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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Sccit on January 13, 2016, 12:51:43 PM
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Officially returning to LA 8)
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Yall need to bring in Tim tebow to run that offense and sell tickets
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It's about time LA has a team again 8). Not a fan of the Rams but i'll have to get tickets.
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Yall need to bring in Tim tebow to run that offense and sell tickets
I'm wit it
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Yall need to bring in Tim tebow to run that offense and sell tickets
Bring in Johnny Football.
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LOL... I was sad the Raiders didn't return, but I think the Rams and Chargers fit the image that the NFL is trying for LA. The Rams had always been more popular in OC and the Valley, and the Chargers just look like a more chill laid back team. I was going to ask who Sccit would root for, because he made it clear that he was rooting for the Raiders but only until LA gets a team. And with the Chargers more than likely moving to LA this year (they have 12 months to move or the Raiders can move to LA next year) my first thought was, I wonder who Sccit is rooting for. I guess I got my answer.
Of course they better win, or we might see this again, (Rams home opener in 1994).
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/la-rams-cardinals-1994-vj.jpg)
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LOL... I was sad the Raiders didn't return, but I think the Rams and Chargers fit the image that the NFL is trying for LA. The Rams had always been more popular in OC and the Valley, and the Chargers just look like a more chill laid back team. I was going to ask who Sccit would root for, because he made it clear that he was rooting for the Raiders but only until LA gets a team. And with the Chargers more than likely moving to LA this year (they have 12 months to move or the Raiders can move to LA next year) my first thought was, I wonder who Sccit is rooting for. I guess I got my answer.
Of course they better win, or we might see this again, (Rams home opener in 1994).
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/la-rams-cardinals-1994-vj.jpg)
They'll do great initially like any new team, we'll see how it looks 5 years down the road. Even with that said, selling out every game isn't as important as it used to be given all the other revenue streams that owners have these days.
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i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
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LOL... I was sad the Raiders didn't return, but I think the Rams and Chargers fit the image that the NFL is trying for LA. The Rams had always been more popular in OC and the Valley, and the Chargers just look like a more chill laid back team. I was going to ask who Sccit would root for, because he made it clear that he was rooting for the Raiders but only until LA gets a team. And with the Chargers more than likely moving to LA this year (they have 12 months to move or the Raiders can move to LA next year) my first thought was, I wonder who Sccit is rooting for. I guess I got my answer.
Of course they better win, or we might see this again, (Rams home opener in 1994).
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/la-rams-cardinals-1994-vj.jpg)
They'll do great initially like any new team, we'll see how it looks 5 years down the road. Even with that said, selling out every game isn't as important as it used to be given all the other revenue streams that owners have these days.
That first year, they'll fill up the Coliseum, and that's hard to do. But the Rams have never had that Laker or Dodger status in LA. So you might be right, in 5 years, we'll see.
i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
I highly doubt the Chargers are staying in San Diego. Now rumors are that the Raiders might move to San Diego, as San Diego is basically another home game for them. From what I've gathered, the Chargers want only two teams in So Cal, because they can't compete for attention against the Raider and the LA Rams. Notice I said LA Rams, because the Raiders have a huge chuck of SD, IE, and LA for their fan base. The only way the Chargers can do somethings is to move to LA, because the Raiders moving in next year would kill a lot of the Chargers fan base in LA. Many of the Charger fans are actually old Rams fans who jumped to the Chargers when the Rams left. Many Raider fans stuck because they didn't leave CA, they just moved back home. So the Rams coming back doesn't really hurt the Raiders as much (it does some though) as it does the Chargers. Which is why the Chargers wanted to move with the Raiders, because to them, the Rams take back fans that the Chargers adopted, but the Raiders and Charger fans are completely separate. The only way for the Chargers to compete now is to move into LA too... and take that Clippers status. Especially if the Raiders have the option to move to LA if you don't take it. The Raiders can move into LA and then the Chargers are squeezed in SD again, like they were 20 years ago. If the Chargers move to LA, they'd be able to keep some fans that became Charger fans over the years, but they don't want the Raiders to move to SD. But, I have a feeling the Raiders will move to SD. Many owners seemed to be impressed with the Raiders basically having home field advantage in SD, and I could see the Raiders in SD, and the Chargers and Rams in LA. My hope though is the Raiders stay in the Bay. I love the Raiders, and I wanted them in LA. BUT, if they ain't in LA, then they need to be in Oakland.
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LOL... I was sad the Raiders didn't return, but I think the Rams and Chargers fit the image that the NFL is trying for LA. The Rams had always been more popular in OC and the Valley, and the Chargers just look like a more chill laid back team. I was going to ask who Sccit would root for, because he made it clear that he was rooting for the Raiders but only until LA gets a team. And with the Chargers more than likely moving to LA this year (they have 12 months to move or the Raiders can move to LA next year) my first thought was, I wonder who Sccit is rooting for. I guess I got my answer.
Of course they better win, or we might see this again, (Rams home opener in 1994).
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/la-rams-cardinals-1994-vj.jpg)
They'll do great initially like any new team, we'll see how it looks 5 years down the road. Even with that said, selling out every game isn't as important as it used to be given all the other revenue streams that owners have these days.
