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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: jmix on February 13, 2014, 06:16:45 PM
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Here is Part 4 of MY Exclusive Interview with Natasha Walker.
We Speak On
If Tupac Was Affiliated
The Rape Case
If The Rape Case Got Tupac Killed (Part 1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC9SdvslPCE
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how come you didn't ask the REAL question here:
did she bone 2pac?
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how come you didn't ask the REAL question here:
did she bone 2pac?
only faggots like you wanna know.
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how come you didn't ask the REAL question here:
did she bone 2pac?
Jmix is a prude. He needs to listen to some of 2pac's music about sexuality and become a little more mature from it. Be a real fan, jmix, and listen to your boy Pac. If Pac were interviewing Natasha, you better believe he'd ask her about fucking!
Pac was a real nigga.
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It's obvious that she fucked Tupac. In this interview, she talked about Tupac's habits when he woke up in the morning - reading a newspaper while shitting, smoking a blunt, listening to songs recorded the night before. A bitch would only know a nigga's morning rituals if they were fucking and the bitch woke up next to the nigga.
Jmix is straight prudish...he probably skips over The Thug N Me and How Do U Want It (etc.) whenever they come on...damn, this nigga is old and sad...how you gonna be a true Pac fan with no interest in fucking? Probably 1/3 or 1/4 of Pac's songs are about fucking.
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I dont think its prude, just a bit respectful. Im not going to disrespect her with that trivial shit. Of course she fucked Pac. GTFOH.
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Here's a preview of what's to come on Part 5 of the Natasha Walker interview:
Natasha:...so, I woke up next to Pac one morning...
Jmix: OK. In your opinion, did Suge Knight have a hand in the murder of Tupac?
Natasha:...Tupac loved the ladies, you know.
Jmix: What were Pac's last days like? Was he happy on Death Row?
Natasha:...you know I fucked Tupac, right?
Jmix: That's cool, but let me ask you about conspiracy theories and murders and shit like that, OK? I'm more interested in Pac's death than his life.
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Here's a preview of what's to come on Part 5 of the Natasha Walker interview:
Natasha:...so, I woke up next to Pac one morning...
Jmix: OK. In your opinion, did Suge Knight have a hand in the murder of Tupac?
Natasha:...Tupac loved the ladies, you know.
Jmix: What were Pac's last days like? Was he happy on Death Row?
Natasha:...you know I fucked Tupac, right?
Jmix: That's cool, but let me ask you about conspiracy theories and murders and shit like that, OK? I'm more interested in Pac's death than his life.
lmao
ouch
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question for jmix are you going to try interview ygd top dog or tha realest ?
and you and 2pac forum are affilitated because they seem to interview the same ppl and ask the same questions ??
thanks
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Jmix??
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
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Very tru everyone just chooses not to believe it
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Kendrick is not a blood & Ab Soul is not a crip. 2Pac did not kick Big syke to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life. Big Skye was Mussolini of The Outlawz & 2Pac's brother Mopreme was Komani of the Outlawz . Both of them were Thug Life & Outlawz. 2Pac was not a MOB Piru . That is fact .
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Some misinformation in the last two posts. Kendrick is not a Blood, but he grew up in the Lueders Park area. Big Syke and Mopreme were not in the Outlawz, even if they did take on dictator names... it's because everyone was supposed to contribute toward a bigger group Outlaw Immortalz (which was to include Syke and Mopreme, hence their "new" aliases), but it didn't work out that way, with Mopreme not hanging out with Death Row anymore since he got punked there (it's mentioned when he was interviewed for the Biggie & Tupac documentary, though he didn't go into much detail) and Syke eventually hanging out less and less with Death Row too, so the younger guys became the Outlawz, pretty much being a combination of Fatal & Felony (Kadafi) and Dramacydal, and being Pac's crew. Syke didn't get kicked to the curb, but like I said, he was around Death Row (and Pac) less and less as 1996 progressed.
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Some misinformation in the last two posts. Kendrick is not a Blood, but he grew up in the Lueders Park area. Big Syke and Mopreme were not in the Outlawz, even if they did take on dictator names... it's because everyone was supposed to contribute toward a bigger group Outlaw Immortalz (which was to include Syke and Mopreme, hence their "new" aliases), but it didn't work out that way, with Mopreme not hanging out with Death Row anymore since he got punked there (it's mentioned when he was interviewed for the Biggie & Tupac documentary, though he didn't go into much detail) and Syke eventually hanging out less and less with Death Row too, so the younger guys became the Outlawz, pretty much being a combination of Fatal & Felony (Kadafi) and Dramacydal, and being Pac's crew. Syke didn't get kicked to the curb, but like I said, he was around Death Row (and Pac) less and less as 1996 progressed.
When was "My Closest RoadDoggz" recorded? That song always sounded to me like it belonged very close to the end of Pac's life, but meybe it was earlier in his Death Row days, perhaps closer to AEOM?
It's interesting to see the distancing of Syke/Mopreme as the consequence of a Blood-dominated culture at DR. Never thought about it that way, but it makes sense.
