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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 11, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
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http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh82dPo67vh0QTY1PC
So true.
Hip Hop Music and Culture needs a reality check bad!
I disagree that his music is trash doe
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so do u think thats a good excuse for why them fraternity hicks was chanting that racist shit?
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so do u think thats a good excuse for why them fraternity hicks was chanting that racist shit?
I'll tell you this. If we didn't do it then we'd have less of these incidents occurring.
Racism and Prejudice will "always" be around to some extent but Rap Music perpetuates the exact same cycle for not just Pecks but everybody in between too, even among our own kind especially
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so do u think thats a good excuse for why them fraternity hicks was chanting that racist shit?
I'll tell you this. If we didn't do it then we'd have less of these incidents occurring.
Racism and Prejudice will "always" be around to some extent but Rap Music perpetuates the exact same cycle for not just Pecks but everybody in between too, even among our own kind especially
but then u also got the whiteboys who want to be down because of it...so it goes both ways. everything is everything. it's guna happen either way, so blamin it on this is redundant.
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She was trying to make a broader point tho.
She just has to keep it PC becuz of who she is and mainly also becuz of the fact that she's Peck
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When someone from The Trilateral Commission is speaking then it's best to take heed and not rush to judgment.
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So I'm supposed to pretend that Jon Stewart didn't just play the Race Card?
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I don't get how rap music is blamed for that chant. If they were chanting a rap song on a bus and it was really offensive lyrically with the word nigger I'd get how people could blame the artists, but what they were chanting sounded a lot more like an old Johnny Rebel song, and those songs are just outright racist.
Johnny Rebel songs existed long before rap, and if rap never existed those kids would have still been chanting that chant. They're racist, elitist, white kids who think that kind of stuff is funny.
That being said, the idea that they can be expelled from a public university over private opinions is deplorable. If you are a completely private organization and want to establish a code of conduct for your members and kick them out when that code is broken, so be it, but the second state dollars start funding the organization in any way that organization has to first uphold all the laws and amendments of the state.
If you can link any of the expelled kids to any broken laws then go ahead and expel them for that, but to kick them out for this is setting a bad precedent.
The reality of it is these kds will either appeal and get back in, or be the champions of free speech for some other racist university to bring them in. No upper class white kid will ever suffer too hard for something like this.
But the next time some black kids that belong to a University get caught on camera saying hateful things and they get expelled; good luck trying to find a long list of schools to take them in.
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The idea that you didn't understand her broader point is delusional.
The idea that you don't get why those Pecks were expelled is likewise as well
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Btw I'm hip to your Troll
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The only troll here is you.
And I get why they were expelled. I'm disagreeing philosophically with the notion that you can be expelled from apublic school for private comments. If they had posted the vid themselves on the frat website that would change things.
and its you that missed the broader point; rap music had nothing to do with that chant. Racist chant recordings using the word nigger like that were famous in the south since the 60s, and the chants themselves were used years prior.
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Uhhh...yeah... I didn't know that
You missed the bigger picture becuz your mind hasn't fully developed yet.
Y'all are so caught up in the "illusion" that she's White and she mentioned the hypocrisies of Blacks that the message went totally over alot of people's heads.
What she said is true, nothing about that is a lie.
Again, when somebody from The Trilateral Commission is speaking then it's best to take heed. Especially when you're talking Philosophy.
Don't be "bigpimpin2.1"
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And I'm not Trolling. I'm just not as boring as alotta these so-called Free Speakers that hide behind Aliases online.
My Community is truly in denial about this Hip Hop Shit. We really are
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Uhhh...yeah... I didn't know that
You missed the bigger picture becuz your mind hasn't fully developed yet.
Y'all are so caught up in the "illusion" that she's White and she mentioned the hypocrisies of Blacks that the message went totally over alot of people's heads.
What she said is true, nothing about that is a lie.
Again, when somebody from The Trilateral Commission is speaking then it's best to take heed. Especially when you're talking Philosophy.
