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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on October 17, 2012, 01:24:41 PM
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It leaked this afternoon. Anyone that's listened to it, what you think?
1. "Sherane a.k.a. Master Splinter’s Daughter" Tha Bizness 4:33
2. "B!tch, Don’t Kill My Vibe" Sounwave 5:10
3. "Backseat Freestyle" Hit-Boy 3:32
4. "The Art of Peer Pressure" Tabu 5:24
5. "Money Trees" (featuring Jay Rock) DJ Dahi 6:26
6. "Poetic Justice" (featuring Drake) Scoop DeVille 5:00
7. "good kid" Pharrell Williams 3:34
8. "m.A.A.d city" (featuring MC Eiht) Sounwave, THC, Terrace Martin (add.) 5:50
9. "Swimming Pools (Drank)" (Extended Version) Kendrick Duckworth, Tyler Williams T-Minus 5:13
10. "Sing About Me / I’m Dying of Thirst" 'Sing About Me' produced by Skhye Hutch, Sounwave (add.)
'I’m Dying of Thirst' produced by Like of Pac Div 12:03
11. "Real" (featuring Anna Wise) Terrace Martin 7:23
12. "Compton" (featuring Dr. Dre)
Deluxe edition disc
No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
13. "The Recipe" (featuring Dr. Dre) Duckworth, Elijah Molina, Eric Cardona, Gabe D'Amico, Dev Gupta, Andrea Estella, Bryan Ujueta Scoop DeVille 5:52
14. "Black Boy Fly" Rahki, Dawaun Parker (co.) 4:38
15. "Now or Never" (featuring Mary J. Blige) Jack Splash 4:17
Total length:
83:03
iTunes Deluxe edition bonus tracks
No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
16. "Collect Calls" THC 3:57
17. "Swimming Pools (Drank)"
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It leaked this afternoon. Anyone that's listened to it, what you think?
I'm Listening it right now. The first two tracks are D.O.P.E
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Let me bump the rest ;D
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Tune with MC Eiht is the shit 8)
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Checking this now.
I still can't find the Deluxe CD version available to the UK ???
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Tune with MC Eiht is the shit 8)
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Maad city track is so dope!
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Someone please bless the PM.
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Someone please bless the PM.
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Someone please bless the PM.
www.bestbuy.com
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I have a pre-order on iTunes for the 22nd, but its gonna be hard to wait now....
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Replace the dre featured track with C&C ft. Gunplay and you have one of the best debut albums in years.
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'good kid' borrows the hook from Roy Ayers Ubiquity 'We Live In Brooklyn Baby'
http://www.youtube.com/v/D0VeQ0v204o
Nice album so far, really like 'Money Trees'
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i do not understand why Cartoons and cereal is not on this debut. it's so good to see a westcoast artist have such a great and huge buzz for a debut album. not seen since the game and even snoop. soooo many great new artists out there now. this new 2010+ decade will be great for us hip hop fans.(asap is next)
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Checking this now.
I still can't find the Deluxe CD version available to the UK ???
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Kid-M-A-A-D-Kendrick-Lamar/dp/B00913P6G0/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_1
accesshiphop or undergroundhiphop got it as well
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I'm not really feeling his voice. He is a really good rapper though.
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After the first spin i'm just shocked... I liked a lot of albums these past years but I think this record is just a masterpiece and can probably be a classic
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
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really cant wait to see what numbers he does..
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this album is really fucking good 8)
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some of the production and sounds of this album remind me of the way the early outkast albums sounded, especially ATLiens......Kendrick sounds great over all these beats.
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some of the production and sounds of this album remind me of the way the early outkast albums sounded, especially ATLiens......Kendrick sounds great over all these beats.
That's what I was thinking, especially with "Bitch don't kill my vibe"
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the "MAAD City" track is fucking insane!! Damn.
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After the first spin i'm just shocked... I liked a lot of albums these past years but I think this record is just a masterpiece and can probably be a classic
I'm holding off on calling that right away, but this album has definitely raised the bar for the West Coast. Definitely album of the year, it's a shame it's being released now because he missed the deadline for 2013 Grammy's by a couple weeks.
It's one of the very few albums that plays like a movie in the sense that the interludes and skits in the songs serve a purpose. In a few years, this could be a classic.
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bless the pm inbox... good lookn out.... WEST COAST 8)
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good album def - the best this year - dont know yet
and def much better than boring S80
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It's one of the very few albums that plays like a movie in the sense that the interludes and skits in the songs serve a purpose. In a few years, this could be a classic.
Yea I agree with the fact it plays like a movie, and the album definitely has that classic feel and vibe to it.
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album is classic to me! off the first listen, not a bad song on there.. Even the songs that I heard that leaked before, that I wasn't too impressed with, I feel them alot more now just because of the sequence on the album. The album is very well thought out. From the first song, to the last song, its a story w/ different chapters. alot of the stuff will go over peoples head, I still need to play it a few more times to get a few things. But even off surface value, off the first full listen.. its just great music.
That track M.A.A.D city w/ MC Eiht is crazy!!! Hardest "westcoast" song i've heard in a long long time! Took me back to the Ice Cube Death Certificate days!
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This is amazing. 8)
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just heard money trees... damn this shit is fuccn crazy...
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
"O.D." Overly Dedicated
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
Yea, but that was a mixtape, no?
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
Yea, but that was a mixtape, no?
might be classified as a mixtape, but its an album. its not hosted by any djs and the songs are quality. "Average Joe" and "The Heart Part 2" are two of my favorite Kendrick songs
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some of the production and sounds of this album remind me of the way the early outkast albums sounded, especially ATLiens......Kendrick sounds great over all these beats.
Dude, I swear I was thinking the same shit when I first heard the tracks. It literally reminded me of Outkast. :laugh:
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This is it guys! There is no denying that this dude put the West and Hip Hop in generall back on the map. Section80 was my favorite album of last year and I thought it will be very hard to top it. I'm really impressed how he gained the respect of almost every sort of "hip hop fan". It's not like he's only liked by backpackers or west coast fanatics. That's what makes him such a unique artist. Will bump it one more time from start to finish RIGHT NOW.
Congratulations Kendrick!
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"Sing About Me" just proves that Kendrick really is the best rapper out right now. Im sorry, but nobody is fucking with those verses.
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Only thing missing was a Black Hippy track. The sound is so clear and smooth. The miixing was flawless.
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Im really feeling the extended version of Swimming Pools also with the beat switch up at the end
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
he had more then that but dont expect the band wagon jumpers to know that when he really blows
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Yeah, with the Andre 3000 thing, I think Kendrick sounds too much like Andre. The first song I heard by him -- The Recipe -- I noticed it right away and posted it here http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=284260.msg2840257#msg2840257
I haven't listened to this yet, but this guy just isn't my cup of tea -- too derivative of Andre 3000.
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Yeah, with the Andre 3000 thing, I think Kendrick sounds too much like Andre. The first song I heard by him -- The Recipe -- I noticed it right away and posted it here http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=284260.msg2840257#msg2840257
I haven't listened to this yet, but this guy just isn't my cup of tea -- too derivative of Andre 3000.
do you like eminem? do you like big pun?
do you like jay z? do you like nas?
all these niggaz sound like the dudes before them so i dont understand that theory. 3 stacks been arouund long enough for another new rapper to have "SOME" of his style. or to have rubbed off some.
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Wow, I'm blown away. Little K.Dot did it!!!!
Incredible album. Well executed from top to bottom, production, lyrics, sequencing, concepts... Jay Rock and Drake killed it, too.
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dope album so far, really cant belive its this good. exceed my expectations and will def buy when it comes out.
gonna check out K.Dot tomorrow at the fox theater in pomona. peace out
will upload videos and reviews later.
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honestly if it slaps hard, im probably gonna buy it
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im probably gonna buy it
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m.A.A.d. City is amazing. 8)
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I will be buying a regular version and deluxe edition 8)
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whoa, this album is incredible, this is one of the best put together albums I have heard in a long time. I don't think I've heard a west album sound this good since the documentary...
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Solid album , well put together ... the weird voices here and there (especially at the debut of the album) and some tracks being too long are the only flaws for me ...
Good Kid and Maad City stand out for me
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stole this from the coli forum where "36 Chambers" posted this, but it is a pretty accurate breakdown:
1. Kendrick is about to meet up with this girl called Sherane. He takes his mother's van to meet her and he bumps into two guys. If this was a movie it would cut.
2. You then realize track 1 was a flash-forward, and this is the actual first track. At the end of this track, Kendrick's homies pick him up.
3. Self explanatory, he does a freestyle in the backseat whilst they're driving.
4. Once again, fairly self explanatory, they cruise around, smoking blunts, drinking and rob someone's house and almost get caught
5. They then talk about meeting up later at 10.30, cause Kendrick has to go meet up with the girl Sherane and **** her. This is somewhat a "filler" song for the album, and just gives a bit more insight about how they're all chasing money.
6. This is where we meet with track 1, Kendrick take's his mother's van and borrows it and meets up. Kendrick talks about bad *****es in this, and Sherane is definitely one of them. At the end of THIS song, we hear the same melody we heard in track 1 and it flashbacks in to the two guys asking where the **** Kendrick is from.
7. They beat the **** out of Kendrick and in this song he even says "they will never respect the good kid maad city".
8. Kendrick is mad as **** for being beat up, once again another "filler" track but at the end of this track, he meets up with his homies and they're helping him recover and give him some liquor drink since he's just been beaten the **** up.
9. Talks about the liquor abuse, following on from track 8 and then at the end of this song, they see the guys that ****ed up Kendrick and shoot at them. They shoot back and kill one of the homie's brother. (NOT kendrick's brother)
10. Flash forward to present day and it's no longer in the story. The first two verses are from the perspective of the friend (the one who's brother died) and how he feels about the whole situation. It's revealed that he wasn't happy with Section 80's Keyshia's Song since that was actually based on his sister. He talks further about it and says that his story isn't going to change **** on the streets. Throughout the whole song the chorus is "promise that you will sing about me". Towards the end of the verse (from the perspective of the friend) he says that he'll never fade away, and it is somewhat true, the memory will never fade away, but the friend actually passed away, HENCE why Kendrick didn't have him do the verse himself. From here we can see that Kendrick feels complete guilt for the death of his friend's brother and it seems that when he did a song about his friend's sister (keyshia) it didn't help the situation. However, he still was friends with Kendrick and asked Kendrick to promise to tell the story of his brother.
11. We cut back to the story and the boys wanna go and kill the guys that shot Kendrick's friend's brother, they are confronted by a lady of the church who convinces them. Kendrick then receives a phone call from his mother about him taking it seriously and going to the studio since he got a phone call about it.
12. I assume this is an epilogue of Kendrick and how he progressed and made it out of Compton to get studio time with Dr. Dre.
Last point is kind of a reach but overall I think this is the narrative of the album
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Good Kid is my favorite track so far, people seem to be sleeping on that one...
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Congratulations to motherfucking KENDRICK LAMAR. 8) 8) 8)
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havent peeped it yet, but why are peeps callin it his debut when he came out with "Section 80" ... it may be his major debut, but it aint his debut album.
and he had another album before that also.
Yea, but that was a mixtape, no?
might be classified as a mixtape, but its an album. its not hosted by any djs and the songs are quality. "Average Joe" and "The Heart Part 2" are two of my favorite Kendrick songs
it wasn't all original beats so you can't take it as an album even though it is for sale on itunes
haven't heard the album yet, I will probably wait for my physical copy
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I wasn't planning on listening to this, but reading this thread made me really curious to see what this is all about.
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Fantastic ALBUM! A great listen from the 1 track to the last. Really sounds like a album and not just a random collection of songs.
Agree with the early Outkast sound someone mentioned 8)
Will most def buy this.
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Great album, worth having in the collection...and yeah...track MAAD City, MOTHERFUCKER :o :o :o
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Classic album, nothing more to say !
8) 8) 8) 8)
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this going down as CLASSIC
dope ass album
didnt disappoint me
that mc eiht track was more like two songs
i liked the mc eiht part tho
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i thought it might be really good, but its a masterpiece
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It's cool that everyone seems to be loving this, because that rarely seems to happen nowadays...
But I just wish I loved it too, LOL
Not really feeling any of the beats (seem to be mostly drum machine/keyboard type beats?),
don't really like dude's voice... he can rap fast, but I heard fast rapping for decades now...
Having said that, I hope he does do well, and opens the door for more diversity in the mainstream...
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Im still stuck on track 08...:) its just destroying my speakers 8)
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GOOD SHIT I MUST ADMIT :)
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Still dont know what I feel about this record.
BUT... It really does feel like a well structured ALBUM!
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It's ridiculous that this is being touted as a classic when it hasn't even been released yet. I think some of you are getting a little too excited.
I haven't previewed the album yet but I will pick up my copy next week and drop an opinion then.
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any1 have a link of that Collect Calls song?
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angry's post is hilarious...this one had me dying.. "this kid kendrick sounds like a foreign nigga getting impatient in line at the DMV!!!!!!!!!!!!"
havent downloaded it, gonna wait til monday and pick it up..it sounds like a cool album from the leaks and snippets...im no die hard fan yet though...i thought section 80 was queer as fuck..but the new shit and the featurings he been doing sound nice..
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this is a movie, not an album
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Till im listen to this im waiting for my cd 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8), LOOK FUCKIN CROOKED I HOW SOMEONE DROPS HIS DEBUT ALBUM I DON´T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MAJOR OR INDIE!
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cool stuff love it, kinda tripy 8)
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wowow, havent past the first 6 songs yet but this outshines everything i have heard in a loong time!
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I'm very proud of this forum for supporting this sound despite it's lack of traditional West Coast feel. Glad to see you see it's greatness.
Hopefully he sells a solid 250K.
