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Title: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: tonyscarbones on December 07, 2013, 07:12:58 AM
wideawake sold it and last i heard afeni was sueing the company that bought them out or whatever

so whats the latest

are we gonna get unreleased tracks or what
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Okka on December 07, 2013, 08:51:19 AM
There was a topic about this like few days ago. I don't think anybody knows what's goin' on right now.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 07, 2013, 10:46:34 AM
E one have acquired the deathrow catalogue of wideasleep rumour is that they havent bought the unreleased catalogue which doesnt make sense. E one only spent 6 million but still no news .
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 07, 2013, 02:52:05 PM
Well, truthfully, the unreleased catalog probably isn't worth the troubles.  It sounds like it was poorly cataloged and three of the most popular artists (Dre, 2Pac, Nate Dogg) apparently own the publishing rights to their work over there. As much as fans want to hear all this vault material, the actual money is in the established catalog.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Okka on December 07, 2013, 03:05:33 PM
Didn't Nate leave with most of his material anyway? I think "G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 & 2" were both recorded on Death Row except for a few songs.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 07, 2013, 03:06:58 PM
Well, truthfully, the unreleased catalog probably isn't worth the troubles.

True but if they reissued Doggystyle in a digipak with genuine session leftovers, notes and a DVD and limited pressing vinyl, theres a good chance it would top the charts. And at the same time do the t-shirt range, posters and shit. Thats what E1 about as I understand it
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 07, 2013, 03:16:02 PM
I actually was hoping they'd do a reissue like that.  Perhaps re-insert "G'z Up, Hoes Down" into the mix.

That's what I think Wideawake should have concentrated on, instead of putting out over-priced "unreleased" albums.  If they did like one of those cool re-issue sets with a bonus CD with all the single B-sides and shit like that, they could have something. With it being the anniversary of "Doggystyle", E1 should have hopped on that.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 07, 2013, 03:18:27 PM
I actually was hoping they'd do a reissue like that.  Perhaps re-insert "G'z Up, Hoes Down" into the mix.

That's what I think Wideawake should have concentrated on, instead of putting out over-priced "unreleased" albums.  If they did like one of those cool re-issue sets with a bonus CD with all the single B-sides and shit like that, they could have something. With it being the anniversary of "Doggystyle", E1 should have hopped on that.

I guess E1 didn't have time to get it straight yet.

G'z Up, Hoes Down is a must. Renew the sample clearances and you got a instant rap collectors item
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on December 07, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
On the real though, how many people outside of dubcc want to hear sum unreleased death row stuf
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 08, 2013, 01:12:18 AM
On the real though, how many people outside of dubcc want to hear sum unreleased death row stuf

Cmon man that line is played out. Anyone who came up through 90's hiphop who was down from day 1 with the notorius Death Row
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 08, 2013, 04:00:11 AM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 08, 2013, 12:48:46 PM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.
I don't envision much in the way of new releases.  Wideawake tried it.  I think Laura Lavi had a decent enough plan but she got cut off at the legs before she got out the gate. 
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 08, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 08, 2013, 06:54:02 PM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 08, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.


Lol nobody's buying those. Look what happened to wide awake trying to release these unreleased projects. They're better off just selling them in iTunes   
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 09, 2013, 12:40:05 AM
Wideawake didnt wanna invest in the unreleased projects thats why didnt sell not to mention no marketing  or  promoting nothing  they were bound to fail.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 09, 2013, 04:10:24 AM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.


Lol nobody's buying those. Look what happened to wide awake trying to release these unreleased projects. They're better off just selling them in iTunes   

No ones buying a Special Edition of The Chronic huh fam? :D
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 09, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.


Lol nobody's buying those. Look what happened to wide awake trying to release these unreleased projects. They're better off just selling them in iTunes   

No ones buying a Special Edition of The Chronic huh fam? :D

Count how many times The Chronic has been rereleased everybody already has it! It's like a Thriller rerelease.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 09, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.


Lol nobody's buying those. Look what happened to wide awake trying to release these unreleased projects. They're better off just selling them in iTunes   

No ones buying a Special Edition of The Chronic huh fam? :D

Count how many times The Chronic has been rereleased everybody already has it! It's like a Thriller rerelease.

Special Edition means NEW stuff. It would sell ;)
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on December 09, 2013, 05:25:08 PM
Well, truthfully, the unreleased catalog probably isn't worth the troubles.