That first year, they'll fill up the Coliseum, and that's hard to do. But the Rams have never had that Laker or Dodger status in LA. So you might be right, in 5 years, we'll see.
i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
I highly doubt the Chargers are staying in San Diego. Now rumors are that the Raiders might move to San Diego, as San Diego is basically another home game for them. From what I've gathered, the Chargers want only two teams in So Cal, because they can't compete for attention against the Raider and the LA Rams. Notice I said LA Rams, because the Raiders have a huge chuck of SD, IE, and LA for their fan base. The only way the Chargers can do somethings is to move to LA, because the Raiders moving in next year would kill a lot of the Chargers fan base in LA. Many of the Charger fans are actually old Rams fans who jumped to the Chargers when the Rams left. Many Raider fans stuck because they didn't leave CA, they just moved back home. So the Rams coming back doesn't really hurt the Raiders as much (it does some though) as it does the Chargers. Which is why the Chargers wanted to move with the Raiders, because to them, the Rams take back fans that the Chargers adopted, but the Raiders and Charger fans are completely separate. The only way for the Chargers to compete now is to move into LA too... and take that Clippers status. Especially if the Raiders have the option to move to LA if you don't take it. The Raiders can move into LA and then the Chargers are squeezed in SD again, like they were 20 years ago. If the Chargers move to LA, they'd be able to keep some fans that became Charger fans over the years, but they don't want the Raiders to move to SD. But, I have a feeling the Raiders will move to SD. Many owners seemed to be impressed with the Raiders basically having home field advantage in SD, and I could see the Raiders in SD, and the Chargers and Rams in LA. My hope though is the Raiders stay in the Bay. I love the Raiders, and I wanted them in LA. BUT, if they ain't in LA, then they need to be in Oakland.
so what are the chances raiders still move to LA?
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LOL... I was sad the Raiders didn't return, but I think the Rams and Chargers fit the image that the NFL is trying for LA. The Rams had always been more popular in OC and the Valley, and the Chargers just look like a more chill laid back team. I was going to ask who Sccit would root for, because he made it clear that he was rooting for the Raiders but only until LA gets a team. And with the Chargers more than likely moving to LA this year (they have 12 months to move or the Raiders can move to LA next year) my first thought was, I wonder who Sccit is rooting for. I guess I got my answer.
Of course they better win, or we might see this again, (Rams home opener in 1994).
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/la-rams-cardinals-1994-vj.jpg)
They'll do great initially like any new team, we'll see how it looks 5 years down the road. Even with that said, selling out every game isn't as important as it used to be given all the other revenue streams that owners have these days.
That first year, they'll fill up the Coliseum, and that's hard to do. But the Rams have never had that Laker or Dodger status in LA. So you might be right, in 5 years, we'll see.
i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
I highly doubt the Chargers are staying in San Diego. Now rumors are that the Raiders might move to San Diego, as San Diego is basically another home game for them. From what I've gathered, the Chargers want only two teams in So Cal, because they can't compete for attention against the Raider and the LA Rams. Notice I said LA Rams, because the Raiders have a huge chuck of SD, IE, and LA for their fan base. The only way the Chargers can do somethings is to move to LA, because the Raiders moving in next year would kill a lot of the Chargers fan base in LA. Many of the Charger fans are actually old Rams fans who jumped to the Chargers when the Rams left. Many Raider fans stuck because they didn't leave CA, they just moved back home. So the Rams coming back doesn't really hurt the Raiders as much (it does some though) as it does the Chargers. Which is why the Chargers wanted to move with the Raiders, because to them, the Rams take back fans that the Chargers adopted, but the Raiders and Charger fans are completely separate. The only way for the Chargers to compete now is to move into LA too... and take that Clippers status. Especially if the Raiders have the option to move to LA if you don't take it. The Raiders can move into LA and then the Chargers are squeezed in SD again, like they were 20 years ago. If the Chargers move to LA, they'd be able to keep some fans that became Charger fans over the years, but they don't want the Raiders to move to SD. But, I have a feeling the Raiders will move to SD. Many owners seemed to be impressed with the Raiders basically having home field advantage in SD, and I could see the Raiders in SD, and the Chargers and Rams in LA. My hope though is the Raiders stay in the Bay. I love the Raiders, and I wanted them in LA. BUT, if they ain't in LA, then they need to be in Oakland.
so what are the chances raiders still move to LA?
I give that a 5% chance. I think it's a 95% chance Spanos moves the Chargers to LA, because it's the survival of his team and he has first option with the Chargers. The only thing holding him back is he doesn't like or trust Kroenke, the owners of the Rams. Kroenke is an owner in the cut of Kraft of the Patriots or Jones in Dallas, they are richer than rich assholes who know how to get their way. Spanos is the son of the only owner the Chargers have known, and runs the Chargers like a family business, like Mark Davis in Oakland. So that part is holding the Chargers back, as Spanos doesn't like Kroenke and doesn't want to do business with him. Rumor is that the Chargers are now looking into moving to LA with the Rams, but they aren't 100% sure yet.
The Raiders will move to LA is the Chargers don't. Mark is actually friendly with the richer than rich owners, he's good friends with Jones and was at one time friends with Kroenke. If the little 5% chance Spanos doesn't move, Mark Davis will be there no questions asked. Ironically, that is the exact site Al Davis tried to buy in 1995 to build a new stadium for the Raiders, but the NFL blocked him from building a new stadium unless he had a new team move in. If Spanos doesn't move to LA, but instead Davis does next year, the Raiders will be tenants in the exact same location that they tried to build a stadium 20 years earlier, with another team which is why they moved back to Oakland.
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i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
as a raider fan, I gotta say it
(http://img.memecdn.com/is-this-faggot-serious-meme-woody_o_955183.jpg)
but from my understanding people in L.A. always did the two team thing, (Angels and Dodgers, Lakers and Clippers, Ducks and Kings). The market is so big, they always wanted to create that rivalry in order to increase sells. The issue at the time was the selling out of games, but now that the NFL has so much income the issue isn't really about team support.
But the Rams organization always wanted to be the 49ers, they always wanted there fans to be "rich white people" basically, when in reality there bitch ass is middle class. While the Raiders was more blue collar. Regardless the Raiders have the biggest brand out there mainly because they won 3 Super Bowls, 1 in the city its self. The Rams back then basically faded into the backround and were none-existent in terms of anyone giving shit.