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Album doesn't reallly sound West but I'm digging it more then when I first heard the snippets. Kendrick spit some sick shit on some tracks. Other tracks were a bit strange. I thought the album could have been better but its a very good album still. Not sure about CLASSIC but its tight. Its Original to Kendrick and I respect that.
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after listening to this album i have to say money trees n maad city are the sickest tracks on here... money trees to me is fuccn the craziest shit i heard in a minute...
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All hail kendrick, resurrector of albums with actual concept :) amazing...
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KENDRICK LAMAR IS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i see gay dre distancing himself from rap FOREVER after this kid under performs on interscope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
said it from day 1....
wack voice...
annoying spaz flows...
GAY tranquil... pussy beats...
boring songs... boring artist...
and LOL @ his content
lets listen to a gay teenager rap about the 80s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL @ a gay teenager rapping about ronald reagan in 2012
all his love joints are from the 3rd perspective...
gay kid analyzing hetero relations in his music.... its like listening to a woman analyze a boxing match....
and he sounds like hes waiting for his immigration papers when he raps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theres a gay alien lisp...
i think dre sees himself in kendrick...
gay kid from compton who used music to ESCAPE...
so dre and the machine bought this kid HYPE and hes gonna flop anyway...
interscope cant tell the temperature and have NO IDEA what year it is or how to run a functional label...
they still got 40 something year old eminem playing dress up for his "goofy" singles like TRL is gonna play it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this kid kendrick sounds like a foreign nigga getting impatient in line at the DMV!!!!!!!!!!!!
dre has done everything he possibly could to DESTROY his legacy...
HE LOST ALL HIS FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and you cant even say "dre getting money doe" cuz its ALL jimmys!!!!!!!!!!!
dre lives in a nice house... has nice things.. but if he ever crosses uncle jimmy hes DONE!!!!!!!!!!
LOL @ gay ass dre hiding behind jimmy iovine after death row had him running scared and jimmy iovine still DIRECTLY dealing with the boogie man suge knight with gay dre hiding under the desk
dre went from being a leader of the culture...
to a gay shut in wax face shooting synthetic testosterone in a private gym!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOBODY cares about detox...
he LOST every fan he made in his 20+ year career...
hes got his little foreman grill hustle going but his product is JUNK and gets no RESPECT....
now hes attached himself to a gay rapper so he can win in a gay market...
unfortunately for him the kid isnt a STAR...
i cant wait for this record to come out and FLOP...
kendrick lamar is the fag rapper kids point to when you say hip hop is dead...
the fact you pointed to a gay nerd from compton to save rap is proof its DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets listen to a gay teenager rap about babies in a trash can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bishop lamont must wanna kill dre...
bishop coulda been kendrick if he allowed the initiation process take place... BLOW OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bishop was basically signed to work out with dre, and get big gay dre brolic so he can get punched in the fucking head by a crackheads at the VIBE awards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dre is the biggest fraud in music..
hes the wizard of oz...
a scared little man behind a curtain of lies...
the godfather of gangsta rap is a shut in pussy product pitchman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is his last attempt at throwing his name on something he had nothing to do with in the MUSIC business...
welcome to 2012
go back to your stuck in the 90s music then
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I'm very proud of this forum for supporting this sound despite it's lack of traditional West Coast feel. Glad to see you see it's greatness.
Hopefully he sells a solid 250K.
hopefully every 1 who says they like the album buys it 2 this is the guy who really put the west back out there
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I thought the album could have been better but its a very good album still. Not sure about CLASSIC but its tight. Its Original to Kendrick and I respect that. The beat could have been better with dre involved . somewhere i think musically section 80 is better
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This is an interpretation by a dude at the kanyeForum, a good read! The album can be interpret in many ways. Just amazing.
Good Kid, M.A.A.D City: A Short Film by Kendrick Lamar
Setting: Compton
Characters:
Kendrick Lamar (present Kendrick)
K.Dot (young Kendrick)
Sherane
Kendrick's Mother
Kendrick's Father
Dave
Dave's brother
Keisha's sister
Demetrius (Sherane's favourite cousin)
The Two Brothers (Sherane's younger brothers)
Granny (Sherane's Granny who she lives with)
Sherane's Mother (a crack addict)
Uncle Tony (Kendrick's Uncle who was killed)
Joey (either childhood friend of Kendrick or cousin)
L, Boog, Yaya, Lucky (friends/family members of Kendrick when he was 9)
Unknown Woman (who gets the boys to prayer)
The Story:
Sherane aka Master Splinter's Daughter
The story opens as a flash-forward. K.Dot has known Sherane for a number of months by this point. He met her at a party where they flirted and exchanged numbers. They kept in contact with each other over the summer and got to know each other pretty well, he talks about her family's history of gang-banging that made him wary but didn't stop him from hooking up with her.
At the end of this song K.Dot is driving to Sherane's house in his Mother's van, he has sex on the brain. But when he turns up Sherane is outside waiting with two dudes in black hoodies (possibly her two younger brothers, or her cousins, one of which could be Demetrius).
Skit #1 - as K.Dot pulls up at Sherane's house his Mother tries to call him but instead gets his voice-mail. We learn from his Mother that K.Dot said he was borrowing her van for just 15 minutes. She warns him not to mess with “them hoodrats” especially “Sherane”.
****, Don't Kill My Vibe
The content of this song doesn't actually follow the Sherane narrative. It is a song told from the perspective of Kendrick Lamar the rapper and how as he gradually gets more recognition as an artist he sees people around him changing, "I can feel the new people around me just want to be famous." He also talks about trying to maintain his credibility while becoming a more mainstream artist, "I'm trying to keep it alive and not compromise the feeling we love/You trying to keep it deprived and only co-sign what radio does."
Skit #2 – The narrative begins. K.Dot's homies pick him up in their white Toyota with a pack of blacks and a beat CD.
Backseat Freestyle
The most self-explantory song on the album. Young K.Dot cruising around town with his homies, getting high and dropping freestyles in the backseat. This is a life is good moment, living free, no troubles. The calm before the storm.
The Art of Peer Pressure
The narrative begins to build. The pressures of hanging with the homies becomes more than simply having a laugh and freestyling. The usually drug free and sober K.Dot is brought in to a world of drinking, smoking, and violence when with “the homies”. Cruising around in a white Toyota, hitting up girls, jumping dudes wearing rival colours, and bragging about what they just did.
The stakes are upped when K.Dot and his homies rob a house that they had been stalking for two months. Cops pursue them but lose them.
Skit #3 - The homies talk about dropping K.Dot off back at home, so he can take his Mother's van and go hit up Sherane – and then they can all meet back up later on the block.
Money Trees
K.Dot recaps the story so far.
He talks about robbing the house, "Home invasion was persuasive/From 9 to 5 I know its vacant."
He mentions ****ing Sherane and bragging about it to his homies, "I ****ed Sherane then went to tell my bros."
He references Backseat Freestyle when he talks about rhyming to beats, "Parked the car and then we started rhyming, ya bish/The only thing we had to free our mind."
And he talks about jumping dudes who looked like they had more money than them, "Then freeze that verse when we see dollar signs/You looking like an easy come up ya bish/A silver spoon I know you come from ya bish."
The line in the chorus "Everybody gon' respect the shooter/But the one in front of the gun lives forever." is deeply important, not just as a life motto, but in regards to the events that later take place in this story regarding Dave and his brother. It's also a reference to Kendrick's Uncle Tony, who was shot and killed at Louie's Burgers; this event is a snap back to reality from the "dreams of living life like rappers do."
Skit #4– K.Dot's Mother leaves another voice-mail. She wants her car back.
Poetic Justice
K.Dot has been dropped off back at home by his homies and is about to go see Sherane. He's probably driving on the way there in his Mother's van. He talks about her and their relationship so far - it appears they may have had some arguments, he talks about her meeting up with her girlfriends to curse him, and going out partying rather than talking with him.
Skit #5 – this is when we catch up with Sherane aka Master Splinter's Daughter. It starts where Sherane ended, and you can tell because that haunting female vocal (used in the beat to Sherane) comes back in this skit. The two dudes with Sherane approach K.Dot and ask him where he and his family are from (trying to work out what gang he is affiliated with). They force K.Dot out of the van and jump him.
Good Kid
This really sets off the theme of the second half of the album and it is all to do with - realisation.
K.Dot talks about getting jumped, "For the record I recognize that I'm easy prey/I got ate alive yesterday."
He discusses the negative effects of gang-culture, and being unable to escape the pressure of people wanting to know what gang he represents, "But what am I supposed to do/When the topic is red or blue/And you understand that I ain't/But know I'm accustomed to." Red or Blue obviously refers to the LA gangs of Bloods and Crips.
The red and the blue in the second verse become police sirens. K.Dot talks about getting no sympathy from the cops because they stereotype him as a gang-banger, making him lift up his shirt in order to look for a gang affiliated tattoo, "I heard them chatter: "He's probably young but I know that he's down"/Step on his neck as hard as your bullet proof vest."
K.Dot is trapped in a violent culture and can't get a reprieve from the gangs or the police.
M.A.A.D City
More self-awareness and realisation of the corrupt city that K.Dot lives in.
K.Dot's recent beat-down brings back early memories of similar situations, witnessing someone with their brains blown out at a burger stand back when he was 9 (I'm not sure if he is talking about his Uncle Tony again, or someone else), he thinks he knows the person who did it but he censors his name. He also talks about how his cousin was killed back in 94.
He talks about his Father telling him to get a job but he got fired after his friends pressured him in to staging a robbery. He gives his reason for why he doesn't smoke when he tells a story of smoking marijuana laced with cocaine and "foaming at the mouth."
In the final verse he tries to let the good shine through and offer respite for the youth and how they don't have to succumb to the temptations and pressures of the street. He hopes that his experience and intelligence can do good for the youth living in similar situations. "Compton, USA Made me an Angel on Angel Dust."
Skit #6 – K.Dot's homies meet back up with him later as planned. They try to boost him back up after his beat-down, and they offer him alcohol to take his mind off it.
Swimming Pools
An anti-alcohol song, that again plays in to the second half of the album's realisation about the vices previously holding Kendrick back. Kedrick talks about growing up around alcohol both within his family and group of friends.
Skit #7 – this is the big impact moment of the narrative. The plan is to take revenge on the dudes that jumped K.Dot. One of K.Dot's homies (possibly Dave) talks about maybe dropping K.Dot back off at home, but this idea is turned down, and K.Dot stays. The homies see the dudes that jumped K.Dot and a shoot-out begins. During the battle K.Dot's friend Dave gets shot. The dudes that shot Dave drive off and K.Dot is left holding Dave as he dies in his arms.
Sing About Me
Verse 1 – from the perspective of Dave's brother. He says the blood is on Kendrick's hands because the whole situation happened out of revenge for something that happened to Kendrick. But he says he appreciates that Kendrick was there for his brother and held him while he was dying. Dave's brother wonders if he will ever discover a passion like Kendrick to get him out of the hood – he says he hopes Kendrick will remember him and sing about him when he makes it big, and if he dies before the album drops...pop, pop, pop – he gets killed.
Verse 2 – from the perspective of Keisha's sister. She is mad at Kendrick for putting her sister on blast (on Section 80) without even knowing her properly. She talks about how she is living the same life as her sister, as a prostitute, and is proud of her living and what she does. She claims not to be just another woman lost in the system. She says her sister died in vein. Unlike Dave's brother she doesn't want to be sang about on the album. She feels great and says she'll never fade away....but then she does, her vocals slowly fade out in to obscurity...perhaps she died or just became another nameless "hoodrat".
Verse 3 – from Kendrick's perspective. Looking in the mirror. His fear of death. He speaks to Dave's brother, agreeing that Dave was like a brother to him. He speaks to Keisha's sister saying that Keisha's story was the one that drove him to write something that powerful and real – he didn't mean to offend. He talks of how music saved him and pulled him away from the drugs, money and guns.
Skit #8 – K.Dot's homies talking after Dave has been killed. Some of them want to go back and get revenge. K.Dot finally snaps and says he is tired of this ****.
I'm Dying of Thirst
Kendrick talks about been tired of running and gunning people down. It's just a circle of death. The perpetual struggle.
Skit #9 –(EDITED) K.Dot is still angry and upset over Dave's death. An unknown woman (perhaps a passer-by/shop-keeper) approaches the boys, she sees that one of them has a gun “That better not be what I think it is.” She tells them that they are dying of thirst and that they need to take a new path and let Jesus in to their lives. She makes them prayer. From here on K.Dot begins to live a new life as Kendrick Lamar.
Real
This is Kendrick disregarding the street life and turning his back on gang-banging, drugs, alcohol, violence etc. The different meanings of being “real”. Are you real because you represent your hood and shoot people? Are you real because you try to escape that life and make something of yourself?
Verse 1 – about certain girls (but could be Sherane). She loves handbags, French Tip, bank slips. But what love got to do with it when you don't love yourself?
Verse 2 – about certain homies (but could be Dave's brother). He loves fast cars, fast women, beef, streets, ducking police, hood-life. But what love got to do with it when you don't love yourself?
Verse 3 – about Kendrick. He explains the previous two verses - “I love first verse cos your the girl I attract.” and “I love second verse cos your the homie that packed burner.” “I love what the both of you have to offer.”
He wonders if he should hate her for what happened or should he hate his homies for convincing him to seek revenge. Or should he hate the fact that none of that **** makes him real.
Skit #10 – voice-mail from his Father. He tells Kendrick not to make the same mistakes he did, and that none of this stuff makes him real and that he should get out and make something of himself. His Mother tells him that Top Dawg called and wants him in the studio – she tells him to take his music career seriously – that it is his chance to get out and tell his story to the kids of Compton so that they have hope. This is technically the end of the story in a narrative sense - the tape is ejected and then rewound.
