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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: CORREA on July 29, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
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https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/drake-back-to-back-freestyle
still weak fake ass drake
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Shits on him though.
So happy there is beef. Meek better give us record back.
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Meek is going to take a huge loss on this whole thing
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Meek is going to take a huge loss on this whole thing
Agreed. However Drake should have said his name in the songs. It gives Week Mills a vit of amo that ge hasn't.
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surprised people think is weak. mad quotable material
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Even causal hip hop fans around here are freaking out about this. I listened to it..don't understand the significance.
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For me, the sheer shock of Drake taking the offensive with a a second straight song is what has me glued to it all. Also the fact that Meek is basically sitting like Papa Doc at the end of 8 Mile with nothing to say is funny as f to me. (He was supposed to turn in his diss to Hot97 on Monday then flaked on his word.)
And it's wild that Meek went at him without a song or at least some bars in the chamber. I hope he has the creativity to come back with something nice. We'll see.
"Trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers. You gettin bodied by a singing nigga", not to mention all the Nicki lines... The rapper regarded by many as the simp of all simps has reduced street dude Meek to exactly that: "shout out to all my boss bitches wifin' niggaz." Downright disrespectful, Iove that shit no matter whose mouth it comes from
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I wonder if Drake really was drunk when he "wrote" and recorded this....
Beef in the 90's ppl getting murdered, literally.....
Beef in 2015 ppl committing suicide after hearing this track....
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the fact that Drake had to huddle up his 12 writers to come with 2 weak disses just shows Meek won already lol can't wait for his response, whether the 'beef' is real or fake
Meek put the nail in Cassidy's coffin keep in mind 8)
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not a fan of drake by a long shot, but thats the hardest i ever heard him come
meek's career is on the line right now, every1 waiting on his next move
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not a fan of drake by a long shot, but thats the hardest i ever heard him come
meek's career is on the line right now, every1 waiting on his next move
9PM EST, hot97 should have his reply. Can listen to a stream at hot97.com, I think
Be patient tho. Gotta listen to Flex's nonsense for however long first before the song is actually dropped
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yyh2YpdXnA
Pretty dope how he sampled the Undertaker's theme song.
Shoulda kept it straight bars. No talking or sampling movies lol.
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"I just wanna know who was Quentin running through the 6 with" and "Puffy almost caught a domestic case when he smacked that bitch" :laugh:
I bet another track is coming soon, Meek might do to Drake what Em did to Benzino lol
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one of the weakest beefs ever
they should thank god they never went after Kendrick he can murder both of them in one song
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yyh2YpdXnA
Pretty dope how he sampled the Undertaker's theme song.
Shoulda kept it straight bars. No talking or sampling movies lol.
I was thinkin to use the undertaker theme as an intro couple days ago n then mill drops this shit. Fuckin muthafucka
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To think I used to wonder what was so special about Jay Z 15 years ago when he was getting all the hype. Shame on me. How does rap even still have fans when the debate on who's the best includes these clowns?
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Lol everyone n they mama shittin on mill right now
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Lol everyone n they mama shittin on mill right now
the internet is getting at him harder than Drake did though lol
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Lol everyone n they mama shittin on mill right now
the internet is getting at him harder than Drake did though lol
drake shitted on him, get over it bruh....meek took a week to come up wit this and the best part was the beat. and this is comin from some1 who thinks drake is a fruitcake.
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I finally listened to this…all the hype. I'm embarrassed that this is what ppl think is good nowadays….awful and whack and def not a freestyle.
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I finally listened to this…all the hype. I'm embarrassed that this is what ppl think is good nowadays….awful and whack and def not a freestyle.
I can only imagine what the twitter verse would have been like if it was around 20 years ago and Hit Em Up was released.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yyh2YpdXnA
Pretty dope how he sampled the Undertaker's theme song.
Shoulda kept it straight bars. No talking or sampling movies lol.
I was thinkin to use the undertaker theme as an intro couple days ago n then mill drops this shit. Fuckin muthafucka
Use the Kane theme 8)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yyh2YpdXnA
Pretty dope how he sampled the Undertaker's theme song.
Shoulda kept it straight bars. No talking or sampling movies lol.
I was thinkin to use the undertaker theme as an intro couple days ago n then mill drops this shit. Fuckin muthafucka
Use the Kane theme 8)
Undertaker is lowkey one of my childhood heroes......Kane was dope too, but not even close to as legendary.....Ima wear purple gloves to my next show ala undertaker early 90s.
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Meek killed his own career in one week. Damn.
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Shout out to my boss bitches wifen niggas
Meek loss.
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Meek killed his own career in one week. Damn.
Lol and he jus got dumped by nicki apparently
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yyh2YpdXnA
Pretty dope how he sampled the Undertaker's theme song.
Shoulda kept it straight bars. No talking or sampling movies lol.
I was thinkin to use the undertaker theme as an intro couple days ago n then mill drops this shit. Fuckin muthafucka
Use the Kane theme 8)
Undertaker is lowkey one of my childhood heroes......Kane was dope too, but not even close to as legendary.....Ima wear purple gloves to my next show ala undertaker early 90s.
I hear ya..that Kane theme was dope though, always thought that could be a good instrumental.
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Meek killed his own career in one week. Damn.
Lol and he jus got dumped by nicki apparently
never believe media takeout or TMZ lol
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Meek killed his own career in one week. Damn.
Lol and he jus got dumped by nicki apparently
never believe media takeout or TMZ lol
tmz always been 100
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Guess Meek and Nicki was still on, cuddling in front of the crowd.
Drake teased 3 Peat last night at OVO Fest. Of course basically daring Meek to come back at him. If 3 Peat is like Back to Back (B average diss song) and Meek comes with another lame track, Drake would kill Meek's career.
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If 3 Peat is like Back to Back (B average diss song) and Meek comes with another lame track, Drake would kill Meek's career.
not really lol neither one is killing anything... Drake fans (aka pop music fans) don't give a fuck about authenticity and Meek fans (real hip-hop heads) don't give ghost-written diss tracks a pass
I bet these dudes have had phone conversations laughing about all of this and will end up doing a song together by the end of this year or beginning of next
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If 3 Peat is like Back to Back (B average diss song) and Meek comes with another lame track, Drake would kill Meek's career.
not really lol neither one is killing anything... Drake fans (aka pop music fans) don't give a fuck about authenticity and Meek fans (real hip-hop heads) don't give ghost-written diss tracks a pass
I bet these dudes have had phone conversations laughing about all of this and will end up doing a song together by the end of this year or beginning of next
lol@meek fans bein real hip-hop heads....
guess u didnt see the backlash after both tracks dropped? u literally had preachers talkin shit on meek mill in church sermons. fuckin whattaburger dissing meek mill in burger advertisements.... meek looks like straight weaksauce right now, and while it might not end his career, him speakin on drake most definitely backfired and he's undeniably guna need some damage control movin forward.
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
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I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
I've been hearing that around a lot, as I said I don't see what was so great about the diss, but even casual fans are talking about it around here.
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
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I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
I've been hearing that around a lot, as I said I don't see what was so great about the diss, but even casual fans are talking about it around here.
"is that a world tour or your girls tour"
"this go out to all my boss bitches wifin niggaz...don't forget to hit em wit the prenup"
"this aint what she meant when she told u to open up more"
i mean, it's drake...the sweetest dude on the planet. and he came at him like that, u know meek felt some typa way bout them lines, and thats what a diss track sposta do....meek was strugglin to come up wit shit in his diss. it's not no vaseline, but drake did him dirty nonetheless, and theres really no denyin it.
