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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: 7even on July 04, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
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This is much worse than what LeBron did with the Heat... will be (social) media backlash be even close to as crazy? Of course not.
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its pretty bad lol
the raiders QB is sticking up for him on twitter
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Its funny seeing Durant bitch out and join the Warriors after he called people out for doing this shit a couple times already.
LeBron beat Curry and KD in two separate finals, so I guess you got to do what you got to do ahaha
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No it's not worse because a.lebron left his home town b.lebron made a commercial spectacle out of it by announcing it on a tv special he put together and c.lebron predetermined his decision by gathering wade and bosh and having bosh come along with him on the low.
But yea, it's still pretty bad in terms of joining the team you sposta be putting out .. Just not AS BAD
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No it's not worse because a.lebron left his home town b.lebron made a commercial spectacle out of it by announcing it on a tv special he put together and c.lebron predetermined his decision by gathering wade and bosh and having bosh come along with him on the low.
But yea, it's still pretty bad in terms of joining the team you sposta be putting out .. Just not AS BAD
I agree what LeBron did was bullshit the way he went about it. But were talking about Durant here, and the fact he had some shit to say about what LeBron and other guys did makes him look like a hypocrite.
And regarding Bosh, everyone knew Bosh was leaving Toronto. He signed with the Heat before LeBron did too.
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In my subjective opinion it is even worse because
a.) OKC was a much much better team, with Westbrook being even better than Wade was in 2011
b.) He just lost narrowly against the GSW and many would argue that he was supposed to win if he wasn't bitch-made
c.) He joins an already intact team that won 73 games and went to Game 7 in the Finals and already one a championship. He isn't bulding anything.
He is basically doing what 38-year-old future HOFers do when they are chasing the ring that eludes them. Only that he is in his fucking prime making major bucks.
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No it's not worse because a.lebron left his home town b.lebron made a commercial spectacle out of it by announcing it on a tv special he put together and c.lebron predetermined his decision by gathering wade and bosh and having bosh come along with him on the low.
But yea, it's still pretty bad in terms of joining the team you sposta be putting out .. Just not AS BAD
1-Lebron didn't join a 73 win team after losing a 3-1 lead to them in the playoffs
2-Akron is Lebron's hometown, Cleveland is a different city in case you were unaware.
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One question about this. Isn't there a salary cap still in the NBA?
I mean ya'll are assuming that players in the past simply had more loyalty, but it used to be financially impractical to add a star player to an already championship caliber team. For example, say that Jordan couldn't beat out the Pistons in the late 80's. The Pistons already had a top squad which means they were already paying for top talent with Isiah and their various role players. Or for Jordan to join the Lakers wouldn't have been possible because they already had money spent on Magic, Worthy, etc.
These days it seems like teams have the ability to sign 3 or even 4 top salary players. Back in the day it seemed like financially teams were only able to pay 1 guy and the other star on the team was usually underpaid. Like Pippen was never really paid well in Chicago. Rodman was never paid much in Detroit.
The first time this was ever done was when aging stars like Malone and Payton went to LA for way less money because they were over the hill. So they were still big names but no longer expensive players. Then the Celtics were able to get Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen and since then things have really gotten crazy the kind of money teams are able to throw at 3 or 4 stars.
Can someone explain the salary cap logistics of all of this?
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One question about this. Isn't there a salary cap still in the NBA?
I mean ya'll are assuming that players in the past simply had more loyalty, but it used to be financially impractical to add a star player to an already championship caliber team. For example, say that Jordan couldn't beat out the Pistons in the late 80's. The Pistons already had a top squad which means they were already paying for top talent with Isiah and their various role players. Or for Jordan to join the Lakers wouldn't have been possible because they already had money spent on Magic, Worthy, etc.
These days it seems like teams have the ability to sign 3 or even 4 top salary players. Back in the day it seemed like financially teams were only able to pay 1 guy and the other star on the team was usually underpaid. Like Pippen was never really paid well in Chicago. Rodman was never paid much in Detroit.
The first time this was ever done was when aging stars like Malone and Payton went to LA for way less money because they were over the hill. So they were still big names but no longer expensive players. Then the Celtics were able to get Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen and since then things have really gotten crazy the kind of money teams are able to throw at 3 or 4 stars.
Can someone explain the salary cap logistics of all of this?
salary cap went up a lot this year and is going up even more next year
Mike Conley just signed a 5 year, 153 million dollar deal with Memphis...dude is making more than any NFL player lol
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No it's not worse because a.lebron left his home town b.lebron made a commercial spectacle out of it by announcing it on a tv special he put together and c.lebron predetermined his decision by gathering wade and bosh and having bosh come along with him on the low.
