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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Blood$ on July 03, 2013, 11:16:44 PM
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1.Holy Grail feat. Justin Timberlake (Timbaland)
2.Picasso Baby (Timbaland)
3.Tom Ford (Timbaland)
4.FuckWithMeYouKnowIGotIt feat. Rick Ross (Boi-1da)
5.Oceans feat. Frank Ocean (Pharrell Williams)
6.F.U.T.W. (Timbaland)
7.SomeWhereInAmerica
8.Crown
9.Heaven (Timbaland)
10.Versus (Timbaland)
11.Part II (On The Run) feat. Beyoncé (Timbaland)
12.Beach Is Better (Mike Will Made It)
13.BBC feat. Pharrell, Nas, Justin Timberlake, Beyoncé, Swizz Beatz & Timbaland (Pharrell Williams)
14.Jay-Z Blue (Timbaland)
15.La Familia (Timbaland)
16.Nickles & Dimes (Kyambo 'Hip Hop' Joshu)
and none of my normal sites are loading up atm... won't front I'm curious to hear this one when traffic clears up on the net
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(http://i.imgur.com/vl32kpy.jpg)
1.Holy Grail feat. Justin Timberlake (Timbaland)
2.Picasso Baby (Timbaland)
3.Tom Ford (Timbaland)
4.FuckWithMeYouKnowIGotIt feat. Rick Ross (Boi-1da)
5.Oceans feat. Frank Ocean (Pharrell Williams)
6.F.U.T.W. (Timbaland)
7.SomeWhereInAmerica
8.Crown
9.Heaven (Timbaland)
10.Versus (Timbaland)
11.Part II (On The Run) feat. Beyoncé (Timbaland)
12.Beach Is Better (Mike Will Made It)
13.BBC feat. Pharrell, Nas, Justin Timberlake, Beyoncé, Swizz Beatz & Timbaland (Pharrell Williams)
14.Jay-Z Blue (Timbaland)
15.La Familia (Timbaland)
16.Nickles & Dimes (Kyambo 'Hip Hop' Joshu)
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I'm not a fan of JT, but thanks to him this song will be a HIT all over the world. Now i know why jt and jay z will tour together this summer.
http://www.youtube.com/v/DQp0f8esBUk
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I like the beat. Jiggaman and JT, not so much. Thanks for posting.
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merged all the new jay-z threads into one. and no download links plz.
album sounds pretty good, timbaland back with some dirty beats again.
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just skimming through some of those beats sounded epic as fuck, like old classic Roc style
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I haven't bumped yet. But my expectations are Yeezus with better lyrics. Which would be spectacular for me...a fan of music...who won't hate on this album because Tupac hated him...who won't compare it to Reasonable Doubt...who wouldn't accidentally write "7/4/96" if I had to fill out random paperwork that asked me for the date...
So I'm amped.
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jay said it's an experimental album but i'm not hearing it, especially compared to the kanye. and that's a good thing, timbaland hasn't put of hip hop beats like this in a minute.
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Halfway through. This is serious.
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the second beat in picasso baby is a jam :monkey_dance2:
and BBC is pretty damn awesome 8)
jay z blue is another of the best. this is instantly one of the more listenable jay z albums of recent years. i can nod my head to more of this than BP3.
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and BBC is pretty damn awesome 8)
Damn that's a rough quote to tie your name to.
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wow that holy grail song is GOD AWFUL
seriously timberlake is such a shitty singer with that whiney-ass voice. and that has nothing to do with him being a straight up undercover faggot who's N Sync days shall never be forgotten.
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jay said it's an experimental album but i'm not hearing it.
Defusing expectation. Emperors new clothes tactics.
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
just about right.
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
just about right.
Yeah it builds up towards the end then drops off again. Don't Jay got enough dope material to fill an album?
Its a 6 - 6.5/10, same as Kanye
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
just about right.
Yeah it builds up towards the end then drops off again. Don't Jay got enough dope material to fill an album?
Its a 6 - 6.5/10, same as Kanye
LOL another disappointment. I like the part 2 song wit beyonce though.
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
just about right.
Yeah it builds up towards the end then drops off again. Don't Jay got enough dope material to fill an album?
Its a 6 - 6.5/10, same as Kanye
LOL another disappointment. I like the part 2 song wit beyonce though.
Yeah 80's style synth keys sound nice.
Good radio track, I'll stick to my old school shit tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13DA0h5EQ4
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I actually think this is a terrible album.
Not finished yet, but I'm predicting a 6/10 album from the vibe so far.
just about right.
Yeah it builds up towards the end then drops off again. Don't Jay got enough dope material to fill an album?
Its a 6 - 6.5/10, same as Kanye
LOL another disappointment. I like the part 2 song wit beyonce though.
Yeah 80's style synth keys sound nice.
Good radio track, I'll stick to my old school shit tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13DA0h5EQ4
I can dig it. 8)
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Hands down his best work since The Black Album. Production is so on point. Jay flows. Ain't nothing wrong with this, just mad dude is styling on you guys heavy.
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Hands down his best work since The Black Album. Production is so on point. Jay flows. Ain't nothing wrong with this, just mad dude is styling on you guys heavy.
LOL this album has nothin' on kingdom come or american gangster.
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This album shits all over YEEZUS
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I fucked with those album too. The production on this is head & shoulders better.
La Familia is the worst song by far, but you hear the difference. Those albums had tons of songs like that.
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This album shits all over YEEZUS
From a Hip Hop perspective, completely. Jay's spitting on this. Jay clearly going for a rap theme; Kanye tried to just form his own genre with "Yeezus".