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
celebrities and sponsors are getting a nice check from OVO for pushing the diss, don't believe all the hype... and those "quotable" are attributed to either Quentin Miller or someone else who helped Drake out lol the fact Drake is going so hard on Meek shows that he/his camp got shaken up and see him as a credible threat
I fuck with Meek but not as much as you might think, he has plenty of music I don't fuck with but his new album shits on anything Drake has ever released 8)
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
celebrities and sponsors are getting a nice check from OVO for pushing the diss, don't believe all the hype... and those "quotable" are attributed to either Quentin Miller or someone else who helped Drake out lol the fact Drake is going so hard on Meek shows that he/his camp got shaken up and see him as a credible threat
I fuck with Meek but not as much as you might think, he has plenty of music I don't fuck with but his new album shits on anything Drake has ever released 8)
Whether he wrote it or not is a whole nother story .. At the end of the day, meek took a huge L n prolly wishes he woulda never opened his mouth right about now
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Whether he wrote it or not is a whole nother story .. At the end of the day, meek took a huge L n prolly wishes he woulda never opened his mouth right about now
true even tho it was a weak beef cockroach man got the worse of it always knew he was garbage just hot trash loud mouth same thing would have happen to officer Ricky if he would of opened his mouth too but he knew his lane
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
celebrities and sponsors are getting a nice check from OVO for pushing the diss, don't believe all the hype... and those "quotable" are attributed to either Quentin Miller or someone else who helped Drake out lol the fact Drake is going so hard on Meek shows that he/his camp got shaken up and see him as a credible threat
I fuck with Meek but not as much as you might think, he has plenty of music I don't fuck with but his new album shits on anything Drake has ever released 8)
Whether he wrote it or not is a whole nother story .. At the end of the day, meek took a huge L n prolly wishes he woulda never opened his mouth right about now
it's not the end of the day though, Meek's second response is coming... he's just sitting back waiting for the perfect timing lol "Ether" didn't come out until months after "Takeover" and "Hit Em Up" took over a year to surface ;)
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
celebrities and sponsors are getting a nice check from OVO for pushing the diss, don't believe all the hype... and those "quotable" are attributed to either Quentin Miller or someone else who helped Drake out lol the fact Drake is going so hard on Meek shows that he/his camp got shaken up and see him as a credible threat
I fuck with Meek but not as much as you might think, he has plenty of music I don't fuck with but his new album shits on anything Drake has ever released 8)
Whether he wrote it or not is a whole nother story .. At the end of the day, meek took a huge L n prolly wishes he woulda never opened his mouth right about now
it's not the end of the day though, Meek's second response is coming... he's just sitting back waiting for the perfect timing lol "Ether" didn't come out until months after "Takeover" and "Hit Em Up" took over a year to surface ;)
u still comparing a shit rapper to a icon pac could have done hit em up in 10 minutes loud mouth cockroach man got put in his place for thinking hes more then he really is and there's no coming back
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
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Drake's groupies and the internet went in on Meek more than Drake did on wax... and I was just in the barbershop the other day where majority were sided with Meek, but you know that's just reality and the internet dictates all nowadays
I've heard far more people clowning Meek because of the memes than people actually saying "yo Drake went in on him"
bruh...back 2 back is a club banger now. meek cant even go clubbing no more lmao.
seriously, i duno what u talkin bout...every1 n they mama was praisin drake for goin in on meek. celebrities, athletes, sponsors...seriously. mad quotables in that diss, and thats comin from some1 who thinks drake is a queer, so im callin it like i see it foreal.
i can tell u a meek fan tho....lol
celebrities and sponsors are getting a nice check from OVO for pushing the diss, don't believe all the hype... and those "quotable" are attributed to either Quentin Miller or someone else who helped Drake out lol the fact Drake is going so hard on Meek shows that he/his camp got shaken up and see him as a credible threat
I fuck with Meek but not as much as you might think, he has plenty of music I don't fuck with but his new album shits on anything Drake has ever released 8)
Whether he wrote it or not is a whole nother story .. At the end of the day, meek took a huge L n prolly wishes he woulda never opened his mouth right about now
it's not the end of the day though, Meek's second response is coming... he's just sitting back waiting for the perfect timing lol "Ether" didn't come out until months after "Takeover" and "Hit Em Up" took over a year to surface ;)
oh no doubt, the problem with meek is that he was overhyping the diss like a mufucka, actin like he bout to end drake's career, announced it like 3 times before it asctually dropped...wit hitemup and ether, they jus dropped outa nowhere, no announcement and hype needed. so now, meek still can regain form by hittin us wit somethin hard outa left field....but i'm speakin as of now.
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Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
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Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
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Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
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Agreed!!!
But I don't wanna be one of them that starts saying " back in my day "" oh the kids of today "......
Damn, sposed I'll just have to keep listening to my old CDs....
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
dude no one ever gave a fuck about ghostwriters, and meek was mistaking when he thought they did....some of the biggest legends in hip-hop (eazy-e, snoop, etc) have been known to use ghostwriters...half of the rap songs u hear are ghostwritten. it's not a game-changer n no one gives a shit. tech n9ne has a legit skill-set and a supportive fan base who would shit all over drake and his fans. meek mill fans were big sean fans a week ago...they not loyal, they hop onto whatever hot rapper comes out next. on top of that, meek lacks skill to begin with. drake is actually more talented than meek mill, and drake is an industry plant lolsmh....but despit drake bein a soft female singer, when he put out "charged up", no one gave a fuck, cuz it was average at best. when back 2 back came out, u can tell off the bat that he was passionate bout the shit and was literally goin for the jugular...he was comin at meek wit a vengeance, and meek had nothin to say to that shit..."trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers" and now every1 callin meek twitter fingers. he went at him. it's not ether, it's not hitemup, and it's not no vaseline....but for drake of all people to come out swingin like that, it was definitely impressive for what it was, and when meek had nothin to say in his overhyped response, THAT was what sealed it....the memes were just a result of that, but every1 who was actually followin the beef and waitin for meek to drop his overhype shit when flex kept pump-faking knows that had meek dropped a hot diss record, drake would not be gettin all the hype he is right now..........i feel weird even followin this beef, but it's pretty much the biggest thing in hip-hop right now, so i was tryna see whats good (usually id just look away and not even pay attention), but i gained respect for drake and lost the little i had for meek. still wouldnt listen to neither of them, but if drake or meek drop another diss, ill listen wit an open mind. if meek can come wit a hot record, i'll be just as quick to tell it like it is. apparently drake got one he's sittin on called "threepeat"
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Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
dude no one ever gave a fuck about ghostwriters, and meek was mistaking when he thought they did....some of the biggest legends in hip-hop (eazy-e, snoop, etc) have been known to use ghostwriters...half of the rap songs u hear are ghostwritten. it's not a game-changer n no one gives a shit. tech n9ne has a legit skill-set and a supportive fan base who would shit all over drake and his fans. meek mill fans were big sean fans a week ago...they not loyal, they hop onto whatever hot rapper comes out next. on top of that, meek lacks skill to begin with. drake is actually more talented than meek mill, and drake is an industry plant lolsmh....but despit drake bein a soft female singer, when he put out "charged up", no one gave a fuck, cuz it was average at best. when back 2 back came out, u can tell off the bat that he was passionate bout the shit and was literally goin for the jugular...he was comin at meek wit a vengeance, and meek had nothin to say to that shit..."trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers" and now every1 callin meek twitter fingers. he went at him. it's not ether, it's not hitemup, and it's not no vaseline....but for drake of all people to come out swingin like that, it was definitely impressive for what it was, and when meek had nothin to say in his overhyped response, THAT was what sealed it....the memes were just a result of that, but every1 who was actually followin the beef and waitin for meek to drop his overhype shit when flex kept pump-faking knows that had meek dropped a hot diss record, drake would not be gettin all the hype he is right now..........i feel weird even followin this beef, but it's pretty much the biggest thing in hip-hop right now, so i was tryna see whats good (usually id just look away and not even pay attention), but i gained respect for drake and lost the little i had for meek. still wouldnt listen to neither of them, but if drake or meek drop another diss, ill listen wit an open mind. if meek can come wit a hot record, i'll be just as quick to tell it like it is. apparently drake got one he's sittin on called "threepeat"
I think the point your missing with ghostwriters is the status of the rapper with ghostwriters. Producers and CEO's of labels usually get a pass on ghostwriters. Eazy E owned NWA, and he even said on 8 Ball that Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say. Puffy talks about, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. Everyone knows DOC ghostwrote all of Dre's lyrics on the Chronic, and Kanye does not shy away from having ghostwriters. Snoop has talked in lengths about how in his younger days, him and the Dogg Pound would all write each others lyrics and Snoop would write a verse, and Kurupt would tell him to switch it up like this, or Snoop would tell Daz to talk about that. I personally don't mind Drake having a ghostwriter myself. To me, he's a pop singer who just happens to rap sometimes. But he tries to pass himself as a true MC, and 10-15 years ago, had it came out he used ghostwriters he'd be shitted out the game. But today's a different era.
