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Title: "Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: kalliweed on March 06, 2003, 05:54:49 AM
I jus check the hot 100 charts and Beautiful went up to 10 spots from 32 to 22..i know dr.dre is a better producer than tha neptunes but u gotta give dem props its bigger than all the songs dr.dre produce for snoop eva since 'Gin n Juice..PLEASE DONT GET ME WRONG CUZ "BITCH PLEASE" IS WAY HOTTER THAN "BEAUTIFUL" BUT IT WAS'NT THAT SUCCESSFUL ON THE CHARTS LIKE "BEAUTIFUL" THE ALBUM ALSO WENT UP 5 SPOTS,NOT A BIG LEAP BUT ITS STILL GOOD,IAM THINKING THE ALBUM SHOULD GO PLATIUM SOON CUZ "FROM THA CHUUCH TO THA PALACE" WAS'NT THAT SUCCESSFUL AND IT BROUGHT THE ALBUM TO GOLD SO LETS WATCH AND SEE IF SNOOP REALLY CAN SHOW IS NAY-SAYERS THAT HE CAN DO IT WITHOUT DR.DRE...AS FOR ME I THINK HE CAN..JUS RELEASE "LONGBEACH TO BRICKCITY" WHICH I ALREADY HEARD DEM PLAYING IT IN A CLUB IN ATLANTA BUT THAT WAS WAY BEFORE BEAUTIFUL RELEASE OR HE CAN RELEASE "LOLIPOP" WHICH WOULD BLOW THA FUCK UP CUZ SNOOP LYRICS IZ ON POINT AND UMM SOOPAFLY WOULD HAVE ALOT OF PUBLICITY TO SET HIM UP FOR HIS NEW ALBUM PLUS JIGGA MAN IZ ON IT AND DA BEAT IZ HOT!!
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Trauma-san on March 06, 2003, 07:10:49 AM
I dunno man.  Do you really think this single is bigger than everything he's done since Gin and Juice?
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: teecee on March 06, 2003, 07:43:16 AM
Well, right now if the NEptunes produce your single it will usually blow up.......they have produced hits for everyone from Snoop to Justin Timberlake to Britney to No Doubt to etc etc........ NO surprise this song is blowing up, but in all fairness i would say the song is popualr cuz its Neptunes production moreso than cuz it is a SNoop song.......
    As for SNoops biggest single since Gin and Juice, you might be forgetting Doggydoggworld.  And this wont touch Bitch Please either, but ya, other than that, this could be the biggest and most successful becuase SNoop usually releases the worst songs as singles.  
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 06, 2003, 05:02:22 PM
WTF?! "Beutifull" aint even that big...I rarely hear it and I live in LA...
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: EM28 on March 06, 2003, 05:05:18 PM
WTF?! "Beutifull" aint even that big...I rarely hear it and I live in LA...

yeah i know....

peace
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: platinumk777 on March 06, 2003, 06:43:18 PM
I jus check the hot 100 charts and Beautiful went up to 10 spots from 32 to 22..i know dr.dre is a better producer than tha neptunes but u gotta give dem props its bigger than all the songs dr.dre produce for snoop eva since 'Gin n Juice..PLEASE DONT GET ME WRONG CUZ "BITCH PLEASE" IS WAY HOTTER THAN "BEAUTIFUL" BUT IT WAS'NT THAT SUCCESSFUL ON THE CHARTS LIKE "BEAUTIFUL" THE ALBUM ALSO WENT UP 5 SPOTS,NOT A BIG LEAP BUT ITS STILL GOOD,IAM THINKING THE ALBUM SHOULD GO PLATIUM SOON CUZ "FROM THA CHUUCH TO THA PALACE" WAS'NT THAT SUCCESSFUL AND IT BROUGHT THE ALBUM TO GOLD SO LETS WATCH AND SEE IF SNOOP REALLY CAN SHOW IS NAY-SAYERS THAT HE CAN DO IT WITHOUT DR.DRE...AS FOR ME I THINK HE CAN..JUS RELEASE "LONGBEACH TO BRICKCITY" WHICH I ALREADY HEARD DEM PLAYING IT IN A CLUB IN ATLANTA BUT THAT WAS WAY BEFORE BEAUTIFUL RELEASE OR HE CAN RELEASE "LOLIPOP" WHICH WOULD BLOW THA FUCK UP CUZ SNOOP LYRICS IZ ON POINT AND UMM SOOPAFLY WOULD HAVE ALOT OF PUBLICITY TO SET HIM UP FOR HIS NEW ALBUM PLUS JIGGA MAN IZ ON IT AND DA BEAT IZ HOT!!

