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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Blood$ on February 18, 2013, 03:18:55 PM
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let's talk about it yell
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new orleans ruined it lyrically
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Los Angeles ;)
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None, they all added something different. This whole idea that Hip-Hop was some great conscience music is a complete load of BS. The first radio song was a song three guys bit from another group with a beat taken straight out of a disco song, and the song was made to dance. The next big Hip-Hop song was about basketball and the biggest artist of the time made singles about their Adidas. The only artist back then spitting knowledge was Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five's Melle Mel, and even then most their songs were on some party and dance subjects.
So I guess with that, I vote New York. But not with all the biting now, but New York ruined it pre-1986.
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None, they all added something different. This whole idea that Hip-Hop was some great conscience music is a complete load of BS. The first radio song was a song three guys bit from another group with a beat taken straight out of a disco song, and the song was made to dance. The next big Hip-Hop song was about basketball and the biggest artist of the time made singles about their Adidas. The only artist back then spitting knowledge was Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five's Melle Mel, and even then most their songs were on some party and dance subjects.
So I guess with that, I vote New York. But not with all the biting now, but New York ruined it pre-1986.
there is no way New York could have ruined since they invented it .hip hop was originally about partying . it has to be another region for it to be ruined . they region that ruined it was the south aka ATL & new orleans . but you are half right about new york being part of it .biggie & puffy started the down fall then cash money helped finish it. we also can't forget the fans & main stream who listen to wack ass music like puffy,cash money , ja rule after the first album , & D4L, Shawty Lo, snap music. We also have to thank society for becoming a scared little bitch that rather blank out everrything bad life & pretend like it is not . society rather be in denial then face reality & be conscience.
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None, they all added something different. This whole idea that Hip-Hop was some great conscience music is a complete load of BS. The first radio song was a song three guys bit from another group with a beat taken straight out of a disco song, and the song was made to dance. The next big Hip-Hop song was about basketball and the biggest artist of the time made singles about their Adidas. The only artist back then spitting knowledge was Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five's Melle Mel, and even then most their songs were on some party and dance subjects.
So I guess with that, I vote New York. But not with all the biting now, but New York ruined it pre-1986.
there is no way New York could have ruined since they invented it .hip hop was originally about partying . it has to be another region for it to be ruined . they region that ruined it was the south aka ATL & new orleans . but you are half right about new york being part of it .biggie & puffy started the down fall then cash money helped finish it. we also can't forget the fans & main stream who listen to wack ass music like puffy,cash money , ja rule after the first album , & D4L, Shawty Lo, snap music. We also have to thank society for becoming a scared little bitch that rather blank out everrything bad life & pretend like it is not . society rather be in denial then face reality & be conscience.
When I was growing up in the early 90's, and I had my westcoast tapes, my older cousins were talking about how wack Coolio and Domino were and how Rob Bass and Public Enemy shits on them. Every older generation thinks their music was better and somewhere between their time listening to music and now, someone or somewhere fucked it up. What's the difference between some of the shit that plays now and 2 Live Crew or Gucci Crew II (yes that was an 80's group with a hit song) or Tone-Loc. People act like everyone was digging Poor Righteous Teachers when they only had one hit and it was called Butt Naked Booty Bliss. MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice were the most popular artist while Public Enemy was dropping classics. Things ain't change, we only remember what we want to. You can't tell me I Got 5 On It was a great lyrical classic, or that the Luniz had any hits afterwards. Saying Hip-Hop is ruined is to deny people like Kendrick Lamar or J.Cole or Lupe don't exist. To say Kanye West ruined Hip-Hop is to act like College Dropout didn't exist and it's to ignore that for the last 10 years the hottest tracks have said produced by Kanye West. Nothing's change but the quality of the recordings.
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M Dogg just straight schooled son
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Clearly Nelly. I would fist fight Nelly and kick his ass.
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St. Louis hands down
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probably eurupe and australia
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Lol at Europe is Active...
Yeah I'm gonna go with STL. Mostly cuz of Nelly, but also cuz of that other guy in the st. Lunatics that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head. I wanted to slap that shit off his face about 13 years ago and I still do.
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I don't like Nelly much at all, think he's horrible. But if Nelly ruined Hip-Hop then that's an insult to the great artist of today. Besides, KRS-One played him. Ironically KRS-One did the same move as Nelly did 15 years earlier. Nelly joined the Hip-Hop cycle, I don't like him but I ain't gonna say he ruined Hip-Hop.
http://www.youtube.com/v/-fjMfXdhnHU?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
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What about puffy with the shiny suits and flashing rolexes in videos.
What about ja rule turning hip hop into r&b ( so many rappers in love on the radio)
Cash money with the bling bling faze.
Nelly is 2000 version of LL cool j but at least LL made some real hip hop records to go with his résumé.
Lil Jon deffenatley dumbed down lyrics and screaming obsenery on records.
A lot of one hit wonders came from the south with catchy beats and hooks with no real content, just straight bull shit.
You could also throw the west in their for introducing LA gang culture and spreading that shit around the world that got everyone thinking their some kind of straight up G. Right OG Will B? Double OG classic? Lol
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I also blame Nelly for the financial collapse of 2008.
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I also blame Nelly for the financial collapse of 2008.
LOL... Nelly had more to do with it than George Bush and the banks and government policy all put together. LOL
What about puffy with the shiny suits and flashing rolexes in videos.
What about ja rule turning hip hop into r&b ( so many rappers in love on the radio)
Cash money with the bling bling faze.
Nelly is 2000 version of LL cool j but at least LL made some real hip hop records to go with his résumé.
Lil Jon deffenatley dumbed down lyrics and screaming obsenery on records.
A lot of one hit wonders came from the south with catchy beats and hooks with no real content, just straight bull shit.
You could also throw the west in their for introducing LA gang culture and spreading that shit around the world that got everyone thinking their some kind of straight up G. Right OG Will B? Double OG classic? Lol
Because this dress is Hip-Hop
(http://www.jhrlmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/grandmaster-flash-furious_five_fashion_small.jpg)
or this
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/50073781/Afrika+Bambaataa+wpb4YsvWL3uyk5xkaMzTdStN_500.jpg)
Because this didn't help turn Hip-Hop into R&B
http://www.youtube.com/v/1XV5_WagxZg?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/NEUX-HYRtUA?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
Because this isn't bling bling
(http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/PhotoFiles/run-dmc.jpg)
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/28215345/Kurtis+Blow+kurtis_blow.jpg)
Because Nelly didn't make real Hip-Hop.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Vt-96_byt68?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
Or there was no other artist that just made party raps pre-Nelly
http://www.youtube.com/v/bDkqz5C62SM?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
No one else dumb down lyrics before Lil' Jon
http://www.youtube.com/v/MIX5bo8MOxQ?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/9lDCYjb8RHk?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
Because there are NO one hit wonders from outside the south with catchy beats and hooks
http://www.youtube.com/v/xy4FXhkm6Nw?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/387ZDGSKVSg?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/J3nPLoODtGU?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
http://www.youtube.com/v/ffCEr327W44?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
And because it was the west that introduced gangsta culture to Hip-Hop?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sQyX1D0D1WU/T_AwLg_-ISI/AAAAAAAACMA/9fJsilykkX0/s1600/Boogie-Down-Productions+-+Criminal-Minded+cover.jpg)
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Ahh the good ole days 8)
All of that is classic hip hop, it ain't nothing like the old school 8)
How does Chaka khan influence hip hop into r&b. from the video it looks like hip hop influenced her.