The issue for the rams and the chargers (if they move) is will the NFL just fold em up if the 2 teams continue to produce poorly. L.A. is infamous for being band wagon central in sports fronts. The Rams left once the raiders moved to town, because the Raiders took all the glory, the raiders left for there own reasons, while the Rams left because they had no support. The issue again is if 1 team becomes the dominate franchise the other might get ignored completely.
IMO that's 1 of the many factors that kept the Raiders out, because a second team would NOT be viable from the start because the Raiders team is currently on a up stroke, meanwhile the Rams/Chargers are on a continual down stroke. If The chargers move, then it becomes a race between them for a Super bowl, the team that produces that first will become the dominate franchise for awhile.
But I highly doubt considering both clubs do not really set the same Standards the raiders always shoot for (again, before the haters say anything, the organization basically became massively dysfunctional on multiple levels during our losing period).
With that said I'd rather the raiders be in L.A. or Oakland, some where in the west, I'll be a fan where ever they go, but I'm not expecting them to be able to move into the L.A. market. The NFL screwed Mark Davis and took its final shit onto Al Davis grave with this whole thing, and for the record Mark Davis is a bitch.
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i'm rooting for rams, as long as raiders dont move to LA as well.....if raiders make the move, i'll be a raiders fan first. but im team rams for now, chargers will be clippers status to me.
as a raider fan, I gotta say it
(http://img.memecdn.com/is-this-faggot-serious-meme-woody_o_955183.jpg)
but from my understanding people in L.A. always did the two team thing, (Angels and Dodgers, Lakers and Clippers, Ducks and Kings). The market is so big, they always wanted to create that rivalry in order to increase sells. The issue at the time was the selling out of games, but now that the NFL has so much income the issue isn't really about team support.
But the Rams organization always wanted to be the 49ers, they always wanted there fans to be "rich white people" basically, when in reality there bitch ass is middle class. While the Raiders was more blue collar. Regardless the Raiders have the biggest brand out there mainly because they won 3 Super Bowls, 1 in the city its self. The Rams back then basically faded into the backround and were none-existent in terms of anyone giving shit.
The issue for the rams and the chargers (if they move) is will the NFL just fold em up if the 2 teams continue to produce poorly. L.A. is infamous for being band wagon central in sports fronts. The Rams left once the raiders moved to town, because the Raiders took all the glory, the raiders left for there own reasons, while the Rams left because they had no support. The issue again is if 1 team becomes the dominate franchise the other might get ignored completely.
IMO that's 1 of the many factors that kept the Raiders out, because a second team would NOT be viable from the start because the Raiders team is currently on a up stroke, meanwhile the Rams/Chargers are on a continual down stroke. If The chargers move, then it becomes a race between them for a Super bowl, the team that produces that first will become the dominate franchise for awhile.
But I highly doubt considering both clubs do not really set the same Standards the raiders always shoot for (again, before the haters say anything, the organization basically became massively dysfunctional on multiple levels during our losing period).
With that said I'd rather the raiders be in L.A. or Oakland, some where in the west, I'll be a fan where ever they go, but I'm not expecting them to be able to move into the L.A. market. The NFL screwed Mark Davis and took its final shit onto Al Davis grave with this whole thing, and for the record Mark Davis is a bitch.
fuck that noise, ima go wit la over oakland all day....i was too young when raiders was in oakland, so i never had an attachment to em like that, i was a casual fan at best. if they come to la, that'll be optimal. but until that day, im reppin the team that reps my city, LA RAMS 8) 8) 8) 8)
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they go 7-8-1
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I highly doubt the Chargers are staying in San Diego. Now rumors are that the Raiders might move to San Diego, as San Diego is basically another home game for them. From what I've gathered, the Chargers want only two teams in So Cal, because they can't compete for attention against the Raider and the LA Rams. Notice I said LA Rams, because the Raiders have a huge chuck of SD, IE, and LA for their fan base. The only way the Chargers can do somethings is to move to LA, because the Raiders moving in next year would kill a lot of the Chargers fan base in LA. Many of the Charger fans are actually old Rams fans who jumped to the Chargers when the Rams left. Many Raider fans stuck because they didn't leave CA, they just moved back home. So the Rams coming back doesn't really hurt the Raiders as much (it does some though) as it does the Chargers. Which is why the Chargers wanted to move with the Raiders, because to them, the Rams take back fans that the Chargers adopted, but the Raiders and Charger fans are completely separate. The only way for the Chargers to compete now is to move into LA too... and take that Clippers status. Especially if the Raiders have the option to move to LA if you don't take it. The Raiders can move into LA and then the Chargers are squeezed in SD again, like they were 20 years ago. If the Chargers move to LA, they'd be able to keep some fans that became Charger fans over the years, but they don't want the Raiders to move to SD. But, I have a feeling the Raiders will move to SD. Many owners seemed to be impressed with the Raiders basically having home field advantage in SD, and I could see the Raiders in SD, and the Chargers and Rams in LA. My hope though is the Raiders stay in the Bay. I love the Raiders, and I wanted them in LA. BUT, if they ain't in LA, then they need to be in Oakland.
The only reason the idea of the raiders moving to San Diago is because that city wants a team to not waste the stadium they built, and the City its self has a huge fanbase for the raiders instead of the hometeam. that issue steams with the history of the NFL.the Westcoast Market is that California originally did not have a major team outside of the 49ers, who did not produce any major results. So when the raiders were created from the young upstart AFL and Dominated and continued to to do so post merger and bring the first super bowl to the Bay and California that's what caused the Chargers and 49ers to become irrelevant.The Chargers and Raiders were born in the same year in the same league, but only 1 team manage to consistently dominate and more importantly develop a persona that resonated with people off field.
The 49ers mean while marketed themselves as a uptight clean up rich elitest type of club which put off the bulk of the southland, and Football it's self wasn't reaching major levels until the NFL-AFL rivalry forced it to, So many before the raiders didn't care, or were simply fans because nothing else was in Cali. Then all of a sudden the 49ers started to win Super bowls like a motherfucker, which in turn gave the 49ers a more rich history which is why now the bulk of people are either Raiders or 49ers today.
