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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on December 14, 2012, 08:35:27 AM
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not even close...i mean wow i like kendrick but seriously wtf
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorials/id.2012/title.the-west-coast-illmatic-good-kid-maad-city-the-evolution-of-hip-hop-storytelling
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GKMC had better beats.
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even tho the Gap in Hip Hop has to be bridged its kind of like a catch 22 the way the media always tries to say you can either like 1 style or another.
i agree with u as far as comparing the two albums go, its rediculous. Kendrick should be compared to great Music, not a 9 track classic album from almost 20 years ago. in theiry theyre pretty close, but u'd have to take the best of the Deluxe Edition and coup it with "Cartoons & Cereal" to make it work
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the mods here are excellent.
as for "illmatic" vs "gkmc".....obviously, any1 comparing the 2 is either a.)and idiot b.)a 90s baby or c.)both
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
exactly, doggystyle shits on anything thats come out within the last 10 years
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:-\ im starting to dislike Kendrick based off the hype
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:-\ im starting to dislike Kendrick based off the hype
Hang in there
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It's gonna be looked at as this generations Illmatic.
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
You sound like my grandpa
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
You sound like my grandpa
maybe if your grandpa listens to songs about killing cops and fucking bitches
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
You sound like my grandpa
your grandpa's an og
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Can I be honest for a moment?
good kid maad city is an okay album that is mad overrated by people.
and so is illmatic (I'm a Nas fan btw).
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One huge difference is that Illmatic was written by a teenager. Kendrick is rapping about his teenage years, but is an adult..
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Can I be honest for a moment?
good kid maad city is an okay album that is mad overrated by people.
and so is illmatic (I'm a Nas fan btw).
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One huge difference is that Illmatic was written by a teenager. Kendrick is rapping about his teenage years, but is an adult..
Good point.
Internet fanboys tend to talk in extremes on this - "Album was WACK/TRASH, or album was GOAT/MASTERPIECE/FLAWLESS"
Kendricks album is a straight banger if you're a rap fan who appreciates the depth of writing, and construction of the sounds.
Others could easily call it boring if thats not their thing.
Kendricks also making waves outside genre fans with people who appreciate 'good' music. With word of mouth and media reviews he's killing it. This is a crossover record and I'm not talking bout pop. Do I think it's a 'GOAT' album or whatever? Not nearly. Classic? Probably not for me..but it's of the 'best' rap albums of 2012
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
precisely.
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
Word.
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
Wow talk about stuck in the past, take off your backpack and superman cape, Premos been dusty for a while now.
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
Wow talk about stuck in the past, take off your backpack and superman cape, Premos been dusty for a while now.
that is some ignorant new school bulshit you said . stop hating because what he said was true . premo will never be dusty. premo is too good to ever go dusty .
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
You sound like my grandpa
your grandpa's an og
Love bro
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GKMC had better beats.
Excuse me? One Premo beat is worth more than the whole Kendrick album.
Wow talk about stuck in the past, take off your backpack and superman cape, Premos been dusty for a while now.
that is some ignorant new school bulshit you said . stop hating because what he said was true . premo will never be dusty. premo is too good to ever go dusty .
Even the best fall off bro, Premos' had the same sound for too long now, where's the innovation? His production discography is one of the best in hip hop but you'd have to be closed minded to think he is still on top of the game beatwise
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I'm 37 years old. Nas is easily in my top 3 of all time, might even be #1. Still, I think "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" may very well be better than any album Nas ever put out. Sure, one shouldn't judge an album too early, it may not stand the test of time. I believe this one will, though. On the flipside, I think one should also try not to put classic albums on too much of a pedestal. Yes, they are classics for a reason, but a large part of it is also nostalgia and the time it was part of. Doggystyle might be my favourite hip-hop album of all time, but would I rank it that high if it was released today? I'm not sure...
u couldnt be more off....if doggystyle was released today, it would be even better, since there is no music of that caliber being released nowadays, whereas there was great shit droppin left and right when doggsytyle came out.
:D
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8)
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the mods here are excellent.
as for "illmatic" vs "gkmc".....obviously, any1 comparing the 2 is either a.)and idiot b.)a 90s baby or c.)both
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LOL @ topic. Memory Lane >>> anything on that overrated nonsense. The intro Genesis harder than anything this nigga will ever make. That said Sik rite tho cuz Illmatic overrated by people too but its still lightyears ahead of KL shit.
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was illmatic compared to anything when it came out?
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not even close...i mean wow i like kendrick but seriously wtf
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorials/id.2012/title.the-west-coast-illmatic-good-kid-maad-city-the-evolution-of-hip-hop-storytelling
yeah dude ! wut are these "PAID Critics" thinking, I mean we @ dubcnn forums already called it wack-a-doo ! :'(
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:-\... You are some wierd ass dudes on everything, answer fucking quest is it comparable hell yeah it is take ya'll feelings & hate out of it ain't nobody sayin it's better n shit it's comparable that's all Kendrick is my favorite rapper & Nas is the greatest MC of all time to me I personally don't like his debut album I think some of his other albums easily tops illmatic to me.... Stillmatic, Hip hop is dead, Nas the lost tapes. That's my opinion, but Kendrick Lamar's GKMC is easily a hip hop classic he's story is so relatable his album is Compton in a nutshell & just like nas, Kendrick's GKMC might be weak compared to all the albums kendrick will make in the future dude is that talented so stop tryin make this illmatic v gkmc damn! There comparable that's all both are hip hop classics from different era's period.