As for Tech vs. Drake, it's never happening, why are we talking about it? Tech would never diss Drake, and Drake knows not to diss Tech. You think Drake is a fool. He never responded to Kendrick. He barely responded to Common, and that's because he caught feeling over Serena Williams. But he was quick to respond to Meek, as Meek is not a great rapper, or a lyricist. Drake knew that and went in. But let's not get it twisted, in 2013 after Control, I was about to write an editorial for DubCNN to Kendrick NOT to got to war with Drake, for one reason and one reason only, Drake's fans are over-obsessed girls who are blindly loyal to him and push social media to make the rest of the Hip-Hop world think that Drake won a battle even though he lost. Case in point, Common. They really made Common sound like he was the jealous one, when Sweet wasn't about Drake at all and Drake caught feelings because he was with Serena Williams at the time and Serena was on the news talking about how great of a guy Common was, and Common was her ex. Drake caught feeling and released Stay Schemin' remix and dissed Common and Vanessa Bryant for some reason, and his fans called it a win. Common responded way harder, but Drake's fans already swayed public perception.
Drake has an army of young girls on his side that no other rapper has. He's been in the game 5 years now, for Hip-Hop, that's a LONG time, and his fan base stays loyal to him. Straight up, Drake is the King of the soft dudes out there. And his fans love him for that.
So yeah. But now, in the aftermath of Ferguson and all the events the last year, I really think Kendrick and J. Cole have built up a large fan base that can rival Drake's. And it's one of the reason Drake is getting real friendly about Kendrick when 2 years ago he was talking about how he ain't his friend no more... LOL. Seriously, listen to Drake about Kendrick after Control, he sounded like a teenage girl who got dumped... LOL
Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
Meek's main point is he got butt hurt over RICO and thought Drake was commenting on his girl, who everyone thought Drake was hitting anyways.
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Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
he tried to do too much tho..he thought he was ending drake's career when he was really closer to ending his own
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
dude no one ever gave a fuck about ghostwriters, and meek was mistaking when he thought they did....some of the biggest legends in hip-hop (eazy-e, snoop, etc) have been known to use ghostwriters...half of the rap songs u hear are ghostwritten. it's not a game-changer n no one gives a shit. tech n9ne has a legit skill-set and a supportive fan base who would shit all over drake and his fans. meek mill fans were big sean fans a week ago...they not loyal, they hop onto whatever hot rapper comes out next. on top of that, meek lacks skill to begin with. drake is actually more talented than meek mill, and drake is an industry plant lolsmh....but despit drake bein a soft female singer, when he put out "charged up", no one gave a fuck, cuz it was average at best. when back 2 back came out, u can tell off the bat that he was passionate bout the shit and was literally goin for the jugular...he was comin at meek wit a vengeance, and meek had nothin to say to that shit..."trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers" and now every1 callin meek twitter fingers. he went at him. it's not ether, it's not hitemup, and it's not no vaseline....but for drake of all people to come out swingin like that, it was definitely impressive for what it was, and when meek had nothin to say in his overhyped response, THAT was what sealed it....the memes were just a result of that, but every1 who was actually followin the beef and waitin for meek to drop his overhype shit when flex kept pump-faking knows that had meek dropped a hot diss record, drake would not be gettin all the hype he is right now..........i feel weird even followin this beef, but it's pretty much the biggest thing in hip-hop right now, so i was tryna see whats good (usually id just look away and not even pay attention), but i gained respect for drake and lost the little i had for meek. still wouldnt listen to neither of them, but if drake or meek drop another diss, ill listen wit an open mind. if meek can come wit a hot record, i'll be just as quick to tell it like it is. apparently drake got one he's sittin on called "threepeat"
I think the point your missing with ghostwriters is the status of the rapper with ghostwriters. Producers and CEO's of labels usually get a pass on ghostwriters. Eazy E owned NWA, and he even said on 8 Ball that Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say. Puffy talks about, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. Everyone knows DOC ghostwrote all of Dre's lyrics on the Chronic, and Kanye does not shy away from having ghostwriters. Snoop has talked in lengths about how in his younger days, him and the Dogg Pound would all write each others lyrics and Snoop would write a verse, and Kurupt would tell him to switch it up like this, or Snoop would tell Daz to talk about that. I personally don't mind Drake having a ghostwriter myself. To me, he's a pop singer who just happens to rap sometimes. But he tries to pass himself as a true MC, and 10-15 years ago, had it came out he used ghostwriters he'd be shitted out the game. But today's a different era.
As for Tech vs. Drake, it's never happening, why are we talking about it? Tech would never diss Drake, and Drake knows not to diss Tech. You think Drake is a fool. He never responded to Kendrick. He barely responded to Common, and that's because he caught feeling over Serena Williams. But he was quick to respond to Meek, as Meek is not a great rapper, or a lyricist. Drake knew that and went in. But let's not get it twisted, in 2013 after Control, I was about to write an editorial for DubCNN to Kendrick NOT to got to war with Drake, for one reason and one reason only, Drake's fans are over-obsessed girls who are blindly loyal to him and push social media to make the rest of the Hip-Hop world think that Drake won a battle even though he lost. Case in point, Common. They really made Common sound like he was the jealous one, when Sweet wasn't about Drake at all and Drake caught feelings because he was with Serena Williams at the time and Serena was on the news talking about how great of a guy Common was, and Common was her ex. Drake caught feeling and released Stay Schemin' remix and dissed Common and Vanessa Bryant for some reason, and his fans called it a win. Common responded way harder, but Drake's fans already swayed public perception.
Drake has an army of young girls on his side that no other rapper has. He's been in the game 5 years now, for Hip-Hop, that's a LONG time, and his fan base stays loyal to him. Straight up, Drake is the King of the soft dudes out there. And his fans love him for that.
So yeah. But now, in the aftermath of Ferguson and all the events the last year, I really think Kendrick and J. Cole have built up a large fan base that can rival Drake's. And it's one of the reason Drake is getting real friendly about Kendrick when 2 years ago he was talking about how he ain't his friend no more... LOL. Seriously, listen to Drake about Kendrick after Control, he sounded like a teenage girl who got dumped... LOL
Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
Meek's main point is he got butt hurt over RICO and thought Drake was commenting on his girl, who everyone thought Drake was hitting anyways.
naah man, no one EVER cared about ghostwriters......the first rap single of all time was ghostwritten. lil kim was known as the top female rapper at one point, and biggie was writing all her stuff. snoop was a top 5 rapper in his prime, and was usin ghostwriters.....it just never was a big deal, period.
as for the tech n9ne point, all i was saying was that if a real rapper got into it wit drake, he could easily body him and make him look weaksauce....i know it's not guna happen, but i can be done.
