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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on January 25, 2016, 10:35:07 PM
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I have never seen domination like this, ever. I saw the 1996 Bulls, but this is on another level. All LeBron being top 5 talk is over. He is now a footnote squeezed between Kobe and Curry. I'm now a full on believer.
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lmao
ovary-action galore in your post
Curry still has 0 finals MVP awards lol
Warriors are def dominant as fuck but it's January. yeah Duncan wasn't gonna be the difference today but the playoffs are a different beast, and u know Silver gonna have the Cavs at full rest this time around
Curry is on his way to knocking Kobe outta the top 12 discussion though ;D JK obviously but he's 27 now in his prime so dudes gotta stay on this pace for years. he's well on his way to replacing Ray Allen as the best shooter ever :(
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LoL@knocking LeBron because the Warriors have been great for like 16 months. Typical Lakerfan behaviour.
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lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
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You're right scxit, Lebron is the best SF. So he wouldn't be 2nd.
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lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
Never said they were one of the greatest ever. They couldn't hang with the big men of the 80's or 90's. But, the level of dominance over who they are playing is second to none. They are so much better than everyone else in the league it's not funny.
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You're right scxit, Lebron is the best SF. So he wouldn't be 2nd.
currently durant>kawhi>lebron and that goes witout sayin
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lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
Never said they were one of the greatest ever. They couldn't hang with the big men of the 80's or 90's. But, the level of dominance over who they are playing is second to none. They are so much better than everyone else in the league it's not funny.
cuz the league sucks...thats what im sayin.
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You're right scxit, Lebron is the best SF. So he wouldn't be 2nd.
currently durant>kawhi>lebron and that goes witout sayin
That's not off. Look at all my past post over the last 5 years. Sccit got mad at me at the time, but I said then, LeBron's game doesn't allow him to be as good as he is for long. I think Kawhi is way better than LeBron, and Durant is neck and neck with him. So with that said, this is LeBron's swan song as a top player. he has 2, maybe 3 more years in this upper level, and then plain crash. The thing is, he doesn't have a team to beat the Warriors.
lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
Never said they were one of the greatest ever. They couldn't hang with the big men of the 80's or 90's. But, the level of dominance over who they are playing is second to none. They are so much better than everyone else in the league it's not funny.
cuz the league sucks...thats what im sayin.
Doesn't matter if the league sucks. It goes to my arguments I've always used, you can only be judged against the people you go against. LeBron dominated in an era that was not very good, but it doesn't take away that he dominated scrubs. The Lakers in the 80's were always in the finals because the west in the 80's was horrible. You can only be judged by the talent around you. Could the 2016 Warriors beat the 1996 Bulls, I don't think so. But are the 2016 Warriors the most dominate team in 2016, yes and it's not even close. The league may suck, but the Warriors still have to win. Two years ago I got frustrated because the league sucked and no one wanted to step up, and the Spurs won it all. I was saying it then, no one wanted to be great. Now the Warriors have filled that role. They are so driven in a league of everyone going on neutral. I don't care if the rest of the league sucks, I love that the Warriors are this good.
Please note, due to the Raiders moving talk, I have listened to a lot of Bay Area sports radio online... LOL... and I have drank the Kool-Aid. At the same time, I didn't believe it until I saw they murder the Spurs.
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
And in 2016, LeBron James ain't shit period. Your point?
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
And in 2016, LeBron James ain't shit period. Your point?
Hes averaging 25 you retard lol
Who hurt you growing up??
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
And in 2016, LeBron James ain't shit period. Your point?
Hes averaging 25 you retard lol his team is the 1 seed in the more competitive conference
Who hurt you growing up??
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
And in 2016, LeBron James ain't shit period. Your point?
Hes averaging 25 you retard lol
Who hurt you growing up??
He ain't what he was, and his team hit their coach fired.
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You're right scxit, Lebron is the best SF. So he wouldn't be 2nd.
currently durant>kawhi>lebron and that goes witout sayin
That's not off. Look at all my past post over the last 5 years. Sccit got mad at me at the time, but I said then, LeBron's game doesn't allow him to be as good as he is for long. I think Kawhi is way better than LeBron, and Durant is neck and neck with him. So with that said, this is LeBron's swan song as a top player. he has 2, maybe 3 more years in this upper level, and then plain crash. The thing is, he doesn't have a team to beat the Warriors.
lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
Never said they were one of the greatest ever. They couldn't hang with the big men of the 80's or 90's. But, the level of dominance over who they are playing is second to none. They are so much better than everyone else in the league it's not funny.
cuz the league sucks...thats what im sayin.