Meanwhile the chargers since it's inception have not done anything super substantial post-merger, same with the Rams (until they won a super bowl).The Rams never produced anything while in California, causing them to be irrelevant when it came to the already 3 Established clubs (Two of which were Juggernaut clubs, and another that already had established territory).they got wipe off the scene when the Raiders moved to L.A. , They had to move to become viable.
The main issue with the California market is purely because of history, the 49ers and the Raiders won super bowls and established themselves as winning clubs, while the Rams and more importantly the chargers have yet to do anything. The NFL Recognize this so is trying to give the two teams a even footing, however until the chargers win they'll never have a viable market. In order for them to survive and make money they need to produce a winning dominate team. That's what helped the Panthers and Seahawks escape from obscurity, it's the only way. The entire debate wasn't even about them it was Rams vs Raiders, they are such a non-threat they weren't even discussed.
The Rams will be the dominate factor if Chargers move because the rams have 1 Super bowl under there belt. The Raiders would be the dominate if they moved in with the Rams, because history has already shown this and would basically repeat its self, especially since the Raiders are on the upstroke, while the rams are currently struggling.
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I was going to say, to be fair to Sccit, he's started over and over that if LA gets a team, then he'll ride for LA, but if not then he roots for the Raiders. Me being an IE kid, i have no attachments to LA teams, so i root for the Raiders, no matter where they are in California (i'll follow as far as Las Vegas), the Angels and Lakers. But i respect Sccit for that because he's about his city, though as he has said, ideally for him the Raiders move to LA.
As for the history, a lot of the Raider history has been faded thanks to the last 13 seasons. But what the Raiders do have is image. Both the Rams and Niners branded their teams as the rich white teams. And the Chargers always seemed to attach a more laid back crowd. But the Raiders got many of the black and Latino crowd. In the 80's, the Raiders crowds were undesirable, but now with the increase in Latinos and blacks, the Raiders could have been HUGE in LA. The fans they attach are loyal, crazy loyal. It's more than history, history helped the Raiders for only so long. Eventually the fan base stepped up and sold out games even though the Raiders were terrible. I have no idea why they covered part of the stadium as they had whole sessions of sell outs before. I actually think losing helped the Raiders fan base get the band wagon fans off. Since then it seems like the Raider fans who suck through the losing are the true fans. Neither the Chargers our Rams have those fans. And the Niners don't either. We'll see, as i predict the Chargers and Niners are about to face some rough years. The Rams have a very tough division to over come, and the Raiders are on the verge of being a Super Bowl contender in a couple of years. We could just see the Raiders retake all of California.
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Raiders might move to San Antonio
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Raiders might move to San Antonio
Not over Jerry Jones dead body
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sccit talks alotta shit bout sports lmfao
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sccit talks alotta shit bout sports lmfao
I don't know if it was luck or perseverance but by god congrats on making a post that actually made some level of sense.
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
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sccit talks alotta shit bout sports lmfao
I don't know if it was luck or perseverance but by god congrats on making a post that actually made some level of sense.
I thinks La has a shot at the playoffs if the have a great QB and wide out(WR) combo. i would personally go for Pierre Garcon from Washington
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sccit talks alotta shit bout sports lmfao
I don't know if it was luck or perseverance but by god congrats on making a post that actually made some level of sense.
hes average
I thinks La has a shot at the playoffs if the have a great QB and wide out(WR) combo. i would personally go for Pierre Garcon from Washington
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
Sports are about civic pride and rallying around your home team. The whole "follow teams" statement is funny to me, that's what I've seen a bunch of people say about the Rams. I sure as hell wouldn't root for the Rams if I were in St Louis just like I don't root for the Thunder. I get picking up different teams if you don't have one in your market, but just rooting for a bunch of different cities doesn't make any sense to me.
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
Sports are about civic pride and rallying around your home team. The whole "follow teams" statement is funny to me, that's what I've seen a bunch of people say about the Rams. I sure as hell wouldn't root for the Rams if I were in St Louis just like I don't root for the Thunder. I get picking up different teams if you don't have one in your market, but just rooting for a bunch of different cities doesn't make any sense to me.
To me, and maybe because I grew up in California, your team says volumes about you. Like growing up, if you were white, you were more than likely a 49er fan. If you loved to spend your weekends at the beach and no care about football, usually you liked to follow the Chargers. If you were old, more than likely you were a Rams fan. If you were black or Latino, and poor, it's safe to assume you were a Raiders fan. And maybe that's a California thing back then, being that California had so many teams. Most Rams fans turned into Charger fans over the years, or just stopped rooting for a team. But I really get the whole follow a team. Sometimes the team identity in your market doesn't fit you. Ice Cube talked about it in his Straight Outta LA documentary about how he was rooting for the Raiders long before they came to LA. At the time, only the Rams were in LA and he thought they were soft, even though they played in the Coliseum and that was right next to South Central. My dad grew up in the Inland Empire, and he rooted for the Raiders too, because they had a two Mexican QB's (Tom Flores and Jim Plunkett) and even a Mexican coach after John Madden retired (Flores). San Bernardino is more an LA market and Riverside is more an OC market, but I root for the Angels growing up, because they had Jim Abbott. I really related to Abbott with one hand, being the underdog.
So yeah, on the flip side, I live in Minnesota now. Everyone everywhere roots for the home teams. Vikings, T'Wolves, Twins, Wild. With that said, these teams try to make their teams fit the market and the image of that market. So much of these teams getting players include, can they do well in Minnesota?
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
Sports are about civic pride and rallying around your home team. The whole "follow teams" statement is funny to me, that's what I've seen a bunch of people say about the Rams. I sure as hell wouldn't root for the Rams if I were in St Louis just like I don't root for the Thunder. I get picking up different teams if you don't have one in your market, but just rooting for a bunch of different cities doesn't make any sense to me.
