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Title: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 03, 2015, 11:49:53 AM
I know I'm way late, but just today I peeped the imagery at the end of "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" and it is pretty dope... it almost looks like the Last Supper, Davinci Jesus painting... of course Pac was the Black Jesus.... and then it is P.I.G. at the dinner table, which symbolizes Death Row's dominance over Bad Boy and B.I.G... how Biggie and Puffy got served
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 03, 2015, 11:57:13 AM
What cracks me up is Snoop was going full steam ahead with backing up 'Pac, and letting him talk shit on BIG next to him, then he was trying to be friendly and say he had no problems with BIG. I mean, the all peace shit fits Snoop post-murder trail. But yeah, at the time you can see the conflict of Snoop going from hood Snoop to fully developed adult Snoop.

That video BTW has always been great. I just rewatched it and I always noticed that, but I never got the symbolism. Like I was just like, yeah, they're eating a roasted pig, some gangsta/mafioso shit. Then when you mentioned P.I.G., I was like, oh fuck... LOL... 20 years later... hahahahaha
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Post by: MOBNigga06 on April 03, 2015, 12:15:47 PM
Never realized this before either…Pac was a clever mothafucka.

Snoop was a bitch for talking about being cool with Biggie and Puffy on the radio.

Pac was right for being mad at the nigga over that. Complete betrayal of Pac's movement, which was intended to destroy Bad Boy and make people unwilling to work with them. Snoop saying he's cool with Big definitely undermines Pac's mission.

Snoop should have rode harder with Pac, then Pac wouldn't have died mad at the nigga.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 03, 2015, 12:47:25 PM
What cracks me up is Snoop was going full steam ahead with backing up 'Pac, and letting him talk shit on BIG next to him, then he was trying to be friendly and say he had no problems with BIG. I mean, the all peace shit fits Snoop post-murder trail. But yeah, at the time you can see the conflict of Snoop going from hood Snoop to fully developed adult Snoop.

That video BTW has always been great. I just rewatched it and I always noticed that, but I never got the symbolism. Like I was just like, yeah, they're eating a roasted pig, some gangsta/mafioso shit. Then when you mentioned P.I.G., I was like, oh fuck... LOL... 20 years later... hahahahaha

 MDogg you mentioned Snoops post murder trial, the song was recorded while Snoop was still in the trial, and even the video was probably filmed before he was acquitted.  It was after being acquitted that Snoop changed.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 03, 2015, 12:48:19 PM
Never realized this before either…

Cool.. I thought everyone was going to clown on me for just now noticing it...
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Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 03, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
snoops definitely a soft ass dude
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 03, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
What cracks me up is Snoop was going full steam ahead with backing up 'Pac, and letting him talk shit on BIG next to him, then he was trying to be friendly and say he had no problems with BIG. I mean, the all peace shit fits Snoop post-murder trail. But yeah, at the time you can see the conflict of Snoop going from hood Snoop to fully developed adult Snoop.

That video BTW has always been great. I just rewatched it and I always noticed that, but I never got the symbolism. Like I was just like, yeah, they're eating a roasted pig, some gangsta/mafioso shit. Then when you mentioned P.I.G., I was like, oh fuck... LOL... 20 years later... hahahahaha

 MDogg you mentioned Snoops post murder trial, the song was recorded while Snoop was still in the trial, and even the video was probably filmed before he was acquitted.  It was after being acquitted that Snoop changed.

I think you are right. I mean if you look at Snoop during those years, it does get all fuzzy, but before the shooting he was really that Snoop Doggy Dogg that we all remember, but after being charged and during his trial like if you saw him he always looked like he had a blank expression on his face all the time. But during this time he was still trying to play it off like he was hard and a gangsta and sitting next to 'Pac while 'Pac ran down BIG, and then doing this video. But after he was acquitted, which was in Feb. of 1996, he changed. He still filmed this video, but he was starting to question himself and the whole Death Row movement. Then that summer he was so much about talking about peace, and being cool with BIG.

Look, I don't blame Snoop, but yeah it's interesting how he just changed in 1996, as 2Pac was riding high as his partner and labelmate.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 03, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Snoop being a turncoat and changing sides just shows what billshit the studio G persona is. Dudes are just playing a role and never really believe in themselves, let alone the shit they're talking at that one minute

That's bullshit... there are so many fake studio gangstaz in rap, but Snoop is one of the rare instances where art does imitate life.  His time selling rock with the Crips, and getting locked up, shaped who he was as a rapper, and it was an honest portrayal in the Snoop Doggy Dogg days.

...Obviously, later he got rich and comfortable and became a family man and wanted away from that life.  Then he kind of took the Dre route and started doing the shit as entertainment.  But he is still inspired from his past so there is still that element of reality.
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Post by: soopa-man on April 03, 2015, 02:31:55 PM
Yeah he is fake he made a grown man ass decision to not mash on rappers that didn't want it and didn't diss back, and distanced himself from dudes with money acting like kids in the hood, that would save his life and let him grow as a father and mentor to rappers in the future, instead of a dead woulda coulda shoulda rapper, damn snoop is fake... Had that murder trial rode on eazy and ruthless, smashed nyc buildings in nyc for shooting at him, stood up to nyc when they booed Dre and death row at the source awards, and he didn't get shit out of it but every one hating on him and death row at the time... So fake
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Post by: Black Excellence on April 04, 2015, 09:03:27 AM
https://youtu.be/DQeLBX3JP2Y  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 04, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
Never realized this before either…

Cool.. I thought everyone was going to clown on me for just now noticing it...
Yeah, it's old as hell... but as long as you admit it, it's no big deal.  Unlike some other people who think they discovered electricity or something haha.

Another thing I noticed about that video a long time ago.  In the intro scene, the King Tut statue right behind Biggie.  No coincidence.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 04, 2015, 10:39:59 AM


Another thing I noticed about that video a long time ago.  In the intro scene, the King Tut statue right behind Biggie.  No coincidence.

damn.. good find homie
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 04, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
Yeah he is fake he made a grown man ass decision to not mash on rappers that didn't want it and didn't diss back, and distanced himself from dudes with money acting like kids in the hood, that would save his life and let him grow as a father and mentor to rappers in the future, instead of a dead woulda coulda shoulda rapper, damn snoop is fake... Had that murder trial rode on eazy and ruthless, smashed nyc buildings in nyc for shooting at him, stood up to nyc when they booed Dre and death row at the source awards, and he didn't get shit out of it but every one hating on him and death row at the time... So fake

I get your point, but now your taking it a little too far in the other direction...

..So Snoop didn't get nothing out of beefing with Eazy (Chronic 3X Million sold) or the murder trial (Murder was the Case 2X million sold) or kicking down buildings in "New York, New York" (Dogg Food 2X million sold).