True but if they reissued Doggystyle in a digipak with genuine session leftovers, notes and a DVD and limited pressing vinyl, theres a good chance it would top the charts. And at the same time do the t-shirt range, posters and shit. Thats what E1 about as I understand it

Lol there's no way it would top the charts. They need to do some stuff like getondown.com e.g. http://www.getondown.com/album.php?id=15669. Make 100-500 copies and sell them that way, mass producing the stuff isn't going to work because the demand isn't there. 91-96 was a long time ago, and the majority of cats who listened to gangster rap back then have probably grown up and moved on.

Wideawake were going the right direction with The Chronic Re-Lit which was dope, but how much did that even sell? Licencing and residuals are where the only money is in the Death Row catalogue, E1 bought all they should have.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: V2DHeart on December 10, 2013, 02:53:42 AM
As far as current $$$ go, these are from the legacy releases only.

Legacy
Dr Dre - The Chronic
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Above The Rim SDT
Murder was the Case SDT
Dogg Pound - Dogg Food
2Pac - All Eyez on Me & Makaveli (limited to single releases only) This is limited due to a current dispute in masters.

Others
Snoop Dogg - Doggfather
Kurupt - Against The Grain

E1 have appeared to have gained rights for Michel'le (Hung Jury) but more importantly the tracks on her WIDEawake release (as other current WIDEawake releases) to secure it from the bankruptcy of the New Solutions financial corporation so assumption would be that the entire catalogue has been purchased as WIDEawake had already re-released material from the legacy releases and E1 had distribution deals in place. The problem and hold up seem to be due to the 2Pac issue. WIDEawake were permitted to release one albums worth of unreleased material and hand over the remaining masters to the Shakur estate, but because E1 have purchased the catalogue, they were already in a legal battle over royalties for a 2Pac release titled the beginnings. That could in turn eventually be classed as the "one album of unreleased" recordings, which wouldn't be pleasing news to 2Pac fans expecting a new album anytime soon.

E1, I'm sure will work out a deal to enable them to release/distribute/manage a release some time in the future
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Fraxxx on December 10, 2013, 03:11:23 AM
On the real though, how many people outside of dubcc want to hear sum unreleased death row stuf

Honestly? I couldn't care less about unreleased Snoop from '93.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: PhunkyDoob on December 10, 2013, 05:16:05 AM
Well, truthfully, the unreleased catalog probably isn't worth the troubles.

True but if they reissued Doggystyle in a digipak with genuine session leftovers, notes and a DVD and limited pressing vinyl, theres a good chance it would top the charts. And at the same time do the t-shirt range, posters and shit. Thats what E1 about as I understand it

You do know that everything ain't free right? Those things will cost money & there's alot of legal stuff that comes with it & splits they'll have to share, especially if they wanna release lots of said things, quanitity wise. That's money they'll invest with no return on. Listen, dubcc isn't the world. Outside of this forum or small fan-forums nobody is gonna buy or be that interested in those things. It's a small niche. So there is no reason for them to invest that much money on these things, money or resources they might not even have at the moment.

I like the idea just as much as you but realistically it's not happening. I would love a DVD of some unreleased footage too, but it's not happening just cuz you & i want it. The DVD they released for Chronic Re-Lit had footage that was already out on Youtube anyway prior to it's relese. That Dre interview for example been around for years.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 10, 2013, 09:54:36 AM
There is a lot of fans that listen to deathrow music that are not on the forum. Deathrow will always live on hopefully with some news and some releases.

Yes but not enough to invest money on these albums that only a handful of people are asking for. They'd never break even on the money they spend on a project like LBC Crew or Top Dogg.

LBC crew should not even be mentioned in the same line as Top Dogg. Of Course they shouldn't put money into that shit.

It's all about marketing and collectability with non mainstream stuff these days. They could do a series of numbered releases with special art slipcases and booklets (for example)

Death Row Classics series

#1 The Chronic: Special Edition
#2 Dogg Food: Deluxe Edition
#4 The Chronic Tour 2 Disk DVD Edition
#5 Snoop Doggy Dogg: Demos & Unreleased Vol 1
#6 LBC Crew: Haven't You Heard (wBonus CD)
#7 Kurupt The Kingpin: The Lost Tapes


Collectors go mad for numbered, limited shit and once you establish the brand you drop in the obscure stuff. They could even do a Magazine series with a CD on the cover each month. There's $$$ in the brand no doubt.


