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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: woof on March 06, 2015, 03:16:43 PM
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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/untitled/id974187289
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kendricklamar
18 hours ago
"Don't all dogs go to heaven? Don't Gangsta's boogie? Do owl shit stank? Lions, Tigers & Bears. But TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY. Its the American dream nigga...." - lil Homie.
1. Wesley's Theory
2. For Free? (Interlude)
3. King Kunta
4. Institutionalized
5. These Walls
6. U
7. Alright
8. For Sale? (Interlude)
9. Momma
10. Hood Politics
11. How Much A Dollar Cost
12. Complexion
13. The Blacker The Berry
14. You Ain't Gotta Lie (Momma Said)
15. I
16. Mortal Man
King Kunta (Snippet)
https://soundcloud.com/hiphopunited-1/kendrick-lamar-king-kunta-snippet
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Dubcc gonna be like "tracklist looks sick".
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correa gonna be like "tracklist looks sick".
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correa gonna be like "tracklist looks sick".
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
definitely wrong. you think kendrick/dre/aftermath/interscope would let some bullshit be released while other huge rappers drop their albums this year? nah, this is gonna be good, itll be competing with kanye, asap rocky, meek mill, action bronson's debut album, etc. nah i dont see kendrick coming out with some trash album.
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
definitely wrong. you think kendrick/dre/aftermath/interscope would let some bullshit be released while other huge rappers drop their albums this year? nah, this is gonna be good, itll be competing with kanye, asap rocky, meek mill, action bronson's debut album, etc. nah i dont see kendrick coming out with some trash album.
It depends how you define bullshit? They let Eminem release MMLP2 which was bulshit but it sold a fuckload of copies
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
definitely wrong. you think kendrick/dre/aftermath/interscope would let some bullshit be released while other huge rappers drop their albums this year? nah, this is gonna be good, itll be competing with kanye, asap rocky, meek mill, action bronson's debut album, etc. nah i dont see kendrick coming out with some trash album.
It depends how you define bullshit? They let Eminem release MMLP2 which was bulshit but it sold a fuckload of copies
im pretty sure em could drop whatever the fuck he wants on his own label
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Ok cool but we need a cd release of this
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Can't wait for this 8)
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Let's see how it turns out...
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if Kendrick was signed to death row this thread would of been 20 pages by now smh
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if Kendrick was signed to death row this thread would of been 20 pages by now smh
Wow. Are you crying as you type homie?
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if Kendrick was signed to death row this thread would of been 20 pages by now smh
Wow. Are you crying as you type homie?
lol no just facts
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
i HOPE that there will be some experimental stuff on the record...don't see anything wrong in trying new things
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Dudes should respect what an artist shares with us from their soul (but then this is a West forum..)
If u liked what he done already then expect some more on this album. It's still Kendrick
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
i HOPE that there will be some experimental stuff on the record...don't see anything wrong in trying new things
Yeah there's nothing wrong if it's well driven.
But good news is there's an actual cover/title, we just need to wait for it
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Let's see how it turns out...
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Can't wait for this 8)
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I have a bad feeling about this album... too many push backs, no album title? it means Kendrick had no concept in mind and I also think it will be some experimental music.
Hope i'm wrong
nahnah
be4 kendrick was back by a machine...the politics wasnt there to be notice..now he is...everybody sees it
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the weather is starting to get good out here cant wait to bump this album
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cool I updated my 1st post
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No tde features?!
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would be cool if Quik had somethin to do with that project since Kendrick wanted to work with him
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would be cool if Quik had somethin to do with that project since Kendrick wanted to work with him
Doesn't the track list look like that fake one that leaked before?
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would be cool if Quik had somethin to do with that project since Kendrick wanted to work with him
Doesn't the track list look like that fake one that leaked before?
lol i told you that he was in the lab with george 8)
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I Don't think that DJ Quik is involved in this project .
:'(
Anyway
Great Album coming!!
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Sample from Get NEkkid is on the album from what I know
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Sample from Get NEkkid is on the album from what I know
The sample is on..but..
Looking at Official Tracklist..maybe Quik produced "TheSE Walls" or "Alright" wherever
but i don't think so much
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Sample from Get NEkkid is on the album from what I know
The sample is on..but..
Looking at Official Tracklist..maybe Quik produced "TheSE Walls" or "Alright" wherever
but i don't think so much
i doubt theres quik production there, but even his more background work like mixing would be nice 8)
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For UK peeps: hard copy drops on the 23rd
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official track list im sure there will be extra tracks on other versions still no word on features or who produced the beats
1. Wesley's Theory
2. For Free? (Interlude)
3. King Kunta
4. Institutionalized
5. These Walls
6. U
7. Alright
8. For Sale? (Interlude)
9. Momma
10. Hood Politics
11. How Much A Dollar Cost
12. Complexion
13. The Blacker The Berry
14. You Ain't Gotta Lie (Momma Said)
15. I
16. Mortal Man
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King Kunta (Snippet)
https://soundcloud.com/hiphopunited-1/kendrick-lamar-king-kunta-snippet
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King Kunta (Snippet)
https://soundcloud.com/hiphopunited-1/kendrick-lamar-king-kunta-snippet
Sounds like Quik
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will dr. dre be on it as a producer?
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would love to hear the full version of this song on the album
https://www.youtube.com/v/thtPhtMcdlY
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would love to hear the full version of this song on the album
https://www.youtube.com/v/thtPhtMcdlY
Yeah plus then we could see who really produced it :D
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1. Wesley’s Theory (feat. George Clinton & Thundercat)
2. For Free? (Interlude)
3. King Kunta
4. Institutionalized (feat. Bilal, Anna Wise & Snoop Dogg)
5. These Walls (feat. Bilal, Anna Wise & Thundercat)
6. U
7. Alright
8. For Sale? (Interlude)
9. Momma
10. Hood Politics
11. How Much a Dollar Cost (feat. James Fauntleroy & Ronald Isley)
12. Complexion (A Zulu Love) (feat. Rapsody)
13. The Blacker the Berry
14. You Ain’t Gotta Lie (Momma Said)
15. I
16. Mortal Man
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It's a lock Snoop will have the worst verse on the album by far.