But yea, it's still pretty bad in terms of joining the team you sposta be putting out .. Just not AS BAD
I agree what LeBron did was bullshit the way he went about it. But were talking about Durant here, and the fact he had some shit to say about what LeBron and other guys did makes him look like a hypocrite.
And regarding Bosh, everyone knew Bosh was leaving Toronto. He signed with the Heat before LeBron did too.
Yea bosh signed because it was a joint decision between him Lebron n wade .. But I definitely agree that what durant is doing here is weak. "If u can't beat em join um" to the fullest, only they could have beat them and were a couple plays away from doin so.
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In my subjective opinion it is even worse because
a.) OKC was a much much better team, with Westbrook being even better than Wade was in 2011
b.) He just lost narrowly against the GSW and many would argue that he was supposed to win if he wasn't bitch-made
c.) He joins an already intact team that won 73 games and went to Game 7 in the Finals and already one a championship. He isn't bulding anything.
He is basically doing what 38-year-old future HOFers do when they are chasing the ring that eludes them. Only that he is in his fucking prime making major bucks.
Naah bro .. Cleveland was favorite to win it all in 2010 before Lebron left, nothin objective about your opinion, you just a Lebron fan comin subjective to the fullest extent. Also, Lebron joined a team in collusion with two other players, which was a big part of the backlash. At the end of the day, both scenarios are weak.. But to say this one is weaker than "the decision" is a stretch.
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No it's not worse because a.lebron left his home town b.lebron made a commercial spectacle out of it by announcing it on a tv special he put together and c.lebron predetermined his decision by gathering wade and bosh and having bosh come along with him on the low.
But yea, it's still pretty bad in terms of joining the team you sposta be putting out .. Just not AS BAD
1-Lebron didn't join a 73 win team after losing a 3-1 lead to them in the playoffs
2-Akron is Lebron's hometown, Cleveland is a different city in case you were unaware.
It doesn't matter, Lebron is responsible for the economy of Ohio as a whole, his home state .. And Akron is right next to Cleveland. Lebron didn't join a 73 win team but he did join a top 3 NBA player (at the time) and a former finals mvp ... AND brought along another franchise player with him. A fabricated superteam, no matter how u slice it.
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did lebron have westbrook on his team already? no
not even close to the same
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Y'all still combat with this nigga about shit he already picked a side on lmfao.
Anyway, this Durant thing is the saddest thing I've ever seen from a superstar.
Also, they just signed David West.
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Nigga up 3-1, chokes and joins them. LOL
How's the backlash compared to LeBron after The Decision? I am not as involved in American pop culture as I used to be and have little insight. I'm not a twitter/instagram/vine kinda guy.
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Nigga up 3-1, chokes and joins them. LOL
How's the backlash compared to LeBron after The Decision? I am not as involved in American pop culture as I used to be and have little insight. I'm not a twitter/instagram/vine kinda guy.
fans are mad but the media isnt nearly as hard in him as Lebron 6 years ago
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did lebron have westbrook on his team already? no
not even close to the same
Was okc favored to win it all this year? It doesn't all come down to one player, as a team, that Cleveland team was expected to go farther than okc .. I believe they mighta even had a better record . They were one of the best defensive teams in the league. That means Lebron clearly had the opportunity to win there, but elected to go the easier route.
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did lebron have westbrook on his team already? no
not even close to the same
Was okc favored to win it all this year? It doesn't all come down to one player, as a team, that Cleveland team was expected to go farther than okc .. I believe they mighta even had a better record . They were one of the best defensive teams in the league. That means Lebron clearly had the opportunity to win there, but elected to go the easier route.
cavs were never favorites to win the title, where are you pulling this from? nobody ever expected them over Boston
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did lebron have westbrook on his team already? no
not even close to the same
Was okc favored to win it all this year? It doesn't all come down to one player, as a team, that Cleveland team was expected to go farther than okc .. I believe they mighta even had a better record . They were one of the best defensive teams in the league. That means Lebron clearly had the opportunity to win there, but elected to go the easier route.
cavs were never favorites to win the title, where are you pulling this from? nobody ever expected them over Boston
cleveland was favored over boston in 2010
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Updated-odds-to-win-2010-championship-following-?urn=nba,174375
and then heading into the playoffs, they were favored to win it all over the lakers based on season records. do some research.
cleveland: 61 wins
lakers: 57 wins
celtics: 50 wins
but lebron didn't have enough :laugh:
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that shows more to the greatness of Lebron James, the best player of our life time, than it does to the team he left that became a lottery team afterwards
he never had a chance at beating those Celtics teams though, we were STACKED those years. shame Perk got hurt and ruined everything.