Those one hit wonders you posted I like lol. I grew up on those.
LL cool j is the best to that ever did it and get away with it. (Rapping to females)
The old school jewelry I got nothing wrong with, birdmans dumb ass that's all he would rap about, cars , money, and jewels with high budget videos and that what brought into pop culture. The word bling bling.
I get your point every, era in hip hop had its moments but you can't tell me the south really dumbed it down to what it is now. That video of 2live crew, they are from Miami, the south right? They started that Miami bass shit and the only record I like from them is hood rat hood rat hoochi mama lol.
Even right now hip hop if you wanna call it that is making a turn. I don't even listen to the radio but when i turn on power 106 all they play is party records and club records. There's no more street singles being played. I can't even name the last street single I heard get played since ruff ryders anthem. I know there's more but I can't think of any. Nelly ain't event relevant today.
I blame the south and that's what I'm sticking with. They have made the dumbest records get radio play more than any other region in the US. garbage ass one hiter quiter rappers come from the south.
Gucci mane. That's all I have to say
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Ahh the good ole days 8)
All of that is classic hip hop, it ain't nothing like the old school 8)
How does Chaka khan influence hip hop into r&b. from the video it looks like hip hop influenced her.
Those one hit wonders you posted I like lol. I grew up on those.
LL cool j is the best to that ever did it and get away with it. (Rapping to females)
The old school jewelry I got nothing wrong with, birdmans dumb ass that's all he would rap about, cars , money, and jewels with high budget videos and that what brought into pop culture. The word bling bling.
I get your point every, era in hip hop had its moments but you can't tell me the south really dumbed it down to what it is now.
Even right now hip hop if you wanna call it that is making a turn. I don't even listen to the radio but on power 106 all they play is party records and club records. There's no more street singles being played. I can't even name the last street single I heard get played since ruff ryders anthem. I know there's more but I can't think of any. Nelly ain't event relevant today. I blame the south and that's what I'm sticking with
LOL... I remember when Power 106 use to play house music next to westcoast Gangsta Rap. I mean it all changes with the times. I don't blame the south for anything, they had that Miami Booty Bass back in the 80's, 90's, and then it evolved to Crunk and all the stuff you hear today. Hip-Hop is party music, that's what it was there for. Hip-Hop started in 1973, it wasn't until 1982 that Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 recorded the Message. So for 9 years Hip-Hop was nothing but party music and yo' mama jokes. Hip-Hop was made to have fun, turn the party out, dance over break beats and make raps that were funny and cleaver, all while boosting and bragging about being the best at what you do.
I remember when I was in college, I use to "date" this international student who knew NOTHING of Hip-Hop. I introduced her to some artist and when I got to 2Pac she was amazed. By this time she loved all Dr. Dre productions as well. So when I had her listen to California Love she was so disappointed. I was like why and she said "with all that talent that's the best they could do?" I thought about it and I realized that that's exactly what they should have done. California Love is the ultimate party track. The 49ers used it in the Super Bowl this year, it's timeless and it's something to dance to. You want the party to go crazy from California to the Mid-West, all they need to hear is... California Looove! To me California Love is the perfect example of a pure Hip-Hop song. You have the greatest producer, you have the greatest rapper and when they came together you have a classic and timeless party anthem for a whole state. That's Hip-Hop.
I guess my point is people make Hip-Hop more than it is. Yeah Hip-Hop needs artist like Rakim, 2Pac, Nas, Chuck D, KRS-One and all the other underground and conscience rappers to be the very best and shiny examples of Hip-Hop. If Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 didn't record the Message, Hip-Hop would have died out like Disco. But at it's heart and soul, it's party music. I love Hip-Hop, and you'd never catch Lil' Jon or Nicki Minaj on my phone. But at the same time, I acknowledge that they have their place and that they do their job for this current younger generation. The same way my older cousins made fun of me for Domino and Coolio and yet they were listening to Run DMC and Beastie Boys, I see people today making fun of Drake and Lil' Wayne well they still listen to to all that old school stuff that's party music. I ain't gonna hate on the New School. I don't understand it, I don't listen to it, but I don't hate because to me it's just Hip-Hop for a new generation.
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st louis no doubt. not to mention that whole city is a boring hot shithole
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Gucci mane. That's all I have to say
Eazy E, no skill
Bizarre
Suga Free
Gucci Crew II (from the 80's and just as bad as the name says)
Lil' Rob
Yukmouth
Master P
Silkk the Shocker (to me, still the worst mainstream rapper ever, couldn't even stay on beat)
South Central Cartel
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Gucci mane. That's all I have to say
Eazy E, no skill
Bizarre
Suga Free
Gucci Crew II (from the 80's and just as bad as the name says)
Lil' Rob
Yukmouth
Master P
Silkk the Shocker (to me, still the worst mainstream rapper ever, couldn't even stay on beat)
South Central Cartel
Lol I swear silk had to have done all his raps acapella or something. He didn't give half a fuck about riding a beat.
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Gucci mane. That's all I have to say
Eazy E, no skill
Bizarre
Suga Free
Gucci Crew II (from the 80's and just as bad as the name says)
Lil' Rob
Yukmouth
Master P
Silkk the Shocker (to me, still the worst mainstream rapper ever, couldn't even stay on beat)
South Central Cartel
Lol I swear silk had to have done all his raps acapella or something. He didn't give half a fuck about riding a beat.
At first in high school, I was annoyed, but when I got to college and started smoking a little I could laugh for hours (or it seemed like hours, I forget) listening to Silkk CD's. LOL Even now when I think a rapper is bad, I put on a Silkk CD and think, oh it's still not as bad as this. LOL
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LOL... I remember when Power 106 use to play house music next to westcoast Gangsta Rap. I mean it all changes with the times. I don't blame the south for anything, they had that Miami Booty Bass back in the 80's, 90's, and then it evolved to Crunk and all the stuff you hear today. Hip-Hop is party music, that's what it was there for. Hip-Hop started in 1973, it wasn't until 1982 that Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 recorded the Message. So for 9 years Hip-Hop was nothing but party music and yo' mama jokes. Hip-Hop was made to have fun, turn the party out, dance over break beats and make raps that were funny and cleaver, all while boosting and bragging about being the best at what you do.