Snoop was the number one rapper in the world during those years when he was talking shit at the Source awards, beefing with eazy, kicking down buildings, etc... So I would say he got a whole lot out of it.  In fact, he got so much out of it that he was able to live comfortably and have his career established to the point where he didn't ever have to take such risks again. 
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Post by: MOBNigga06 on April 04, 2015, 09:54:53 PM
Something I've always wondered about this video: who is the other guy standing behind Tupac at the beginning, the one who isn't Big Syke? I vaguely remember seeing a handwritten treatment for the video which said that Syke and Bogart were the two people behind Pac here. Anybody know if this is correct?

The name Bogart appears in a few of Pac's songs as some obscure homie of his and Big Syke's. He's mentioned in ad-libs on Picture me Rollin and All Eyez On M, as well as in one of verses on Closest Roaddawgz ("big Bogart got the alibi").
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 04, 2015, 10:20:31 PM
interesting
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 05, 2015, 08:11:59 AM
Something I've always wondered about this video: who is the other guy standing behind Tupac at the beginning, the one who isn't Big Syke? I vaguely remember seeing a handwritten treatment for the video which said that Syke and Bogart were the two people behind Pac here. Anybody know if this is correct?

The name Bogart appears in a few of Pac's songs as some obscure homie of his and Big Syke's. He's mentioned in ad-libs on Picture me Rollin and All Eyez On M, as well as in one of verses on Closest Roaddawgz ("big Bogart got the alibi").

it's clear Syke was one of Pac's closest homies.  But being Pac's homie sometimes can seem like a hard job.  I mean, look how shit fell through with his homie Stretch... and then word is Syke and Pac were at odds before his death.  I think Pac really demanded a lot out of his friendships, and I mean, rightfully so... considering all that he gave in return to his homies.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 05, 2015, 08:13:54 AM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 05, 2015, 11:17:03 AM
The name Bogart appears in a few of Pac's songs as some obscure homie of his and Big Syke's. He's mentioned in ad-libs on Picture me Rollin and All Eyez On M, as well as in one of verses on Closest Roaddawgz ("big Bogart got the alibi").
And also in Ambitionz az a Ridah ("Me, Syke and Bogart strapped up the same night")
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Post by: Black Excellence on April 05, 2015, 11:34:49 AM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice
he hit pac wit that ether.
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Post by: CORREA on April 05, 2015, 12:38:31 PM
why u people talking about this like it was yesterday trying to relive your youth years smh
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Post by: Sccit on April 05, 2015, 12:53:21 PM
the fuck is up with will deleting his posts lately?



but yea, snoop was definitely playin the fence, and i cant get down wit that....it's the easiest stance to take, but the least respectable.
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Post by: Sccit on April 05, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
Snoop being a turncoat and changing sides just shows what billshit the studio G persona is. Dudes are just playing a role and never really believe in themselves, let alone the shit they're talking at that one minute

That's bullshit... there are so many fake studio gangstaz in rap, but Snoop is one of the rare instances where art does imitate life.  His time selling rock with the Crips, and getting locked up, shaped who he was as a rapper, and it was an honest portrayal in the Snoop Doggy Dogg days.

...Obviously, later he got rich and comfortable and became a family man and wanted away from that life.  Then he kind of took the Dre route and started doing the shit as entertainment.  But he is still inspired from his past so there is still that element of reality.



it was highly embellished tho...i mean, was he bout it? yea, no doubt. but no commercial rapper was really bangin in the way they portrayed themselves, and thats a fact.
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Post by: Sccit on April 05, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
Something I've always wondered about this video: who is the other guy standing behind Tupac at the beginning, the one who isn't Big Syke? I vaguely remember seeing a handwritten treatment for the video which said that Syke and Bogart were the two people behind Pac here. Anybody know if this is correct?

The name Bogart appears in a few of Pac's songs as some obscure homie of his and Big Syke's. He's mentioned in ad-libs on Picture me Rollin and All Eyez On M, as well as in one of verses on Closest Roaddawgz ("big Bogart got the alibi").

it's clear Syke was one of Pac's closest homies.  But being Pac's homie sometimes can seem like a hard job.  I mean, look how shit fell through with his homie Stretch... and then word is Syke and Pac were at odds before his death.  I think Pac really demanded a lot out of his friendships, and I mean, rightfully so... considering all that he gave in return to his homies.


i can feel that
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Post by: bigpimpin20 on April 05, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
people always bring that Snoop  betrayin Pac shit, what about Pac doing song with Bone Thugs, do anybody was mad at him for that? He had more balls to stand up against Suge & Pac than if he would start dissin Biggie.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 05, 2015, 01:34:43 PM
people always bring that Snoop  betrayal Pac shit, what about Pac doing song with Bone Thugs, do anybody was mad at him for that? He had more balls to stand up against Suge & Pac than if he would start dissin Biggie.

Bone Thugs weren't beefing with Death Row by mid '96 - Eazy was gone over a year at that point.

and Pac used to listen to Crossroads every day in jail
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Post by: bigpimpin20 on April 05, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
people always bring that Snoop  betrayal Pac shit, what about Pac doing song with Bone Thugs, do anybody was mad at him for that? He had more balls to stand up against Suge & Pac than if he would start dissin Biggie.

Bone Thugs weren't beefing with Death Row by mid '96 - Eazy was gone over a year at that point.

and Pac used to listen to Crossroads every day in jail
Dogg Pound squashed beef with Dresta around 98-99 so i think they wasnt on good terms with Bone Thugs or anybody from Ruthless in 96. i think it was Bizzy who said they ended that beef with Snoop after Biggies death with help of  Minister Farrakhan. What was the easier route to take? have your own point of view and refuse to follow Suge & Pac (he had to be aware that they aint gon be too happy about it) or play along and start dissin "scared" Biggie who lived on another coast and wasnt a threat in anyway?
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 05, 2015, 08:30:03 PM




it was highly embellished tho...i mean, was he bout it? yea, no doubt. but no commercial rapper was really bangin in the way they portrayed themselves, and thats a fact.

what else you want the nicca to do?? I mean, he was on trial for murdering somebody, had been in prison, and sold rock for the crips, and he has been a for real pimp...

...I mean damn, Pac was robbed, shot, nearly killed, framed, falsely accused and imprisoned, shot at police officers, chased off BIG and Puff, fucked Biggies bitch, grew up amongst Panthers and gangstaz, and you still ain't gonna even make an exception for Pac.  

