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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 16, 2013, 08:15:47 PM
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We are about a week into the lunar month but I still need to make my annual post. Ramadaan Mubarak to all the Muslims at the forum like Sami, Aladin, and there's several others active... more Ramadaan stuff coming as the month continues
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Although I am no muslim myself I wish all muslims here:
Ramadaan Mubarak!
May this month be kind to you and strengthen your faith.
Heinz.
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Thanks for the thought, but I'm at peace with burning in hell. being an Atheist.
*still eating* ;D
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Thanks for the thought, but I'm at peace with burning in hell. being an Atheist.
*still eating* ;D
8)
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Ramadaan Mubarak for all muslims and non-muslims. Although you may not believe in it or fast. I wish you all the best and blessings in this holy month.
Aladin
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Salaam akhi's, how are you finding it?
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Headed to Chicago to spend the last 10 days of Ramadaan there in tabligh. Some of the Muslims here my be familiar with Jammat Tabligh dawah effort, I've mentioned it on here several times.
Its pretty cool, because you just pay like 28 dollars for a greyhound ticket to chicago, and then I'll be asigned a group, and travel around chicago with that group for 10 days staying in one mosque for 3 days, then another for 3 days, till the 10 days is up. We all split food and gas and I may spend less then 100 dollars for the whole trip. Our effort is to establish certain ettiquettes of the mosque that are often overlooked, and go out in the community and invite (dawah) other Muslims to join in those acts of worship, learning and teaching, lectures, talks, etc. In the mosque. Its sort of like missionary work only we don't try to convert anyone to Islam just work on ourselves and other Muslims so that we can be better Muslims.
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It was Christmas in July a couple days ago, I threw on my favorite Christmas album. It was Bing Crosby - White Christmas.
http://www.youtube.com/v/w9QLn7gM-hY
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Headed to Chicago to spend the last 10 days of Ramadaan there in tabligh. Some of the Muslims here my be familiar with Jammat Tabligh dawah effort, I've mentioned it on here several times.
Its pretty cool, because you just pay like 28 dollars for a greyhound ticket to chicago, and then I'll be asigned a group, and travel around chicago with that group for 10 days staying in one mosque for 3 days, then another for 3 days, till the 10 days is up. We all split food and gas and I may spend less then 100 dollars for the whole trip. Our effort is to establish certain ettiquettes of the mosque that are often overlooked, and go out in the community and invite (dawah) other Muslims to join in those acts of worship, learning and teaching, lectures, talks, etc. In the mosque. Its sort of like missionary work only we don't try to convert anyone to Islam just work on ourselves and other Muslims so that we can be better Muslims.
You should meet up with Lonnie (Common) while you are out there.
Send me an email and I will give you his contact info.
heinzkesser@gmail.com
I also got some other people in Chicago that could show you around.
Hope you will have a good time!
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Headed to Chicago to spend the last 10 days of Ramadaan there in tabligh. Some of the Muslims here my be familiar with Jammat Tabligh dawah effort, I've mentioned it on here several times.
Its pretty cool, because you just pay like 28 dollars for a greyhound ticket to chicago, and then I'll be asigned a group, and travel around chicago with that group for 10 days staying in one mosque for 3 days, then another for 3 days, till the 10 days is up. We all split food and gas and I may spend less then 100 dollars for the whole trip. Our effort is to establish certain ettiquettes of the mosque that are often overlooked, and go out in the community and invite (dawah) other Muslims to join in those acts of worship, learning and teaching, lectures, talks, etc. In the mosque. Its sort of like missionary work only we don't try to convert anyone to Islam just work on ourselves and other Muslims so that we can be better Muslims.
You should meet up with Lonnie (Common) while you are out there.
Send me an email and I will give you his contact info.
heinzkesser@gmail.com
I also got some other people in Chicago that could show you around.
Hope you will have a good time!
That might be a monumental embarrassment on your part. Homeboy is prob the most narrowminded/ignorantly smug people on here.
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Headed to Chicago to spend the last 10 days of Ramadaan there in tabligh. Some of the Muslims here my be familiar with Jammat Tabligh dawah effort, I've mentioned it on here several times.
Its pretty cool, because you just pay like 28 dollars for a greyhound ticket to chicago, and then I'll be asigned a group, and travel around chicago with that group for 10 days staying in one mosque for 3 days, then another for 3 days, till the 10 days is up. We all split food and gas and I may spend less then 100 dollars for the whole trip. Our effort is to establish certain ettiquettes of the mosque that are often overlooked, and go out in the community and invite (dawah) other Muslims to join in those acts of worship, learning and teaching, lectures, talks, etc. In the mosque. Its sort of like missionary work only we don't try to convert anyone to Islam just work on ourselves and other Muslims so that we can be better Muslims.
You should meet up with Lonnie (Common) while you are out there.