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
dude no one ever gave a fuck about ghostwriters, and meek was mistaking when he thought they did....some of the biggest legends in hip-hop (eazy-e, snoop, etc) have been known to use ghostwriters...half of the rap songs u hear are ghostwritten. it's not a game-changer n no one gives a shit. tech n9ne has a legit skill-set and a supportive fan base who would shit all over drake and his fans. meek mill fans were big sean fans a week ago...they not loyal, they hop onto whatever hot rapper comes out next. on top of that, meek lacks skill to begin with. drake is actually more talented than meek mill, and drake is an industry plant lolsmh....but despit drake bein a soft female singer, when he put out "charged up", no one gave a fuck, cuz it was average at best. when back 2 back came out, u can tell off the bat that he was passionate bout the shit and was literally goin for the jugular...he was comin at meek wit a vengeance, and meek had nothin to say to that shit..."trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers" and now every1 callin meek twitter fingers. he went at him. it's not ether, it's not hitemup, and it's not no vaseline....but for drake of all people to come out swingin like that, it was definitely impressive for what it was, and when meek had nothin to say in his overhyped response, THAT was what sealed it....the memes were just a result of that, but every1 who was actually followin the beef and waitin for meek to drop his overhype shit when flex kept pump-faking knows that had meek dropped a hot diss record, drake would not be gettin all the hype he is right now..........i feel weird even followin this beef, but it's pretty much the biggest thing in hip-hop right now, so i was tryna see whats good (usually id just look away and not even pay attention), but i gained respect for drake and lost the little i had for meek. still wouldnt listen to neither of them, but if drake or meek drop another diss, ill listen wit an open mind. if meek can come wit a hot record, i'll be just as quick to tell it like it is. apparently drake got one he's sittin on called "threepeat"
I think the point your missing with ghostwriters is the status of the rapper with ghostwriters. Producers and CEO's of labels usually get a pass on ghostwriters. Eazy E owned NWA, and he even said on 8 Ball that Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say. Puffy talks about, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. Everyone knows DOC ghostwrote all of Dre's lyrics on the Chronic, and Kanye does not shy away from having ghostwriters. Snoop has talked in lengths about how in his younger days, him and the Dogg Pound would all write each others lyrics and Snoop would write a verse, and Kurupt would tell him to switch it up like this, or Snoop would tell Daz to talk about that. I personally don't mind Drake having a ghostwriter myself. To me, he's a pop singer who just happens to rap sometimes. But he tries to pass himself as a true MC, and 10-15 years ago, had it came out he used ghostwriters he'd be shitted out the game. But today's a different era.
As for Tech vs. Drake, it's never happening, why are we talking about it? Tech would never diss Drake, and Drake knows not to diss Tech. You think Drake is a fool. He never responded to Kendrick. He barely responded to Common, and that's because he caught feeling over Serena Williams. But he was quick to respond to Meek, as Meek is not a great rapper, or a lyricist. Drake knew that and went in. But let's not get it twisted, in 2013 after Control, I was about to write an editorial for DubCNN to Kendrick NOT to got to war with Drake, for one reason and one reason only, Drake's fans are over-obsessed girls who are blindly loyal to him and push social media to make the rest of the Hip-Hop world think that Drake won a battle even though he lost. Case in point, Common. They really made Common sound like he was the jealous one, when Sweet wasn't about Drake at all and Drake caught feelings because he was with Serena Williams at the time and Serena was on the news talking about how great of a guy Common was, and Common was her ex. Drake caught feeling and released Stay Schemin' remix and dissed Common and Vanessa Bryant for some reason, and his fans called it a win. Common responded way harder, but Drake's fans already swayed public perception.
Drake has an army of young girls on his side that no other rapper has. He's been in the game 5 years now, for Hip-Hop, that's a LONG time, and his fan base stays loyal to him. Straight up, Drake is the King of the soft dudes out there. And his fans love him for that.
So yeah. But now, in the aftermath of Ferguson and all the events the last year, I really think Kendrick and J. Cole have built up a large fan base that can rival Drake's. And it's one of the reason Drake is getting real friendly about Kendrick when 2 years ago he was talking about how he ain't his friend no more... LOL. Seriously, listen to Drake about Kendrick after Control, he sounded like a teenage girl who got dumped... LOL
Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
Meek's main point is he got butt hurt over RICO and thought Drake was commenting on his girl, who everyone thought Drake was hitting anyways.
naah man, no one EVER cared about ghostwriters......the first rap single of all time was ghostwritten. lil kim was known as the top female rapper at one point, and biggie was writing all her stuff. snoop was a top 5 rapper in his prime, and was usin ghostwriters.....it just never was a big deal, period.
as for the tech n9ne point, all i was saying was that if a real rapper got into it wit drake, he could easily body him and make him look weaksauce....i know it's not guna happen, but i can be done.
Well i think it's the lane of the rapper. No one in the hip-hop community respected Sugar Hill Gang for that, and Lil' Kim was only seen as a sex symbol and only the Source liked her because she was sleeping with one of the editors. Once it was mentioned Snoop had ghostwriters in the late-90's and 2000's, he was removed from all greatest of all time talks. People still dug his music, but he wasn't respected as an MC. But Snoop was also a huge star by that time and he admitted to the Death Row days of writing, but him and Kurupt sharing lines and bars to make their verses sound better. And it showed because once Snoop went to No Limit and Kurupt left Death Row, both of their raps fell off hard in the late-90's.
Within the community, depending on who you are, they care, mainstream fans don't, never have, but the community cares. They just don't care about Drake having writers. Simply put, he's not seen as a lyricist like Nas, Kendrick, Rakim, or anyone in that lane. So no one cares. And all the ghostwriter talk will do is remove him from greatest of all time conversations. And let's not act like Eazy E, Dr. Dre, Puff Daddy, Snoop Dogg, Kanye West, Foxy Brown, and Lil' Kim are all in the GOAT conversation. Hell, they aren't in no one's top 25 conversations.
So yeah, but this much is true, Drake may have a team of ghostwriters, he still beat Meek Mills dumb ass.
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Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
Lyrically I'd agree wholeheartedly. But in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways. Plus Tech would rather get Drake on a hook than battle him.
Tech does have his army of Technicians though that would probably do equivalent damage on social media to Drake as his stans are to Meek lol plus Tech has as much $ as Drake does
true but i dont think drake will even entertain a beef with tech he chooses his battles and know who to fuck with and who not cockroach man was a easy target and thats why u see drake cocky note drake wasn't like this when the Kendrick thing happen once you take away the loud mouth trash from cockroach man its over
Yeah, Drake spent the end of 2013 talking mess in interviews about Kendrick, but never had just one good diss. A couple of subliminal disses, but Kendrick replied with his own little subliminal disses and Drake just backed off. He knows who to go at. He wouldn't attack Tech, Tech has a 20 year career.
Speaking on guns and street shit don't make you real hip-hop, or have hip-hop heads like you. Meek is weak as a rapper in general. He's not that smart as shown by this battle, and his fan base is too small to battle someone like Drake and his 30 million little girls who follow him. There are only a few rappers with the capital to battle Drake, I'd say two. J. Cole and Kendrick are the only two I think could battle Drake and have enough "Real Hip-Hop" cred to have the hip-hop heads on their side. Everyone else, their arms are too short to box with God. Drake in the grand scheme of things is not a top 25 rapper, and if the ghostwriting allegation is true, he'll never be mentioned in the list with the greats. But, he's got a HUGE following and you should attack with extreme caution or you'll get your career ended.