Who are you to speak on all "commercial rappers" like that?  Is L.A.M.B. servin up the most authentic gangsta shit ever created?
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 05, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
Brian, when you understand that Brotha Lynch Hung isn't a bay area rapper maybe Sccit will have time for your "approval".
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 05, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Brian, when you understand that Brotha Lynch Hung isn't a bay area rapper maybe Sccit will have time for your "approval".

On the real.. I think Sccit is just downplaying other rappers street cred out of his own insecurity about his own street cred.  Whatever makes you feel better cuzz... but Infinite is gonna keep it real regardless

...and I don't care where Brotha Lynch Hung is from, I'm not a fan of his and can't recall even one of his songs
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 05, 2015, 08:42:28 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=07obgjIiTTk

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW3qCIq2WII



there you go  - start jocking him now.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 05, 2015, 08:50:29 PM
Nigga this is G block, trust me
Dump on any nigga with the rusty old trusty
Sacramento yes, catch him in the chest
Right by his tour bus left a bloody mess, yes
Pupils none a cuddy left
Coathanga strangled him, aimed at him
He don't know what angle I'm coming from
Tangled him, spiderwebs all over his cranium
(That nigga has spiderwebs all over his cranium, nigga)
Me and Crooked I know, niggas be talking too much
Nigga shut your pie hole, everybody know you do suck
This ain't a reality show, hungry niggas do touch
Mothafuckas two clutch, giving niggas crew cutz
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Post by: Blood$ on April 06, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
if you just now noticed this you were never a real Pac/Death Row fan in the first place
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Post by: Sccit on April 06, 2015, 12:18:08 PM
Brian, when you understand that Brotha Lynch Hung isn't a bay area rapper maybe Sccit will have time for your "approval".

On the real.. I think Sccit is just downplaying other rappers street cred out of his own insecurity about his own street cred.  Whatever makes you feel better cuzz... but Infinite is gonna keep it real regardless

...and I don't care where Brotha Lynch Hung is from, I'm not a fan of his and can't recall even one of his songs

U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.
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Post by: Sccit on April 06, 2015, 12:35:27 PM




it was highly embellished tho...i mean, was he bout it? yea, no doubt. but no commercial rapper was really bangin in the way they portrayed themselves, and thats a fact.

what else you want the nicca to do?? I mean, he was on trial for murdering somebody, had been in prison, and sold rock for the crips, and he has been a for real pimp...

...I mean damn, Pac was robbed, shot, nearly killed, framed, falsely accused and imprisoned, shot at police officers, chased off BIG and Puff, fucked Biggies bitch, grew up amongst Panthers and gangstaz, and you still ain't gonna even make an exception for Pac.  

Who are you to speak on all "commercial rappers" like that?  Is L.A.M.B. servin up the most authentic gangsta shit ever created?


he didn't kill anyone on no Gangsta shit, he killed some1 after he was already famous and bodyguarded up as a means of self protection.....and we not talkin bout pac here, we talkin bout snoop. a real gangsta rapper would be tray deee. snoop hung wit the gs, but was at most a drug dealer. not tryna downplay your childhood heros, just speakin it like it is.

oh an lol@snoop bein a foreal pimp .. lmfao .. was there also a point in time where u really believed eminem killed his wife?

cmon, Abdul.
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Don't matter if Snoop was real or not. Dude was, and is surrounded by real muthaphukkaz. No doubt about it. If you watch the Godfather, Vito and Michael Corleone only killed dudes when they were coming up. By the time they got to the top, they didn't kill anyone. A real gangsta don't have to do dirt, they got dudes to do the dirt for them.

So all these shit. I really don't care about Snoop's street cred. Even in the 90's, Snoop's street cred was suspect. But no one questioned who he surrounded himself with. He just didn't have the heart to do dirt on his own, and I think the murder trial showed that. He changed it up. I do think he did 'Pac wrong with the whole Bad Boy beef, but in a way I understand. He was growing into his own, he was only 24 at the time, 'Pac was 25, they were kids trying to learn to be men with no role models but Suge Knight to guide them. But when I see Snoop, I see a star. He was in jail before being famous, dude was working hard to make it big, and he is a star. You ever see him in concert, he just gives off that vibe, you are watching a star.
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Post by: Sccit on April 06, 2015, 01:40:37 PM
Don't matter if Snoop was real or not. Dude was, and is surrounded by real muthaphukkaz.


yea, and snoop is real, no doubt.....it's just that a lot of times, rappers are rappin the life that their homies lived. and thats the case with snoop. ive heard ogs who knew him as a kid say it wit my own 2 ears, and infinite is up in kansas city (or indonesia or wherever he at) basing his assumptions off of his childhood fantasies of dre and snoop bein real killers..... just the fact that infinite thinks that snoop was a foreal pimp shows where we at.
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2015, 01:48:40 PM
Don't matter if Snoop was real or not. Dude was, and is surrounded by real muthaphukkaz.


yea, and snoop is real, no doubt.....it's just that a lot of times, rappers are rappin the life that their homies lived. and thats the case with snoop. ive heard ogs who knew him as a kid say it wit my own 2 ears, and infinite is up in kansas city basing his assumptions off of his childhood fantasies of dre and snoop bein real killers..... just the fact that infinite thinks that snoop was a foreal pimp shows where we at LOL.

I remember in high school, people use to have pictures of Snoop everywhere before selfies, and when no one was online. Dude was out there, and people knew who he was before he was famous.
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Post by: Sccit on April 06, 2015, 01:55:03 PM
to some, it's like findin out santa clause isnt real.......................others just take it in stride and realize that being a man means you're guna talk yourself up in one way or another. it's called pride and we all got it. but if you believe it all, i got some fried ice cream i wanna sell u :laugh:
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 07, 2015, 10:21:22 AM
2pac is infinite's santa claus
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 07, 2015, 10:42:17 AM


U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Please name me one of my favorite rappers that is SOFT compared to you, I have to hear this.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 07, 2015, 10:43:47 AM


U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Please name me one of my favorite rappers that is SOFT compared to you, I have to hear this.

(http://mikesdailyjukebox.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dr-dre-world-class-wrecking-cru-300x300.jpg)
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 07, 2015, 10:48:02 AM
..... just the fact that infinite thinks that snoop was a foreal pimp shows where we at.

Snoop details that shit on the Reincarnation documentary, so what is actually funny is that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.  

And btw... being a pervert is neither cool nor funny, looks like your boy Petey is also givin you tips on how to make your avatar here at the dubb ;D
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Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
..... just the fact that infinite thinks that snoop was a foreal pimp shows where we at.

Snoop details that shit on the Reincarnation documentary, so what is actually funny is that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. 

