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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Sccit on October 19, 2012, 02:07:36 AM
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http://blog.weserious.com/?p=141
Don’t get me wrong. Kendrick Lamar is definitely a good rapper. His new album, “good kid m.A.A.d city”, slated for an October 22nd release, is undeniably well produced and sequenced better than anything released in recent memory (Dr. Dre, anyone). I’d go as far as saying that it’s GREAT as a conceptual album. But make no mistake, the album is NOT a classic and Kendrick Lamar is NOT the savior of the west coast. As a matter of fact, I’d say that’s the main problem with “good kid m.A.A.d city”… the album has no regional sound whatsoever. If I had to guess without knowing, I’d say it came from Atlanta, possibly even the midwest. But it doesn’t have a distinct regional sound, and when it comes down to it, all the classic albums of the past have had a regional sound to them. Think about it… If Kendrick put the same album out claiming any other city, no one would know the difference. A rapper cannot “bring back the west” when their sound does not identify with the region. It’s impossible. Not that Kendrick isn’t a good rapper, because like I said, he is. Is he the greatest rapper? Technically, he’s everything you could ask for in an emcee. He’s got the lyrics, the flow, the concepts. What holds him back from being amongst the elite, though, is his current lack of identity. The charisma is not there, as Kendrick raps his verses in a similar monotone manner, track after track. The flow is definitely there. Ask Andre 3000, he’ll tell ya (though Andre did it better). Lyrically, as well. I gotta’ tip my hat to Kendrick as far as the lyricism goes. But if I could explain the overall sound of this album in three words, I’d say “Outkast meets Drake”. Which brings me to my next problem with Kendrick. The voice he uses and the often whiney cadence he raps with is reminiscent of the signature Young Money style. The flow and lyrics are lightyears ahead of any Young Money artist, but the hipster image is still there. Lets not pretend like it isn’t, because it’s borderline hipster rap. The technical aspects of his rapping skills are all on point, and I thought the album was solid. Some stand-out tracks include “Good Kid”, “m.A.A.d City” (nice to see MC Eiht on the album), “Money Trees”, “The Art of Peer Pressure”, to name a few. But sorry to those hailing it as a masterpiece and claiming the album “the return of the west coast”…because you’re wrong, to put it politely. FINAL RATING: 7.5/10
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The whole album been on repeat for a good time now.
I love that its not that typical westcoast sound, but rather new and creative.
Easy the album of the year for me, so far!
AGREE 8) its a new era of music right now and i rather listen to this shit than that South Club shit all the damn same time 90% of these west coast cats trying to drop today... NO DISS to the South but the West needed its own sound again and not copied from the South like its been for a few years after the G-Funk era faded out slowly.
the sound is not that original either cuz u can hear early Outkast influence
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I call it a classic. Best rap album Ive heard a long time. The way its structured, and the overall sound paired with Kendricks stories and lyrics make this album an instant classic if you ask me. We havnt heard something like this in quite some time.
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I call it a classic. Best rap album Ive heard a long time. The way its structured, and the overall sound paired with Kendricks stories and lyrics make this album an instant classic if you ask me. We havnt heard something like this in quite some time.
do you at least agree about the lack of regional sound and the fact that kendrick is using a similar style to drake/young money, with a lot of outkast influences? i understand kendrick is your dude, but you do see the flaws, right?
lame that you did another thread for this. Put it in the old thread.
like i said, this is its own column...is it bothering you? lol
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West coast fans are close minded as fuck. We got you. Drake type of shit. You dont even listing this album? Or you dumb.
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I’d go as far as saying that it’s GREAT as a conceptual album.
I agree with pretty much everything you brought up... I think the problem is that he's so concerned with
the content and making it a concept album, that not a lot of thought has been put into making it SOUND really good.
I think it'll definitely appeal more to people who are really into content though...
I'm more into dope flows and interesting voice/style and personality (and then if there is great content too, that's a bonus),
so I don't really ever get into Kendrick's content because the sound of it puts me off...
the album has no regional sound whatsoever. If I had to guess without knowing, I’d say it came from Atlanta, possibly even the midwest. But it doesn’t have a distinct regional sound, and when it comes down to it, all the classic albums of the past have had a regional sound to them. Think about it… If Kendrick put the same album out claiming any other city, no one would know the difference. A rapper cannot “bring back the west” when their sound does not identify with the region. It’s impossible. Not that Kendrick isn’t a good rapper, because like I said, he is. Is he the greatest rapper?
I think that's true if you want him to bring back the westcoast, but I don't think it's too big a problem that
it doesn't sound specifically westcoast...
I think a bigger problem, which is kinda the same thing, is that he doesn't have a distinct sound at all,
whether it's regional, or like conscious or jazzy or funky or electronic or anything...
To me it just sounds like anyone, from anywhere, rapping pretty well and who can rap fast,
but has no obvious personality or interesting sound,
and he's over generic beats that aren't really in any particular style at all...
Technically, he’s everything you could ask for in an emcee. He’s got the lyrics, the flow, the concepts. What holds him back from being amongst the elite, though, is his current lack of identity. The charisma is not there, as Kendrick raps his verses in a similar monotone manner, track after track.
Yeah, I think that's the big problem, there needs to be distinct personality,
like how Snoop is like a laidback pimp, Eminem is funny white trash,
2Pac is intelligent thug, Kool G Rap is gangster lyricist, Wu-Tang are hardcore kung-fu hiphop...
But Kendrick is...? To me it's just "guy rapping pretty well" and that's kinda boring...
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Or you dumb.
That's it. I stopped bothering about this on here though. This forum is dead since 3rd grade. now, just good for a quick laugh anymore.
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No way possible it sounds like Atlanta. Closest would be "Swimming pools" but even that doesn't sound hype enough...that's just modern Mike Will/40 style at most.
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Sounds familiar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVt3MVN-Fhk#!
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Just finished listen it for the first time and I must say I'm a lil' bit dissapointed - I was expecting something better. Maybe I'll change my mind after couple more spins but right now:
Section.80 > GKMC
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http://blog.weserious.com/?p=141
Don’t get me wrong. Kendrick Lamar is definitely a good rapper. His new album, “good kid m.A.A.d city”, slated for an October 22nd release, is undeniably well produced and sequenced better than anything released in recent memory (Dr. Dre, anyone). I’d go as far as saying that it’s GREAT as a conceptual album. But make no mistake, the album is NOT a classic and Kendrick Lamar is NOT the savior of the west coast. As a matter of fact, I’d say that’s the main problem with “good kid m.A.A.d city”… the album has no regional sound whatsoever. If I had to guess without knowing, I’d say it came from Atlanta, possibly even the midwest. But it doesn’t have a distinct regional sound, and when it comes down to it, all the classic albums of the past have had a regional sound to them. Think about it… If Kendrick put the same album out claiming any other city, no one would know the difference. A rapper cannot “bring back the west” when their sound does not identify with the region. It’s impossible. Not that Kendrick isn’t a good rapper, because like I said, he is. Is he the greatest rapper? Technically, he’s everything you could ask for in an emcee. He’s got the lyrics, the flow, the concepts. What holds him back from being amongst the elite, though, is his current lack of identity. The charisma is not there, as Kendrick raps his verses in a similar monotone manner, track after track. The flow is definitely there. Ask Andre 3000, he’ll tell ya (though Andre did it better). Lyrically, as well. I gotta’ tip my hat to Kendrick as far as the lyricism goes. But if I could explain the overall sound of this album in three words, I’d say “Outkast meets Drake”. Which brings me to my next problem with Kendrick. The voice he uses and the often whiney cadence he raps with is reminiscent of the signature Young Money style. The flow and lyrics are lightyears ahead of any Young Money artist, but the hipster image is still there. Lets not pretend like it isn’t, because it’s borderline hipster rap. The technical aspects of his rapping skills are all on point, and I thought the album was solid. Some stand-out tracks include “Good Kid”, “m.A.A.d City” (nice to see MC Eiht on the album), “Money Trees”, “The Art of Peer Pressure”, to name a few. But sorry to those hailing it as a masterpiece and claiming the album “the return of the west coast”…because you’re wrong, to put it politely. FINAL RATING: 7.5/10
Some stuff I agree with, some I don't
Rating is right tho. And a 7.5/10 album is enough to get plenty buzz, but not enough to get universal recognition (broadly meaning listeners outside the typical demographic).
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agreed with almost everything that was said. Not really a "west coast" sound and Kendrick while being a very dope technical MC there is definitely something missing IMO
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No way possible it sounds like Atlanta. Closest would be "Swimming pools" but even that doesn't sound hype enough...that's just modern Mike Will/40 style at most.
There's a lot of Outkast 96 influence on this album so I can see where the author of that post NIK sited got the Atlanta vibe from.
However I'm past the whole "well it isn't a west coast sounding album so I have to take it down a notch or two" phase. Kendrick put together and pulled off a great conceptual HIP-HOP album.
Too soon to call it a classic, however this album will probably join that conversation in a few years.
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Right, I decided to give this a listen. It sounds better than it did when I listened to the snippets. Its' a very cohesive album, and i mean very cohesive. Alot of of the beats are very similar and get boring. Standout tracks are Bitch, Dant Kill My Vibe, Backstreet Freestyle (hate the hook though) Money Trees and M.A.D.D. City. Infact, M.A.D.D. City is extremely dope. Compton would of been dope without the irritating hook. Classic this is not going to be. I give it a 3/5.