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got rapsody on the album. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Production credits:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=315940.0
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If you pimpin' this its Butterfly!!!
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It's out on iTunes now
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It's a lock Snoop will have the worst verse on the album by far.
the song is awefull on first listen.. Snoops role is minor in this song bilal is normally great.. that pitch the song is in... is.. not pleasent.
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Album as a concept seems dope.. songs alone is decent. - its as awhole it shines.
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Im 5 songs in and it's funky as hell, dope fuckin record so far :o
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Initial reaction: This is one of the best pieces of g funk in years... 8)
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
good lord, is this guy retarded
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So Dre's contribution was a couple of seconds talking over a phone on 'Wesley's Theory'.
Wanted to hear a full version of that track from the Beats commercial -
https://youtu.be/thtPhtMcdlY
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I like the original version of "i" better, otherwise great album. totally different than GKMC
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
good lord, is this guy retarded
lol retarded and 1 minded stuck in the 90s
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About to bump. Shit should be amazing.
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
LMFAO
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4 songs in and I am really digging it. At work so I don't have time to fully get into the songs. I will have a better opinion tonight when I put on the Beats and just listen to the album.
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
LMFAO
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Not sure how I feel about the album. This is going to take a few spins at least to fully digest the lyrics, content and concepts. There are no really stand out type tracks similar to GKMC. There is no Swimming Pool, Maad City, Backseat Freestyle type songs. But the album sounds cohesive all together.
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holy shit is this album dope as fuck. its refreshing hearing something new aside from the same ol trap sounding beats and shit. this shit is funky as fuck. king kunta and wesley's theory are my 2 favorite jams, after listening to the album 3 times 8) im feeling this newer version of i and that interview he has with pac at the end of mortal men, thats dope as fuck. k. dot reps the west coat hard as fuck. i cant wait until the end of the week when i can smoke to this. definitely sounds like a great album to smoke to. 8)
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holy shit is this album dope as fuck. its refreshing hearing something new aside from the same ol trap sounding beats and shit. this shit is funky as fuck. king kunta and wesley's theory are my 2 favorite jams, after listening to the album 3 times 8) im feeling this newer version of i and that interview he has with pac at the end of mortal men, thats dope as fuck. k. dot reps the west coat hard as fuck. i cant wait until the end of the week when i can smoke to this. definitely sounds like a great album to smoke to. 8)
u dont smoke weekdays?
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not as much as before, i stay busy as fuck and dont have time now a days.
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is 1st song produced by battlecat???????
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Two stand out tracks on first listen to me Blacker The Berry and i will have to give it another go latter to see if it grows on me
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if this album goes for dimond, nobody can say g-funk is dead.
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
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Great album imo and it really impressed me. This is one where you just press play and let it ride. It's not really a radio friendly album imo. People looking for that may be disappointed.
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
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is 1st song produced by battlecat???????
produced by flying lotus with thundercat all over the beat...i give kendrick big probs for puttin thundercat on the album..you can hear his influence on nearly every song 8)
also big ups for puttin' george, bilal, snoop & ron isley on it and of course fly-lo ...
also got a feelin' that quik had a helpin hand on some of the tracks, maybe he did some drums
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Horrible. WTF did i just listen to?
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Bullshit Album, Bullshit "MC" or "Rapper", it´s funny how he feels he´s the next 2pac, like the last song at the end, like nigga wtf are you dreamin??? like Dre Gay fucked you in the ass or you him like suge said; dre loves to get pouned and forget all about what i said, but mark this pussy, the Late great 2Pac Makaveli the Don, dissed you homo pop DREGAY and you got the nerv to put him on your shit and this whole conversation is so staged like this is not a real one, so how the fuck you´re lookin when you doin stuff like this??
fuck outta here who listens your music and fuck all your male groupies bitch nigga!
good lord, is this guy retarded
lol retarded and 1 minded stuck in the 90s
^^ have to agree with you on this one
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Any word on if a deluxe version (like through Best Buy) will come out with extra tracks? If not, I'll just get it now on iTunes.
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Horrible. WTF did i just listen to?
a album that wasn't bout money hoes and cars in every song and no trap beats
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How can anybody on a West Coast forum dislike this album?
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
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Any word on if a deluxe version (like through Best Buy) will come out with extra tracks? If not, I'll just get it now on iTunes.
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/tumblr_n70b77OJMy1rr1uero1_400.gif)
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/TDE.png)
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
im happy hes still using his in house producers
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
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Another nail in the coffin of good ole' rap music..FuhQ this half rap / half experimental bullshit.
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How can anybody on a West Coast forum dislike this album?
1. cause bout 80% of the members here dont even live in the united states so they know no better
2. k dot didn't signed with death row
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
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Another nail in the coffin of good ole' rap music..FuhQ this half rap / half experimental bullshit.
you should put a nail in your forehead for not seeing the bigger picture
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats.
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
im happy hes still using his in house producers
One of the reasons Dre signed Kendrick is because he was diggin the in-house production of Section .80 so why change that & force Dre's bests on there? Why try to hold a person's hand & walk them when they full speed running on their own?
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats.
lol i don't think they had a gun to Kendricks head and told him pick their beats
that's the direction he was going with the album Kendrick picked those beats
remember Kendrick used these types of beats in the past so its nothing new only thing this time time its a whole album of beats like this
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The bigger pic is rap being phased out by queers like Kendrick..This is barely rap.
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The bigger pic is rap being phased out by queers like Kendrick..This is barely rap.