And btw... being a pervert is neither cool nor funny, looks like your boy Petey is also givin you tips on how to make your signature here at the dubb ;D


again, it's all for image purposes. why would a multi-millionaire resort to pimping? ud have to be gullible as fuck to believe that. i saw that documentary...again, believe me when i say snoop was never a pimp. he hung out with pimps (don juan) and rapped the life that they live...and he claims to have tried pimpin in 2003, but was rappin pimp shit way before that. it's for the image brodie.


and what are u talking about "pervert"? what in my signature is perverted??
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 11:28:10 AM
U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Wait, what?

Silence of the LAMB.

Though, isn't your family pretty rich?
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 11:38:34 AM


U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Please name me one of my favorite rappers that is SOFT compared to you, I have to hear this.

(http://mikesdailyjukebox.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dr-dre-world-class-wrecking-cru-300x300.jpg)



LOL.....infinite literally grew up believing that dr. dre was a a real killer. he gets heart murmurs every time he hears otherwise.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 11:41:39 AM
U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Wait, what?

Silence of the LAMB.

Though, isn't your family pretty rich?


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 07, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
infinite is a pretty obsessive fan of his music.


this is from an old thread about the "east coast west coast killa" song


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Actually Hype Williams directed it. I have it but it's on video. Classic video no doubt. The whole "end of the world" concept was ill. It reminded me of "California Love" which Hype also directed. Even Scarface makes a cameo in the beginning ;).

I'll pay you $30.00 to make me a copy of that video and send it to me. PM me.




30 bucks for a copy of a music video???  :laugh:



and did you know INFINITE was the original Will B?


1. Dogg Food- 5/5
2. Streetz is A Mutha- 4.6/5
3. Kuruption- 3.7/5
4. Dillinger and Young Gotti- 1/5
5. Space Boogie- 3.5/5



a 3.7 out of 5??  a 4.6 out of 5?? 

the fuck???
 

:laugh:

Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 12:02:14 PM
U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Wait, what?

Silence of the LAMB.

Though, isn't your family pretty rich?


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

Just saying, because I saw an amazing video about LAMB killing someone and burying their body out somewhere. So this is you in real life?
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 07, 2015, 12:04:05 PM
U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Wait, what?

Silence of the LAMB.

Though, isn't your family pretty rich?


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

Just saying, because I saw an amazing video about LAMB killing someone and burying their body out somewhere. So this is you in real life?


"for some motherfuckers it takes guts for what i do casually" - sccit


 8)
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Blood$ on April 07, 2015, 12:13:37 PM
lmfao at 3.7/5 and 4.6/5

this dude literally takes an L in every single thread of this section
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Blood$ on April 07, 2015, 12:23:49 PM


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

I get your point about real and fake exists no matter your economic status.  So in that regard you are on point.

But I think people just bring up economics because when you want to call rappers like Dre and Snoop SOFT when they came up rough, that shit isn't cool.  And that opens you up for scrutiny if you want to talk that kind of shit about Snoop and how Snoop came up, like you are in some position to talk.... when whether you were working or not you've always had expensive clothes to wear and a bomb car to drive.

To put it in perspective, 2pac moved into your neighborhood AFTER he had blown up and sold millions of albums.  You had it given to you.  So don't throw stones if you livin in a glass house, cuzzin...Snoop came up rough, Pac came up rough, and Dre came up rough, so don't even try to pretend that they are SOFT compared to you. 

Dr. Dre didn't come up rough and neither did Ice Cube, both came from well off families and attended private schools full of whities
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 12:39:17 PM
Seriously, we are getting on Infinite for some shit back in 2002? Really? I mean, that's 13 years ago. Pointless. 13 years ago, Sccit was 14, I was in college and Infinite was on his religious journey. Shit changes.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on April 07, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
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but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

So you rape, torture, and sodomize on the regular, eh? Worship the devil and all that huh?

And you're callin rappers soft compared to you, and Santa claus...come on son.

Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Blood$ on April 07, 2015, 12:44:38 PM
Seriously, we are getting on Infinite for some shit back in 2002? Really? I mean, that's 13 years ago. Pointless. 13 years ago, Sccit was 14, I was in college and Infinite was on his religious journey. Shit changes.

it's relevant to me since it explains the idiocy in his posts lol not much has changed for him evidently  
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 12:49:11 PM
Seriously, we are getting on Infinite for some shit back in 2002? Really? I mean, that's 13 years ago. Pointless. 13 years ago, Sccit was 14, I was in college and Infinite was on his religious journey. Shit changes.

it's relevant to me since it explains the idiocy in his posts lol not much has changed for him evidently  

 :eh:
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 01:04:08 PM
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but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

So you rape, torture, and sodomize on the regular, eh? Worship the devil and all that huh?

And you're callin rappers soft compared to you, and Santa claus...come on son.




i think most people are soft compared to me....but then again, every man should feel that about himself. it's called havin heart.


but yea, horrorcore rap is also embellished fiction. infinite should know about it first-hand, considering thats part of what got one of his favorite rappers (eminem) to where he was....it's an integral part of hip-hop.


and as i grow older, i'm actually fading off the horrocore shit tbh....not to say that i dont got love for it, cuz i still do 100%. it's a sub-genre that is fulla imagery and endless possibilities.... but the older i get, the more i find myself making more and more real shit that pertains to actuality. but yea, i grew up on lynch and eminem too, so thats always guna be part of me.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
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but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

So you rape, torture, and sodomize on the regular, eh? Worship the devil and all that huh?

And you're callin rappers soft compared to you, and Santa claus...come on son.




i think most people are soft compared to me....but then again, every man should feel that about himself. it's called havin heart.


but yea, horrorcore rap is also embellished fiction. infinite should know about it first-hand, considering thats part of what got one of his favorite rappers (eminem) to where he was....it's an integral part of hip-hop.


and as i grow older, i'm actually fading off the horrocore shit tbh....not to say that i dont got love for it, cuz i still do 100%. it's a sub-genre that is fulla imagery and endless possibilities.... but the older i get, the more i find myself making more and more real shit that pertains to actuality. but yea, i grew up on lynch and eminem too, so thats always guna be part of me.

So that's all fiction. Not real. Got it.

So when I rapped, and I put down vocals, I was doing more political racial shit. My only fantasy songs were about trying to get girls (because in real life, I wasn't trying, I was getting) and writing about my cousins lives in jail. As I get older, I just stopped... LOL.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
U just mad cuz your favorite rappers were SOFT compared to me .. literally on some lip gloss wearin, Prince lite shit. and out of fear of being cheddar bob, you're tryna flip the script on LAMB. I see U.

Wait, what?

Silence of the LAMB.

Though, isn't your family pretty rich?