Don't be "bigpimpin2.1"
I get the hypocrisy just fine when it comes to white people trying to say nigga to be cool, or even to be badass, like Riley Cooper, but chants like what those kids sang on the bus have nothing to do with hip hop, and everything to do with the racist country music of the late 60s. And the word is secondary in that case; they could have used the word "blacks" instead of nigger in that chant and it would have been just as racist.
Alias, my ass. My name is Peter Kosmas, I am 32 years old and live in Toronto. Find me on facebook if you want. Come link me in Toronto, we can chill.
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I've heard Waka Flocka use "cracker" before.
That doesn't bother me in the least bit, but for him to be outraged over other people using a slur is cowardly and keeping it fake.
Let me stop anyone who attempts to correct me by saying "nigger" is far more offensive:
The reality is whenever someone uses a slang word for another race that isn't a direct quote from something else, or a racist joke (can't hate on a good one), they are doing so with either intentional disrespect, or complete lack of awareness, and neither is permissible really. The disrespect is there, and trying to qualify the severity of one word over another is petty semantics.
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Uhhh...yeah... I didn't know that
You missed the bigger picture becuz your mind hasn't fully developed yet.
Y'all are so caught up in the "illusion" that she's White and she mentioned the hypocrisies of Blacks that the message went totally over alot of people's heads.
What she said is true, nothing about that is a lie.
Again, when somebody from The Trilateral Commission is speaking then it's best to take heed. Especially when you're talking Philosophy.
Don't be "bigpimpin2.1"
I get the hypocrisy just fine when it comes to white people trying to say nigga to be cool, or even to be badass, like Riley Cooper, but chants like what those kids sang on the bus have nothing to do with hip hop, and everything to do with the racist country music of the late 60s. And the word is secondary in that case; they could have used the word "blacks" instead of nigger in that chant and it would have been just as racist.
Alias, my ass. My name is Peter Kosmas, I am 32 years old and live in Toronto. Find me on facebook if you want. Come link me in Toronto, we can chill.
Either way it still doesn't change anything. She (and others) have a right to feel and think that way. Becuz realistically, to be brutally honest, it's true.
Art imitates Life and Life imitates Art. You put that with the reality of our Culture and how we roll then in reality her/their views make sense
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shallow is one of the few cats on here who aint too scary to be himself
aka not an alias
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shallow is one of the few cats on here who aint too scary to be himself
aka not an alias
Could be. But facts be da facts Holmz
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Either way it still doesn't change anything. She (and others) have a right to feel and think that way. Becuz realistically, to be brutally honest, it's true.
Art imitates Life and Life imitates Art. You put that with the reality of our Culture and how we roll then in reality her/their views make sense
The problem with your assumption about me, is that you don't get that I usually am on your side with issues like this. And the reason I am on the other is because of my lighter skin and euro features I am privy to a side of white people that black people don't get to see. I know when a white person is saying nigger trying to be cool and when a white person is saying nigger trying to be racist. And that chant was trying to be racist. Which is fine by me. They don't have to apologize or admit it. I just want anyone that knows me to know I know better.
Also, if you knew more about the Johnny Rebel songs and had actual racist towards blacks people in your life you'd know that chants like that were common in white comedy circles long before Hip Hop was using the word freely. Even before blaxploitation (although I'm not old enough to remember that).
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shallow is one of the few cats on here who aint too scary to be himself
aka not an alias
Could be. But facts be da facts Holmz
What facts? I had my pic up on my sig for years, and my name is used on all forums I'm on just to make it easier to sign in. The origin of it is silly though. I was 17 and joined this forum to talk about west coast hip hop music, and it was about 2000/2001 and every rap fan in my peer group was all over underground east coast rap because it was "deep", so I made my name "Shallow". My argument to them is rapping about how good you rap isn't any deeper than rapping about how tough you are or how many women you fuck.
My thought process on rap and music has changed a lot, and changed back a lot, since then.