The snippits don't do it justice. I skimmed through the tracks at work and was initially let down by 5-10 second clips, however when I had the time to listen to the album in it's entirety I was blown away. The songs make more sense in the context of the album.
This shit is a cure for insomnia ...Boring as fuck....What the hell did I just listen to ? This is barely even rap .. Not even close to west coast bangin' shit that shouldbe released under Dr Dre's label..This is the type of shit that we don't neeed. :( :( :(
It's also a breath air from the same old shit that's been coming out the west for years. I love the old west coast sound as many on this board do, however people hating on this album purely based on it not being "West Coast Enough" need to get it through their head that this is a HIP-HOP album, not a West Coast Gangsta Rap album. Want that Gangsta Shit, buy the new Daz album where he talks about the streets for the 56,985th time.
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By the way, those looking for alternate album covers for this album should go here. This guy does a great job with creating them; I've used a couple for Curren$ey albums.
http://jonesfactory.tumblr.com/
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Sounds familiar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVt3MVN-Fhk#!
which song on the album is supposed to sound like that beat?
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Sounds familiar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVt3MVN-Fhk#!
which song on the album is supposed to sound like that beat?
Similar to the 2nd beat on m.A.A.d City. Well, kind of.
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After first impression, spin 1, I'm undecided. It's good but not great. A very mellow feel to it and nothing gets me really amped. I listened for production value mostly first time, content likes lyrics second and after.
Production is smooth but not very aggressive. Can be slow and plodding at times.
After what we got from Xzibit, that was a west-coast monster on STEROIDS so this kinda pales in comparison. Xzibit was big and epic, this is quieter and more mysterious. Hmmmm
EDIT: Also Xzibit's album sounds more Dr. Dre influenced than Kendrick's
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/kendrick-lamar-vibes-out-in-the-studio-with-dr-dre-andre-3000-20121019
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Sounds familiar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVt3MVN-Fhk#!
which song on the album is supposed to sound like that beat?
Similar to the 2nd beat on m.A.A.d City. Well, kind of.
The 2nd beat on m.A.A.d City is a replay of Ice Cube's "Bird in the Hand"... Kendrick even starts the verse off with the same lyrics as Cube -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYnMTVsxgI
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Sounds familiar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVt3MVN-Fhk#!
which song on the album is supposed to sound like that beat?
Similar to the 2nd beat on m.A.A.d City. Well, kind of.
wow... reachin.. ;D
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No way possible it sounds like Atlanta. Closest would be "Swimming pools" but even that doesn't sound hype enough...that's just modern Mike Will/40 style at most.
you ever listen to Outkast, Slimm Calhoun, Dungeon Family, etc? very similar style..even Ludacris on his more laid back cuts like "Blueberry Yum Yum"
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No way possible it sounds like Atlanta. Closest would be "Swimming pools" but even that doesn't sound hype enough...that's just modern Mike Will/40 style at most.
There's a lot of Outkast 96 influence on this album so I can see where the author of that post NIK sited got the Atlanta vibe from.
However I'm past the whole "well it isn't a west coast sounding album so I have to take it down a notch or two" phase. Kendrick put together and pulled off a great conceptual HIP-HOP album.
Too soon to call it a classic, however this album will probably join that conversation in a few years.
yea..i thought the Outkast influence in the album was pretty blatant. but it's not just that he lacks regional identity...he lacks identity overall. i guess the best way to explain it would be that he raps like he's just going through the verses, no true passion or energy of his own... i wouldn't call him a biter, but his sound is very borrowed. i don't think the album is bad, though.
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Kendrick is definitely an acquired taste. I had his whole discography, guest features and thought his style was very boring and bland. But when he released Cartoon & Cereal and couple of dope guest appearances, it made me dig again.
You really have to get through the initial stage and let the music soak in. It suddenly just clicked and I started to really like the music. He has his own persona, vibe, the way he crafts song. It's just very "out there". Reminds me of the sitcom Arrested Development. Hated it at first when watching 3,4 episodes but once I felt the vibe, I loved it.
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dudes flow fucking sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and hes always fucking with his voice cuz its super wack
NO HITS
NO VENOM
STRAIGHT PUSSY
i dont listen to fag boys rap to relax... i dont listen to rap to relax... i listen to real music....
dr.dre is clueless
why is dr.dre dropping all these verses like ANYONE wants to hear his monkey ass rap at 50!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!
we WANTED "your" beats you washed up roid boy pussy...
I CANT WAIT UNTIL DRE STOPS ABUSING ANABOLICS AND HIS TEST LEVELS DROP AND LEAVE HIM A WITHERED MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hes either gonna prune up like a raisin... or keep shooting juice until his heart explodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he deserves the WORST...
and you know you fucking suck when MC EIHT is the BEST part of your album... in 2012....
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Kendrick is definitely an acquired taste. I had his whole discography, guest features and thought his style was very boring and bland. But when he released Cartoon & Cereal and couple of dope guest appearances, it made me dig again.
You really have to get through the initial stage and let the music soak in. It suddenly just clicked and I started to really like the music. He has his own persona, vibe, the way he crafts song. It's just very "out there". Reminds me of the sitcom Arrested Development. Hated it at first when watching 3,4 episodes but once I felt the vibe, I loved it.
Agree 100%. Didnt like it at first, now its growing on me the structure of it, the sound, the mix and all. Kendricks voice and his offset flow annoys me at times, BUT not as much anymore. This is why he is unique, different and has his own style not like some artists.
Wish we had the "west sound feel" but from top the bottom this album was well done in my opinion. Solid.
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My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!
@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.
Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)
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How is it compared to Saigon album which was awesome.
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Those skits with his (real?) parents are so fucking annoying. Sound so contrived, like they're supposed to funny. Fuckoutttahere. By the way, is his real name Kendrick Duckworth?
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By the way, is his real name Kendrick Duckworth?
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Very good album, for a debut .
Production Tde in House .. OK
Just Blaze "Compton" track .. OK
Scoop Deville beats .. OK
Mc Eiht .. OK
DJ Dahi .. OK
Now, the Pharrell track, Drake feature ? WTF Drake is Complete rubbish.
I think Kendrick is deluded with this thing Dr Dre / Aftermath, is included in all albums released recently.
His image is wearing, their sound is losing focus, style.
You see him in Self Made vol2, in Drake's album, Tech 9nine album, Asap Rocky album, dj drama, dj khaled album.
He is closing with everyone in the music industry, and this is not good.
Mostly, the artists are not the West Coast.
After a time, with experience, after three albums, he might conclude partnerships
I did not see the young Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Too Short, E40 ..in the beginning of their careers, collaborating with everyone from the music industry.
Everyone created their own sound. his own legacy, before venturing into musical collabos.
But..in the end of a day, for Chill..his album is good ..
However, for me is not an album of West Coast rap
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I agree with the regional sound thing to a certain extent. I think classic albums either have to capture a regional sound, or a certain time. They have to be a representation or a reflection of a time or place (or both). The Chronic is a good example of capturing both a time and place (LA Riots). I was 9 when it came out so I don't really know what the cultural impact was in LA when it came out (other that what I've read or heard). But look at Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday". That's a classic album to many people. It didn't really sound westcoast, but it definitely is a good representation of the ealry/mid nineties. Kendricks album may be a defining 2012 album, but we won't really know for like 5 years.
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I agree with the regional sound thing to a certain extent. I think classic albums either have to capture a regional sound, or a certain time. They have to be a representation or a reflection of a time or place (or both). The Chronic is a good example of capturing both a time and place (LA Riots). I was 9 when it came out so I don't really know what the cultural impact was in LA when it came out (other that what I've read or heard). But look at Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday". That's a classic album to many people. It didn't really sound westcoast, but it definitely is a good representation of the ealry/mid nineties. Kendricks album may be a defining 2012 album, but we won't really know for like 5 years.
I understand .
Black Sunday, even this is not sounding Westcoast.
But when i heard B-Real's voice I remember Wescoast.
Same thing with some tracks of Ras Kass "Soul On Ice".
I'm finding it hard to see in Kendrick, at least in this debut album.
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Classics aren't defined a week after they leak on the Internet by a handful of people who've heard them. As it is the term "classic" has hard time holding weight in a discussion because any album that people grew up listening to manages to somehow become a "classic" after a decade or so, no matter how flawed it is. I think regional sounds are overrated. A lot of Pac and Scarface's strongest material doesn't sit comfortably under a specific regional label. Rap fans, specifically those who grew up the 90's, have just become so accustomed to traditional sounds to the point where they bitch about it the moment rappers don't adher to them.
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But look at Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday". That's a classic album to many people. It didn't really sound westcoast, but it definitely is a good representation of the ealry/mid nineties.
Yeah, I think the main thing there is it's a really, really distinct sound, that no one else had... you could tell it was Cypress as soon as it came on the radio...
I think that's the problem with Kendrick - I wouldn't recognize his tracks on the radio in between any other tracks out right now,
same sort of keyboardy beats, generic voice...