To me, and maybe because I grew up in California, your team says volumes about you. Like growing up, if you were white, you were more than likely a 49er fan. If you loved to spend your weekends at the beach and no care about football, usually you liked to follow the Chargers. If you were old, more than likely you were a Rams fan. If you were black or Latino, and poor, it's safe to assume you were a Raiders fan. And maybe that's a California thing back then, being that California had so many teams. Most Rams fans turned into Charger fans over the years, or just stopped rooting for a team. But I really get the whole follow a team. Sometimes the team identity in your market doesn't fit you. Ice Cube talked about it in his Straight Outta LA documentary about how he was rooting for the Raiders long before they came to LA. At the time, only the Rams were in LA and he thought they were soft, even though they played in the Coliseum and that was right next to South Central. My dad grew up in the Inland Empire, and he rooted for the Raiders too, because they had a two Mexican QB's (Tom Flores and Jim Plunkett) and even a Mexican coach after John Madden retired (Flores). San Bernardino is more an LA market and Riverside is more an OC market, but I root for the Angels growing up, because they had Jim Abbott. I really related to Abbott with one hand, being the underdog.
So yeah, on the flip side, I live in Minnesota now. Everyone everywhere roots for the home teams. Vikings, T'Wolves, Twins, Wild. With that said, these teams try to make their teams fit the market and the image of that market. So much of these teams getting players include, can they do well in Minnesota?
Yeah, I'll give you that it's different growing up in CA with all the different teams/losing the Rams 20+ years ago. In a place like Washington it's pretty clear cut between the Mariners and Seahawks. I also do get rooting for out of market teams if you grew up on them because of family or something. Still, growing up in Washington and rooting for the Cowboys or something like that will never make sense to me. Sports are just a huge community thing. Obviously the run the Seahawks have had has been great for the region, as was the Mariners run in mid 90's/2000's. Sports are just much more enjoyable when your rallying with the people around you and the players are representing where you're from.
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
Sports are about civic pride and rallying around your home team. The whole "follow teams" statement is funny to me, that's what I've seen a bunch of people say about the Rams. I sure as hell wouldn't root for the Rams if I were in St Louis just like I don't root for the Thunder. I get picking up different teams if you don't have one in your market, but just rooting for a bunch of different cities doesn't make any sense to me.
To me, and maybe because I grew up in California, your team says volumes about you. Like growing up, if you were white, you were more than likely a 49er fan. If you loved to spend your weekends at the beach and no care about football, usually you liked to follow the Chargers. If you were old, more than likely you were a Rams fan. If you were black or Latino, and poor, it's safe to assume you were a Raiders fan. And maybe that's a California thing back then, being that California had so many teams. Most Rams fans turned into Charger fans over the years, or just stopped rooting for a team. But I really get the whole follow a team. Sometimes the team identity in your market doesn't fit you. Ice Cube talked about it in his Straight Outta LA documentary about how he was rooting for the Raiders long before they came to LA. At the time, only the Rams were in LA and he thought they were soft, even though they played in the Coliseum and that was right next to South Central. My dad grew up in the Inland Empire, and he rooted for the Raiders too, because they had a two Mexican QB's (Tom Flores and Jim Plunkett) and even a Mexican coach after John Madden retired (Flores). San Bernardino is more an LA market and Riverside is more an OC market, but I root for the Angels growing up, because they had Jim Abbott. I really related to Abbott with one hand, being the underdog.
So yeah, on the flip side, I live in Minnesota now. Everyone everywhere roots for the home teams. Vikings, T'Wolves, Twins, Wild. With that said, these teams try to make their teams fit the market and the image of that market. So much of these teams getting players include, can they do well in Minnesota?
Yeah, I'll give you that it's different growing up in CA with all the different teams/losing the Rams 20+ years ago. In a place like Washington it's pretty clear cut between the Mariners and Seahawks. I also do get rooting for out of market teams if you grew up on them because of family or something. Still, growing up in Washington and rooting for the Cowboys or something like that will never make sense to me. Sports are just a huge community thing. Obviously the run the Seahawks have had has been great for the region, as was the Mariners run in mid 90's/2000's. Sports are just much more enjoyable when your rallying with the people around you and the players are representing where you're from.
Maybe you have a point. The only thing I'd say is that it's also fun to have others with different teams. Sort of like agitators. In California, many, and I mean the vase majority, are Lakers fans when it comes to basketball. But you always have that minority of fans who "root for players." Like in the 90's, they cheered for the Bulls, in the 2000's they all became Cavs fans, then Heat fans, and now they all have Cavs gear on again. And they are fun to have around.
To your point though, I was home from the first three-peat, and it was fun going to the grocery store and just talking to random people about the NBA Finals, knowing everyone was watching it. I remember when the Lakers won in 2002, when the final buzzer went off, people ran outside with Laker flags and blowing blow horns. My grandma also went outside, and she was so happy just like, "oh look at all the excitement!" It was a little community block party just out of happiness that the Lakers won. So I get your point, that only happens when the whole community is invested and people are all happy.
At the same time, isn't that what we have in football every year. Each year, millions of people pill into houses all over the nation to watch the Super Bowl, they all pick teams and cheer? Basketball, baseball, they are more regional sports. But football is more of a national sport. The games are more spread out, it's mainly watched on TV. Baseball, people talk about their dads taking them to the game to watch the local team. I've seen so many Angel and Dodger games in person, but I only saw one Raiders game in 1993. And not because they moved in 1995, but because football games are expensive and hard to get in to. Maybe I'm off, but to me, football is easier to root for different teams. All the games are televised nationally, you have access to different teams in your local market each week, and it's only one game a week so it's easier to follow. In baseball or basketball, you have more games to watch each week, and it's hard to follow the storyline.