I don't see your government name on your sig.
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these white people sound so stupid talking about rap music like this...
...but anyway, those frat kids had their privacy invaded and this should not be a public discussion to begin with
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Either way it still doesn't change anything. She (and others) have a right to feel and think that way. Becuz realistically, to be brutally honest, it's true.
Art imitates Life and Life imitates Art. You put that with the reality of our Culture and how we roll then in reality her/their views make sense
The problem with your assumption about me, is that you don't get that I usually am on your side with issues like this. And the reason I am on the other is because of my lighter skin and euro features I am privy to a side of white people that black people don't get to see. I know when a white person is saying nigger trying to be cool and when a white person is saying nigger trying to be racist. And that chant was trying to be racist. Which is fine by me. They don't have to apologize or admit it. I just want anyone that knows me to know I know better.
Also, if you knew more about the Johnny Rebel songs and had actual racist towards blacks people in your life you'd know that chants like that were common in white comedy circles long before Hip Hop was using the word freely. Even before blaxploitation (although I'm not old enough to remember that).
Bruh I don't even know you and nor did I make any assumptions about you. Tha fuck you talkin about?
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Either way it still doesn't change anything. She (and others) have a right to feel and think that way. Becuz realistically, to be brutally honest, it's true.
Art imitates Life and Life imitates Art. You put that with the reality of our Culture and how we roll then in reality her/their views make sense
The problem with your assumption about me, is that you don't get that I usually am on your side with issues like this. And the reason I am on the other is because of my lighter skin and euro features I am privy to a side of white people that black people don't get to see. I know when a white person is saying nigger trying to be cool and when a white person is saying nigger trying to be racist. And that chant was trying to be racist. Which is fine by me. They don't have to apologize or admit it. I just want anyone that knows me to know I know better.
Also, if you knew more about the Johnny Rebel songs and had actual racist towards blacks people in your life you'd know that chants like that were common in white comedy circles long before Hip Hop was using the word freely. Even before blaxploitation (although I'm not old enough to remember that).
Bruh I don't even know you and nor did I make any assumptions about you. Tha fuck you talkin about?
You said I was a troll; an assumption. You said I was delusional; another assumption. You said my " mind hasn't fully developed yet"; one more assumption. That's tha fuck I'm talkin about.
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Uuuuuhhh.... You're definitely in your feelings and you're trying to come across as more mature and smarter than you are.
None of that which I said was an assumption. You played ball and I called your foul
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Uuuuuhhh.... You're definitely in your feelings and you're trying to come across as more mature and smarter than you are.
None of that which I said was an assumption. You played ball and I called your foul
I'm in my feelings?
Look, clearly I'm not smart enough to debate with you so I'll just concede inferiority and proclaim you the victor.
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There's actually nothing to debate. You had already lost trying to go another way with it.
You debatin and I'm discussin. Your perspective wasn't in check from the get-go Honkey
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No Honky blood in my pure Greek bloodline. Dont think I can say the same for your light skinned dna.
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No Honky blood in my pure Greek bloodline. Dont think I can say the same for your light skinned dna.
Just like you assumed they were influenced by Johnny Rebel songs and the like you assume that I don't know my bloodline
I have no Pecker blood in my bloodline dating back to the earlier 1800s and more than likely before that too.
Hmmm....
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I'm fortunate like that. Can't say the same for you. Your entire Culture and Way Of Life & Worship is a bootleg version of Egypt
Care to throw anymore jabs Bitch
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I'm fortunate like that. Can't say the same for you. Your entire Culture and Way Of Life & Worship is a bootleg version of Egypt
Care to throw anymore jabs Bitch
Try again. Our current way of life is based entirely on Jesus and the first question, but the only reason you know anything about Egypt is because of my maternal ancestors from Makedon laying claim to the mess it had become by 350 bc and preserving its great history and traditions in writing rather than pictures on satan worshipping obelisks.