I remember when I was in college, I use to "date" this international student who knew NOTHING of Hip-Hop. I introduced her to some artist and when I got to 2Pac she was amazed. By this time she loved all Dr. Dre productions as well. So when I had her listen to California Love she was so disappointed. I was like why and she said "with all that talent that's the best they could do?" I thought about it and I realized that that's exactly what they should have done. California Love is the ultimate party track. The 49ers used it in the Super Bowl this year, it's timeless and it's something to dance to. You want the party to go crazy from California to the Mid-West, all they need to hear is... California Looove! To me California Love is the perfect example of a pure Hip-Hop song. You have the greatest producer, you have the greatest rapper and when they came together you have a classic and timeless party anthem for a whole state. That's Hip-Hop.
I guess my point is people make Hip-Hop more than it is. Yeah Hip-Hop needs artist like Rakim, 2Pac, Nas, Chuck D, KRS-One and all the other underground and conscience rappers to be the very best and shiny examples of Hip-Hop. If Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 didn't record the Message, Hip-Hop would have died out like Disco. But at it's heart and soul, it's party music. I love Hip-Hop, and you'd never catch Lil' Jon or Nicki Minaj on my phone. But at the same time, I acknowledge that they have their place and that they do their job for this current younger generation. The same way my older cousins made fun of me for Domino and Coolio and yet they were listening to Run DMC and Beastie Boys, I see people today making fun of Drake and Lil' Wayne well they still listen to to all that old school stuff that's party music. I ain't gonna hate on the New School. I don't understand it, I don't listen to it, but I don't hate because to me it's just Hip-Hop for a new generation.
Totally agree with you that hip hop started as party music and yea the message changed the game In terms of rapping about real life issues.
Just like the story of your older cuzzins talking shit about what u listened to, I was trying to school my 15 year old cuz in to the hip hop I grew up listening to and i was saying," man I grew up in the best era of hip hop and you will never understand what "real" hip hop is" and he just told me
"It ain't my generation". That was the best reply he could of ever come up with. I respected that and I said "you know what? your right!.
My lecture was over lol.
I also remember listening to Dj Ernie and Richard Humpty Vision when they played deep house on power. I liked that shit, battling in Jr high and the girls dressing all hoochie like. I miss the 90's man good times
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Clearly Nelly. I would fist fight Nelly and kick his ass.
no, you would not . nelly would box the living shit out of you . nelly is in 10 x better shape then you & takes boxing.
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St. Louis hands down
you can't say ST louis because it was already ruined before st louis . Hip hop was ruined by puffy ,Mase, & lil wayne & cash money . halrem & new orleans are to blame not st louis
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Lol at Europe is Active...
Yeah I'm gonna go with STL. Mostly cuz of Nelly, but also cuz of that other guy in the st. Lunatics that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head. I wanted to slap that shit off his face about 13 years ago and I still do.
you can't go with STL because hip hop was already ruined by puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans. . the st. Lunatic that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head got kicked out of st. Lunatics . he is beefing wiht nelly & . Lunatics, but you can't blame nelly for something that happen before him.
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st louis no doubt. not to mention that whole city is a boring hot shithole
please ,very much doubt when it comes to st louis . puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans are to blame not st louis at all ,hater. puffy & mase & lil wayne & cash money were all before nelly & st louis . they had already ruined hip hop by time st louis showed up . st louis is not boring hot shithole like you from . st louis is millions time better then where you are from . st louis is greatest sport city in U.S. & is alot more nicer & friendly then new york,new jersey, houston,dallas,oakland & L.A.
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st louis no doubt. not to mention that whole city is a boring hot shithole
please very much doubt when it comes to st louis . puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans are to blame not st louis at all ,hater. puffy & mase & lil wayne & cash money were all before nelly & st louis . they had already ruined hip hop by time st louis showed up . st louis is not boring hot shithole like you from . st louis is millions time better then where you are from . st louis is greatest sport city in U.S. & is alot more nicer & friendly then new york,new jersey, houston,dallas,oakland & L.A.
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they love their baseball but they don't even HAVE an NBA team so it can't be the best sports city
best sports city is NYC because they have 2 teams in every league
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Lol at Europe is Active...
Yeah I'm gonna go with STL. Mostly cuz of Nelly, but also cuz of that other guy in the st. Lunatics that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head. I wanted to slap that shit off his face about 13 years ago and I still do.
you can't go with STL because hip hop was already ruined by puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans. . the st. Lunatic that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head got kicked out of st. Lunatics . he is beefing wiht nelly & . Lunatics, but you can't blame nelly for something that happen before him.
I give Nelly respect for ousting dude from the crew. I was embarrassed for their clique (which in hindsight I felt sorry for STL as a whole) when I saw that shit. At the same time, Nelly was sportin a bandaid under his eye all the time and called people his durrty. If I saw him I'd slap him in his face and make him call me sir. Ashanti looked like a horse. Not in the ass, but the face. Fo Reel Fo Reel (No Fo Reel Entertainment)
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maybe he just has really bad eyesight
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LOL midwestryder constantly changing his mind on who ruined hip-hop because he now realizes his hometown (or his fantasy hometown) is the place that has been the most detrimental to the rap game
and LMAO at "Nelly takes boxing lessons" so are you his little cheer leader every time he practices? I'd smack that band-aid right off his face and tell him "Fuck STL" and I bet him or the St. Losers don't do a goddamn thing... even Chingy would scrap it out before they would
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Yeah, bruh. Just come to terms with reality. Nigga had a song called "Shake Your Tail Feather". C'mon son.
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Yeah, bruh. Just come to terms with reality. Nigga had a song called "Shake Your Tail Feather". C'mon son.
AND that particular song featured PUFF DADDY who also produced that song and the soundtrack it appeared on :o
Nelly (the sole murderer of everything good in hip-hop) and Diddy (who midwestryder despises) working together :-X
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Yeah, he betrayed you with that one, fam.
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is midwestryder an asian immigrant or something? and i was in st louis last summer and that place is seriously boring as fuck. its a big city but it still feels like some shitfuck country town if that makes sense. not to mention its hotter than shit. i can see why the rappers from there are so shitty
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I think midwestryder said he was Pilipino.
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I think midwestryder said he was Pilipino.
hahah yeah he sounds like an asian who doesnt speak english very well
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LOL midwestryder constantly changing his mind on who ruined hip-hop because he now realizes his hometown (or his fantasy hometown) is the place that has been the most detrimental to the rap game
and LMAO at "Nelly takes boxing lessons" so are you his little cheer leader every time he practices? I'd smack that band-aid right off his face and tell him "Fuck STL" and I bet him or the St. Losers don't do a goddamn thing... even Chingy would scrap it out before they would
LOL
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
her walls are gone.
