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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on June 16, 2015, 08:49:36 PM
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when Lebron passes Kobe in points despite many less games: OMG LEBRON SUX HES AWFUL HES A BUM NOBODY LIKES HIM HES A JERK
when Lebron gets a 3rd ring: OMG HES TRASH WORST PLAYER EVER WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT HIM AT #56 ALL TIME CUZ HE'S NOT A LAKER
;D tell me i'm wrong
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SOME1 IS TRYIN REALLY HARD TO SAVE FACE RIGHT NOW LMAO
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SOME1 IS TRYIN REALLY HARD TO SAVE FACE RIGHT NOW LMAO
you told me that the Cavs had no chance - i'm shocked how they are so far in
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ARE U SHOCKED THAT IF LEBRON DIDN'T CHOKE IN GAME 1, THEY WOULDA HAD A 3-0 LEAD IN THE SERIES?
ARE U SHOCKED THAT HIS USAGE RATE IS THE SOLE REASON FOR HIS BIG NUMBERS??
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it's hard to choke when you are taking a team of 5-11 players against a 67 win team
of course watch for the Lakers excuse squadron
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BUT IF KOBE SHOT UNDER 40% ON THIS SORTA USAGE RATE "WAHHHH, KOBE SUCH A BALLHOGG, IT'S HIS FAULT HE COULDN'T GET HIS TEAMMATES INVOLVED AND KEPT CHUCKING AWAY!!!"........IGUODALA > LEBRON THIS SERIES. GET MAD.
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You'll hear my "excuse" right now. It looks like LeBron will pass Kobe baring injures and a complete fall off. Both are very likely to start happening soon, so don't speak too soon.
But if LeBron does pass Kobe with less games play, I'll say this:
1) Kobe had a lesser role in the late-90's than LeBron, as he played on a playoff team and LeBron didn't, therefore Kobe wasn't allowed to just get the ball and score and grow, he was restricted at first.
2) Most importantly, Kobe won more. That simple. He won with Shaq, he would without Shaq. He did whatever was necessary to win. LeBron never won without Wade and Bosh, and LeBron did it all but he didn't have the heart. LeBron is the greatest athlete I've ever seen play basketball, no one has been as fast and as strong, with that size. He's amazing. But something was always missing from him, he didn't have the stomach to go for the kill.
So in closing, LeBron can break any records he wants, he has not lived up to the hype and has not passed players like Kobe to get to that top tier of superstars. He's basically Karl Malone with a couple more rings.
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Kobe won more solely thanks to Shaq. without Shaq he'd just have the 2 titles - same as Bron Bron.
only a fool could argue Kobe would've won a title those 3 years if the Lakers had a generic big man and Shaq was on some other team
btw : i don't even remember making this thread. if i was sober last night i would've just put this in the Cleveland thread ;D
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Kobe won more solely thanks to Shaq. without Shaq he'd just have the 2 titles - same as Bron Bron.
only a fool could argue Kobe would've won a title those 3 years if the Lakers had a generic big man and Shaq was on some other team
btw : i don't even remember making this thread. if i was sober last night i would've just put this in the Cleveland thread ;D
Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo , but use that extra cap money to add depth, like say keep Eddie Jones and a good back up center like keeping Elden Campbell, and I would argue young Kobe would still win 3 titles, maybe not three peat, but in the beginning of the 2000's, the Lakers would have won 3 out of 5 titles.
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no. those teams aren't beating the Kings (not that the Shaq/Kobe did legitimately either) or the Spurs.
Plus what team is Shaq on? that's the favorite.
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no. those teams aren't beating the Kings (not that the Shaq/Kobe did legitimately either) or the Spurs.
Plus what team is Shaq on? that's the favorite.
We'll throw Shaq on the Magic, and if that happens, I highly doubt Charlotte lets Vlade walk because then need a big man to go against Shaq. Plus we'd have more cap space, we'd get players. Who's to say we don't sign Mike Bibby, or Turkoglu when he comes out of Europe. Lots of what ifs, and we had Jerry West, the best GM in all of basketball. And I still think we grab Phil to coach Kobe.
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MDOGG DEFENDING KOBE?? I FEEL LIKE IM IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE
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MDOGG DEFENDING KOBE?? I FEEL LIKE IM IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE
I always argued that people don't give 2000-2004 Kobe enough credit for the Lakers success. Starting with the 2000-2001 season, he could have averaged over 30ppg if he wanted too, he was hitting his stride and was just as important as Shaq. On top of all of that, I have full confidence that Jerry West, the genius he was, would have surrounded Kobe with the right talent to win it all. Plus, I don't think the Lakers get rid of Campbell had they never got Shaq, and if you look at the Lakers vs. Magic in 1995-1996, and then the Pistons vs. Lakers in 2004, Campbell was able to guard Shaq one on one. Elden is one of the most criminally underrated NBA centers in history, and he's one of the top 10 defensive centers in NBA history. Take that to the bank! Elden was able to guard Shaq one on one, even when Shaq was on the Magic and Elden was a Laker. You then relay of an oft-injured Penny to win the championship for the Magic, and the rest of the team was aging, you have a fresh Fisher coming off the bench, Kobe and Eddie on the wings and Horry doing everything at the 4, with Campbell holding Shaq one on one, the Lakers would have won 3 titles from 2000-2001 to 2004-2005.
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Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo
Bruh...stop. I just said you weren't a biased, poor educated NBA fan lmfaooooo.
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Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo
Bruh...stop. I just said you weren't a biased, poor educated NBA fan lmfaooooo.
BUT LEBRON AND DIKEMBE GETS IT DONE, HUH? U GROUPIE
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Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo
Bruh...stop. I just said you weren't a biased, poor educated NBA fan lmfaooooo.