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:-\... You are some wierd ass dudes on everything, answer fucking quest is it comparable hell yeah it is take ya'll feelings & hate out of it ain't nobody sayin it's better n shit it's comparable that's all Kendrick is my favorite rapper & Nas is the greatest MC of all time to me I personally don't like his debut album I think some of his other albums easily tops illmatic to me.... Stillmatic, Hip hop is dead, Nas the lost tapes. That's my opinion, but Kendrick Lamar's GKMC is easily a hip hop classic he's story is so relatable his album is Compton in a nutshell & just like nas, Kendrick's GKMC might be weak compared to all the albums kendrick will make in the future dude is that talented so stop tryin make this illmatic v gkmc damn! There comparable that's all both are hip hop classics from different era's period.
so u don't like "illmatic", but u like "gkmc"....move along, sir
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I'd love to hear what Nas thinks about the album. I think he already said he thinks Kendrick is dope?
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Finally got my GKMC double CD last night.
First proper listen toady on a good system, it's now my rap album of the year. 8)
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@NIKCC WTF you talking bout duke illmatic was great album but compred to his other albums that I love it's second tier, yes! I do enjoy gkmc more than llmatic because I can relate to Kendrick living in Compton & in shit, I can't relate to nas's illmatic cause I ain't from new York the shit Kendrick raps about on gkmc in lived thru some of those situations so it's more relatable for me not taking shit away from nas I just enjoy gkmc better if you don't like nigga that's on you.
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@NIKCC WTF you talking bout duke illmatic was great album but compred to his other albums that I love it's second tier, yes! I do enjoy gkmc more than llmatic because I can relate to Kendrick living in Compton & in shit, I can't relate to nas's illmatic cause I ain't from new York the shit Kendrick raps about on gkmc in lived thru some of those situations so it's more relatable for me not taking shit away from nas I just enjoy gkmc better if you don't like nigga that's on you.
if u think "gkmc" is a better album than "illmatic", then i feel sorry for ya mother.....naah, foreal, though, you must be out ya mind, cud.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
If music was strictly subjective then Dre wouldn't know how to make a beat better.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
If music was strictly subjective then Dre wouldn't know how to make a beat better.
I mean, it's pretty strictly subjective.
Gangnam Style officially hit one billion views yesterday on Youtube. Pretty popular. I bet 95% of this forum hates that song. Are you guys musically retarded because a billion people say it's a good song?
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
agreed, I remember getting into an argument when I was 15 cause some dude couldn't fathom the fact that I prefered Foesum's Perfection over Illmatic. I was like, yeah sure Illmatic is the greater album, but I personally prefer Perfection (which I don't as of now btw), but dude couldn't accept that. some people don't have the "courage" to have different taste.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
agreed, I remember getting into an argument when I was 15 cause some dude couldn't fathom the fact that I prefered Foesum's Perfection over Illmatic. I was like, yeah sure Illmatic is the greater album, but I personally prefer Perfection (which I don't as of now btw), but dude couldn't accept that. some people don't have the "courage" to have different taste.
Yeah I've never understood trying to.force your opinion on someone else. There's no mathematic formula to say what is, and isn't dope. The great thing about music is that it is entirely subjective, and your tastes generally reflect your personal experiences with the music.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
he can say he prefers it, i have no problem with that...but to claim it's a better album is pretty sad and kills his credibility right off the bat. music is subjective...yes. does that mean one would not be an idiot if he said "game is to be sold" is a better snoop album than "doggystyle"? no, it doesn't. people are entitled to their opinions, but it don't mean they can't be wrong or lack credible taste
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
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I thought music was all subjective? Not NIK's biased opinion.
With that being said, TO ME, Illmatic > GKMD. However if you feel differently, that's cool too.
agreed, I remember getting into an argument when I was 15 cause some dude couldn't fathom the fact that I prefered Foesum's Perfection over Illmatic. I was like, yeah sure Illmatic is the greater album, but I personally prefer Perfection (which I don't as of now btw), but dude couldn't accept that. some people don't have the "courage" to have different taste.
if a rap critic ranked lil romeo's "romeoland" as a better album than "the chronic", would u respect his opinion going forward?
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@NIKCC WTF you talking bout duke illmatic was great album but compred to his other albums that I love it's second tier, yes! I do enjoy gkmc more than llmatic because I can relate to Kendrick living in Compton & in shit, I can't relate to nas's illmatic cause I ain't from new York the shit Kendrick raps about on gkmc in lived thru some of those situations so it's more relatable for me not taking shit away from nas I just enjoy gkmc better if you don't like nigga that's on you.
if u think "gkmc" is a better album than "illmatic", then i feel sorry for ya mother.....naah, foreal, though, you must be out ya mind, cud.