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Remedy makes excellent points
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Now your going to have to step your NFL game up, Sccit. Hope it's better than your MLB game.... Your Dodgers support seemed hella-contrived 8)
never claimed to be a big mlb head, but i always support local teams and watch the playoffs......as u know, basketball is my sport. if u wana talk sports w me on some real shit, u guna have 2 step your nba game up.
Yeah I was gonna say you're a bigger basketball fan then anything, I take football more serious cause I'm a bigger fan of that then anything, I mean I'm a fan of MLB (White Sox), Basketball (Lakers), Rugby (All Blacks) Hockey (L.A. Kings). That's why when I hear fans doing that shit in terms of another sport It doesn't bother me no where near as much lol, but u straight up front about the city deal so respect.I disagree with it but still respect. 8)
Nothing wrong with reppin the city, but in terms of sports I follow the team more then the city. 8) 8)
Sports are about civic pride and rallying around your home team. The whole "follow teams" statement is funny to me, that's what I've seen a bunch of people say about the Rams. I sure as hell wouldn't root for the Rams if I were in St Louis just like I don't root for the Thunder. I get picking up different teams if you don't have one in your market, but just rooting for a bunch of different cities doesn't make any sense to me.
To me, and maybe because I grew up in California, your team says volumes about you. Like growing up, if you were white, you were more than likely a 49er fan. If you loved to spend your weekends at the beach and no care about football, usually you liked to follow the Chargers. If you were old, more than likely you were a Rams fan. If you were black or Latino, and poor, it's safe to assume you were a Raiders fan. And maybe that's a California thing back then, being that California had so many teams. Most Rams fans turned into Charger fans over the years, or just stopped rooting for a team. But I really get the whole follow a team. Sometimes the team identity in your market doesn't fit you. Ice Cube talked about it in his Straight Outta LA documentary about how he was rooting for the Raiders long before they came to LA. At the time, only the Rams were in LA and he thought they were soft, even though they played in the Coliseum and that was right next to South Central. My dad grew up in the Inland Empire, and he rooted for the Raiders too, because they had a two Mexican QB's (Tom Flores and Jim Plunkett) and even a Mexican coach after John Madden retired (Flores). San Bernardino is more an LA market and Riverside is more an OC market, but I root for the Angels growing up, because they had Jim Abbott. I really related to Abbott with one hand, being the underdog.
So yeah, on the flip side, I live in Minnesota now. Everyone everywhere roots for the home teams. Vikings, T'Wolves, Twins, Wild. With that said, these teams try to make their teams fit the market and the image of that market. So much of these teams getting players include, can they do well in Minnesota?
Yeah, I'll give you that it's different growing up in CA with all the different teams/losing the Rams 20+ years ago. In a place like Washington it's pretty clear cut between the Mariners and Seahawks. I also do get rooting for out of market teams if you grew up on them because of family or something. Still, growing up in Washington and rooting for the Cowboys or something like that will never make sense to me. Sports are just a huge community thing. Obviously the run the Seahawks have had has been great for the region, as was the Mariners run in mid 90's/2000's. Sports are just much more enjoyable when your rallying with the people around you and the players are representing where you're from.
Maybe you have a point. The only thing I'd say is that it's also fun to have others with different teams. Sort of like agitators. In California, many, and I mean the vase majority, are Lakers fans when it comes to basketball. But you always have that minority of fans who "root for players." Like in the 90's, they cheered for the Bulls, in the 2000's they all became Cavs fans, then Heat fans, and now they all have Cavs gear on again. And they are fun to have around.
To your point though, I was home from the first three-peat, and it was fun going to the grocery store and just talking to random people about the NBA Finals, knowing everyone was watching it. I remember when the Lakers won in 2002, when the final buzzer went off, people ran outside with Laker flags and blowing blow horns. My grandma also went outside, and she was so happy just like, "oh look at all the excitement!" It was a little community block party just out of happiness that the Lakers won. So I get your point, that only happens when the whole community is invested and people are all happy.
At the same time, isn't that what we have in football every year. Each year, millions of people pill into houses all over the nation to watch the Super Bowl, they all pick teams and cheer? Basketball, baseball, they are more regional sports. But football is more of a national sport. The games are more spread out, it's mainly watched on TV. Baseball, people talk about their dads taking them to the game to watch the local team. I've seen so many Angel and Dodger games in person, but I only saw one Raiders game in 1993. And not because they moved in 1995, but because football games are expensive and hard to get in to. Maybe I'm off, but to me, football is easier to root for different teams. All the games are televised nationally, you have access to different teams in your local market each week, and it's only one game a week so it's easier to follow. In baseball or basketball, you have more games to watch each week, and it's hard to follow the storyline.
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
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^ where u livin now
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Still waiting for a whole new Gap of reciever. Then you could decide who you for
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^ where u livin now
he moved to Australia
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Remedy makes excellent points
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
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But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
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Remedy makes excellent points
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
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But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
I believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history"..
Whoops, fucked up your post by clicking modify rather than quote, still not used to mod buttons LOL
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Remedy makes excellent points
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/003/467/989/hi-res-328050-apr-1998-former-pro-wrestler-jesse-the-body-ventura-cheers_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75)
But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
no, considering you were born and raised in or around LA, LA teams should remain your teams, no matter where u move...it'd be understandable if u made the t-wolves your secondary team, but to abandon the lakers and start rooting for the t-wolves 1st would actually be faulty imo. i believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history"..or the nerd who follows the cavs because lebron james has big muscles. shit like that is pathetic.....and ice cube was 12 when raiders moved to LA, so i duno if he was a big football fan before that, but even then, it's a bad look if he was turning his back on the team reppin his hometown to root for oakland. in that case, cube was faulty too.....but either way, cube shows home support to every team out here, so u gota respect that. same goes for snoop n most other entertainer out there. rep where u from, bottom line.