Compton
The narrative is over. This song is after Kendrick has made it and is now giving back just like his Mother told him too. It's a positive outlook of a city that is often full of darkness and violence.
Skit #11 - the narrative starts over again when K.Dot borrows his Mother's van.
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"Sing About Me" just proves that Kendrick really is the best rapper out right now. Im sorry, but nobody is fucking with those verses.
agreed. gorgeous song.... the storytelling is just on another level on that record.
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Right, I decided to give this a listen. It sounds better than it did when I listened to the snippets. Its' a very cohesive album, and i mean very cohesive. Alot of of the beats are very similar and get boring. Standout tracks are Bitch, Dant Kill My Vibe, Backstreet Freestyle (hate the hook though) Money Trees and M.A.D.D. City. Infact, M.A.D.D. City is extremely dope. Compton would of been dope without the irritating hook. Classic this is not going to be. I give it a 3/5.
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This shit is a cure for insomnia ...Boring as fuck....What the hell did I just listen to ? This is barely even rap .. Not even close to west coast bangin' shit that shouldbe released under Dr Dre's label..This is the type of shit that we don't neeed. :( :( :(
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Who the fuck is DJ Dahi? That ''Money Tree'' instrumental is DOPE
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Who the fuck is DJ Dahi? That ''Money Tree'' instrumental is DOPE
He produced "My type of party" (Dom Kennedy) and a couple of others.
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Who the fuck is DJ Dahi? That ''Money Tree'' instrumental is DOPE
He produced "My type of party" (Dom Kennedy) and a couple of others.
Wowww shit is flames ty I been sleepin'. I been looking for a clams casino type of producer for a while this dude got a nice sound.
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Xzibit gave us exactly what we been feindin' for and u all didnt buy his shit ..U prolly gonna support this border line bullshit.... Barely even rap let alone west coast shit..Too much singing also ..Drake-type shit..
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Xzibit gave us exactly what we been feindin' for and u all didnt buy his shit ..U prolly gonna support this border line bullshit.... Barely even rap let alone west coast shit..Too much singing also ..Drake-type shit..
Hater, just leave the thread if you don't like the album, we got it.
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Wow this album is flawless!! The fact K Dot kept the narrative together and also push a message without sounding preachy is dope. You can hear Dres touch throughout the album, and sonically this is on another level to S80. Kendrick did it, round of applause.
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Drake-type shit..
:nawty:
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album is very cohesive indeed. not really my cup of tea...not keen on kendrick's vocals and singing, but the production is pretty flawless and it works conceptually. certainly get that dreamy outkast vibe from a lot of it.
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If u like this shit then u are a Drake fan and u squat when u piss .
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Right, I decided to give this a listen. It sounds better than it did when I listened to the snippets. Its' a very cohesive album, and i mean very cohesive. Alot of of the beats are very similar and get boring. Standout tracks are Bitch, Dant Kill My Vibe, Backstreet Freestyle (hate the hook though) Money Trees and M.A.D.D. City. Infact, M.A.D.D. City is extremely dope. Compton would of been dope without the irritating hook. Classic this is not going to be. I give it a 3/5.
Kendrick RAPES the living shit out of M.A.D.D. City!
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The whole album been on repeat for a good time now.
I love that its not that typical westcoast sound, but rather new and creative.
This is the work of an artist who is a product of his own thoughts and ideas, not just another rapper who does what everybody expect him to do and whats been done thousand times over.
The storyline is dope thru the whole album and the production is flawless.
Stand out songs for me is "Money Trees", "m.A.A.d city", "the art of peer pressure", "sing about me", but the whole album biggest strength is that its an ALBUM.
Easy the album of the year for me, so far!
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Damn y'all are really hyping this up for me might just go buy it instead and hear it full blast on the head phones.. we'll see
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Damn y'all are really hyping this up for me might just go buy it instead and hear it full blast on the head phones.. we'll see
I played it once and liked it enough to buy the deluxe cd to bump on my system. I'm not going crazy for the album yet but I wanna wanna hear how it knocks for real. Kendrick can have my money for the cd he def earnt it with this one
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I really enjoy this album man...i got mine early courtesy of ebay cause stores aint dropping it until the 26th out here and i aint really with that itunes shit cause i need hard copies....the only negative shit i can say is that some a the dope tracks that switch beat should a been left like 'The Art Of Peer Pressure' opening beat is dope as fuck...a whole track with that beat woulda been nutz with a dope West Coast feature would of made it that just better....im still goin a 5/5 though....
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The whole album been on repeat for a good time now.
I love that its not that typical westcoast sound, but rather new and creative.
Easy the album of the year for me, so far!
AGREE 8) its a new era of music right now and i rather listen to this shit than that South Club shit all the damn same time 90% of these west coast cats trying to drop today... NO DISS to the South but the West needed its own sound again and not copied from the South like its been for a few years after the G-Funk era faded out slowly.
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Rap music must be such a boring music these days if half of the forum says this album is a classic.
I've listened to this album twice. Well... quite nice but i don't want to get back to it anymore simply because i got bored after two spins...
Just like the other guy said - it's a good cure for insomnia. The album got the same mood from the beginning to an end - and it's a boring mood. Whoever produced this shit he have no idea how to play with the mood.
i'd rather go back to The Q4, Arts The Beatdoctor or Ohmega Watts again...
peace
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So by far album of the year.
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So by far album of the year.
Easily, every forum I've seen the majority are fucking with it, hopefully he can sell 200+ next week.
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Amazon sent it to me early for some reason. Was a cool surprise in the mail box today when I seen this in there. Anyway this is a good ass album! Best I heard in awhile. I'm glad somebody actually took to time to make a cohesive album & not just a collection of songs. I don't have a favorite song, I like the whole shit.
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So by far album of the year.
No better than Life Is Good
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have anyone some info on the Target Deluxe edition with 2 New Bonus Tracks on it , is it the final Deluxe Album on Amazon?
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just now discovered how dope black boy fly is
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I picked up my copy today just gave it a listen (deluxe edition).
Fucking great album! Really enjoyed it. Very well produced and mixed, mastered. The album flows together really well and i thought there was only really 1 or two weaker tracks.
Kendrick switches up his flow really well. The only thing that i didn't really like is how on a couple tracks he changes his voice to sound kinda computerized, or like an alien or chip monk or something? To me that sounded kinda stupid.
All the negativity about it all sounding the same i disagree? The negativity about the singing? that had me worried cos i hate RnB for the most part and when a "hip hop" album has too much singing but there wasnt even that much and to me it fit in and sounds really good.
The only one that sounds kinda gay is the very last track on disc two(bonus track). And my god how good would've Nate Dogg sounded on "compton"!?
Really pleased with the album, instant appeal. Most albums i get they need to grow but this sounds good right away. Hopefully it would be one of those weird occasions where it sounds worse every listen^^;
Only listened on PC through a gaming head set, cant wait to hear it loud as fuck through a good system or im my car. Listened to it sober also i think this album would be incredible to drink to or hear drunk.
Really chill album.
Oh and i dont understand the DR Dre criticism?? yes its disappointing he didnt produce but i think he sounds really good on the mic on this!! I dont see the problem?
Cant say if its classic or not after one listen.
EDIT: oh and i like it way more than section 80.
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I've never cared much for Kendrick Lamar's music. To me he's your regular backpack rapper. Now I've listened to this a few times now... The album is a mix between Outkast and your regular backpack rapper's album. The songs with Dr. Dre stand out to me. After reading the replies in this thread I expected an amazing album, but I think it's good at best... It's probably not my cup of tea and the skits are annoying.
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Collect calls
http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/57008477/file.html
3 bonus tracks left to be heard ( Recipe and Swimming pools remix both feat B Hippy and " county building blues")
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album has grown on me...still in comparison to Game's Documentary even though Kendrick is miles ahead in terms of lyricism that album is clearly more enjoyable thanks to the production
on a side note its #2 on Itunes behind Taylor Swift so its a good look for Kendrick so far
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Just heard the cd, i think it´s a nice try, but section 80 is better 100% !!!!
need to listen more.
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Collect calls
http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/57008477/file.html
3 bonus tracks left to be heard ( Recipe and Swimming pools remix both feat B Hippy and " county building blues")
All three have been leaked
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Collect calls
http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/57008477/file.html
3 bonus tracks left to be heard ( Recipe and Swimming pools remix both feat B Hippy and " county building blues")
All three have been leaked
PM please?
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Collect calls
http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/57008477/file.html
3 bonus tracks left to be heard ( Recipe and Swimming pools remix both feat B Hippy and " county building blues")
All three have been leaked
PM please?
pm please?
edit: Got'em. Missing just "The Recipe (rmx)". But i never heard about that one
edit: Ok i got them all.
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collect call is wack.. that voice ...
this album will be considered classic like 10 years later
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Black Hippy "Swimming Pools Remix"
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/10/22/kendrick-lamar-swimming-pools-black-hippy-rmx-f-jay-rock-ab-soul-schoolboy-q/
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So by far album of the year.
No better than Life Is Good
That's second.
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So by far album of the year.
No better than Life Is Good
That's second.
Actually third to Lupe.
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Bonus tracks
http://itsalwaysnew.com/2012/10/22/kendrick-lamar-county-building-blues-x-the-recipe-black-hippy-remix-x-swimming-pools-black-hippy-remix/
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amazing album, buying my copy tomorrow 8)
that song with MC Eiht is just :o
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amazing album, buying my copy tomorrow 8)
that song with MC Eiht is just :o
the 2nd half of that song is a Dre production....guaranteed.
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
agreed...picked mine up this morning, really good album conceptually, but nowhere near a "masterpiece" like too many on this board only are hyping it to be..
its the dre association...half these cats wouldve never even listened to this if it wasnt for dres/aftermath affiliation with this record...if a piece of shit had dres name on it, i bet it gets labeled a masterpiece by at least a few people..
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
agreed...picked mine up this morning, really good album conceptually, but nowhere near a "masterpiece" like too many on this board only are hyping it to be..
its the dre association...half these cats wouldve never even listened to this if it wasnt for dres/aftermath affiliation with this record...if a piece of shit had dres name on it, i bet it gets labeled a masterpiece by at least a few people..
Actually, the feedback on dubcc is a lot worse than on other outlets and reviews, where it is being called this generation's Illmatic and an instant classic. The feedback on dubcc hasn't been as extreme.
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
agreed...picked mine up this morning, really good album conceptually, but nowhere near a "masterpiece" like too many on this board only are hyping it to be..
its the dre association...half these cats wouldve never even listened to this if it wasnt for dres/aftermath affiliation with this record...if a piece of shit had dres name on it, i bet it gets labeled a masterpiece by at least a few people..
Actually, the feedback on dubcc is a lot worse than on other outlets and reviews, where it is being called this generation's Illmatic and an instant classic. The feedback on dubcc hasn't been as extreme.
my bad...guess i aint on those boards haha...
anyways with that being said, after a few days of reading all the posts, i finally bought it and it exceeded my expectations..a really good album..i just dont believe in calling something a masterpiece after a few days...weeks...months even...
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
agreed...picked mine up this morning, really good album conceptually, but nowhere near a "masterpiece" like too many on this board only are hyping it to be..
its the dre association...half these cats wouldve never even listened to this if it wasnt for dres/aftermath affiliation with this record...if a piece of shit had dres name on it, i bet it gets labeled a masterpiece by at least a few people..
Actually, the feedback on dubcc is a lot worse than on other outlets and reviews, where it is being called this generation's Illmatic and an instant classic. The feedback on dubcc hasn't been as extreme.
The irony in all this is while critics and the majority of the online hip-hop world recognizes how great this album, the one site dedicated to West Coast Rap is downplaying the accomplishments of a West Coast artist releasing one of the best hip-hop albums in recent history.
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For the record, I like Kendrick a lot. I think he is one of the best rappers out now. This album was not that great though. It may have been cool conceptually, but Kid Cudi, and others have done this shit years earlier.
And for one other thing, Kendrick is talked about as being super lyrical, which he can be, but really only compared to the average west coast rapper. It the big picture, there are many more lyrical rappers. I think he does a good job with his subjects, but he gets compared to below average rappers way too much.
Bottom line is he put out some heat. Album bangs but ain't close to a masterpiece.
People on here seem to only want to define shit in the extreme.
agreed...picked mine up this morning, really good album conceptually, but nowhere near a "masterpiece" like too many on this board only are hyping it to be..
its the dre association...half these cats wouldve never even listened to this if it wasnt for dres/aftermath affiliation with this record...if a piece of shit had dres name on it, i bet it gets labeled a masterpiece by at least a few people..
Actually, the feedback on dubcc is a lot worse than on other outlets and reviews, where it is being called this generation's Illmatic and an instant classic. The feedback on dubcc hasn't been as extreme.
The irony in all this is while critics and the majority of the online hip-hop world recognizes how great this album, the one site dedicated to West Coast Rap is downplaying the accomplishments of a West Coast artist releasing one of the best hip-hop albums in recent history.
go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
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kendrick lamar and gkmc are trending on twitter worldwide just reading through a few tweets from alot of major artists and industry people are talking big about this album
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yeah it's trending worlwide, out here i got friends and contacts who don't know shit about rap posting videos of kendrick on facebook. dude is hype.
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they are paying to put him out there, it helps.
album is still sounding good, money trees 8)
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they are paying to put him out there, it helps.
album is still sounding good, money trees 8)
money trees is the shiiiiit 8)
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
wtf u talkin about? ol' sensitive ass mufucka. i was replyin 2 his question, my man
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MONEY TREES best track on the album... 8)
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shit even Pharrell came correct on the production
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copped the target deluxe edition and i must say its not bad. not the classic ppl are saying it is. some of the production isn't cutting for me. expected more. love the track with MC EIHT. solid album. dope lyrics,flow,content. i solid album. 4 outta 5 for now.