Lol nobody's buying those. Look what happened to wide awake trying to release these unreleased projects. They're better off just selling them in iTunes   

No ones buying a Special Edition of The Chronic huh fam? :D

Count how many times The Chronic has been rereleased everybody already has it! It's like a Thriller rerelease.

Special Edition means NEW stuff. It would sell ;)

How much "new" stuff do you think they have from the Chronic? Anything they have Dre owns rights to so they couldn't do shit with it anyway.


Lol there's no way it would top the charts. They need to do some stuff like getondown.com e.g. http://www.getondown.com/album.php?id=15669. Make 100-500 copies and sell them that way, mass producing the stuff isn't going to work because the demand isn't there. 91-96 was a long time ago, and the majority of cats who listened to gangster rap back then have probably grown up and moved on.

^ listen to him, he gets it!
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 10, 2013, 10:51:51 AM
LOL @ 'dubcc aint the world'



You're telling me aside from a few people on here, no one in the real world remembers the Chronic? :D :D :D :D


Jimi Hendrix had a no 2 album this year. I guess you're telling me they made a loss on that too
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: PhunkyDoob on December 10, 2013, 01:06:43 PM
LOL @ 'dubcc aint the world'



You're telling me aside from a few people on here, no one in the real world remembers the Chronic? :D :D :D :D


Jimi Hendrix had a no 2 album this year. I guess you're telling me they made a loss on that too

Wth are you talking about? Are you mentally ill or something?

What i clearly meant is that dubcc doesnt necessarely represent what the demand for it is like out in the real world, based on a few of you in here saying that you "know many people who'd be interest in it". Also, most people interested in The Chronic already have it, it has been re-released before & they might fuck with it from time to time but they aren't into it as much as this niche here.

Smh, comparing Jimmy Hendrix with a Chronic album - extremely bad analogy.

I was discussing in a business sense. First off, Jimmy Hendrix is dead. The hype that has surrounded that name based on that will always add extra fanbase, ala 2pac, Biggie material. Jimmy Hendrix is not a rapper. His fanbase would definitely be more wider & for a market a little bit older & possibily more financially stable. It's also 2 different genres were talking about here.

Then you have an album that has already been re-released. We were clearly, or so i thought, talking about if they re-released it again (!) & how well it would do.So it has nothing to do with people not liking The Chronic as an album but we're talking business here. You're letting your little small dubcc world & your own want for it cloud your mind into believing it would be a profitable investment for any investors if they decided to put alot of stocks in. They would not get a big return, which was my point.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: aerroc on December 10, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
LOL @ 'dubcc aint the world'



You're telling me aside from a few people on here, no one in the real world remembers the Chronic? :D :D :D :D


Jimi Hendrix had a no 2 album this year. I guess you're telling me they made a loss on that too

im sure there's plenty of people remember the Chronic but u need to remember all those people gots to be close to there 40s or older and probably moved on to real life i highly dont think those geezers going to buy any dr shit today

LOL   (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/04/article-2242804-1658373C000005DC-864_306x423.jpg)   :D
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on December 10, 2013, 07:06:02 PM
LOL @ 'dubcc aint the world'



You're telling me aside from a few people on here, no one in the real world remembers the Chronic? :D :D :D :D


Jimi Hendrix had a no 2 album this year. I guess you're telling me they made a loss on that too

Wth are you talking about? Are you mentally ill or something?

What i clearly meant is that dubcc doesnt necessarely represent what the demand for it is like out in the real world, based on a few of you in here saying that you "know many people who'd be interest in it". Also, most people interested in The Chronic already have it, it has been re-released before & they might fuck with it from time to time but they aren't into it as much as this niche here.

Smh, comparing Jimmy Hendrix with a Chronic album - extremely bad analogy.

I was discussing in a business sense. First off, Jimmy Hendrix is dead. The hype that has surrounded that name based on that will always add extra fanbase, ala 2pac, Biggie material. Jimmy Hendrix is not a rapper. His fanbase would definitely be more wider & for a market a little bit older & possibily more financially stable. It's also 2 different genres were talking about here.

