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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: mauzip on March 10, 2003, 06:24:13 AM
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bush said america will attack iraq with or without permission of the united nations. opinion?
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I say since Saadam has lied 17 times about dissarming, which he himself has agreed to do, 17 times, sure, we've been waiting long enough. Blow up some military targets, see if his opinion changes, then if not, remove him from power.
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american attack on iraq = war crime
a new era is about to begin. if fdr only knew...
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America and Britain : interested in iraqi oil and power
France and Russia : interested in iraqi oil
Sad but true. These fools are cut from the same cloth.
As for going to war without a resolution, that is a war crime, and I hope they will be punished for it. Blair will almost certainly lose his leadership.
America and britain will be isolated UNLESS a majority (not inc veto) of 9 vote in favour. Otherwise, we are looking at an illegitimate war that is not better than the wars these countries try to prevent in other parts of the world.
I want saddam ousted more than i want the wmd gone. But i think we should settle for the destruction of weapond which is happening, slowly bt surely. Give a timetable to gradually disarm EVERYTHING. if he fails to meet a deadline then kill the fucker
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The UN no longer has a use. The US and UK have enough allies. To leave Saddam in power is to doom the entire Iraqi population to misery for the rest of their natural lives. To remove him may cost civilian lives, but it will make many more happy.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. India and America support a war; Russia opposes; and China doesn't care. In terms of foreign powers, the pro-war group wins. In terms of the Iraqi people, this war can only help them.
And if you're so opposed to Bush and war, why don't you go and help Saddam fight him?
HEIL AGUA!
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The UN no longer has a use. The US and UK have enough allies. To leave Saddam in power is to doom the entire Iraqi population to misery for the rest of their natural lives. To remove him may cost civilian lives, but it will make many more happy.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. India and America support a war; Russia opposes; and China doesn't care. In terms of foreign powers, the pro-war group wins. In terms of the Iraqi people, this war can only help them.
And if you're so opposed to Bush and war, why don't you go and help Saddam fight him?
HEIL AGUA!
Yse my brother...HEIL AGUA!!! :D
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Give a timetable to gradually disarm EVERYTHING. if he fails to meet a deadline then kill the fucker
Hows 9 or so years for a deadline?
He's had 9 years to disarm, and what he did was tell everyone to fuck off...
Giving him more time is nothing but foolishness...he needs to removed NOW!
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The UN no longer has a use. The US and UK have enough allies. To leave Saddam in power is to doom the entire Iraqi population to misery for the rest of their natural lives. To remove him may cost
civilian lives, but it will make many more happy.
the expert on foreign policies has spoken..... leave it to the real ones, your opinion on the topic just proves your ignorance. besides, have you ever taken a look at the un charta of human rights?
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
take a look at the un charta of human rights....
And if you're so opposed to Bush and war, why don't you go and help Saddam fight him?
HEIL AGUA!
your obsession with me being german is quite strange. ironically, i'm afro-german. thus your joke is nothing but useless - it isn't even funny. by the way, opposed to war means opposed to war. hence i'd never participate in a war. i know that guys like you think in terms of black and white, good vs. evil and yes or no. some peeps, however, prefer to use their brain and think.
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Yse my brother...HEIL AGUA!!! :D
the teenager found it funny... well....go and watch baywatch or whatever... but please don't forget the handkerchiefs, little man. your mum will appreciate it.
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Give a timetable to gradually disarm EVERYTHING. if he fails to meet a deadline then kill the fucker
Hows 9 or so years for a deadline?
He's had 9 years to disarm, and what he did was tell everyone to fuck off...
Giving him more time is nothing but foolishness...he needs to removed NOW!
if the media hadn't come up with the topic you wouldn't even think about it. i agree that saddam has to be removed since he's a brutal and ruthless murderer. yet, i think there are several other opportunities in order to get rid of that guy than waging a war on this devasteted country. the iraqi have suffered too long and this has to be stopped right now. y'all know that a war would result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
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I'll just go and sit with the finest minds in the country and talk with them as an equal. Obviously they, too, are ignorant.
And yes, I've read the UN Charter. And I disagree with it. Humanitarian wars are justifiable. Did the British Empire ask permission to stamp out slavery?
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P.S. I believe Saddam and his friends should be assassinated, rather than going to war.
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And yes, I've read the UN Charter. And I disagree with it. Humanitarian wars are justifiable. Did the British Empire ask permission to stamp out slavery?
thanks, the argument is over. no need to respond to this.
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I will anyway. And we all know you're just stumped. Don't pretend like you disdain me, as we all know the truth.
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P.S. I believe Saddam and his friends should be assassinated, rather than going to war.
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i really start to get more to the pro-war side. for a long time i was in the yes/no area, but saddam houssein must be disarmed and if that will mean the end of the united nations... so be it. a lot of western countries depend on america, so they will lick america's ass afterwards anyway.