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st louis no doubt. not to mention that whole city is a boring hot shithole
please very much doubt when it comes to st louis . puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans are to blame not st louis at all ,hater. puffy & mase & lil wayne & cash money were all before nelly & st louis . they had already ruined hip hop by time st louis showed up . st louis is not boring hot shithole like you from . st louis is millions time better then where you are from . st louis is greatest sport city in U.S. & is alot more nicer & friendly then new york,new jersey, houston,dallas,oakland & L.A.
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they love their baseball but they don't even HAVE an NBA team so it can't be the best sports city
best sports city is NYC because they have 2 teams in every league
there is no way in hell NYC is best sports town because of its fans . NYC fans are piece of crap . NYC fans treat other teams fans with no respect at all . STL fans treat all team fans with respect making STL the best sports city in U.S. . it don't matter is they have NBA team or not. STl had a NBA team at one time . the were called St louis Hawks till they moved to ATL.
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Lol at Europe is Active...
Yeah I'm gonna go with STL. Mostly cuz of Nelly, but also cuz of that other guy in the st. Lunatics that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head. I wanted to slap that shit off his face about 13 years ago and I still do.
you can't go with STL because hip hop was already ruined by puffy & mase from harlem & lil wayne & cash money from new orleans. . the st. Lunatic that always wore a Jason mask sideways on his head got kicked out of st. Lunatics . he is beefing wiht nelly & . Lunatics, but you can't blame nelly for something that happen before him.
I give Nelly respect for ousting dude from the crew. I was embarrassed for their clique (which in hindsight I felt sorry for STL as a whole) when I saw that shit. At the same time, Nelly was sportin a bandaid under his eye all the time and called people his durrty. If I saw him I'd slap him in his face and make him call me sir. Ashanti looked like a horse. Not in the ass, but the face. Fo Reel Fo Reel (No Fo Reel Entertainment)
you would try to slap nelly then you would get you ass whooped & left for dead in ILL side.. nelly would pick you aas up & break you back . nelly also takes boxing . Nelly is no saml dude & is no punk . nelly is just a nice person but don't try him in real life.
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LOL midwestryder constantly changing his mind on who ruined hip-hop because he now realizes his hometown (or his fantasy hometown) is the place that has been the most detrimental to the rap game
and LMAO at "Nelly takes boxing lessons" so are you his little cheer leader every time he practices? I'd smack that band-aid right off his face and tell him "Fuck STL" and I bet him or the St. Losers don't do a goddamn thing... even Chingy would scrap it out before they would
i have n once changed my mind on anything ,lieing ass hater . i have always said biggie,puffy,masss & lil wayne & cash money ruined & almost killed hip hop . i have never ever changed my mind of story ,lieing ass hater. Nelly does take boxing lessons , that is just fact ,scared ass hater / you would not smack shit crackhead . you are nothing but a crackheaded skinny little bitch that has got his ass whooped by women all his life. if you said Fuck STL in STL , watch you life go go by by . i hope you can swim . because they throw in muddy mississippi . you act like nelly does not have body guards that would beat you ass before you got even near him ,dumbass.. chingy is skiiny bitch compared to nelly . also nelly already beat him in boxing . stop being loser ass stalking hater & stop hating on my real hometown,jealous ass hater. don't be made STL is better then where you from
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Yeah, bruh. Just come to terms with reality. Nigga had a song called "Shake Your Tail Feather". C'mon son.
after the cancer called puffy,mase, biggie, lil wayne & cash money had already fucked up hip hop . nelly is Innocent in this .
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Yeah, bruh. Just come to terms with reality. Nigga had a song called "Shake Your Tail Feather". C'mon son.
AND that particular song featured PUFF DADDY who also produced that song and the soundtrack it appeared on :o
Nelly (the sole murderer of everything good in hip-hop) and Diddy (who midwestryder despises) working together :-X
see you are just hater of nelly . . Lil wayne is the sole murderer of everything good in hip-hop not nelly .
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is midwestryder an asian immigrant or something? and i was in st louis last summer and that place is seriously boring as fuck. its a big city but it still feels like some shitfuck country town if that makes sense. not to mention its hotter than shit. i can see why the rappers from there are so shitty
no i am not an asian immigrant or something. i was born in east st louis ,il . i am half AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN. . ST louis is not boring as fcuk . it is only boring to dumb ass outsiders who have no clue what to do in STL . there is million things to do in STL . the STL is party city ! have you ever been to real shitfuck country town like new london,mo or hannibal ,mo . if not then you don't evenb know what a shitfuck country town is. the whole midwest during summer is hotter then shit all the time . we don't have ocean breezes like the coast do . no the rappers from STL are not shiitty at all ,ignorant ass hater . go listen to my boy tef poe.
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so ur a sqwak? ;D
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I think midwestryder said he was Pilipino.
no i fucking did not . i fucked a filipino bitch & turned her out. but that is it . I am HALF AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN !
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I think midwestryder said he was Pilipino.
hahah yeah he sounds like an asian who doesnt speak english very well
i am not . nothing you said is true . AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN. my dad killed asians in vietnam war
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
that is bullshit . i am not navaho & never have been . i am not swedish or white at all . one spider loc boy never exposed shit because i don't know spider loc's boy . i have never met or talked to spider loc's boy . so save fucking lies for someone else or you just mistaking me for someone else. i never been outside the U.S ever. i never been to sweden ever . i went to SLU for college. so everything you saying is lie like you .
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
you are disrespectfull idiot for that . my grandman was no hoe like yours.
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
her walls are gone.
go to hell ,hater my grandma was not hoe like your grandma & your mother.
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so ur a sqwak? ;D
what the hell is sqwak ?
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i went to SLU for college. so everything you saying is lie like you .
If you went to college, it must have been one of those fucked up shacks on the reservation with a middle school kid from the city interning as a teacher. You are a complete idiot. No one at high school level writes and thinks as retarded and yourself, let alone fucking college. Who do you think you are MDOGG or something? Get the fuck out of here and take tupacs balls off your chin son.
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. AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN. my dad killed asians in vietnam war
Well this explains alot...you are half indian so that means your mom drank a lot of fire water when she was pregnant with you. That clears things right up.
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. AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN. my dad killed asians in vietnam war
Well this explains alot...you are half indian so that means your mom drank a lot of fire water when she was pregnant with you. That clears things right up.