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how the fuck can you even say if its a classic or not when the shit ain't even been out for a year yet :D i guess you were expecting that same old ring ding dong dr dre beats filled lyrics like low low hopping, chronic smoke blowing, khaki suit and chucks wearing shit huh ? ain't nobody that you think will save the west coast rapping about that shit anymore. look at the niggas on the forefront for the west coast right now. aint none of them niggas on that shit. that era is gone and done with.. game was the last nigga that pushed that shit and he still sounded like an east coast nigga. he knew that shit was done so he quickly got on his drake, rick ross wiz shit.. ain't no nigga thats popping for the west rapping about the shit you niggas expecting. go listen to some old shit if you wanna hear that shit. go pickup some old compton most wanted shit.. kendrick making music for a new generation of niggaz everywhere. his music is bigger than just west coast sounding rap. nobody thats popping in the game for the west coast is raping with that old dr dre & snoop 1 2 3 and to the 4 sound.. you ain't hear the shit nipsey, dom Kennedy,schoolboy Q, Ab soul, Jay Rock, Problem, tyga, Kid Ink and Casey Veggies rapping about ? ...i know im probably missing a couple people but these are the niggas on the forefront for the west now. they're the niggas being talked about and they're not on no low rider hopping, khaki suit wearing shit.. nipsey driving a drop top benz and wearing gucci shit.. if you buying these new niggas albums and expecting some dr dre sounding shit from 2001 don't waste your time.. these niggas are a different generation. all them niggas are in their early 20's. go buy some old albums if you wanna hear that type of music.. these new niggas is more focus on being MC's. the older west coast niggas were more focus on gangsta rap and that basically killed west coast rap when people got sick of the same shit over and over again.. niggas like TDE and nipsey built this shit back up with a different style and the west is now relevant again. thats why you see all these new west coast niggas on some different shit. kendrick is star in the making because the nigga is unique. when you hear compton you don't expect a lyrical rapper. you expect the same old gang banging, khaki suit wearing, drive by music shit. right now there's no typical sound from any coast. you got niggas from new york like asap rocky that don't sound like your typical eastcaost rapper. you got niggas like kidd kidd thats sign to 50. the nigga from the deep south (new orleans) but he spitting lyrical shit like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWiQMHHHO5c&feature=relmfu.. he don't sound like your typical down south rapper. listen man this not 1998 when every coast stuck to a certain sound. right now its just about making the music you feel is dope.young niggas, new generation. if you not with the young generation then go cop that new king t album. don't buy a kendrick lamar album and expect to hear some MC Ren shit on there. RBX still rapping right ? go cop his shit.
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well that's interesting. kinda ridiculous to argue on whether it's a classic or not just days after it leaked though. but whoever wrote that has some strong points. kendrick is definitely borderline hipster rap, as his most of the music coming from tde. and the lack of identity does bother me a bit too, kendrick flows great but he lacks charisma for now. i ordered the album on the strength of section .80 and the few extracts i heard but haven't listened to it yet though.
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My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!
@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.
Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)
lol... Someone is mad that my views don't match theirs. It's all good, buddy, it's just an opinion. See, I write for weserious.com now and I'm supposed to give my honest opinion, as a longtime hip-hop-head. Duno what that has to do with my own rappin career, but whatever makes u feel better about my article. One thing I will say though, comparing music done in million dollar studios mixed with top notch equipment by legendary producers to music made independently is not fair in any way, shape, or form. If L.A.M.B dropped on Aftermath with the same budget as Kendrick's shit, it would be album of the decade. That said, "Violence of tha Lambz" will slap, regardless, and most definitely have its own identity. As for "good kid MAAD city", you can usually tell if an album has classic potential upon the first couple spins... And this album does not.
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Great album, different time different people, I highly doubt that the kids that are bumping ASAP Rocky and dig Kendrick are like "man..this is wack it doesn't sound west coast" , people got over that really
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what people need to understand is when you put so much hype on an album it will rarely live up to the exception.. an album like detox will never live up too the exception because its been so hyped up so much that if 2 songs on there is not that good people will focus on those 2 songs because they were expecting something out of this world.. its probably best dre don't even drop that album. it will never live up to the hype.
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I agree with the regional sound thing to a certain extent. I think classic albums either have to capture a regional sound, or a certain time. They have to be a representation or a reflection of a time or place (or both). The Chronic is a good example of capturing both a time and place (LA Riots). I was 9 when it came out so I don't really know what the cultural impact was in LA when it came out (other that what I've read or heard). But look at Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday". That's a classic album to many people. It didn't really sound westcoast, but it definitely is a good representation of the ealry/mid nineties. Kendricks album may be a defining 2012 album, but we won't really know for like 5 years.
I think Cypress Hill created their own psychadelic sound, which became the stoner staple of the west coast. Plus, B-Real always had a very west coast flow. But youre right when u say special music also seems to be a reflection of time. The only manner in which this Kendrick record is a reflection of time is because it's similar in sound to a lot of the stuff coming out commercially nowadays. Certain songs even have a Kanye feel, some Drake, Lil Wayne, Tygaesque stuff.. More lyrical, of course, but cut from the same cloth.
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kendrick lamar generic voice???
WTF!!!
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Classics aren't defined a week after they leak on the Internet by a handful of people who've heard them. As it is the term "classic" has hard time holding weight in a discussion because any album that people grew up listening to manages to somehow become a "classic" after a decade or so, no matter how flawed it is. I think regional sounds are overrated. A lot of Pac and Scarface's strongest material doesn't sit comfortably under a specific regional label. Rap fans, specifically those who grew up the 90's, have just become so accustomed to traditional sounds to the point where they bitch about it the moment rappers don't adher to them.
Maybe not to you.. But some people want their west coast music to capture the feeling of their region. Pac's overall sound was west coast (very bay influenced), and Scrarface always had the Texas flow, don't think u can compare Kendricks lack of identity to them. As for labeling an album classic, like I said, u usually know if an album has classic potential the moment you hear it. For instance, everyone knew "2001" was classic the day it dropped. Now, there are exceptions, but i gotta say this album is not.
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how the fuck can you even say if its a classic or not when the shit ain't even been out for a year yet :D i guess you were expecting that same old ring ding dong dr dre beats filled lyrics like low low hopping, chronic smoke blowing, khaki suit and chucks wearing shit huh ? ain't nobody that you think will save the west coast rapping about that shit anymore. look at the niggas on the forefront for the west coast right now. aint none of them niggas on that shit. that era is gone and done with.. game was the last nigga that pushed that shit and he still sounded like an east coast nigga. he knew that shit was done so he quickly got on his drake, rick ross wiz shit.. ain't no nigga thats popping for the west rapping about the shit you niggas expecting. go listen to some old shit if you wanna hear that shit. go pickup some old compton most wanted shit.. kendrick making music for a new generation of niggaz everywhere. his music is bigger than just west coast sounding rap. nobody thats popping in the game for the west coast is raping with that old dr dre & snoop 1 2 3 and to the 4 sound.. you ain't hear the shit nipsey, dom Kennedy,schoolboy Q, Ab soul, Jay Rock, Problem, tyga, Kid Ink and Casey Veggies rapping about ? ...i know im probably missing a couple people but these are the niggas on the forefront for the west now. they're the niggas being talked about and they're not on no low rider hopping, khaki suit wearing shit.. nipsey driving a drop top benz and wearing gucci shit.. if you buying these new niggas albums and expecting some dr dre sounding shit from 2001 don't waste your time.. these niggas are a different generation. all them niggas are in their early 20's. go buy some old albums if you wanna hear that type of music.. these new niggas is more focus on being MC's. the older west coast niggas were more focus on gangsta rap and that basically killed west coast rap when people got sick of the same shit over and over again.. niggas like TDE and nipsey built this shit back up with a different style and the west is now relevant again. thats why you see all these new west coast niggas on some different shit. kendrick is star in the making because the nigga is unique. when you hear compton you don't expect a lyrical rapper. you expect the same old gang banging, khaki suit wearing, drive by music shit. right now there's no typical sound from any coast. you got niggas from new york like asap rocky that don't sound like your typical eastcaost rapper. you got niggas like kidd kidd thats sign to 50. the nigga from the deep south (new orleans) but he spitting lyrical shit like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWiQMHHHO5c&feature=relmfu.. he don't sound like your typical down south rapper. listen man this not 1998 when every coast stuck to a certain sound. right now its just about making the music you feel is dope.young niggas, new generation. if you not with the young generation then go cop that new king t album. don't buy a kendrick lamar album and expect to hear some MC Ren shit on there. RBX still rapping right ? go cop his shit.
Where do you see anything about khakis or gangsta rap? Looks like you're making your own assumptions to me. You can represent a region through sound with many different styles, it doesn't have to be that shit everyone subconsciously keeps referring to when they hear "west coast rap"
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After first impression, spin 1, I'm undecided. It's good but not great. A very mellow feel to it and nothing gets me really amped. I listened for production value mostly first time, content likes lyrics second and after.
Production is smooth but not very aggressive. Can be slow and plodding at times.
After what we got from Xzibit, that was a west-coast monster on STEROIDS so this kinda pales in comparison. Xzibit was big and epic, this is quieter and more mysterious. Hmmmm
EDIT: Also Xzibit's album sounds more Dr. Dre influenced than Kendrick's
Having Dre attached to this project gave it the "it absolutely has to sound west coast or else I'll hate on it" stigma that has infected this board.
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
We'll find out in a week and a half about the numbers part, but people are going to be hard pressed to find a negative review from any critic (one that gets paid, not one that posts on message boards).
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Pharrell on GKMC
Kendrick Lamar is this era's Bob Dylan. Masterful story telling. Listen to it, it will elevate you. And just like that music has changed. Sick hooks, beats, perspective and zero MSG. Individuality always wins.
https://twitter.com/Pharrell/status/259315025477500928
https://twitter.com/Pharrell/status/259316260154785794
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
We'll find out in a week and a half about the numbers part, but people are going to be hard pressed to find a negative review from any critic (one that gets paid, not one that posts on message boards).