Pac said in the VIBE interview: "I murdered Thug Life. Them niggas didn't act right. I murdered Thug Life and gave birth to the Outlawz." I wonder: what did the niggas in Thug Life do wrong that pissed off Pac? My guess: nothing at all, but Pac was paranoid, and probably thought they didn't represent him hard enough while he was in jail or something, and so Pac viewed that as disrespect. That would be typical of how Pac interpreted people's behavior. He said it himself that he was paranoid.
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
True shit, homie, excellent point.
And people should stop denying that Pac shouted M.O.B. thoughout 96 as a sign of Blood-affiliation. Yeah, he developed an alternate meaning - Money Over Bitches - but it would be retarded to think that every time Pac said N.I.G.G.A. or T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E. he was using these words purely in reference to the acronyms he developed rather than in reference to what the words typically meant. It would be like thinking that on "Rather Be Ya N.I.G.G.A." Pac is saying "I wanna be your never ignorant getting goals accomplished"....come on now, he was using M.O.B. and Nigga always with variable meanings, never only in the sense of his acronyms.
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
True shit, homie, excellent point.
And people should stop denying that Pac shouted M.O.B. thoughout 96 as a sign of Blood-affiliation. Yeah, he developed an alternate meaning - Money Over Bitches - but it would be retarded to think that every time Pac said N.I.G.G.A. or T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E. he was using these words purely in reference to the acronyms he developed rather than in reference to what the words typically meant. It would be like thinking that on "Rather Be Ya N.I.G.G.A." Pac is saying "I wanna be your never ignorant getting goals accomplished"....come on now, he was using M.O.B. and Nigga always with variable meanings, never only in the sense of his acronyms.
co-sign
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
True shit, homie, excellent point.
And people should stop denying that Pac shouted M.O.B. thoughout 96 as a sign of Blood-affiliation. Yeah, he developed an alternate meaning - Money Over Bitches - but it would be retarded to think that every time Pac said N.I.G.G.A. or T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E. he was using these words purely in reference to the acronyms he developed rather than in reference to what the words typically meant. It would be like thinking that on "Rather Be Ya N.I.G.G.A." Pac is saying "I wanna be your never ignorant getting goals accomplished"....come on now, he was using M.O.B. and Nigga always with variable meanings, never only in the sense of his acronyms.
pac didnt "develope" the phrase "money over bitches" was used by MOB Pirus aswell. watch on youtube hood2hood mob piru or something to lazy to find the vid where da pirus chillin sayin money over bytches an shit..even mentioned buntry and cursed his killer.
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When was "My Closest RoadDoggz" recorded? That song always sounded to me like it belonged very close to the end of Pac's life, but meybe it was earlier in his Death Row days, perhaps closer to AEOM?
It's hard to say, but my guess is that it was recorded toward the beginning of 1996, or at least in the first half. Plus the alternate version (which ended up being remixed for Until the End of Time) may have been recorded at a later date, which is very possible and may also explain why there were all of these M.O.B. references that popped up ("Bring artillery and roll with a nigga/ They can never take the soul of an M.O.B. soldier, nigga," "M.O.B. till I die, when we ride, niggas disappear") in the additional verses.
It's interesting to see the distancing of Syke/Mopreme as the consequence of a Blood-dominated culture at DR. Never thought about it that way, but it makes sense.
I wouldn't say that Death Row had a Blood-dominated culture, though I get why you may say that, considering Suge was running the label and brought on Bloods of his choosing for his staff. But at the end of the day, the artist roster (which is what generated their music, which is what kept the money coming in) consisted of far more Crips than Bloods, though the label was pretty much split up that way too, when it came down to anyone and everyone getting checks from Death Row.
In the case of Big Syke and Mopreme, it was just difficult for them to fit in on either side. Yes, Syke was a Crip, but the Crip faction of Death Row was mostly from Long Beach and already tight with each other, and they may not have mingled much with other Crips from outside of Long Beach, especially since it's not like all Crips get along either. (Remember that the Death Row-affiliated Long Beach Crip artists got into it with other Crips too, from the Compton Crips riding for Eazy-E to the Venice Shore Line Crips they scrapped with at a NYE party to the point where even the Death Row Bloods got involved too.) Plus when Pac was more into hanging with Suge and his crew as time went on, Syke and Mopreme probably felt more alienated and didn't quite fit in on either side. They weren't as close as the Crips were to each other, being from Long Beach, and they certainly didn't fit with the Bloods, who weren't as tightly knit but were still composed of cross-town cliques (various Compton Pirus, Bounty Hunters, etc.). Pac had begun to embrace Suge's clique and take on a lot of that culture (hence why Syke used to characterize Pac as a chameleon), and it probably wasn't a big deal for the Outlawz who followed suit out of loyalty to Pac, whereas Syke and Mopreme may not have been as willing to roll with it, given their age.
Pac said in the VIBE interview: "I murdered Thug Life. Them niggas didn't act right. I murdered Thug Life and gave birth to the Outlawz." I wonder: what did the niggas in Thug Life do wrong that pissed off Pac? My guess: nothing at all, but Pac was paranoid, and probably thought they didn't represent him hard enough while he was in jail or something, and so Pac viewed that as disrespect. That would be typical of how Pac interpreted people's behavior. He said it himself that he was paranoid.