For Ice Cube, he always talked about the rebel image of the Raiders, and the swagger and winning that the Raiders did. Also talked about how many in LA had crazy relatives in the Bay who loved the Raiders, and for him that stuck. He wasn't completely sold on the Raiders until 1980, when he was 11, so he must have gone back and forth between them and the Rams. But before they moved to LA, he was already rooting for the Raiders over the Rams. In 1982, the Raiders moved, so he talked about how happy was that his favorite team was were he was.
He also posted this on his Facebook...
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"You can bring the St. Louis Rams and the San Diego Chargers to L.A. if you want, but my heart will always be in Oakland."
And for fans like him, I feel him. As I've always said about the Raiders, as long as they are in California, they'll be my team. If they move to San Antonio, then I'm done with them, can't root for a team in Texas. I'll go as far as Las Vegas. LOL... because I love Las Vegas, and the Raiders would be perfect there. But I ain't root for no team past that.
Also, I think of LeBron fans, they remind me of Jordan fans. I have some my age that still root for the Bulls, but they also root for the Clippers now. I've mention them before. I just think they are natural agitators, and over the years I just accept them. In Minnesota, those fans are Packer fans here, they grew up in Minnesota but love the Packers.
What will be funny is my sons. My 5 year old already loves the Raiders and Lakers and he's born here. He only goes to California once a year in the summer, not even during basketball or football seasons. But he loves the Raiders and Lakers because he watches them with his dad... LOL... I am thinking of buying him a Minneapolis Lakers jacket or something, to rep his favorite basketball team and the city he's born in. LOL. We'll see. But others will think he's just like one of those Laker bandwagon fans that likes the Yankees and Cowboys.
As for my cousin, I mean, he likes the Chargers, so that's not suspect at all. That actually is dedication. The Yankees, I'm not sure. He's just always been a Yankees fan. Maybe it's from being a kid. Like me, when I was a kid, I was split between 4 football teams, 49ers because of Montana, the Bears because of the mascot, the Raiders because they were LA, and the Rams because the helmets and they were LA. After a while, I dropped the Bears first, then the Niners, because I just didn't relate to them as I got older. Then I dropped the Rams because the Raiders just had that image I liked. Maybe my cousin had the same thing, I never asked him. he liked a few teams as kid, but over time he just gravitated to the Yankees.
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Remedy makes excellent points
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
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But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
"I believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history".."
Bingo. To answer your earlier question I'm living in Hood River Oregon, not exactly a hotspot for sports lol
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I understand what Remedy is saying. I'm just arguing the other side, because lots of people root for teams outside their markets, and for different reasons.
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Supporting/wearing there jersey is gonna be straight-bitch shit.Sure ill go to there games because its fun. But i grew up washing east coast football so im east coast smash mouth football. Mark davis moves he is gonna get easy sued by fans cause his game been out of La a long ass time
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Supporting/wearing there jersey is gonna be straight-bitch shit.Sure ill go to there games because its fun. But i grew up washing east coast football so im east coast smash mouth football. Mark davis moves he is gonna get easy sued by fans cause his game been out of La a long ass time
Sued by fans? huh? What does that even mean?
Okay, so I've been following the Chargers to LA move. I originally thought it was a slam dunk. The NFL is pushing the Chargers, and the Chargers don't want two other teams in LA and then they'd be the step child down in San Diego. But looking at it closer, and hearing what's going on inside, I will raise the Raiders chance of moving to LA from 5% to 10%, and if the Chargers don't move by Feb. 1st, I'll give it a 50/50 for either team to move. The Chargers want LA badly, but they believe that Kroenke will screw them over in LA. Plus they don't have confidence to compete with the Rams in LA. There is some belief in the organization that the Chargers maybe better off in SD in a smaller pond, than in the larger ocean full of sharks. With that said, the NFL really wants the Chargers as the AFC team, NOT the Raiders, and they are really pushing.
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
least funny troll in dubcc history
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
least funny troll in dubcc history
Yeah, some trolls make you mad, some have had me ready to call some friends to mess up their computer, some make you laugh, some post porn, but this one just confuses me.
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
least funny troll in dubcc history
Yeah, some trolls make you mad, some have had me ready to call some friends to mess up their computer, some make you laugh, some post porn, but this one just confuses me.
it's done on purpose
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
least funny troll in dubcc history
Yeah, some trolls make you mad, some have had me ready to call some friends to mess up their computer, some make you laugh, some post porn, but this one just confuses me.
Haven't you seen this guy before? Virtually nothing he says makes any level of sense. Most of the time people just ignore him and he talks to himself. Easily the most pointless poster I've ever seen here. If he's actually looking to troll then he's even more retarded than he appears in his posts.
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Yeah, I never interacted with him, except for his post a pro-player thread which was I was trying to post Serena Williams and just posted dudes, so I was like, whatever. A very strange troll indeed.
So, in Rams news....
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/26123/todd-gurley-lands-pfwa-rookie-of-the-year-award
(http://prod.www.rams.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/STL/600x600-TG-2015-ROY.jpg)
The new Beast Mode.
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After it looked like Spanos and Kroenke were going to fall apart, the idea of the Raiders returning to LA to a solid fanbase brought Kroenke to his senses. It's said Kroenke and Spanos are in serious negotiations and the Chargers should be announced to return to LA in the next 2 weeks. I expect something soon, but as I mentioned if something ain't happening by Feb 1st, at least the end of that week, then all bets are off. But right now, it looks like Kroenke wants the Rams to be as popular as possible, and against the Chargers it's a safe bet.
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Gurley looks good on the stats ha
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I doubt skystalker can purchase a bootleg jersey
I re-read his post, I have no idea what he's trying to say. Rams are bitches, but he'll go to games, he likes east coast football, fans will sue Mark Davis? I'm so confused what that all means, like who will sue Mark Davis? Why like east coast football when all the football players come from Florida, Texas, or California? What makes the Rams bitches, like the team or the players?
least funny troll in dubcc history
Yeah, some trolls make you mad, some have had me ready to call some friends to mess up their computer, some make you laugh, some post porn, but this one just confuses me.