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that shows more to the greatness of Lebron James, the best player of our life time, than it does to the team he left that became a lottery team afterwards
he never had a chance at beating those Celtics teams though, we were STACKED those years. shame Perk got hurt and ruined everything.
LOL WASNT CLEVELAND UP 2-1 IN THAT SERIES? STOP THAT....THE ENTIRE TEAM LEFT WIT LEBRON. BOTTOM LINE, THEY HAD A NICE SHOT AT WINNIN AND LEBRON DIDNT GET IT DONE.
HE LEFT A TEAM WIT THE MOST WINS IN THE LEAGUE THAT YEAR TO BUILD A SUPER TEAM IN SOUTH BEACH, AND WENT ABOUT IT IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY.....THATS WHY HE GETS MORE BACKLASH THAN DURANT. EVEN THO THEY BOTH DID SOME WEAK SHIT, LEBRON'S WAS WEAKER FOR THE FACT THAT HE ANNOUNCED IT IN A FUNNY STYLE WAY AND THAT HE ACTUALLY LEFT THE STATE HE WAS BORN N RAISED IN.....AND BET MONEY IF MIAMI DIDNT FALL APART IN 2014 N LOST TO SAN ANTONIO, LEBRON WOULDA STAYED THERE N NEVER RETURNED TO CLEVELAND.
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wasn't Cleveland up 2-1 over GSW when Love and Irving were out? 2-1 leads from massive underdogs happen breh
those Cavs were ass out except for Bron...there's a reason he leaves them and they go into tank mode. Durant leaves OKC and they only can go into tank mode if they trade Westbrook to the Celtics for that Nets pick
lol @ thinking the Cavs were better than the Celtics :laugh:
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wasn't Cleveland up 2-1 over GSW when Love and Irving were out? 2-1 leads from massive underdogs happen breh
those Cavs were ass out except for Bron...there's a reason he leaves them and they go into tank mode. Durant leaves OKC and they only can go into tank mode if they trade Westbrook to the Celtics for that Nets pick
lol @ thinking the Cavs were better than the Celtics :laugh:
Yea... Only they weren't massive underdogs, because they were favored to win.
Your point is gettin u nowhere, because Lebron still left a team that was built to win and even favored to win it all. While Durant also left a team that was built to win, they weren't as good and never favored to win it all brobro.
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The only reason why the Cavs were good was LeBron... in his prime, he would have made the Bucks a good RS team and "contenders". LeBron was simply much better than Durant is now. But Durant is leaving a player better than LeBron ever had during his career and much better teammates overall. And he is joining the same team that kicked him out of the playoffs who would be favorites to win it all without him. It's like Magic joining the Celtics after the 1984 championship. LOL
Not to mention this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmiBdKUWEAA1Q6i.jpg:small)
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The only reason why the Cavs were good was LeBron... in his prime, he would have made the Bucks a good RS team and "contenders". LeBron was simply much better than Durant is now. But Durant is leaving a player better than LeBron ever had during his career and much better teammates overall. And he is joining the same team that kicked him out of the playoffs who would be favorites to win it all without him. It's like Magic joining the Celtics after the 1984 championship. LOL
Not to mention this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmiBdKUWEAA1Q6i.jpg:small)
Nope .. Cavs were an amazing defensive unit, one of the best analytically in the NBA .. They had shooters, bigs, wing defenders, rim protectors, rebounders, three point specialists, pretty much every aspect an NBA team needs covered to compete .. They were considered the deepest team in the league that year .. Revisionists and Lebron lovers such as yourself will re-write history to make it out like Lebron was behind any and all of Clevelands success, but you coulda replaced Lebron wit durant and they still woulda been favored to come out the east .. Analytically, they were on another plateau.. But ima let u cook and rewrite the script to fit your narrative .... Lebron fans love doing that .... In ten years, cats like u guna be claiming that Lebron was single handedly responsible for Clevelands 2016 championship .. You guna make out Kyrie Irving to be Dee Brown or some shit, and play his surroundings down as much as you verbally can to lift your king to the highest regard possible. I've seen it enough times to know.
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Irving is far behind prime-Wade, Westbrook or Curry, but he sure as hell ain't no Eric Snow either. I think people will remember that even 10 years from now.
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Lol Eric Snow was not even on the Cavs team in question, try again folks
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lol at NIK grasping for reasons to hate lebron :laugh:
the block >
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the block >
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lol at NIK grasping for reasons to hate lebron :laugh:
the block >
The Lebron lovers are the ones bringing up comparisons in attempts to show that lebrons move wasn't that bad afterall since durant did it .. Speaking of "grasping"