He was absolutely paranoid. But at the same time, with everyone supposedly being thugs and street niggas or whatever, he expected them to do something, though it was mostly only Syke and Mopreme who stuck with Pac (even though it's not like they made moves either). Not that I endorse violence (or that Pac did either), but compare it to his Vegas shooting... even before Pac died, whether it was out of loyalty for Pac or at Suge's command, things were already popping off in Compton hoods between the Pirus and the Crips immediately after the shooting. They were riding.
pac didnt "develope" the phrase "money over bitches" was used by MOB Pirus aswell. watch on youtube hood2hood mob piru or something to lazy to find the vid where da pirus chillin sayin money over bytches an shit..even mentioned buntry and cursed his killer.
It's hard to say. Some people seem to think that regardless of who created it, Pac definitely made it more popular (not just "Money Over Bitches" but "M.O.B." as a phrase in general), and perhaps the younger generation of Mob Piru (meaning they got put on the hood in the late '90s or later) may have picked up the Money Over Bitches thing a lot more and pumped it more than the earlier generations did because of it. But it's not the only meaning of M.O.B. either, but it's the most commonly used one, at least publicly.
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Regarding My Closest RoadDoggs: I wonder if the revised version might have been changed to a Pac Solo track with Suge in mind rather than Syke? The M.O.B. and gang references in Pac's verses fit better with Suge being the Closest "Row" Dawg rather than Syke.
It's funny that there's been so much speculation about beef between Pac and Suge. Yes, Pac was pissed off about money. But clearly he loved Suge and rode with Suge and basically died because of his loyalty to a gang he only joined because of his friendship with Suge. I'm sure Pac blamed the money mis-handling on accountants and white-collar people, not Suge.
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Regarding My Closest RoadDoggs: I wonder if the revised version might have been changed to a Pac Solo track with Suge in mind rather than Syke? The M.O.B. and gang references in Pac's verses fit better with Suge being the Closest "Row" Dawg rather than Syke.
Possibly. I started thinking that myself, when typing up my previous post. Suge mentioned before that "Never Had a Friend like Me" was about him (though it's not to say that it's true), so that could be possible too.
It's funny that there's been so much speculation about beef between Pac and Suge. Yes, Pac was pissed off about money. But clearly he loved Suge and rode with Suge and basically died because of his loyalty to a gang he only joined because of his friendship with Suge. I'm sure Pac blamed the money mis-handling on accountants and white-collar people, not Suge.
Suge gets the bulk of the blame, whether he deserves it or not. He was the head of the label, and any problems eventually fall back on him. So he had incompetent people handling Death Row's finances. So while he wasn't the one to screw over people, there was a ton of mismanagement. It's not like he had ADP overseeing Death Row's payroll, and my guess is that he just picked a couple people who needed jobs to handle the "accounting" of the company, and it's very likely that they basically only issued checks at Suge's order, rather than doing proper upkeep of their financial records and issuing paychecks on a regular basis.
Yes, Death Row had contracts that talked about advances, points, bonuses, etc., all likely legit and done by David Kenner, but it was up to Death Row to keep their contractual obligations and pay their artists in accordance with their record deals. So it's not like Kenner drafted bogus documents or Suge was intentionally withholding money from artists, it's just that their finances were always in disarray. Outside of Death Row's legal team, I highly doubt Suge picked people who were highly educated to take on important roles. And that's why you had all sorts of people suing them, along with the IRS knocking on Death Row's doors and chasing Suge for back taxes.
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Wasn't Pac pissed at Big Syke for still keeping in touch with Biggie?
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Pac was down with the set. Why else would he get mob tatted on him and shout it out? You think the set would let him play with their name like that? Aint false flaggin' a serious violation? Also, when pac said "fuck the rap game nigga this mob" you really think he meant money over bitches? Kurt Kobane has confirmed Pac was down with the set anyway, I'll take his word for it and if you listen to what she says she is telling you he was down but had planned to move on, which probably wouldn't be possible.
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That's one thing that a lot of people don't get. Yeah, they can talk all about how Pac said this and that about not being in a gang or whatever, but at the end of the day, Death Row had a lot of real ones outside of the recording booth... and like you said, false flagging would definitely get you checked. And with as many goons as Suge had around him, someone would've told him to tone the M.O.B. shit down if he wasn't really with them like that. Again, not saying he was a full-blown member or anything, but he was riding with them. If it wasn't, then it would've been a problem.
Hypothetically speaking, even if he really wasn't talking Mob but just some arbitrary M.O.B. thing unrelated to the set, they would've told him to stop. Everybody knows that Cedar Block Piru wears the Cincinnati Reds hats... try wearing that around Compton, and if asked, tell them that you're not from anywhere and that you're just a fan of the team. See how that works out. Or wear a Texas Tech hat. Or a Mariners hat. Same shit. You might end up going home without it.