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The bigger pic is rap being phased out by queers like Kendrick..This is barely rap.
so what or who is to you
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Any word on if a deluxe version (like through Best Buy) will come out with extra tracks? If not, I'll just get it now on iTunes.
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/tumblr_n70b77OJMy1rr1uero1_400.gif)
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/TDE.png)
Any idea what this might be then?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/to-pimp-a-butterfly-deluxe-edition-cd/4380107.p?id=3352067&skuId=4380107
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This is amazing!! lots of Black Pantherism on this album
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Any word on if a deluxe version (like through Best Buy) will come out with extra tracks? If not, I'll just get it now on iTunes.
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/tumblr_n70b77OJMy1rr1uero1_400.gif)
(http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/03/TDE.png)
Any idea what this might be then?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/to-pimp-a-butterfly-deluxe-edition-cd/4380107.p?id=3352067&skuId=4380107
http://bluntiq.com/2015/03/14/there-will-be-no-deluxe-edition-of-to-pimp-a-butterfly-2/
i wouldn't mind a deluxe version
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really good decision to use so much life instruments. simply great portion of real music
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holy shit is this album dope as fuck. its refreshing hearing something new aside from the same ol trap sounding beats and shit. this shit is funky as fuck. king kunta and wesley's theory are my 2 favorite jams, after listening to the album 3 times 8) im feeling this newer version of i and that interview he has with pac at the end of mortal men, thats dope as fuck. k. dot reps the west coat hard as fuck. i cant wait until the end of the week when i can smoke to this. definitely sounds like a great album to smoke to. 8)
co-sign
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I'm only 23 , and I fux with new school and classic rap..this is straight garbage. K Dot has feminine ways. I'd rather listen to Skyzoo over this clown. K Dot leads the sissy-fication moveme.nt of rap. Eazy is turning in his grave .
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Skyzoo, the guy best known for getting mopped by Jin on BET?
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I'm only 23 , and I fux with new school and classic rap..this is straight garbage. K Dot has feminine ways. I'd rather listen to Skyzoo over this clown. K Dot leads the sissy-fication moveme.nt of rap. Eazy is turning in his grave .
yep being 23 explains it all you were born yesterday you know nothing but think you know all
go back to listening to money hoes and cars in every song
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i wouldn't mind a deluxe version
Call me crazy, but I think there will be.
It's weird enough that a week ago, we didn't have a track list, let alone an album title. Then we get the whole thing more than a week early on iTunes (I don't see how that was an accident), so of course people will buy it. Personally I thought about getting it because a small part of me was thinking, what if it was a mistake and they take it down.
But the fact that a deluxe edition is already showing up on Best Buy, the very place I was assuming it would be available from (likely exclusively), it might end up on shelves anyway... might be an incentive for the hardcore fans to get both, or maybe just pick up the additional songs on iTunes.
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they lyin left n right ..... the reason they sayin there's no delux is so peeps pick this one up
and bigger fans are forced to get the delux too when it drops. simple science.
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I'm only 23 , and I fux with new school and classic rap..this is straight garbage. K Dot has feminine ways. I'd rather listen to Skyzoo over this clown. K Dot leads the sissy-fication moveme.nt of rap. Eazy is turning in his grave .
smfh im 24, you dumb as fuck right now. skyzoo?? fuck outta, youve lost whatever credibility you had here pussy boy.
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half experimental bullshit.
You clearly missed an entire generation of Hip Hop lol.
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Not sure how I feel about the album. This is going to take a few spins at least to fully digest the lyrics, content and concepts. There are no really stand out type tracks similar to GKMC. There is no Swimming Pool, Maad City, Backseat Freestyle type songs. But the album sounds cohesive all together.
This. Both albums are great musically but GKMC was wrapped up and packaged in a way that had overall message and meaning. And it was laced with some of the best west coast music it years. This one has less strength in ideas and originally , and is dressed up in a more complex soundscape like Kanye does. But not to the extent its carrying trash lyrics and noise like in Yeys case
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You guys trippin over a guy isnt amazed at this album.. it isnt a classic.. its lucky to 3/5 stars.. The lyrics hold up his at times corny gay flow.
Kendrik can be damn right amazing... sometimes it goes bad and becomes hella gay as when eminems flow at times.
Its a decent album, no more no less. - And thats how i feel about it.
But you never know on 10 listens later i might think different.. but as now.
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For UK folks:
This hit the stores early. I saw it today in HMV for Ł9.99
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats.
Delicate? Beats?
So that's what makes me now?
Man, I don't give a fuck about no beat
Okay, I have gave this album two spins. No doubt it's a good album. I can get to different levels of this, so I will...
If you listen to Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City, and you listen to it from beginning to end, then this album only makes more sense. As a concept album, this album follows Kendrick after he left the streets and became King Kendrick. The album title is To Pimp a Butterfly, and it was stated over and over that Butterfly is a metaphor for talent. This album is him pimping his talent for profit to get out, but then dealing with the depression of survivor's guilt, and at the same time wanting to uplift his community all while being selfish and getting out the community. For reals, this album is DENSE. There is so much in it, and so much to digest that even after two complete listens, I still didn't catch 50% of what I think I heard. Content wise, this album is loaded on content. And the order of the songs is important, because out of order this album would just be all over the place. Like it makes sense to have Blacker the Berry after Complexion (A Zulu Love). Also, the some tracks are really deep, but is coded with basic hood talk, like Hood Politics. Basically using terms that we said as kids, and then mixing it up with the title of a Jesse Ventura book, Kendrick swings from hood to educated language throughout the whole song. And he does it effortlessly. He calls Lucifer Lucy throughout the album. Talks about wanting to kill himself if some songs. This album is so loaded.
So with that said, the album flows, it is deep, lyrical, lots of content, not only has replay value, it NEEDS to be replayed just to catch everything. Now to the music.