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I fucked with those album too. The production on this is head & shoulders better.
La Familia is the worst song by far, but you hear the difference. Those albums had tons of songs like that.
the production on kingdom come was incredible.
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I fucked with those album too. The production on this is head & shoulders better.
La Familia is the worst song by far, but you hear the difference. Those albums had tons of songs like that.
the production on kingdom come was incredible.
Yeah, the song lol.
Only the three Dre beats & Blaze was dope.
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I fucked with those album too. The production on this is head & shoulders better.
La Familia is the worst song by far, but you hear the difference. Those albums had tons of songs like that.
the production on kingdom come was incredible.
Yeah, the song lol.
Only the three Dre beats & Blaze was dope.
the beat kanye did and the joint swizz did was fire too.
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As a whole body of work I'll take MCHG. Sounds like more of a complete album.
Can't wait to get a copy of this in the whip.
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As a whole body of work I'll take MCHG. Sounds like more of a complete album.
Can't wait to get a copy of this in the whip.
turn up !!!!!
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on my second spin now, pretty dope album, im feelin it! 8)
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first album I'm copping since American Gangster... this shit was dope all the way through and Jay was actually dropping game on this one not just entertaining and doing money raps 8)
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Somewhereinamerica is just BANANAS.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7HGDbR5cfM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7HGDbR5cfM
Lol @ him hating on Picasso. Any fan of Hip Hop can fuck with that song.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7HGDbR5cfM
Lol @ him hating on Picasso. Any fan of Hip Hop can fuck with that song.
that shit light. LOL
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HOV! Still killin' niggas at 43, just sayin'..
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1.Holy Grail feat. Justin Timberlake (Timbaland)
2.Picasso Baby (Timbaland)
4.FuckWithMeYouKnowIGotIt feat. Rick Ross (Boi-1da)
5.Oceans feat. Frank Ocean (Pharrell Williams)
6.F.U.T.W. (Timbaland)
7.SomeWhereInAmerica
9.Heaven (Timbaland)
13.BBC feat. Pharrell, Nas, Justin Timberlake, Beyoncé, Swizz Beatz & Timbaland (Pharrell Williams)
my favorite joints off top... crazy album for real, looking forward to it thumping the whip much more once I get the actual CD 8)
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SomeWhereInAmerica is joint of the season.
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Production is solid. I'd probably actually prefer an instrumental version, to be honest. Either way, though, I do appreciate the continuity of having one producer do 85% of the album.
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SomeWhereInAmerica is joint of the season.
I mean if this is your cup of tea it's cool but this ain't that slum livin' joint though.
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Jay-Z 'Magna Carta Holy Grail' app cloned by hackers
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68564000/jpg/_68564006_3cce09a6-42eb-4f3a-837e-460175e6a694.jpg)
The official app is being used by the rapper as a way to promote his latest album - Magna Carta Holy Grail.
Cloned versions of the app available via unofficial sites contain code that unlocked anti-Obama messages on 4 July.
The attack is believed to be part of protests against US government surveillance programs revealed this month.
Security firm McAfee discovered the app on third-party Android app sites. In a blogpost, McAfee researcher Irfan Asrar said the program initially appeared to do everything that the official app did.
However, he wrote, code added to the cloned version copied and sent information to a command-and-control server every time the phone was re-started. Once it made contact, the app tried to download extra code that included the anti-government images and messages.
A timer in this extra code waited for 4 July and then changed the app's wallpaper from pictures of album artwork and Jay-Z to that of President Obama wearing headphones. Above his image were the words "Yes we scan"- believed to be a reference to the NSA's extensive Prism scanning system. It is also plays on the slogan that President Obama campaigned under "Yes, we can."
"The image and the service name NSAListener suggest a hacktivist agenda," wrote Mr Asrar, "but we haven't ruled out the possibility that additional malware may target financial transactions or other data."
To avoid falling victim to this and other mobile threats, users should avoid downloading apps from unofficial sources and ensure security software is kept up to date, he added.
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Jay-Z's twelfth studio album is his most vacuous yet; "a mess, and not even an entertaining one".
Jay-Z’s released a fair amount of average material in his time. For every Reasonable Doubt in his catalogue there’s a Kingdom Come, and generally speaking this is something that Jay-Z fans are fine with. He releases too regularly to smack it out the park every time, but he’s so easy to listen to and so natural at making hits that even the weaker records are enjoyable, even if it’s just on the basis of a couple of bangers. Roc la Familia? Sure, it’s an average, distracted album, but any world without ‘I Just Wanna Love U’ in it is a far poorer place. Blueprint 3? Not even close to his best LPs, yet it spawned ‘Run this Town’, ‘On to the Next One’ and ‘Empire State of Mind’. Jay’s always been somebody you can rally behind. He gets a free pass where others wouldn’t. But with Magna Carta… Holy Grail, he’s released one of the most vacuous big name records I’ve heard in a long time.
Comparing Magna Carta to Kanye West’s Yeezus, released less than a month before it, is so obvious that it seems crude, but when they use several of the same traits to vastly different effect it’s impossible not to. Both were trailed by notable pre-release campaigns, Yeezus for its live videos, surprise projections and outspoken interviews, Magna Carta for a money-spinning tie-in with Samsung. Both feature some of the year’s most memorable rap lines, but where Kanye’s might be questionable (stand up, “Put my fist in her like the civil rights sign”), they’re at least delivered with impact and divide opinion. Is there anyone who thinks Magna Carta’s “Twerk like Miley Cyrus” or “I don’t pop molly, I rock Tom Ford … Tom Ford / Tom Ford / Tom Ford” lines are anything more than cheap meme bait? Even better, on ‘Oceans’ Jay forces in a cack-handed reference to Billie Holiday’s ‘Strange Fruit’ (already infamously used on Yeezus‘s ‘Blood on the Leaves’) without backing it up or even making it a prominent part of the song. It becomes just another half-thought cultural reference on an album that, with its constant references to Picasso and Basquiat and takes on ‘Losing my Religion’ and ‘Smells like Teen Spirit’, was already drowning in them.