Before you can go to war with the US, you better load up your arsenal. Drake was in a tank (his fan base), Meek was throwing rocks. Not going to do it. The only way you can hang with a bigger rapper is if that rapper attacks you (make them swing down instead of you swinging up) because it makes them look small. But Drake is too smart for that.
naah some1 wit actual skill like tech n9ne could destroy drake in a battle, wit or witout the same following.
in today's game with social media and the memes, and all of that, Drake will be unfazed and everyone will claim Drake the winner anyways.
bullshit
This dude just got exposed for using ghostwriter and no one cares. Hell, 5 years ago that's career death. Now, no one cares if Drake has a ghostwriter. Basically, Drake is at a point that the public supports him no matter what. And he gots an army of millions of girls ready to make memes, he seriously killed Meek with a power point. The same shit teachers use to put students to sleep, Drake used to kill Meeks career. Sadly, the rules have changed.
Are you all like 15 or what???
This is like two school girls fighting over a skipping rope compared to PAC n Biggie's beef!!!!
I'm just tripping that anyone thinks this is worthy of a mention.....
You got an rnb singer going up against a mediocre rapper n the majority of their fanbase has a curfew!!!
I think its time you boys put this beef to bed....
Make sure ya tuck it in nice n tight!
it's a weak battle overall but it raises interesting points thus causing a discussion, why you mad though?
Cos its weak, n I don't see it worthy of second listen, either track, sure I could debate the relevance of about 4-5 bars but seriously, overall ya got two weak school yard rhymes n its the fucking big leagues....
I preffered it in the 90's when beef was lyrical assanination compared to now, when its one pretentious barb after another....
It ain't the 90's no more. I was a teenager then, and it was great. But sometimes you have to move on. Right now hip-hop is missing real men. Before rappers maybe younger then, but they manned up and handled shit. Now, these rappers are soft, and the whole game is soft. But it's a reflection of society, this generation is just softer in general. It is what it is.
dude no one ever gave a fuck about ghostwriters, and meek was mistaking when he thought they did....some of the biggest legends in hip-hop (eazy-e, snoop, etc) have been known to use ghostwriters...half of the rap songs u hear are ghostwritten. it's not a game-changer n no one gives a shit. tech n9ne has a legit skill-set and a supportive fan base who would shit all over drake and his fans. meek mill fans were big sean fans a week ago...they not loyal, they hop onto whatever hot rapper comes out next. on top of that, meek lacks skill to begin with. drake is actually more talented than meek mill, and drake is an industry plant lolsmh....but despit drake bein a soft female singer, when he put out "charged up", no one gave a fuck, cuz it was average at best. when back 2 back came out, u can tell off the bat that he was passionate bout the shit and was literally goin for the jugular...he was comin at meek wit a vengeance, and meek had nothin to say to that shit..."trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers" and now every1 callin meek twitter fingers. he went at him. it's not ether, it's not hitemup, and it's not no vaseline....but for drake of all people to come out swingin like that, it was definitely impressive for what it was, and when meek had nothin to say in his overhyped response, THAT was what sealed it....the memes were just a result of that, but every1 who was actually followin the beef and waitin for meek to drop his overhype shit when flex kept pump-faking knows that had meek dropped a hot diss record, drake would not be gettin all the hype he is right now..........i feel weird even followin this beef, but it's pretty much the biggest thing in hip-hop right now, so i was tryna see whats good (usually id just look away and not even pay attention), but i gained respect for drake and lost the little i had for meek. still wouldnt listen to neither of them, but if drake or meek drop another diss, ill listen wit an open mind. if meek can come wit a hot record, i'll be just as quick to tell it like it is. apparently drake got one he's sittin on called "threepeat"
I think the point your missing with ghostwriters is the status of the rapper with ghostwriters. Producers and CEO's of labels usually get a pass on ghostwriters. Eazy E owned NWA, and he even said on 8 Ball that Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say. Puffy talks about, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. Everyone knows DOC ghostwrote all of Dre's lyrics on the Chronic, and Kanye does not shy away from having ghostwriters. Snoop has talked in lengths about how in his younger days, him and the Dogg Pound would all write each others lyrics and Snoop would write a verse, and Kurupt would tell him to switch it up like this, or Snoop would tell Daz to talk about that. I personally don't mind Drake having a ghostwriter myself. To me, he's a pop singer who just happens to rap sometimes. But he tries to pass himself as a true MC, and 10-15 years ago, had it came out he used ghostwriters he'd be shitted out the game. But today's a different era.
As for Tech vs. Drake, it's never happening, why are we talking about it? Tech would never diss Drake, and Drake knows not to diss Tech. You think Drake is a fool. He never responded to Kendrick. He barely responded to Common, and that's because he caught feeling over Serena Williams. But he was quick to respond to Meek, as Meek is not a great rapper, or a lyricist. Drake knew that and went in. But let's not get it twisted, in 2013 after Control, I was about to write an editorial for DubCNN to Kendrick NOT to got to war with Drake, for one reason and one reason only, Drake's fans are over-obsessed girls who are blindly loyal to him and push social media to make the rest of the Hip-Hop world think that Drake won a battle even though he lost. Case in point, Common. They really made Common sound like he was the jealous one, when Sweet wasn't about Drake at all and Drake caught feelings because he was with Serena Williams at the time and Serena was on the news talking about how great of a guy Common was, and Common was her ex. Drake caught feeling and released Stay Schemin' remix and dissed Common and Vanessa Bryant for some reason, and his fans called it a win. Common responded way harder, but Drake's fans already swayed public perception.
Drake has an army of young girls on his side that no other rapper has. He's been in the game 5 years now, for Hip-Hop, that's a LONG time, and his fan base stays loyal to him. Straight up, Drake is the King of the soft dudes out there. And his fans love him for that.
So yeah. But now, in the aftermath of Ferguson and all the events the last year, I really think Kendrick and J. Cole have built up a large fan base that can rival Drake's. And it's one of the reason Drake is getting real friendly about Kendrick when 2 years ago he was talking about how he ain't his friend no more... LOL. Seriously, listen to Drake about Kendrick after Control, he sounded like a teenage girl who got dumped... LOL
Meek's main point from the jump though was simply don't compare him to a dude like Drake since he doesn't write his own raps... Drake is comparable to guys like Kanye and Diddy where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
Meek's main point is he got butt hurt over RICO and thought Drake was commenting on his girl, who everyone thought Drake was hitting anyways.
naah man, no one EVER cared about ghostwriters......the first rap single of all time was ghostwritten. lil kim was known as the top female rapper at one point, and biggie was writing all her stuff. snoop was a top 5 rapper in his prime, and was usin ghostwriters.....it just never was a big deal, period.
as for the tech n9ne point, all i was saying was that if a real rapper got into it wit drake, he could easily body him and make him look weaksauce....i know it's not guna happen, but i can be done.
Well i think it's the lane of the rapper. No one in the hip-hop community respected Sugar Hill Gang for that, and Lil' Kim was only seen as a sex symbol and only the Source liked her because she was sleeping with one of the editors. Once it was mentioned Snoop had ghostwriters in the late-90's and 2000's, he was removed from all greatest of all time talks. People still dug his music, but he wasn't respected as an MC. But Snoop was also a huge star by that time and he admitted to the Death Row days of writing, but him and Kurupt sharing lines and bars to make their verses sound better. And it showed because once Snoop went to No Limit and Kurupt left Death Row, both of their raps fell off hard in the late-90's.