Then you have an album that has already been re-released. We were clearly, or so i thought, talking about if they re-released it again (!) & how well it would do.So it has nothing to do with people not liking The Chronic as an album but we're talking business here. You're letting your little small dubcc world & your own want for it cloud your mind into believing it would be a profitable investment for any investors if they decided to put alot of stocks in. They would not get a big return, which was my point.


You're only half right.  Dr. Dre is arguably bigger than Jimmi Hendrix as far as popularity goes, if he's not bigger than he's definitely his equal or somewhere near to it to the point where u couldn't really measure.  You're sleeping on the Force that IS Dr. Dre.... all bias aside!


But I agree with you on just about everything else.  Re-releasing "The Chronic" would be a horrible idea, in fact, it's been a horrible idea.  If anything they should've re-released it in late 2004 or sometime in 2005 when Aftermath was at their peak and wrapped it up for a later date. 


But u have to give Dubcc a little credit tho.  Even tho it's a Ruthless Family Tree-based forum, that still means something to the culture, a big something if i might add.  The Ruthless & Death Row years were arguably the best thing to ever happen to Hip Hop.  Hip Hop is bigger than just Ruthless Records but Ruthless Records is definitely essential to the Culture.  You should be grateful a site like this exist with People who are heavily into it (even tho the Mods suck).  Their ear to music is of value.... if u know how to milk it
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 11, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
There is a lot  of material in the deathrow vault that people want to hear doggpound materail  snoop stuff  daz and kurupt. if u can get daz and snoop to work  with e one  the music will sell it needs the right people.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: tonyscarbones on December 11, 2013, 05:26:02 AM
A death row box set or dre box set would be HUGE

if u disagree ur a fool

rolling stones led zeppelin beatles grateful dead hendrix etc

all those box sets sold large amounts when they dropped

death row is the music of the new era of 30s and 40s people as those other bands I listed were
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 11, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
A death row box set or dre box set would be HUGE

if u disagree ur a fool

rolling stones led zeppelin beatles grateful dead hendrix etc

all those box sets sold large amounts when they dropped

death row is the music of the new era of 30s and 40s people as those other bands I listed were

Yeah these clowns are catching massive feelings of this for some reason.

A deluxe edition of The Chronic for example would have a second disc with all the b-sides collected together and maybe some previously unreleased instrumentals. If they get Dre's involvement maybe some vault stuff on there too...

Either way...It. Would. Sell.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: MUHFUKKA on December 11, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
i really doubt the wideawake chronic rerelease sold much at all. and that had updated cover art and the dvd with vault songs. see will you gotta understand, most rap fans that were teenagers or whatever when the chronic came out have kinda grown up and lost interest in buying rap music, not everyone is double og will bean
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Will_B on December 11, 2013, 10:26:03 AM
i really doubt the wideawake chronic rerelease sold much at all. and that had updated cover art and the dvd with vault songs. see will you gotta understand, most rap fans that were teenagers or whatever when the chronic came out have kinda grown up and lost interest in buying rap music, not everyone is double og will bean


Marketing.

Universal got that shit on lock for the Marvin Gaye releases etc. They even do 90's albums you've probably never heard of too.


'Seminal' albums get re released ad infinitum. A homie who works in the industry told me rap albums don't because of small imprints and rights issues.



Stuff like this gets pushed in specialty outlets and sells.
(http://s17.postimg.org/6s2vrx44f/R_1490560_1223616370.jpg)

(http://s23.postimg.org/87wxnh6yz/R_1490560_1336386075.jpg)

Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: MUHFUKKA on December 11, 2013, 11:59:40 AM
they marketed the chronic rerelease pretty heavy. not even comparable to the other ones. i remember even seeing tv commercials here and there. i can see it happening with indie rockers with crazy cult fanbases and older stuff that didnt even come out on cd originally but not rap albums that came out in the 90's. they tried it and it didnt work, if it did they would still be making money off it
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: tonyscarbones on December 11, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
Nah they did that relit chronic wrong

the non rap bands reissues sell cuz they do them right

if they did deathrow rereleases right, they would sell

them bonus tracks are not what a fan wants

a fan wants

hoe hopper
ratatat og
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 11, 2013, 10:47:26 PM
Well, to be fair, they can't legally put those out.