LMAO Ghost is taking it there! hahahahahahahahaha ouchhhhh
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St. Louis (NELLY, Chingy, Huey, etc.) 7 (53.8%)
Atlanta (D4L, Shawty Lo, snap music, etc.) 3 (23.1%)
The Bay (Hyphy, Lil B, etc.) 1 (7.7%)
NY (dudes being bitter/biting other coasts) 1 (7.7%)
Whichever one has the most Euros
St. Louis ain't shit, period... should we take this poll to other forums until this little cracker Navaho scalps himself?
face it, the city you admire so much ruined a genre of music and even sports... and LMAO at STL being the "party city" :laugh: :stupid:
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
her walls are gone.
go to hell ,hater my grandma was not hoe like your grandma & your mother.
don't be mad at me cause your grandma had more flavors in her than baskin robbins. LOL
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
her walls are gone.
go to hell ,hater my grandma was not hoe like your grandma & your mother.
don't be mad at me cause your grandma had more flavors in her than baskin robbins. LOL
but she does not ,stupid ass fairy
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midwestryder about to break one of those frail fingers of his hitting that diss button so often
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KRS ruined nelly's career
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St. Louis (NELLY, Chingy, Huey, etc.) 7 (53.8%)
Atlanta (D4L, Shawty Lo, snap music, etc.) 3 (23.1%)
The Bay (Hyphy, Lil B, etc.) 1 (7.7%)
NY (dudes being bitter/biting other coasts) 1 (7.7%)
Whichever one has the most Euros
St. Louis ain't shit, period... should we take this poll to other forums until this little cracker Navaho scalps himself?
face it, the city you admire so much ruined a genre of music and even sports... and LMAO at STL being the "party city" :laugh: :stupid:
everything is fucking lie like you are . st louis never ruined sports ever ,hater & that is fact ,jack . st louis is the shit & you know it hater . one i am not a cracker . i am not white & never have been ,dumbass. i also not NAvaho & never been . i will repeat for your dumb retarded ass one more time i am half african american & half native american Cherokee indian. nothing else & nothing more,child. the stl is party city . we don't quit parting till 8 am in the LOU but you have no clue about STL at all . yor the one who is stupid.closeminded & very childish ignorant. two, STl ouis never ruined any genere of music ever because it was already ruined before st louis was part of it . the hip hop genre was ruined by biggie,puffy,mase, & lil wayne & cash money aka the south & new orleans way before nelly even around . so st louis has nothing to do with hip hop genre being ruining , instead harlem & new orleans ruined the hip hop genre not st Louis . those are facts jack . ST louis is the shit & is million tiime better then your joke of home town & where you live know . you just mad because were better then you . i will never scalo myself. i just come scalp your mitch ass. get a life loser & get off my jock & st louis's jock,hater
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KRS ruined nelly's career
i respect & look up to KRS-1 but nelly was the one who ruined KRS career. KRS-1 never ever hurt nelly's career & that is fact.
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. AFRICAN AMERICAN & HALF NATIVE AMERICAN AKA CHEROKKE INDIAN. my dad killed asians in vietnam war
Well this explains alot...you are half indian so that means your mom drank a lot of fire water when she was pregnant with you. That clears things right up.
my mom is straight edge. that means she does not drink any kind of fire water at all .so this just how closeminded,ignorant& racist you are . stop being a bigot.
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i went to SLU for college. so everything you saying is lie like you .
If you went to college, it must have been one of those fucked up shacks on the reservation with a middle school kid from the city interning as a teacher. You are a complete idiot. No one at high school level writes and thinks as retarded and yourself, let alone fucking college. Who do you think you are MDOGG or something? Get the fuck out of here and take tupacs balls off your chin son.
see you are wrong again,nerd . SLU is very big & important college in st louis . i am not a stupid ass internet nerd who cares about stupid ass grammar on stupid ass internet. i from era where onlly nerds care about grammar on the internet or computer , i from era where grammar only matters in a book report,a newspaper or a report at work only.. i was the guy in high school who was bench pressing or throwning nerds like you around. i don't have 2pac balls near my chin at all,hater. your just made 2pac was & always will be better then your favorite rapper. so take your dumb closeminded ignorant complete idiot nerd self to trailer park . because that is what you are . nothing but trailer park trash.
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KRS ruined nelly's career
i respect & look up to KRS-1 but nelly was the one who ruined KRS career. KRS-1 never ever hurt nelly's career & that is fact.
how come I haven't heard anything from Nelly since he did that Bay Area tribute song? (Which was a dope song)
meanwhile KRS is still touring and making nice $$$
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anyone remember when Chingy was on the George Lopez show? lmao lamest TV rapper moment ever
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KRS ruined nelly's career
i respect & look up to KRS-1 but nelly was the one who ruined KRS career. KRS-1 never ever hurt nelly's career & that is fact.
how come I haven't heard anything from Nelly since he did that Bay Area tribute song? (Which was a dope song)
meanwhile KRS is still touring and making nice $$$
then you most be living in box . mtv,mtv2 ,jams ,b.e.t. & the radio played Just a Dream",Move That Body", & Gone"
(featuring Kelly Rowland) from nelly's last album in fall of 2011. the bay area tribute is from 2008. nelly is still touring & running a school in St Louis . the school teaches studio work . so nelly is still out there just like the great KRS-1 touring & making $$$. nelly even has a new single out right know . the video premires friday.
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anyone remember when Chingy was on the George Lopez show? lmao lamest TV rapper moment ever
i never saw that .
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midwestryder about to break one of those frail fingers of his hitting that diss button so often
i have no clue what you are talking about dumbass. i have not hit the diss button since jan . so you are full of shit.
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KRS ruined nelly's career
i respect & look up to KRS-1 but nelly was the one who ruined KRS career. KRS-1 never ever hurt nelly's career & that is fact.
how come I haven't heard anything from Nelly since he did that Bay Area tribute song? (Which was a dope song)
meanwhile KRS is still touring and making nice $$$
then you most be living in box . mtv,mtv2 ,jams ,b.e.t. & the radio played Just a Dream",Move That Body", & Gone"
(featuring Kelly Rowland) from nelly's last album in fall of 2011. the bay area tribute is from 2008. nelly is still touring & running a school in St Louis . the school teaches studio work . so nelly is still out there just like the great KRS-1 touring & making $$$. nelly even has a new single out right know . the video premires friday.
MTV is for little girls bro
i like hip hop, not pop music
Kelly Rowland? haven't heard her name since she was in that Jason vs Freddy movie. She still famous??
good for nelly running a school though....can't knock that.
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KRS ruined nelly's career
i respect & look up to KRS-1 but nelly was the one who ruined KRS career. KRS-1 never ever hurt nelly's career & that is fact.
how come I haven't heard anything from Nelly since he did that Bay Area tribute song? (Which was a dope song)
meanwhile KRS is still touring and making nice $$$
then you most be living in box . mtv,mtv2 ,jams ,b.e.t. & the radio played Just a Dream",Move That Body", & Gone"
(featuring Kelly Rowland) from nelly's last album in fall of 2011. the bay area tribute is from 2008. nelly is still touring & running a school in St Louis . the school teaches studio work . so nelly is still out there just like the great KRS-1 touring & making $$$. nelly even has a new single out right know . the video premires friday.