Paid critics are overrated .. The credibility of ones opinion has more to do with how much knowledge they possess as opposed to how much they make. Message board heads opinions do not mean less, because message board heads are the consumer. Their opinion counts just as much as any.
The majority of peeps like this album, yea.. But there are those who aint feelin it as much for whatever reason, and they all make credible arguments
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
We'll find out in a week and a half about the numbers part, but people are going to be hard pressed to find a negative review from any critic (one that gets paid, not one that posts on message boards).
That's just my point though, this ain't gangsta rap. Snoop, Cube, none of them cats is coming through that building next week. This is a changing of the guard.
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Paid critics are overrated .. The credibility of ones opinion has more to do with how much knowledge they possess as opposed to how much they make. Message board heads opinions do not mean less, because message board heads are the consumer. Their opinion counts just as much as any.
In that case...
Go to other hip-hop boards and check out the reception there. The album is getting an overwhelming amount of favorable reviews from people that have heard it. This album has the potential to be a game changer for the west coast.
This is a changing of the guard.
It's exactly what the West Coast needed. Dre in the background, no ego-obsessed West Coast OG's trying to be all over the album. Hopefully the torch has now been passed to Kendrick.
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I love it. It's all west at the end of the day and it is great to see artists out here staying true to their craft and style then trying to conform to get heard.
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I listened to this 5 or 6 times and can say it's the best hip-hop album this year. Good for Interscope for letting Kendrick have creative control. The worst song on this album is, ironically, "Compton." The whole album almost flows perfectly (Poetic Justice sounds a bit out of place and Compton just sounds like it was thrown there at the end). I think it would have ended perfectly with "I'm Dying Of Thirst"
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Figures the kid who still acts like it's 1997 has something to say about this album.
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The days of representing a coast or a region are over, its all about bringing good music to the table , I think 90% of dubcc are either stuck in a era that will never come back or they just got into gangsta rap since they were too young to vibe to it when it was poppin...Kendrick is bigger than west coast, he is HIPHOP
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The days of representing a coast or a region are over, its all about bringing good music to the table , I think 90% of dubcc are either stuck in a era that will never come back or they just got into gangsta rap since they were too young to vibe to it when it was poppin...Kendrick is bigger than west coast, he is HIPHOP
on point
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I listened to this 5 or 6 times and can say it's the best hip-hop album this year. Good for Interscope for letting Kendrick have creative control. The worst song on this album is, ironically, "Compton." The whole album almost flows perfectly (Poetic Justice sounds a bit out of place and Compton just sounds like it was thrown there at the end). I think it would have ended perfectly with "I'm Dying Of Thirst"
Black Boy Fly would have been a good ending also, but still good the way it is
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I listened to this 5 or 6 times and can say it's the best hip-hop album this year. Good for Interscope for letting Kendrick have creative control. The worst song on this album is, ironically, "Compton." The whole album almost flows perfectly (Poetic Justice sounds a bit out of place and Compton just sounds like it was thrown there at the end). I think it would have ended perfectly with "I'm Dying Of Thirst"
Black Boy Fly would have been a good ending also, but still good the way it is
Yeah, that would make sense too. The skit at the end of Dying of Thirst reminds me of that Maya Angelou story she told about meeting Pac at the Poetic Justice set. The old lady even sounds like Maya (is that her????)
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Paid critics are overrated .. The credibility of ones opinion has more to do with how much knowledge they possess as opposed to how much they make. Message board heads opinions do not mean less, because message board heads are the consumer. Their opinion counts just as much as any.
In that case...
Go to other hip-hop boards and check out the reception there. The album is getting an overwhelming amount of favorable reviews from people that have heard it. This album has the potential to be a game changer for the west coast.
The reception here was great, as well. most people here liked it. I thought it was good, too. Just not a game changer.
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The days of representing a coast or a region are over, its all about bringing good music to the table , I think 90% of dubcc are either stuck in a era that will never come back or they just got into gangsta rap since they were too young to vibe to it when it was poppin...Kendrick is bigger than west coast, he is HIPHOP
it's not about representing a coast, it's about having a sound that identifies with a region. jay-z has it. kanye has it. t.i has it. nas has it. even lil wayne has it. the top rappers, even of today, all have a sound that captures their region. they express themselves and identify with who they are, and the place, the pace, and lifestyle of where u grow up has a lot to do with who u are as a person. kendrick lamar does not express that and can't capture that specific aspect through his music. he's more about the message than he is about the sound, if that makes sense. some peeps might like that. some peeps might not even care for regional sounds at all, and could care less if hip-hop was intertwined as one. but for those interested in preserving regional sounds that touch the soul in hip-hop, this is a step in the opposite direction. thats all it really is. not sayin it's a bad record.
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
whether you like it or not niggaz like gucci mane, waka flocka,chief keef, young jeezy,rick ross, meek mill have ALL kept the streets in hip hop. sorry brah but your wrong. Hip-hop is the streets.
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The days of representing a coast or a region are over, its all about bringing good music to the table , I think 90% of dubcc are either stuck in a era that will never come back or they just got into gangsta rap since they were too young to vibe to it when it was poppin...Kendrick is bigger than west coast, he is HIPHOP
(Let me preface what I'm going to write by clarifying that this post is not about Kendrick Lamar's album per se).
Based on what you wrote, that's why hip hop is dead. Back in the day, if you couldn't hold down your own region, you were considered wack, forget about blowing up to larger national acceptance. None other than Dr. Dre said it's important for an artist to have regional appeal.
"Kendrick is bigger than west coast, he is HIPHOP" -- you're celebrating an artist being generic with that statement -- that an artist should just be Hip hop in general with no regional association in his music -- and imo there's nothing praiseworthy about being generic. Hip hop is truly dead if what you're saying is true.
I think 90% of dubcc are either stuck in a era that will never come back
Please, the West hasn't done G-Funk in 15 years, and it was only around for about 5 years. Fact is the current sound has been around in the mainstream much longer than G-Funk was around, so who's really stuck in a certain era? It ain't us old timers, that's for sure. If a big-budget artist did a honest-to-goodness G-Funk album in 2012 on a major label, it would sound brand new because he'd be making the kind of album that hasn't been made in 15 years -- that's what's fresh, NOT recycling the same contemporary generic sound of the day.
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^good points
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how the fuck can you even say if its a classic or not when the shit ain't even been out for a year yet :D i guess you were expecting that same old ring ding dong dr dre beats filled lyrics like low low hopping, chronic smoke blowing, khaki suit and chucks wearing shit huh ? ain't nobody that you think will save the west coast rapping about that shit anymore. look at the niggas on the forefront for the west coast right now. aint none of them niggas on that shit. that era is gone and done with.. game was the last nigga that pushed that shit and he still sounded like an east coast nigga. he knew that shit was done so he quickly got on his drake, rick ross wiz shit.. ain't no nigga thats popping for the west rapping about the shit you niggas expecting. go listen to some old shit if you wanna hear that shit. go pickup some old compton most wanted shit.. kendrick making music for a new generation of niggaz everywhere. his music is bigger than just west coast sounding rap. nobody thats popping in the game for the west coast is raping with that old dr dre & snoop 1 2 3 and to the 4 sound.. you ain't hear the shit nipsey, dom Kennedy,schoolboy Q, Ab soul, Jay Rock, Problem, tyga, Kid Ink and Casey Veggies rapping about ? ...i know im probably missing a couple people but these are the niggas on the forefront for the west now. they're the niggas being talked about and they're not on no low rider hopping, khaki suit wearing shit.. nipsey driving a drop top benz and wearing gucci shit.. if you buying these new niggas albums and expecting some dr dre sounding shit from 2001 don't waste your time.. these niggas are a different generation. all them niggas are in their early 20's. go buy some old albums if you wanna hear that type of music.. these new niggas is more focus on being MC's. the older west coast niggas were more focus on gangsta rap and that basically killed west coast rap when people got sick of the same shit over and over again.. niggas like TDE and nipsey built this shit back up with a different style and the west is now relevant again. thats why you see all these new west coast niggas on some different shit. kendrick is star in the making because the nigga is unique. when you hear compton you don't expect a lyrical rapper. you expect the same old gang banging, khaki suit wearing, drive by music shit. right now there's no typical sound from any coast. you got niggas from new york like asap rocky that don't sound like your typical eastcaost rapper. you got niggas like kidd kidd thats sign to 50. the nigga from the deep south (new orleans) but he spitting lyrical shit like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWiQMHHHO5c&feature=relmfu.. he don't sound like your typical down south rapper. listen man this not 1998 when every coast stuck to a certain sound. right now its just about making the music you feel is dope.young niggas, new generation. if you not with the young generation then go cop that new king t album. don't buy a kendrick lamar album and expect to hear some MC Ren shit on there. RBX still rapping right ? go cop his shit.
use a fuckin' enter bar
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Great thread btw. R.I.P. gangsta rap
I dunno bout that much, but Kendrick has changed the game for the west coast.
Nah is dead as we know it. The music will always be around but the days of having a buzz like Kendrick's and doing numbers is dead as a doorknob
whether you like it or not niggaz like gucci mane, waka flocka,chief keef, young jeezy,rick ross, meek mill have ALL kept the streets in hip hop. sorry brah but your wrong. Hip-hop is the streets.
I said the music (hip hop) and the culture will always be around. The days of west coast hip hop being dominated in sales and the airwaves by gangsta rap is dead. And I am talking only about the west coast, not the south or the east.
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I shouldn't respond to this thread considering the review is from my website lol, but anyway...