And my maternal ancestors never would have madw it that far if not for my paternal ancestors of Arkadia helping Epaminondas defeat Sparta. Epamjnondas is my actual named. Named after the great slave-freeing general.
I can trace my roots back millenia. Can you? Can you read, write and speak the tongue of your ancestors. Do you even know who they are?
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Uh. Sure you can.
And for the record, my bloodline is mixed. Black, West Indian, Native American, Greek :o, Spanish, Italian, and Jewish
You tried.
And everyone knows the Greeks were taught/indoctrinated by The Egyptians. It's not even a conversation worth having just becuz you might know one or two things that most people don't know about your people. Insecure ass muthafucka lol
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Realistically, the video was probably made out of spite becuz they heard "Waka Flocka Flame" was coming and probably thought his name and everything he stands for (on surface level, which is reasonable) was ridiculous.
So they made a little "home video" probably high off of life (and other drugs) and really didn't think too much of it.
That was my first conclusion when I first heard the incident. It only makes sense. Sure it was a random video, even though it wasn't random random. If the timeline matches I'm sure it's more than likely. But I admit that I haven't seen their video (no reason too)
"Lock my CEO up, Now it's back to coka
Niggers talkin shit bruh, Hang em by a Rope bruh"
- Waka Flocka Flame "O Let's Do It (Remix)"
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And for the record, my bloodline is mixed. Black, West Indian, Native American, Greek :o, Spanish, Italian, and Jewish
my ficca
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Since when are greeks not white?
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Since when are greeks not white?
They aren't American Peck. They're more like Eastern Wetbacks
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Since when are greeks not white?
WATCH MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING...THEY SEEM MORE LIKE MIDDLE-EASTERNS THAN YOUR TYPICAL ELMER FUDD STYLE REDNECK. I ALWAYS CLASSIFIED GREEKS AS WHITE, BUT SHALLOW MAKES SOME INTERESTING POINTS.
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Since when are greeks not white?
They aren't American Peck. They're more like Eastern Wetbacks
Your racism is top notch. I'm not even saying that sarcastically. As a species, we need to be less sensitive and have a better sense of humor.
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I was leaving this one place today and on the way out this 80something year old white bitch with a cane was entering.
So instead of holding the door open like I would normally for any female I made her open her own door.
Needless to say that they were Double Doors
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Uh. Sure you can.
And for the record, my bloodline is mixed. Black, West Indian, Native American, Greek :o, Spanish, Italian, and Jewish
You tried.
And everyone knows the Greeks were taught/indoctrinated by The Egyptians. It's not even a conversation worth having just becuz you might know one or two things that most people don't know about your people. Insecure ass muthafucka lol
Αν θελεις να μαθεις λιγο για τη πατριδα σου, να μου το πεις και θα σου δειξω ορισνενα πραματα.
And I'm not doubting anything about Egypts influence on Ancient Greece. I'm just telling you that most of that information comes from the Greek literature. Unless you can show me the Ancient EgyptianHistory tects that explain how Egypt came into knowing Greece, which you can't because the don't exist. And neither you nor anyone can show any solid evidence of what exactly in Greek myth, math, or science was taught to them by Egyptians; only that Greeks admitted to going to Egypt to learn. Show me writings from ancient Egypt that explain what Egyptians taught Greeks.
Not that I deny it. I've read Black Athena and am akin to agree with it.
And my point however was completely missed by you. Ancient Greece and Modern Greece are two very different places culturally. There is next to nothing left of the Ancient Greek culture. In current Greece one could argue that a lot of our culture comes from the Ottoman Muslims, but not from Egypt. No one in Greece worships Zeus, or Zeus Amman. No one builds pagan obelisks.
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thats fine and all, but what did you think of violence of tha lambz?
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thats fine and all, but what did you think of violence of tha lambz?
Violence Of The Lambz >>>>> The Chronic
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thats love
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L.A.M.B >>>>>>>>> the muthafuckin Beatles
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beats slap harder, thats fsure