MTV is for little girls bro
i like hip hop, not pop music
Kelly Rowland? haven't heard her name since she was in that Jason vs Freddy movie. She still famous??
good for nelly running a school though....can't knock that.
do you only get MTV . don't you get MTV 2 OR MTV jam station . nelly was on MTV2 & MTV jams station . MTV jams station is nothing but Hip hop,rap & R&B all day& night.i don't watch MYV but i do watch MTV 2 for week in jams & i am always watching MTV Jams station. plus i watch VH! soul.
Yes , kelly rowland i still very famous . did you not here her hit single in 2011 Motivation"
(featuring Lil Wayne) or Lay It on Me"(featuring Big Sean) from Here I Am or "Ice"(featuring Lil Wayne) from Talk a Good Game from 2012 . kelly rowland just did a Destiny's Child reunion at the Super Bowl XLVII halftime show.
thank you for being so open minded & listening. you showed you are respectful persom . much respect for that.
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St. Louis, is a terrible shit stain on our glorious country....and our hip hop music.
I blame it partially on the large amount of savage redskins in the area dragging down the intelligence of everyone around them, even the darkies. That's not meant to be racist or anything though.
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St. Louis, is a terrible shit stain on our glorious country....and our hip hop music.
I blame it partially on the large amount of savage redskins in the area dragging down the intelligence of everyone around them, even the darkies. That's not meant to be racist or anything though.
No doubt. Anytime the wind stops in that god forsaken excuse for a city, the goddamn savages start smoke signaling each other spreading their ignorant views. But I'll tell you one thing, midwest riders grandma suck dick so well, it would pull the skin off your damn head. Hence, the term scalping was originated.
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I took a shit in St. Louis once. They offered me a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Nelly ruined KRS-One's career... this saltine never ceases to amaze me with his ignorance :laugh:
St. Louis (NELLY, Chingy, Huey, etc.) 8 (44.4%)
Atlanta (D4L, Shawty Lo, snap music, etc.) 5 (27.8%)
The Bay (Hyphy, Lil B, etc.) 1 (5.6%)
NY (dudes being bitter/biting other coasts) 1 (5.6%)
Whichever one has the most Euros 3 (16.7%)
STL is still way ahead in the race 8)
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100.1%
I dig it.
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he's Navaho/Cherokee indian/Swedish which explains the extreme poor grammar... he went to a university in Sweden or something along those lines for quite some time (this at least was when Spider Loc's boy exposed him)
Jesus, his Grandma must have gotten around ROFL.
her walls are gone.
go to hell ,hater my grandma was not hoe like your grandma & your mother.
don't be mad at me cause your grandma had more flavors in her than baskin robbins. LOL
but she does not ,stupid ass fairy
i like how she do that right thurr. LOL
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its getting hot in hurr
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the city of St. Louis should get done Hiroshima style for messing up hip-hop
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the city of St. Louis should get done Hiroshima style for messing up hip-hop
8)
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the city of St. Louis should get done Hiroshima style for messing up hip-hop
LOL
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I'd say it was the idea of regions itself that ruined hip hop. Everyone leaping onto a sound or trend, making everything sound the same and watering down the music.
I voted Atlanta because those are the rappers I dislike the most.
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LOL Midwestryder took it on that chin in here.
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
nah that's false, classic albums dropped on both of those labels
nobody from St. Louis has ever released a classic hip-hop album and most likely never will
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good topic, let's blame some mohfuckas
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
nah that's false, classic albums dropped on both of those labels
nobody from St. Louis has ever released a classic hip-hop album and most likely never will
True but a lot more BS has come out of the South than the Mid-West.
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Not like what Nelly has put out.
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the city of St. Louis should get done Hiroshima style for messing up hip-hop
no it shouldn't . since it did not ruin hip hop is first place . hip hop was already ruined before st louis blew up . the south had already did it first with no limit & cash money . new york it self with puffy & biggie . hip hop was already messed up before nellly & that is fact . so stop with cl0oseminded ignorance & hate because you 100% wrong . that is a fact not ignorant opinion like yours . go check out tef poe & sylk smoov.
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Not like what Nelly has put out.
the south has put out music that is million times worse then anything nelly ever did & that is fact.
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LOL Midwestryder took it on that chin in here.
no, i did not ignorant.
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
nah that's false, classic albums dropped on both of those labels
nobody from St. Louis has ever released a classic hip-hop album and most likely never will
what about domino ?
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Country Grammar is better than anything that came out of the snap genre
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Country Grammar is better than anything that came out of the snap genre
I can agree with that... I never liked D4L, DFB, or any of that bullshit but Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" was a banger and that is fact (see what I did there)
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
nah that's false, classic albums dropped on both of those labels
nobody from St. Louis has ever released a classic hip-hop album and most likely never will
what about domino ?
who?
let me guess, I'm ignorant as fuck for not knowing who that is now
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Hands down the South ruined hip-hop. Starting with No Limit and still now with Cash Money.
nah that's false, classic albums dropped on both of those labels
nobody from St. Louis has ever released a classic hip-hop album and most likely never will
what about domino ?
who?
let me guess, I'm ignorant as fuck for not knowing who that is now
your west coast hip hop fan & you don't know domino geto jam . if you don't know who domino is then you are not a real west coast fan .
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Country Grammar is better than anything that came out of the snap genre
I can agree with that... I never liked D4L, DFB, or any of that bullshit but Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" was a banger and that is fact (see what I did there)
we can all agree on that . execpt for the Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" that shit was still wack as hell.
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I'd take a new Britney Spears album over a new Nelly album.
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Los Angeles ;)
lol
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Country Grammar is better than anything that came out of the snap genre
I can agree with that... I never liked D4L, DFB, or any of that bullshit but Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" was a banger and that is fact (see what I did there)
we can all agree on that . execpt for the Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" that shit was still wack as hell.
no it was not wack as hell that beat as tough and Lil Jon is Southern legend and E-40 is pioneer in the hip-hop game and that is fact so watch your mouth you dumb Cherokee
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midwestwannabryder just created 4 new accounts to vote Atlanta :P
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Lil Jon is Southern legend
:laugh:
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I understand not liking Lil Jon's shit but dude is a talented and versatile producer and he has good songs out. Snap Yo Fingers was kinda wack though. that 2006-2008 time frame was really a bad look for E-40 even though ironically he gained relevancy and went gold with My Ghetto Report Card. I liked the stuff Lil Jon did with Too $hort on What's My Favorite Word and Too $hort's compilations.
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St Louis "ruined" Hip Hop? St Louis was such a small window of time. Nelly is not much different than an L.L. Cool J that his music is obviously geared towards the Mainstream (namely women) but he still can go "hard" on a track when needed. With that said, he never made the timely classics that L.L. made and Nelly's music did not change or revolutionize Hip Hop. He did come up Independently and wasn't made by a machine, ala Chingy. But Chingy is every Bay rapper or ever L.A. rapper that came on the scene after Short, E-40, Snoop etc. blew up. People were getting signed back in the day just on their region. The West Coast fans whined about the "hate" from the East and here we are some 15-20 years later, "paying it forward."