A long time ago I wrote a lot on how you can't catch people with lyrics if you have bad beats. At the time, I was talking about these underground cats who always wondered why they have so much skill yet no one is listening to them. Since the Love Below, and basically all of Kanye West post-Dropout, these beats don't seem so experimental or even bad. There is a lot more Jazz in the music, a hint of G-Funk and it gives off an experimental vibe that's similar to OutKast or early Kanye West. I can't explain it too well, other than some songs might be drowned out by trumpets. One track, I forgot the name, did have a hint of those old G-Funk whistles. It was very refreshing. LOL. The first 3-4 songs are very funky as well, and I really was just enjoying the hell out of them. Overall, right now I can't pick out a true single's track, maybe King Kunta. But this album was not made to have radio tracks. I felt the same way about Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City too, but Swimming Pools and Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe took off. But any track that makes the radio will probably need to be redone to fit radio sound. But that's not unheard of, and it's not even unheard of for Kendrick. I can see remixes being big on the radio.
My overall feeling on this album, I like it. I also own all of Kanye's albums, and OutKast. To me, this is not alternative hip-hop, or experimental hip-hop, this style has been out for at least 10 years. It's different for the westcoast, but it very much fits in hip-hop over the last 10 years. I almost see this as Kendrick trying for his own Me Against the World. At the time, 2Pac was doing Thug Life, his sound was really raw and aggressive, and then he put out Me Against the World which was different than what he did before. It was almost like he made a whole album of Keep Your Head Up. This feels like Kendrick making a whole album that was meant to uplift, deal with issues and be something people talk about for a long time. It captures the times we are in, it has lots of Black Lives Matters overtones, it sounds like hip-hop today, it is very much the soundtrack of right now. I'd say the one thing that is inconsistent is that the lyrics spit over the music are very raw and real, were as the music don't fit the themes of the lyrics. But I think that's done on purpose. I heard him spit some of those lyrics over a few Biggie's beats and it sounded so raw. But over this album it sounds more thought provoking.
So yeah, that's a quick reaction to this album. Stand out tracks, of course Blacker the Berry, How Much Does a Dollar Cost and Hood Politics. Also U is very good and I think These Walls could be a single if worked out right. I'll give this album a 4 out of 5. It's a masterpiece, but it's not quite a classic. At least not yet. Unlike many rap albums, in order to tell if this album is a classic, you have to see the way people interact with it and digest it. Good Kid was very much an album of Kendrick tell you his life, this album was meant to be interacted with and process. Very different, and so to give it instant classic status is very premature.
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dope and cohesive album although not as many standouts as his last one...going to have to test its replay value though
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this album is pure west coast.. Kdot dropped another classic album
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anybody said g-funk is dead?
then what the fuck are those?
wesley's theory
king kunta
these walls
hood politics
how much a dollar cost
you ain't gotta lie (momma said)
???
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G-Funk is dead
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anybody said g-funk is dead?
then what the fuck are those?
wesley's theory
king kunta
these walls
hood politics
how much a dollar cost
you ain't gotta lie (momma said)
???
lol i wouldn't call it g-funk...but it's really funky
fuck these categories
free your mind and your ass will follow 8)
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anybody said g-funk is dead?
then what the fuck are those?
wesley's theory
king kunta
these walls
hood politics
how much a dollar cost
you ain't gotta lie (momma said)
???
fuck these categories
free your mind and your ass will follow 8)
Fixed, Signed, Dated, #Stamped, Sealed, and Delivered
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I'm only 23 , and I fux with new school and classic rap..this is straight garbage. K Dot has feminine ways. I'd rather listen to Skyzoo over this clown. K Dot leads the sissy-fication moveme.nt of rap. Eazy is turning in his grave .
U
smfh im 24, you dumb as fuck right now. skyzoo?? fuck outta, youve lost whatever credibility you had here pussy boy.
You Queen K Dot cock rider ...Go hop on your skateboard and listen to Pharrell U mark ass buster..Rap music has taken a wrong turn and your hero K Dot is at the steering wheel u cum dumpster.Go put on your skin tight jeans to impress your boyfriend.
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bg-funk
havent heard it yet, but it seems overdone to me based on what im gathering...guna cop it when it hits shelves and drop an honest opinion. outside of this forum, it's bein received to much harsher criticism than GKMC.
also, @mdogg "masterpiece" and "classic" are pretty much interchangeable terms.
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Any1 Know If There's To Be A Deluxe Version? I'm Holding Off On Buying It Just In Case There's A Version With Extras.
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Any1 Know If There's To Be A Deluxe Version? I'm Holding Off On Buying It Just In Case There's A Version With Extras.
I think the extras are on some "Gz Up Hoez Down"/"Tha Next Episode" shit. Could be wrong tho, different times
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Any1 Know If There's To Be A Deluxe Version? I'm Holding Off On Buying It Just In Case There's A Version With Extras.
HE ALREADY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE WONT BE A DELUXE....BUT I THINK IT'S FOR THE REASON U JUST MENTIONED. CUZ HE WANTS PEEPS TO COP THIS VERSION. BEST BUY HAS A DELUXE VERSION LISTED THO, SO I BET THERE WILL BE.
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it's bein received to much harsher criticism than GKMC.
Because kids between the ages of 14-24 (for the most part & mostly white) want to hear...
https://www.youtube.com/v/EZW7et3tPuQ or https://www.youtube.com/v/JdcNoGmt7Ws
instead of more soulful, story telling, real dope West Coast, funky cuts that is true to who he is.
Basically the idea behind the album, that he keeps repeating at the end of each song (to me anyway) is that rappers are misusing this opportunity of having a grand stage of everyone listening to them & what message they send. You got niggas with huge fanbases not being true to themselves or the hood they grew up in. In a sense, he trolled rap. Instead of giving a majority of his fans what they wanted; he knew the Hip Hop community would listen to what he dropped no matter what it was. & he used that opportunity to make the kind of music he wanted to.