I personally think TDE has created a new west sound, I always felt like the entire doesn't have west sound argument is weak. For example, me and my camp we rap and you can tell we are westcoast cats as soon as we start talking but we have never rapped over your stereotypical westcoast beats. I think Kendricks album sounds very westcoast, its just not the sound that most people are accustomed to. What makes Kendricks album so great is that he is coming from a non affilate perspective, he is basically a cat that didn't get put on a crip or blood hood but was still in the streets and still functioned with crips and bloods. Which I think is the story for a lot of cats out here in the west, you have a lot of non crips and bloods thats still in these streets that still get down and are not on some square shit. The content is west and nobody can say anything about that. I love the album and have been bumping it since i downloaded it and I might actually go buy it. This album is very westcoast, the west sound argument is very subjective...
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any1 have a link of that Collect Calls song?
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Maybe not to you.. But some people want their west coast music to capture the feeling of their region. Pac's overall sound was west coast (very bay influenced), and Scrarface always had the Texas flow, don't think u can compare Kendricks lack of identity to them. As for labeling an album classic, like I said, u usually know if an album has classic potential the moment you hear it. For instance, everyone knew "2001" was classic the day it dropped. Now, there are exceptions, but i gotta say this album is not.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree on that. Pac to me always had a considerably East Coast energy to him. Pac had a more aggressive edge than you usually got from most West Coast rappers. He was versatile enough to adapt to what was going on in California but even Digital Underground who were the group who put him on in the game, there is a West Coast style there that Pac can certainly mesh with but that's not the aura that he gives off. He's more brash like Naughty By Nature who again have funky enough beats of their own that they rhyme on a distinctly East Coast vibe. Even if you want to compare the artists he fucked with in his circle with hardcore styles. He sounds way more like Stretch from Bomb Squad or one of the Jersey-bred Outlawz members than someone like Spice-1 or Big Syke. He's universal enough to fit in because he's a strong artist but his 1994 era stuff is not regionalized at all to me. And while we're at it, would you really consider Eminem's "Marshall Mathers LP" or "The Eminem Show" to have a strong Detriot or Mid-West vibe to them?
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Pharrell on GKMC
Kendrick Lamar is this era's Bob Dylan.
Bob Dylan is this era's Bob Dylan
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Damn people falling apart coz someone made an album with a different sound or some personality, even tho its not THAT different
West Coast fans really are stuck in a rut
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
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Good album, i still like "Section.80" more though. Here's the songs that i'm really feelin'.
Sherane A.K.A. Master Splinter's Daughter
The Art Of Peer Pressure
Good Kid
M.A.A.D. City (feat. MC Eiht)
Swimming Pools
Black Boy Fly
Does anybody have "Collect Calls"? I really wanna hear it.
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What is this about some people saying Kendrick ain't got his own sound ? Go check all TDE albums, they all have this distinctive sound, that is also present through out GKMC. Especially Schoolboy Q and Ab Souls projects. Jay Rock was the one that was heavily westcoast influenced and even now he's creating this TDE sound with recent tracks like YOLA and his verse on Money Trees. They feed off each other. Follow Me Home was dope but it had some generic westcoast bangers that sounded outdated, watch his next album shit on it.
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Snoop, Cube, none of them cats is coming through that building next week. This is a changing of the guard.
Except Kendrick still needs to blow up though,
I don't know many non-hiphop fans who know who Kendrick Lamar is yet...
I know the buzz is big in hip-hop circles, but if that doesn't cross over to where most people know who he is,
then it will have just been a sort of flash in the pan thing...
that's what's fresh, NOT recycling the same contemporary generic sound of the day.
Word, that's my biggest problem with Kendrick, if I heard him on the radio, he just blends into all
the other stuff that's out now, just with flows that are little more complex.
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Dope album. Been on the repeat. No tracks skipped.
I love "Now or Never". I am surprised nobody mentioned it. One of the best feel good track i have ever heard.
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any1 have a link of that Collect Calls song?
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"Collect Calls" hasn't been leaked yet since that's on the itunes version. Retail has leaked, not itunes.
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Snoop, Cube, none of them cats is coming through that building next week. This is a changing of the guard.
Except Kendrick still needs to blow up though,
I don't know many non-hiphop fans who know who Kendrick Lamar is yet...
I know the buzz is big in hip-hop circles, but if that doesn't cross over to where most people know who he is,
then it will have just been a sort of flash in the pan thing...
that's what's fresh, NOT recycling the same contemporary generic sound of the day.
Word, that's my biggest problem with Kendrick, if I heard him on the radio, he just blends into all
the other stuff that's out now, just with flows that are little more complex.
Well said
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Very good album, for a debut .
Production Tde in House .. OK
Just Blaze "Compton" track .. OK
Scoop Deville beats .. OK
Mc Eiht .. OK
DJ Dahi .. OK
Now, the Pharrell track, Drake feature ? WTF Drake is Complete rubbish.
I think Kendrick is deluded with this thing Dr Dre / Aftermath, is included in all albums released recently.
His image is wearing, their sound is losing focus, style.
You see him in Self Made vol2, in Drake's album, Tech 9nine album, Asap Rocky album, dj drama, dj khaled album.
He is closing with everyone in the music industry, and this is not good.
Mostly, the artists are not the West Coast.
After a time, with experience, after three albums, he might conclude partnerships
40 ..in the beI did not see the young Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Too Short, Eginning of their careers, collaborating with everyone from the music industry.
Everyone created their own sound. his own legacy, before venturing into musical collabos.
But..in the end of a day, for Chill..his album is good ..
However, for me is not an album of West Coast rap
man shut the fuck up. you make no sense what so ever! dj quik dropped his first album in 1991. are you really trying to compare what dj quik did in 1991 to what kendrick is doing in 2012 ;D ;D dubbcnn got some of the dumbest forum members. use your damn common sense bro. first off labels back then wasn't giving rappers the budget they're giving them now. back then you didn't even need a hot single or radio play for these major labels to drop your album. the internet wasn't even popping yet. name one rapper in this era that dropped on a major label that didn't have at least 1 big feature or a big name producer ? times have changed. back then people weren't working with that many people outside their crew. certain west coast niggas wasn't even fucking with each other. i can't believe this dumb dumb just said I did not see the young Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Too Short, E40 ..in the beginning of their careers, collaborating with everyone from the music industry. ;D :D bro that was 21 years ago. kendrick is 25 years old :D do you honestly think it takes the same formula to put together a successful debut album in 2012. sorry but i have to call it how i see it. YOU SIR ARE A DUMB ASS!!!
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Great, now that this is out of the way maybe Kendrick Lamar & J. Cole can drop their joint mixtape or album now.
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this album needs more songs like now or never
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It's good to see The Game getting props on Black Boy Fly. This album is 100% West Coast, everything he raps about is Compton centric. TDE are molding there own sound as a soundbed for the West.Coast, its a changing of the guard.G Funk has been outdated for a long time, same with the 2001 sound. The track m.A.A.d City is dopest West Coast banger I've heard.in a long time but I wouldn't want an album full of that.
And lol at Nik thinking if he had a million dollar he could make an album as good as this. You couldn't even fuck with his music when he was independent. Talent makes good music, not money, and if you don't realise it, K Dot is 100x the artist you will ever be, in every sense of the word.
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WHOEVER MERGED MY 4 PAGE THREAD IS SENSELESS AS FUCK AND MUST NOT LIKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON DUBCC
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WHOEVER MERGED MY 4 PAGE THREAD IS SENSELESS AS FUCK AND MUST NOT LIKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON DUBCC
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :'(
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WHOEVER MERGED MY 4 PAGE THREAD IS SENSELESS AS FUCK AND MUST NOT LIKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON DUBCC
It was just your opinion about the album, did it really warrant its own thread?
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WHOEVER MERGED MY 4 PAGE THREAD IS SENSELESS AS FUCK AND MUST NOT LIKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON DUBCC
It was just your opinion about the album, did it really warrant its own thread?
it was also a separate discussion on regional sounds with its own article...and more importantly, it generated more traffic and discussion. that is how a message board works. if u have one thread on the biggest west coast release in years, how can u expect the board to thrive? this is a message board for different discussion to take place, not a dubcnn news site for perfect maintenance. this is not how dubcc was founded. back when shit like "man vs machine" dropped, u had countless threads about 1 album, along with an official discussion one. but take it from me, all the threads touching different topics is what kept the board with a strong flow of traffic....thats how message boards like wcc thrive. shit gets way too stale with this much restriction and lack of individual topics. bad business.
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this foo nikk is a straight bitch... pull ur skirt down already homie... kendrick dropped a sicc ass album... the story tellin on this album is fuccn CRAZY... the whole album flows together nice... i dont see y are u hating on k.dot when u need to look in the mirror n realize ur shit is beyond wack... no one will ever bump ur shit besides ur moms, or home boys, n thats if u even have any cuz it seems like u are on here all day... this shit is comedy... just shut ur cock holster n quit rappin homie... ur shit is WACK...
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this foo nikk is a straight bitch... pull ur skirt down already homie... kendrick dropped a sicc ass album... the story tellin on this album is fuccn CRAZY... the whole album flows together nice... i dont see y are u hating on k.dot when u need to look in the mirror n realize ur shit is beyond wack... no one will ever bump ur shit besides ur moms, or home boys, n thats if u even have any cuz it seems like u are on here all day... this shit is comedy... just shut ur cock holster n quit rappin homie... ur shit is WACK...
lol some1 gettin a lil extra mad because my opinion on the album aint the same as theirs. i never denied the album was sick. u got comprehension issues, my man? u didnt address anything i said about the album, ur just actin like a butthurt lil fanboy. don't get the facts twisted, L.A.M.B shit goes.. but that has absolutely nothin to do with kendrick lackin' regional sound. which is fine, if thats not what ur lookin for. but u cant tell me the first 2 minutes of "m.a.a.d city" doesn't sound exactly like a kanye song.