Atlanta. The fact that people are using D4L and DFB as their choices shows their lack of real knowledge. Snap music was, again, a very small window of time. That did not ruin Hip Hop. Why no mention of such great fad Hip Hop Dance tracks like "The Jerk" or "The Cat Daddy" or "The Dougie" or virtually any Bay Area song that has to do with the Thizz Dance/Going Hyphy? Did California ruin Hip Hop with these songs? Nope.
New Orleans. People will dislike anything popular. But, Lil Wayne has been making music since he was a young teenage. He's been in the game since the 90s. It's not like he was built by a machine either. His first few albums did nothing. As he grew older and Cash Money started using other producers, his style changed. When he was making his Squad Up Mixtapes nobody was yelling about how bad New Orleans is/was. Now that he's popular people want to talk all that. He's no different today than a Snoop Doog. If we're going to talk lyrics and the biggest from this are is STILL Snoop, let's not talk lyrics. As for the rest of the New Orleans scene. If anyone can sit here and say I'm Bout It, Ice Cream Man, Ghetto D, The Shocker, True, Down South Hustlers, Tru-2-Da Game etc. etc. were not great albums and had a bunch of bangers.
No one region ruined Hip Hop. Things that ruined Hip Hop were the lack of the proper outlets. The Magazines aren't what they used to be. The Radio/TV personalities either ride the D (Sway MTV, Big Boy Power 106) or try too hard to be "real" (Kay Slay & The Breakfast Club). It's so easy to get on now, so people don't have to struggle. The days of guys like Master P selling from their Trunk. Nelly or Dirty (the duo from Alabama) getting so popular in their city and selling out completely in stores WITHOUT Radio play. People vibing in a record studio and making a bunch of solid music. I can go on, but not having the things I mentioned is what's hurting Hip Hop. 80s and 90s Hip Hop had a lot of struggle behind it. The younger artists did not have to struggle like that and it shows in their music. But this is the progression of music. Each genre has it's pioneers and it's descendants. The descendants always have it easier because they're just walking in the footsteps of the pioneers.
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midwestwannabryder just created 4 new accounts to vote Atlanta :P
one i am not a wanna be like you ,fucking harter. two, i would never ever do anything like making more accounts for a stupid poll . i only have one account, hating jackass..
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Country Grammar is better than anything that came out of the snap genre
I can agree with that... I never liked D4L, DFB, or any of that bullshit but Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" was a banger and that is fact (see what I did there)
we can all agree on that . execpt for the Lil Jon's "Snap Ya Fingers" that shit was still wack as hell.
no it was not wack as hell that beat as tough and Lil Jon is Southern legend and E-40 is pioneer in the hip-hop game and that is fact so watch your mouth you dumb Cherokee
i am not dumb like your ignorant closeminded ass . Lil jon is Southern legend ,so fucking what . he was good up till he started dropping his own albums . yes ,E-40 is pioneer in the hip-hop game & one of my favortie bay mc's . so there was no hate towards E-40 . the song was wack because it was wack ass snap beat . snap music of any kind is wack & does not matter who is on the track . get over yourself.
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St Louis "ruined" Hip Hop? St Louis was such a small window of time. Nelly is not much different than an L.L. Cool J that his music is obviously geared towards the Mainstream (namely women) but he still can go "hard" on a track when needed. With that said, he never made the timely classics that L.L. made and Nelly's music did not change or revolutionize Hip Hop. He did come up Independently and wasn't made by a machine, ala Chingy. But Chingy is every Bay rapper or ever L.A. rapper that came on the scene after Short, E-40, Snoop etc. blew up. People were getting signed back in the day just on their region. The West Coast fans whined about the "hate" from the East and here we are some 15-20 years later, "paying it forward."
Atlanta. The fact that people are using D4L and DFB as their choices shows their lack of real knowledge. Snap music was, again, a very small window of time. That did not ruin Hip Hop. Why no mention of such great fad Hip Hop Dance tracks like "The Jerk" or "The Cat Daddy" or "The Dougie" or virtually any Bay Area song that has to do with the Thizz Dance/Going Hyphy? Did California ruin Hip Hop with these songs? Nope.
New Orleans. People will dislike anything popular. But, Lil Wayne has been making music since he was a young teenage. He's been in the game since the 90s. It's not like he was built by a machine either. His first few albums did nothing. As he grew older and Cash Money started using other producers, his style changed. When he was making his Squad Up Mixtapes nobody was yelling about how bad New Orleans is/was. Now that he's popular people want to talk all that. He's no different today than a Snoop Doog. If we're going to talk lyrics and the biggest from this are is STILL Snoop, let's not talk lyrics. As for the rest of the New Orleans scene. If anyone can sit here and say I'm Bout It, Ice Cream Man, Ghetto D, The Shocker, True, Down South Hustlers, Tru-2-Da Game etc. etc. were not great albums and had a bunch of bangers.
No one region ruined Hip Hop. Things that ruined Hip Hop were the lack of the proper outlets. The Magazines aren't what they used to be. The Radio/TV personalities either ride the D (Sway MTV, Big Boy Power 106) or try too hard to be "real" (Kay Slay & The Breakfast Club). It's so easy to get on now, so people don't have to struggle. The days of guys like Master P selling from their Trunk. Nelly or Dirty (the duo from Alabama) getting so popular in their city and selling out completely in stores WITHOUT Radio play. People vibing in a record studio and making a bunch of solid music. I can go on, but not having the things I mentioned is what's hurting Hip Hop. 80s and 90s Hip Hop had a lot of struggle behind it. The younger artists did not have to struggle like that and it shows in their music. But this is the progression of music. Each genre has it's pioneers and it's descendants. The descendants always have it easier because they're just walking in the footsteps of the pioneers.
+1
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Nelly has classics for days. But they're classic POP songs.
It wasn't a region it was record label execs that ruined hip-hop.
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lil wayne is no different than snoop dogg? spoken like a true euro. by the way does anyone have the nelly country grammar remix with e-40? i actually like that one haha
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lil wayne is no different than snoop dogg? spoken like a true euro. by the way does anyone have the nelly country grammar remix with e-40? i actually like that one haha
there was a remix? I need that lol
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St Louis "ruined" Hip Hop? St Louis was such a small window of time. Nelly is not much different than an L.L. Cool J that his music is obviously geared towards the Mainstream (namely women) but he still can go "hard" on a track when needed. With that said, he never made the timely classics that L.L. made and Nelly's music did not change or revolutionize Hip Hop. He did come up Independently and wasn't made by a machine, ala Chingy. But Chingy is every Bay rapper or ever L.A. rapper that came on the scene after Short, E-40, Snoop etc. blew up. People were getting signed back in the day just on their region. The West Coast fans whined about the "hate" from the East and here we are some 15-20 years later, "paying it forward."