Within the community, depending on who you are, they care, mainstream fans don't, never have, but the community cares. They just don't care about Drake having writers. Simply put, he's not seen as a lyricist like Nas, Kendrick, Rakim, or anyone in that lane. So no one cares. And all the ghostwriter talk will do is remove him from greatest of all time conversations. And let's not act like Eazy E, Dr. Dre, Puff Daddy, Snoop Dogg, Kanye West, Foxy Brown, and Lil' Kim are all in the GOAT conversation. Hell, they aren't in no one's top 25 conversations.
So yeah, but this much is true, Drake may have a team of ghostwriters, he still beat Meek Mills dumb ass.
is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
As I said, depends on their lane. Cube wrote all of NWA except Ren and his early solo stuff which was considered his best stuff. The stuff written by Short Khop is when he already was a Hollywood star. So no one counts that against Cube. He was a boss. He wrote checks.
Editting rhymes, like Nas, Snoop, that has never been looked down. Early Snoop could freestyle his ass off, and early Nas was crazy at writing rhymes. Besides, when Nas went solo, it was all Nas. That's what counts.
I've never seen Ghostface in anyone's top 10, 25, or 50. Method Man penned his biggest single ever. I've seen Method Man in many people's top 10, but never Ghostface. And that's okay. I love Ghostface.
One thing I will say, I did put Snoop in my top 15 many times I've listed my top 15, which "Real Hip-Hop Heads" on here got mad at me. So I'm with you Sccit on that. I usually only look at Death Row Snoop, because that's when he wrote his shit and Kurupt and him traded bars. I think that's the difference. Your bars don't have to be all yours, but you have to have some part in writing it.
You can go case by case, but at the end of the day, fans don't care. Fans only care if the song is good. Drake is in the same lane as Ma$e, Wyclef, Ol' DB, and others who are entertainers. He's a singer who just happens to rap. Nothing wrong with that. The fans don't care, I don't care, I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I care. It's like, I never had Drake in my top 25 MC's of all time, so this really does nothing.
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
J. Cole and Kendrick are basically the top two dudes of this generation of rappers. Like my boy said, Cole and K Dot are the only ones today that are NBA All Stars, everyone else is playing NCAA ball and Drake is in the tourny and Meek is D-III. But no one is good enough for the league today.
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
J. Cole and Kendrick are basically the top two dudes of this generation of rappers. Like my boy said, Cole and K Dot are the only ones today that are NBA All Stars, everyone else is playing NCAA ball and Drake is in the tourny and Meek is D-III. But no one is good enough for the league today.
there are others that can make the team they just missing somethings
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
J. Cole and Kendrick are basically the top two dudes of this generation of rappers. Like my boy said, Cole and K Dot are the only ones today that are NBA All Stars, everyone else is playing NCAA ball and Drake is in the tourny and Meek is D-III. But no one is good enough for the league today.
there are others that can make the team they just missing somethings
Yeah, a couple almost ready to get drafted in the league, Wale is missing something, Big Sean is something. But yeah.
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
J. Cole and Kendrick are basically the top two dudes of this generation of rappers. Like my boy said, Cole and K Dot are the only ones today that are NBA All Stars, everyone else is playing NCAA ball and Drake is in the tourny and Meek is D-III. But no one is good enough for the league today.
there are others that can make the team they just missing somethings
Yeah, a couple almost ready to get drafted in the league, Wale is missing something, Big Sean is something. But yeah.
wale lol
big sean maybe i lost all respect for him after control but right now hes not ready
meek tried to make the big time but due to permanent injury he might not come back ;D
drake as much as i dislike him he prob belongs in the all star team
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where as you can compare Meek to J. Cole or Kendrick (even if they're obviously better) since they are their own artist
that is pure disrespect roach man belongs in the garbage section J. Cole or Kendrick will end him in one song
J. Cole and Kendrick are basically the top two dudes of this generation of rappers. Like my boy said, Cole and K Dot are the only ones today that are NBA All Stars, everyone else is playing NCAA ball and Drake is in the tourny and Meek is D-III. But no one is good enough for the league today.
there are others that can make the team they just missing somethings
Yeah, a couple almost ready to get drafted in the league, Wale is missing something, Big Sean is something. But yeah.
wale lol
big sean maybe i lost all respect for him after control but right now hes not ready
meek tried to make the big time but due to permanent injury he might not come back ;D
drake as much as i dislike him he prob belongs in the all star team
Wale just bores me. I mean, I know he is has bars, but he just bores the hell out of me. I can't get through his whole album without wanting to fall asleep. I don't know what it is.
Big Sean, he's nice, but his awareness rating would be way down. Like, he can't make the moves of a big time player.
Drake, I think he might get drafted... LOL. He's like Christian Laettner. He has all the tools to be the greatest college basketball player ever, but he doesn't have the tools to make it to the big time. But man, Drake is Christian Laettner at Duke. Everyone hates him, but you can't deny him. He even got to play with the Dream Team when he works with Jay-Z and those legends.
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
As I said, depends on their lane. Cube wrote all of NWA except Ren and his early solo stuff which was considered his best stuff. The stuff written by Short Khop is when he already was a Hollywood star. So no one counts that against Cube. He was a boss. He wrote checks.
Editting rhymes, like Nas, Snoop, that has never been looked down. Early Snoop could freestyle his ass off, and early Nas was crazy at writing rhymes. Besides, when Nas went solo, it was all Nas. That's what counts.
I've never seen Ghostface in anyone's top 10, 25, or 50. Method Man penned his biggest single ever. I've seen Method Man in many people's top 10, but never Ghostface. And that's okay. I love Ghostface.
One thing I will say, I did put Snoop in my top 15 many times I've listed my top 15, which "Real Hip-Hop Heads" on here got mad at me. So I'm with you Sccit on that. I usually only look at Death Row Snoop, because that's when he wrote his shit and Kurupt and him traded bars. I think that's the difference. Your bars don't have to be all yours, but you have to have some part in writing it.
You can go case by case, but at the end of the day, fans don't care. Fans only care if the song is good. Drake is in the same lane as Ma$e, Wyclef, Ol' DB, and others who are entertainers. He's a singer who just happens to rap. Nothing wrong with that. The fans don't care, I don't care, I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I care. It's like, I never had Drake in my top 25 MC's of all time, so this really does nothing.
Im starting to think you're not a real hip hop head... No offense, I like you, but just sayin.
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
As I said, depends on their lane. Cube wrote all of NWA except Ren and his early solo stuff which was considered his best stuff. The stuff written by Short Khop is when he already was a Hollywood star. So no one counts that against Cube. He was a boss. He wrote checks.
Editting rhymes, like Nas, Snoop, that has never been looked down. Early Snoop could freestyle his ass off, and early Nas was crazy at writing rhymes. Besides, when Nas went solo, it was all Nas. That's what counts.
I've never seen Ghostface in anyone's top 10, 25, or 50. Method Man penned his biggest single ever. I've seen Method Man in many people's top 10, but never Ghostface. And that's okay. I love Ghostface.
One thing I will say, I did put Snoop in my top 15 many times I've listed my top 15, which "Real Hip-Hop Heads" on here got mad at me. So I'm with you Sccit on that. I usually only look at Death Row Snoop, because that's when he wrote his shit and Kurupt and him traded bars. I think that's the difference. Your bars don't have to be all yours, but you have to have some part in writing it.
You can go case by case, but at the end of the day, fans don't care. Fans only care if the song is good. Drake is in the same lane as Ma$e, Wyclef, Ol' DB, and others who are entertainers. He's a singer who just happens to rap. Nothing wrong with that. The fans don't care, I don't care, I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I care. It's like, I never had Drake in my top 25 MC's of all time, so this really does nothing.