I think this album will be viewed as a real masterpiece a decade or so from now. It's funny though, they aren't all classic songs, but together they all fit so perfectly to make the full 16 song album incredible. But that's so refreshing opposed to other artists dropping 15-16 song albums with 3-4-5 dope ass songs & 10 that you'll listen to a handful of times. You gotta bump this from start to finish to really feel the greatness.
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This album is next level! :o
Been playin it non-stop, and so far I gotta say I'm enjoying it even more than GKMC.
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Listened to the album again today in its entirety (second listen) and I've gotta say, this is an incredible body of work he put together. It's very hard to describe. The feelings and emotions are all over the place on it. You really have to listen to it start to finish to appreciate the album as a whole. But definitely a one of a kind album. Props to K Dot.
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You really have to listen to it start to finish to appreciate the album as a whole. But definitely a one of a kind album. Props to K Dot.
That's what I'm saying. You can't pick & choose individual songs & call them all classics. But as part of the journey he takes you on, they're mandatory.
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Terrace Martin is all over that project. i think hes the main one responsible for that "jazzy feel" to it. fuck this "singles era" we livin in, album flows perfectly from beginning to end 8)
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Great Sound, great work, props !
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
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bg-funk
havent heard it yet, but it seems overdone to me based on what im gathering...guna cop it when it hits shelves and drop an honest opinion. outside of this forum, it's bein received to much harsher criticism than GKMC.
also, @mdogg "masterpiece" and "classic" are pretty much interchangeable terms.
Not really. Masterpiece is a great piece of art, classic is something everyone agrees influenced the culture. At least to me, that is how I'm using it. So listening to TPAB, I can hear it's an artistic masterpiece, but it needs to stand the test of time before it's called a classic. It's not an instant classic. People have to digest it first. But it's getting better reviews as people listen to it more. First day people were calling it trash, second day lots of good reviews with lots of insight.
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Reading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
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the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there :D
no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
fuck dre he never needed him
LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats.
Delicate? Beats?
So that's what makes me now?
Man, I don't give a fuck about no beat
Okay, I have gave this album two spins. No doubt it's a good album. I can get to different levels of this, so I will...
If you listen to Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City, and you listen to it from beginning to end, then this album only makes more sense. As a concept album, this album follows Kendrick after he left the streets and became King Kendrick. The album title is To Pimp a Butterfly, and it was stated over and over that Butterfly is a metaphor for talent. This album is him pimping his talent for profit to get out, but then dealing with the depression of survivor's guilt, and at the same time wanting to uplift his community all while being selfish and getting out the community. For reals, this album is DENSE. There is so much in it, and so much to digest that even after two complete listens, I still didn't catch 50% of what I think I heard. Content wise, this album is loaded on content. And the order of the songs is important, because out of order this album would just be all over the place. Like it makes sense to have Blacker the Berry after Complexion (A Zulu Love). Also, the some tracks are really deep, but is coded with basic hood talk, like Hood Politics. Basically using terms that we said as kids, and then mixing it up with the title of a Jesse Ventura book, Kendrick swings from hood to educated language throughout the whole song. And he does it effortlessly. He calls Lucifer Lucy throughout the album. Talks about wanting to kill himself if some songs. This album is so loaded.
So with that said, the album flows, it is deep, lyrical, lots of content, not only has replay value, it NEEDS to be replayed just to catch everything. Now to the music.
A long time ago I wrote a lot on how you can't catch people with lyrics if you have bad beats. At the time, I was talking about these underground cats who always wondered why they have so much skill yet no one is listening to them. Since the Love Below, and basically all of Kanye West post-Dropout, these beats don't seem so experimental or even bad. There is a lot more Jazz in the music, a hint of G-Funk and it gives off an experimental vibe that's similar to OutKast or early Kanye West. I can't explain it too well, other than some songs might be drowned out by trumpets. One track, I forgot the name, did have a hint of those old G-Funk whistles. It was very refreshing. LOL. The first 3-4 songs are very funky as well, and I really was just enjoying the hell out of them. Overall, right now I can't pick out a true single's track, maybe King Kunta. But this album was not made to have radio tracks. I felt the same way about Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City too, but Swimming Pools and Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe took off. But any track that makes the radio will probably need to be redone to fit radio sound. But that's not unheard of, and it's not even unheard of for Kendrick. I can see remixes being big on the radio.
My overall feeling on this album, I like it. I also own all of Kanye's albums, and OutKast. To me, this is not alternative hip-hop, or experimental hip-hop, this style has been out for at least 10 years. It's different for the westcoast, but it very much fits in hip-hop over the last 10 years. I almost see this as Kendrick trying for his own Me Against the World. At the time, 2Pac was doing Thug Life, his sound was really raw and aggressive, and then he put out Me Against the World which was different than what he did before. It was almost like he made a whole album of Keep Your Head Up. This feels like Kendrick making a whole album that was meant to uplift, deal with issues and be something people talk about for a long time. It captures the times we are in, it has lots of Black Lives Matters overtones, it sounds like hip-hop today, it is very much the soundtrack of right now. I'd say the one thing that is inconsistent is that the lyrics spit over the music are very raw and real, were as the music don't fit the themes of the lyrics. But I think that's done on purpose. I heard him spit some of those lyrics over a few Biggie's beats and it sounded so raw. But over this album it sounds more thought provoking.