Atlanta. The fact that people are using D4L and DFB as their choices shows their lack of real knowledge. Snap music was, again, a very small window of time. That did not ruin Hip Hop. Why no mention of such great fad Hip Hop Dance tracks like "The Jerk" or "The Cat Daddy" or "The Dougie" or virtually any Bay Area song that has to do with the Thizz Dance/Going Hyphy? Did California ruin Hip Hop with these songs? Nope.
New Orleans. People will dislike anything popular. But, Lil Wayne has been making music since he was a young teenage. He's been in the game since the 90s. It's not like he was built by a machine either. His first few albums did nothing. As he grew older and Cash Money started using other producers, his style changed. When he was making his Squad Up Mixtapes nobody was yelling about how bad New Orleans is/was. Now that he's popular people want to talk all that. He's no different today than a Snoop Doog. If we're going to talk lyrics and the biggest from this are is STILL Snoop, let's not talk lyrics. As for the rest of the New Orleans scene. If anyone can sit here and say I'm Bout It, Ice Cream Man, Ghetto D, The Shocker, True, Down South Hustlers, Tru-2-Da Game etc. etc. were not great albums and had a bunch of bangers.
No one region ruined Hip Hop. Things that ruined Hip Hop were the lack of the proper outlets. The Magazines aren't what they used to be. The Radio/TV personalities either ride the D (Sway MTV, Big Boy Power 106) or try too hard to be "real" (Kay Slay & The Breakfast Club). It's so easy to get on now, so people don't have to struggle. The days of guys like Master P selling from their Trunk. Nelly or Dirty (the duo from Alabama) getting so popular in their city and selling out completely in stores WITHOUT Radio play. People vibing in a record studio and making a bunch of solid music. I can go on, but not having the things I mentioned is what's hurting Hip Hop. 80s and 90s Hip Hop had a lot of struggle behind it. The younger artists did not have to struggle like that and it shows in their music. But this is the progression of music. Each genre has it's pioneers and it's descendants. The descendants always have it easier because they're just walking in the footsteps of the pioneers.
I guess a more appropriate title would have been "Which region has the worst rappers" in which case St. Louis still takes the cake and the icing with dudes like Nelly, Murphy Lee, Chingy, Huey, etc.
every other region has way more good rappers than shitty ones like Stl
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St Louis "ruined" Hip Hop? St Louis was such a small window of time. Nelly is not much different than an L.L. Cool J that his music is obviously geared towards the Mainstream (namely women) but he still can go "hard" on a track when needed. With that said, he never made the timely classics that L.L. made and Nelly's music did not change or revolutionize Hip Hop. He did come up Independently and wasn't made by a machine, ala Chingy. But Chingy is every Bay rapper or ever L.A. rapper that came on the scene after Short, E-40, Snoop etc. blew up. People were getting signed back in the day just on their region. The West Coast fans whined about the "hate" from the East and here we are some 15-20 years later, "paying it forward."
Atlanta. The fact that people are using D4L and DFB as their choices shows their lack of real knowledge. Snap music was, again, a very small window of time. That did not ruin Hip Hop. Why no mention of such great fad Hip Hop Dance tracks like "The Jerk" or "The Cat Daddy" or "The Dougie" or virtually any Bay Area song that has to do with the Thizz Dance/Going Hyphy? Did California ruin Hip Hop with these songs? Nope.
New Orleans. People will dislike anything popular. But, Lil Wayne has been making music since he was a young teenage. He's been in the game since the 90s. It's not like he was built by a machine either. His first few albums did nothing. As he grew older and Cash Money started using other producers, his style changed. When he was making his Squad Up Mixtapes nobody was yelling about how bad New Orleans is/was. Now that he's popular people want to talk all that. He's no different today than a Snoop Doog. If we're going to talk lyrics and the biggest from this are is STILL Snoop, let's not talk lyrics. As for the rest of the New Orleans scene. If anyone can sit here and say I'm Bout It, Ice Cream Man, Ghetto D, The Shocker, True, Down South Hustlers, Tru-2-Da Game etc. etc. were not great albums and had a bunch of bangers.
No one region ruined Hip Hop. Things that ruined Hip Hop were the lack of the proper outlets. The Magazines aren't what they used to be. The Radio/TV personalities either ride the D (Sway MTV, Big Boy Power 106) or try too hard to be "real" (Kay Slay & The Breakfast Club). It's so easy to get on now, so people don't have to struggle. The days of guys like Master P selling from their Trunk. Nelly or Dirty (the duo from Alabama) getting so popular in their city and selling out completely in stores WITHOUT Radio play. People vibing in a record studio and making a bunch of solid music. I can go on, but not having the things I mentioned is what's hurting Hip Hop. 80s and 90s Hip Hop had a lot of struggle behind it. The younger artists did not have to struggle like that and it shows in their music. But this is the progression of music. Each genre has it's pioneers and it's descendants. The descendants always have it easier because they're just walking in the footsteps of the pioneers.
I guess a more appropriate title would have been "Which region has the worst rappers" in which case St. Louis still takes the cake and the icing with dudes like Nelly, Murphy Lee, Chingy, Huey, etc.
every other region has way more good rappers than shitty ones like Stl
Spoken like true ignorant closeminded hater of STL . you have no clue about rappers & mc's of STL . go check out tef poe,Gena, city spud ,domino, & slyk smoov. you just named only main stream rappers from st louis . murphy lee is real good & just shows you have no idea what your talking about at all. STL does not have worst rappers at all . dallas is way worst then any other place . so stop being STL hater because that is all you do .
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Atlanta has produced the shittiest rappers by far. I don't even know how that's arguable.
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Atlanta has produced the shittiest rappers by far. I don't even know how that's arguable.
OutKast, Goodie Mob, Killer Mike, Ludacris, Stat Quo, Young Jeezy, T.I., Pill, Cyhi The Prynce, etc...
who from St. Louis can match any of those names? the only shitty rappers that ATL is responsible for is Dem Franchise Boyz, D4L, OJ Da Juiceman, etc.
you could make an argument for Gucci and Waka but they both have some bangers here and there
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Atlanta has produced the shittiest rappers by far. I don't even know how that's arguable.
OutKast, Goodie Mob, Killer Mike, Ludacris, Stat Quo, Young Jeezy, T.I., Pill, Cyhi The Prynce, etc...
who from St. Louis can match any of those names? the only shitty rappers that ATL is responsible for is Dem Franchise Boyz, D4L, OJ Da Juiceman, etc.
you could make an argument for Gucci and Waka but they both have some bangers here and there
Oh no doubt Atlanta has better rappers as well. But the names you mentioned are far shittier than Nelly.