The skinny guy with the gap in his teeth from the Welcome to Death Row and Tha Westside documentaries even said that people in the Death Row studios would get beat up for trying to basically set hop to make friends from both camps. And when it became a fad, dudes used to get beat up for Crip walking, if you weren't with the program but did it at the wrong place in front of the wrong people.
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Just listened to verse 3 on the UTEOT version of My Closest RoadDoggz again. Pretty interesting to hear how different it is from the first two verses. It definitely represents a different conception of the song from being about his friendship with Syke to being about the M.O.B. and all his niggas.
"See me in the physical form, my niggas swarm, take the figure of a circle, beating jealous niggas till they purple"
"Simon says take their heads homie, and leave them foney motherfuckers to dwell with all their dead homies"
These are the lyrics of a M.O.B. rider...anybody who's seen the video of Suge and Pac whooping on Orlando Anderson knows that the first of these two lines is not fiction.
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question for jmix are you going to try interview ygd top dog or tha realest ?
and you and 2pac forum are affilitated because they seem to interview the same ppl and ask the same questions ??
thanks
lol.. eh no not affiliated. Competitors, i guess youd say. i like to believe I dont ask the same questions. I dont focus on Songs like they do. as for top dog? perhaps.
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Topzilla lol ;D
interviewing tha fakest is a waste of time just like other interviews in the past as soon they start asking him questions hes quick to change the subject around and start talking bout other things
like sports and other rappers and to finish it off with how all rappers are really broke cause of record deals they signed and if ur lucky to get him to talk about himself everything is going to be bullshit with lies lol
i will love to hear a topzilla interview i hear he has unreleased dr dre songs that was meant for death row inside out that turned into the chronic 2000
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Topzilla lol ;D
interviewing tha fakest is a waste of time just like other interviews in the past as soon they start asking him questions hes quick to change the subject around and start talking bout other things
like sports and other rappers and to finish it off with how all rappers are really broke cause of record deals they signed and if ur lucky to get him to talk about himself everything is going to be bullshit with lies lol
i will love to hear a topzilla interview i hear he has unreleased dr dre songs that was meant for death row inside out that turned into the chronic 2000
Sounds like you check for all of Realest's interviews no? Almost like you can sit here and quote them word for word. Keep showing your female tendencies, you're nothing more than a European joke troll. A hurt fan boy. A clown in the rarest form.
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Back to the topic at hand, those Pac lyrics say a lot and I should have mentioned them earlier.
"Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB"
"Enemies who wanna C me what it B like"
"We claim Mob, M-O-B if you be specific, we control all cash from Atlantic to Pacific"
In the Death Row Uncut DVD when they're shooting the Toss it Up video, there's a part where Pac says "ayy blood" to Suge. He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder. He has MOB tattoo on his arm, wore an MOB ring, and never once did he claim MOB on records before he came to Death Row (an MOB affiliated organization).
Stop being blind folks.
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Topzilla lol ;D
interviewing tha fakest is a waste of time just like other interviews in the past as soon they start asking him questions hes quick to change the subject around and start talking bout other things
like sports and other rappers and to finish it off with how all rappers are really broke cause of record deals they signed and if ur lucky to get him to talk about himself everything is going to be bullshit with lies lol
i will love to hear a topzilla interview i hear he has unreleased dr dre songs that was meant for death row inside out that turned into the chronic 2000
Sounds like you check for all of Realest's interviews no? Almost like you can sit here and quote them word for word. Keep showing your female tendencies, you're nothing more than a European joke troll. A hurt fan boy. A clown in the rarest form.
you think u know so much do u bootlegger
just cause im on here doesn't make me European im from the states
and i knew you come to this thread just to defend tha fakest like you always do
keep defending your man keep showing your female tendencies
dont know why u even defend that fakeaveli
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Back to the topic at hand, those Pac lyrics say a lot and I should have mentioned them earlier.
"Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB"
"Enemies who wanna C me what it B like"
"We claim Mob, M-O-B if you be specific, we control all cash from Atlantic to Pacific"
In the Death Row Uncut DVD when they're shooting the Toss it Up video, there's a part where Pac says "ayy blood" to Suge. He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder. He has MOB tattoo on his arm, wore an MOB ring, and never once did he claim MOB on records before he came to Death Row (an MOB affiliated organization).
Stop being blind folks.
2pac was no blood he was a hiphop artist
it may have seemed that way open your eyes stupid
2pac was signed to deathrow and only cause of that he had to fit in
stories of 2pac being a real blood is as fake as tha fakest being a original artist
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Back to the topic at hand, those Pac lyrics say a lot and I should have mentioned them earlier.
"Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB"
"Enemies who wanna C me what it B like"
"We claim Mob, M-O-B if you be specific, we control all cash from Atlantic to Pacific"
In the Death Row Uncut DVD when they're shooting the Toss it Up video, there's a part where Pac says "ayy blood" to Suge. He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder. He has MOB tattoo on his arm, wore an MOB ring, and never once did he claim MOB on records before he came to Death Row (an MOB affiliated organization).
Stop being blind folks.