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
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After the first spin, it's a good effort from K. Dot. The track that stands out the most so far is maad city. Poetic Justice is a nice little track. Not feeling the Mary J bonus track. I feel like Section 80 is leaps ahead of this cd. And I kind of expected that after finding out he would be signing to Aftermath.
I wish Ab-Soul, Q, and Punch were on this cd and not just on it as a bonus cut. "Compton" seems like it was just thrown in there for the Dre factor. "Sing About Me.." should have closed out this cd.
A good look for the young kid from Compton.
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Not really fuckin' much with hip-hop at the moment, but this is a quality release. Favourites are Good Kid and the intro track. I'm amazed how coherent the album sounds given how many producers are involved.
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The irony in all this is while critics and the majority of the online hip-hop world recognizes how great this album, the one site dedicated to West Coast Rap is downplaying the accomplishments of a West Coast artist releasing one of the best hip-hop albums in recent history.
i agree fully...and while i would hesitate to call it a classic, i can say that tracks like 'sing about me', 'black boy fly' and especially 'art of peer pressure' are fantastic...i haven't related to a track like 'art of...' in a while....I'm a cool decade older than this dude and his narrative on this track took me back haha....when you can cross a generation gap like that, backwards, that's saying something...
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checkin right now!
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
tell us how u really feel, cham
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Not sounding QUITE as good giving it a second listen, but i think thats because iam listening to it through my monitor speakers cos my boom box died on me a few days ago :'( and doing shit so cant wear head phones.
The skits stand out more now though, could've done without those, kinda like the Brotha lynch albums.
My heads still noddin though 8)
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Thought this was supposed to have some crazy Dre track with Lady Gaga, originally from DETOX. What happened?
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kendrick is so overrated
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i wish he didnt have no deluxe version and shit to me it kind of ruins the concept of the album. thats what ruins classic albums IMO. but i must say i was a tad bit disappointed with the mc eiht track. i was expecting mc eiht to come hard with some witty shit but nope same old mc eiht. but the story throughout is fucking great tho.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
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i wish he didnt have no deluxe version and shit to me it kind of ruins the concept of the album. thats what ruins classic albums IMO. but i must say i was a tad bit disappointed with the mc eiht track. i was expecting mc eiht to come hard with some witty shit but nope same old mc eiht. but the story throughout is fucking great tho.
well if u buy the deluxe version of the CD it separates the regular album 12 tracks from the 3 bonus tracks.. 2 different cd's so it doesnt ruin the concept of the album.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
i wish he didnt have no deluxe version and shit to me it kind of ruins the concept of the album. thats what ruins classic albums IMO. but i must say i was a tad bit disappointed with the mc eiht track. i was expecting mc eiht to come hard with some witty shit but nope same old mc eiht. but the story throughout is fucking great tho.
The MC Eiht track was my favorite on the cd. Eiht killed that beat.
Thought this was supposed to have some crazy Dre track with Lady Gaga, originally from DETOX. What happened?
Taken off the cd. Gaga said she didn't agree with the direction the song was being taken in by the guys producing it, even though she was just featuring on it.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
i wish he didnt have no deluxe version and shit to me it kind of ruins the concept of the album. thats what ruins classic albums IMO. but i must say i was a tad bit disappointed with the mc eiht track. i was expecting mc eiht to come hard with some witty shit but nope same old mc eiht. but the story throughout is fucking great tho.
The MC Eiht track was my favorite on the cd. Eiht killed that beat.
Thought this was supposed to have some crazy Dre track with Lady Gaga, originally from DETOX. What happened?
Taken off the cd. Gaga said she didn't agree with the direction the song was being taken in by the guys producing it, even though she was just featuring on it.
i was more referring to him being a part of the concept of the story he had going on. i mean the song isnt bad but i dont think it is the best on the album. not one of the better ones IMO. i love the money tree song and bitch dont kill my vibe at this point. but i havent finished listening to the album i was in my zone when i was.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
not the content, the sound of the music. theres a difference.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
how many times u guna say the same stupid ass shit?
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
how many times u guna say the same stupid ass shit?
Same question to you.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
how many times u guna say the same stupid ass shit?
Said it once. Why are you so mad at people praising a West Coast Artist for making a critically acclaimed and most likely great selling album (projected to sell over 200k first week)?
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
They are upset because of the lack of Zapp & Gap Band samples that have been used time and time again.
how many times u guna say the same stupid ass shit?
Said it once. Why are you so mad at people praising a West Coast Artist for making a critically acclaimed and most likely great selling album (projected to sell over 200k first week)?
who said i'm mad? just like u have ur opinions, i have mine....seems to me like the kendrick fanatics are the ones getting mad at any1 not hailing this a masterpiece.
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who said i'm mad? just like u have ur opinions, i have mine....seems to me like the kendrick fanatics are the ones getting mad at any1 not hailing this a masterpiece.
Agree to disagree. I personally think it's a breath of fresh air and one of the best releases to come out of the west coast over the past several years.
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I hope this album blows up commercially. It would be a clear message to all those corporate jews to leave the creative control to the artists themselves. One of he best albums ive heard in years.
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It would be a clear message to all those corporate jews to leave the creative control to the artists themselves.
i dont get it...am i the only one who hears that "backseat freestyle" sounds like it could be a lil wayne track? "poetic justice" is your typical drake song...the first half of "m.a.a.d city" could be the new kanye. i dont get how so many of yall hear a "lack of industry sound" with the album? i got the exact opposite vibe from a lot of it.
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NIK I suggest you stop posting in this thread. You are looking more and more like a straight hater after stating the same points over and over and trying to convince people this album does not sound as good as they think. Just stop, man.
Its not your job to tell someone what to like, or what they want/ think the music should sound like. Make your point and move on.
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I wouldn't give this album a 5/5 either, maybe a 4.5/5 though
that 200K first week sales is a great look, hopefully Meek Mill doesn't take away from second week sales
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west coast fuck it la/compton fans will never be happy...this nigga can put the west on the map....hell his whole crew some mic wreckers...
but niggas want that same old tired bullshit...
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MC Eiht rapping over the 'Bird In Hand' type beat was the best thing about this album, but wtf? at the first half butchery of the song!?
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This album has been on repeat since I first put it on. Absolutely incredible. I can't wait to receive my album in the mail. It's very impressive that a hip hop concept/short story album has been able to become a hit with the masses. I'm from L.A., and many of my friends stopped listening to west coast rap, or even hip hop in general. They still bump the west coast classics of course, but a few of them are actually liking this album. Th GKMC is really becoming a hit with a whole bunch of different crowds too.
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I was looking fwd to this but I'm samplin' it now...I'm bored...Sounds East Coast/South to me, was hoping for some West Coast funky flavour. Maybe it will grow on me.
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To the people saying it's not West Coast enough must not be from out here because the story he's telling is straight LA. The type of shit that happens to him in the story is going on & been going on in these streets.
not the content, the sound of the music. theres a difference.
Agree
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Sales(projected) looking impressive.
Gonna give this album a decent listen in my car and through a top end sound system at my dads on the weekend. Looking forward to that.
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NIK I suggest you stop posting in this thread. You are looking more and more like a straight hater after stating the same points over and over and trying to convince people this album does not sound as good as they think. Just stop, man.
Its not your job to tell someone what to like, or what they want/ think the music should sound like. Make your point and move on.
stop getting emotional. my last post was asking dude if he heard the current top-40 hit sound in kendrick's album, not about it lacking a regional sound. completely different. ur gettin way too sensitive bout the whole thing, brobro.
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
Haha I was reading this thinking "Yo this dude is on point" then I scroll up and see it's the homie Cham coming through to crush the buildings 8).
This album has been given a XXL and a 9.5 on Pitchfork, it's Metacritic rating is right up there. This album will be hailed as a West Coast classic, album is being talked about by literally everyone, it's a moment in hip hop. I'm just gonna appreciate it cos I've been riding with Kendrick for a few years now and it's dope to see him living up to his potential without sacrificing his artistic integrity.
"Backseat Freestyle" is dope, really gives me that vibe of when I was a teen, freestyling drunk in the backseat of the homies car, cruising round up to bullshit or on the way to a party, he nailed the feeling. "Money Trees" is probably my favourite track at the moment though.
In my opinion, by the end of 2012 TDE could have arguably 3 of the top 5 albums this year
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west coast fuck it la/compton fans will never be happy...this nigga can put the west on the map....hell his whole crew some mic wreckers...
but niggas want that same old tired bullshit...
yeah exactly... i understand nikcc's opinion about the lack of regional sound but I think that's just Kendrick's style though. it would be disappointing to hear him spit on beats that sound cliché. i haven't listened to GKMC (waiting for my copy), but at least, and unlike slaughterhouse he didn't reach for the likes of alex da kid... I liked the beats a lot on S.80 and if he stuck with that vibe i'd be happy. kendrick's content is westcoast as it gets though, and that's the most important thing in my eyes. why conform to a so-called "regional sound" ? it would be a problem if kendrick's shit sounded unauthentic, but I think he sounds authentic (i mean at least on section .80), dude got his own steez (as his camp does), regardless of the obvious inspirations, he ain't mimicking 3 stacks, he just sounds kinda like him, that's a big difference, not like Da Brat who was clearly biting DPG (i liked it still) or Tha Realest (who i like to some extent, too).
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It would be a clear message to all those corporate jews to leave the creative control to the artists themselves.
i dont get it...am i the only one who hears that "backseat freestyle" sounds like it could be a lil wayne track? "poetic justice" is your typical drake song...the first half of "m.a.a.d city" could be the new kanye. i dont get how so many of yall hear a "lack of industry sound" with the album? i got the exact opposite vibe from a lot of it.
Yeah, I honestly don't get it either, sounds like pretty typical mainstream sound to me, just with different content and a bit better rapping...
I can understand people loving it for the concept album thing, but the overall sound, I don't get why people think this is something new,
it's pretty standard stuff as far as beats and delivery, etc.
NME gave it a 6/10 review, so it's not like it has universal acclaim...
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Wow, I'm really impressed with the album! When I first listened to the snippets, I was incredibly let down, but after all the positive feedback it was getting from the leak, I went and picked up the Target Delux edition and I'm blown away! This is top notch hip hop! Been a huge Kendrick fan since the beginning and I was doubtful he could top Section 80, but he did it, this album is almost flawless! Love the way it flows, Kendrick comes correct of course, beats are on point. K Dot did it, proud of the homie, good to see somone from the west, have major hype and live up to it and surpass it! He is the future of not just the westcoast but the future of hip hop! By the way, 7 out of 8 Targets within a 30 minute radius in So.Ca were sold out of the delux edition, I had drive 30 minutes to cop it. Hip hop has a new king, heres to Top Dawg taking over!!
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west coast fuck it la/compton fans will never be happy...this nigga can put the west on the map....hell his whole crew some mic wreckers...
but niggas want that same old tired bullshit...
yeah exactly... i understand nikcc's opinion about the lack of regional sound but I think that's just Kendrick's style though. it would be disappointing to hear him spit on beats that sound cliché. i haven't listened to GKMC (waiting for my copy), but at least, and unlike slaughterhouse he didn't reach for the likes of alex da kid... I liked the beats a lot on S.80 and if he stuck with that vibe i'd be happy. kendrick's content is westcoast as it gets though, and that's the most important thing in my eyes. why conform to a so-called "regional sound" ? it would be a problem if kendrick's shit sounded unauthentic, but I think he sounds authentic (i mean at least on section .80), dude got his own steez (as his camp does), regardless of the obvious inspirations, he ain't mimicking 3 stacks, he just sounds kinda like him, that's a big difference, not like Da Brat who was clearly biting DPG (i liked it still) or Tha Realest (who i like to some extent, too).
Exactly. Glad Kendrick did his own thing and didn't go for the cliche west coast sound you would expect from a cd released by a Southern Cali artist.
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i dont understand all your guys love for money trees..its one of my least favs on the album..bores me...oh well..
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How Shyne outta all people gonna call Kendrick's album trash when he ain't had anything remotely close to a classic? He said the beats were trash when his best beat in his whole career was a D.O.C/Dr. Dre loop. Kendrick Lamar will, rap circles around this clown. His claim to fame was coming out as a Biggie sound alike & now he can't even do that right. Wow! http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.21628/title.shyne-explains-why-he-thinks-kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-is-trash/
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i like what ive heard of it so far but i read someone said something here about three stacks i get that when he does his singing double layered nasal thing he does and i ont care for it.
i think that it has classic qualities but a few things like replay value, cultural impact and how well it ages all need to be assessed to be a real true classic.
ppl say everythings classic nowadays, we were having this convo about ross album a few months ago
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It would be a clear message to all those corporate jews to leave the creative control to the artists themselves.
i dont get it...am i the only one who hears that "backseat freestyle" sounds like it could be a lil wayne track? "poetic justice" is your typical drake song...the first half of "m.a.a.d city" could be the new kanye. i dont get how so many of yall hear a "lack of industry sound" with the album? i got the exact opposite vibe from a lot of it.
Yeah, I honestly don't get it either, sounds like pretty typical mainstream sound to me, just with different content and a bit better rapping...
I can understand people loving it for the concept album thing, but the overall sound, I don't get why people think this is something new,
it's pretty standard stuff as far as beats and delivery, etc.
NME gave it a 6/10 review, so it's not like it has universal acclaim...
NME gave RAP Music a 5/10, they aren't exactly hip hop experts
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
Haha I was reading this thinking "Yo this dude is on point" then I scroll up and see it's the homie Cham coming through to crush the buildings 8).