Im starting to think you're not a real hip hop head... No offense, I like you, but just sayin.
All these years and you think I'm not a real hip-hop head? LMFAO!
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
As I said, depends on their lane. Cube wrote all of NWA except Ren and his early solo stuff which was considered his best stuff. The stuff written by Short Khop is when he already was a Hollywood star. So no one counts that against Cube. He was a boss. He wrote checks.
Editting rhymes, like Nas, Snoop, that has never been looked down. Early Snoop could freestyle his ass off, and early Nas was crazy at writing rhymes. Besides, when Nas went solo, it was all Nas. That's what counts.
I've never seen Ghostface in anyone's top 10, 25, or 50. Method Man penned his biggest single ever. I've seen Method Man in many people's top 10, but never Ghostface. And that's okay. I love Ghostface.
One thing I will say, I did put Snoop in my top 15 many times I've listed my top 15, which "Real Hip-Hop Heads" on here got mad at me. So I'm with you Sccit on that. I usually only look at Death Row Snoop, because that's when he wrote his shit and Kurupt and him traded bars. I think that's the difference. Your bars don't have to be all yours, but you have to have some part in writing it.
You can go case by case, but at the end of the day, fans don't care. Fans only care if the song is good. Drake is in the same lane as Ma$e, Wyclef, Ol' DB, and others who are entertainers. He's a singer who just happens to rap. Nothing wrong with that. The fans don't care, I don't care, I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I care. It's like, I never had Drake in my top 25 MC's of all time, so this really does nothing.
Im starting to think you're not a real hip hop head... No offense, I like you, but just sayin.
All these years and you think I'm not a real hip-hop head? LMFAO!
I know personally that many east coast heads got ghost in their top 5 ... N u just spoke on him like he was warren g on the mic .. Caught me off guard
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
As I said, depends on their lane. Cube wrote all of NWA except Ren and his early solo stuff which was considered his best stuff. The stuff written by Short Khop is when he already was a Hollywood star. So no one counts that against Cube. He was a boss. He wrote checks.
Editting rhymes, like Nas, Snoop, that has never been looked down. Early Snoop could freestyle his ass off, and early Nas was crazy at writing rhymes. Besides, when Nas went solo, it was all Nas. That's what counts.
I've never seen Ghostface in anyone's top 10, 25, or 50. Method Man penned his biggest single ever. I've seen Method Man in many people's top 10, but never Ghostface. And that's okay. I love Ghostface.
One thing I will say, I did put Snoop in my top 15 many times I've listed my top 15, which "Real Hip-Hop Heads" on here got mad at me. So I'm with you Sccit on that. I usually only look at Death Row Snoop, because that's when he wrote his shit and Kurupt and him traded bars. I think that's the difference. Your bars don't have to be all yours, but you have to have some part in writing it.
You can go case by case, but at the end of the day, fans don't care. Fans only care if the song is good. Drake is in the same lane as Ma$e, Wyclef, Ol' DB, and others who are entertainers. He's a singer who just happens to rap. Nothing wrong with that. The fans don't care, I don't care, I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I care. It's like, I never had Drake in my top 25 MC's of all time, so this really does nothing.
Im starting to think you're not a real hip hop head... No offense, I like you, but just sayin.
All these years and you think I'm not a real hip-hop head? LMFAO!
I know personally that many east coast heads got ghost in their top 5 ... N u just spoke on him like he was warren g on the mic .. Caught me off guard
Oh, don't get it twisted, I love Ghostface. But when I put a list together I rank other members of the Wu over him, namely Method Man, Raekwon and GZA. You add all the other rappers and I've never had him in my top 25, even before he admitted to ghostwriters. But Ghost is nice, I bought his physical CD's and bump them everywhere. Amazing voice and his first album was a near classic. And yeah, I wouldn't compare him to Warren, Warren is very clumsy on the mic. Ghost is like the Wu's Ma$e. Dude was amazing, can write for others (Ma$e even ghostwrote Big L songs) as well as had songs written for him. I just never had him in my top 25 mainly because he was always overshadowed by others in the Wu.
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
I don't personally care much for who wrote what for who and who wrote it themselves. Its what you're [raised for. Its like Whitney not writing I Will Always Love You. She was never heralded for the story of the song, but for her ability to hit the right notes at the right time. Snoop's lyrics were never profound enough to matter if he wrote them. It was his style of rapping that made him a star. Even if Tupac didn't write Hit Em Up (not that anyone is making that accusation) it takes more talent to rap it the way he did than it does to write those rhymes.
But Drake? He's simply not very good. I find it a joke that he needs concept tracks because the tracks suck. And people need to stop with all thw bullshit of him being successful. He's not! Given all his media hypoe and twitter following he still can't get over 2 million sales. 3 albums 4 million total sales. Don't blame the age, or the new market, blame the shit that's being sold as music. One of the biggest stars in music and he can't sell more than Dogg Food? Give Daz and Kurupt the kind of media attention Drake gets and they'd have gone diamond.
The kid can't even pack up the skydome. Bruce Springsteen is 3 times Drake's age, was never pushed by the media as hard as Drake is now, releases a compilation album of unreleased songs, none are hits, tours half the number of cities and generates almost two times the revenue with lower ticket prices. You know why? Because more people come to see talent than will ever come to see hype.
Drake's at his absolute peak and this is the best he can do? He's a 100% media creation. These millions upon millions of fans and followers he has don't even like him enough to buy his albums.
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I can't believe y'all mentioned cube, snoop or anyone of that status in a fucking debate about drake, meek mill n wether they do or do not have skills in song writing.....
You could compare the fact that cube n drake r both successful actors/musicians that assume roles in both film n music that do not reflect their reality, but seriously.... This convoy has gone way off track.....
Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
My mother listens to him, I'll ask her about it...
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is ice cube no longer respected as an emcee because short khop used to ghostwrite for him?
is nas no longer respected as an emcee because large professor admitted he would edit his rhymes?
is ghostface no longer a respected emcee because he admitted raekwon wrote some of his rhymes?
snoop, eazy, and cube still one of the top west coast rappers ever.
no one cares, mdoggy...u doin too much.
I don't personally care much for who wrote what for who and who wrote it themselves. Its what you're [raised for. Its like Whitney not writing I Will Always Love You. She was never heralded for the story of the song, but for her ability to hit the right notes at the right time. Snoop's lyrics were never profound enough to matter if he wrote them. It was his style of rapping that made him a star. Even if Tupac didn't write Hit Em Up (not that anyone is making that accusation) it takes more talent to rap it the way he did than it does to write those rhymes.
But Drake? He's simply not very good. I find it a joke that he needs concept tracks because the tracks suck. And people need to stop with all thw bullshit of him being successful. He's not! Given all his media hypoe and twitter following he still can't get over 2 million sales. 3 albums 4 million total sales. Don't blame the age, or the new market, blame the shit that's being sold as music. One of the biggest stars in music and he can't sell more than Dogg Food? Give Daz and Kurupt the kind of media attention Drake gets and they'd have gone diamond.
The kid can't even pack up the skydome. Bruce Springsteen is 3 times Drake's age, was never pushed by the media as hard as Drake is now, releases a compilation album of unreleased songs, none are hits, tours half the number of cities and generates almost two times the revenue with lower ticket prices. You know why? Because more people come to see talent than will ever come to see hype.
Drake's at his absolute peak and this is the best he can do? He's a 100% media creation. These millions upon millions of fans and followers he has don't even like him enough to buy his albums.