One key to the Lakers, in those days Jerry West put together the teams. He is the one who put together the Warriors and stopped them from trading for Kevin Love. He would have gotten Kobe the right talent.
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ARE U SHOCKED THAT IF LEBRON DIDN'T CHOKE IN GAME 1, THEY WOULDA HAD A 3-0 LEAD IN THE SERIES?
ARE U SHOCKED THAT HIS USAGE RATE IS THE SOLE REASON FOR HIS BIG NUMBERS??
are you shocked that if either Love or Kyrie stays healthy they would of easily won it all? And damn near won it all without them?
no they wouldn't have....they won 2 games based on stephen curry choking. but lebron was choking just as bad. how many game winners did he miss in this series? like 4 or 5?? get off your soulja boy bumpin, skinny jean wearing, beta hero's nuts. u sposta be LA you faggot:
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m97karfeKb1qk4a0ho1_r1_500.jpg)
kindred spitirts...but u over here rooting for the jay-z of basketball just to spite me....good job, betta brian.
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Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo
Bruh...stop. I just said you weren't a biased, poor educated NBA fan lmfaooooo.
One key to the Lakers, in those days Jerry West put together the teams. He is the one who put together the Warriors and stopped them from trading for Kevin Love. He would have gotten Kobe the right talent.
Oh, so in reality you're not crediting Kobe for being able to threepeat with A LOT less? You gave a hypothetical roster that was way off, but you're really saying Jerry West would of gotten three players in place to make up for Shaq's 30 PPG, absolute freak in the middle impact & leading the Laker triangle? Alright, that's understandable.
That's like saying the Miami Heat could of won without Wade & Bosh...if they had...well lol...Kyrie Irving & Kevin Love lol.
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Replace Shaq with, say,Dikembe Mutombo
Bruh...stop. I just said you weren't a biased, poor educated NBA fan lmfaooooo.
One key to the Lakers, in those days Jerry West put together the teams. He is the one who put together the Warriors and stopped them from trading for Kevin Love. He would have gotten Kobe the right talent.
Oh, so in reality you're not crediting Kobe for being able to threepeat with A LOT less? You gave a hypothetical roster that was way off, but you're really saying Jerry West would of gotten three players in place to make up for Shaq's 30 PPG, absolute freak in the middle impact & leading the Laker triangle? Alright, that's understandable.
That's like saying the Miami Heat could of won without Wade & Bosh...if they had...well lol...Kyrie Irving & Kevin Love lol.
lebron needs at least 2 franchise players by his side to win...kobe did it with only 1 (2000-2002) and then 0 (09,10)
pau gasol would be rendered useless if he was lebron's second fiddle. you'd be on here crying about "for goodness sake, magic did it with kareem! jordan did it with pippen!! lebron has PAU FRICKIN GASOL!!!"....shits obvious as fuck.
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Just one lmfaoooo. Yeah, Shaq, who some consider a top 5 player in history, nobody considers him outside of the top 10.
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yea and just completely ignore the part about lebron bein the type to render gasol useless if they played together. stop that brodie.
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yea and just completely ignore the part about lebron bein the type to render gasol useless if they played together. stop that brodie.
Because that's your made up scenario that works for your argument. I'll give you Pau is worse than Kareem & Pippen, but Pau + the rest = 2nd best roster (Celtics big 4 #1) in the 2010 NBA by a landslide. You discredit Pau because he isn't that all-time, top 30 talent, but the Lakers roster was head & shoulders over everyone but the Celtics.
If you don't think this years West was a trillion times better than 2010 West, you're high as fuck right now. Kobe tiptoed to the Finals.
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yea and just completely ignore the part about lebron bein the type to render gasol useless if they played together. stop that brodie.
Because that's your made up scenario that works for your argument. I'll give you Pau is worse than Kareem & Pippen, but Pau + the rest = 2nd best roster (Celtics big 4 #1) in the 2010 NBA by a landslide. You discredit Pau because he isn't that all-time, top 30 talent, but the Lakers roster was head & shoulders over everyone but the Celtics.
If you don't think this years West was a trillion times better than 2010 West, you're high as fuck right now. Kobe tiptoed to the Finals.
THE LAKERS ROSTER WITH
DEREK FISHER
LUKE WALTON
OLD MAN ARTEST
PAU GASOL
SASHA VUJACIC
JORDAN FARMAR
ONE-LEGGED BYNUM
SHANNON BROWN
JOSH POWELL
LAMAR ODOM
DJ MBENGA
DO U EVEN LISTEN TO URSELF?
THAT TEAM WITHOUT KOBE WINS 12 GAMES MAX LMAO.....
AND BEATING A BUNCHA 50 WIN TEAMS EN-ROUTE TO THE FINALS IS A LITTLE MORE THAN "TIP-TOEING"....THE WEST HAS BEEN STACKED FOR SOME TIME NOW YOUNG'N
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It's probably been discussed 15 times this past month. I don't know what's so hard for you to understand that roster is 10 times better than Chris Paul's Hornets. Not even close to comparison.
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It's probably been discussed 15 times this past month. I don't know what's so hard for you to understand that roster is 10 times better than Chris Paul's Hornets. Not even close to comparison.
chris paul's hornets witout chris paul would also be a 12 win team in the west......but chris paul's horents never won shit, because chris paul aint kobe.
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Sccit could hold his own, five to one any day of the week, but catch him on the weak ends n he be crying for Lamar Odom to hook him up with a Kali konnect like he the kardishians long lost brother....
Sorry for losttalkin shit in the sports section...
I'll drag my tail back to the g spot on a train of thought...
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but catch him on the weak ends n he be crying for Lamar Odom to hook him up with a Kali konnect like he the kardishians long lost brother....
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wtf?? hahahahahahahha damn yo