This album has been given a XXL and a 9.5 on Pitchfork, it's Metacritic rating is right up there. This album will be hailed as a West Coast classic, album is being talked about by literally everyone, it's a moment in hip hop. I'm just gonna appreciate it cos I've been riding with Kendrick for a few years now and it's dope to see him living up to his potential without sacrificing his artistic integrity.
"Backseat Freestyle" is dope, really gives me that vibe of when I was a teen, freestyling drunk in the backseat of the homies car, cruising round up to bullshit or on the way to a party, he nailed the feeling. "Money Trees" is probably my favourite track at the moment though.
In my opinion, by the end of 2012 TDE could have arguably 3 of the top 5 albums this year
Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
It's actually more lyrical than anything you can find on the West Coast aside from Crooked I & Murs.
Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
It's why the Coast has struggled for the last decade+. It's a reason why the Game got so much attention. Outside of the fact Aftermath lead him towards a mainstream sound, all he did was namedrop & praise legends. Nobody will ever amount to the 90's guys to some posters here. It's just the sickest case of nostoglia of all-time.
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i think that it has classic qualities but a few things like replay value, cultural impact and how well it ages all need to be assessed to be a real true classic.
right on, only time will tell... nowadays with the social media being in its heyday, things often become a snowball effect and people exaggerate a lot but in the end the music rarely stands the test of time. culturally wise i think kendrick is as relevant as can be, dude is young, he embodies and symbolizes a significant part of today's youth, he ain't stuck in the past and he's on a positive tip that you always get by upcoming mainstream rappers ("fuck your ethnicity", "you ain't gotta get drunk to have fun") plus he really represents the good part of newer westcoast artists (i think the term new west is dated) . this is one of the most important ingredient to define a classic regardless of the actual quality. the impact you manage to make. a lot of classics out here aren't better music wise than a lot of albums that came out at the same time but didn't make the same noise and maybe weren't as relevant. the actual quality and replay value are vital factors too but idk about them for now.
then again he sold 200k which is awesome for kendrick but isn't comparable to the Kanye's, Drake's, Weezy's etc. i think the pick for the second single and the way it's gonna be pushed is gonna be dramatic.
Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
i think you read into it too much. there's people that just don't like kendrick's nerdiness, and that don't like his style while acknowledging the indisputable talent and that just don't like the type of rap he's doing, with all the crazy hooks, the weird bridges and choruses. and there are people who expected a traditional rap album and didn't get that. ppl who think the kid got too much praise in the first place and are bothered by so much laudatory comments. there are multiple reasons not to call this album classic. i think it's too soon to judge anyway. but i don't have any expectation soundwise coming from the album, cause k dot is pretty unpredictable, i just hope he'll deliver as he did on section .80
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kendrick said himself its too early to call it a classic...told yall to wait 10 years...lmao...
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Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
i think you read into it too much. there's people that just don't like kendrick's nerdiness, and that don't like his style while acknowledging the indisputable talent and that just don't like the type of rap he's doing, with all the crazy hooks, the weird bridges and choruses. and there are people who expected a traditional rap album and didn't get that. ppl who think the kid got too much praise in the first place and are bothered by so much laudatory comments. there are multiple reasons not to call this album classic. i think it's too soon to judge anyway. but i don't have any expectation soundwise coming from the album, cause k dot is pretty unpredictable, i just hope he'll deliver as he did on section .80
Na, rest assured if this was a Tupac album after he said he's trying a "new direction", this would be considered in the highest regard.
It's just human nature. Old heads never want to see new heads come in & change shit.
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Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
The actual content is more advanced, for sure, and the faster flow,
but it's the overall sound that sounds kinda regular mainstream...
Like the beats are mostly your regular drum machine/keyboard beats we normally get,
and the style he uses vocally isn't really anything in particular...
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Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
i think you read into it too much. there's people that just don't like kendrick's nerdiness, and that don't like his style while acknowledging the indisputable talent and that just don't like the type of rap he's doing, with all the crazy hooks, the weird bridges and choruses. and there are people who expected a traditional rap album and didn't get that. ppl who think the kid got too much praise in the first place and are bothered by so much laudatory comments. there are multiple reasons not to call this album classic. i think it's too soon to judge anyway. but i don't have any expectation soundwise coming from the album, cause k dot is pretty unpredictable, i just hope he'll deliver as he did on section .80
Na, rest assured if this was a Tupac album after he said he's trying a "new direction", this would be considered in the highest regard.
Not true I'm dying for a solid new artist...was hoping it was this guy...he can spit but classic albums equal, flow, lyrics and beats....I find the beats boring as shit to the point I don't even want to listen....Too Kanye West-ish...he's a "new" artist perse...do you think he's sick? I personally find him annoying and highly overrated.
The reality is major labels control airplay...Media controls what the "population" hears. If you hear a song 50 times and compare it to something you've heard once, you're usually brain washed to pick the one you've heard 50 times because you know it. It's not hating, just different tastes....
Sorry guys I'm not a fan of this album but i'm trying to let it grow on me...I just need to wake up first. I'm a West Coast fan and it's what I like...There's not much of it left so when a "West Coast" artist is broken by Dr. Dre we all get excited but the reality is we are a very small percentage of the music population. Kendrick's album will do well because all genre lovers will like it, embrace it or accept it.
It's just human nature. Old heads never want to see new heads come in & change shit.
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Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
The actual content is more advanced, for sure, and the faster flow,
but it's the overall sound that sounds kinda regular mainstream...
Like the beats are mostly your regular drum machine/keyboard beats we normally get,
and the style he uses vocally isn't really anything in particular...
I get this is a West Coast forum & most of your guys favorite artists like Snoop, Eazy & DJ Quik had little to no lyrics at all & let beats that Snoop & Eazy didn't produce carry most of their legacy, but why would generic sounding, duplicates of "true, LA/Compton/G-Funk" sounding production make this album better?
It has a futuristic sound to it. In 2012, I'll take the first beat in "m.A.A.d City" over the beat that it switches two with Eiht.
Like I've been saying, you guys are too caught up in the fact it isn't true to the West Coast in terms of production. I'll be honest, I'm happy he went with this route & rode the beats that fit his style over having Dre try to recreate sounds he can't make anymore that sound generic as fuck for 15 songs. For once West Coast, listen to the lyrics & enjoy the man's rise & story over looking for an instrumental album to play in your car.
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to me, the beats on the album fit perfect for each song with the story he is trying to tell. the beats allow kendricks story and message to shine, while still making the tracks sound good and the sound cohesive.
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Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
The actual content is more advanced, for sure, and the faster flow,
but it's the overall sound that sounds kinda regular mainstream...
Like the beats are mostly your regular drum machine/keyboard beats we normally get,
and the style he uses vocally isn't really anything in particular...
I get this is a West Coast forum & most of your guys favorite artists like Snoop, Eazy & DJ Quik had little to no lyrics at all & let beats that Snoop & Eazy didn't produce carry most of their legacy, but why would generic sounding, duplicates of "true, LA/Compton/G-Funk" sounding production make this album better?
It has a futuristic sound to it. In 2012, I'll take the first beat in "m.A.A.d City" over the beat that it switches two with Eiht.
I don't want g-funk beats, I agree they're played out...
But I think it's a reasonable thing to point out that the beats on this album are just general, mainstream
sounding beats...
The album is about the concept, that's cool, especially for people really into content, I understand why
they're going crazy over it...
But I think it's fair to say that it doesn't really sound "new" overall, it sounds like regular mainstream hip-hop
for the most part...
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I can understand a few songs having a mainstream sounding beat. But they weren't poppy-like. Like PLANT said, I think they fit the concept song for song. Then you got songs like "Money Trees" that don't really sound mainstream.
At the end of the day, Aftermath put the album out. Have to figure there is going to be some mainstream appeal. But certainly not forced like ANYONE else doing those kind of numbers in the game today.
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I can understand a few songs having a mainstream sounding beat. But they weren't poppy-like. Like PLANT said, I think they fit the concept song for song. Then you got songs like "Money Trees" that don't really sound mainstream.
At the end of the day, Aftermath put the album out. Have to figure there is going to be some mainstream appeal. But certainly not forced like ANYONE else doing those kind of numbers in the game today.
the song with drake IMO is the worst song on the album and im a huge drake fan. he makes good music. but the song was kinda lame. fits the album concept tho. money trees with jay rock is a classic!
and i still havent seen anybody say this. but he completely took Logic's beat! obviously not the same exact song but EXACT same sample and the songs sound alike. im sure the producer or kendrick must have heard that beat "Addiction" for those who havent heard it.
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That song is alright. I agree it's nothing special, but it came correct for the female-track appeal.
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its okay but this should've been more revised. i think the 12 track max out was the best thing to do in this case for these songs (the 17, 18, 20 of them).
its ight but its easy to see where the overall product could've turned out better
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
Haha I was reading this thinking "Yo this dude is on point" then I scroll up and see it's the homie Cham coming through to crush the buildings 8).
This album has been given a XXL and a 9.5 on Pitchfork, it's Metacritic rating is right up there. This album will be hailed as a West Coast classic, album is being talked about by literally everyone, it's a moment in hip hop. I'm just gonna appreciate it cos I've been riding with Kendrick for a few years now and it's dope to see him living up to his potential without sacrificing his artistic integrity.
"Backseat Freestyle" is dope, really gives me that vibe of when I was a teen, freestyling drunk in the backseat of the homies car, cruising round up to bullshit or on the way to a party, he nailed the feeling. "Money Trees" is probably my favourite track at the moment though.
In my opinion, by the end of 2012 TDE could have arguably 3 of the top 5 albums this year
Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
It's actually more lyrical than anything you can find on the West Coast aside from Crooked I & Murs.
Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
It's why the Coast has struggled for the last decade+. It's a reason why the Game got so much attention. Outside of the fact Aftermath lead him towards a mainstream sound, all he did was namedrop & praise legends. Nobody will ever amount to the 90's guys to some posters here. It's just the sickest case of nostoglia of all-time.
this is wrong...i really did listen to the album with an open mind, wanting to embrace Kendrick as the new king of the west. what I found was a good album, but too similar in sound to the top-40 radio and not enough regional authenticity to claim it the savior of the west coast, or a masterpiece. as an album, shit goes. it's cohesive and tells a good story. it's not even about g-funk beats or "zapp samples" like mufuckaz keep implyin. it just doesnt have a west coast sound, period. aside from that, kendrick almost seems like an emcee still tryna find his niche, if that makes any sense. sometimes he's andre3000, sometimes he's drake, sometimes he's wayne or kanye. of course, he's more lyrical than all current radio acts, which is why i said this album is nice. doesn't mean it doesn't have the same general SOUND.
also, not all west coast shit has to beon some gangsta/g-funk shit, like cats keep implyin. there are tons of ways to capture a western sound without all the cliche shit yall keep talkin about. even a horrocore album can sound west coast (ala brotha lynch - coathanga strangla)....kendrick actually does have what it takes to make a classic album, i just feel he needs to tap a little deeper into his charisma and have dre more involved on a production tip (ala "m.a.a.d city", "the recipe") to bring us an album with the same cohesiveness and lyrical content, but more of a sound that will stick out as original and potential to be a staple sound of the west. he's like LeBron in Cleveland right now...just reached the Finals, the talk of the industry, hailed as the next golden child of hip-hop. he still has some work to do if he wants to create that definitive classic, though.
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I prefer less Dr. Dre involvement.
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Open-minded? You already admit to being close-minded by grading this album based off it's "West Coast vibe". It's a Hip Hop album, I rate it based off the genre...mostly because I listen to a wide variety of music. Like when "Life Is Good" came out I didn't sit there & wonder if it had a New York feel to it. It was just really good Hip Hop. This is just really good Hip Hop. I don't sit there & say, "Welllll, in comparison to other West Coast legends who also happen to be my favorite rappers of all-time.....this just doesn't sound the same". Bottom line, it doesn't matter how West Coast it sounds, artists don't get graded based off how much they stuck to the sound of their region.
Nothing you said really had anything to do with his music. Everything above this is just you comparing him to the 90's, which is my point. This album basically isn't "West Coast enough" for you, when to me I just compare to everything else put out, without a region or particular sound in mind. Then you want to compare him to other mainstream rappers when he's clearly more unique than them. Just because he did a song with Drake & it was for the ladies....hence the Drake feature, doesn't mean he's trying to be like Drake. He has his own sound.
Like I said, you've been saying things like "I don't see what the big deal is about him" for months now. No shocker when the album comes out you're the first to try your hardest to knock it off the pedestal.
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nobody should complain about poetic justice...it fits the concept, the songs about sherane
that janet sample was genius to use for the song...oh and drake KILLED that shit btw
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
Haha I was reading this thinking "Yo this dude is on point" then I scroll up and see it's the homie Cham coming through to crush the buildings 8).
This album has been given a XXL and a 9.5 on Pitchfork, it's Metacritic rating is right up there. This album will be hailed as a West Coast classic, album is being talked about by literally everyone, it's a moment in hip hop. I'm just gonna appreciate it cos I've been riding with Kendrick for a few years now and it's dope to see him living up to his potential without sacrificing his artistic integrity.
"Backseat Freestyle" is dope, really gives me that vibe of when I was a teen, freestyling drunk in the backseat of the homies car, cruising round up to bullshit or on the way to a party, he nailed the feeling. "Money Trees" is probably my favourite track at the moment though.
In my opinion, by the end of 2012 TDE could have arguably 3 of the top 5 albums this year
Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
It's actually more lyrical than anything you can find on the West Coast aside from Crooked I & Murs.
Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
It's why the Coast has struggled for the last decade+. It's a reason why the Game got so much attention. Outside of the fact Aftermath lead him towards a mainstream sound, all he did was namedrop & praise legends. Nobody will ever amount to the 90's guys to some posters here. It's just the sickest case of nostoglia of all-time.
this is wrong...i really did listen to the album with an open mind, wanting to embrace Kendrick as the new king of the west. what I found was a good album, but too similar in sound to the top-40 radio and not enough regional authenticity to claim it the savior of the west coast, or a masterpiece. as an album, shit goes. it's cohesive and tells a good story. it's not even about g-funk beats or "zapp samples" like mufuckaz keep implyin. it just doesnt have a west coast sound, period. aside from that, kendrick almost seems like an emcee still tryna find his niche, if that makes any sense. sometimes he's andre3000, sometimes he's drake, sometimes he's wayne or kanye. of course, he's more lyrical than all current radio acts, which is why i said this album is nice. doesn't mean it doesn't have the same general SOUND.
also, not all west coast shit has to beon some gangsta/g-funk shit, like cats keep implyin. there are tons of ways to capture a western sound without all the cliche shit yall keep talkin about. even a horrocore album can sound west coast (ala brotha lynch - coathanga strangla)....kendrick actually does have what it takes to make a classic album, i just feel he needs to tap a little deeper into his charisma and have dre more involved on a production tip (ala "m.a.a.d city", "the recipe") to bring us an album with the same cohesiveness and lyrical content, but more of a sound that will stick out as original and potential to be a staple sound of the west. he's like LeBron in Cleveland right now...just reached the Finals, the talk of the industry, hailed as the next golden child of hip-hop. he still has some work to do if he wants to create that definitive classic, though.
are you a fan of the documentary??
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go check siccness...most of them cats didnt even know the album dropped. it makes sense that hip-hop outlets outside of the west are hyping this release the hardest. thats because the sound is not west coast. hip-hop heads in cali are typically on a completely different sound. its a good album, but those calling it "classic" or "masterpiece" are doin too much.
I don't go to Siccness often because outside of a couple artists, I'm not much into the newer Bay Area stuff. Was the thread below the one you're referring to?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/f5/kendrick-lamar%92s-%93good-kid-m-d-city%94-good-but-not-classic-354417-2.html
Contrary to what you said, "most of them cats" was one or two people. The rest had heard the album and praised it in one form of another. I've said multiple times I can't call it a classic now, however I can't think of a West Coast Rap album that has dropped within the past few years that blew me away like this one after the first few listens. The two quotes below from Siccness sums up the problem many of the people on this board have with moving on.
Maybe you dont have to sound like every other west coast rapper/album? You gotta adjust to the times, that's why i fucks with Kendrick because he's different than most rappers, his flow is not even West Coast if you think about it, he actually touches on all regions from west to east and in between. I havent heard the album yet but heard most tracks, and if you're going to bring the west coast back, not like he said he was going to, but if you are, you gotta fuck with different producers and different rappers.
People wonder why Bay Area rap goes nowhere, because we're stuck in the same pool, no one goes to producers from different areas, its all the same producers which is why it sounds the same.
what you want him to do rap over zapp beats wile braggin about slangin dope with his red rag around his 40 ounce of OE and yelling fuck the police and everybody needs to bow down cause he from the mighty untouchable west coast?
more like
his beats suck and his alien voice thing is annoying
I never thought it was gonna be a classic anyway and haven't heard someone else called it "the return of the west coast" or whatever
IMO dope album. Kendrick is a good story teller and that is missing these days. Not saying its a classic. But it's as solid or better then anything regional or west coast that has dropped recently. Props on a solid album
the tone on most west coast forums are different...theyre calling it anywhere from dope to whack, where the overwhelming majority on most hip-hop sites are treating it as a masterpiece.
I get your point...Quit hatin homie, youre basically saying the same shit in over and over again youre trying to hard
Thank you. This kid needs to carry on with his life. He's caught up in defending the "West Coast sound" & not just enjoying the music. He's always had backhanded things to say about Kendrick though. For that exact reason. NIK's ringtone is still "Ain't Nothin' But A G Thang" & has an Eazy-E poster on his wall. Dude won't rest until he does everything in his power to convince whoever he can that this is NOT CLOSE to being on the level of anything his non-lyrical West Coast favorites from the 90's all because Kendrick is new school & has a more innovative sound than anything that's come out of the West Coast in over a decade.
#Nostalgia
Haha I was reading this thinking "Yo this dude is on point" then I scroll up and see it's the homie Cham coming through to crush the buildings 8).
This album has been given a XXL and a 9.5 on Pitchfork, it's Metacritic rating is right up there. This album will be hailed as a West Coast classic, album is being talked about by literally everyone, it's a moment in hip hop. I'm just gonna appreciate it cos I've been riding with Kendrick for a few years now and it's dope to see him living up to his potential without sacrificing his artistic integrity.
"Backseat Freestyle" is dope, really gives me that vibe of when I was a teen, freestyling drunk in the backseat of the homies car, cruising round up to bullshit or on the way to a party, he nailed the feeling. "Money Trees" is probably my favourite track at the moment though.
In my opinion, by the end of 2012 TDE could have arguably 3 of the top 5 albums this year
Thank you for seeing this albums pure dopeness. I don't see how people are comparing it to a mainstream album. It's far ahead lyrically of any act today. Guys like NIK comparing it to Wayne, Drake & Kanye. Foooooolish. So much more lyrical than them.
It's actually more lyrical than anything you can find on the West Coast aside from Crooked I & Murs.
Like I said, those who find this album "average" or "okay" or whatever are just defending their mid-90's roots & don't want the word "classic" being thrown around to a kid of the game. The idea of some "new school kid" getting the same praise people used to give those old school dudes, just turns them off to his music.
It's why the Coast has struggled for the last decade+. It's a reason why the Game got so much attention. Outside of the fact Aftermath lead him towards a mainstream sound, all he did was namedrop & praise legends. Nobody will ever amount to the 90's guys to some posters here. It's just the sickest case of nostoglia of all-time.
this is wrong...i really did listen to the album with an open mind, wanting to embrace Kendrick as the new king of the west. what I found was a good album, but too similar in sound to the top-40 radio and not enough regional authenticity to claim it the savior of the west coast, or a masterpiece. as an album, shit goes. it's cohesive and tells a good story. it's not even about g-funk beats or "zapp samples" like mufuckaz keep implyin. it just doesnt have a west coast sound, period. aside from that, kendrick almost seems like an emcee still tryna find his niche, if that makes any sense. sometimes he's andre3000, sometimes he's drake, sometimes he's wayne or kanye. of course, he's more lyrical than all current radio acts, which is why i said this album is nice. doesn't mean it doesn't have the same general SOUND.
also, not all west coast shit has to beon some gangsta/g-funk shit, like cats keep implyin. there are tons of ways to capture a western sound without all the cliche shit yall keep talkin about. even a horrocore album can sound west coast (ala brotha lynch - coathanga strangla)....kendrick actually does have what it takes to make a classic album, i just feel he needs to tap a little deeper into his charisma and have dre more involved on a production tip (ala "m.a.a.d city", "the recipe") to bring us an album with the same cohesiveness and lyrical content, but more of a sound that will stick out as original and potential to be a staple sound of the west. he's like LeBron in Cleveland right now...just reached the Finals, the talk of the industry, hailed as the next golden child of hip-hop. he still has some work to do if he wants to create that definitive classic, though.
are you a fan of the documentary??
yes...but to me, "documentary" is a better album.
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Open-minded? You already admit to being close-minded by grading this album based off it's "West Coast vibe". It's a Hip Hop album, I rate it based off the genre...mostly because I listen to a wide variety of music. Like when "Life Is Good" came out I didn't sit there & wonder if it had a New York feel to it. It was just really good Hip Hop. This is just really good Hip Hop. I don't sit there & say, "Welllll, in comparison to other West Coast legends who also happen to be my favorite rappers of all-time.....this just doesn't sound the same". Bottom line, it doesn't matter how West Coast it sounds, artists don't get graded based off how much they stuck to the sound of their region.
Nothing you said really had anything to do with his music. Everything above this is just you comparing him to the 90's, which is my point. This album basically isn't "West Coast enough" for you, when to me I just compare to everything else put out, without a region or particular sound in mind. Then you want to compare him to other mainstream rappers when he's clearly more unique than them. Just because he did a song with Drake & it was for the ladies....hence the Drake feature, doesn't mean he's trying to be like Drake. He has his own sound.
Like I said, you've been saying things like "I don't see what the big deal is about him" for months now. No shocker when the album comes out you're the first to try your hardest to knock it off the pedestal.
when i say he lacks charisma and doesn't have a signature style of his own, does that also fall into the category of "not having anything to do with his music"? LOL you dont get it. it's okay. i don't expect u to. i didn't once "compare him to the 90s" like u claim. i never thought kendrick was a great rapper, i always thought he was good. but when "the recipe" dropped and i found out dre was puttin his album out, i thought it had potential to be special, because he's a good technical rapper, and dre brings out the best in people. then when cats started talkin about it being classic and called a masterpiece before i got the chance to bump it, i was even gettin hyped. i still think it's good, it just wasnt that special somethin i was expectin.
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If you don't like the new album, it's cool. No need to say it over and over again in different threads.
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If you don't like the new album, it's cool. No need to say it over and over again in different threads.
Are u trollin? Where did I say I don't like it.. I was simply responding to cham's nonsense rant about me. Keep up.
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If you don't like the new album, it's cool. No need to say it over and over again in different threads.
Are u trollin? Where did I say I don't like it.. I was simply responding to cham's nonsense rant about me. Keep up.
Actually, i wasn't talkin' about you right now. If you read the other threads you'll see a few names that keep dissin the album.
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If you don't like the new album, it's cool. No need to say it over and over again in different threads.
Are u trollin? Where did I say I don't like it.. I was simply responding to cham's nonsense rant about me. Keep up.
Actually, i wasn't talkin' about you right now. If you read the other threads you'll see a few names that keep dissin the album.
If the shoe fits wear it though?
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yall better get with the trap drums that zapp clap shit is DEAD.
no seriously if you took a song like dnt kill my vibe or even swimming pools add a zapp clapp take out the 808s and the screwed voice these nerds would be happy
everytime i play dudes cd i like it more
art put me on to kdot....he put the HOC song on one of his mixes a couple years ago.
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Good! very good album!everytime i play this cd i like it more and more
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Good album. Don't think it's a classic though. I know a classic when I hear one. Classic is when more than like 70% of an album makes you go :o :o :o :o :o
Definitely not the case with this album.
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To be fair & clarify, I don't think this album is a "classic" & never said it was. It's a 9.5/10 though. Easily the best album the West Coast has produced since "The Documentary" or "Guilty By Affiliation". Easily, bar for bar, the best mainstream, label promoted, 250k+ selling album since...I couldn't even tell you. & easily album of the year to this point.
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album is nice nut yo
can someone hookup a link i had this song by kdot aka kendrick called NWA Produced by Fredreck, and another called Lilla Kali By J-rock and K-dot
had both but CPU hard drive went out
thx!!!!!!!
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Been listening to it a bit more in my car. And yeah, its good but its not an instant classic i dont think. I like how its experimental but some of it works some dosent. I think hes a really good rapper but some verses he just don't rap that good or dose weird shit with his voice.
And i definitely see what people mean about some of the beats and "sound" being a bit generic/typical modern rap sounding/southern influence etc.
But iam liking the album.
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when 1st week sale?
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when 1st week sale?
Usually announce it by the Monday after the cd drops. Right now projections have it between 200-250k.
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when 1st week sale?
Usually announce it by the Monday after the cd drops. Right now projections have it between 200-250k.
just wonder how long time takes gkmc go to gold by riaa
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Only thing that annoys me about this album is how tracks/skits are grouped together. Imagine if this was a Snoop Dogg album - this shit would be divided up into 30 tracks. But the good side of that is that you can make your own playlists without unneccesary skits. Particularly the grouping of Sing For Me and Dying Of Thirst annoys me. I don't really like Sing For Me, but I'm down with Dying Of Thirst. Pisses me off that I can't listen to the latter without having to go through the former. Also, I think the two parts of "m.A.A.d City" should be divided. The second part is fuckin' fire, the first part is just OK.
Favourite joints:
1. Good Kid
People are sleeping on this. Pharell came correct on the beat. Kendrick spits fire. My favourite hip hop track of 2012 by far.
2. Swimming Pools (drank)
I was sleeping on this initially, but damn that is fire. THIS is how you write an insanely catchy pop chorus without getting corny. Other rappers take note. And I love the fact that its a "commercial" song on the surface, but has a serious message.
3. m.A.A.d City
The first part doesn't do much for me, but the second part is an instant classic. Classic hip-hop beat. Kendricks verse when the beat breaks down and they do the pitch effects...OMFG! This is hip-hop.
4. Sherane A.K.A. Master Splinters Daughter
Kendrick is a masterful storyteller. Love his laid back "storytelling" voice and this beat is my shit. Real melancholy shit.
5. Now Or Never
People are sleeping on this too. This is just a really really good classic soulful popsong reminiscent of the 70's. Doesn't fit the mood of the album, so rightfully relegated to bonus track status, but I gotta say I love it.
Lots of other hot tracks on this, but those would be my favourites after about 8-10 listens or so.
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after a few listen one of the best in 2012, gonna buy it!
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cant stop bumpin "bitch dont kill my vibe" that shit fuckn bangs hard ass fuck....
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
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I think the two parts of "m.A.A.d City" should be divided. The second part is fuckin' fire, the first part is just OK.