One the grand scheme of things, I agree. Here is the thing though, it's 2015. It's about living in the now. I listen to old music, and I listen to new music. Only 2 rappers today really grab my attention, that's J. Cole and K Dot. But social media is dominated by Drake and Meek Mill, so I put my ear to the battle and I was not impressed by the music at all, but the moves of Drake. Now let's 100, when K Dot dropped Control, the whole Hip-Hop universe wanted Drake to respond, and he dropped a subliminal diss, and when K Dot responded with a couple of little jabs Drake tucked his tail and said they were friends. So I'm not saying Drake is an all-time great. But for today, Drake has got his first true Hip-Hop win against a very weak so-called street rapper. It's like LeBron finally winning with Bosh and Wade, I mean, it will go on the resume, it gets the monkey off his back, but at the end of the day it wouldn't put him on Mt. Rushmore. Drake in many ways is like the LeBron of rap, he can make good music, and some think he's the best of his generation, but somethings missing to bring him to that next level and in any other era he wouldn't be the best. The difference is that Drake has J. Cole and K Dot to shine above him and keep the real heads satisfied well Drake goes and gets the mainstream attention.
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A couple points on this controversy:
- Drake didn't use a "ghostwriter", he hired another writer to help with the song, Quentin Miller. Quentin Miller is credited in the booklet for that song. Not exactly hiding the fact someone else helped
- Quentin Miller says he didn't ghostwrite anything, that him and Drake collaborated on a few songs and that IYRTITL was essentially done when he started working with them
- Other great rappers/lyricists have been accused of this too, and with actual ghostwriters (non-credited writers). Cormega wrote Nas's most famous quotable "Life's a bitch god forbid the bitch divorce me."
- Meek is pretty wack (just sayin') and this whole thing started because Drake wouldn't tweet Meek's album... that might be the dumbest reason for a beef in hip hop history
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A couple points on this controversy:
- Drake didn't use a "ghostwriter", he hired another writer to help with the song, Quentin Miller. Quentin Miller is credited in the booklet for that song. Not exactly hiding the fact someone else helped
- Quentin Miller says he didn't ghostwrite anything, that him and Drake collaborated on a few songs and that IYRTITL was essentially done when he started working with them
- Other great rappers/lyricists have been accused of this too, and with actual ghostwriters (non-credited writers). Cormega wrote Nas's most famous quotable "Life's a bitch god forbid the bitch divorce me."
- Meek is pretty wack (just sayin') and this whole thing started because Drake wouldn't tweet Meek's album... that might be the dumbest reason for a beef in hip hop history
Nah, I think caught feelings over Drake's Rico verse. Drake smashed Nikki, the whole world knows it.
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
My mother listens to him, I'll ask her about it...
His old stuff is phenomenal. But his current stuff isn't relevant or successful. My point is that a way past his prime senior citizen can generate more money than the biggest acts in modern music. I assure you that no one in their mid 60s who where big in the 50s was generating anything close to what the stars of the 80s were doing in the 80s.
The reason is simple; the stars of the 80s had enough talent and hits to keep the old dogs at bay. Today's stars don't have enough of either, thus there is enough current people that would rather go see an old act and not spend the money on a current one. Because the current acts simply do not resonate with the masses. The hits and revenue simply isn't there.
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
My mother listens to him, I'll ask her about it...
His old stuff is phenomenal. But his current stuff isn't relevant or successful. My point is that a way past his prime senior citizen can generate more money than the biggest acts in modern music. I assure you that no one in their mid 60s who where big in the 50s was generating anything close to what the stars of the 80s were doing in the 80s.
The reason is simple; the stars of the 80s had enough talent and hits to keep the old dogs at bay. Today's stars don't have enough of either, thus there is enough current people that would rather go see an old act and not spend the money on a current one. Because the current acts simply do not resonate with the masses. The hits and revenue simply isn't there.
The dangerous thing with that statement is my teacher said the same thing in the 90's about how 90's music sucks and 60's and 70's artist were more talented. Now the 90's are seen as the old school talented artist.
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How long to Game speaks on it? aint like him not to get involved ::)
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
My mother listens to him, I'll ask her about it...
His old stuff is phenomenal. But his current stuff isn't relevant or successful. My point is that a way past his prime senior citizen can generate more money than the biggest acts in modern music. I assure you that no one in their mid 60s who where big in the 50s was generating anything close to what the stars of the 80s were doing in the 80s.
The reason is simple; the stars of the 80s had enough talent and hits to keep the old dogs at bay. Today's stars don't have enough of either, thus there is enough current people that would rather go see an old act and not spend the money on a current one. Because the current acts simply do not resonate with the masses. The hits and revenue simply isn't there.
The dangerous thing with that statement is my teacher said the same thing in the 90's about how 90's music sucks and 60's and 70's artist were more talented. Now the 90's are seen as the old school talented artist.
90s was the golden era or rap....jazz was 60s, rock was 70s, funk/disco was 80s...00s was the golden era for edm, and 10s is not yet decided.
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Dreams Worth More Than Money > Drake's entire catalog
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Bruce Springsteen????
Come on shallow, the 80s is like vintage now.....
I'm talking about his 2014 tour. Not the 80s.
My mother listens to him, I'll ask her about it...
His old stuff is phenomenal. But his current stuff isn't relevant or successful. My point is that a way past his prime senior citizen can generate more money than the biggest acts in modern music. I assure you that no one in their mid 60s who where big in the 50s was generating anything close to what the stars of the 80s were doing in the 80s.
The reason is simple; the stars of the 80s had enough talent and hits to keep the old dogs at bay. Today's stars don't have enough of either, thus there is enough current people that would rather go see an old act and not spend the money on a current one. Because the current acts simply do not resonate with the masses. The hits and revenue simply isn't there.
The dangerous thing with that statement is my teacher said the same thing in the 90's about how 90's music sucks and 60's and 70's artist were more talented. Now the 90's are seen as the old school talented artist.
For starters I said 80s for a reason. The 90s was the beginning of the end. Where the older acts started creeping in. Yet still the 90s had their fair share of massive stars and albums from Whitney to Celine to Nirvana to Garth Brooks to Shania and Alanis. We're talking plenty of diamond albums those years. Yet still the older acts were making a resurgence.
In the 80s the top 5 tours were from first to fifth Pink Floyd, MJ, Rolling Stones, Bowie, and Springsteen. None of those acts were over 10 to 15 years out of their prime. In the 90's it was the Stones twice, Pink Floyd, U2, and MJ. We start to see the yesteryear stars take over the current ones buy we still have modern acts with modern hit albums in the mix. By the 2000s we have Stones, Madonna, U2, Police, Stones. And so far in the 10s it's U2, Roger Waters of Pink Floyd, AC DC, Madonna and Springsteen. The first decade so far where the top 5 is compiled entirely of acts with no modern relevant album to go with the tour.
It's a joke that these clowns like Drake Kanye Jay etc think they're the biggest stars in the biz when they can't even combine sales to go Diamond or break into the top 5 tours.
Furthermore I'm speaking stardom and success not quality. While I won't say much for the last 15 years. No one looks back and studies the 90's and says the music had no talent. And even back the there were plenty of non pop acts contributing to the art.
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reality VS social media:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhxOX5U5PNSCqDAP1p
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reality VS social media:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhxOX5U5PNSCqDAP1p
it's a mill show, what u expect?
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reality VS social media:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhxOX5U5PNSCqDAP1p
it's a mill show, what u expect?
If I were Meek and as good as he claims he is I would just set up a battle in Toronto. If Drake really can't rhyme at all and needs everything written for him then Meek should be able to come out on top and save face.
Of course if Drake really is a product of songwriters then he just won't accept the battle to begin with.