Send me an email and I will give you his contact info.
heinzkesser@gmail.com
I also got some other people in Chicago that could show you around.
Hope you will have a good time!
That might be a monumental embarrassment on your part. Homeboy is prob the most narrowminded/ignorantly smug people on here.
Thank you for your concern mister.
I don't share your opinions though.
Keep it positive!
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Headed to Chicago to spend the last 10 days of Ramadaan there in tabligh. Some of the Muslims here my be familiar with Jammat Tabligh dawah effort, I've mentioned it on here several times.
Its pretty cool, because you just pay like 28 dollars for a greyhound ticket to chicago, and then I'll be asigned a group, and travel around chicago with that group for 10 days staying in one mosque for 3 days, then another for 3 days, till the 10 days is up. We all split food and gas and I may spend less then 100 dollars for the whole trip. Our effort is to establish certain ettiquettes of the mosque that are often overlooked, and go out in the community and invite (dawah) other Muslims to join in those acts of worship, learning and teaching, lectures, talks, etc. In the mosque. Its sort of like missionary work only we don't try to convert anyone to Islam just work on ourselves and other Muslims so that we can be better Muslims.
You should meet up with Lonnie (Common) while you are out there.
Send me an email and I will give you his contact info.
heinzkesser@gmail.com
I also got some other people in Chicago that could show you around.
Hope you will have a good time!
That might be a monumental embarrassment on your part. Homeboy is prob the most narrowminded/ignorantly smug people on here.
Thank you for your concern mister.
I don't share your opinions though.
Keep it positive!
Fair enough. Peace my friend.
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You should meet up with Lonnie (Common) while you are out there.
Send me an email and I will give you his contact info.
heinzkesser@gmail.com
I also got some other people in Chicago that could show you around.
Hope you will have a good time!
dope.. I'd take you up on that if I was out there under different circumstances. But it's like you are assigned a group and an Amir (leader) and everything is done as a group through (mushura) and then the Amirs decision. And there are certain worship and activities we perform and you can't really go outside of that and just say, "yo, I'm out, I'm gonna go chill with Common and check out the city"
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KICKED OUT OF THE TABLIGH!!
...okay, so I wasn't kicked out, that was a little dramatic. But I think I may be blacklisted (if they had such a list) or otherwise ostracized. Because I defected from the Jammat, without telling anybody I just disappeared.
What happened was that I had to take a 15 hour greyhound ride to Chicago. Anybody ever road Greyhound? It's basically what hell is like. No customer service, uncomfortable seating, a lot of trailer park, x-cons, and the like riding on the bus in close quarters with no leg room. Starts and stops, takes like double the time to get anywhere because of all the stops.
So after 15 hours of riding the greyhound I finally arrived in Chicago hoping to catch some sleep. But right away we were moving from masjid (mosque) to masjid in Chicago so I didn't get to sleep. There was praying throughout the night because of Ramadaan so I didn't get to sleep. Then, after being assigned my group in the morning we got sent to Minnesota where I was on yet another 10 hour or so ride. This time in a car, but still very crowded vehicle. We finally got to our location, and unfortunately we had a few young kids in our group who behaved like they'd never been out of the house before. Sometimes parents ask the Amir to take their troubled 17, 18 year old out in Jammat so that they can do something productive for once... but these kids were really childish and immature and I felt like punching them several times, but of course I kept those thoughts all to myself. They were making noise and it was hard to sleep.
I have insomnia anyway, so if things aren't right it can really take over and be a problem. So on the last day I gave a big lecture in front of the mosque, inviting people to join us and to go out and spend time. It was a big, impassioned speach, calling people to the effort. Then suddenly, a few hours later, after still laying down with no sleep, I became so angry and frustrated with my lack of sleep. I had only had 1 good nights sleep for a whole week.... So finally I just flipped out, and bailed while everyone was sleeping I packed my stuff and walked to the greyhound.
I think they are truly pissed because if they weren't someone would of contacted me to inquire about what went wrong.. but I think I may have effectively burnt my bridge with the Jammat Tabligh. Which is kind of sad, but sometimes you reach your limit and have to take drastic measures.
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are they dumb now tho because they didnt understand you?
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are they dumb now tho because they didnt understand you?
no, I take responsibility for this. I mean there were some issue with some immature teenagers that were in the group (but ultimately we are supposed to help them and be patient with them), and I don't think the Amir made enough consideration for me after coming off a 15-hour greyhound ride, that made things difficult. I've had problems with insomnia my whole life so I blame myself and my insomnia more than anything else.
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It doesn't sound like u were kicked out, you said you bounced and went back to the greyhound. So did u have a blowup on the dude and in your rage storm off or what?
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It doesn't sound like u were kicked out, you said you bounced and went back to the greyhound. So did u have a blowup on the dude and in your rage storm off or what?