I wish I was as optimistic as you. The fact is, his sales are still shitty... he ain't even in the top 50 (according to hitsdailydouble.com), which means sales still remain less than 20K a week.  :-\
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: PLANT on March 06, 2003, 07:24:07 PM
I dont understand how people can call Snoop sales shittty?  They may be below Snoop sales-standards, but he still outsells other top-notch artists like Busta Rhymes, Xzibit, ect ect who are all credible artsits.  Sales aint no thing to Snoop anymore, hes established himself now so he can make whatever music he wants.  Its only going to make his legacy better becuase hes making so many different styles of music by the time his careers done, he be like "i did it all" and moved with the times and made timeless music.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Jome on March 06, 2003, 08:51:09 PM
I dont understand how people can call Snoop sales shittty?  They may be below Snoop sales-standards, but he still outsells other top-notch artists like Busta Rhymes, Xzibit, ect ect who are all credible artsits.  Sales aint no thing to Snoop anymore, hes established himself now so he can make whatever music he wants.  Its only going to make his legacy better becuase hes making so many different styles of music by the time his careers done, he be like "i did it all" and moved with the times and made timeless music.

Standard for Snoop is about double platinum.
That would make "not platinum yet" kinda weak doesn't it ??
And he hasn't outsold neither Xzibit or Busta Rhymes by a longshot yet.
Busta's was even a mega-flop, so that's a rather weak comparison..

All in all, I don't think this album deserves more than gold-status.. and Last Meal rightfully deserved it's 2x Plat. status.. imo.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: kalliweed on March 07, 2003, 04:01:59 AM
hitsdailydouble.com aint billboard..go check billboard.com right now..snoop is number 45 so he is in the number top 50..u jus str8 hatin ...tell me which muthafucka in da rap industry came out 92 and 11 year later still fuckin up da charts and goin double plat??
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: PLANT on March 07, 2003, 09:00:13 AM


Standard for Snoop is about double platinum.
That would make "not platinum yet" kinda weak doesn't it ??
And he hasn't outsold neither Xzibit or Busta Rhymes by a longshot yet.
Busta's was even a mega-flop, so that's a rather weak comparison..

All in all, I don't think this album deserves more than gold-status.. and Last Meal rightfully deserved it's 2x Plat. status.. imo.
Jome, who made it up to you to decide what the standards are for an artist?  I really dont think Snoop gives a fuck how many copies his album sold, hes been making timeless music for over a decade now.  Paid tha Cost is just as good as Last Meal, its just not selling as much becuase unfortunatly in this day an age, you wont sell records unless your Eminem, JayZ, or Nelly....and now 50...but hey, maybe your just hating becuase Snoop is going to outsell Xzibit and you know he made a better record than X2thaZ did this time around.  Point is, just becuase Snoop isnt pushing 2x plat doesnt mean his album is weak.   Snoop still outsells a ton of other major artists in the game.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on March 07, 2003, 10:22:36 AM
I dont understand how people can call Snoop sales shittty?  They may be below Snoop sales-standards, but he still outsells other top-notch artists like Busta Rhymes, Xzibit, ect ect who are all credible artsits.  Sales aint no thing to Snoop anymore, hes established himself now so he can make whatever music he wants.  Its only going to make his legacy better becuase hes making so many different styles of music by the time his careers done, he be like "i did it all" and moved with the times and made timeless music.

WORD!!
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on March 07, 2003, 10:24:02 AM
I dunno man.  Do you really think this single is bigger than everything he's done since Gin and Juice?

Godamn, i dont think so at all, in fact im not that big a fan of the video either.. Gin and Juice is way muh-fuckin better!!