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Target has 2 more bonus tracks
County Building Blues and Swimming Pools Black Hippy Remix
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I shouldn't respond to this thread considering the review is from my website lol, but anyway...
I personally think TDE has created a new west sound, I always felt like the entire doesn't have west sound argument is weak. For example, me and my camp we rap and you can tell we are westcoast cats as soon as we start talking but we have never rapped over your stereotypical westcoast beats. I think Kendricks album sounds very westcoast, its just not the sound that most people are accustomed to. What makes Kendricks album so great is that he is coming from a non affilate perspective, he is basically a cat that didn't get put on a crip or blood hood but was still in the streets and still functioned with crips and bloods. Which I think is the story for a lot of cats out here in the west, you have a lot of non crips and bloods thats still in these streets that still get down and are not on some square shit. The content is west and nobody can say anything about that. I love the album and have been bumping it since i downloaded it and I might actually go buy it. This album is very westcoast, the west sound argument is very subjective...
good points, but dont u see how the sound is largely similar to a lot of the radio stuff nowadays?...elements borrowed from drake, wayne, kanye. the content is west, but thats where it ends. i dont hear anything west coast about his actual sound, outside of the occasional touches by dre (the 2nd half of the song "m.a.a.d city" was DEFINITELY produced by Dre, for instance, and thats the only song i'd say has a true west coast influence). what, aside from the content, gives u a west coast vibe about the sound of the album?
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Maybe not to you.. But some people want their west coast music to capture the feeling of their region. Pac's overall sound was west coast (very bay influenced), and Scrarface always had the Texas flow, don't think u can compare Kendricks lack of identity to them. As for labeling an album classic, like I said, u usually know if an album has classic potential the moment you hear it. For instance, everyone knew "2001" was classic the day it dropped. Now, there are exceptions, but i gotta say this album is not.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree on that. Pac to me always had a considerably East Coast energy to him. Pac had a more aggressive edge than you usually got from most West Coast rappers. He was versatile enough to adapt to what was going on in California but even Digital Underground who were the group who put him on in the game, there is a West Coast style there that Pac can certainly mesh with but that's not the aura that he gives off. He's more brash like Naughty By Nature who again have funky enough beats of their own that they rhyme on a distinctly East Coast vibe. Even if you want to compare the artists he fucked with in his circle with hardcore styles. He sounds way more like Stretch from Bomb Squad or one of the Jersey-bred Outlawz members than someone like Spice-1 or Big Syke. He's universal enough to fit in because he's a strong artist but his 1994 era stuff is not regionalized at all to me. And while we're at it, would you really consider Eminem's "Marshall Mathers LP" or "The Eminem Show" to have a strong Detriot or Mid-West vibe to them?
huh? big syke and pac always had a similar style to me. also, ray luv. he's another rapper who i always thought had a similar style to pac. then there are the west coast rappers influenced by pac...roscoe was one of 'em. that list could go on forever, though. and eminem undeniably has a mid-west sound. that whole shock-value/serial killer rap is a staple of detroit. u ever listen to esham? that was a bad example, my dude.
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What is this about some people saying Kendrick ain't got his own sound ? Go check all TDE albums, they all have this distinctive sound, that is also present through out GKMC. Especially Schoolboy Q and Ab Souls projects. Jay Rock was the one that was heavily westcoast influenced and even now he's creating this TDE sound with recent tracks like YOLA and his verse on Money Trees. They feed off each other. Follow Me Home was dope but it had some generic westcoast bangers that sounded outdated, watch his next album shit on it.
u dont hear the outkast influence? how bout the current top-40 hip-hop influence? i mean, dont get me wrong, he has partially developed a sound of his own, but he's still workin on developing his own SIGNATURE sound, if u feel where i'm comin from.
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
i cant stand drake or auto tune. so is there alot of auto tune on here>??????
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Target has 2 more bonus tracks
County Building Blues and Swimming Pools Black Hippy Remix
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Thanks.
Just cancelled my standard Deluxe order with amazon
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Is this the Final Deluxe Edition on Amazon or is it new Edition where can i buy it?
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fresh album 8) 8)
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Target has 2 more bonus tracks
County Building Blues and Swimming Pools Black Hippy Remix
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/10px2iu.jpg)
Thanks.
Just cancelled my standard Deluxe order with amazon
shame they dont ship overseas :(
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
i cant stand drake or auto tune. so is there alot of auto tune on here>??????
People need to get over the Drake thing. Captain Simp put Kendrick on his album and took him on tour, so it was obvious from the get go he'd be on the album. There's no Autotune on this album.
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dudes flow fucking sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and hes always fucking with his voice cuz its super wack
NO HITS
NO VENOM
STRAIGHT PUSSY
i dont listen to fag boys rap to relax... i dont listen to rap to relax... i listen to real music....
dr.dre is clueless
why is dr.dre dropping all these verses like ANYONE wants to hear his monkey ass rap at 50!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!
we WANTED "your" beats you washed up roid boy pussy...
I CANT WAIT UNTIL DRE STOPS ABUSING ANABOLICS AND HIS TEST LEVELS DROP AND LEAVE HIM A WITHERED MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hes either gonna prune up like a raisin... or keep shooting juice until his heart explodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he deserves the WORST...
and you know you fucking suck when MC EIHT is the BEST part of your album... in 2012....
LMFAO
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Target has 2 more bonus tracks
County Building Blues and Swimming Pools Black Hippy Remix
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/10px2iu.jpg)
Thanks.
Just cancelled my standard Deluxe order with amazon
shame they dont ship overseas :(
What's the plan Will? If you've got a way around it let me know cos I'd rather get my hands on that one as well
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Wow this album is the most overrated piece of shit I heard in a long time. Shit was boooooooorrrrrring....
Tell him Devin and Outkast want their style back....
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Wow this album is the most overrated piece of shit I heard in a long time. Shit was boooooooorrrrrring....
Tell him Devin and Outkast want their style back....
didnt think of that....there are traces of devin in his style, as well.
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Wow this album is the most overrated piece of shit I heard in a long time. Shit was boooooooorrrrrring....
Tell him Devin and Outkast want their style back....
Wow... lol this is some hipster rap for Sure. NIKCC is this what kids be listening to these days?
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
i cant stand drake or auto tune. so is there alot of auto tune on here>??????
People need to get over the Drake thing. Captain Simp put Kendrick on his album and took him on tour, so it was obvious from the get go he'd be on the album. There's no Autotune on this album.
well i cant stand drake, dude is terrible (worse than wayne)... but if there is no auto-tune then the rest of the album could be promising.
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Target has 2 more bonus tracks
County Building Blues and Swimming Pools Black Hippy Remix
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/10px2iu.jpg)
Thanks.
Just cancelled my standard Deluxe order with amazon
shame they dont ship overseas :(
What's the plan Will? If you've got a way around it let me know cos I'd rather get my hands on that one as well
I'll wait for one to turn up on eBay. Got the Best Buy exclusive of Snoops Lost Sessions on there so I'm guessing someone will pick up a few to sell for a bit of extra $$
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
i cant stand drake or auto tune. so is there alot of auto tune on here>??????
People need to get over the Drake thing. Captain Simp put Kendrick on his album and took him on tour, so it was obvious from the get go he'd be on the album. There's no Autotune on this album.
well i cant stand drake, dude is terrible (worse than wayne)... but if there is no auto-tune then the rest of the album could be promising.
If there was 5 seconds of autotune you'd immediately hate on the album? :grumpy:
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Album is definitely beyond "good". Reviews are coming out and the lowest I've seen has been a 4/5.
http://allhiphop.com/2012/10/19/album-review-kendrick-lamars-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/oct/21/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-review
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/52714/Kendrick-Lamar-good-kid,-m.A.A.d-city/
http://theversed.com/2012/10/20/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city-album-review/
http://www.djbooth.net/index/albums/review/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city#review
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NIK i agree w you that it does not seem to have a regional sound and that is not a good thing imo
It has I guess what youd call a mainstream sound, which just borrows from south type of rap and tones it down a little
For me personally, its not that im close minded or want it to be 1995 again, but I would want something a little more original production wise to be able to call it a classic
edit - oh and its not a bad album, just not a great album
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It has I guess what youd call a mainstream sound, which just borrows from south type of rap and tones it down a little
Word, that's a good description of it...
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NIK i agree w you that it does not seem to have a regional sound and that is not a good thing imo
It has I guess what youd call a mainstream sound, which just borrows from south type of rap and tones it down a little
For me personally, its not that im close minded or want it to be 1995 again, but I would want something a little more original production wise to be able to call it a classic
edit - oh and its not a bad album, just not a great album
good post
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Wow this album is the most overrated piece of shit I heard in a long time. Shit was boooooooorrrrrring....