Where Yeezus pulls material from its guest stars that you wouldn’t expect – see Chief Keef’s chorus on ‘Hold my Liquor’ that could prompt an essay on Kanye’s relationship to Keef, Chicago and the public eye, or Assassin’s show-stealing turn on ‘I’m In It’ – Rick Ross’s verse on ‘Fuckwitmeigotit’ is a depressing microcosm of Magna Carta. It’s sluggish and limp over a weedy beat, and whether “Reeboks on, I just do it” is a senseless shot at Ross’s former sponsors (who rightly dropped him over a date rape reference on Rocko’s ‘U.O.E.N.O.’; if it is a shot, then his apology rings even more hollow) or just a bored man confusing his slogans, it’s lame as hell. The song closes on one of the most empty couplets on an album full of them, Ross’s “got a bad bitch she a masterpiece / got a bad bitch she a master-piece”. You’d like to think it’s at least a nod to Jay’s Mona Lisa / Beyonce comparison on ‘Picasso Baby’, but I doubt that much thought went into it. Jay half-laughs, half-squeals in reaction, and even the shittiest Samsung phone speakers couldn’t hide the conceit.
‘Crown’ could even be a Yeezus parody, with distorted 808 kick drums, an autotuned breakdown and ominous, repeated samples, but where tracks like ‘New Slaves’ and ‘On Sight’ used those effects to jar their audience, ‘Crown’ simply melts down into beige slurry. Kanye and Jay-Z were already on different pages on the patchy Watch the Throne, but how the hell are they supposed to make a sequel when “After that government cheese / We eating steak” is about as political as Magna Carta gets?
In terms of positives, it’s hard to look beyond Beyonce’s excellent guest spot on ‘Part II (On the Run)’. It certainly wipes the floor with Frank Ocean’s awkward appearance on ‘Oceans’ (he sounds like he barely wants to be there, and “I hope my black skin don’t dirt this white tuxedo / Before the Basquiat show” sounds suspiciously like it was penned by Jay) and ‘BBC’, which throws Nas on top of a beat that could barely suit him less. ‘Nickels and Dimes’, the album’s closing track, is the only one where Jay’s comparisons to dead heroes stand out (“Johnny Cash, I’m a real G / Cut myself today to see if I still bleed”) rather than blend in.
By then, it’s too late. Magna Carta’s a mess, and not even an entertaining one – it’s simply a dull record by someone who’s in deep danger of going down as a dull human being. But then again, I guess most sports agents are.
http://www.factmag.com/2013/07/09/jay-z-magna-carta-holy-grail/
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Jay-Z's twelfth studio album is his most vacuous yet; "a mess, and not even an entertaining one".
Jay-Z’s released a fair amount of average material in his time. For every Reasonable Doubt in his catalogue there’s a Kingdom Come, and generally speaking this is something that Jay-Z fans are fine with. He releases too regularly to smack it out the park every time, but he’s so easy to listen to and so natural at making hits that even the weaker records are enjoyable, even if it’s just on the basis of a couple of bangers. Roc la Familia? Sure, it’s an average, distracted album, but any world without ‘I Just Wanna Love U’ in it is a far poorer place. Blueprint 3? Not even close to his best LPs, yet it spawned ‘Run this Town’, ‘On to the Next One’ and ‘Empire State of Mind’. Jay’s always been somebody you can rally behind. He gets a free pass where others wouldn’t. But with Magna Carta… Holy Grail, he’s released one of the most vacuous big name records I’ve heard in a long time.
Comparing Magna Carta to Kanye West’s Yeezus, released less than a month before it, is so obvious that it seems crude, but when they use several of the same traits to vastly different effect it’s impossible not to. Both were trailed by notable pre-release campaigns, Yeezus for its live videos, surprise projections and outspoken interviews, Magna Carta for a money-spinning tie-in with Samsung. Both feature some of the year’s most memorable rap lines, but where Kanye’s might be questionable (stand up, “Put my fist in her like the civil rights sign”), they’re at least delivered with impact and divide opinion. Is there anyone who thinks Magna Carta’s “Twerk like Miley Cyrus” or “I don’t pop molly, I rock Tom Ford … Tom Ford / Tom Ford / Tom Ford” lines are anything more than cheap meme bait? Even better, on ‘Oceans’ Jay forces in a cack-handed reference to Billie Holiday’s ‘Strange Fruit’ (already infamously used on Yeezus‘s ‘Blood on the Leaves’) without backing it up or even making it a prominent part of the song. It becomes just another half-thought cultural reference on an album that, with its constant references to Picasso and Basquiat and takes on ‘Losing my Religion’ and ‘Smells like Teen Spirit’, was already drowning in them.