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

Just saying, because I saw an amazing video about LAMB killing someone and burying their body out somewhere. So this is you in real life?


naah...but im not tryna pretend like it is. just like eminem wasnt tryna pretend that there was actually bodies on his floor at 3 am in the morning....horrorcore rap is obviously fictional. it's a sub-genre all about doing the most with your imagination and pushing the limit with your darkest thoughts. but i dont have to explain that to u, cuz u already know.

however, dre and snoop were legit tryna convince people that they were cold blooded killers....it wasnt fictional rap, they were tryna portray a certain image, and they did it very well.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
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but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

So you rape, torture, and sodomize on the regular, eh? Worship the devil and all that huh?

And you're callin rappers soft compared to you, and Santa claus...come on son.




i think most people are soft compared to me....but then again, every man should feel that about himself. it's called havin heart.


but yea, horrorcore rap is also embellished fiction. infinite should know about it first-hand, considering thats part of what got one of his favorite rappers (eminem) to where he was....it's an integral part of hip-hop.


and as i grow older, i'm actually fading off the horrocore shit tbh....not to say that i dont got love for it, cuz i still do 100%. it's a sub-genre that is fulla imagery and endless possibilities.... but the older i get, the more i find myself making more and more real shit that pertains to actuality. but yea, i grew up on lynch and eminem too, so thats always guna be part of me.

So that's all fiction. Not real. Got it.

So when I rapped, and I put down vocals, I was doing more political racial shit. My only fantasy songs were about trying to get girls (because in real life, I wasn't trying, I was getting) and writing about my cousins lives in jail. As I get older, I just stopped... LOL.

yea but theres a difference between writing shit that is obviously fictional ala brotha lynch and writing shit where you're tryna portray yourself a certain way ala dr. dre......thats all im gettin at
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 07, 2015, 01:17:27 PM
Dr. Dre didn't come up rough and neither did Ice Cube, both came from well off families and attended private schools full of whities


they also went to the same high school as me and kicked it with pretty much the same group of people i do......but since infinite grew up idolizing them, he sees them as havin some rough childhood, when in reality, a majority of them cats was already partyin it up and livin a wonderful life by the time they were in their teens. for instance, infinite had a way rougher life than dr. dre or ice cube, and that goes without saying....but it doesnt mean he's better or harder than them. not by a long shot.

some people just buy into the hype and put these rappers on a pedestal.....they want everything they heard growin up about them to be true, when it's simply not the case.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 07, 2015, 01:19:57 PM


first of all, what does money have anything to do with any of this? my family consists of israeli immigrants who came here to hustle and make a living in this country.......punks and real ones exist in all classes of life. but since u asked, no, my family is not rich.. they make just enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of the month with nothin left over. rich is when ur money works for u, not when u work for your money...my family filed for bankruptcy back when the economy was at its worst..."rich"


and me...i'm personally doin alright. i work every day, but am not anywhere close to where i wanna be financially.....yet.


but thats neither here nor there...bein a real one comes from within. and a lot of these rappers are soft and portray a different image altogether. and for some, these rappers are santa clause status. for others, they are regular people, just like u or infinite............so how do YOU see it?

I get your point about real and fake exists no matter your economic status.  So in that regard you are on point.

But I think people just bring up economics because when you want to call rappers like Dre and Snoop SOFT when they came up rough, that shit isn't cool.  And that opens you up for scrutiny if you want to talk that kind of shit about Snoop and how Snoop came up, like you are in some position to talk.... when whether you were working or not you've always had expensive clothes to wear and a bomb car to drive.

To put it in perspective, 2pac moved into your neighborhood AFTER he had blown up and sold millions of albums.  You had it given to you.  So don't throw stones if you livin in a glass house, cuzzin...Snoop came up rough, Pac came up rough, and Dre came up rough, so don't even try to pretend that they are SOFT compared to you. 

Dr. Dre didn't come up rough and neither did Ice Cube, both came from well off families and attended private schools full of whities


i don't think MC Ren or Yella were from the ghetto either.  Ice Cube even went to college.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 07, 2015, 01:50:25 PM
Which is why Cube's subject manner was much more political, and once he left NWA that political aspect left with him. He was on another level. But he did drop out after a year to go to New York and record AmeriKKKa'z Most Wanted. If you ever saw the MTV interview of NWA it was comical because they were at Cube's house, there was a pool in the back yard and Cube was trying to pass off an obviously middle class neighborhood as rough.

Dr. Dre was a bit different. He went to high school at Centennial and failed out, then transferred to Fremont, then failed out, so he just started spinning records. But he never went to a private school, though he tried and couldn't get in because of grades. So it's not like Dre was living the privileged life. He just never gangbanged, he was like that musical dude in the hood spinning records and not claiming to be a gangsta.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 08, 2015, 12:27:19 PM
People need to stop making false prophets of these studio Gz

Again, what the fucc do you guys need to consider a rapper "real"?  I mean, according to the kind of standards your suggesting a rapper would already be dead or in prison before he could even have a career in rap.

Russel Simmons talks a lot about how when you look at history, it was the poets that people depended upon to speak about the reality of the times they lived in.  They were truth tellers, and they were able to express a reality that lay people could not articulate—but it existed.  2pac, for example, is the culmination of 400 years of slavery, Afeni can even recall her grandmothers history of being a slave.  As Fredrick Douglas said, "You are not judged from the height you have risen but from the depths you have climbed".  Pac both climbed from the depths and reached the heights.

The reason 2pac is the realest rapper that ever lived is that 2pac lived through some of the darkest realities in American history and he lived long enough to tell about it before being murdered himself.  And this is all documented.  There are a lot of great books detailing the reality of what 2pac went through.  Childhood friend Darrin Bastfield wrote a great book about Pac's life in Baltimore called "Back In The Day" and Micheal Eric Dyson wrote a great book "Holler If You Hear Me" about Pac's role as a poet, truth teller, and prophet of his time.  2pac truly was the rose that grew from the cracks of concrete and he was a hip-hop Prophet, and that poet that people will look at hundreds of years from now to understand life before the turn of the millennium.  

Snoop was a contemporary of 2pac, co-conspirator, 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted—and a lot of people may forget that it was actually Snoop who was the #1 rapper in the world in the mid-90's—and Pac was actually #2.  After Pac died, Pac then became the clear #1.  The point is that, Snoop may not be the realest rapper of all-time, but he's not far off.   The way Snoop came up and the kind of person Snoop is, there are many similarities with Pac.  This is also detailed for anyone who really wants to read up on it, Snoop has an excellent auto-biography out there—The Doggfather.  

So when you have faced certain realities in life without any pillow or cushion to fall upon then you can express reality in a way that others can't—provided you have the gift to articulate those experiences poetically.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 08, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
People need to stop making false prophets of these studio Gz

Again, what the fucc do you guys need to consider a rapper "real"?  I mean, according to the kind of standards your suggesting a rapper would already be dead or in prison before he could even have a career in rap.