No.. I'm saying that now I am likely to be kicked out. "Kicked out" was actually exaggerating. Because like you said, I just bounced and went back on a greyhound. But I didn't talk to anyone before I left, I just bounced while everyone was sleeping.
And no, there were no blowups. Partly why I just bounced like that was to avoid a blowup. Cause I was so pissed at the time I was about to go in on one of those kids or something. What had to be shocking for them is that everyone thought everything was okay with me, and I'd just given a big lecture that morning encouraging more people at that location to join, etc. It may have been the best lecture I've ever given. Next thing they know, I'm long gone...
This likely means I will be ostracized from the Jammat Tabligh movement.
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start ya own tabouleh jam and tell them niggas to suck ya dick.
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The Amir should have taken into account your situation.
And if he didn't, you could have reminded him.
That you had a long journey and have insomnia.
It would be decent 2 give them a call and explain your frustation.
but then again it is your own decision.
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start ya own tabouleh jam and tell them niggas to suck ya dick.
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It doesn't sound like u were kicked out, you said you bounced and went back to the greyhound. So did u have a blowup on the dude and in your rage storm off or what?
No.. I'm saying that now I am likely to be kicked out. "Kicked out" was actually exaggerating. Because like you said, I just bounced and went back on a greyhound. But I didn't talk to anyone before I left, I just bounced while everyone was sleeping.
And no, there were no blowups. Partly why I just bounced like that was to avoid a blowup. Cause I was so pissed at the time I was about to go in on one of those kids or something. What had to be shocking for them is that everyone thought everything was okay with me, and I'd just given a big lecture that morning encouraging more people at that location to join, etc. It may have been the best lecture I've ever given. Next thing they know, I'm long gone...
This likely means I will be ostracized from the Jammat Tabligh movement.
Lol you're not ostracized or kicked out, you quit doggy. And without letting them know. It's on you not them.
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you got kicked outta the taliban?
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The Amir should have taken into account your situation.
And if he didn't, you could have reminded him.
That you had a long journey and have insomnia.
It would be decent 2 give them a call and explain your frustation.
but then again it is your own decision.
Your right. I've tried to call and explain since, but the local Amir and the Amir from my jammat aren't returning my calls. What makes it worse is the local Amir had to vouch for me, for the Amir in Chicago to allow me to join the jammat. So it now reflects badly upon the Amir for taking me, and the local Amir because they even had to advocate for me and vouch for me that I was good before I went out.
It's sort of like if you are a reference for somebody when they apply for the job, and that person leaves and quits the job without telling anybody, then it might reflect badly upon you for being a reference.
So you can see why they may not let me go back in in Jammat again...
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Lol you're not ostracized or kicked out, you quit doggy. And without letting them know. It's on you not them.
Yeah, I quit that jammat and left it. I'm talking about going out with future jammats on future trips. It's like if you were to walk out of a job one day without telling anyone and then tried to come back to that job later. It's likely they may have ostracized you by then.
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Lol you're not ostracized or kicked out, you quit doggy. And without letting them know. It's on you not them.
Yeah, I quit that jammat and left it. I'm talking about going out with future jammats on future trips. It's like if you were to walk out of a job one day without telling anyone and then tried to come back to that job later. It's likely they may have ostracized you by then.
But saying you've been kicked out/ostracized is playing the victim like a mofo. YOU quit and walked away, got mad emo an ditched without telling anyone. You ostracized yourself 100%. Quit playing victim.
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But saying you've been kicked out/ostracized is playing the victim like a mofo. YOU quit and walked away, got mad emo an ditched without telling anyone. You ostracized yourself 100%. Quit playing victim.
Sorry to disappoint you, I know it means a lot to you to try to put me down, but I've already accepted responsibility for all this. I never claimed to be the victim and even said I was exaggerating from the jump, you can read it in my opening post.
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But saying you've been kicked out/ostracized is playing the victim like a mofo. YOU quit and walked away, got mad emo an ditched without telling anyone. You ostracized yourself 100%. Quit playing victim.
We all make mistakes, especially when we are mad or emotional.
Do you never say something because your mad and regret later on that you said it?
Well he did admit that he could have done it different. It takes a man 2 realise that. A lot of people stay stubborn even though they were wrong.
peace,
Aladin
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But saying you've been kicked out/ostracized is playing the victim like a mofo. YOU quit and walked away, got mad emo an ditched without telling anyone. You ostracized yourself 100%. Quit playing victim.
Sorry to disappoint you, I know it means a lot to you to try to put me down, but I've already accepted responsibility for all this. I never claimed to be the victim and even said I was exaggerating from the jump, you can read it in my opening post.
I'm not putting you down, I'm telling you that it wasn't them who ostracized you, it was you doing it to yourself.
Ive done things like that, everyone has moments we wish we could take back. Not dissing u for that, just saying u claiming to be ostrasized makes it sound like u were unjustly excluded when by the sounds of it you're the one who made that happen.