Where Yeezus pulls material from its guest stars that you wouldn’t expect – see Chief Keef’s chorus on ‘Hold my Liquor’ that could prompt an essay on Kanye’s relationship to Keef, Chicago and the public eye, or Assassin’s show-stealing turn on ‘I’m In It’ – Rick Ross’s verse on ‘Fuckwitmeigotit’ is a depressing microcosm of Magna Carta. It’s sluggish and limp over a weedy beat, and whether “Reeboks on, I just do it” is a senseless shot at Ross’s former sponsors (who rightly dropped him over a date rape reference on Rocko’s ‘U.O.E.N.O.’; if it is a shot, then his apology rings even more hollow) or just a bored man confusing his slogans, it’s lame as hell. The song closes on one of the most empty couplets on an album full of them, Ross’s “got a bad bitch she a masterpiece / got a bad bitch she a master-piece”. You’d like to think it’s at least a nod to Jay’s Mona Lisa / Beyonce comparison on ‘Picasso Baby’, but I doubt that much thought went into it. Jay half-laughs, half-squeals in reaction, and even the shittiest Samsung phone speakers couldn’t hide the conceit.
‘Crown’ could even be a Yeezus parody, with distorted 808 kick drums, an autotuned breakdown and ominous, repeated samples, but where tracks like ‘New Slaves’ and ‘On Sight’ used those effects to jar their audience, ‘Crown’ simply melts down into beige slurry. Kanye and Jay-Z were already on different pages on the patchy Watch the Throne, but how the hell are they supposed to make a sequel when “After that government cheese / We eating steak” is about as political as Magna Carta gets?
In terms of positives, it’s hard to look beyond Beyonce’s excellent guest spot on ‘Part II (On the Run)’. It certainly wipes the floor with Frank Ocean’s awkward appearance on ‘Oceans’ (he sounds like he barely wants to be there, and “I hope my black skin don’t dirt this white tuxedo / Before the Basquiat show” sounds suspiciously like it was penned by Jay) and ‘BBC’, which throws Nas on top of a beat that could barely suit him less. ‘Nickels and Dimes’, the album’s closing track, is the only one where Jay’s comparisons to dead heroes stand out (“Johnny Cash, I’m a real G / Cut myself today to see if I still bleed”) rather than blend in.
By then, it’s too late. Magna Carta’s a mess, and not even an entertaining one – it’s simply a dull record by someone who’s in deep danger of going down as a dull human being. But then again, I guess most sports agents are.
http://www.factmag.com/2013/07/09/jay-z-magna-carta-holy-grail/
thats his problem. jay z is more bluster and bragging in every sense of the words than substance in his raps. always has been. hes marketing, commercials, "looking cool", but as far as actually saying something to back up what his song titles and artwork and serious image project, he cant do it.
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http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/jay-zs-magna-carta-mobile-app-is-a-data-mining-operation/
When it was announced that Jay-Z’s new album would be released in partnership with Samsung, some fans grumbled about him “selling out”. Well, things are a lot worse than just him “selling out to the corporate world”. The app that was created to enable Samsung users to listen to Jay-Z’s album a few days in advance is a true data-mining operation that collects an insane amount of data from its users. Here’s a screenshot of the permissions needed taken posted by rapper Killer Mike on Twitter.
The app needs to be able to modify or delete the contents of your USB storage, it can identify all of the running apps on your phone and it needs to know your *precise* GPS location. It also gathers “accounts ” the e-mail addresses and social-media user names connected to the phone. While these permissions are often requested by social media apps and so forth, this is an ALBUM LISTENING APP. Why does it need all of this information.
But things get worse. Here’s a review from the NY Times.
“When installed, it demanded a working log in to Facebook or Twitter and permission to post on the account. “We would like fans to share the content through social networking sites,” a Jay-Z spokeswoman said by e-mail. (E-mail to Samsung Mobile’s customer service address for the app was returned as undeliverable throughout Wednesday.) But the app was more coercive.
In the days before the album’s release through Samsung, the app promised to display lyrics — with a catch. “Unlocking” the lyrics required a post on Facebook or Twitter. I used Twitter, where hitting the “Tweet” button brought up a canned message: “I just unlocked a new lyric ‘Crown’ in the JAY Z Magna Carta app. See them first. http://smsng.us/MCHG2 #MagnaCarta.” The message could be altered, but something had to be sent. No post, no lyrics — for every song. Users were forced to post again and again. And frankly, a lyric that is going to show up almost immediately on the Internet isn’t much of a bribe for spamming your friends.”
- Jon Pareles, Jay-Z Is Watching, and He Knows Your Friends
While some see Jay-Z as a savvy and powerful business man, he is once again being used by the elite to push its agenda further. Whether it be pushing their occult symbolism or their Big-Brother Agenda, Jay-Z is apparently down with it.
Rap used to be about exposing oppression and staying true to yourself and your community. However, like many other “movements”, rap is being co-opted by the elite to further the very things the movement used to denounce. Fortunately, there are still rappers who have a powerful message to communicate. For example here’s Killer Mike’s (mentioned above) video “Reagan”.
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Go to the article for the pics/song mentioned, couldn't post from my phone.
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In other news, representatives from the RIAA, who are technically Jay-Z employees, stopped by to polish his nuts and drop off the platinum plaque for MCHG:
(http://cdn.nahright.com/news/m.php/2013/07/jay-plat-450x408.jpg)
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Looks like a little Kanye artwork in the background.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/VlPi4qKdUlc
http://www.youtube.com/v/uy6otbB9N2w
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Looks like a little Kanye artwork in the background.
I think it's Basquiat. Cause Jay owns Basquiats in his home, as he's mentioned in song like 1366875357575 times.
I hate to say it, but he can't carry an album any more. Nothing to say
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he definitely carried this new album for sure
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
It's definitely a decent effort. Not great for someone with Jay's status I'm the game tho, just pretty average by today's standards (no hate)
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
You don't have to like the content, but it's delivered in a dope manner.