Russel Simmons talks a lot about how when you look at history, it was the poets that people depended upon to speak about the reality of the times they lived in.  They were truth tellers, and they were able to express a reality that lay people could not articulate—but it existed.  2pac, for example, is the culmination of 400 years of slavery, Afeni can even recall her grandmothers history of being a slave.  As Fredrick Douglas said, "You are not judged from the height you have risen but from the depths you have climbed".  Pac both climbed from the depths and reached the heights.

The reason 2pac is the realest rapper that ever lived is that 2pac lived through some of the darkest realities in American history and he lived long enough to tell about it before being murdered himself.  And this is all documented.  There are a lot of great books detailing the reality of what 2pac went through.  Childhood friend Darrin Bastfield wrote a great book about Pac's life in Baltimore called "Back In The Day" and Micheal Eric Dyson wrote a great book "Holler If You Hear Me" about Pac's role as a poet, truth teller, and prophet of his time.  2pac truly was the rose that grew from the cracks of concrete and he was a hip-hop Prophet, and that poet that people will look at hundreds of years from now to understand life before the turn of the millennium.  

Snoop was a contemporary of 2pac, co-conspirator, 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted—and a lot of people may forget that it was actually Snoop who was the #1 rapper in the world in the mid-90's—and Pac was actually #2.  After Pac died, Pac then became the clear #1.  The point is that, Snoop may not be the realest rapper of all-time, but he's not far off.   The way Snoop came up and the kind of person Snoop is, there are many similarities with Pac.  This is also detailed for anyone who really wants to read up on it, Snoop has an excellent auto-biography out there—The Doggfather.  

So when you have faced certain realities in life without any pillow or cushion to fall upon then you can express reality in a way that others can't—provided you have the gift to articulate those experiences poetically.


their pillow to fall upon was love....they were both very close to their mothers. love is the strongest cushion. thats why u had a much harder and less fulfilling life than both pac and snoop.....but at the end of the day, i would not use that as a means to say you're realer or harder than them.


who u are comes from the soul....i know people who been through hella shit and, at the end of the day, theyre still punks. if you truly believe in God, you'll understand exactly what i'm sayin.
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 09, 2015, 08:03:59 AM



their pillow to fall upon was love....they were both very close to their mothers. love is the strongest cushion. thats why u had a much harder and less fulfilling life than both pac and snoop.....but at the end of the day, i would not use that as a means to say you're realer or harder than them.


who u are comes from the soul....i know people who been through hella shit and, at the end of the day, theyre still punks. if you truly believe in God, you'll understand exactly what i'm sayin.

Again... you don't know what your talking about... but I mean, why read books when you are in L.A. blazing kush and playing ball all day?  I probably wouldn't read books then either.

Snoop was actually kicked out of his mom's house.   His mom kicked him out of the house while he was still a teenager.  Snoop even had to spend many nights sleeping in his car.  And as for Pac, he was also out on his own, sleeping around from place to place as a teenager—his mom's addiction to crack was well documented.  I'm not saying his mom didn't love him, but saying that they had a soft cushion in life just because their moms loved them isn't saying much; a mothers natural instinct is to love, and it's very rare if that's not the case.  It's also funny that you somehow used that to suggest I didn't have my Mom's love.

Now.. does having a hard life coming up automatically make you harder or more real?  No.  But in the world of rap, if you have  the gift, and you are able to conquer harsh realities of life through the power of the word—that is what I'm talking about.  Using the power of the "word" to transcend the harsh realities of life. 
Title: Re: Just realized they were eatin P.I.G. at the last supper in 2 of Amerikaz Most Wa
Post by: Sccit on April 09, 2015, 10:29:20 AM



their pillow to fall upon was love....they were both very close to their mothers. love is the strongest cushion. thats why u had a much harder and less fulfilling life than both pac and snoop.....but at the end of the day, i would not use that as a means to say you're realer or harder than them.


who u are comes from the soul....i know people who been through hella shit and, at the end of the day, theyre still punks. if you truly believe in God, you'll understand exactly what i'm sayin.

Again... you don't know what your talking about... but I mean, why read books when you are in L.A. blazing kush and playing ball all day?  I probably wouldn't read books then either.

Snoop was actually kicked out of his mom's house.   His mom kicked him out of the house while he was still a teenager.  Snoop even had to spend many nights sleeping in his car.  And as for Pac, he was also out on his own, sleeping around from place to place as a teenager—his mom's addiction to crack was well documented.  I'm not saying his mom didn't love him, but saying that they had a soft cushion in life just because their moms loved them isn't saying much; a mothers natural instinct is to love, and it's very rare if that's not the case.  It's also funny that you somehow used that to suggest I didn't have my Mom's love.

Now.. does having a hard life coming up automatically make you harder or more real?  No.  But in the world of rap, if you have  the gift, and you are able to conquer harsh realities of life through the power of the word—that is what I'm talking about.  Using the power of the "word" to transcend the harsh realities of life. 

pac was In arts school and already touring with digital underground by the time he was a teen .. snoop already had a top album out under Dre when he was a teen. I just think these guys had a much better and more fulfilling life than you think, with plenty of "cushions" to fall on. like I said, I think you've lived a way tougher life than either of them, but I wouldn't say it makes you "harder" .. at the end of the day, who U are comes from within. Ice cube is a family man and frank ocean is not .. but which one is a faggot? when U read books that people write about themselves, of course they guna paint themselves in the best light they possibly can. it's human nature. its the same with the raps as it is with the books. what man doesn't embellish truths and talk themselves up? especially cats in hip-hop, where pride is an overwhelming factor.

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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 09, 2015, 10:52:25 AM

pac was In arts school and already touring with digital underground by the time he was a teen .. snoop already had a top album out under Dre when he was a teen. I just think these guys had a much better and more fulfilling life than you think, with plenty of "cushions" to fall on. like I said, I think you've lived a way tougher life than either of them, but I wouldn't say it makes you "harder" .. at the end of the day, who U are comes from within. Ice cube is a family man and frank ocean is not .. but which one is a faggot? when U read books that people write about themselves, of course they guna paint themselves in the best light they possibly can. it's human nature. its the same with the raps as it is with the books. what man doesn't embellish truths and talk themselves up? especially cats in hip-hop, where pride is an overwhelming factor.


lmao@using Pac's time with Digital Underground and Snoop's success with "Deep Cover" as evidence of them somehow having a "cushion" to fall on.  Pac didn't have Digital Underground handed to him by way of being born to wealthy parents.  Snoop didn't have "Deep Cover" handed to him by way of being born to wealthy parents.