So yeah, that's a quick reaction to this album. Stand out tracks, of course Blacker the Berry, How Much Does a Dollar Cost and Hood Politics. Also U is very good and I think These Walls could be a single if worked out right. I'll give this album a 4 out of 5. It's a masterpiece, but it's not quite a classic. At least not yet. Unlike many rap albums, in order to tell if this album is a classic, you have to see the way people interact with it and digest it. Good Kid was very much an album of Kendrick tell you his life, this album was meant to be interacted with and process. Very different, and so to give it instant classic status is very premature.
great review, ty for taking the time to write it.
i'd add that i think this album flows and is more cohesive than his first. whereas the first had a couple joints that maybe didn't fit exactly perfectly in, production wise, this one flows better to me.
just based on one listen. i'm sure my opinion will continue to evolve over time
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Reading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
To be fair, Illmatic was 20 years ago. In the 90's, if you told me I had to respect something in the 70's, I'd be tripping because times have changed. Nas was speaking on stuff in the streets in the early 90's, which was when the US was at it's peak of crime rate. Kendrick is speaking on different stuff because now times have changed. It took me forever to accept this, but when I talk about my story, kids today who even grew up in the same city as me can't relate. That's like on some crazy, I've listened to too much rap music shit. Kids today trip out, yet these muthaphukkaz are from Fontana, Rialto and shit. They think that shit only stays San Bernardino. But yeah, kids are different now. So to me, I'm old now, I'm in my early 30's, and I moved out and on. Kids are going to relate to what they relate to. But I think Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City will be this generations Illmatic. That shit is a classic album, and it's some street stories.
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This album clearly has influences of :
Mr. George Clinton ( Parliament-Funkdelic)
Mr. Quincy Jones and Mr. Miles Davis ( Jazz themes )
Mr. Ronald Isley ..The Isleys..who have feat. on the album..
Mr. Curtis Mayfield
WATTS PROPHETS.
and Mr. Quik
Of course 2Pac poetry.
Classic!!!!!!!!!!
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Can't get enough of this.
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Can't get enough of this.
It's so deep that every time I listen to it, I hear something new.
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Can't get enough of this.
the 1st time i heard it i knew i was going to have listen to this several times to really hear everything
the album gets better every listen reply value will be high on this
what i like more is hardly no features and hardly no big mainstream name producers i wouldn't mind tde features
no radio type songs and hes not talking bout money cars and bitches in every song
who would even try to put out a album full of beats like this today?
who in hiphop today can pull that right there separates the shit rappers and good ones
*all other rappers back to the drawing board
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Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
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Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
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Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
If it's a true classic or masterpiece you could play it every day forever and it wouldn't get old
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Reading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
tpab is for those people who think they're smart but is still on some basic shit. atysyc >>>>>
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Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
If it's a true classic or masterpiece you could play it every day forever and it wouldn't get old
this will be one of those albums trust me...at least for me
it's way better than gkmc for me. it got more soul and it is way more complex...and i loved gkmc too.
i guess a lot of "hiphop-fans" don't like that some of the songs don't even got a "beat" in the traditional sense, but live band music instead..people like the roots, lauryn hill etc. already did that and that wasn't for everyone neither. if you look at the credits, there's pretty much a ensemble of musicians all over the album like thundercat, bilal, lalah hathatway, terrace martin etc. you can definitely hear it, which makes it even more organic and give you the sound of a real band.
personally i'm more than happy with this album
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Reading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
tpab is for those people who think they're smart but is still on some basic shit. atysyc >>>>>
ti is on some basic shit and with a shit load of features on his albums typical south rapper
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Reading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
tpab is for those people who think they're smart but is still on some basic shit. atysyc >>>>>
ti is on some basic shit and with a shit load of features on his albums typical south rapper
t.i.'s album exceeded and met my expectations while you pseudo intellectuals are forcin' yourselves to like kendrick's new weedplate by listenin' over and over again. fuck that weirdo shit.
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Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
gkmc doesnt even belong with the chronic and illmatic....it looks funny being listed next to em.
its like saying michael jordan, deron williams, kobe bryant
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Finally finished the second listen and I hate to say it, but this album sounds more like a Broadway play than a rap album. I love a couple of the tracks including TBTB, King Kunta and Wesley's Theory, but it is hardly a masterpiece. The production overall is sloppy and sounds cheap. I'm surprised that with the resources he has at his disposal, he can't afford to get more than a few decent beats. In my opinion, instead of trying to copy or recreate the Quik, Raphael Saadiq sound, he would have done better to just hire them and have them produce the album. Sonically it would have been a huge upgrade. Also surprised to see that Ali mixed the songs. His mixes were much better on GKMC, mixes on this album sound sloppy and rushed. Which is a shame, because I thought Ali did an amazing job on GKMC. Overall not a terrible album, but I was expecting more.
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forget the west coast, this album is way bigger than that! takes me back to the early 90s when de la souil and a tribe called quest was poppin
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and about this sounding like a broadway play I think its amazing hiphop is steppin up
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Sonically
this is an important factor that people are forgettin
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and about this sounding like a broadway play I think its amazing hiphop is steppin up
Or stepping down, depends on your viewpoint.
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This ain't hip hop. There isnt a single beat on there that says to me hip hop.
This is a West Coast born and raised, but neo soul infused, contemporary rap album
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Everyone just ignore Will from here on out. He's either trolling or just has no ear for music.
Honestly believe in a decade, people will group this album with 90's classics. Only time will tell.
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Everyone just ignore Will from here on out. He's either trolling or just has no ear for music.
Honestly believe in a decade, people will group this album with 90's classics. Only time will tell.
This is more like the drop from Doggystyle to Doggfather (but not quite as steep)
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This ain't hip hop. There isnt a single beat on there that says to me hip hop.
This is a West Coast born and raised, but neo soul infused, contemporary rap album
^^ so what is your definition of a "hip hop beat"? "wesley's theory", "king kunta" are traditional westcoast hip hop beats to me...."alright" is no hip hop? "the blacker the berry" no hip hop?
nevertheless i enjoy the neo soul, funk & jazz infusion on this album, if you don't like these genres then it might not be the right album for you.
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This ain't hip hop. There isnt a single beat on there that says to me hip hop.
This is a West Coast born and raised, but neo soul infused, contemporary rap album
^^ so what is your definition of a "hip hop beat"? "wesley's theory", "king kunta" are traditional westcoast hip hop beats to me...."alright" is no hip hop? "the blacker the berry" no hip hop?
nevertheless i enjoy the neo soul, funk & jazz infusion on this album, if you don't like these genres then it might not be the right album for you.