2pac was no blood he was a hiphop artist
it may have seemed that way open your eyes stupid
2pac was signed to deathrow and only cause of that he had to fit in
stories of 2pac being a real blood is as fake as tha fakest being a original artist
Don't act like you don't have Realest all in your iTunes quit lying to yourself. You'd bust a nut if you saw him in person. Somewhere along the lines you got dissed so now you feel it's your duty to act like you're not a fan boy,
Anyone who says "I'm from the states" is not American. Nobody refers to it here as "the states" lmao your cover is blown. I don't need to open my eyes I've heard it directly from Pac's people that he was a blood and he lost a lot of homies because of it. He also got schooled by Ice T because of it. Check your history. It's as obvious to anyone with a brain and that can critical think without being stuck in a bubble. Some obsessed fans have a hard time recognizing that their hero made a poor decision and started gang banging at age 24. Nothin you say or anyone else can change that.
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Back to the topic at hand, those Pac lyrics say a lot and I should have mentioned them earlier.
"Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB"
"Enemies who wanna C me what it B like"
"We claim Mob, M-O-B if you be specific, we control all cash from Atlantic to Pacific"
In the Death Row Uncut DVD when they're shooting the Toss it Up video, there's a part where Pac says "ayy blood" to Suge. He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder. He has MOB tattoo on his arm, wore an MOB ring, and never once did he claim MOB on records before he came to Death Row (an MOB affiliated organization).
Stop being blind folks.
2pac was no blood he was a hiphop artist
it may have seemed that way open your eyes stupid
2pac was signed to deathrow and only cause of that he had to fit in
stories of 2pac being a real blood is as fake as tha fakest being a original artist
Don't act like you don't have Realest all in your iTunes quit lying to yourself. You'd bust a nut if you saw him in person. Somewhere along the lines you got dissed so now you feel it's your duty to act like you're not a fan boy,
Anyone who says "I'm from the states" is not American. Nobody refers to it here as "the states" lmao your cover is blown. I don't need to open my eyes I've heard it directly from Pac's people that he was a blood and he lost a lot of homies because of it. He also got schooled by Ice T because of it. Check your history. It's as obvious to anyone with a brain and that can critical think without being stuck in a bubble. Some obsessed fans have a hard time recognizing that their hero made a poor decision and started gang banging at age 24. Nothin you say or anyone else can change that.
blah blah blah is all i hear ur full of shit just like tha fakest u think u know everything u know shit im done wasting my time with u
i served 8 years in the military i fought in 2 wars i been many places around the world i was born and raised in the Bronx i move every year or 2 years i live in Wisconsin for the past almost 2 years and im not from the states lol
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He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder.
Not really. There were a number of shootings, but only one, maybe two Compton Crips got dropped... definitely not "countless amounts." But the retaliation shootings following the Vegas incident actually yielded more Piru casualties than Crip casualties in September.
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Back to the topic at hand, those Pac lyrics say a lot and I should have mentioned them earlier.
"Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB"
"Enemies who wanna C me what it B like"
"We claim Mob, M-O-B if you be specific, we control all cash from Atlantic to Pacific"
In the Death Row Uncut DVD when they're shooting the Toss it Up video, there's a part where Pac says "ayy blood" to Suge. He died for the MOB, the MOB pirus killed countless amounts of crips in Compton the week of his murder. He has MOB tattoo on his arm, wore an MOB ring, and never once did he claim MOB on records before he came to Death Row (an MOB affiliated organization).
Stop being blind folks.
Yes sir! They judge Pac but what he did and said prior to DR but everything changed when he got there. I can't say I blame Pac, he needed the protection they could supply from the enemies he made in Ny.
It should also be noted that the Outlawz is Bloods to this day.
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Not the Outlawz, just Fatal pretty much.
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Young Noble to.
http://cdn.hiphopdx.org//images/news/outlawz-ashes.jpg
http://57thave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/The-Outlawz-499x333.jpg
http://www.goverland.it/images/perfect1.jpg
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Why, because he has on a red jacket? Fatal is SMM. I'm not aware of any of the other Outlawz claiming.
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Why, because he has on a red jacket? Fatal is SMM. I'm not aware of any of the other Outlawz claiming.
No, because he's wearing red standing next to a known blood on multiple occasions and the same hat you said bloods wear. For the record it's not just that cali set that rocks the variation of that hat, bloods all over do.
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Why, because he has on a red jacket? Fatal is SMM. I'm not aware of any of the other Outlawz claiming.
No, because he's wearing red standing next to a known blood on multiple occasions and the same hat you said bloods wear. For the record it's not just that cali set that rocks the variation of that hat, bloods all over do.
And none of that means he is a Blood or even affiliated with them, aside from being homies with Fatal for the past ~20 years... unless you can CONFIRM that Noble reps a Jersey Blood set. One pic is of them posing for a photo shoot session... it's not like they're purposely going to not match or have them wear blue or yellow something. And even in that one pic at some venue (with DJ Kay Slay on the left), they're not in the hood. But it's not like you're going to roll with Fatal and wearing purple or something.