Pac earned his connection with Digital Underground the hard way, he had been battling niccaz in the streets and rising up the ranks the hard-way since his days in Baltimore.  He spent thousands of hours rehearsing and practicing and this was all when he was still in Baltimore (btw, last I checked you wouldn't even accept a battle on blogtalkradio and have never actually battled another rapper in person).  Then once in the Bay he struggled with everything from being homeless, jobless, mom addicted to crack, never knew his father, surrounded by gangs, drugs, violence... and through all of it—through his own talent and strength of spirit he proved his worth and earned his connection to Digital Underground.

Same with Snoop... he went through similar trials and through the power of the "word" and his own strength of spirit he transcended his upbringing.  
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Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 09, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
damn this is funny. infant just cuz someone grows up in a bad neighborhood it doesnt make them hard. i remember on that snoop fatherhood show he tried to box and it looked like he had never been in a fight in his life. when he did a couple months in jail or whatever (which hes been bragging about ever since) u know he was shitting himself the whole time
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Post by: Blood$ on April 09, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
damn this is funny. infant just cuz someone grows up in a bad neighborhood it doesnt make them hard. i remember on that snoop fatherhood show he tried to box and it looked like he had never been in a fight in his life. when he did a couple months in jail or whatever (which hes been bragging about ever since) u know he was shitting himself the whole time

keep in mind he also thinks that going to the motherland Africa certifies him as African, his way of thinking is just different than ours
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Post by: Sccit on April 09, 2015, 01:05:55 PM

pac was In arts school and already touring with digital underground by the time he was a teen .. snoop already had a top album out under Dre when he was a teen. I just think these guys had a much better and more fulfilling life than you think, with plenty of "cushions" to fall on. like I said, I think you've lived a way tougher life than either of them, but I wouldn't say it makes you "harder" .. at the end of the day, who U are comes from within. Ice cube is a family man and frank ocean is not .. but which one is a faggot? when U read books that people write about themselves, of course they guna paint themselves in the best light they possibly can. it's human nature. its the same with the raps as it is with the books. what man doesn't embellish truths and talk themselves up? especially cats in hip-hop, where pride is an overwhelming factor.


lmao@using Pac's time with Digital Underground and Snoop's success with "Deep Cover" as evidence of them somehow having a "cushion" to fall on.  Pac didn't have Digital Underground handed to him by way of being born to wealthy parents.  Snoop didn't have "Deep Cover" handed to him by way of being born to wealthy parents.

Pac earned his connection with Digital Underground the hard way, he had been battling niccaz in the streets and rising up the ranks the hard-way since his days in Baltimore.  He spent thousands of hours rehearsing and practicing and this was all when he was still in Baltimore (btw, last I checked you wouldn't even accept a battle on blogtalkradio and have never actually battled another rapper in person).  Then once in the Bay he struggled with everything from being homeless, jobless, mom addicted to crack, never knew his father, surrounded by gangs, drugs, violence... and through all of it—through his own talent and strength of spirit he proved his worth and earned his connection to Digital Underground.

Same with Snoop... he went through similar trials and through the power of the "word" and his own strength of spirit he transcended his upbringing. 


again, u see these guys as Gods and prophets, so your vision is skewed. theyre literally your childhood superheros, and it shows....im not even talking about me here, but you keep makin it about me as if some underlying jealousy is consuming your soul. the point im making is that they already had a better life by their teens than your average dubcc poster has today. doesnt matter how they got it, the point is that they were livin it up in their early stages. youre in much more of a struggle in your 30s than snoop was at 19, but again, it doesnt make u harder....snoop knew the right people. if he wasn't friends with nate and warren g, he coulve very easily been your average strugglin rapper still tryna come up..... and if u wanna make it about me, i'm NOWHERE close to where I wanna be, so again, i duno where u keep getting this envious notion of me "living it up" and "having the time of my life smokin trees"....to be honest with you, i battle depression and bust my ass off every day tryna get this lamb shit to take off so that I can finally live comfortably...but your punkass doesnt see that, because you're so scared of bein cheddar bob that u speak about others based on your own emotions... like a straight sucker, bruh.


and stop bringin up the "bein handed shit by wealthy parents" bs....1.my parents are not wealthy enough to even cover their own bills and 2.what was i handed? .. i sleep at different pads from night to night.. i havent quite made it homie....my parents had me young as fuck, before they were ready, and didnt teach me shit growin up, literally. i was kicked out of schools, always got in trouble with the law, and basically lived in a mental hell tryna find myself..i play it cool, but i'm the angriest muthafucka u will ever meet, and i'm not even close to bein content. so fall back with that bitchass jealousy talk, unless u wanna come out here and see me about it. then i can show u what time it is....but until then, keep my name out your mouth..and yes, you ARE bein a cheddar bob. talkin about how i wont battle on blogtalk radio, u salty muthafucka...whenever ur done with ur indonesia trip, u can come out here and i'll battle u face to face. we can record it and put it on dubcc for every1 to see. the challenge has been issued, bob.


this isn't about other rappers for u......it's about me. you still feel some typa way about me, and you couldnt make it any more obvious. gayboy shit.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 09, 2015, 02:27:47 PM
infinite almost slit his wrist when Eminem apologized to his mom and admitted he was never as poor as he used to claim when he first got famous.
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Post by: jory on April 10, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice

Or the post I made about it a few months ago, why did u change you mind? U said u doubted it.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=312529.0


Also it's clear as fuck snoop was dissing biggie back in the day, shit I had on the house of blues dvd yesterday, laughs all the way through pac dissing the shit out of biggie. Also made it very clear he was from the west not the east.
On one of them wide awake releases he says something along the lines of "your fat, wack with one dead eye" mmmmmmmm who was he talking about???
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 10, 2015, 10:51:00 AM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice

Or the post I made about it a few months ago, why did u change you mind? U said u doubted it.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=312529.0


Also it's clear as fuck snoop was dissing biggie back in the day, shit I had on the house of blues dvd yesterday, laughs all the way through pac dissing the shit out of biggie. Also made it very clear he was from the west not the east.
On one of them wide awake releases he says something along the lines of "your fat, wack with one dead eye" mmmmmmmm who was he talking about???


i went back and listened to the song like 3 or 4 times in a row and then started thinking "well Big Syke's album was slated to be released when 2pac was still alive and he wasn't talking to Pac anymore allegedly - maybe this guy is right"