Wideawake's big failure was in not dealing with the quality issues after Snoop Lost Sessions. They released some pretty cool tracks in mediocre quality.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 12, 2013, 01:06:46 AM
Wideawake made so many  mistakes with the catalogue  the way those albums came out  with no mixing or mastering involved shitty artwork lack of artists involvement .
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: tonyscarbones on December 12, 2013, 03:45:37 AM
If theyre not gonna put out stuff like
 hoe hopper
next episode og
ratatat og
etc vaulted joints made by DRE with the main artists rappin on them

then yea its a waste of time
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: V2DHeart on December 12, 2013, 04:08:13 AM
LOL @ 'dubcc aint the world'



You're telling me aside from a few people on here, no one in the real world remembers the Chronic? :D :D :D :D


Jimi Hendrix had a no 2 album this year. I guess you're telling me they made a loss on that too

Wth are you talking about? Are you mentally ill or something?

What i clearly meant is that dubcc doesnt necessarely represent what the demand for it is like out in the real world, based on a few of you in here saying that you "know many people who'd be interest in it". Also, most people interested in The Chronic already have it, it has been re-released before & they might fuck with it from time to time but they aren't into it as much as this niche here.

Smh, comparing Jimmy Hendrix with a Chronic album - extremely bad analogy.

I was discussing in a business sense. First off, Jimmy Hendrix is dead. The hype that has surrounded that name based on that will always add extra fanbase, ala 2pac, Biggie material. Jimmy Hendrix is not a rapper. His fanbase would definitely be more wider & for a market a little bit older & possibily more financially stable. It's also 2 different genres were talking about here.

Then you have an album that has already been re-released. We were clearly, or so i thought, talking about if they re-released it again (!) & how well it would do.So it has nothing to do with people not liking The Chronic as an album but we're talking business here. You're letting your little small dubcc world & your own want for it cloud your mind into believing it would be a profitable investment for any investors if they decided to put alot of stocks in. They would not get a big return, which was my point.


You're only half right.  Dr. Dre is arguably bigger than Jimmi Hendrix as far as popularity goes

That's a good "get out" clause right there  ;D

I don't think any producer, or a producer who's an artist/producer will ever outshine a dedicated artist. Dr Dre is respected and certainly a stronghold name for 'success' or business but no where near the iconic status that Hendrix has outwith the normal boundaries of music. Hendrix, like Lennon, like Bob Marley are not just legendary and iconic of specific genre's of music, or even music in general, but rather entire "era's". Dr Dre is, and probably never will be anywhere near that level. But again, it's opinion.

Just look at Quincy Jones. The man is a living legend, has produced entire albums. Off the Wall & Thriller, even producing some of the biggest names in music ever, Sinatra, Fitzgerald etc. and by rights has more musical talent than Dre because he can play more instruments as well as produce in the studio, but even he won't have the iconic popularity of the figures previously mentioned. Dr Dre will always be known and respected, just not that timeless iconic status that will be of any symbolic use (like on T-Shirts 30 years after he's gone)
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 14, 2013, 02:03:03 AM
I wanna hear the following albums that are in the vault  crooked i untouchable, say hi to the bad guy, nina , eastwood born to be hated, doggpound westcoast aftershock, lets hope e one can release some of these next year .
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 14, 2013, 06:35:23 AM
Yea release Untochable would be so dope  8)
WideAwake fuked up on almost every lv.
1. Every album had terrible mastering & mixing
2. Sam Sneed's album - seriously? Half of songs are newly recorded and half is original from 90's
3. Chronic Re-lit no more available; they lose money cuz Dre's lawsuit. And these bonus tracks could be played only on PC :/
4. 20 to life - some songs were already released on offical release and mistaken discription (artists, producers).
5. Kurupt - Dwon & Dirty - this supposed to be Against the Grain re-release. But they cut some of tracks so WTF.
6. Snoop Doggy Dogg Lost Sessions - mastering...
7. Crooked I Hood Star - why the fuck they didn't put out just original album like Untouchable or SHTBG
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: donfathaimmortal on December 14, 2013, 07:15:53 AM
Yea release Untochable would be so dope  8)

Perhaps Darren Vegas gonna leak every track from Untouchable album ;)
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 14, 2013, 08:28:21 AM
Thx to those leaks we didn't get many offical releases. Seriously something has to change in internet and piracy: this should be not allowed and punished.
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Post by: NIBIRU on December 14, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
i've 35 years and i m fan of DEATH ROW RECORDS , the time is long .

