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Title: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 05, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
i'm starting to think so
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Remedy360 on October 05, 2014, 08:26:50 PM
For all the credit he gets I guess it's going in that direction. He did put out three good albums but of course the whole thing has been blown out of the water. He was a great producer on top of his rapping so I give him credit for bringing the whole package to the table, but the act has definitely gotten old. One of my old roomates practically worshipped the guy and that made me hate dislike him even more lol
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 05, 2014, 08:34:04 PM
and he doesn't write his lyrics
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2014, 09:14:58 PM
Not at all. His first three albums are great. Wayne is hands down most overrated for everything he's done after Tha Carter III and the recognition he gets from mainstream fans since that time.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: doggfather on October 05, 2014, 11:47:18 PM
yes he is withpout a question.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 08:14:14 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 08:43:59 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Will_B on October 06, 2014, 09:02:01 AM
He's up there with Crooked I yes
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has

I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 10:45:17 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has

I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade


Rhymefest wrote Kanye's best music for him
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: AlerG on October 06, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has


I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade


Rhymefest wrote Kanye's best music for him

I was going to say that. Rhyme fest wrote the majority of 'College Dropout' and if you listen to fest's album 'blue collar' you can pick off the flow, cadence and pun styles pretty easily. However I think it was mutual and a decent trade because kanye supplied him some pretty serious productions efforts. Rhyme fest has a Grammy I believe for writing 'Jesus walks'.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has


I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade


Rhymefest wrote Kanye's best music for him

I was going to say that. Rhyme fest wrote the majority of 'College Dropout' and if you listen to fest's album 'blue collar' you can pick off the flow, cadence and pun styles pretty easily. However I think it was mutual and a decent trade because kanye supplied him some pretty serious productions efforts. Rhyme fest has a Grammy I believe for writing 'Jesus walks'.

but Fest never got to blow up from it despite being 100x more talented
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Remedy360 on October 06, 2014, 12:28:35 PM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has


I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade


Rhymefest wrote Kanye's best music for him

I was going to say that. Rhyme fest wrote the majority of 'College Dropout' and if you listen to fest's album 'blue collar' you can pick off the flow, cadence and pun styles pretty easily. However I think it was mutual and a decent trade because kanye supplied him some pretty serious productions efforts. Rhyme fest has a Grammy I believe for writing 'Jesus walks'.

but Fest never got to blow up from it despite being 100x more talented
Making it big in rap is about a hell of a lot more than your lyrics though. Of course I wish Rhymefest could've blown up instead but Kanye obviously did everything in his power to appeal to mainstream audiences.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Al Bundy on October 06, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I don't really read about Kanye's mic skills as much as his production skills so I don't think he's over rated. I don't think he's that great though.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

Pretty much the ONLY standard to judge someone being overrated too lol.

If nobody says he's the best, why does that make him overrated?
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
I'd say Wayne and Jay are more overrated

granted Jay-Z does have a few classics under his belt, Kanye at one point did have the compete package as far as being a producer/rapper but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

kanye doesnt write his rhymes though


never has


I can believe he wrote his first 2 albums, maybe started getting guidance from others and utilizing ideas/lyrics on his third album and on...

Eazy E wasn't a rapper either, Snoop hasn't written shit in a decade


Rhymefest wrote Kanye's best music for him

I was going to say that. Rhyme fest wrote the majority of 'College Dropout' and if you listen to fest's album 'blue collar' you can pick off the flow, cadence and pun styles pretty easily. However I think it was mutual and a decent trade because kanye supplied him some pretty serious productions efforts. Rhyme fest has a Grammy I believe for writing 'Jesus walks'.

but Fest never got to blow up from it despite being 100x more talented
Making it big in rap is about a hell of a lot more than your lyrics though. Of course I wish Rhymefest could've blown up instead but Kanye obviously did everything in his power to appeal to mainstream audiences.

Kanye had more mic presence and was more easily marketable than a dude like Rhymefest

what ever happened to him btw?
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: bouli77 on October 06, 2014, 02:15:43 PM
but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

Pretty much the ONLY standard to judge someone being overrated too lol.

If nobody says he's the best, why does that make him overrated?

well kanye is one of the few producers to be often labeled as a "genius", so I get why peeps think he's overrated but I don't, I think he really made a dent in the rap game production wise in the mid 00's and that he influenced it strongly to this day.

rapwise I always thought he was entertaining but sometimes he can get annoying too, but I like the way he raps.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
you guys must run into less Kanye stans than i do


lucky
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2014, 06:12:24 PM
you guys must run into less Kanye stans than i do


lucky
serious question. do y'all call sport fans stans ?
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
No, just optimistic T.I. fans who think this old, washed up rapper, doing collabs with Iggy Azalea, Usher & Chris Brown is going to produce a solid, let alone a "future classic album".

And for your information, people whose opinions are always ride or die for their team & are completely close minded are called "homers".
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
but I don't see anybody out there putting him in their top 5s like they do with the others I just mentioned

Pretty much the ONLY standard to judge someone being overrated too lol.

If nobody says he's the best, why does that make him overrated?

well kanye is one of the few producers to be often labeled as a "genius", so I get why peeps think he's overrated but I don't, I think he really made a dent in the rap game production wise in the mid 00's and that he influenced it strongly to this day.

rapwise I always thought he was entertaining but sometimes he can get annoying too, but I like the way he raps.

I've only heard of a few rappers/producers calling him a "genius" but I've never met anybody in real life say the same lol
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
No, just optimistic T.I. fans who think this old, washed up rapper, doing collabs with Iggy Azalea, Usher & Chris Brown is going to produce a solid, let alone a "future classic album".

And for your information, people whose opinions are always ride or die for their team & are completely close minded are called "homers".
cool. but watch yourself wit that sideways talk I don't want you sippin' turkey through a straw this thanksgiving.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 07:31:21 PM
did that happen to you last thanksgiving?
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2014, 07:36:09 PM
did that happen to you last thanksgiving?
that won't ever happen to me. maybe you but not me.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 07:42:02 PM
did that happen to you last thanksgiving?
that won't ever happen to me. maybe you but not me.

you suck something else on thanksgiving
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
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thats what Cham would do to you
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2014, 10:20:04 PM
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Stay in your lane, cuz.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Black Excellence on October 07, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
did that happen to you last thanksgiving?
that won't ever happen to me. maybe you but not me.

you suck something else on thanksgiving
your mother's titties while my finger was in her ass.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Black Excellence on October 07, 2014, 12:23:24 PM
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thats what Cham would do to you
I am 6'2, 200+lbs. I would destroy miley frail ass.
Title: Re: is Kanye the most over rated rapper of all time?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 07, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
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thats what Cham would do to you
I am 6'2, 200+lbs. I would destroy miley frail ass.

you forgot the fact you are also white, wigger.