And I didn't say that BLOODS wear that hat... I just said that Cedar Block Piru specifically wears that hat, and if you are wearing that in COMPTON (or pretty much any inner city in the LA area), it will be assumed that you are claiming CBP, since it's not like there are a lot of Cincinnati Reds fans here in Cali anyway. Hardly any Bloods or Pirus in LA not from CBP wear that since it's specific to the set, as there really aren't any other sets whose name starts with a C (except Cross Atlantic Piru but they don't make much noise and are actually in Mob Piru's crosshairs at the moment, but it seems like they're going at everyone right now)... which is why you will see someone like Jay Rock wearing the Washington hat (for Watts) or Pirus in general just wearing the Pirates or Phillies hats. And you will see people from TTP wearing Texas Tech hats, but no one else really, since it's not like they are a popular college team anyway.
When Game came out, he popularized the hat, and basically everyone from outside of CA who wanted to be/look down, whether they were really Bloods or not, started wearing it too, particularly Lil Wayne and Birdman. It's like when you look at Game's performances overseas, you have all sorts of fags waving red bandannas and throwing up Bs who are just trying to look tough and mimic what they see. But then some people just jock the style... it's not rare for some specific hat or team to just become popular to wear at a given time anyway. It's just the style though, one that started out from less-than-ideal origins. Just look at Crip Walking 10-15 years ago. Straight up Crip shit but WC made it popular by doing it all the time, but then everyone was trying to do it too. You even had Xzibit doing it at shows and on videos and even making songs about it ("Get Your Walk On") and then everyone thought he was Crippin since he was doing it... but he wasn't, it was just a fad that caught on to the point where you had websites dedicated to it with white boys doing it in their front yards and Chinese dudes doing while playing DDR.
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K Slay is Blood affiliated to.
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Some misinformation in the last two posts. Kendrick is not a Blood, but he grew up in the Lueders Park area. Big Syke and Mopreme were not in the Outlawz, even if they did take on dictator names... it's because everyone was supposed to contribute toward a bigger group Outlaw Immortalz (which was to include Syke and Mopreme, hence their "new" aliases), but it didn't work out that way, with Mopreme not hanging out with Death Row anymore since he got punked there (it's mentioned when he was interviewed for the Biggie & Tupac documentary, though he didn't go into much detail) and Syke eventually hanging out less and less with Death Row too, so the younger guys became the Outlawz, pretty much being a combination of Fatal & Felony (Kadafi) and Dramacydal, and being Pac's crew. Syke didn't get kicked to the curb, but like I said, he was around Death Row (and Pac) less and less as 1996 progressed.
When was "My Closest RoadDoggz" recorded? That song always sounded to me like it belonged very close to the end of Pac's life, but meybe it was earlier in his Death Row days, perhaps closer to AEOM?
It's interesting to see the distancing of Syke/Mopreme as the consequence of a Blood-dominated culture at DR. Never thought about it that way, but it makes sense.
Pac said in the VIBE interview: "I murdered Thug Life. Them niggas didn't act right. I murdered Thug Life and gave birth to the Outlawz." I wonder: what did the niggas in Thug Life do wrong that pissed off Pac? My guess: nothing at all, but Pac was paranoid, and probably thought they didn't represent him hard enough while he was in jail or something, and so Pac viewed that as disrespect. That would be typical of how Pac interpreted people's behavior. He said it himself that he was paranoid.
That quote was mostly directed at Stretch i think. Could've been something else too though but it happens all the time. It's life.
And i fully co-sign the post you made under this one. Post-death 2pac-stans dont seem to get it though. Still live in denial. Too fauned by the image he got after he died. Most probably cuz thats when most of them were kids, started to like rap or just like 2pac at that moment.
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K Slay is Blood affiliated to.
No he's not... what set is he affiliated with then? Can't just say Bloods.
Just because he was filmed going through a few Blood hoods in Cali doesn't mean that he's Blood affiliated. He was just there on the strength of being a real street nigga from NY but not on some Superman shit either, so there was mutual respect in that video. Plus he's an industry head, so they knew who he was, especially when he went to Nickerson Gardens and chopped it up with Jay Rock. But again, no real Blood affiliation other than knowing the guy who was taking him through the hoods. Especially not with an NY hat on, which is a hat that Neighborhood Crips wear (which is why in the video, one of the guys makes some remark about if you're real then you're respected "no matter what hat you got on").
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K Slay is Blood affiliated to.
No he's not... what set is he affiliated with then? Can't just say Bloods.
Just because he was filmed going through a few Blood hoods in Cali doesn't mean that he's Blood affiliated. He was just there on the strength of being a real street nigga from NY but not on some Superman shit either, so there was mutual respect in that video. Plus he's an industry head, so they knew who he was, especially when he went to Nickerson Gardens and chopped it up with Jay Rock. But again, no real Blood affiliation other than knowing the guy who was taking him through the hoods. Especially not with an NY hat on, which is a hat that Neighborhood Crips wear (which is why in the video, one of the guys makes some remark about if you're real then you're respected "no matter what hat you got on").
http://nypost.com/2012/09/15/brooklyn-hip-hop-fund-raiser-for-gang-boss-cancelled/
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And still, nothing there indicated that DJ Kay Slay is affiliated. It's possible to support gang members and not necessarily be affiliated with the gang. Just a reputable street head supporting another, giving respect where it's due. Crooked I (not affiliated, even though his dad was a Crip) supported Suge when he was locked up. So did some non-Bloods, like Keita Roc, who was putting in a lot of work for Suge despite repping different colors. A lot of non-BMF heads shout out Big Meech too out of respect. Jesse Jackson was at Tookie's funeral... but that doesn't make him a Crip.
