rapsody's one of them.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on September 22, 2012, 04:46:23 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

Dude, I can name guys in the WEST who are better than Masta ace, Ghostface RIGHT NOW. One is on my SIG.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Enigma on September 22, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
And Fash, Blu, and Thurz are simply not on Kendrick's level. Boy Meets World is a classic, but is it Section 80 or even OD for that matter? No way.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: aerroc on September 22, 2012, 05:37:55 PM
 Kendrick Lamar will take the west some where it hasn't been in a long time
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Fraxxx on September 23, 2012, 01:51:51 AM
Obviously not the best gangsta rapper but yes, the best at what he does right now.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 23, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
Kendrick Lamar will take the west some where it hasn't been in a long time
no where.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: vincer on September 23, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
all aboce comments are true--love him or hate him--eminem lyrically kills kendrick  not to mention--hottest rapper alive with one alum out?--kendrick is a breath of fresh air and good for westcoast..but no way greatest--ask again in 10 years
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Mistah Wilson on September 23, 2012, 01:21:18 PM
absolutely not. he's been out this long and i still cant figure out what sets him apart from any other mc

www.soundcloud.com/thabing this kid is dope!
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 23, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

Dude, I can name guys in the WEST who are better than Masta ace, Ghostface RIGHT NOW. One is on my SIG.

Really? I don't have sigs on but Masta Ace dropped one of the best albums I've heard this year.

And Fash, Blu, and Thurz are simply not on Kendrick's level. Boy Meets World is a classic, but is it Section 80 or even OD for that matter? No way.

imo Boy Meets World is better than Section 80. Below the Heavens is obviously better than Section 80, not just imo but from a world-wide perspective. Its considered an underground classic and Section 80 isn't. And LA Riot (which you haven't listened to and should) is better as well.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on September 24, 2012, 05:48:46 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

Dude, I can name guys in the WEST who are better than Masta ace, Ghostface RIGHT NOW. One is on my SIG.

Really? I don't have sigs on but Masta Ace dropped one of the best albums I've heard this year.

And Fash, Blu, and Thurz are simply not on Kendrick's level. Boy Meets World is a classic, but is it Section 80 or even OD for that matter? No way.


imo Boy Meets World is better than Section 80. Below the Heavens is obviously better than Section 80, not just imo but from a world-wide perspective. Its considered an underground classic and Section 80 isn't. And LA Riot (which you haven't listened to and should) is better as well.
I was thinking more on a lyrical standpoint. Masta Ace is always dope and so is Ghostface but guys like Blu, Locksmith, Crooked, Thurz are killing shit right now IMO.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: dnjp4life on September 25, 2012, 02:31:36 AM
As long as Eminem is still dropping verses then the answer is no.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: doggfather on September 25, 2012, 02:42:27 AM
As long as Eminem is still dropping verses then the answer is no.

or common for example, and the list goes on, goes on.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 25, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
As long as Eminem is still dropping verses then the answer is no.

or common for example, and the list goes on, goes on.
GKMC will be better than any Eminem release since MMLP, Im sure of it.....As for Common, go listen to some Kendrick songs like "Faith", or "The Heart, Part 2"....Those to me are "Common" type songs that Kendrick storytelling is on another level. 
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 25, 2012, 05:15:30 PM
As long as Eminem is still dropping verses then the answer is no.

or common for example, and the list goes on, goes on.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on September 26, 2012, 06:45:00 AM
dude is a breath of fresh air in hip hop, just what we need, I have a feeling album is gonna be amazing.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: PLANT on September 26, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
dude is a breath of fresh air in hip hop, just what we need, I have a feeling album is gonna be amazing.
Im anticipating a classic.  And you're right about the breath of fresh air. 
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 26, 2012, 07:48:20 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

Dude, I can name guys in the WEST who are better than Masta ace, Ghostface RIGHT NOW. One is on my SIG.

Really? I don't have sigs on but Masta Ace dropped one of the best albums I've heard this year.

And Fash, Blu, and Thurz are simply not on Kendrick's level. Boy Meets World is a classic, but is it Section 80 or even OD for that matter? No way.


imo Boy Meets World is better than Section 80. Below the Heavens is obviously better than Section 80, not just imo but from a world-wide perspective. Its considered an underground classic and Section 80 isn't. And LA Riot (which you haven't listened to and should) is better as well.
I was thinking more on a lyrical standpoint. Masta Ace is always dope and so is Ghostface but guys like Blu, Locksmith, Crooked, Thurz are killing shit right now IMO.

Ace dropped a concept album about his mother. I don't see Crooked I dropping anything as lyrical as that.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive?
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on September 27, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
All the time Nas, Rakim, Ghostface, Masta Ace etc. are still alive, then no he's not.

Dude, I can name guys in the WEST who are better than Masta ace, Ghostface RIGHT NOW. One is on my SIG.

Really? I don't have sigs on but Masta Ace dropped one of the best albums I've heard this year.

And Fash, Blu, and Thurz are simply not on Kendrick's level. Boy Meets World is a classic, but is it Section 80 or even OD for that matter? No way.


imo Boy Meets World is better than Section 80. Below the Heavens is obviously better than Section 80, not just imo but from a world-wide perspective. Its considered an underground classic and Section 80 isn't. And LA Riot (which you haven't listened to and should) is better as well.
I was thinking more on a lyrical standpoint. Masta Ace is always dope and so is Ghostface but guys like Blu, Locksmith, Crooked, Thurz are killing shit right now IMO.

Ace dropped a concept album about his mother. I don't see Crooked I dropping anything as lyrical as that.
Dropping a conceptual album does not mean you're more lyrical haha. A Concept is ONLY an idea or construction. This has nothing to do with lyricism.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Raje on September 28, 2012, 04:43:32 AM
Yes  8)
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: Quadruple OG on September 29, 2012, 05:40:25 PM
dude is a breath of fresh air in hip hop, just what we need, I have a feeling album is gonna be amazing.

On point with this one.
Title: Re: Is Kendrick Lamar the best rapper alive? (Right now)
Post by: BabyBird on October 04, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
can anybody give me a review of swimming pool?  >:(