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I think the album is GREAT. I don't have a problem AT ALL with Kendrick on the album. I thought his lyrics were impressive. I was actually surprised a bit. This cat is very talented. The content and concepts were also GREAT. Kendrick was the shit. He has his own original style, which I can respect. The problem I have with the album is the SOUND. Sure i'm digging some of the beats but at the same time, it's not my style. It's not something I would call WESTCOAST. It's a modern era, commercial sound that I really don't like too much. This is why I'm not sure If I can call it a CLASSIC. It's not about Kendrick but the sound of the album. I wasn't expecting Gangsta BEATS but more of a west coast vintage sound. I guess if you are a new cat on the block, you might like this new sound. I'm old school, so I'm having a hard time trying to get into the new shit. I still think the album is GREAT and Kendrick deserves the praise. Just not digging the sound.
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Can someone hook u p a link so i can bump it??
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
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Kendrick has DIRECTION. Something very few rappers have. Really, the only chance that "Detox" has of seeing the light of day is if Dre puts Kendrick in charge of the project.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
it's not a great cut, but it's good, somewhat grows on u. my preference would be if he could hit us with an album fulla songs like "the recipe" and 2nd half of "m.a.a.d city"
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
it's not a great cut, but it's good, somewhat grows on u. my preference would be if he could hit us with an album fulla songs like "the recipe" and 2nd half of "m.a.a.d city"
Personally, that would be a step down. It'll be very interesting to see what type of album Kendrick Lamar will do next.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
it's not a great cut, but it's good, somewhat grows on u. my preference would be if he could hit us with an album fulla songs like "the recipe" and 2nd half of "m.a.a.d city"
Personally, that would be a step down. It'll be very interesting to see what type of album Kendrick Lamar will do next.
..in your eyes. i'd say it has higher potential to be classic if he goes with that formula. depends on the sound ur lookin for, though. for instance, the second half of "m.a.a.d city" has a higher chance of being timeless than the 1st half, which i'd say is too reminiscent of ur average 2012 radio hit.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
it's not a great cut, but it's good, somewhat grows on u. my preference would be if he could hit us with an album fulla songs like "the recipe" and 2nd half of "m.a.a.d city"
Personally, that would be a step down. It'll be very interesting to see what type of album Kendrick Lamar will do next.
..in your eyes. i'd say it has higher potential to be classic if he goes with that formula. depends on the sound ur lookin for, though. for instance, the second half of "m.a.a.d city" has a higher chance of being timeless than the 1st half, which i'd say is too reminiscent of ur average 2012 radio hit.
It's funny that I'm seeing people saying the opposite. That this will not appeal to the masses, because it's not commercial enough lol. At this point, I just have faith in whatever Kendrick Lamar chooses to do, until he disappoints me. He exceeded my expectations for the album.
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The way Kendrick cuts his Dad's voicemail into the song near the end of "Real" is genius, that song has so much soul, and heart. I think it was a dope idea putting "Compton" after that, as it's kind of a flash forward to Kendricks life now and proves to the kids that you can make it out. This album gets better with every listen, for real.
Yeah would be cool if a follow up album starts where Compton left us
i agree...perhaps maybe more west coast influenced innovative dre beats on the next one + the same emceeing skills with a little growth displayed, sequenced with the same conceptual style in similar fashion could make for a classic.
compton is a gimmick ass record.
every beat ive heard from blaze recently sounds like why you hate the game...hes burning that sound out.
it's not a great cut, but it's good, somewhat grows on u. my preference would be if he could hit us with an album fulla songs like "the recipe" and 2nd half of "m.a.a.d city"
Personally, that would be a step down. It'll be very interesting to see what type of album Kendrick Lamar will do next.
..in your eyes. i'd say it has higher potential to be classic if he goes with that formula. depends on the sound ur lookin for, though. for instance, the second half of "m.a.a.d city" has a higher chance of being timeless than the 1st half, which i'd say is too reminiscent of ur average 2012 radio hit.
It's funny that I'm seeing people saying the opposite. That this will not appeal to the masses, because it's not commercial enough lol. At this point, I just have faith in whatever Kendrick Lamar chooses to do, until he disappoints me. He exceeded my expectations for the album.
Yea, I heard people say that too.. Duno where it's comin from
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I definitely agree the album starts off kinda weak then gets much better.
i think some of the songs sound good when you listen to the whole album but if i were to just play some of the songs individually i wouldn't like it. I mean a couple tracks on there if it were my first impression of Kendrick i wouldn't be impressed. But others on the other hand :o
But he aint no crooked i or chino.
Its funny where i live NOBODY ive mentioned him too, including hip hop heads has heard of him.
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Can someone hook u p a link so i can bump it??
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.amazon.com/good-m-A-A-d-city-digital-booklet/dp/B009QI4BA2&sa=U&ei=nqaOUP-wK8nOigLqvIHADQ&ved=0CBsQFjAA&sig2=nFZfr-20HJTNNEyQSu_VPg&usg=AFQjCNFOLPpr9j7bxc9tTEA2D30nUEp99Q
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
Go with the beats, can't go wrong.
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
Go with the beats, can't go wrong.
Beats Studio definitely
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any1 who will that money amount of money for that headphones (beats by dre) is plain retarded
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
Go with the beats, can't go wrong.
Beats Studio definitely
If you want some AWESOME headphones for a good prize get you some AKG K99's. Them babies are super comfortable, have a rich, deep and smooth sound and provide a nice listening experience to any kind of high quality music. I dont find the article anymore, but they have been voted in the top 5 of best headphones in the last decade. their motto suits them well - AKG Sounds Better. I bumped the album on my stereo and then put it on my mp3 player (which doesnt provide a good sound though) where I sport some Sony earphones. I loved the album. Then I had a listening session with my AKG's and came rainbows!
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
Go with the beats, can't go wrong.
Beats Studio definitely
If you want some AWESOME headphones for a good prize get you some AKG K99's. Them babies are super comfortable, have a rich, deep and smooth sound and provide a nice listening experience to any kind of high quality music. I dont find the article anymore, but they have been voted in the top 5 of best headphones in the last decade. their motto suits them well - AKG Sounds Better. I bumped the album on my stereo and then put it on my mp3 player (which doesnt provide a good sound though) where I sport some Sony earphones. I loved the album. Then I had a listening session with my AKG's and came rainbows!
I've had my studios now for a couple of years but I'll have to check out the AKG's when I need to re-up!
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OK, I'm now ready to call it a classic. I liked it from the first listen, but I didn't love all of it. However, the replay value of this is incredible. It literally justs gets better with each listen. There aren't any of those types of tracks that you tire of quickly. Quite the contrary, I now like every single track on the album. No filler, no skipping.
To me, this is easily the best hip-hop album since 2006 when Kanye released Late Registration and Game released Doctors Advocate.
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OK, I'm now ready to call it a classic. I liked it from the first listen, but I didn't love all of it. However, the replay value of this is incredible. It literally justs gets better with each listen. There aren't any of those types of tracks that you tire of quickly. Quite the contrary, I now like every single track on the album. No filler, no skipping.
To me, this is easily the best hip-hop album since 2006 when Kanye released Late Registration and Game released Doctors Advocate.
i've came back to this album and now i like it more but still not as much as most people here
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
If you do get Beats be sure to get the in-ear version. From what I've seen, read and heard the headphones break in the wierdest places and'll literally have you yelling "WTF?!" when it does.
Personally I've always used skullcandy headphones. They're bass is a lot better than most headphones (IMHO), sound's pretty great and you'll still be able to afford going to the doctors after you buy one.
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
man... fuck these overrated, overpriced headphones. For the same cash you'll get excellent Sennheiser headphones .. much better than these toys called Beats By Dre.
you can even get one of the Pro series, probably.
Sennheiser all day everyday 8)
hes actually right i have beats studios and i had some sennheisers u get richer truer tones when you use the sennheiser
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those monster Ncredibles are pretty dope too but i cant get over the fact nick cannon endorsed em.
i sold mines
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Just set up a decent sound system. Man this album sounds fucking fantastic through it! too bad i live in a unit and would be a total areshole if i were to crank it loud often. Might have to get some beats by dre?
If you do get Beats be sure to get the in-ear version. From what I've seen, read and heard the headphones break in the wierdest places and'll literally have you yelling "WTF?!" when it does.
Personally I've always used skullcandy headphones. They're bass is a lot better than most headphones (IMHO), sound's pretty great and you'll still be able to afford going to the doctors after you buy one.
Skullcandys lol, I had some of those about 5 years ago and gave them to my homie, straight ass cheeks.
I've had my studios for 2 years and havent come close to breaking.
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Haven't heard them myself.... but from an educated guess you guys are paying for MARKETING when you buy Beats by Dre.
Do you guys know the history of Monster cables? Monster=farce. They've been obliterated in tests over and over again. They been shown on the news as being a hoax. This company spends millions on marketing to get young bucks like dudes on these forums to buy into the hype. I'm sure AKG or Seinheiser are better headphones amigos.
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Haven't heard them myself.... but from an educated guess you guys are paying for MARKETING when you buy Beats by Dre.
Do you guys know the history of Monster cables? Monster=farce. They've been obliterated in tests over and over again. They been shown on the news as being a hoax. This company spends millions on marketing to get young bucks like dudes on these forums to buy into the hype. I'm sure AKG or Seinheiser are better headphones amigos.
That may or may not be true as far as buying into the marketing hype. All I know is I have the studios and the powerbeats I've listened to the album on my studios & ran to it on my powerbeats & it sounds damn good on them. There may be better headphones out there, who knows? But I do know I buy Beats By Dre products because that's what I want. If other people can't justify spending that ammount of bread on them that's they're issue but that doesn't mean other people get the right to talk bad about a person who does by them. We have 5 differnt models of Beats in my household & they're all worth the money to me. Yeah they've become a fashon statement/status quo thing but they also happen to sound damn good. Its like a pair of new Jordans, they're might be a pair of shoes in the price range that are more comfortable to walk in or play basketball in but they don't give you the same status as a pair of J's. Plus aren't even manufactured by Monster anymore. But back on topic, Good Kid m.A.A.d City sound real good on my beats that's why I recommended them.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!! This site is funny as hell this album is an instant classic!!!! i gives a fuck what anyone's says, to listen to this album is like watching boyz n the hood for the first time, his story telling & his substance that's on this album is amazing don't nobody on the coast sound like dude. Game calling kendrick the nas of the westcoast is a good comparison.... cause the dude is genius this niggas best album his still ahead of him that's how skilled he is most great rappers that drop classic debut albums can't make shit else that tops their debut. Kendrick will, The Heart pt.3 & The jig is up are examples of that kendrick dropped those records after the album was out who do you kno doing that shit nobody! his work ethic will make him a legend alone. The reason westcoast rappers fade out is because niggas don't have substance in their music, that's why kendrick will be around for a long time cause he has that instead of some people on this website knocking him realize that kendrick blowing up is puttin the light back on the westcoast in a good way finally!! all the expectations on him from being crowned the Westcoast King by the Westcoast legends, winning llyricist of the year at the B.E.T. awards over Nas, Jay-z, J.Cole and to drop an instant classic bebut album.... talking about delivering Kendrick will go down as one of the MC'S of all time just wait & see the kid is just that talented #westwest#
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Jay Rock verse on money trees is great 8)
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Haven't heard them myself.... but from an educated guess you guys are paying for MARKETING when you buy Beats by Dre.
Do you guys know the history of Monster cables? Monster=farce. They've been obliterated in tests over and over again. They been shown on the news as being a hoax. This company spends millions on marketing to get young bucks like dudes on these forums to buy into the hype. I'm sure AKG or Seinheiser are better headphones amigos.
Like you just said, you havent heard them, so your opinion doesn't mean a thing.
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I'll have to look into those head phones but beats by dre on sale massively!! The ones i was looking at down from $500 to $215. Tempting.
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Good album , another good cd to put in my westcoast hip hop collection . Best songs are Maad City with MC Eiht , Money Trees with Jay rock , Good kid , Real , Compton with Dr Dre , Bitch don't kill my vibe is a nice track too .
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Some okay songs on here..... was more tuned into Section 80.
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Been listenin' to this everyday since it leaked. Great fuckin album, wouldn't call it a classic though. Album of the year for sure.
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Its funny how most albums take a few listens to sound really good and they seem to get better and better where as only a rare few sound great instantly and remain that way, of course some suck and remain that way.
I find every so often i find an album that sounds great at first but then i like it less each listen. At first i thought this Kendrick album was one of those. But now i realise its only because of playing it through pc monitor speakers or just flicking through it in my car, flicking through the album not really listening properly.
But now ive got a really good sound system and listened to the album right through a couple more times, its started sounding better and better again.
Sounds real good but iam still unsure about classic and still dont like the skits so much.
Its a strange album too me it sounds a hell of alot better if you listen to the songs in order instead of flicking through it. But cranking money trees loud always sounds good as fuck.
I still only listened to the bonus disk once.
I cant lie if it weren't for the Dre association and hype i would've slept on this dude for sure.
He still seems unheard of around here.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!! This site is funny as hell this album is an instant classic!!!! i gives a fuck what anyone's says, to listen to this album is like watching boyz n the hood for the first time, his story telling & his substance that's on this album is amazing don't nobody on the coast sound like dude. Game calling kendrick the nas of the westcoast is a good comparison.... cause the dude is genius this niggas best album his still ahead of him that's how skilled he is most great rappers that drop classic debut albums can't make shit else that tops their debut. Kendrick will, The Heart pt.3 & The jig is up are examples of that kendrick dropped those records after the album was out who do you kno doing that shit nobody! his work ethic will make him a legend alone. The reason westcoast rappers fade out is because niggas don't have substance in their music, that's why kendrick will be around for a long time cause he has that instead of some people on this website knocking him realize that kendrick blowing up is puttin the light back on the westcoast in a good way finally!! all the expectations on him from being crowned the Westcoast King by the Westcoast legends, winning llyricist of the year at the B.E.T. awards over Nas, Jay-z, J.Cole and to drop an instant classic bebut album.... talking about delivering Kendrick will go down as one of the MC'S of all time just wait & see the kid is just that talented #westwest#
Fuck this Post is so fucking Euro, It Makes Brian look like Malcom X.