Tell him Devin and Outkast want their style back....
haven't listened the album but i can't really see the common points between Kendrick and Devin... Kendrick's not as laid back as Devin and his lyrics are far more articulate and elaborate to the point it sounds snubbish, on some hipster shit. whereas Devin just doesn't give a fuck plain and simple, he raps about weed and hoes and that's it. and that's what he's good at.
i would compare Kendrick to peeps like Childish Gambino, except that he's way better than the latter (who is good)
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NIK i agree w you
good post
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i havent heard it, im still debating whether im gonna buy this or not.... i dont like seeing a drake feature. cuz thats one song that will be a auto-skip... and how much auto tune is on here????? if its all over i dont wanna hear it even
It's not any where near what you're preconceiving ;)
Albums nice and the drake feature is still a good track IMO
i cant stand drake or auto tune. so is there alot of auto tune on here>??????
People need to get over the Drake thing. Captain Simp put Kendrick on his album and took him on tour, so it was obvious from the get go he'd be on the album. There's no Autotune on this album.
well i cant stand drake, dude is terrible (worse than wayne)... but if there is no auto-tune then the rest of the album could be promising.
If there was 5 seconds of autotune you'd immediately hate on the album? :grumpy:
5 seconds not so bad, 5 seconds in multiple songs would be bad... u know what im sayin
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GKMC just received an XXL rating from the Magazine
http://www.xxlmag.com/reviews/2012/10/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city/
Kendrick Lamar is keen to capture his adolescent years’ volatile mind frame by reminiscing, accepting and sharing his inner demons and bitter memories. Even more so than his remarkable independent releases, Overly Dedicated and Section 80, good kid, m.A.A.d city is a true display of his meticulousness nature. The quality of precision shows in the music, the lyrics, the concepts, and the structure, making the Compton native’s debut one of the most cohesive bodies of work in recent rap memory.
It starts with a recording of a prayer, and fades in on a 17-year-old Kendrick, whose focus in life is pillaging of “pussy.” Fluidly dashing and pausing over a nocturnal backdrop, K-Dot’s lustful mind frame only awakes with the encounter of two gang bangers. Just like that, the anecdotal intro, “Sherane a.k.a. Master Splinter’s Daughter,” which creates the mise en scène for the album, cuts into the first of many voicemail recordings (essentially interludes) from Kendrick’s mother and father. Not only do these voicemails adjoin the plotline, but they also aid as reminders for young Lamar to stray from the street life, serving as yin to the violence-driven yang of Compton.
It’s crucial to note throughout the majority of good kid, m.A.A.d city, Kendrick Lamar plays himself as a 17-year-old teenager, who’s driving around Los Angeles in his mother’s caravan with his gang-affiliated homies. This narrative is the mainstay throughout the project. It accentuates a sense of excitement, shedding light on a side of the talented wordsmith that hasn’t been dissected until now. Starting with “Backseat Freestyle,” with its bigmouth, punch-line antics over a thumping Hit-Boy production, this is a pre-fame MC who’s foolishly blazing off raps with friends. It doesn’t, however, means the flow is elementary or his quotable are shabby; he channels multiple voices and executes crisp-clean double- and triple-time bonanza with ease.
But fun and games aren’t the only elements that constitute a young Kendrick’s late-night escapade. On “The Art of Peer Pressure”—a spacious, internal monologue—he highlights the rowdy behaviors he displays in front of his friends, while having an almost opposite sentiment inside his psyche. This thought further explores on a more in-depth lane on “good kid,” in which the first-two verses discuss the allure and fear administered by—quite ironically—gangs and police sirens that both flaunt colors red and blue.
The album reaches a creative and cinematic climax on “m.A.A.d city.” Whether it was meant to depict his puberty or the panting sufferings of reality, K.L. purposely tweaks his voice into a higher pitch, and frantically describes the “mad” elements of Compton. Gun-driven, gang violence widespread throughout the ‘hood has become a part of Kendrick’s DNA. It’s a tempting draw, even when he attempts to fight it. And toward the end of this epic, the rapper epitomizes his lineage claiming that he’s an “angel,” who was made on “angel dust.”
After the violence subsides, Kendrick leads the “short film” near its epilogue on “Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst.” The first-two verses speak from the perspectives of siblings as subjects that Kendrick touches on current and previous albums. It’s a tearjerker, and an impressive delivery of emotions that can’t help but let the listeners visualize empathetic portraits of those gunned down and faded away.
While Kendrick rolls deep, affiliated with TDE and Aftermath, there’s not a bevy of features. All of the guest appearances on the project assist as cameos with fitting roles. Drake on the suave, love serenade “Poetic Justice,” Jay Rock on the tale of hustler’s ambitions in “Money Trees,” MC Eiht serving OG knowledge on “m.A.A.d city,” and Dr. Dre passing the torch to Kendrick on “Compton” all serve a thematic purpose. None of their names or verses outshines the star of the movie. They’re all knitted into the drape known as good kid, m.A.A.d city, helping to mold a fuller image.
Overall, good kid, m.A.A.d city is an invigorating LP. Every record is both complexly arranged and sonically fitting, foregrounding Kendrick’s vivid lyricism and amazing control of cadence. There’s not a single loophole. From the prayers on “Sherane a.k.a. Master Splinter’s Daughter” to the triumphant ending on “Compton,” each skit and track interweaves one another, solidifying a complete picture. While only time can determine the album’s fate, this life chronicle of Kendrick has all—if not more—of the qualities rap’s now living and deceased legends have carved in stone. It’s an undeniably stellar major label debut from Kendrick Lamar, which will certainly hurt the self-esteem of many rappers out now while also inspiring them to reach these heights.
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5 seconds not so bad, 5 seconds in multiple songs would be bad... u know what im sayin
There's no autotune. It is a great album, reviews keep pouring in. Glad to see someone on the west coast finally get some shine and mainstream critical acclaim.
Pitchfork's review is below. 9.5 out of 10
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17253-good-kid-maad-city/
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5 seconds not so bad, 5 seconds in multiple songs would be bad... u know what im sayin
There's no autotune. It is a great album, reviews keep pouring in. Glad to see someone on the west coast finally get some shine and mainstream critical acclaim.
Pitchfork's review is below. 9.5 out of 10
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17253-good-kid-maad-city/
Damn they losing it over the album. 7.5/10 at best, and I'm a fan of it
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http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/shyne-disses-kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-on-twitter-calls-album-trash
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Shyne is calling his album trash because k.dot is doing something that puffy,dre,snoop,jay,nas,game did...you know what the fuck im talking about.
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http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/shyne-disses-kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-on-twitter-calls-album-trash
Ironic given the same could be said about Shyne's flow since he was released from jail
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http://www.aftermathmusic.com/blog/2012/10/23/gkmc-200k-in-the-1st-week/
225-240k first week sales = impressive 8)
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http://www.aftermathmusic.com/blog/2012/10/23/gkmc-200k-in-the-1st-week/
225-240k first week sales = impressive 8)
isnt that first week really one day? since it dropped on a monday?
imagine if it dropped on a tuesday and had its full weeks worth...
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5 seconds not so bad, 5 seconds in multiple songs would be bad... u know what im sayin
There's no autotune. It is a great album, reviews keep pouring in. Glad to see someone on the west coast finally get some shine and mainstream critical acclaim.
Pitchfork's review is below. 9.5 out of 10
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17253-good-kid-maad-city/
Damn they losing it over the album. 7.5/10 at best, and I'm a fan of it
agreed
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Shyne is calling his album trash because k.dot is doing something that puffy,dre,snoop,jay,nas,game did...you know what the fuck im talking about.
lmao, shyne goin all out with the jew shit
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http://www.aftermathmusic.com/blog/2012/10/23/gkmc-200k-in-the-1st-week/
225-240k first week sales = impressive 8)
isnt that first week really one day? since it dropped on a monday?
imagine if it dropped on a tuesday and had its full weeks worth...
naah, thats actually a week and a day sales...projection. would be insane if it did those numbers in a day. well, 200+ is already insane nowadays, but in one day would almost be some record shit.
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Review from Grandland
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/60251/bright-lights-mad-city-kendrick-lamar-is-about-to-release-the-best-rap-album-of-the-year
This part stuck out for me:
Earlier this year, Top Dawg and its members agreed to a deal with Interscope Records and Dre’s Aftermath imprint. It has been six years since Aftermath released a non-Eminem or 50 Cent album and nine and a half since it broke an artist. In the context of one-time kingmaker Dr. Dre’s track record, this deal and the actual, non-stalled, in-stores-we-swear release of good kid amounts to a music industry miracle. (Ask King Tee, Hittman, RBX, Rakim, Stat Quo, The Last Emperor, Joell Ortiz, Bishop Lamont, or any of the myriad artists that Dre has signed and benched to eternity about the label’s developmental history.)
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Review from Grandland
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/60251/bright-lights-mad-city-kendrick-lamar-is-about-to-release-the-best-rap-album-of-the-year
This part stuck out for me:
Earlier this year, Top Dawg and its members agreed to a deal with Interscope Records and Dre’s Aftermath imprint. It has been six years since Aftermath released a non-Eminem or 50 Cent album and nine and a half since it broke an artist. In the context of one-time kingmaker Dr. Dre’s track record, this deal and the actual, non-stalled, in-stores-we-swear release of good kid amounts to a music industry miracle. (Ask King Tee, Hittman, RBX, Rakim, Stat Quo, The Last Emperor, Joell Ortiz, Bishop Lamont, or any of the myriad artists that Dre has signed and benched to eternity about the label’s developmental history.)
Lol at that, so true
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Review from Grandland
and nine and a half since it broke an artist.
Wait, didn't Game drop in 2005? So that's like 7 years since they broke an artist...
Still a long time though, LOL
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Review from Grandland
and nine and a half since it broke an artist.