 I want the unreleased death row , all artists , maybe in the web i tunes or amazon but . plz ,must be released!!
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 15, 2013, 03:15:39 AM
I want to hear deathrow  unreleased tracks aswell hopefully soon.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 15, 2013, 05:11:04 AM
First I would like to see fix'd wideawake's release. E1 should drop OFTB and LBC Crew albums with better mastering and some bonus tracks (even 2 would be great) + it could be limited version. Then release Sam Sneed' album with original tracklist and then start to drop some new shit.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 15, 2013, 12:18:34 PM
First I would like to see fix'd wideawake's release. E1 should drop OFTB and LBC Crew albums with better mastering and some bonus tracks (even 2 would be great) + it could be limited version. Then release Sam Sneed' album with original tracklist and then start to drop some new shit.
Not too likely to happen.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 15, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
I know it's just my dream. If their releases would be in good quality then I would buy all, but they aren't so I keep money in pocket :)
Maybe they should use Kickstarter to check how many people would buy new stuff.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: sms130 on December 15, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
Didn't Nate leave with most of his material anyway? I think "G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 & 2" were both recorded on Death Row except for a few songs.
Yeah, Vol. 1 was recorded while on Death Row. It's the album that Death Row was gonna release back in 1997 but, was shelved. Vol. 2 was recorded after leaving Death Row. I think Nate Dogg sued Death Row in the later part of 1997 and won, while was why he was able to leave the label, take Vol. 1, and all of his unreleased material from Death Row. This was Wideawake didn't have no unreleased Nate Dogg except for him appearing on songs by other artists.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 15, 2013, 02:18:52 PM
I know it's just my dream. If their releases would be in good quality then I would buy all, but they aren't so I keep money in pocket :)
Maybe they should use Kickstarter to check how many people would buy new stuff.
I was of the opinion that if they took some of that LBC Crew, Lost Sessions, "Relit" bonus tracks, and unreleased music from that Death Row boxed set and put it out on some of those double-dip compilations they worked with that they might have something.

I don't think Wideawake has put out anything close to those last two Death Row compilations that E1/Koch dropped before the label went bankrupt, "15 Years" and that "Remixes & Rarities" project.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: sms130 on December 15, 2013, 02:51:19 PM
I know it's just my dream. If their releases would be in good quality then I would buy all, but they aren't so I keep money in pocket :)
Maybe they should use Kickstarter to check how many people would buy new stuff.
I was of the opinion that if they took some of that LBC Crew, Lost Sessions, "Relit" bonus tracks, and unreleased music from that Death Row boxed set and put it out on some of those double-dip compilations they worked with that they might have something.

I don't think Wideawake has put out anything close to those last two Death Row compilations that E1/Koch dropped before the label went bankrupt, "15 Years" and that "Remixes & Rarities" project.

I agree with you on that. The only problems about those compilations from E1/Koch was the fact that they didn't use the original tapes and they used MP3s as a source. SMH!
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Post by: dnjp4life on December 16, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
It's an interesting question actually considering there were about 4 or 5 Death Row Records songs recently used in the GTA V game.  I wonder how Rockstar Games managed to acquire the rights to use these songs and who they paid?
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 17, 2013, 03:12:16 AM
GTA V should have more songs, here list of lefotvers:
    2Pac (feat. K-Ci & JoJo) - How Do U Want It (1996)
    2Pac - Outlaw (1995)
    Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Mr. Bill Collector (1995)
    Kam - Whoop Whoop (1997)
    Nate Dogg - I Got Love (2001)
    Spice 1 - 187 Proof (1992)
    Spice 1 (feat. MC Eiht) - The Murda Show (1993)
    Mack 10 (feat. Ice Cube & WC) - Westside Slaughterhouse (1995)
    Warren G (feat. Nate Dogg) - Regulate (1994)
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: jory on December 17, 2013, 07:58:07 AM

Didn't Nate leave with most of his material anyway? I think "G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 & 2" were both recorded on Death Row except for a few songs.
Yeah, Vol. 1 was recorded while on Death Row. It's the album that Death Row was gonna release back in 1997 but, was shelved. Vol. 2 was recorded after leaving Death Row. I think Nate Dogg sued Death Row in the later part of 1997 and won, while was why he was able to leave the label, take Vol. 1, and all of his unreleased material from Death Row. This was Wideawake didn't have no unreleased Nate Dogg except for him appearing on songs by other artists.