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Dope album. Production is sick.
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
You don't have to like the content, but it's delivered in a dope manner.
eh.
contents pretty important.
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Looks like a little Kanye artwork in the background.
looks like a basquiat painting to me
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A lot of people are bent out of shape because of him using that Nirvana melody in the JT song. I'm bent out of shape because the song just sucks.
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
You don't have to like the content, but it's delivered in a dope manner.
eh.
contents pretty important.
He's been in Hip Hop for over twenty years and has earned hundreds of millions of dollars. What do you want him to rap about? Lmao.
I remember when 50 Cent tried to keep it street, he got criticized for rapping about it because he was "so far removed from that lifestyle".
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lyrically Jays worst album...everything else about it is dope though
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
You don't have to like the content, but it's delivered in a dope manner.
Lyricism isn't just about content. He's just a boring lyricist IMO.
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lyrically Jays worst album...everything else about it is dope though
the production coulda been better too.
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sounds like he put little effort into this release
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sounds like he put little effort into this release
that shit light !!!!!
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Jay put in as much effort on this as Busta did on Year of the Dragon. No artist is gonna put their best work into a corporate thing
Having said that I'm amazed it's coming out on hardcopy. Samsung's $$$ are well spent.
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You have to be pretty fucking lame to not think this is a solid/dope album, even if you don't think it's great.
i havent given it a full listen, ill admit.
but i never equated a state of lamness with not enjoying jay z ramble on and repeat the same cliches about wealth, wealth, and more wealth.
You don't have to like the content, but it's delivered in a dope manner.
Lyricism isn't just about content. He's just a boring lyricist IMO.
Agreed, I like plenty of Jay-Z songs and I think he's a good rapper overall, but never really understood why he's compared to all the greats.
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lyrically Jays worst album...everything else about it is dope though
this album is definitely well above Kingdom Come, Blueprint 3, both R. Kelly collab albums, and 75% of Blueprint 2 lyrically lol
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Jay said himself it's his 4th best album behind Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and The Black Album. All of which are pretty widely considered to be classics.
That's why he's compared to greats because he has three classics. Only other people with more than one are Tupac, Big, Em, Nas and a few select other greats lol.
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Jay said himself it's his 4th best album behind Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and The Black Album. All of which are pretty widely considered to be classics.
That's why he's compared to greats because he has three classics. Only other people with more than one are Tupac, Big, Em, Nas and a few select other greats lol.
always thought black album was highly overrated
99 problems is dope to this day, though
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Nooooooo waaaaaaaaaay lol.
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outside of "Change Clothes" which sounds dope compared to radio singles today, no way that album was overrated lol
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Jay said himself it's his 4th best album behind Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and The Black Album. All of which are pretty widely considered to be classics.
LOL so u bought the hype.
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Question:
I've never been a big Jay-Z fan, but I do like some of his catchy songs a lot. Should I download this album or would that be a waste of time for me?
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Question:
I've never been a big Jay-Z fan, but I do like some of his catchy songs a lot. Should I download this album or would that be a waste of time for me?
Maybe not a waste of time, but its only the quality of stuff you'd hear on the radio.
Absolutely nothing on there worth going back to IMO
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earl sweatshirt saying what im thinking here -
"i hope that opinions on my material throughout my career are based on the quality of it and not how big my name is"
truth
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Question:
I've never been a big Jay-Z fan, but I do like some of his catchy songs a lot. Should I download this album or would that be a waste of time for me?
seeing that you're always bitching and moaning about DJs and people "talking" on records, there are a few songs where people talk and one of them has Biggie talking over Jay-Z so you might wanna pass on this then
only song you'd probably like is the first one with Justin Timberlake anyway :P
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earl sweatshirt saying what im thinking here -
"i hope that opinions on my material throughout my career are based on the quality of it and not how big my name is"
truth
nobody is judging the album based on how big Jay-Z's name is, people are saying the album is good because it in fact is
Kanye's name is just as big as Jay's at this point if not maybe bigger and Yeezus is getting mixed reviews from critics and fans, so there goes that logic
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Jay said himself it's his 4th best album behind Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and The Black Album. All of which are pretty widely considered to be classics.
That's why he's compared to greats because he has three classics. Only other people with more than one are Tupac, Big, Em, Nas and a few select other greats lol.
I'll give you Reasonable Doubt, it's just hard for me to really view much else from him as classic. I've just never really been able to vibe to his stuff the way I have with other artists I consider "great". Again, I like the guy, just don't view him the same way as most other people I guess.
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a bunch of jay-z dickriders up in here nothing special imo
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I was called a Jay-Z "hater" at one point on here so definitely ain't no dickriding in this thread at least on my part 8)
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For me, there are so many better things to listen to from the last 6-12 months (Rocky, Kendrick, Kayne, to name three). Add in the fact that this is at best Jay Z's 4th best album and it all equates to basically zero replay value for me. I'd honestly rather listen to Best of Both Worlds, not to mention RD, In My Lifetime 1,2, Vol 3, Dynasty, BP1, BP2, S.Carter mixtape. It's got a bunch of Timbo beats, and excellent production throughout, but this album is boring as all hell. Compare how this dude's flows and subject matter are aging relative to his one-time nemesis NaS. Compare Life is Good to this joint. Apples and Oranges. I don't pop molly, I rock Tom Ford? (Why are those two things mutually exclusive? Do both Jay!)