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Haven't heard them myself.... but from an educated guess you guys are paying for MARKETING when you buy Beats by Dre.
Do you guys know the history of Monster cables? Monster=farce. They've been obliterated in tests over and over again. They been shown on the news as being a hoax. This company spends millions on marketing to get young bucks like dudes on these forums to buy into the hype. I'm sure AKG or Seinheiser are better headphones amigos.
Like you just said, you havent heard them, so your opinion doesn't mean a thing.
Well, it does actually, cuz it looks like I struck a chord with the fanboys who dolled out big $$ just for the beats by dre name. I was right on the.... money you could say ;) If you bought "premium" headphones without doing the research on other premium headphones, you are indeed, buying into the marketing hype. AKG, Seinheiser, plus numerous other brands have been around for YEARS and been used in the studio. Have you read any reviews on them? The reviews I read said they were missing some low-end and also they were built cheaply and broke often. This was a few years ago but still...
Basically every music video, tv show, and movie you see dudes rocking BBD headphones, that's what your paying for! But for real, good lookin on Dre and Jimmy for ganking you for your money. More money in their piggy banks after the music industry collapsed. Dre needs a new Ferrari this year boys!
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Haven't heard them myself.... but from an educated guess you guys are paying for MARKETING when you buy Beats by Dre.
Do you guys know the history of Monster cables? Monster=farce. They've been obliterated in tests over and over again. They been shown on the news as being a hoax. This company spends millions on marketing to get young bucks like dudes on these forums to buy into the hype. I'm sure AKG or Seinheiser are better headphones amigos.
Like you just said, you havent heard them, so your opinion doesn't mean a thing.
Well, it does actually, cuz it looks like I struck a chord with the fanboys who dolled out big $$ just for the beats by dre name. I was right on the.... money you could say ;) If you bought "premium" headphones without doing the research on other premium headphones, you are indeed, buying into the marketing hype. AKG, Seinheiser, plus numerous other brands have been around for YEARS and been used in the studio. Have you read any reviews on them? The reviews I read said they were missing some low-end and also they were built cheaply and broke often. This was a few years ago but still...
Basically every music video, tv show, and movie you see dudes rocking BBD headphones, that's what your paying for! But for real, good lookin on Dre and Jimmy for ganking you for your money. More money in their piggy banks after the music industry collapsed. Dre needs a new Ferrari this year boys!
But you're posting a thread saying people are paying for marketing when you haven't even took the time to listen to them so dude is right, your opinion is pretty useless. You're posting your post based on reviews or "history of monster" going against people who actually own them makes no sense. You're also buying into the hype, just in reverse. You like the brands you mentioned, that's fine. But it makes no sense to imply those are better when you haven't even compared. I can see if you bought a pair of beats & they broke on you or sounded like shit but you never even heard not one model. I own two different models of Beats and Kendrick's album sounds good as fuck on them. That's all that matters to me, not if the next man thinks I could've got better headphones with another brand. Then you're basing your whole point on reviews from a few years ago like they're still valid. Times have changed, they're not even partnered with Monster anymore. As far as buying Dre a new Ferrari, you don't think the CEOs of the other brands you mentioned and aren't getting rich off of consumers the same way? It's called business.
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Maad City and Money trees is dope , Looking forward to that new MC Ruhr album Which way is West in January
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Money Trees is the shit! Jay Rock Killed that!
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jay rock killed money trees, first time i've seen somebody outshine kendrick on his own track. Money trees and Maad city is in heavy rotation in my stereo
Seen a light-skinned nigga with his brains blown out
At the same burger stand where --- hang out
Now this is not a tape recorder saying that he did it
But ever since that day, I was lookin at him different
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379k, grat! :rock: :banana_hitit:
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379k, grat! :rock: :banana_hitit:
That's dope. 8)
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Got my copy last week and have listened a few tiimes.
It's a very, very good album. I was sceptical at the hype surrounding it but I think this time it may be justified. You get the sense that you're listening to something very special and unique as the album goes on. It's mixed to perfection too, only 12 tracks so no room for filler or weaker tracks.
At first I didn't 'get it' as I didn't really understand the skits and how they link to the subject matter of the songs and the sequencing of the album, but the more I've listened to it, the more it falls into place. So listening to 'Swimming Pools' for example sounds better now in the context of the album than it perhaps did when it dropped a few months ago as a stand-alone track.
Is it a classic? Possibly, but as others said, only time will tell...
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A video for Maad City joint 8)
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A video for Maad City joint 8)
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dropped over a month ago and I can safely say I haven't played it out yet 8)
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dropped over a month ago and I can safely say I haven't played it out yet 8)
came in to say the same thing. between this, trap god, and that new 3-6 that's all I've been listenin to
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I'm gonna try to sidestep the interesting but black-hole-like-discussions about personal branding and who's really being nostalgic and stick to assessing the music...though it may be difficult...
I've been listening to the album since it came out and I think I agree with the consensus that the album is damned good though calling it a classic may be a little premature and otherwise questionable.
Now I'll list a bit of where I think my thoughts break with the consensus:
I don't think this is "that different" content-wise from a lot of west coast hip-hop and that's kind of a shame. He DOES talk about drinkin', and gangs, and guns, and bitches and cars and about a lot of the same shit as other cats have for decades. He's impressively lyrically dexterous which is why it's all the sadder that he only takes the scope of what he's talking about about 5 blocks down from the Compton neighborhood where all this shit started.
That said, his rapping is fucking good and I acknowledge the variation on the story he is attempting. Instead of posturing like the late-80s and early-90s rappers like he is the king of gangsters he is blatantly saying he's a 'good kid' in the 'mad city' trying to use music to make his way out. Is such a small tweak on the same shit we've been hearing about really enough for anyone to, with a straight face, make the claim that this is breaking new ground? Good rapping? Yes. Breaking new ground? Hardly.
I think the production is a very nice marriage of modern pop hip-hop and a West Coast sound. Let's take a moment to actually discuss what we think the 'west coast sound' is. I think of west coast production as having a lot of live instrumentation and as being funky, often laid back. Many of the beats on the album fit that criteria more or less. How would you guys describe this?
The only thing to complain about it musically is that beautiful beats like Money Trees and Don't Kill My Vibe are littered with profligate and juvenile throwback lines of 'bish' and 'bitch' every other syllable. I'm not against profanity but I am for creativity. I think the OutKast standard is a decent one; they say "nigga" and "bitch" often enough but they manage not to sound like troglodytes as they do it. Like others have said, Kendrick's best records are ahead of him and I'm confident this is a standard he can meet someday but I'm not gonna lie like I'm not disappointed he didn't do so this go round.
I'm gonna go ahead and re-emphasize my disbelief that it took so little tweaking of the standard west coast gangsta rap album formula to blow the lids off so many people. Painters used to depict the fucking heavens on chapel ceilings. That's a great example of scope an artist can strive for. The political statement of the ghetto being the only thing disadvantaged kids could see past excused this kind of lack of imagination back when N.W.A did it but it's been twenty years. I don't think I'm an asshole or stuck in the past for expecting a little more imagination and legitimate grandiosity from intelligent artists. Though maybe I was naive to expect anything but the same old Compton to come out of Compton.
But I gotta respect, it's a tough balance to strike. I don't want dude to do songs about drug problems and gay marriage like another Sage Francis or Macklemore. It's admirable the line he walks between singing and rapping, pop tracks and street rap. He's a very viable voice for the millennial generation of hip-hop which is another reason I really want him to talk about more than blowjobs and how tough Compton still is.
I mean what's supposed to be the deep take away from the album? The end where his parents say stop being a vandal and be responsible for helping your family? The fact that this is impressive for 25 year old grown ass men to be having these realizations explains a lot of why we are where we are as a society today and how the glorification of crime in pop culture lowers our expectations of one another in a way it need not.
Again, I think of Big Boi on all those old OutKast albums, calling people out on being more concerned about buying new tennis shoes and beeper then taking care of their illegitimate children. I don't think I'm being overly nostalgic to appreciate that as far back as '98 Big Boi was calling out people for being losers in trying to jump on the gangsta fads of recent decades instead of being a man. He was Kendrick's age or younger. Kendrick clearly has something spiritual he wants to and can express artistically and I know he has the potential for it to be more than "stop leechin' off your parents before you turn 30".
Good album.
Good rapping. A final note on the music/production: my understanding is that the cohesion of the album is what we can give Dre credit for. The older he gets, the less keys he's actually hitting and the more big picture framing he's doing. It's his mixing and choices as an executive producer that craft the album's over-all sound and while none of the beats are produced by him, it seems to me that his fingerprints are all over this and for the better.
Feel free to come at any of my wilder claims but notice that I often qualify my statements and go back and forth with myself a bit about some of the debatable parts within my write-up.
For me, time will tell me where between 3/5 and 3.7/5 this album actually lands.
-T
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I'm gonna try to sidestep the interesting but black-hole-like-discussions about personal branding and who's really being nostalgic and stick to assessing the music...though it may be difficult...
I've been listening to the album since it came out and I think I agree with the consensus that the album is damned good though calling it a classic may be a little premature and otherwise questionable.
Now I'll list a bit of where I think my thoughts break with the consensus:
I don't think this is "that different" content-wise from a lot of west coast hip-hop and that's kind of a shame. He DOES talk about drinkin', and gangs, and guns, and bitches and cars and about a lot of the same shit as other cats have for decades. He's impressively lyrically dexterous which is why it's all the sadder that he only takes the scope of what he's talking about about 5 blocks down from the Compton neighborhood where all this shit started.
That said, his rapping is fucking good and I acknowledge the variation on the story he is attempting. Instead of posturing like the late-80s and early-90s rappers like he is the king of gangsters he is blatantly saying he's a 'good kid' in the 'mad city' trying to use music to make his way out. Is such a small tweak on the same shit we've been hearing about really enough for anyone to, with a straight face, make the claim that this is breaking new ground? Good rapping? Yes. Breaking new ground? Hardly.
I think the production is a very nice marriage of modern pop hip-hop and a West Coast sound. Let's take a moment to actually discuss what we think the 'west coast sound' is. I think of west coast production as having a lot of live instrumentation and as being funky, often laid back. Many of the beats on the album fit that criteria more or less. How would you guys describe this?
The only thing to complain about it musically is that beautiful beats like Money Trees and Don't Kill My Vibe are littered with profligate and juvenile throwback lines of 'bish' and 'bitch' every other syllable. I'm not against profanity but I am for creativity. I think the OutKast standard is a decent one; they say "nigga" and "bitch" often enough but they manage not to sound like troglodytes as they do it. Like others have said, Kendrick's best records are ahead of him and I'm confident this is a standard he can meet someday but I'm not gonna lie like I'm not disappointed he didn't do so this go round.
I'm gonna go ahead and re-emphasize my disbelief that it took so little tweaking of the standard west coast gangsta rap album formula to blow the lids off so many people. Painters used to depict the fucking heavens on chapel ceilings. That's a great example of scope an artist can strive for. The political statement of the ghetto being the only thing disadvantaged kids could see past excused this kind of lack of imagination back when N.W.A did it but it's been twenty years. I don't think I'm an asshole or stuck in the past for expecting a little more imagination and legitimate grandiosity from intelligent artists. Though maybe I was naive to expect anything but the same old Compton to come out of Compton.
But I gotta respect, it's a tough balance to strike. I don't want dude to do songs about drug problems and gay marriage like another Sage Francis or Macklemore. It's admirable the line he walks between singing and rapping, pop tracks and street rap. He's a very viable voice for the millennial generation of hip-hop which is another reason I really want him to talk about more than blowjobs and how tough Compton still is.
I mean what's supposed to be the deep take away from the album? The end where his parents say stop being a vandal and be responsible for helping your family? The fact that this is impressive for 25 year old grown ass men to be having these realizations explains a lot of why we are where we are as a society today and how the glorification of crime in pop culture lowers our expectations of one another in a way it need not.
Again, I think of Big Boi on all those old OutKast albums, calling people out on being more concerned about buying new tennis shoes and beeper then taking care of their illegitimate children. I don't think I'm being overly nostalgic to appreciate that as far back as '98 Big Boi was calling out people for being losers in trying to jump on the gangsta fads of recent decades instead of being a man. He was Kendrick's age or younger. Kendrick clearly has something spiritual he wants to and can express artistically and I know he has the potential for it to be more than "stop leechin' off your parents before you turn 30".
Good album.
Good rapping. A final note on the music/production: my understanding is that the cohesion of the album is what we can give Dre credit for. The older he gets, the less keys he's actually hitting and the more big picture framing he's doing. It's his mixing and choices as an executive producer that craft the album's over-all sound and while none of the beats are produced by him, it seems to me that his fingerprints are all over this and for the better.
Feel free to come at any of my wilder claims but notice that I often qualify my statements and go back and forth with myself a bit about some of the debatable parts within my write-up.
For me, time will tell me where between 3/5 and 3.7/5 this album actually lands.
-T
good review....people who were mind-blown by this album must not expect much. only thing i disagree with is that it has a west coast sound. while it does have the laid back factor, it's more like outkast's variation of laid back, as opposed to the traditional west coast laid back...to me, the only west coast cut on the album was the 2nd half of "maad city" and maybe "compton". read my review: http://blog.weserious.com/?p=141
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people still critizing the album?? this shits sick.. the concept, the layout, the production, the lyrics, well put together album which a lotta playback value. besides nas this the only album ive listened to this much in a minute
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I like the album. I think it's legit to discuss the strength and weaknesses of it still though. It's been a few months; there's some perspective.
Thanks NIK.
-T