it was released in some countrys on death row. iv got it in a box somewhere

GTA V should have more songs, here list of lefotvers:
    2Pac (feat. K-Ci & JoJo) - How Do U Want It (1996)
    2Pac - Outlaw (1995)
    Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Mr. Bill Collector (1995)
    Kam - Whoop Whoop (1997)
    Nate Dogg - I Got Love (2001)
    Spice 1 - 187 Proof (1992)
    Spice 1 (feat. MC Eiht) - The Murda Show (1993)
    Mack 10 (feat. Ice Cube & WC) - Westside Slaughterhouse (1995)
    Warren G (feat. Nate Dogg) - Regulate (1994)

that would of been great. how do u know they were going to on the game? why were they cut?
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 17, 2013, 08:27:41 AM
It's from GTA's wiki (they where hidden in game's files). For sure it's about rights, money or just Rockstarr thought it's enough songs.
EDIT That's how people know about future DLC in games - some files are already in and developers don't remember to delete them :P
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: donfathaimmortal on December 17, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
First I would like to see fix'd wideawake's release. E1 should drop OFTB and LBC Crew albums with better mastering and some bonus tracks (even 2 would be great) + it could be limited version. Then release Sam Sneed' album with original tracklist and then start to drop some new shit.

Sam Sneed didn't want to release his unreleased DR stuff. Plus, several songs from og Street Scholars album weren't finished. Anyway, WIDEawake didn't suceed in managing the Death Row catalog, altough Snoop, LBC Crew, D.B. and OFTB albums were good releases.

Didn't Nate leave with most of his material anyway? I think "G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 & 2" were both recorded on Death Row except for a few songs.
Yeah, Vol. 1 was recorded while on Death Row. It's the album that Death Row was gonna release back in 1997 but, was shelved. Vol. 2 was recorded after leaving Death Row. I think Nate Dogg sued Death Row in the later part of 1997 and won, while was why he was able to leave the label, take Vol. 1, and all of his unreleased material from Death Row. This was Wideawake didn't have no unreleased Nate Dogg except for him appearing on songs by other artists.

Nate Dogg G.Funk Classics Vol.1 was release by Interscope, only a few copies before Nate Dogg got the full rights for his material. He re-released G.Funk Classics Vol.1 (and Vol.2) then with his Dogg Foundation imprint which was ditributed by Breakaway (19th Street Records, unreleased Death Row's Inside Out Compilation)
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 17, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
Sam Sneed didn't want to release his unreleased DR stuff. Plus, several songs from og Street Scholars album weren't finished. Anyway, WIDEawake didn't suceed in managing the Death Row catalog, altough Snoop, LBC Crew, D.B. and OFTB albums were good releases.
 
The material on them was good but the releases themselves had their share of problems. 
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: V2DHeart on December 18, 2013, 02:52:41 AM
E1 own the entire Sam Sneed release as well as the other songs recorded for it. Some of the unreleased material he was already paid for, so E1 can do what they like with it

We will have to wait until the new year to see what's what
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: adi760 on December 18, 2013, 04:00:02 AM
But seriously how long it's gonna take for 'em? It's been 6 months since bankrupcy?
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: sms130 on December 18, 2013, 08:11:29 AM
Nate Dogg G.Funk Classics Vol.1 was release by Interscope, only a few copies before Nate Dogg got the full rights for his material. He re-released G.Funk Classics Vol.1 (and Vol.2) then with his Dogg Foundation imprint which was ditributed by Breakaway (19th Street Records, unreleased Death Row's Inside Out Compilation)

Yeah, I heard some copies of the CD made it's way around but, the album wasn't officially released here in the U.S. I had a Best Buy ad for the album. I think it was gonna be released close to the release of the Gridloc'd soundtrack. I think it was gonna be released back-to-back with soundtrack like how Death Row did in November of 1996 with The 7 Day Theory and Tha Doggfather release.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: V2DHeart on December 18, 2013, 09:47:18 AM
They only put out Nate to encourage him to stay on the label otherwise he would have been gone a lot earlier. Never leave me alone was another song that was meant to be on Gridlock'd, along with Staring thru the rearview. He wasn't really meant to have a full album release as the focus in 97 was to set up Death Row East & Makaveli.
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Post by: Kashif mirza on December 18, 2013, 11:11:56 AM
I wonder if the artists know whats going on with the deathrow catalogue.
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Post by: adi760 on December 18, 2013, 12:16:51 PM
Even if they do i think cannot talk about this.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on December 22, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Hendrix, like Lennon, like Bob Marley are not just legendary and iconic of specific genre's of music, or even music in general, but rather entire "era's". Dr Dre is, and probably never will be anywhere near that level. But again, it's opinion.