Haven't you seen this guy before? Virtually nothing he says makes any level of sense. Most of the time people just ignore him and he talks to himself. Easily the most pointless poster I've ever seen here. If he's actually looking to troll then he's even more retarded than he appears in his posts.
Its on purpose
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Yeah, man, this NFL move has really died down, as now we are talking about a troll instead of football in LA. So I'll say this...
It looks like Kroenke is pushing the Chargers to join, he said he doesn't want Raider fans in his new stadium. So he is pushing for the Chargers.
With that said, if the Chargers are announced in the next 2 weeks as moving to LA, which jersey do you get first, Rams or Chargers? Chargers are rumored to wear their powder blues if they move to LA.
(http://nflshop.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2125000/ff_2125740_xl.jpg&w=245)
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Honestly, I really want to see the Rams bring back their old jerseys. Something about it says LA way more than those gold ones. I though after they won the Super Bowl, the gold was cool for a while, but now I think it's time to go back and wear those old school Rams jerseys....
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^I AGREE, THAT BLUE N YELLOW IS LA SHIT....THE NEW SHIT IS COOL, BUT TOO BORING A COLOR SCHEME FOR A TEAM OUT HERE. THEYLL REBRAND ONCE THEY GET THEIR OWN STADIUM, EITHER WAY.
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^I AGREE, THAT BLUE N YELLOW IS LA SHIT....THE NEW SHIT IS COOL, BUT TOO BORING A COLOR SCHEME FOR A TEAM OUT HERE. THEYLL REBRAND ONCE THEY GET THEIR OWN STADIUM, EITHER WAY.
That's true. I'm sure it will take a couple of years to get the rebrand on point. When teams rebrand they usually hire a firm. The rebrand of the Rams to me would just be bring back the throwbacks for the LA Coliseum, then get something modern for the new home. But still, it's going to be cool to have football in LA again.
But in my ideal world, Rams are back to old LA Rams look, they break out yellow road jersey for Monday and Thursday Night Football games, because they once wore yellow road jerseys instead of white in the 70's to match the Lakers back in the day. The Chargers move to LA, put on those powder blues, and be the winning team for LA for a bit while the Rams continue their rebuild.
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http://thebiglead.com/2016/01/25/chargers-rams-los-angeles-talks-stalled/
Well, like I thought, if the Chargers and Rams don't come to an agreement by Feb. 1, then I think this relationship wouldn't be repaired. Mark Davis would love nothing more than to move the Raiders to the site that his father wanted the Raiders to move to, and regretted. In 1995, the Raiders were set to move to Inglewood with a $250 million stadium, but the NFL wanted them to take a second team. The Rams want a second team to share the cost of building a stadium, so if the Chargers don't move and the Raiders do, ironically it will be for the same deal Al Davis was trying to avoid in 1995, but his son now would be more than willing to.
Right now though, I'd still say the Chargers are more than likely moving to LA. I'm now saying it's 66%-34% in favor of the Chargers moving to LA over the Raiders. If the Raiders do move to LA, it will be next year, giving the Rams one whole year of LA to themselves. It maybe the best solution for all. The Rams to regain some fans after, and then the Raiders coming in and re-establishing Raider Nation, which is pretty larger in LA so it wouldn't need much time. But realistically, Spanos will get over he hates about Kroenke, and work out this deal for the Los Angeles Chargers.
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http://thebiglead.com/2016/01/25/chargers-rams-los-angeles-talks-stalled/
Well, like I thought, if the Chargers and Rams don't come to an agreement by Feb. 1, then I think this relationship wouldn't be repaired. Mark Davis would love nothing more than to move the Raiders to the site that his father wanted the Raiders to move to, and regretted. In 1995, the Raiders were set to move to Inglewood with a $250 million stadium, but the NFL wanted them to take a second team. The Rams want a second team to share the cost of building a stadium, so if the Chargers don't move and the Raiders do, ironically it will be for the same deal Al Davis was trying to avoid in 1995, but his son now would be more than willing to.
this would be ideal
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http://thebiglead.com/2016/01/25/chargers-rams-los-angeles-talks-stalled/
Well, like I thought, if the Chargers and Rams don't come to an agreement by Feb. 1, then I think this relationship wouldn't be repaired. Mark Davis would love nothing more than to move the Raiders to the site that his father wanted the Raiders to move to, and regretted. In 1995, the Raiders were set to move to Inglewood with a $250 million stadium, but the NFL wanted them to take a second team. The Rams want a second team to share the cost of building a stadium, so if the Chargers don't move and the Raiders do, ironically it will be for the same deal Al Davis was trying to avoid in 1995, but his son now would be more than willing to.
this would be ideal
Well rumor is the league might try to price Mark Davis out of a move to LA, because the league doesn't want a return to the 90's, and Kroenke said he doesn't want the Raider fans in his new stadium. With that said, he needs help paying for it, as he's taking out billion dollar loans, and Larry Ellison might buy a piece of the Raiders to finance the move. Ellison was rumored to be a secret Raider investor if they move, and he's richer than Kroenke. If the Chargers don't move to LA, which I still think is most likely, then you'll see the Raiders/Kroenke/Ellison saga play out.
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good color jersey
blue n yellow
im buying my boyfriend one
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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/san-diego-chargers-move-to-los-angeles-snapchat-logo-change-012716
Talks are back on! I would like to be the first to welcome the LA Chargers to Los Angeles.
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http://www.profootballrumors.com/chargers-to-remain-in-san-diego-for-2016/
On second thought, it's official, the Chargers are staying in San Diego and now next year the Raiders will be on the clock.
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the rams are gonna be as good as UCLA collage football