Doesn't matter if the league sucks. It goes to my arguments I've always used, you can only be judged against the people you go against. LeBron dominated in an era that was not very good, but it doesn't take away that he dominated scrubs. The Lakers in the 80's were always in the finals because the west in the 80's was horrible. You can only be judged by the talent around you. Could the 2016 Warriors beat the 1996 Bulls, I don't think so. But are the 2016 Warriors the most dominate team in 2016, yes and it's not even close. The league may suck, but the Warriors still have to win. Two years ago I got frustrated because the league sucked and no one wanted to step up, and the Spurs won it all. I was saying it then, no one wanted to be great. Now the Warriors have filled that role. They are so driven in a league of everyone going on neutral. I don't care if the rest of the league sucks, I love that the Warriors are this good.
Please note, due to the Raiders moving talk, I have listened to a lot of Bay Area sports radio online... LOL... and I have drank the Kool-Aid. At the same time, I didn't believe it until I saw they murder the Spurs.
I don't doubt that the warriors are an excellent team .. What I'm saying is that they're made to look greater than they are by the level of competition around.
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Kawhi Leonard ain't shit without Duncan around, look at last night's game
Duncan is role player status right now, even rondo is better
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You're right scxit, Lebron is the best SF. So he wouldn't be 2nd.
currently durant>kawhi>lebron and that goes witout sayin
That's not off. Look at all my past post over the last 5 years. Sccit got mad at me at the time, but I said then, LeBron's game doesn't allow him to be as good as he is for long. I think Kawhi is way better than LeBron, and Durant is neck and neck with him. So with that said, this is LeBron's swan song as a top player. he has 2, maybe 3 more years in this upper level, and then plain crash. The thing is, he doesn't have a team to beat the Warriors.
lebron is not even the 2nd best small forward in the league right now, so we can kill that off-top.....and the warriors are nice, but they not as good as their record indicates. why, u ask? because the level of play in the nba is at an all-time low. you take this warrior team and put them in the 80s/90s, and they have at least 15 losses by now, which is good, but not all-time great....so yea, they most likely heading for another 1, but lets kill that noise about them being one of the greatest teams ever....until they win at least 3 straight, that is.
Never said they were one of the greatest ever. They couldn't hang with the big men of the 80's or 90's. But, the level of dominance over who they are playing is second to none. They are so much better than everyone else in the league it's not funny.
cuz the league sucks...thats what im sayin.
Doesn't matter if the league sucks. It goes to my arguments I've always used, you can only be judged against the people you go against. LeBron dominated in an era that was not very good, but it doesn't take away that he dominated scrubs. The Lakers in the 80's were always in the finals because the west in the 80's was horrible. You can only be judged by the talent around you. Could the 2016 Warriors beat the 1996 Bulls, I don't think so. But are the 2016 Warriors the most dominate team in 2016, yes and it's not even close. The league may suck, but the Warriors still have to win. Two years ago I got frustrated because the league sucked and no one wanted to step up, and the Spurs won it all. I was saying it then, no one wanted to be great. Now the Warriors have filled that role. They are so driven in a league of everyone going on neutral. I don't care if the rest of the league sucks, I love that the Warriors are this good.
Please note, due to the Raiders moving talk, I have listened to a lot of Bay Area sports radio online... LOL... and I have drank the Kool-Aid. At the same time, I didn't believe it until I saw they murder the Spurs.
I don't doubt that the warriors are an excellent team .. What I'm saying is that they're made to look greater than they are by the level of competition around.
And i agree and say it doesn't matter because Jerry West created a super team in an era of softness.
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I have never seen domination like this, ever. I saw the 1996 Bulls, but this is on another level. All LeBron being top 5 talk is over. He is now a footnote squeezed between Kobe and Curry. I'm now a full on believer.
This faggot is too scared to log in now
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bump for M Fraud
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Hahahaha... obviously the reports of LeBron's death are greatly exaggerated. Even by me. I finally saw what I've wanted to see out of LeBron when Sccit and I would argue over how great he is.
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PS, I still don't have him in my top 5, but I don't rank active players and I still haven't even figured where I put Kobe. But if LeBron quits tomorrow, I'd say he's easily go in my top 10 and more than likely over Bird. And to most people, Bird is a top 5 player.
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All props to Lebron, but let's not forget that stephs choke job played a major role in Cleveland winning .. Steph is the new Lebron
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LeBron coaching the defense with the IQ of Jesus Christ himself, was why Steph didn't produce.