Since this is Dubcc, I'd also add that there's a reason Dr. Dre prioritizes quality control. Unlike Jay, he's not interested in putting out his 4th best project in his 17th year in the game. Jay puts out decent product, while Dre helps bring us a Kendrick Lamar debut that is better than all but maybe one or two of the 12 albums that Jay has put out in 17 years. Dre could flood the airwaves with beats as well produced as what you hear on this album, but he won't in the interest of not diluting his legacy.
Nothing special about this album at all aside from the fact that an average Timbo beat is still very nice, and that it's cool that Timbo is willing to produce nearly all of a project not once but twice in a year (JT and Jay-Z). Unlike Dre who last did that with Relapse and before that did it god knows when.
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After listening to this for a little while now, and being a Jay fan, i'd say this was a pretty solid effort overall. For someone thats been in the game for so long, his longevity is unmatched, and sure his subject matter maybe a tad bragadocious, but he can still compose quality music, even if not as good as once was. I'd compare Jordan's Wizards days, he was old and slower, but could still play. Jay can still play, just as good as 70-80% of the artists these days anyways.. Thats not sayin much though
Still a solid album nonetheless
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only albums to get my $$$$$ in 2013 were A$AP Rocky, Kid Cudi, Kanye West, and Jay-Z
there were a few others I would have paid for that were released for free that are obviously better as well but I'm not gonna sit here and compare them
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After listening to this for a little while now, and being a Jay fan, i'd say this was a pretty solid effort overall. For someone thats been in the game for so long, his longevity is unmatched, and sure his subject matter maybe a tad bragadocious, but he can still compose quality music, even if not as good as once was. I'd compare Jordan's Wizards days, he was old and slower, but could still play. Jay can still play, just as good as 70-80% of the artists these days anyways.. Thats not sayin much though
Still a solid album nonetheless
I disagree with saying his longevity is unmatched...Nas has been around longer and Life Is Good absolutely destroys this album.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/_uV-ebDhur0
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After listening to this for a little while now, and being a Jay fan, i'd say this was a pretty solid effort overall. For someone thats been in the game for so long, his longevity is unmatched, and sure his subject matter maybe a tad bragadocious, but he can still compose quality music, even if not as good as once was. I'd compare Jordan's Wizards days, he was old and slower, but could still play. Jay can still play, just as good as 70-80% of the artists these days anyways.. Thats not sayin much though
Still a solid album nonetheless
I disagree with saying his longevity is unmatched...Nas has been around longer and Life Is Good absolutely destroys this album.
No doubt.
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earl sweatshirt saying what im thinking here -
"i hope that opinions on my material throughout my career are based on the quality of it and not how big my name is"
truth
nobody is judging the album based on how big Jay-Z's name is, people are saying the album is good because it in fact is
Kanye's name is just as big as Jay's at this point if not maybe bigger and Yeezus is getting mixed reviews from critics and fans, so there goes that logic
im by no means bashing you here, but hold up - 1. magna carta HAS gotten mixed reviews 2. you really think jay z doesnt skate on his rep at this point? you liking magna carta aside..
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earl sweatshirt saying what im thinking here -
"i hope that opinions on my material throughout my career are based on the quality of it and not how big my name is"
truth
nobody is judging the album based on how big Jay-Z's name is, people are saying the album is good because it in fact is
Kanye's name is just as big as Jay's at this point if not maybe bigger and Yeezus is getting mixed reviews from critics and fans, so there goes that logic
im by no means bashing you here, but hold up - 1. magna carta HAS gotten mixed reviews 2. you really think jay z doesnt skate on his rep at this point? you liking magna carta aside..
from all the reviews I've seen so far I haven't seen any blatantly bashing Jay's yet, most are saying either decent or dope release, where as Kanye has gotten straight hate from credible reviewers/radio personalities or just straight praise
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Heard this shit....waste of beats. Jay is so overrated. Lyrically, it was a bore. I guess the kids will like it.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/Fzr6MY664l4
http://www.youtube.com/v/2XKRykuZH-I
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I didn't take any reviews into mind when listening for the first time. The production is solid at times, but the music just comes off as heartless, uninspiring, and forgetful. Mind you, there are a few bangers. It took me 3 sit downs to finish the album. It's alot of meh to digest in one sitting. I'm not really a fan of it. Ill probably listen to it again in a month after all the nonsense hype has passed. But i really wasn't feeling it all that much.
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Symbolism is all over this album. Not that great to be honest, but then I'm from the 90's era
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http://www.youtube.com/v/D6F74Me5ZrM
http://www.youtube.com/v/8dUNTdIyG0A
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Symbolism is all over this album. Not that great to be honest, but then I'm from the 90's era
honestly im with you, and i think that if you aint from the newer school of hip hop where jay z is a god then you aint gonna feel this album and thats cause its not good enough to stand on its own merits imo
a few good songs but thats it
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Jay Z never had the makings of a varsity athlete
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Symbolism is all over this album. Not that great to be honest, but then I'm from the 90's era
honestly im with you, and i think that if you aint from the newer school of hip hop where jay z is a god then you aint gonna feel this album and thats cause its not good enough to stand on its own merits imo
a few good songs but thats it
That's the problem. People think that it's because we are getting older, that we won't like what the kids like today, but I can debunk that by saying I like what my parents liked ;D I can listen to music from all genre's from all decades, but the music today is just too weak, too watered down. Buying an album today in the hopes to have 2-3 good songs with replay value on it is a disgrace but that is the regularity of where we're at today with the industry.