Out of every musical genre imo there's nothing worse than bad jazz. Kendrick took all his (good) ideas from his previous music and stirred it in a big pot filled with bad jazz and neo soul and poured out TPAB. He went full Kanye on this one
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This ain't hip hop. There isnt a single beat on there that says to me hip hop.
This is a West Coast born and raised, but neo soul infused, contemporary rap album
^^ so what is your definition of a "hip hop beat"? "wesley's theory", "king kunta" are traditional westcoast hip hop beats to me...."alright" is no hip hop? "the blacker the berry" no hip hop?
nevertheless i enjoy the neo soul, funk & jazz infusion on this album, if you don't like these genres then it might not be the right album for you.
Out of every musical genre imo there's nothing worse than bad jazz. Kendrick took all his (good) ideas from his previous music and stirred it in a big pot filled with bad jazz and neo soul and poured out TPAB. He went full Kanye on this one
bad jazz? sorry, but i don't get how the jazz influences on tpab could be bad jazz...it sounds more like coltrane or miles davis to me. if you don't like it...cool, but don't call it bad.
i don't get the comparison with kanye...kendrick did the things that kanye TRIED to do but never achieved at most
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Meaning it's jazz done badly.
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I'm not a fan but he is talented. I tried to listen to good kid mad city but the production was so bad that i couldn't give it more than two listens. Just by skimming through the album, this sounds more like something i would enjoy.
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great review, ty for taking the time to write it.
i'd add that i think this album flows and is more cohesive than his first. whereas the first had a couple joints that maybe didn't fit exactly perfectly in, production wise, this one flows better to me.
just based on one listen. i'm sure my opinion will continue to evolve over time
Thanks man, I didn't see this. Yeah, I have replayed it quite a bit now. When I first listened to it, it seemed to be on some OutKast shit with a pro-black message, the more I listen to it is seems to be on some more modern hip-hop and his internal struggle trying to be something positive. This album evolves every time you hear it. I am not sure it will considered a classic like Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City, but it will be the album that helps Kendrick prove he's more than just a one album guy and launch him to top rapper of his era status.
I'm not a fan but he is talented. I tried to listen to good kid mad city but the production was so bad that i couldn't give it more than two listens. Just by skimming through the album, this sounds more like something i would enjoy.
So you are more of a modern hip-hop fan, and I can respect that. I think GKMC was better production wise, but I'm an old head. I know that more modern fans loved this album, and I hear many younger fans talk about the improved production for this album. I remember when OutKast had the Love Below 12 years ago, this sound was considered experimental, and then Kanye really took that experimental sound and made it his own starting with Late Registration. Now one review from a respected young critic called this "pure hip-hop." And Lyrically I'll agree, but he was talking the whole thing from production and to whole nine. So I am starting to realize that this is pure modern hip-hop. What I remember being experimental is now the norm. And that's not a bad thing at all. I always knew hip-hop would have to eventually merge with many different styles of music, and it has. This album I think will be a measuring stick to other rappers now. Young fans seem to really, really like this album, and some older heads are calling it trash. I'm kind of excited to see where hip-hop as a whole goes after this.
This ain't hip hop. There isnt a single beat on there that says to me hip hop.
This is a West Coast born and raised, but neo soul infused, contemporary rap album
Yeah, I actually like Will, but right now he's just trolling because people troll his TI threads. He's more of a southern rap fan, so something like this is a bit over his head. That's okay. Cham, interesting we see eye to eye on this album. But then again, good music is good music.
Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards :D
Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
gkmc doesnt even belong with the chronic and illmatic....it looks funny being listed next to em.
its like saying michael jordan, deron williams, kobe bryant
Really? Because I have no problems listing GKMC as a classic. When I heard it, I was like, this shit is an instant classic. More of a modern classic really, albums since the whole Jay-Z/Nas beef. Since then it's College Dropout, Eminem Show, Be, Carter III, Take Care. Those are albums I consider classic for this era, but only a few rise to level of all-time classic status. And that's College Dropout, Be, Eminem Show, and Good Kid M.A.A.D. City.
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I've literally never made a thread about TI m-dawgy
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I'm not a fan but he is talented. I tried to listen to good kid mad city but the production was so bad that i couldn't give it more than two listens. Just by skimming through the album, this sounds more like something i would enjoy.
This. I never succeed in listenin GKMC, which was another rap album like many others with, perhaps, cohesive but bad productions. This one is actually good with some dope joints, even if i'm not a Kendrick Lamar fan ;)
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I've literally never made a thread about TI m-dawgy
Wait... hum... was that someone else then that filled up my inbox about me locking up that thread for the trolling? Damn, so long ago.
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Album is better than his last for sure! I think K-Dot has started a new West-Coast genre called "hipster funk"...
Good album best of 2015 so far.
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Everyone just ignore Will from here on out. He's either trolling or just has no ear for music.
Honestly believe in a decade, people will group this album with 90's classics. Only time will tell.
This is more like the drop from Doggystyle to Doggfather (but not quite as steep)
Trying to fit in with the trolls to prevent getting trolled on is just not for you, guy.
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Everyone just ignore Will from here on out. He's either trolling or just has no ear for music.
Honestly believe in a decade, people will group this album with 90's classics. Only time will tell.
This is more like the drop from Doggystyle to Doggfather (but not quite as steep)
Trying to fit in with the trolls to prevent getting trolled on is just not for you, guy.
Fit in with who??
If you've got a counter argument this is the place to speak up
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My entire argument is you have had a negative opinion on Kendrick for the last five years. So in other words, you don't have an opinion worth recognizing.
Plus, you tryna fit in. I get it...I'm just saying fall back. Bad look for ya.