Back to back Finals against the Cavs, he didn't play up to his typical par. That's a sick game plan by the greatest player in the sport.
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LeBron coaching the defense with the IQ of Jesus Christ himself, was why Steph didn't produce.
Back to back Finals against the Cavs, he didn't play up to his typical par. That's a sick game plan by the greatest player in the sport.
Steph didnt produce because he choked .. And because Kyrie locked him down, which is why U had folks arguing Kyrie for finals mvp .. Lebron had a great final 3 games tho, but let's not act like he wiped the floor wit these warriors. Showtime lakers woulda swept them. Threepeat lakers woulda swept em. Kobe-Pau lakers woulda won in 5 or 6 games max.
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lmao, so the new argument is getting away from achievements as Bron achieves more & more & change the narrative to who would beat who in the past? lol. Okay.
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lmao, so the new argument is getting away from achievements as Bron achieves more & more & change the narrative to who would beat who in the past? lol. Okay.
No it's still achievements .. I went on record and said that if Lebron gets to 5, that's when he gets placed in the top echelon of MJ-magic-Kobe-Kareem. Right now, he's still in tier 2 reaching for tier 1....if he can play a whole series the way he played in the final 3 games vs GS, then he has taken that next step. Only time will tell. I wouldn't be surprised either way, Lebron seems to be bipolar in terms of which version will show up. Up until game 4, he was pretty much widely recognized as bein the greatest choke-artist ever. When draymond called out his manhood, it woke somethin up in him .. Don't act like u ain't seen that.
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hilarious ;D
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hilarious ;D
Hilarious is acting like there aren't other all time goats who woulda swept these warriors and not go down to the wire of a 7 game where the opposing teams best player was the 6th-7th best player on the court. Be real brodie.
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you mad :banana:
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Gotta get out from under this rock & join the real world, fam lmfao.
https://www.youtube.com/v/4-uwtKRtCFA
This is the conversation the rest of the world havin', bruh lol.
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U must not have been listening to most the coverage during the finals then .. Talks was of Lebron bein done up until the draymond incident. How he about to be 2/7 in the finals, which woulda been deplorable and was very close to happening .. And realistically, was a draymond suspension away from bein just that. But I already said, Lebron moved up on my list after the way he stepped up in the final 3 games, I thought that was pure greatness .. Just still not in the top echelon, at the end of the day, he's STILL 3-7 in finals play .. He will need to get that Finals record to AT THE VERY LEAST .500 to be considered amongst the top tier goats.
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you having conversations with yourself doesn't count brodie
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you having conversations with yourself doesn't count brodie
Lol don't act like u don't post on the coli, smh @ the fakery
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This nigga watched Kobe blaze through the mighty Orlando Magic & be the second best player on his team for three titles & talking greatness lmao.
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This nigga watched Kobe blaze through the mighty Orlando Magic & be the second best player on his team for three titles & talking greatness lmao.
for your own lebron nuthuggin sake, dont take it their brodie…..kobe played in the WEST, meaning he started out facin stiff competition in early may. not in june ala lebron, who always had cakewalks to the finals playin out east. so right now, lebron is 3/7 in the finals….you put him out west, and the over/under on how many finals he even reaches falls to 3. we all know this, so if u dont want me to destroy your lebron fantasies, leave it at that….
as for kobe winning as the 2nd best player, shaq called kobe the best player in the world in 2001 (before you were born, so i dont blame you for not knowin this)…..shaq used to dominate the finals vs the weakass east, but it's a known fact that kobe was doin most the damage vs the western conference teams, where the real competition was.
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What a moron lmaooo. In that scenario LeBron is in the West...who is to say he's not on those Suns teams with actual teammates? Or with Melo? Or even on the Spurs? lmao.
That argument is so corny because you say it like "Oh, he couldn't play on the worst team in the West in win"...yeah, sure...take that to the bank, champ. But you put the greatest talent since Jordan on any of those competitive teams in the West & the disparity would as great as it is in the East.
That's what greatness is. The reality is, nigga you lucky he was stuck in the East on a shitty ass roster or Kobe would be stuck at 3 Shaq rings.
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What a moron lmaooo. In that scenario LeBron is in the West...who is to say he's not on those Suns teams with actual teammates? Or with Melo? Or even on the Spurs? lmao.
That argument is so corny because you say it like "Oh, he couldn't play on the worst team in the West in win"...yeah, sure...take that to the bank, champ. But you put the greatest talent since Jordan on any of those competitive teams in the West & the disparity would as great as it is in the East.