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And still, nothing there indicated that DJ Kay Slay is affiliated. It's possible to support gang members and not necessarily be affiliated with the gang. Just a reputable street head supporting another, giving respect where it's due. Crooked I (not affiliated, even though his dad was a Crip) supported Suge when he was locked up. So did some non-Bloods, like Keita Roc, who was putting in a lot of work for Suge despite repping different colors. A lot of non-BMF heads shout out Big Meech too out of respect. Jesse Jackson was at Tookie's funeral... but that doesn't make him a Crip.
lol It's also possible that supporting gang members, wearing gang clothing, wearing gang colors, hanging out at gang sets etc. means you are affiliated. But you can go ahead and be this forums gang expert, I'm done with this topic and until I see or hear otherwise I'll just put two and two together and stand by what I have posted.
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...which was mostly just assumptions without any shreds of evidence anyway, so I'm not sure what two and two you were putting together.
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Good interview Jmix, thanks.
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How about these guys? Are they flamed up too?
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Ja_Rule_-_Blood_In_My_Eye_album_cover.jpg
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How about these guys? Are they flamed up too?
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Ja_Rule_-_Blood_In_My_Eye_album_cover.jpg
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/XZIBIT-LOL-Why-you-mad-thou.jpg)
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not 2 long ago some idiot sayed kendrick is a blood and ab-soul is a crip ;D
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Wasn't that you that said that aerroc champ
How's Tha realest"s nuts hanging they still in ya mouth
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Wasn't that you that said that aerroc champ
How's Tha realest"s nuts hanging they still in ya mouth
who the fuck is talking bout tha fakest here lol only you
btw r.i.p to tha fakest nobody cares dude like 40 years old and comes out with a album every 10 years like hes dr dre now get back on topic here
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Aerrock realest has a album out came out last month haven't you heard it ??
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nobody cares about the realest, quiet you
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Pacs dead who cares move on brodies
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Pacs dead who cares move on brodies
what music you been bumping lately, K Macc? anything good?
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Pacs dead who cares move on brodies
what music you been bumping lately, K Macc? anything good?
shit I'm patiently waiting on that new lamb that shits going to slap so hard bitches are going to swell up real spit brobro
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how come you didn't ask the REAL question here:
did she bone 2pac?
lmfao instead of sayin did 2pac bone her
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
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KENDRICK A GANG MEMBER? LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what's next? are you gunna tell ms Bieber is a rollin 20?
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
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Aerroc u heard the new realest single from my death bed?
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
always thought the syke song be yo self was about 2pac.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=434SGqLWvls
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Egima jokes aside any news on Tha realest any new projects etc?
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
he's not a gang banger
true
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Egima jokes aside any news on Tha realest any new projects etc?
you want the lastest on tha realest check out tha realest.com im sure you can find what u need there ask the mod or something :D
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
he's not a gang banger
true
yep +!
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
Did you really listen to the song or do you not understand complex hip hop? That verse was from the perspective of the brother of his homeboy that got shot who was from piru, not Kendrick saying he's from piru. If you gonna use a quote to make a argument, know ya shit. Just like the other verse is from the perspective of a hooker. Just because he said "even if I gotta fuck suck or swallow" are you gonna use that to say he on dick too? Lol.
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can not wait for tha reply :D
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Aerrocock why don't you Chek for me Arnt you a mod over their champ
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Aerrocock why don't you Chek for me Arnt you a mod over their champ
sure i am
u want some no news ask @Enigma
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
Did you really listen to the song or do you not understand complex hip hop? That verse was from the perspective of the brother of his homeboy that got shot who was from piru, not Kendrick saying he's from piru. If you gonna use a quote to make a argument, know ya shit. Just like the other verse is from the perspective of a hooker. Just because he said "even if I gotta fuck suck or swallow" are you gonna use that to say he on dick too? Lol.
lmao
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Quit being ignorant guys :D[/quote
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I want to know from you Arnt you realest admin ?
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I want to know from you Arnt you realest admin ?
lol NO I am NOT tha realest forum admin
if u really want to discuss tha realest make a thread of your own here or tha realest forum
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I want to ask you here champ , are you a blood?
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I want to ask you here champ , are you a blood?
wtf lol this has nothing to do with this topic
this is the last stupid question i answer from u
you want to ask more pm me
and no i am not no blood or crip i never believed in that nonsense i stand on my own 2 feet blood or crip what has it giving anybody
death a fucked up life broke i had many friends who joined different gangs in ny back in the day i was offered plenty of times but never joined i didn't see the point
people should just finish school then go to collage or join the military like i did
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You got any new realest tracks ?
And. Btw your Tha Realest"s no1 fan don't fake like your not
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How did this thread become about Tha Realest?