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My entire argument is you have had a negative opinion on Kendrick for the last five years.
What?
Stop making stuff up and post an opinion about the music
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I've literally never made a thread about TI m-dawgy
LOL
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My entire argument is you have had a negative opinion on Kendrick for the last five years.
What?
Stop making stuff up and post an opinion about the music
I have multiple times. This album has everything. You're just hating hard, bruh.
One million percent positive if this came out in 1995 we'd be talking about it to this day. Nobody ever likes to view things as legendary two days after it happens, but give it time.
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So you are more of a modern hip-hop fan, and I can respect that. I think GKMC was better production wise, but I'm an old head. I know that more modern fans loved this album, and I hear many younger fans talk about the improved production for this album. I remember when OutKast had the Love Below 12 years ago, this sound was considered experimental, and then Kanye really took that experimental sound and made it his own starting with Late Registration. Now one review from a respected young critic called this "pure hip-hop." And Lyrically I'll agree, but he was talking the whole thing from production and to whole nine. So I am starting to realize that this is pure modern hip-hop. What I remember being experimental is now the norm. And that's not a bad thing at all. I always knew hip-hop would have to eventually merge with many different styles of music, and it has. This album I think will be a measuring stick to other rappers now. Young fans seem to really, really like this album, and some older heads are calling it trash. I'm kind of excited to see where hip-hop as a whole goes after this.
So that record doesn't have a modern sound? I'm asking because i don't really know. I don't automatically think a record is better because it has live instrumentation if that's what you think but it makes me appreciate it more if its good. I can't say i listen to much current hiphop but i like the direction its going in.
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So you are more of a modern hip-hop fan, and I can respect that. I think GKMC was better production wise, but I'm an old head. I know that more modern fans loved this album, and I hear many younger fans talk about the improved production for this album. I remember when OutKast had the Love Below 12 years ago, this sound was considered experimental, and then Kanye really took that experimental sound and made it his own starting with Late Registration. Now one review from a respected young critic called this "pure hip-hop." And Lyrically I'll agree, but he was talking the whole thing from production and to whole nine. So I am starting to realize that this is pure modern hip-hop. What I remember being experimental is now the norm. And that's not a bad thing at all. I always knew hip-hop would have to eventually merge with many different styles of music, and it has. This album I think will be a measuring stick to other rappers now. Young fans seem to really, really like this album, and some older heads are calling it trash. I'm kind of excited to see where hip-hop as a whole goes after this.
So that record doesn't have a modern sound? I'm asking because i don't really know. I don't automatically think a record is better because it has live instrumentation if that's what you think but it makes me appreciate it more if its good. I can't say i listen to much current hiphop but i like the direction its going in.
Nah, I'd say GKMC is more of a modern sound, but it's got a throwback feel. So it's almost like a modern take on the old westcoast sound, and it does have a Trap beat in Waterfalls. But GKMC is not nearly as risky sound wise as TPAB. It fits in the traditional sense of hip-hop. Content wise though, the story is amazing and to me, it will stand the test of time as a pure hip-hop classic.
And I think my main point, which I didn't hit on at all so I'm sorry for that, is that the sound of hip-hop is changing. It's not that Boom Bap sound of New York, or that G-Funk sound of LA, or that Booty Bass of Miami. Hip-Hop's sound is no longer regional, it's universal. And what was experimental 10 years ago and weird to us old heads, is now the norm. And that's not a bad thing, I have always thought hip-hop had to evolve to stay relevant and as someone who bought all of Kanye's albums and OutKast, I'm kind of happy it went in this direction. Also, Dr. Dre was the first to introduce live instruments in the 80's when he had DJ. Yella do live drums. And then on 2001, he had musicians play live instruments and he sampled live music and made them into crystal clear sounding hip-hop beats. So production in hip-hop has been going in this direction for a long time. I think it's actually pretty cool and I think we'll see more of it as time moves on. At least with more live instruments.
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One million percent positive if this came out in 1995 we'd be talking about it to this day.
No this album will be talked about in 20 years. In forums on the internet
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after one spin, i prefer it over GKMC and maybe Section .80, the production is amazing and Kendrick went in. a lot of experimental stuff flow-wise that i'm not fond of but I need more spin to form a definite opinion.
that song with Rapsody is ridiculous.
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One million percent positive if this came out in 1995 we'd be talking about it to this day
cant wait 2 hear this shit
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Hip-Hop's sound is no longer regional
thats what sucks..everything is becoming one
just like when men used to be men and women used to be women...now, it's slowly becomin one gender called faggot. thats my main beef wit kendrick. he's really killin the regional sound. but from the reviews i'm hearin, this album has more of a west coast sound to it than gkmc did, so i'm really anticipatin it. i'll let u know whats good after i hear it.
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Hip-Hop's sound is no longer regional
thats what sucks..everything is becoming one
just like when men used to be men and women used to be women...now, it's slowly becomin one gender called faggot. thats my main beef wit kendrick. he's really killin the regional sound. but from the reviews i'm hearin, this album has more of a west coast sound to it than gkmc did, so i'm really anticipatin it. i'll let u know whats good after i hear it.
Yeah, the first half of this album is really funky. Like it's almost like an updated G-Funk.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/8h4fMku7iZA
How can you have an account on this forum and not fuck with this song? Lmao.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/8h4fMku7iZA
How can you have an account on this forum and not fuck with this song? Lmao.
that shits pretty dope..definitely more west coast than anythin off the last one
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Can't get enough of this.
It's so deep that every time I listen to it, I hear something new.
Can't get enough of this.
It's so deep that every time I listen to it, I hear something new.
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This album already found its way to page 2 of the main forum?
Smh, Dubcc.
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just ordered my hard-copy 8)
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This album already found its way to page 2 of the main forum?
Smh, Dubcc.
theres diff threads on it tho
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if u really wanna shake ur head at dubcc, then check the lack of replies on this one: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=316406.0