That's what greatness is. The reality is, nigga you lucky he was stuck in the East on a shitty ass roster or Kobe would be stuck at 3 Shaq rings.
wait a minute….so lebron has played on superteams for the past 6 seasons and now you're saying his teams would get even better? lmfao. how many teams out there got more than 3 franchise players young'n? stop that……take lebrons heat or lebrons cavs. put them in the west. they are not reaching the finals nearly as much as they did, if at all….and u know this, so why even argue back?
but somehow, u flip it to "you lucky he was stuck in the east"….but when kobe was winnin rings, lebron wasnt even good enough to reach the finals out east. EVEN WHEN HIS TEAM WAS FAVORED TO DO SO. so somehow he woulda figured a way to beat the team (lakers) that put out the team he lost to (boston)…yea ok, that makes a great deal of sense buddy.
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Bro, fuck the last six seasons lmfao. I'm talking the 5-peat he missed from '06-'10 when he was a solid roster around him from being unbeatable. 2007 was one of the most impressive Finals runs we low key ever seen, but super pro-Jordan guys only got us talking about the winners, not the great stories. But you give me Bron on Dallas/Suns/Hornets/Jazz/Nuggets/Rockets/obviously Spurs...I'd call anybody idiotic to not see BARE MINIMUM 3/5 rings, if not an honestly possible 5-peat.
That Cavs team was literally a sub-25 win team all those years, maybe peaking to a 35-40(at most) win team even towards the end of his first Cleveland run lmao.
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Bro, fuck the last six seasons lmfao. I'm talking the 5-peat he missed from '06-'10 when he was a solid roster around him from being unbeatable. 2007 was one of the most impressive Finals runs we low key ever seen, but super pro-Jordan guys only got us talking about the winners, not the great stories. But you give me Bron on Dallas/Suns/Hornets/Jazz/Nuggets/Rockets/obviously Spurs...I'd call anybody idiotic to not see BARE MINIMUM 3/5 rings, if not an honestly possible 5-peat.
That Cavs team was literally a sub-25 win team all those years, maybe peaking to a 35-40(at most) win team even towards the end of his first Cleveland run lmao.
man….u lebron apologists just love to underrate the help he had in his first cleveland stint. those teams were amongst the best in the league defensively, and had every area covered (rebounding, rim protecting, shooters, perimeter d, slashers, playmakers)…if u remember, the narrative on that team was ALWAYS how they were by far the deepest team in the league. now, just cuz they didnt have 4 franchise players like lebron is used to on one team does not mean that those teams werent nice. they were like what kobe had (only kobes casts were not as good defensively), and kobe managed to win wit his average supporting cast IN THE WEST….so if lebron couldnt do it IN THE EAST, i dont even wana hear it.
so lets flip the script…..you put lebron on the lakers with pau gasol as his robin (which would be equivalent to him having love or bosh as a second option), and theres absolutely no way he wins. especially not out west. can you imagine lebron wit lamar odom? lmfao. he'd end his career quicker than he ended larry hughes'……aint no way lebron winnin out west, unless it was for some extremely fabricated superteam (better than the superteams he played wit out east)……but i'll give lebron one thing, he's smart. smart as hell for stayin out east where he had a much MUCH greater chance at winnin. he knew what was best for him and he stuck to it.
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1. Opposite side of the spectrum when judging those teams. They were good at all of those things WITH HIM being the reason. You replace him with any player in the league at that time & they go from 60+ win teams to .500 at best with a Kobe; who wouldn't have been able to blend that team together.
2. Bruh, that's such a reach. You just saying that you "don't believe" he coulda beat other West teams if he was on the Lakers because of weird personnel fits. It still says something I can name 5-6 teams he would of fit way better & stronger with that would of beat the rest of those 06-10 West teams. Even Kobe's Lakers. It all gets back to don't take it to "he was in the weak East, blah blah." because it shows the greatness he would've achieved being on a better roster in the west.
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1. Opposite side of the spectrum when judging those teams. They were good at all of those things WITH HIM being the reason. You replace him with any player in the league at that time & they go from 60+ win teams to .500 at best with a Kobe; who wouldn't have been able to blend that team together.
lol the fuck u talkin about…their biggest strength was their D. again. those cavs teams were BUILT TO WIN. you replace lebron with durant on those teams, and they just as good. Kobe woulda took em to the finals in the east EVERY YEAR. Kobe was pushin the 2nd seeded Suns to 7 IN THE WEST with kwame brown, smush parker, and luke walton in the starting lineup…..back in those days, kobe woulda won it all wit ANY team built to win.