Syke didn't call Pac out by name prolly cuz he figured they would be boys again at some point in the future
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Post by: abusive on April 10, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice
There is a thread here that gives information about Pac and Syke falling out. In it it was said that Syke was suppose to wait it out and sign to Pac's label but Syke got impatient and went behind Pac's back and tried to get a deal with DR. The information goes on to say that Pac told his bodyguard Frank to handle Syke if he ever came around again.
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 10, 2015, 06:34:55 PM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice
There is a thread here that gives information about Pac and Syke falling out. In it it was said that Syke was suppose to wait it out and sign to Pac's label but Syke got impatient and went behind Pac's back and tried to get a deal with DR. The information goes on to say that Pac told his bodyguard Frank to handle Syke if he ever came around again.
Sounds like a common problem within much of Pac's camp. A lot of them wanted to get paid, get signed and/or blow up like Pac right away and grew extremely impatient, then they jumped the gun in some way.
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Post by: Black Excellence on April 12, 2015, 03:02:41 PM
one in the chamber for the anger that u build inside but you never ride.....
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Post by: MOBNigga06 on April 12, 2015, 10:27:29 PM
Big Syke's "Be yo self" song sounds a lot like a 2pac diss to me


funny how it took a dozen years for me to notice
There is a thread here that gives information about Pac and Syke falling out. In it it was said that Syke was suppose to wait it out and sign to Pac's label but Syke got impatient and went behind Pac's back and tried to get a deal with DR. The information goes on to say that Pac told his bodyguard Frank to handle Syke if he ever came around again.
Sounds like a common problem within much of Pac's camp. A lot of them wanted to get paid, get signed and/or blow up like Pac right away and grew extremely impatient, then they jumped the gun in some way.

Who else did Pac get mad at for this reason? The story about Syke is the only case of this that comes to mind for me, but perhaps I'm forgetting someone.
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 13, 2015, 05:12:00 AM
I think Fatal, but left the camp after Pac died.
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 13, 2015, 07:58:44 AM
Who else did Pac get mad at for this reason? The story about Syke is the only case of this that comes to mind for me, but perhaps I'm forgetting someone.
Mopreme, sort of. That's why he got his ass kicked at Death Row and didn't come back.
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 13, 2015, 08:01:22 AM
I think Fatal, but left the camp after Pac died.
Actually Fatal was loyal. In his interviews with hitemup, he said he was just happy to be there and was fine with putting in work for Pac (on the mic, on the streets, etc.) and didn't care too much about anything else, but he had mentioned that a lot of the other Outlawz were always really eager to get signed... hence them signing to Death Row after Pac died, even though he told them not to.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 13, 2015, 09:35:44 AM



again, u see these guys as Gods and prophets, so your vision is skewed. theyre literally your childhood superheros, and it shows....im not even talking about me here, but you keep makin it about me as if some underlying jealousy is consuming your soul. the point im making is that they already had a better life by their teens than your average dubcc poster has today. doesnt matter how they got it, the point is that they were livin it up in their early stages. youre in much more of a struggle in your 30s than snoop was at 19, but again, it doesnt make u harder....snoop knew the right people. if he wasn't friends with nate and warren g, he coulve very easily been your average strugglin rapper still tryna come up..... and if u wanna make it about me, i'm NOWHERE close to where I wanna be, so again, i duno where u keep getting this envious notion of me "living it up" and "having the time of my life smokin trees"....to be honest with you, i battle depression and bust my ass off every day tryna get this lamb shit to take off so that I can finally live comfortably...but your punkass doesnt see that, because you're so scared of bein cheddar bob that u speak about others based on your own emotions... like a straight sucker, bruh.


and stop bringin up the "bein handed shit by wealthy parents" bs....1.my parents are not wealthy enough to even cover their own bills and 2.what was i handed? .. i sleep at different pads from night to night.. i havent quite made it homie....my parents had me young as fuck, before they were ready, and didnt teach me shit growin up, literally. i was kicked out of schools, always got in trouble with the law, and basically lived in a mental hell tryna find myself..i play it cool, but i'm the angriest muthafucka u will ever meet, and i'm not even close to bein content. so fall back with that bitchass jealousy talk, unless u wanna come out here and see me about it. then i can show u what time it is....but until then, keep my name out your mouth..and yes, you ARE bein a cheddar bob. talkin about how i wont battle on blogtalk radio, u salty muthafucka...whenever ur done with ur indonesia trip, u can come out here and i'll battle u face to face. we can record it and put it on dubcc for every1 to see. the challenge has been issued, bob.


this isn't about other rappers for u......it's about me. you still feel some typa way about me, and you couldnt make it any more obvious. gayboy shit.

Fucc what you talkin about nicca...

All you mufuckaz on this thread saying that 2pac, Snoop, Dre, Daz ain't real... believe what you want, nobody can keep you from believing whatever the fucc you want... but for my money, I say YOU are the mufuckaz that ain't real.  And ya'll ain't in any kind of position to speak on legendz... fucc ya'll   8)
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 13, 2015, 09:52:45 AM
Scitt is out there doing shows with Joe Budden while Brian is out there in Indonesia picking up dead rat carcasses for dinner and missing America.


although nobody REALLY believes you left the country ;)
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 13, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Scitt is out there doing shows with Joe Budden while Brian is out there in Indonesia picking up dead rat carcasses for dinner and missing America.

That sounds pretty neato... sure would love to see the footage  ;)

although nobody REALLY believes you left the country ;)

Check my IP address dumbfuck
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 13, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
how can I check your IP address?  I'm not a moderator.



There is some footage in the G Spot  - it was taken by someone from this forum who was in the crowd.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 13, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
how can I check your IP address?  I'm not a moderator.


yeah faggot... your hero Sccit is a moderator though and he already checked it and vouched it.


There is some footage in the G Spot  - it was taken by someone from this forum who was in the crowd.

I don't see anything in G-Spot, may I please have a link so I can experience this first hand  :)
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Post by: Sccit on April 13, 2015, 12:53:11 PM
lol@"your hero sccit".....some ex-girlfriend shit



he sounds like cham did 3 years back, cynically asking for footage and shit lolsmh



just opened for WC on saturday and had another video shoot on sunday as well...cry me a river baby boo.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 13, 2015, 10:16:20 PM
how can I check your IP address?  I'm not a moderator.


yeah faggot... your hero Sccit is a moderator though and he already checked it and vouched it.


There is some footage in the G Spot  - it was taken by someone from this forum who was in the crowd.

I don't see anything in G-Spot, may I please have a link so I can experience this first hand  :)

Sccit, I'm glad you cut out the unloyal dudes like this from your circle
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Post by: Blood$ on April 13, 2015, 11:15:17 PM
Infinite, all clowning aside which crip set put you on?
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Post by: Remedy360 on April 14, 2015, 04:58:02 PM
The delusion on display here is just other worldly.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 15, 2015, 06:38:34 AM
Infinite, all clowning aside which crip set put you on?

he's part of the White Guilt Crips established 1984
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 24, 2015, 11:43:41 AM
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