Just look at Quincy Jones. The man is a living legend, has produced entire albums. Off the Wall & Thriller, even producing some of the biggest names in music ever, Sinatra, Fitzgerald etc. and by rights has more musical talent than Dre because he can play more instruments as well as produce in the studio, but even he won't have the iconic popularity of the figures previously mentioned. Dr Dre will always be known and respected, just not that timeless iconic status that will be of any symbolic use (like on T-Shirts 30 years after he's gone)


Yeah that's DEFINITELY YOUR Opinion.  You're definitely wrong as shit and I'm not even saying that becuz I'm a dedicated member of this Forum. 


If you don't think Dr. Dre is as popular as Jimmy Hendrix or even more popular than my main man Jimmy H then you need to get your head up outta your ass and stop living in 1993.  Dr. Dre is world renound. 


You're fantasizing BIG TIME!
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on December 22, 2013, 06:38:27 PM
On some SmartPhones [and I can't say all becuz I've only owned 3].  You can't even bootleg Dr. Dre's music. 




It goes to show you that Dre is something The Government considers when considering Mass Public Entertainment. 




And you can say what you want but that's a pretty big fuckin' deal. 





And so what there are Artist that the same Ban applies to.  It still doesn't change the fact that Dr. Dre is among the list.  I can download "Magna Carta Holy Grail" with no problem and always could.... I can't say the same thing for "The Chronic" or "2001"
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: JeremyM on December 22, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Nate Dogg G.Funk Classics Vol.1 was release by Interscope, only a few copies before Nate Dogg got the full rights for his material. He re-released G.Funk Classics Vol.1 (and Vol.2) then with his Dogg Foundation imprint which was ditributed by Breakaway (19th Street Records, unreleased Death Row's Inside Out Compilation)

Yeah, I heard some copies of the CD made it's way around but, the album wasn't officially released here in the U.S. I had a Best Buy ad for the album. I think it was gonna be released close to the release of the Gridloc'd soundtrack. I think it was gonna be released back-to-back with soundtrack like how Death Row did in November of 1996 with The 7 Day Theory and Tha Doggfather release.

I'm still bitter that I showed up at Best Buy to buy the album only to find a sign saying it had been delayed.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: dnjp4life on December 23, 2013, 01:30:16 AM
Nate Dogg G.Funk Classics Vol.1 was release by Interscope, only a few copies before Nate Dogg got the full rights for his material. He re-released G.Funk Classics Vol.1 (and Vol.2) then with his Dogg Foundation imprint which was ditributed by Breakaway (19th Street Records, unreleased Death Row's Inside Out Compilation)

Yeah, I heard some copies of the CD made it's way around but, the album wasn't officially released here in the U.S. I had a Best Buy ad for the album. I think it was gonna be released close to the release of the Gridloc'd soundtrack. I think it was gonna be released back-to-back with soundtrack like how Death Row did in November of 1996 with The 7 Day Theory and Tha Doggfather release.

I'm still bitter that I showed up at Best Buy to buy the album only to find a sign saying it had been delayed.

I think the album was sold in Canada only as my copy states that it was distributed by Interscope Canada or something like that.  I don't know what the time period between it going on sale and getting pulled from shelves was, but it can't have been long.

Going back to my earlier point, according to Wikipedia, Daz' lawyers recently sent a cease-and-desist letter to Rockstar Games stating that they have used 2 of his songs/productions ('C-Walk' and 'Nothin' But The Cavi Hit') without prior permission.  Apparently they offered him around $4,000 for the rights to use the songs in the game but he rejected the money, but they went and used the songs anyway.  This suggests that Daz does not have the rights to any of his material recorded on Death Row Records.
Title: Re: so whats the deal with the deathrow purchase?
Post by: Kashif mirza on December 23, 2013, 01:46:45 AM
Maybe daz is working  with e one deathrow so he let them use the tracks.