Snoop has a new album out....... (no one is really hyped or interested) I think Quik is probably the only one because he still provides quality material but all these others are done. The kids will buy it because it's fashionable to do so, whilst listening to it with their beats headphones on
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lyrically Jays worst album...everything else about it is dope though
pretty much sums it up
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if you guys really think this is his worst album lyrically you never heard Blueprint 3
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Lmao. In the last two Jay interviews Elano posted in the first of the two, about 3/4 of the way through they talk political and Jay says "the government is too big. We need to shrink it down to the people who matter". Lmfaooooo. Son is so blunt about his affiliations.
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"The Truth" heads to the Bronx for an interview with JAY Z. Sitting in the New York Yankees baseball museum at Yankee Stadium, JAY Z speaks on "Magna Carta... Holy Grail"; new rules in the music business; his philosophy on collaborations; the connection he has to New York; and the future of rap.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Wc900jur8ZI
In Part 2 of the #FactsOnly interview, JAY Z gives Elliott Wilson a glimpse into his views on respect and competition within the music world; the shared stories between sports and hip hop; his thoughts on the Trayvon Martin ruling, and his perspective on parenting.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Re8S3xZbRNI
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Lmao. In the last two Jay interviews Elano posted in the first of the two, about 3/4 of the way through they talk political and Jay says "the government is too big. We need to shrink it down to the people who matter". Lmfaooooo. Son is so blunt about his affiliations.
Let's lower the 1% ;D
Thing is the 1% is more like 0.0001 when you look at the super rich IE; 1000+ in the world. I wouldn't even class Obama and all these puppets in that category. They are simply here to manipulate and keep the agenda moving
Trying to confuse the masses by naming movies and albums after legitimate and currently relevant constitutions. The Magna Carta of 1215 is a declaration of sovereign governance and is the closest thing the UK has to a constitution. It precedes all current legislation and "made up" laws in parliament today. You know the ones? The ones that have us emptying our pockets more and more every year. Taxes for air, taxes for water, fines and penalties for walking the wrong way or putting the wrong rubbish into the wrong bucket etc etc. It's getting ridiculous!!!
They don't want people to to reassert THEIR Constitution and god given rights because it eliminates all these fake manipulative rules of society put in by these snakes and traitors that are passed off and accepted as laws but really aren't, so they create these mainstream BS products under the REAL laws and documentations to confuse the masses and mask them from the truth...... Ask a kid about the rule of law, their genuine 'human' rights, and the terms and conditions under which those elected must govern, be they a monarch, president or parliament, but more specifically ask them about the Magna Carta and they'll be like ??? :o :o "Isn't that a Jay Z album"??!! ;D
LOL. They're being clever. it's an age old tactic. How can you make something disappear that cannot be destroyed? Easy!!! It's done by replicating it under something different and re-marketing the new product so that it then becomes synonymous with that meaning or title to the point where it's true meaning is simply grayed out and forgotten.
Sorry for the long drivel but it's something that is serious. Jay Z is one of the biggest puppets out there. The less switched on won't understand, but some on here will
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Lmao. In the last two Jay interviews Elano posted in the first of the two, about 3/4 of the way through they talk political and Jay says "the government is too big. We need to shrink it down to the people who matter". Lmfaooooo. Son is so blunt about his affiliations.
Let's lower the 1% ;D
Thing is the 1% is more like 0.0001 when you look at the super rich IE; 1000+ in the world. I wouldn't even class Obama and all these puppets in that category. They are simply here to manipulate and keep the agenda moving
Trying to confuse the masses by naming movies and albums after legitimate and currently relevant constitutions. The Magna Carta of 1215 is a declaration of sovereign governance and is the closest thing the UK has to a constitution. It precedes all current legislation and "made up" laws in parliament today. You know the ones? The ones that have us emptying our pockets more and more every year. Taxes for air, taxes for water, fines and penalties for walking the wrong way or putting the wrong rubbish into the wrong bucket etc etc. It's getting ridiculous!!!
They don't want people to to reassert THEIR Constitution and god given rights because it eliminates all these fake manipulative rules of society put in by these snakes and traitors that are passed off and accepted as laws but really aren't, so they create these mainstream BS products under the REAL laws and documentations to confuse the masses and mask them from the truth...... Ask a kid about the rule of law, their genuine 'human' rights, and the terms and conditions under which those elected must govern, be they a monarch, president or parliament, but more specifically ask them about the Magna Carta and they'll be like ??? :o :o "Isn't that a Jay Z album"??!! ;D
LOL. They're being clever. it's an age old tactic. How can you make something disappear that cannot be destroyed? Easy!!! It's done by replicating it under something different and re-marketing the new product so that it then becomes synonymous with that meaning or title to the point where it's true meaning is simply grayed out and forgotten.
Sorry for the long drivel but it's something that is serious. Jay Z is one of the biggest puppets out there. The less switched on won't understand, but some on here will
Totally on point with everything you said.
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Jay said himself it's his 4th best album behind Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and The Black Album. All of which are pretty widely considered to be classics.
LOL so u bought the hype.
LOL does he not sound like a pre-teen girl who just bought the new spice girls record?
just fuckin wit ya, beibs....i thought this album was solid. nothin great, but not whack either. the beats are the highlight. his flow tends to be very choppy and somewhat lazy on this 1, but he gets the job done.
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My initial view of the album was a 6 - 6.5/10 (which is about average for Jay)
7
Reasonable Doubt
The Blueprint
6.5
Vol 2 Hard Knock
Vol 3 Life & Times
The Black Album
6
In My Lifetime
The Dynasty
The Blueprint 2
Kingdom Come
The Blueprint 3
5.5
American Gangster
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REASONABLE DOUBT IS MORE THAN A 7...DIDNT U GIVE KENDRICK'S ALBUM A 7.5? LOLLL
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REASONABLE DOUBT IS MORE THAN A 7...DIDNT U GIVE KENDRICK'S ALBUM A 7.5? LOLLL
and Blueprint 2 and 3 are supposed to be at the dead bottom of the list
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REASONABLE DOUBT IS MORE THAN A 7...DIDNT U GIVE KENDRICK'S ALBUM A 7.5? LOLLL
Reasonable Doubt got a few better tracks on it (some of Jays best material) but not enough to carry it up to the next level overall.