I holla!
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: AlerG on March 07, 2003, 10:27:06 AM
i read someone say that you won't sell records unless you are eminem, nelly, or 50...which is funny, because i bet that's what peeps on the eastcoast said back in 93...saying you won't sell records unless you're snoop, dre, ordeath row affiliated, peace.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: bayballin420.com on March 07, 2003, 11:04:44 AM
na no way i dont think so
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: verbalassaulta on March 07, 2003, 01:41:46 PM
WTF...boy its really easy to spot a snoop dick rider....anyway...its not that big...not bigger than bitch please, lay low, or even still a g thang....and not only that its not really that good a song...i kinda think snoop sold out with this and is getting some radio play right next to the likes of ja rule, nelly and missy eliot...just what snoops all about huh
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: TOOTHBRUSH on March 07, 2003, 05:46:36 PM
WTF...boy its really easy to spot a snoop dick rider....anyway...its not that big...not bigger than bitch please, lay low, or even still a g thang....and not only that its not really that good a song...i kinda think snoop sold out with this and is getting some radio play right next to the likes of ja rule, nelly and missy eliot...just what snoops all about huh


i agree, but i don't think he went as far as ja rule did he was still rappin about wearin dark blue and shit and it was about his wife for one song......ja rule does this on alomost every single............I DON'T WANT ANOTHER "BEAUTIFUL" THOUGH!!!!!!
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Jome on March 07, 2003, 08:43:35 PM

Jome, who made it up to you to decide what the standards are for an artist?  I really dont think Snoop gives a fuck how many copies his album sold, hes been making timeless music for over a decade now.  Paid tha Cost is just as good as Last Meal, its just not selling as much becuase unfortunatly in this day an age, you wont sell records unless your Eminem, JayZ, or Nelly....and now 50...but hey, maybe your just hating becuase Snoop is going to outsell Xzibit and you know he made a better record than X2thaZ did this time around.  Point is, just becuase Snoop isnt pushing 2x plat doesnt mean his album is weak.   Snoop still outsells a ton of other major artists in the game.

LoL.
Why you gotta make this a Xzibit vs. Snoop thing ???
And when you're used to sell at least 2x plat.. everything else is a letdown to every artist, even how much money you got.

PTCTBTB was Snoop's 2nd weakest to date, according to LOTS of Snoop-fans.
Including myself, and I got every Snoop Dogg album OG.
The production was around average from a platinum-artist, and when Snoop ran out of gangsta-material to rap about, he's starting love-songs instead.
What's saving the album is Premo-production, and Goldie Loc's contribution IMO.
Goldie & Tray is the proteges turned masters.

But hey.. I give up. Snoop is the greatest rapper in the world! And all his albums is 2nd to none!!
He's superior to every other rapper, and he's even the best singer!  :P
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: A.P 18:3 MAKAVELI on March 07, 2003, 09:42:00 PM
no way gin and juice is way better than beautiful the beautiful video is ok but its not that good

           peace out
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: EM28 on March 07, 2003, 10:00:03 PM
no way gin and juice is way better than beautiful the beautiful video is ok but its not that good

           peace out

yeah i agree with you no way is beautiful better than gin and juice..

peace
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Rag_J on March 09, 2003, 12:00:00 PM
I'm glad a westcoast name gets airplay.. :)



But hey, like someone said, Snoop don't need to sell records any more, 'cause he got money coming in from all other angles, he got the freedom to do records he like, and not have to think about how many units he sells. I must admit I didn't feel Paid Tha Cost To Be Da Boss, but on the other hand, it really shows that Snoop is one of the most versatile rappers around.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Rag_J on March 09, 2003, 12:02:24 PM
And besides, if Paid Tha Cost goes platinum he'll have 8 platinum albums (Doggystyle, Doggfather, Da Game is to Be Sold, Top Dogg, Tha Last Meal, Paid THa Cost, Tha Eastisdaz, Dueces N Trays) if you count the eastsidaz albums.. I guess that speaks for itself..I might be wrong, but I think he's the only rapper? Anybody know for sure?
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: Murrow on March 12, 2003, 03:20:51 PM
I gotta agree.  This is blowing up, I think it is a great spring break anthem.  The video is fly, and it is just a dope song people can have fun to.
Title: Re:"Beautiful iz da biggest single eva since "Gin n Juice"..hands down!!
Post by: topdogg187 on March 12, 2003, 03:54:25 PM
I gotta agree.  This is blowing up, I think it is a great spring break anthem.  The video is fly, and it is just a dope song people can have fun to.

couldn't have said it better!