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i really start to get more to the pro-war side. for a long time i was in the yes/no area, but saddam houssein must be disarmed and if that will mean the end of the united nations... so be it. a lot of western countries depend on america, so they will lick america's ass afterwards anyway.
lol. it's always very easy to decide pro war if you're not involved. btw, what do you know about the un? i guess nothing. so please think twice before jumpin to the conclusion..
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Well, I'm allowed to comment, as my father will be in the line of fire if we do go to war, and as I understand deeply the workings of the UN. But hey, the anti-war stance has its own good reasons too. I just believe the pros outweigh the cons.
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i really start to get more to the pro-war side. for a long time i was in the yes/no area, but saddam houssein must be disarmed and if that will mean the end of the united nations... so be it. a lot of western countries depend on america, so they will lick america's ass afterwards anyway.
lol. it's always very easy to decide pro war if you're not involved. btw, what do you know about the un? i guess nothing. so please think twice before jumpin to the conclusion..
So if I can't have an opinion why can you? :-\ Think twice before making such a stupid comment. I know enough about the UN to have an opinion.
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I know enough about the UN to have an opinion.
i don't think so....
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I know enough about the UN to have an opinion.
i don't think so....
why not stupid little punk
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Yse my brother...HEIL AGUA!!! :D
the teenager found it funny... well....go and watch baywatch or whatever... but please don't forget the handkerchiefs, little man. your mum will appreciate it.
LOL Aguas gettin funnier...HAIL AGUA!!! ;D
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P.S. I believe Saddam and his friends should be assassinated, rather than going to war.
Yeah, I'd rather see this too. It's not gonna happen though, we don't work like that (for the life of me, I don't know why)
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that would be the best option. and if you wanna know why you dont do it think of this.... a good fighter will try and win in the ring on points, but a fighter who wants the weaker to fear him will beat a weaker man to a pulp. I know coz ive been on both ends of this, and it applies to the international scene.
Saddam has played the un members against each other because he knew people would see the war wasnt right, and he also knew us and britain would be stubborn bastards. This guy isnt worth disbanding the un. Before you say things like the un is useless, it is the only policing body, not us not britain, not france, everyone together. Its not perfect but bloody murder will break out if it becomes useless. US and britain should look at the wider picture and agree the only way to solve conflict is negotiation.
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i don't know where i stand on war but
if anyone saw that thing on MTV where they interviewed that iraqi kid (i dunno was like 16-17) dude seemed like an average teen ager and was OBSESSED with western culture, dude liked Will Smith and was in love with the Backstreet Boys, dude even did a 1 second song and dance of one of their songs. No taste in music but you'd think he'd like america from all the questions he answered. then they asked what he thought about 3,000 innocent people purposly being murdered and the Kid outright said "they deserved it".
give me all the bad Karma in the world you want but it's hard for me to feel bad for people who want to wrap themselves up with MY culture but want me dead.
now i'm not promoting the killing of the innocent here in iraq, cuz i'm not. But i think it's sad that someone can be opposed to accidental killing of the innocent which could/will happen with this iraqi war, but glorify the out right thought out killing of people who are ignorant/could give a fuck less about affairs in other countries. It's a hypocritical way of thought.
this also pisses me off too becuase not everyone in america wants to kill the innocent(95%) nor support the war (40%) but they still feel we (innocent americans) should die, for "what" our country/government "did" or "didn't" do to them. it's like damn! nevermind a grip of people in america are on your side assholes
so if we went to war ........i can't say i will sorry for the innocent who might or will die TOO MUCH
1. they've been warned of war for how long now? They should leave (america didn't get no mass warnings prior to Sept 11)
2. If we deserve to die beacause of what our leaders did , in their opinion.......why should that theory change now? (don't get me wrong i'm not rooting for the death of the innocent)
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But also i don't think we should go to war with Iraq because Iraq will be a threat. but N korea IS a threat.....is and will....big difference. right now we should be talking with Chino Elvis right now trying to get him to disarm first, then if he didn't disarm war with him.....i'd be willing to fight that fight.
But then i think we should becuase fuck i hate paying 2.30 a gallon for gas
but then i think we shouldn't becuase we would gain more homeland security by NOT pissing off more rag heads
but then i think we should becuase people like Saddam shouldn't be in power and be allowed to irritate us that much and cause this must strife between allies
but theni think we shouldn't becuase i heard it's going to be an urban warfare this time and why should we give innocent iraqis their Sept 11th? (even though it wouldn't beas tragic IMO)
but then we should becuase we've developed soooooooooo much techno wise that we could set records for least amount of unwanted casualties in warefare (according to the history channel's show they had on American arms)
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whatever happens i don't know where i stand and now i really don't care......IMO i think that all of us regular joes who dont have anyone in iraq or in the US/british army shouldn't concern themselves so much with this shit just hope that saddamm disarms and complies so we can have peace or hope that the war is only 3 days like the last one so we can concentrate on other things again