Calihoodsta's reasoning is probably one of the few valid points for not liking an album over another, on this board. Usually it's just someone saying an album is trash cuz they didn't like the way their hair looked on the album cover.
I'll have to blow the dust off of Illmatic and revisit it but I'm already skipping thru a lot of songs on Good Kid Mad City. In my opinion, Section 80 is a far better album than GKMC. Not taking away anything from it but I'm just feeling Section 80 more.
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:o :o... Im just amazed at how biased dude is how the fuck NIKCC gon throw shots at me over my opinion duke is a joke real rap if you think illmatic is better than gkmc that's cool my g a lot of people do, but people sayin gkmc is the westcoast illmatic is a valid point due to generation it exists in & the message behind gkmc, it's very relatable to kids growing up in California that's was same response Nas got from illmatic New York niggas could relate to the message behind that album as well cause it was a Mc speaking on what New York niggas go through. Nas is the greatest MC of all-time to me so don't think cause I prefer gkmc over illmatic im hating in shit I sat down & played illmatic over I love his lyricism on the album but gkMC just hit home wit me on the sing ... sing about me,im dying of thrist that first verse was almost exactly how one of my homeboys died & the art of peer pressure was another one that really home wit me cause I actually lived thru those same fucking scenarios so I put that over any fuckin debut that's my opinion that don't take shit away from nas cause the best album nas ever made was "stillmatic" that's one my favorite albums ever! But to sum it up illmatic & gkmc is a generation thing that's all people have different taste
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:o :o... Im just amazed at how biased dude is how the fuck NIKCC gon throw shots at me over my opinion duke is a joke real rap if you think illmatic is better than gkmc that's cool my g a lot of people do, but people sayin gkmc is the westcoast illmatic is a valid point due to generation it exists in & the message behind gkmc, it's very relatable to kids growing up in California that's was same response Nas got from illmatic New York niggas could relate to the message behind that album as well cause it was a Mc speaking on what New York niggas go through. Nas is the greatest MC of all-time to me so don't think cause I prefer gkmc over illmatic im hating in shit I sat down & played illmatic over I love his lyricism on the album but gkMC just hit home wit me on the sing ... sing about me,im dying of thrist that first verse was almost exactly how one of my homeboys died & the art of peer pressure was another one that really home wit me cause I actually lived thru those same fucking scenarios so I put that over any fuckin debut that's my opinion that don't take shit away from nas cause the best album nas ever made was "stillmatic" that's one my favorite albums ever! But to sum it up illmatic & gkmc is a generation thing that's all people have different taste
thats all good, my dude.... ur entitled to ur opinion, but "illmatic" is to "good kid mad city" what "godfather" is to "road to perdition". i still think there are too many flaws in "gkmc" to put it up there with an album of "illmatics" caliber. but if u feel it more, thats on u. just dont expect most to agree.
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I like Kendrick as much as the next guy, but I don't see it as a classic album, let alone, being comparable to one of the best hip hop albums I've heard.
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@NIKCC That's fair duke that's how you feel it's cool tho.... I all I kno is that for people to even debate & put gkmc in the same breath as illmatic which to some is greatest album ever is an accomplishment in itself for Kendrick to make a classic album pretty much without a Dr. Dre beat is shocking to me, It's scary to think what dude gon do with some real Dr.dre beats behind his next album real Kendrick fans kno he only used about 75% of his true lyrical ability on gkmc due to the message he wanted to deliver on his album like he said "I kno some rappers using big words to make their similes curve, my simplest shit be more pivotal" But in all illmatic will never be touched to some & that's fair it's just fun to debate people when they have good things to debate about
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I like Kendrick as much as the next guy, but I don't see it as a classic album, let alone, being comparable to one of the best hip hop albums I've heard.
I didn't rate it very high til i gave the CD a proper bump.
It's a 8/10 for me now.
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I like Kendrick as much as the next guy, but I don't see it as a classic album, let alone, being comparable to one of the best hip hop albums I've heard.
I didn't rate it very high til i gave the CD a proper bump.
It's a 8/10 for me now.
u were right upon first listen
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First listen I hated! it... The story didn't hit me yet by the 3rd listen I was like this muthafucka is a genius! The way the album played like a movie, the way the skits sets up the next track it was like if boyz n the hood was an album it would sound exactly like gkmc Kendrick's music is so deep his message can fly by you in a heartbeat, it took me 3 listens tho to get the message behind it. Kendrick ain't everybody's cup of tea but for those who appreciate conceptual albums kno this dude is special it's a reason Nas called him "The Future".
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I like Kendrick as much as the next guy, but I don't see it as a classic album, let alone, being comparable to one of the best hip hop albums I've heard.
I didn't rate it very high til i gave the CD a proper bump.
It's a 8/10 for me now.
u were right upon first listen
Don't be mad it ain't as good homie. I can listen and enjoy music knowing some ain't as good but the mood or vibe still draws my to it. That T.I. only a 7/10 but I still went out day one and bought the CD. Same with Rick Ross that shit ain't as cerebral as Nas or Kendrick but its heat in other ways. My 2c