2. Bruh, that's such a reach. You just saying that you "don't believe" he coulda beat other West teams if he was on the Lakers because of weird personnel fits. It still says something I can name 5-6 teams he would of fit way better & stronger with that would of beat the rest of those 06-10 West teams. Even Kobe's Lakers. It all gets back to don't take it to "he was in the weak East, blah blah." because it shows the greatness he would've achieved being on a better roster in the west.
my dude, i duno what u dont get here….the teams he played for were already great. on every team he played with over the past 6 season, he had TWO FRANCHISE PLAYERS playin by his side….so what are u tryna say, he'd have 4 franchise players on one team if he played out west? it jus dont work like that fam…..kobe only had 1 other franchise player in pau (and some wont even consider him a franchise player)…..so naah, lebron in the west doesnt get the benefit of even more franchise players, because the teams he built in the east are already more stacked than any team out west, so in essence, your point is baseless.
keep it simple and to the point, if the cavs came and played out west this year, their chances of winnin it all would dip by about 70%….
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Na, fam. This is why I can't post & talk sports as much anymore. It's like talking to a wall lmao. A double standard havin wall lol.
Downplays the Lakers the cast, who was the best roster in the league when Kobe won his post Shaq titles...only person on the planet to shit on the rest of that Lakers team. *waits for you to reference "the coli" like a few other Kobe loving Laker fans ain't gonna pull whatever straws they can*
Overplays how good LeBron's first Cleveland teams were...only person on the planet to actually believe that. Refuses to look at the '07 run & can't put two & two together that any of those Western teams I mentioned woulda been a dynasty if he played in the West lmao.
Nigga went into super robot, auto-response mode for four years when he was in Miami because he had Wade & Bosh & a "super team"...and a bunch of rookies or a bunch of dudes in their final years of playing...yet refuses to see how much better those big 3 (that turned into a big 4) Celtics teams were than what LeBron was given. The fact you think those Cleveland teams should of beaten 3 future hall of famers & at the time a top 5 pg in the league is just a testament to LeBron's greatness.
When Kobe was allowed a cake walked ring against a Magic team he was clearly better than, you make Orlando sound like the '16 Warriors...when talking about LeBron losing to them, you act like the Orlando Magic were the worst team in history lmao.
Gotta clean up your arguments if you wanna box with god, fam.
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Na, fam. This is why I can't post & talk sports as much anymore. It's like talking to a wall lmao. A double standard havin wall lol.
Downplays the Lakers the cast, who was the best roster in the league when Kobe won his post Shaq titles...only person on the planet to shit on the rest of that Lakers team. *waits for you to reference "the coli" like a few other Kobe loving Laker fans ain't gonna pull whatever straws they can*
Overplays how good LeBron's first Cleveland teams were...only person on the planet to actually believe that. Refuses to look at the '07 run & can't put two & two together that any of those Western teams I mentioned woulda been a dynasty if he played in the West lmao.
Nigga went into super robot, auto-response mode for four years when he was in Miami because he had Wade & Bosh & a "super team"...and a bunch of rookies or a bunch of dudes in their final years of playing...yet refuses to see how much better those big 3 (that turned into a big 4) Celtics teams were than what LeBron was given. The fact you think those Cleveland teams should of beaten 3 future hall of famers & at the time a top 5 pg in the league is just a testament to LeBron's greatness.
When Kobe was allowed a cake walked ring against a Magic team he was clearly better than, you make Orlando sound like the '16 Warriors...when talking about LeBron losing to them, you act like the Orlando Magic were the worst team in history lmao.
Gotta clean up your arguments if you wanna box with god, fam.
you're talkin in circles, nothin u said has discredited any of my arguments ……… then u end with "clean up your arguments". first you gota shoot mine down brodie…….facts, lebron had a team that was favored to win it all in 2010 and he quit on them. in the middle of that season, he was already having conversations with wade and bosh about building a superteam down in miami…WHILE HE WAS STILL PLAYIN ON THE FAVROITES-TO-WIN-IT-ALL CAVS TEAM…that team was up 2-1 against boston, and then he quit on them, like durant did on okc…..because he had his mind set (be it consciously or subconsciously) on joining the heat. so yea, miss me wit that "cleveland didnt have the tools"….again, top defense in the league…..thats not a testament of one player, but rather a collection of players…great defense is a collective accomplishment. at the end of the day, you guna say whatever u feel like to overstate lebron's greatness….but you'll never be able to shoot my arguments down, because theyre based in FACTS.