Wait, didn't Game drop in 2005? So that's like 7 years since they broke an artist...
Still a long time though, LOL
Might have been referring to 50 Cent since GRODT started buzzing early 2003. Completely glossed over Game.
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My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!
@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.
Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)
lol... Someone is mad that my views don't match theirs. It's all good, buddy, it's just an opinion. See, I write for weserious.com now and I'm supposed to give my honest opinion, as a longtime hip-hop-head. Duno what that has to do with my own rappin career, but whatever makes u feel better about my article. One thing I will say though, comparing music done in million dollar studios mixed with top notch equipment by legendary producers to music made independently is not fair in any way, shape, or form. If L.A.M.B dropped on Aftermath with the same budget as Kendrick's shit, it would be album of the decade. That said, "Violence of tha Lambz" will slap, regardless, and most definitely have its own identity. As for "good kid MAAD city", you can usually tell if an album has classic potential upon the first couple spins... And this album does not.
Why you gotta always say some dumbshit NIK???!!! LAMB shouldn't be in the same sentence, let alone paragraph as KDOt. No offense, but even you must acknowledge the difference. Come on man, you know Kendrick was already dropping heat long before his association with Aftermath.
I do agree this isn't classic though...at least not yet. Just as foolish as people already proclaiming this is a classic is people already proclaiming it ISN'T one. It's too early. It doesn't have obvious standout tracks, but the cd as a whole is very impressive after multiple listens. It's a grower, kinda like Soul On Ice was for me when it dropped.
Kendrick may have some elements of his style borrowed(definitely, as you say, OUTKAST/Andre influence), but he's got so much of his own style as well. He's very versatile, and the most impressive part of this album is AFTERMATH didn't water it down like they did Slaughterhouse. Congrats to Kendrick for releasing an album that isn't generic and mainstream and reaching for obvious hits, or ladened with the typical westcoast sound (only nicely placed elements). Now let's let this shit breathe!
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My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!
@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.
Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)
lol... Someone is mad that my views don't match theirs. It's all good, buddy, it's just an opinion. See, I write for weserious.com now and I'm supposed to give my honest opinion, as a longtime hip-hop-head. Duno what that has to do with my own rappin career, but whatever makes u feel better about my article. One thing I will say though, comparing music done in million dollar studios mixed with top notch equipment by legendary producers to music made independently is not fair in any way, shape, or form. If L.A.M.B dropped on Aftermath with the same budget as Kendrick's shit, it would be album of the decade. That said, "Violence of tha Lambz" will slap, regardless, and most definitely have its own identity. As for "good kid MAAD city", you can usually tell if an album has classic potential upon the first couple spins... And this album does not.
Why you gotta always say some dumbshit NIK???!!! LAMB shouldn't be in the same sentence, let alone paragraph as KDOt. No offense, but even you must acknowledge the difference. Come on man, you know Kendrick was already dropping heat long before his association with Aftermath.
I do agree this isn't classic though...at least not yet. Just as foolish as people already proclaiming this is a classic is people already proclaiming it ISN'T one. It's too early. It doesn't have obvious standout tracks, but the cd as a whole is very impressive after multiple listens. It's a grower, kinda like Soul On Ice was for me when it dropped.
Kendrick may have some elements of his style borrowed(definitely, as you say, OUTKAST/Andre influence), but he's got so much of his own style as well. He's very versatile, and the most impressive part of this album is AFTERMATH didn't water it down like they did Slaughterhouse. Congrats to Kendrick for releasing an album that isn't generic and mainstream and reaching for obvious hits, or ladened with the typical westcoast sound (only nicely placed elements). Now let's let this shit breathe!
i fux with this cut over anything on Kendrick's album:
http://www.youtube.com/v/cLMppcK0Kfo
u aint gotta come at me like that over an opinion, son. and lo@saying people are foolish for saying this is not a classic... so we cant judge for ourselves? I still remember the day "2001" dropped.. every1 knew it was a classic, right off the bat... when Eminem dropped "Recovery", most people knew it wasn't a classic, right off the bat. now, am I comparing Kendrick's effort to those two albums? no. but the point of the matter is, u can usually tell an album's overall value after the first few spins...if i give it a 7.5/10 now, it's not guna be a 10/10 in 10 years...especially when we look back and realize that the overall sound of this album is very similar to a lot of the radio hits droppin over the past couple years.
and just for the record, Slaughterhouse didn't drop on Aftermath.
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Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?
It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.
This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.
Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."
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Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?
It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.
This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.
Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."
i get all that, my dude...and that fine, cuz its ur opinion. but i'd like to highly disagree with u when u say that theres no longer such thing as regional sound. Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
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Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
I don't know. I think the Xzibit album definitely caters to the more traditional West Coast sound that people expect. Not that that's a problem for me but I like that K. Dot is trying something different. I've only had a chance to hear "good kid m.A.A.d city" once so far but to me, it feels like a "game changer". Opinions are really all over the place but that's too be expected. Having heard it, I don't get your regional sound complaint either. The content sound unavoidably L.A., it just isn't the California hip-hop formula we've become accustomed to.
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Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?
It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.
This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.
Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."
i get all that, my dude...and that fine, cuz its ur opinion. but i'd like to highly disagree with u when u say that theres no longer such thing as regional sound. Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
Yeah there is still a regional sound, I guess I was trying to say its not as important as it used to be. K Dot wanted to make a universal album, rooted in Compton themes, to me he achievedthat. It will be interesting to see how the game is influenced by this album, hopefully it brings content back to the forefront.
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
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Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
I don't know. I think the Xzibit album definitely caters to the more traditional West Coast sound that people expect. Not that that's a problem for me but I like that K. Dot is trying something different. I've only had a chance to hear "good kid m.A.A.d city" once so far but to me, it feels like a "game changer". Opinions are really all over the place but that's too be expected. Having heard it, I don't get your regional sound complaint either. The content sound unavoidably L.A., it just isn't the California hip-hop formula we've become accustomed to.
i already agreed with the fact that the content is obviously very west coast.....but aside from content, there is nothing in terms of sound that makes it stick out as a west coast hip-hop album. some people dont mind, some people do. thats all it really comes down 2.
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classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
money
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
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Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
I don't really remember anyone jumping on the "Watch The Throne" album and hyping it to that degree. It certainly got strong reviews but I never read or any legitimate reviewers or publications suggesting it was an immediate classic.
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.
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There are a lot of classic albums that sound outdated or that are very year specific. It's not really a big deal. And the last album to receive this amount of praise was Kanye's solo album. If anything this one exceeds it. Tyler's Goblin was actually a let down to many people. Tyler had huge hype and Odd Future had a lot of momentum going into Goblin, especially when Yonkers came out but ultimately it didn't meet the hype. Good Kid Maad City not only had a lot of hype, but it met or exceeded a majority of people's expectations.
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.
Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" got this --
Pitchfork Media - 10/10
Rolling Stone 5/5
Slant Magazine 5/5
XXL - XXL
Robert Christgau - A
Entertainment Weekly - A
The Independent - 5/5
NME - 9/10
Spin 9/10
Allmusic - 4/5
The Guardian - 4/5
So that Kanye album got higher than Kendrick at a bunch of places, Pitchfork, NME, Rolling Stone, etc. and the same on XXL...
I'm not saying it like "Kanye is better than Kendrick", because I don't really like either (they're both ok though),
just to show that sometimes critics go crazy over stuff when it's first out...
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More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.
It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.
Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.
Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
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More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.
It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.
Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.
Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post ::)
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if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.
Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)
But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...
Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...
Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.
Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" got this --
Pitchfork Media - 10/10
Rolling Stone 5/5
Slant Magazine 5/5
XXL - XXL
Robert Christgau - A
Entertainment Weekly - A
The Independent - 5/5
NME - 9/10
Spin 9/10
Allmusic - 4/5
The Guardian - 4/5
So that Kanye album got higher than Kendrick at a bunch of places, Pitchfork, NME, Rolling Stone, etc. and the same on XXL...
I'm not saying it like "Kanye is better than Kendrick", because I don't really like either (they're both ok though),
just to show that sometimes critics go crazy over stuff when it's first out...
They clearly don't just crazy over everything that comes out or with a hype train though. The big fans of the Kanye West album still stand by it.
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More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.
It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.
Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.
Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post ::)
If you haven't stepped out the box then this LA music has passed you by, Snoop, Dr Dre, Game days are over. The new generation of LA music has arrived, Kendrick Lamar, JayRock, Ab-Soul, SchoolBoy Q, Nipsey Hussle, Dom Kennedy, Casey Veggies, Odd Future, Hopsin, Blu, Skeme, PacDiv, Thurz. Fresh new artist, that fit how LA really is now in 2012.
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More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.
It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.
Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.
Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post ::)
If you haven't stepped out the box then this LA music has passed you by, Snoop, Dr Dre, Game days are over. The new generation of LA music has arrived, Kendrick Lamar, JayRock, Ab-Soul, SchoolBoy Q, Nipsey Hussle, Dom Kennedy, Casey Veggies, Odd Future, Hopsin, Blu, Skeme, PacDiv, Thurz. Fresh new artist, that fit how LA really is now in 2012.
so Nipsey hustle and Jay Rock aren't gangsta rappers all of the sudden?? lol
and hopsins a gay.
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Wtf!!! Ya'll smoking dope Kendricks Album is a instant classic! This album is like boyz n the hood on a album epic fucking album beginning to end. If you think he's shit ain't classic kill ya self lol stop hate damn this album is undeniable.
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. If you think he's shit ain't classic kill ya self lol
Lmao