I'm a big fan of Tha Realest. His music is dope. I bought Witness Tha Realest and would gladly support new projects if there were any. Is there new music from Tha Realest on the way?
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
Did you really listen to the song or do you not understand complex hip hop? That verse was from the perspective of the brother of his homeboy that got shot who was from piru, not Kendrick saying he's from piru. If you gonna use a quote to make a argument, know ya shit. Just like the other verse is from the perspective of a hooker. Just because he said "even if I gotta fuck suck or swallow" are you gonna use that to say he on dick too? Lol.
Yes I listened to the song, and it goes back and forth between his statements and those of another perspective int he song. You're meaning to tell me that he's going to talk about Piru shit (homeboys or not) on his debut record, have bloods with him everywhere he goes, and rock red ragged suits and not be affiliated? I can pull up more lyrics if you'd like, but you'll probably try to spin them against me. Again, y'all are missing the whole point of my initial statement. You all don't know Kendrick, nor anyone close to Kendrick, so you can't comment on shit regarding how he grew up. He's been rolling with Leuder's Park since he was a kid.
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And aerock is with mob piru
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
Did you really listen to the song or do you not understand complex hip hop? That verse was from the perspective of the brother of his homeboy that got shot who was from piru, not Kendrick saying he's from piru. If you gonna use a quote to make a argument, know ya shit. Just like the other verse is from the perspective of a hooker. Just because he said "even if I gotta fuck suck or swallow" are you gonna use that to say he on dick too? Lol.
Yes I listened to the song, and it goes back and forth between his statements and those of another perspective int he song. You're meaning to tell me that he's going to talk about Piru shit (homeboys or not) on his debut record, have bloods with him everywhere he goes, and rock red ragged suits and not be affiliated? I can pull up more lyrics if you'd like, but you'll probably try to spin them against me. Again, y'all are missing the whole point of my initial statement. You all don't know Kendrick, nor anyone close to Kendrick, so you can't comment on shit regarding how he grew up. He's been rolling with Leuder's Park since he was a kid.
being affiliated and being a blood is two completely different things
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Also, keep in mind while the hood and the gang share the same since they're based out of the same place, claiming the hood doesn't always mean that you are claiming the gang (though in the eyes of rivals, they won't give a fuck anyway, it's the same to them). So Kendrick shouting out LUEDERS (not "Leuders") in songs obviously sounds like he's repping Lueders Park Piru, but he's just shouting out his neighborhood, since that's what the area is referred to. Similarly, there are also people who claim Kelly Park and will stand their ground, but they are not Kelly Park Compton Crips... just from the same hood, are friends with guys who were put on KPCC, etc. And the same thing applies to a lot of areas like that, though it's not necessarily the case when there are gang names that aren't based on the specific neighborhood name or street like Bounty Hunters, Swans, Mob, Tree Top, etc.
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Tupac was gang affiliated otherwise he wouldn't have felt so entitled to swing on a dude from a rival gang that had nothing to do with him. He died for MOB Piru best believe. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
But Big Syke of Thug Life & The Outlawz was a crip . .Most of Thug Life was crip . So explain that . 2pac was not MOB Piru .
What does one have to do with the other? Schoolboy Q is a crip, Kendrick Lamar is a blood, Jay Rock blood, Ab Soul a crip. Shit happens all the time. And who said Outlawz are crips?
He kicked Syke and Thug Life to the curb the last 6-7 months of his life, food for thought.
lol@kendrick is a blood
damm bootleggers think they know everything :D
Quit being ignorant guys. You act like you grew up with Kendrick. My boy Wack would be him hanging with the Leuders Park gang since he was a youngster. He's got bloods with him everywhere he goes, he goes on stage at BET awards wearing a red rag outfit, isn't hard to read.
Y'all clearly didn't listen to GKMC. "Dying of Thirst" and I quote "this Piru shit been in me forever, and forever imma push it, wherever whenever." Explain that line to me and then go "lol" at him repping blood. Maybe he's not a full on gang banger that put in work, but that's the side he rolls with. He's also smart enough to know he's crossed over so much that throwing out gang ties on every record wouldn't help him. That wasn't the point of my post earlier, my point was just cause Thug Life had crips didn't mean Pac didn't roll with the bloods.
Did you really listen to the song or do you not understand complex hip hop? That verse was from the perspective of the brother of his homeboy that got shot who was from piru, not Kendrick saying he's from piru. If you gonna use a quote to make a argument, know ya shit. Just like the other verse is from the perspective of a hooker. Just because he said "even if I gotta fuck suck or swallow" are you gonna use that to say he on dick too? Lol.
Yes I listened to the song, and it goes back and forth between his statements and those of another perspective int he song. You're meaning to tell me that he's going to talk about Piru shit (homeboys or not) on his debut record, have bloods with him everywhere he goes, and rock red ragged suits and not be affiliated? I can pull up more lyrics if you'd like, but you'll probably try to spin them against me. Again, y'all are missing the whole point of my initial statement. You all don't know Kendrick, nor anyone close to Kendrick, so you can't comment on shit regarding how he grew up. He's been rolling with Leuder's Park since he was a kid.
Good points.