Still dope tho no doubt, but pretty average for the time
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REASONABLE DOUBT IS MORE THAN A 7...DIDNT U GIVE KENDRICK'S ALBUM A 7.5? LOLLL
Reasonable Doubt got a few better tracks on it (some of Jays best material) but not enough to carry it up to the next level overall.
Still dope tho no doubt, but pretty average for the time
u act all serious wit ur ratings, how can u be so far off?
u realize that putting gkmc above reasonable doubt is not a respectable opinion, correct?
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REASONABLE DOUBT IS MORE THAN A 7...DIDNT U GIVE KENDRICK'S ALBUM A 7.5? LOLLL
Reasonable Doubt got a few better tracks on it (some of Jays best material) but not enough to carry it up to the next level overall.
Still dope tho no doubt, but pretty average for the time
u act all serious wit ur ratings, how can u be so far off?
u realize that putting gkmc above reasonable doubt is not a respectable opinion, correct?
LOL to some.
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NO...2 ANY HIP-HOP HEAD. I RESPECT U AS FAR AS UR KNOWLEDGE IN HIP-HOP GOES.. UR OPINIONS ARE JUST DOWNRIGHT OFF, THO. BUT I GUESS THATS WHY THEY SAY OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES...MOST OF EM STINK, BUT THESE NIGGAZ ROTTEN.
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NO...2 ANY HIP-HOP HEAD. I RESPECT U AS FAR AS UR KNOWLEDGE IN HIP-HOP GOES.. UR OPINIONS ARE JUST DOWNRIGHT OFF, THO. BUT I GUESS THATS WHY THEY SAY OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES...MOST OF EM STINK, BUT THESE NIGGAZ ROTTEN.
Nahh cmon u know a lotta people don't fux wit Jay at all
Plus the idea 100% of headz share any one opinion is also mad
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EVEN CATS WHO DONT FUX WIT JAY-Z REALIZE THAT REASONABLE DOUBT IS AT LEAST A NEAR-CLASSIC, IF NOT CLASSIC...AND I DONT THINK ANY1 CAN SAY WIT A STRAIGHT FACE THAT KENDRICK LAMAR'S GOOD KID MAAD CITY IS THE BETTER ALBUM.
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EVEN CATS WHO DONT FUX WIT JAY-Z REALIZE THAT REASONABLE DOUBT IS AT LEAST A NEAR-CLASSIC, IF NOT CLASSIC...AND I DONT THINK ANY1 CAN SAY WIT A STRAIGHT FACE THAT KENDRICK LAMAR'S GOOD KID MAAD CITY IS THE BETTER ALBUM.
To me Kendrick laid waste to virtually every West Coast album since Chronic 2001
Jay was dope when Resonable Doubt dropped but immediately fell off with In My Lifetime. Dude was never even consistent album wise.
Totally overrated a rapper and career. And like I said, RD was average by 1996 standards at best.
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EVEN CATS WHO DONT FUX WIT JAY-Z REALIZE THAT REASONABLE DOUBT IS AT LEAST A NEAR-CLASSIC, IF NOT CLASSIC...AND I DONT THINK ANY1 CAN SAY WIT A STRAIGHT FACE THAT KENDRICK LAMAR'S GOOD KID MAAD CITY IS THE BETTER ALBUM.
To me Kendrick laid waste to virtually every West Coast album since Chronic 2001
Jay was dope when Resonable Doubt dropped but immediately fell off with In My Lifetime. Dude was never even consistent album wise.
Totally overrated a rapper and career. And like I said, RD was average by 1996 standards at best.
VOLUME 1 IS A GREAT ALBUM, U TRIPPIN AGAIN
AND I DONT EVEN LIKE JAY-Z
LOL@REASONABLE DOUBT BEIN AVERAGE
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EVEN CATS WHO DONT FUX WIT JAY-Z REALIZE THAT REASONABLE DOUBT IS AT LEAST A NEAR-CLASSIC, IF NOT CLASSIC...AND I DONT THINK ANY1 CAN SAY WIT A STRAIGHT FACE THAT KENDRICK LAMAR'S GOOD KID MAAD CITY IS THE BETTER ALBUM.
To me Kendrick laid waste to virtually every West Coast album since Chronic 2001
Jay was dope when Resonable Doubt dropped but immediately fell off with In My Lifetime. Dude was never even consistent album wise.
Totally overrated a rapper and career. And like I said, RD was average by 1996 standards at best.
VOLUME 1 IS A GREAT ALBUM, U TRIPPIN AGAIN
AND I DONT EVEN LIKE JAY-Z
LOL@REASONABLE DOUBT BEIN AVERAGE
Clearly we're not going to agree :D
Peace brobro
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My initial view of the album was a 6 - 6.5/10 (which is about average for Jay)
7
Reasonable Doubt
The Blueprint
6.5
Vol 2 Hard Knock
Vol 3 Life & Times
The Black Album
6
In My Lifetime
The Dynasty
The Blueprint 2
Kingdom Come
The Blueprint 3
5.5
American Gangster
Almost the same rating, although I class Reasonable doubt at around 8.5. The only classic from Jay IMO